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Good morning.
How's everybody feeling here?
How y'all feeling?
How's it look?
Sweet.
I mean, sweet.
I feel sweet.
What?
What?
It's a good one.
That's a good one.
How could you do that?
You came out the gate with that, huh?
It was a slip, huh?
Yeah, messed up.
Feeling real sweet.
I mean, sweet today.
Yeah, I don't like it.
I'm gonna use that.
Listen.
Use that.
They got it's over.
Because that's the way that it was gonna go.
And you knew that sort of after game three.
All right, we're really gonna drag this on
to the Lakers win game four,
and then we gotta wait another couple of nights
to try and find out what the final score is gonna be.
What everybody knows is gonna be Denver advancing.
The Lakers played valiantly,
but the bottom line is Denver's the best team in the NBA.
The blocked, yeah.
Okay, all right.
The problem was out there giving the guys all.
You know, some of the other guys might have,
if they could help that out a little bit.
Yeah, a little bit.
But man, Denver's fun to watch, man.
They are fantastic.
And the Colea Yokech, absolutely phenomenal.
The entire series, your Western Conference Finals MVP.
And the more I watch them,
the more I'm looking forward,
whoever comes out of the NBA,
whoever comes out of the Eastern Conference and a news flash,
it's not gonna be Boston.
Whoever that is that comes out,
they're gonna have their hands
while having to deal with Yokech and Mike Malone
and that bench and Jalmery
and everything that comes along with the Denver Nuggets.
That's fine, man.
But Miami looks like,
I mean, Bam is establishing himself.
I mean, he's not clearly on the elite level
and the status of the Joker.
But I mean, Bam is really, really emerged
as a real go-to guy
that is almost like becoming a household name
based off of the way that he's playing.
So, and you know, obviously what you get with Jimmy Butler,
but I mean, the way Miami has been playing,
I think Miami's gonna end up,
they might do the same exact thing that Denver did.
And we'll get this thing going pretty quickly.
I mean, I wanna say,
cause I was like, I've watched the Heat play this year.
And I just don't recall in my mind like, man, like,
the Heat can do it.
Like they can make it to the final round.
Cincinnati?
Cincinnati?
Like, all right, you know?
The Heat?
It's like the Heat out of the East.
Like, all right, you know?
And they are clearly playing the best basketball
in the East out of the final two teams.
I mean, they basically in essence have made the Celtics quick.
They quit.
So it'd be interesting to see how that plays out.
But it's looking like it's gonna be Miami
and Denver that plays in the finals.
It's not the ideal final in terms of markets
and what people want from it.
But what I appreciate about this,
what's taking place right now is Jimmy Butler's
getting his flowers for how he's playing.
You have an emerging star in and Bam,
I don't know about you, Bayo.
You got to merge a star in that.
And the world is getting to see why there's such a fuss
about Jokech.
You know, does that say right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jokech.
Jokech.
Jokech.
All right.
I think now everybody's joined into the conversation comfortably.
Like, dude should have got MVP for a third time.
Like, he's the best player in NBA.
And be careful, you'll start some controversy.
Whoa, you know, LaVar.
I'm not sure if you know this, but yeah,
a lot of people, they're not a fan of him
winning in a third time in a row.
Raiders.
Some people think it's because he's white.
I'm just saying.
I get it.
Never mind the fact that he's European.
That doesn't count.
You know, it's just.
By the way, I love how like everyone brings up that point,
but no one has an issue with the fact that what is it?
Three of our last, the last five MVPs
have gone all gone to European players.
Yeah.
Yeah, I sounded a kimpo.
Yes.
Nicola Yokech and Jelen B now.
But it's like that none of them are from the US,
but like no one cares about that.
But it's all about five more.
It's the color.
It's not about where the color comes from.
It's just the color.
Everybody focus on that.
But let's not talk about the fact that like maybe,
maybe there's young men being developed better overseas right
now in professional basketball than they are in the United
States.
Oh, should that be something we talk about?
No, no, no, no, no.
Let's not talk about that.
Let's talk about something else.
Raiders.
Oh, two in depth.
You got to go.
Yeah, service level.
Perto is on it.
It's just so manufactured, man.
Like it's just so like it can't find anything better.
So that's the angle we go with.
Can it can?
Yeah, that's true.
Can I be real though?
When I was watching the first half,
I felt like the Lakers were getting a bunch of calls
and I'm going, all right, this is this is like typical NBA.
That's when my conspiracy theory of mine started to go.
I'm like, it's just it feels like it's going to be one
of those lopsided like Lakers get one so they don't get swept
because we all know what the narrative is right now.
Like we're right now talking about, you know, Denver and all that,
but the narrative is not Denver.
The narrative is the Lakers.
It's LeBron.
It's how much more is he going to play?
He hit it out retirement.
He gets swept.
What does that mean for his legacy?
Like all these things that are going to be talked about.
I personally feel like it's really it's really dumb to focus
on that or like when that argument, you know,
happens because he was phenomenal last night.
At his age, what he did, he carried the team basically wired a wire
and even gave the Lakers a shot.
Now, I know that wasn't how he performed the entire series,
but when they needed him to the most in that game,
he was everything he needed to be played every minute,
but he just, you know, in the end, like they needed more like that.
The Nuggets teams could man like they are a good team.
As much as it's about Yo-Kitch, it's all the pieces involved too.
That's why I'm actually excited to see Denver take on Miami.
Because I think Miami is very similar to in that respect.
I mean, LeVar just touched on it.
You got Jimmy Butler.
That's great.
You got Nicole Yo-Kitch.
That's great.
And you've got these really good complimentary pieces
where other guys step up and can have some performances,
whether it's at a bio or you go and look at...
Michael Porter Jr. is balling.
Michael Porter Jr. is a ball of Murray.
It's probably the next guy that comes to mind, no burto.
Not sure if you watched in this series, but...
I mean, there's so many compliments on each.
I mean, who saw Gabe Vincent shooting the way he did?
You're right.
In the last game, like there were lights out.
Yeah, I also like the fact that Denver...
Did you hear Roberto's it?
Did you hear him in your air queue?
Definitely.
All I heard was Michael Porter Jr.
All right, tell me what you just said, burto.
Yeah, that's a ball Murray.
Yeah.
That's a fun content behind the scenes here.
Oh boy.
On a Tuesday.
That's...
Can you hit the button on your zone, please?
Prove.
How did you...
Please...
Please...
That's...
That is fun.
No, you don't want to hit it.
No, you don't want to...
That's beyond the button.
It's like...
Hey, bro, you can take time.
Hey, where are the white women at?
Oh no.
Yeah, that's...
Burro, you need to take a time out.
You can't...
You can't...
Don't forget to think up for like 10 seconds.
It was funny, though.
I liked how Denver's approach last night was.
All right.
We've got them down three nothing.
We could easily sort of cruise, get this back to Denver, and try and close mountain
five and they said, now we're going to play seven guys and we're going for it.
And, you know, Lebron, we mentioned, played every single minute of that game.
Yokech only missed three minutes of that game.
They clearly identified, let's wrap this up, let's get this over with.
And Brady and I were talking yesterday, Levar, about the fact that the NBA's already said,
no matter what, the finals are starting on June 1st.
Sweet.
Cool.
So, if Miami, you know, closes the coffin on the Boston Celtics tonight, then we got to
wait around eight days for the NBA finals to get here.
Come on, it's a bit much.
Speed this thing up and let's get it over with.
That's a lot.
Then you would like for them to keep...
I would like for them to keep the rhythm and the momentum of the schedule.
I mean, right now, I like how it's been flowing, right?
Like every day, there's another game.
With sports.
Right?
Sports.
Yeah, I like it.
I know your kits are doing all your things.
They're doing their things.
Yeah.
You know, I like the flow of it.
I think when you get that break in time, it kind of lets the momentum die down.
It's like that second week between Super Bowl.
Yeah.
We were there.
We were hoping somebody got busted for like anything.
No.
And then it turned out that it was Michael Irvin and we still don't have any clarity.
I want to know.
Yeah, about to say, what happened with Michael Irvin?
I have no idea.
Huh.
No idea what happened.
Hey, by the way, I was with Don Martin yesterday.
Shouts out to our guy Don Martin.
What was it, Don?
And I just got to make sure I put this out there before we go any further in the show
while it's on top of my mind.
Thank you guys out there who listened to us and support our show.
We were talking yesterday and the success of our show, the growth of our show has been
phenomenal and tremendous.
And I know I'm probably speaking for both of us and all three of us when I say this.
But I mean, it is so cool to have a visual measurement of how much work you put in and
what you want to put out there as a product to the people that are listening to us.
So before I go any further, I just wanted to make sure I let you guys know why it's like
top of mind.
It's super cool that you guys support our show, support us the way that you do.
Pretty cool, man.
Yeah.
Appreciate it.
Well, we're sitting here talking about speeches and stuff in terms of winning and being in
sports and all that stuff.
I think that's pretty cool.
Like we're at...
Because people don't know, Lavar is a cuddler.
He really is.
No, I'm a spooner.
But I bet you're a big spoon and you could be a little spoon.
I can.
Because the big guy needs to be spooned too.
That's very true.
Yeah.
No, that's very true.
In fact, you guys should have saw the way I slept last night.
It's one of the coolest ways of going to sleep ever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And didn't even know that I fell asleep that way, but I woke up.
And the cool thing about waking up so early for your show is that when you wake up and
your arm is dead for about five, six, seven minutes.
Oh, that's great.
You know?
It's like, you know, but you wake up and it was like, wow, what an amazing position to
fall asleep in.
And you know what?
Like, my arm is dead forever, but it'll come back hopefully one day and it was worth it.
What was the position like?
It's kind of, it's like almost like I can't say it on air, but.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, because it could go wrong the way if I try to explain it, it could go wrong.
Especially with birds out probably.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, but welcome to the show.
Yeah.
Because I would have to give details for it to make sense.
And then if I gave the details, then, you know, let's start this way.
Okay.
Were you on your stomach?
Your back or your side?
I was kind of, I was on my right arm.
So put it to you like this.
I like, I, I cuddled her leg.
I cuddled her leg.
Like I went to sleep like literally like, you know how you have like the body pillows?
Yeah.
Well, that was her leg.
And so was she on your arm or were you on your arm?
She was on my arm because I was holding her leg like a pillow.
Yeah.
You're going to lose an arm.
That's a hell of a way to go.
It was out of it.
It is.
Yeah.
It's coming back now.
The feeling is coming back, but it was short enough.
It was definitely worth it.
I enjoyed it.
You can only imagine where I was laying.
Oh, I have.
Yeah.
Where my head was.
All right.
Okay.
That's and that's where the story could have got bad going with the details of it.
I mean, arch.
Oh, all right.
But no, no, no, or not too tall for that.
No, no, no, no, no.
I was just thinking about it.
She's long, my guy.
Yeah.
I'll sleep by any repercussions.
Like, you know, yeah, yeah, but you know what?
I, you know, if it happened, I was so dead to the world and sleep.
I didn't even realize I fell asleep and like in that space like we were watching forensic
files.
I mean, you do do a show from six to nine Eastern time.
Yeah.
And I, well, I had just traveled back to, you know, you're so funny.
You're so funny, Doc.
What you made it.
It's three.
I am here though.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
But it's six to nine East Coast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Monday through Friday.
You do that show.
Yeah.
That is true.
Anyway, yeah.
Yeah.
I enjoyed that.
That's good.
Yeah.
Five days.
Five days.
Yeah.
That's right.
Yeah.
Are funny as eff man.
You know what?
I mean, I always knew you were never afraid to get down and dirty.
I'm just, I'm just letting you know.
That's that that was my spoon position last night.
You caught up in the mix of it.
Yeah.
Spoon city is a place.
Spoon city is a place.
You know, check the oil.
Yeah.
Oh no.
Oh no.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
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Absolutely.
Yeah.
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The NFL did it.
They did it.
The Thursday night football flexing.
Yeah, that's happening.
Now, there's been some revisions to it to what the original plan was for the Thursday night
football flexing, but this is how it goes.
It passed with a 24 to 8 vote.
Now, they needed 24 votes to get it done and they got it done.
There was two that were withstanding.
The last time this was discussed back in March, but Amazon Prime is going to get two flexes.
This upcoming season between weeks 13 and 17, there must be 28 days notice and no team can
play two Thursday night football road games in a season.
And it was voted in as kind of a trial run.
They're calling it quote unquote.
So if it's not utilized this upcoming season, it would remain in effect for the 20 24 season.
And so of course, you know, some people aren't all that thrilled about it.
Say that again.
If it's not utilized, it will remain in effect.
So if they don't use their ability to use it this upcoming year, they can just roll it
over to next year.
So if they don't use it, they don't lose it.
No.
Because usually that's not the case really in a sort of rules or in life.
It's usually the case and everything.
Yeah, right.
If you lose it.
You don't want to say about cheer.
You ain't getting it back.
Now, the quote of all quotes.
You know, the, the, the giants owner, John Mera.
There you go.
Yeah.
Man, you crushed it.
How about that?
Oh, my God.
I did it.
There you go.
He said definitely not surprise disappointed, but not surprise.
But the money quote goes to Mark Davis who spoke with USA today and the Raiders owner said,
quote, if you have a Raiders charger game in Las Vegas schedule for a Thursday and all
three fans driving from Los Angeles, the Raider fans and all three chargers fans by
their tickets and book their hotels.
How in the hell do you schedule it now?
Say, sorry, it's now on Sunday.
How the hell do you do that?
End quote fair point all the way around from, yeah, especially on the three charger fans.
I thought I brought that up.
So.
So I got the Bucky, a Bucky Davis.
Isn't this just a, is this just a clear indication that the NFL cares about the TV.
They really care about the in house product as far as going to games.
They don't care.
They don't really worry about the fans.
They worry about the fans at home because those are the ones that are bringing in all
the money.
Hey, that's what it feels like.
Dang.
Otherwise, how does this make sense for anybody involved that you're just going to go ahead
in the middle of a week just to decide what this game's going to change.
It really should be taken into consideration what Mark Davis said.
I mean, I don't know how you could do that to the fans.
Like, because for what it's worth, that's a more loyal situation than the TV person.
You know, like the people who are willing to get up and go through the whole process of
following their team and attending the games in the stadiums.
Like, I mean, they're the ones that should be rewarded.
You know, if anything, they should be the ones that are taken under, you know, consideration.
Because they're the active participants.
So for them to be put in a situation like that, it's not very many times.
I mean, it could happen what like to one fan base, what one or two times maybe.
I mean, which is still a lot, but you know, I wouldn't get too carried away on that point,
but it is certainly a relevant point to be made there.
I mean, the NFL is saying, well, we're just doing it for a couple of games in between this window,
but isn't that the start?
Isn't this sort of the bridge to get to them wanting the ability to do this more often?
You got to see if it works.
I think that that's why it's a start.
Like for the very conversation that we're having right now, how will the fans react to it?
Will there be enough backlash or enough, you know, of a response that is negative towards doing it
where you're not able to just make that the norm?
I would assume you don't want to disrupt what you already have going on.
I'm sure that's going to make a lot of people upset or you're going to see, you're going to see
a lack of commitment to ticket sales and different things.
You might see a drop off on that participation on that day just based off of not knowing.
I mean, what's possible?
Why don't we do this?
It's for what?
Weeks 13 through 17, right?
Why don't we look up what games those are and the likelihood that they can be flexed?
They started just playing them because that's what this is.
This is really all about Al Michaels wanting to eat his steak at halftime.
You'll satisfy with where the second half of the game is going.
It's going to be competitive.
So Lee, if you would, please let us know what the weeks 13 through 17 games are of Thursday night football.
And we can go around the horn and we can say, hey, we think this game is going to get flexed or it's not,
but what do they need to have?
28 days notice.
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's taking into account the fact that those games, all right, so really you got to make a decision by, you know,
week nine.
Okay.
That you're going to be flexing that game.
So we're going to look at those teams, week 13 through 17.
We basically have to pick which teams sees it is almost going to be over between weeks nine, 10, 11 and 12.
Yeah.
That are scheduled to play on thres at a football.
Does that make sense?
Is that too complicated?
No, that makes sense.
I've already identified one game that for sure will be flexed.
Let's go.
Right.
Go.
Leak.
Can we put some some music to it?
Let's go ahead.
Yeah.
Do we have any game show music?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, no.
What's going on?
What's going on Amazon?
But do they have music?
Dad, who cares?
What was that?
I mean, by my Kawhi Leonard.
It was like, Sittister, I can hear the feeling of my laugh.
I don't even know where you are.
Upon hearing that laugh, the Clippers should have released him immediately.
He got you.
All right.
That's a lead.
Lee, get us started.
That's a no.
He got it.
Lee, week 13.
What do we got?
Week 13 starts it with Seahawks at Cowboys.
That's a good one.
That's not getting flexed.
That one will be good.
Get your tickets.
You saw it.
The 14 Patriots at Steelers.
That's solid.
That's not getting flexed.
Yeah, that's solid.
Brady, do you think any of those get flexed?
No, because I think both Pittsburgh and New England will be right there in the mix.
The first one, Seattle Dallas.
Just because it's Dallas, I don't think they're going to flex them out of that window.
They're too big of a brand, even if Seattle can't replicate what they did last year, which
they should be good.
So, yeah, I think we're good so far.
Yeah.
Week 15, Chargers at Raiders.
Get the hell out of there.
That's what we started the segment with.
I don't know.
Don't forget.
Divisional match.
I don't know.
Don't, boys.
Chargers could be in the mix.
Birdos, Raiders.
Chargers definitely should be in the mix.
They should.
They better be in the mix.
I mean, now, how do they determine which games can any game be flexed from that week into
that spot?
Because if that's the case.
Then now we need to know who else is matched up during that week.
Cowboys at Bills.
We got Jets at Dolphins.
Ooh.
Yeah, but that's going to be the Black Friday game.
Whoa.
That's true.
That's true.
I can't imagine they would run that down.
Why was it ever changed?
The Black Friday.
Okay.
What's wrong with Black Friday?
Not the Black Friday.
What a Black Friday.
What a Black Friday.
Oh, geez.
Wow.
Unbelievable.
Racist.
Unbelievable.
That's just ridiculous.
Yes, it is.
Problem.
Okay.
I do believe that that's one that I would have tremendous confidence in purchasing a ticket,
a plane ticket, a hotel room, and the game ticket.
I just would not be confident in that.
I mean, Vegas at nighttime, the way it's presented, is pretty phenomenal.
I just don't think that they're going to want to flex out of that one.
That doesn't feel like one that would happen.
I don't know.
I'll be going to join us for this one as well.
We should do an over-under on this one.
We really should.
Not an over-under, but like, uh...
Because you went all the time, I guess.
What's a call, like, either or or something like that?
Anyways, don't happen.
Because I would love for a would you...
Yeah.
Not a boy.
Anyway, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Guys, week 16 is Saints at Rams.
Yeah, I don't get flexed.
I don't do it.
Fatted here.
Fatted here.
Do not get a plane ticket.
Yeah.
Do not get a game ticket.
Don't get a hotel room.
Nobody's interested in Derek Carr and John Wofford for week 16 or whatever this is on Thursday.
Why don't they just flex it now?
Yeah.
Well, we've scheduled the game for the years to change.
We're going to flex out of it today.
Now, that is the holiday week.
So do you think that when we get less likely to want to flex out of it?
Because, like, man, people are making Christmas travel plans.
But again, you're going to have 28 days notice.
So, yeah, what would be a prime game to be moved into that spot?
I mean, Detroit, Minnesota could be good.
New England Denver is supposed to be the night game on Christmas Eve.
Yeah, that's going to get flexed.
That's not that.
That game's not going to stay there long.
All right.
What's week 17 lead the final one?
Last one.
Jets at Browns.
Yeah, no chance.
It's flexed, right?
No, that gets flexed.
You think so?
Really?
Aaron Rodgers.
Possible.
Aaron Rodgers?
Aaron Rodgers at Massage Watson.
Massage Watson.
Wow.
That's a shirt.
Wow.
That's a shirt.
When we get in trouble, we made a massage Watson shirt.
No.
You don't think that already exists?
There's got to be one out there.
I don't know.
That's the first I've ever heard that.
There's at least a towel line.
That is freaking phenomenal.
A towel liner.
There should be a towel line.
There's a towel line that they mood light is surfboard.
You guys haven't seen them out on the Hermosa Pier?
Oh, wow.
That is amazing.
That is amazing.
That is absolutely shredding with the shopbox.
That is surfboard towels.
I heard they use them as jet skis too.
Yeah.
A pizza peel.
Ah!
So basically what we're saying is that they're probably going to have to move the flexing for
Thursday night into next year.
So they're going to keep this around for a while.
The term flexing for the Sean Watson game.
No.
Maybe they can't flex it because they can't use the word.
We can have flex Cleveland out of the game.
We can't use what?
There's no way we just thought of that.
That has to be around.
That is not around.
I've never heard that.
There's no way.
It can totally caught me.
It was phenomenal.
That was the best pool of the show.
That might be the best pool of the week.
There's no way.
Literally.
There's no way.
There's no way.
Can you just Google search that to see what comes to mind.
I've been looking.
I can't find anything.
That's a first.
That is an exclusive here.
Massage Watson.
That is phenomenal.
That's what he said.
That's a t-shirt.
I'm not going to touch that.
I've just said.
I will wear that shirt though.
Oh man.
So there it is.
That is your honor.
We're not sure.
That's the best
of a potential flex situation in the NFL this upcoming season.
That's what I'm watching.
On the advice of my lawyer, I assert my rights under the fifth amendment.
Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
All right.
It is.
A whole lot of things now.
Like surfboards is Brady pointed out.
That's so good.
Pizza peels.
Boogie board.
Hang 10.
I'm gnarly.
Shredding, bro.
By the way, wipe out.
Did I tell you that guy that called in to a show that I was working on one time?
This is probably like 2014, 2015.
This guy calls in to a show and totally got me on the air.
I didn't realize what he said until after he'd hung up.
He said, yeah, I heard you guys are based out of California.
I was like, yeah, he goes, yeah.
I heard you guys hang 10.
I'm from the Midwest.
We hang 11.
I said, and I didn't get it until he hung up the phone.
When you bring up Cowabung, I just think about how they feel about us out here on the West Coast
and the Midwest.
I mean, what does that mean?
Yeah, I don't know.
Think about it.
I'm going to love it.
I'm going to have a fair point though.
It is two pros.
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Oh, yeah.
That.
Okay.
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So we started off the show talking about the first ever appearance in the NBA finals
for the Denver Nuggets.
They're on their way to the finals after a sweep of Los Angeles Lakers, Nicole Yokich,
the talk of the town.
He won Western Conference Finals MVP was fantastic and nether triple double.
All of that fun stuff and his Brady Quinn alluded to earlier in the show.
You know part of the conversation, if not majority, the conversation is going to be about the
Los Angeles Lakers right or wrong and the person leading the charge in the conversation
about the Lakers is one LeBron James because afterwards he spoke with the media just about
his immediate future when it comes to LA.
Take a listen.
What's the happens going forward?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I got a lot to think about to be honest.
And just for me personally going forward with the game of basketball, got a lot to think
about.
Now afterwards he was approached by ESPN who walked up to him and said, when you say you've
got to think about stuff, what thread should we be pulling on that?
And he said, quote, if I want to continue to play, they said, as in next year, he said,
yeah.
And when asked, would you walk away?
LeBron James again said, quote, I got a lot to think about.
So mainly a sudden, yeah.
How much longer can he hold on for that?
Because I really think he wants to do that.
Yes.
Can I throw out a theory to you?
Yeah.
What would stop him from retiring, taking a year off and then getting himself ran back
up for when Bronnie comes back.
And this accomplishes two things.
The first being that he gives his body some well-needed rest, right?
I mean, he's played for a long time.
I don't know that we've seen someone play as often in the postseason as we've seen LeBron
James at this point in time in his career.
And so it gives him the needed rest where maybe a year older, he's a year older, but
he's going to keep himself in impeccable shape.
He is one of the most rare athletes or humans have ever seen.
So it could do him well maybe at this point.
And then the other thing is it obviously times up well with little Bronnie, but it also gives
him the flexibility where even though I believe he's still in her contract with the Lakers,
at that point, a year removed, maybe the Lakers got a sense that he wants to move on
anyway.
They can look at trying to replace and rebuild in that void and then he can go to a team
where Bronnie's at so they can play on the same team.
And he doesn't have to try to facilitate necessarily a trade or if he does.
It's a little easier to do that if he's been out of sight out of mind for a year.
So I'm not saying this is by any means what he's going to do, but it's a path that he
could take if indeed that is his goal of playing with Bronnie.
I mean, that's a new layer to load management.
That is a different layer.
You know, take a whole season off.
Do you think because it does make some sense from a timeline standpoint, but do you think
that LeBron would ultimately not want to take that approach just because that would be one
of the clear differences between him and Jordan?
Jordan took time off and came back.
If LeBron could say, well, I never walked away.
I played consistently at a high level for X amount of years.
Like I wonder if I wonder if part of his thinking is how.
What does that matter now though, but Jordan took time off like what years ago into his
career where LeBron would have been?
I just think LeBron's looking for a way to differentiate himself from Jordan.
He can't catch him on titles.
And this is a way that he can differentiate himself from him.
I mean, I think his scoring title scoring, scoring record is what and there's other
stat lines that could be used to make, make an argument for LeBron James.
I think at this point now, he's definitely, if you were to ask him what he's playing
for, it's definitely to try to outdo Michael Jordan's titles.
It's got to be, right?
It's got to be.
I think we talked about this yesterday.
All right.
Let that go when he left Miami.
Yeah, there's no chance.
Yeah, he left Miami.
He let that goal go.
You're saying he consciously knew once he left Miami, he was not going to get.
I mean, he did get another title.
No, he got two more if you count the bubble one, but you have to understand the point.
Miami as an organization has continually been successful since he left.
True.
They never stepped off the gas.
The East has been an easier path than the West.
And when he decided to leave Miami and what he had where he went to what?
Four straight NBA finals winning two of those four.
He left the opportunity to have them be able to continue to build out around them, much
like Rob Palenka did this year with the Lakers.
But he left that opportunity to allow Pat rather to do it because he wanted to have
control.
He wanted to do what he wanted to do in Cleveland and then LA and they really take a different
approach.
I just think the priority had changed as soon as they weren't able to just win a bunch
right in a row, but he was able to win a couple.
He then saw the path.
He saw how things worked.
He took it back to Cleveland was able to win one there.
He goes to LA, which I think that had family implications, post career implications, a
lot more to it than just playing for the Lakers.
And now it's about his son.
And so if that's the case, I don't think it's ring chasing at this point.
I think he just wants to be where his son's at and help his son segue into being a professional
basketball player.
And you guys don't think he can do that from being retired?
He could, but I think he wants to play with them.
I mean, that was what you just said, right?
Yeah.
I mean, that's what everybody has said that he wants to play with his kid.
I mean, so I just for me, if I'm not playing to try to win it, I don't know why I'm doing
it.
Like even if it's my kid, like he's, he's in the pipeline for me to be able to play with
him.
I still, so like if I'm not, if my mind isn't geared towards trying to win a championship,
I just don't know what's my motivation to work out and keep myself healthy.
Can I tell you what what motivation is to play next year?
You get a 47 million to play next year.
The Bron is yes.
Drop in the bucket.
I mean, at this point, my at this point, I mean, you can never.
47 million is 47 million.
What are we talking about here?
47 is 47.
You ain't lying.
You ain't lying.
I mean, I'm gonna take, I'm gonna take that D on Sanders foot out there for 47.
Oh, geez.
I'm gonna tell you what I'm talking about.
What do you mean by that D on Sanders?
I'm gonna take that out there and go ahead and ball.
You know what I'm talking about.
47 million.
What I'm talking about.
Go ahead and mercy.
I don't know if that much for you.
So LeBron did say this during the war series.
Early on in the warrior series, he was asked about, because this coincided with Bronnie
James announcing his decision to go to USC.
And LeBron said, you know, I've done what I've done and I had to do in this league and
my son is going to take his journey, whatever his journey, however, his journey lays out.
He's going to do what's best for him and as his dad and his mom Savannah and his brother
and sister, we're going to support him, whatever he decides to do.
So just because that's my aspiration or goal to want to play with him doesn't mean it's
his.
And I'm absolutely okay with that.
I was going to say too, isn't there a thought and you know, Lavar, your kids are older.
So this is, you know, probably more in your mind, but don't you kind of want your kids
to create their own path to?
I mean, as much as it would be cool to see them live in your shadow or your legacy, there's
also an element of like, I want them to build their own.
Absolutely.
Yeah, not even close.
Maybe that's what he's weighing.
You know, there's there's part of that too where, you know, I mean, look, it makes a lot
easier on family travel if you're playing the same team.
I mean, yeah, I mean, LeBron is frugal like that at times.
You will see him talking about being cheap about things.
Maybe he's like wants to play just so he gets on the team charter with Bronnie doesn't
have to worry about, you know, charting his own flights.
I don't know.
I'll just say this, whatever is reason for coming back.
I'm sure it's legit.
I will say that no, you know, no hate from me on LeBron.
I think he has clearly established what he represents to the game and to sports in general.
Um, if it's, if it's for Bronnie, you know, great.
I don't, you know, can I ask you guys this?
Sure.
Like at this point, is there anything he can do to change the perception of how people
view him versus Michael?
No, like, like I grew up in an era where I've been able to see both, right?
I mean, LeBron and I are high school classmates same, same year.
And I look at them both.
One, they're different players.
I personally hate the conversation about, let's compare this guy from 20 years ago versus
this guy and their prime.
It's like the league's different, the game's different, all that.
And then they're just the very different players.
I think the one thing that like I would hold against LeBron, because I do think he is the
best ever next to Michael, the only difference is the manner in which, you know, Michael
would go about those end of game scenarios.
It didn't matter if it was the best basketball IQ play.
He was shooting the shot.
He won the ball.
Kobe had that too in him.
No, that's not too.
Kobe's my two.
But I think the point is like the people who think Michael Jordan's the greatest ever are
probably the same people are always going to think Michael Jordan's.
You can't do anything to convince them.
The people who think LeBron is the best ever, they're probably the same boat.
Like you're not going to show him some old footage and highlights and clips and games
of Michael and convince them otherwise.
Like I don't know that there's anything he can prove at this point that he hasn't already
proven.
Yeah, I agree.
I mean, let's use one in championships.
But even then like, okay, let's say he gets past six people are going to say, well, Jordan
wins it wins six.
No, Jordan never lost in the final.
Yeah.
Like there's always going to be like those side-astering arguments.
Yeah, you're right.
People are have held onto their opinions and because there's been such a divide that it's
just made people dig in even more on whatever their opinion is.
So and their justification for it and they'll do the math and say, well, Jordan to Brady's
point was undefeated in the finals and people say, yeah, but it's more impressive that LeBron
took multiple teams to the finals and won multiple championships.
And then they'll discredit the bubble and they'll say, yeah, but it's, you know, LeBron
did it when everybody else was trying to do it in the bubble amongst difficult circumstances.
It just, I think everybody's dead set on whatever their opinion is on who the greatest
of all time is LeBron.
And look also, this is the first time and he's talked about potentially needing surgery
in the off season.
You're starting to see his body breakdown.
Like that's the other part of this.
And that's the one thing that is unarguable amongst everything between Jordan and LeBron.
Like don't nobody even try and say, well, Michael Jordan's durability and compared to
LeBron James, the number of years.
I mean, Jordan missed almost all of a season early in his career.
And you can say, well, load management this man load, load management, all you want.
LeBron James has played for however long he has at a high level and his body has not
really broken down until recently.
And maybe that's part of him.
Just sort of understanding.
I can't do it like I used to.
Right.
Even if I want to, but the other thing that like in regards to the argument for LeBron,
you know, the, the was a nine straight, right?
Yeah.
Whatever was, and I look like I look at the Buffalo Bills, that run they had for what
was it?
91 to like 94 when they're the four straight Super Bowls.
That's one of the greatest teams ever in NFL history, but they'll never receive the
credit because they didn't win it.
But yet when you think about into into if that happened today with social media and
everything else, like we tend to annoying teams that going back to back years or we look
at the Kansas City Chiefs and go, well, look at them.
They've won two and they're in the AFC Championship game every year, right?
We've kind of anointed them as the next dynasty.
Like the bills weren't Super Bowls for four.
You could go to college and all you knew during that period of time in college, unless
you did a victory lap, was the Buffalo Bills going to a Super Bowl.
It was, it was absurd.
I mean, it's kind of more ridiculous that they weren't able to win one.
Like you got four shots.
That's like, Hey, let's, let's flip a coin.
Okay.
I'm going to go four straight times.
You're not getting heads, right?
You call, I mean, it's, it's hard to think that at some point you're not going to get
a win out of that.
And I think you can kind of look at that for LeBron and just go, there is sheer, it's
just incredible ability to play it that high of a level for that long and help will your
team to go to that many straight finals.
281 career playoff games.
That's almost three and a half seasons just to playoff basketball.
And in those games, he averaged over 41 minutes a game.
And this is like the Tom Brady Joe Montana argument, right?
Cause when Tom Brady surpassed Joe Montana, you know, Oh, Joe Montana was undefeated.
You know, when he played in Super Bowls, right?
Yeah.
Tom Brady wasn't here, but look how many he went to.
Yeah, that's, you can't even compare to two.
No, that's too many, that's too many Super Bowls.
And that's how I'm sure some people feel about.
One, one, one.
That's, I'm sure some people feel about LeBron.
Yeah.
Like anyone who's, who's played, like, and I feel like this more comes from perspective
of, of, you know, most people who've been in the competition, but it's like just getting
there is hard enough.
And so they understand like how hard it is just to even have a shot, have an opportunity.
And that's, and that's why I think, you know, most players probably, like, yeah, dude,
like for as long as he's played the way he's played, like, I mean, he, he next to Shaq
to me are the two physical, biggest physical phenoms the NBA has ever seen.
Like you just don't see people who are built like that that can last like that that are,
they have the combination of athleticism and everything else to dominate the game.
And plus mission accomplished for a lot of people that have invested interest in all
this because they've got right steals with the NBA.
LeBron retirement speculations going to carry a lot of shows at certain places for a long
time now.
Right.
What, what place would that be?
Yeah, places like ESPN, that would be the where they were on a go.
So they're going to, they're going to hold onto this one and milk this for as long as
they can until LeBron decide, yeah, I'd like to come back.
I feel better now.
I've had a couple of weeks off and I drank some wine.
That's good.
I don't know.
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