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Good morning.
How the hell are we feeling here on a Wednesday?
Hi.
You got one, buddy?
What are you talking about?
Oh, his team got one, LaBarr, you know?
Yeah.
The seas, the golden knights.
The golden seas.
Yeah, the green knights.
You know, the green knights.
Big, Vegas golden knights guy.
I mean, listen, Austin finally,
all it took was Miami to be favored.
Next thing you know, the Celtics came out
and actually didn't fold when they were down a deficit
at some point during that game.
It's kind of odd considering they were such
overwhelming favorites going into the series,
and yet they're just trying to take these moral victories.
Like, well, when they got down nine or 10,
at least they didn't collapse.
Just it's nice to know.
I mean, you were calling for Joe Missoula's head.
I was not calling for his head.
I mean, you brought up getting fired.
That was a real possibility and is still a real possibility,
depending on how this series finishes out.
It's always a possibility.
Yeah.
It's just more of the fact that it wasn't really
a talking point, but you felt like it was a talking point,
I guess.
There's been a lot of speculation that Joe Missoula
has there.
Yes.
And I don't remember any speculation.
I don't refer anybody to lose their job.
I never call for jobs.
It just wouldn't surprise me if they went in that direction.
But again, he was calling for Joe Missoula's job.
It's the same.
Listen, I don't recall it per se, but I will say,
I will say this was a year where you thought that Jaylen
and Tatum would take this team to another level.
You know, could they conquer the 76ers?
Could they win in a division that has the Milwaukee Bucks?
I don't think anybody was really paying attention
all that closely to Miami.
And it's interesting because Miami is one of those teams.
They'll climb up on you and they're grappling type of team.
They're gritty, they're tough.
They do so many different things so well
that you just might not expect.
They hit you in your mouth so quickly.
By the time you figured out you've been punched in your mouth,
they got a lead on you.
Now, can they overcome a three game deficit?
Now they have one.
Can they?
So can they overcome the two games
and get it back to an even series?
I don't know, but I really think that with the type of team
that they have and what the expectation of Boston is,
if they don't do better than what they're doing right now,
I'm not gonna say I don't think that Jonas
has something there.
I think that they may get another coach.
Well, we talked about the fact that first off,
he was not supposed to be that coach
to be a coach.
True, true.
And so it's maybe he gets a little bit of a grand assault
with to go along with that.
You also have to think about the fact
Brad Stevens put him in this position
probably because he still can control
a lot of the things Joe Missoula does.
Give it as an experience and all that.
You go and bring in a Mike Boudenholzer or Monty Williams,
whoever else do you wanna throw in the category,
you might not get that.
This is a guy that you can probably have a little more
involvement in how things are run and what goes on
and help shape him as a coach.
Whereas you bring in a coach who's got success elsewhere
at different experiences,
you're gonna have to deal with some of that
and you might have to compromise.
So I do wonder how Brad Stevens
and the rest of the front office in Boston factors
into the decision to move on when, I mean, look, again,
Boston won last night.
I'm more bringing it up to Joe.
I mean, we don't have to have a serious conversation.
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt.
The point is there are potential candidates out there
they could look at.
I think what's more interesting about it is the fact,
we've never seen a team come back
from a 3-0 deficit in the NBA Finals
and the Boston Celtics, they're channeling the 2004 Boston
Red Sox.
I'm not sure if you saw some of the stuff out there,
but there is the slogan, don't let us win tonight
is what the Celtics were kind of using
as motivation going into last night's game.
Yeah, they run.
I mean, it went last night because they're gonna rip off
for a row to go turn the series.
You got A-Rod in attendance, Derek Jeter was there.
A lot of celebrities in South Florida.
Brooks Kepka looks like he's been on a four-day bender
and just is being wheeled around on a gurney
to whatever sporting events going on in South Florida.
He looks bang up and a half, man.
He's a P, D's the guy that's sort of rough.
He looks wide-eyed.
You guys don't follow golf, but Nick Wilson,
he's now with this podcast.
Yeah, well, I don't know what golf is.
Don't care about golf, golf ain't it?
That's what that podcast is.
From the rough with Lebarr and Jonas.
Yeah, we do.
The thing you guys don't know is there's actually a sponsor
we're talking to right now.
So anyway, oh, I really love golf.
Let me tell you something about it.
I love being on the greens.
I don't think you're going to be doing the live reasons.
Yeah, probably.
So Miggleson came out and made a comment
after Kepka won, obviously, wins a major.
And basically touting that this is why the live tour is what's
best for professional golfers.
Because they can go enjoy their lives
and they can go make a lot of money.
And they can prepare or have more time
to prepare for majors.
And honestly, if Brooks Kepka was on the PGA tour,
he'd be supposed to be in Dallas this week.
They have the Charles Schwab Challenge.
They got the Memorial Tournament the following week.
They've got the Open after that or the US Open after that.
It's like, he's not wrong.
I mean, these guys are allowed to then go around
and kind of parade and have fun because they play less golf.
They play less events.
They're making more money.
I mean, there's a lot of truth to what Miggleson has kind
of said in regards to a live tour and PGA tour.
And hence why Brooks Kepka is going on this victory lap,
if you will, around South Florida.
Well, first, and I would like to defend, again,
I like to defend Lebarna here.
Now I have Lebarna.
I have.
Well, listen, you're going to tie in here.
Don't worry.
No one's bringing you guys in to sell this thing.
Come on, listen.
Why wouldn't they?
Or are you?
Why?
Sometimes I just don't know between the two of you.
Are you joking or are you being serious?
But here's why I wanted to defend on you.
Jonas is trying to be serious because they're
serious just to what I said.
So I have a US Open 2016 hat.
Like one of those like Tom Kite hats from back in the day
he used to wear on the PGA tour.
And it's from Oakmont in Pennsylvania with Lebarna.
You know this.
It's about 20 minutes outside downtown Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
there.
So you know, a little US Open 2016 throwback.
I mean, so I know what I'm talking about here
when it comes to golf.
And bro, there you go, looks banged all the way up.
He need an IV.
Yes.
He wanted to rejuvenating that IV.
That's all.
But celebrate all you want the guy put on.
He's going to be getting an IV court side.
Like the next time we'll be this one.
And I'll be the whole time.
Fine.
I'd probably offer them in Miami though.
Speaking of speaking of getting banged up, Jimmy Butler,
Jimmy Buckets after the game, you know,
you would think they lose that game by 17.
And Boston kind of pulled away late and ran away with it.
And really, the three ball was the story of the game.
And also Boston's defense, which decided to show back up
in game four of the series.
But Jimmy Butler afterwards talked with the media
about what's next for the Miami Heat.
And apparently Brooks Kefka is kind of rubbing off
on some of the members of the Heat there.
Jimmy, it's only one loss, obviously.
But is there any concern on your part
that this could start to build momentum
on the Boston side of things?
No.
If anything, it'll build momentum for us,
knowing that we have to play with a lot more energy.
And, you know, we ought to play like our backs
or against the wall.
But I think all year long, we've been better
and are able to do things the hard way.
After a game like this, how do you personally kind of avoid
from getting too low yourself?
Stay consistent.
Do the same thing that I do that we do after every game.
We're going to list this in music.
You know, we're going to drink some beers back there.
We're going to go have some wine.
I don't think that you could just focus on basketball at the time.
You have to be able to, you know, get away from the game
a little bit.
Think about it.
But at the end of the day, you fall back on, you know,
your habits, how consistent you're going to be in myself
and my teammates.
We're going to do the same thing.
We're going to smile.
We're going to be in this thing together.
Like we always are.
We're going to go get one on the road.
Just confidence, man.
That Miami confidence.
Throw back a couple of throat bombs.
You know, we talk about what happened in game four and then
move on to the rest.
You know?
That's going to be what I'm talking about.
They're like, you know, talking about Jimmy Butler's like
pregame routine to get all fired up.
They're like, yeah, man, sometimes just listen to Miley Cyrus
back there.
Hey, I heard he likes country.
Bieber.
They're like, it's Rick Ross to the next game.
He's like, he's all over the place.
He's like, we want to mess with him because he gets
him fired up no matter what he's listening to.
Very confident though.
I mean, they're going to go get one on the road and then,
you know, we'll see.
Five.
I think he's my favorite house money right now.
I mean, you got one more game.
You got one more game that where you can be entirely positive.
Like this game, this next game, you can be entirely positive
because if they win, they still only have two wins in the series.
Now, while that might be stressful and it might have an
impact and a bearing on how you interview after they won a
two straight games.
The idea of thinking that a team can run off four straight.
I mean, we did just see two sweeps take place, but against
the Miami Heat team, the concept of running four games, now
running three games, I just don't.
That's highly unlikely.
It's highly unlikely.
It's unlikely.
But the one thing Boston has going for themselves is two of the
next three are in Boston.
So, you know, they've really got to just hold home court and
then they've got to steal game six in Miami, which they just
stole one in Miami.
So, I mean, it's definitely doesn't seem like based on how
the first three games went, Boston would have a shot.
But this is Jonas's, you know, childhood team and I'm going
to be a good teammate on our show.
And so I'm going to try to, you know, give some positive vibes
to Jonas to pick them up a little bit.
I've got some positive vibes for one Brayden Quinn and one
Levaro Arrington.
Okay, Levaro.
We've got ourselves in talking about the Boston Celtics.
What would you guys say?
Hearing Jimmy Butler's comments, how positive they are.
They're going to get on the Liverpool post game, listen to
some Whelan Jennings or Conway Twitty or whatever they
listen to in the locker room there.
What do you think? What do you believe the betting line is for
game five of this series back in Boston on Thursday night?
If you had to get Celtics minus four.
All right, Levaro, what's your guess?
Well, my life, I, you have probably say.
I don't know.
I don't give a damn.
Is that your Irish accent?
I please do that again.
This is my Irish accent, Spreedy.
Especially when I've had one or two long ladies.
Oh, it's amazing.
I ain't my lady.
So we're saying it in points.
Yeah, like what do you think the spread is?
Like, like, who do you think is favored and by how much?
I would probably say the Boston Celtics are favored by at least
six.
Six, really?
Brady just said four.
Interesting.
The betting line for game five at TD Bank North Boston Garden or
whatever the hell they're calling it nowadays is the Boston
Celtics minus seven and a half.
Wow.
A few of our friends at DraftKings.
Wow, right there.
I mean, you have to say, first off, Jonas, you like question
that with Levaro.
I said it, but he was almost dead on it.
Well, I was trying to throw him off a little bit trying to get
him to a, you know, why would you do that to your team?
Especially with both of us.
Why you do that, my lady?
It's like, oh, we have to do it.
Just sit down at the bar and have a pop or two.
But yes, so still the Celtics for some inexplicable reason
continue to be pretty heavy favorites, you know, but most
of these games in the playoffs.
Speaking of, or can we go to Ireland for the Notre Dame game?
I know it's, you know, it's outside your realm there, Levar,
but that is not outside of my realm.
Did you see there's, there's going to be, it's going to be
the largest group coming from the United States to an
international event ever.
I want to go.
I told you guys, I want to go.
I want to go.
A thousand people going to Dublin, Ireland, over 39,000.
I get to do that with Q.
Like, come on, I'm there.
I said, I'll go.
So that's, you guys got to talk to Scott and Don, man.
We're trying to make it happen.
Scott and Don.
What else would be in the convention for?
We're going for going to Ireland.
Like, so the London games in the NFL don't try anywhere close
to that as far as fans going over.
I mean, I would think like maybe an Olympic event, you know,
especially if it was, you know, talking about Paris or something
or like that, you get a big intention from the United
States or a World Cup.
39,000.
Over 39,000.
That's a lot of it.
I mean, their economy is going to get a nice little kick,
a little boost.
Yeah, it is.
I saw that.
I like kept looking at like, is that?
I was like, wow.
And then I was thinking to myself, well, if we don't have things
booked by now, it's going to be tough to find a place to stay
when we get there.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, it's not like Ireland is that heavily populated.
For those who visited there, you know, Dublin obviously is a big
city, but then you really got to go across the country to places
like Galway or some of the other spots before you get more
densely populated areas.
It's a lot of open space.
I mean, we, at this point, we can be staying out on a farm with,
like, I don't know, literally like in a barn with some goats at
that work.
That's all I need.
What they have a barn called orchids of Asia and one of those
places, I don't think that's when they're broke of the cows.
I don't think that's what they're meeting or the
who's next step right up to the stable.
Oh, good.
Just go over there to that barn right there, Laddie.
It's cold orchids of Asia.
Oh, man.
It is.
Yeah, I mean, like if we were to pull that off a little, a little
game.
Go ahead.
Oh, definitely go.
By the way, I know LaVara is in because I feel like he likes
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Jonas, I so suspect.
So suspect on that.
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You guys ready for the NFL to go ahead and start making some major changes?
Sure, right.
Alright.
So, the...
So, the...
Who lost my hubcap?
So, NFL owners approved the new fair catch rule in the NFL,
in which basically, if you decide to fair catch it in between anywhere
before the 24.9 yard line,
you're just going to go ahead and get the ball at the 25 yard line.
So, they already do this in college football,
but the idea, and this was talked about yesterday,
is again, they want to improve player safety,
and they feel like this move, which they're calling a, quote unquote,
trial run, only for one year,
this move they feel like is going to reduce the number of concussions
by 15 percent, because it's going to entice players
to maybe not bring the ball out if it's kicked short,
just take it on the 25, and then move on with your lives.
And it just feels like this is another step in the direction
of the walls closing in,
and them trying to get rid of one of the most exciting plays
in football, that we've seen a lot of exciting players be a part of,
and have major impacts on games and their careers,
whether it be Devin Hester or Brian Mitchell, you name it,
and here we are, the NFL is trying to eliminate it all for the sake of player safety.
Do we know the percentage on amounts of,
like in terms of, you said the percentage going down by 15 percent?
That's what they say.
People would be curious as to how many,
how many concussions, because you know,
my major concussions, when I got them, were on special teams.
I wonder what the percentage of special teams concussions are
to the entire whole, it's probably been receiving,
receivers getting hit, defenseless,
or considered to be ticked, defenseless, or targeting, or whatever it may be.
And then it would have to be special teams,
which I actually think is, kick off is number one, I believe,
it's the most dangerous play, which is one of the reasons why they're trying to make this change,
even though it's, to the, the slacking of most special teams coaches that are in the NFL.
One of the reasons is, the way they go about kicking the mortar kicks,
so they'll kick it basically with a bunch of air,
because a lot of these kickers are strong enough to go to kick it out of the end zone,
but now they'll kick it with enough air to try to get that ball caught somewhere between, you know,
the goal line and the five, and then they can cover down enough,
so now they're not getting the ball, you know, out at the 25, they're getting at the 15 and 20, something like that.
You know, that's kind of become more of the style that you've seen attempted in college
and then probably a little better executed at times, even in the NFL.
And that's the thing is you're probably going to get more of that,
because in, in L'Vara, you know this, like an extra 10, 5 yards,
it may not seem like a lot to the people on the outside,
but that's the difference between you have to stop an additional first down.
Like that's the difference between a team potentially going forward on fourth down
and a defense having to face, you know, four-down territory, verse three down,
and being able to get off the field.
And, and those numbers add up obviously over the course of a game and over the course of a season,
and that's why I think there's some people who are like, this is, you know, taking it a step maybe a little bit too far,
even though it's in the best interest of player safety.
So, look, they're not going to get rid of the kickoff, because otherwise like what the hell are you going to call the game
or the start of the game? It's kind of been the most like ceremonial thing ever that just, it just,
it's too, it's too much part of the game, right?
How would you start it if you didn't have the kickoff?
So, what I'm saying is like, I don't know, like I can't picture in my mind what it would look like,
because you have this big like, you know, the crowd getting intense, getting excited,
the guy swaying, the kicker puts his hand up, he gets ready to go and it's just, oh, there's this whole like moment of time
where you're like, that's the beginning of it.
It's part of the vernacular, hey, what time's kickoff? Now we're just going to get rid of all that.
But it's more about even just being there in the feeling of it. Like it's almost like literally the shotgun started at a track race.
Like that's the start, like you know that's the moment when you hear that ball literally being kicked
and the entire crowd's like, oh, it's just, it's just a feel to it.
If you took that away, I think it killed a live game experience, it'd be the most awkward thing ever.
Yeah, I mean, it would probably feel like a scrimmage for some reason. I mean, would people adapt and adjust if they did adjust it out of the game?
I'm certain that the fan base would adapt and adjust. But to a purist, I do think that that would be a difficult,
it would be difficult adjusting and adapting to not having a kickoff.
But I don't know, man, it just seems like that is, it definitely is a dangerous part of the sport.
It's definitely a part of the sport that you could say if you found ways to minimize it or even not do it,
you're basically preserving the health of a lot of guys.
You know, I don't know, it's just, it's, the guys are moving so fast and they're hitting so hard.
I don't know. I'll tell you why it's not already out of the game.
Because how many starters do you actually have on special teams? Not many.
Usually your core special teams guys are the ones that are set up in your L4, L5, R4, R5.
Those are the guys that are set up to make the tackle, make the play.
And it's those core special teams guys that are backups on defense and offense are the ones that are typically
the ones that are out there playing special teams and getting hurt.
You know, if you had, like, again, we see all sorts of rule changes to protect quarterbacks because people tend to think,
well, hey, these are the face of the franchise, face of the league, how we want to do it.
So, you know, they've, you know, callous times.
I mean, changed rules to help protect the quarterback.
This isn't as much of a sense of urgency because it's not that important of a position in the minds of the rules makers.
I mean, at what point do you just accept the fact that it's a violent game and, like, there's going to be stuff that you,
there's nothing you can do about it?
And today's society, that's not, that's not that simple.
Can we make football like, like, kind of separate from today's society?
What would you want to say?
Well, no, I mean, it's a good point.
Because why do we view, like, mixed martial arts, so we're not putting in safeguards necessarily for that?
Yeah, we do for football.
You know what I'm saying?
So you should then begin to take martial arts classes then because then, you know, you would know martial arts better.
Great point.
That's true.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
I just, I don't know, I look at it and to Brady's point, like, that's the signal of the start of a game.
Like, the site, the excitement, everything that comes along with it, the buzz, and then it's just...
I don't disagree.
And now we're going to, you know, it's like the guy from the office who gets moved down, or it's an office space, that movie.
He was in Milton, he gets moved down to the bottom and they just keep sort of closing the walls in.
And finally, they just get to the point to where it's like, dude, you no longer have a job here.
It's over.
Like, it just feels like that's where the NFL is trying to get this.
Instead of trying to eliminate the play altogether with an advantage on the fair catch to go out to the 25,
you know, they've changed the way, you know, punts are, that play in particular has been, you know, played even kickoff formations.
I would wonder if they would ever look at trying to space out players more in like a kickoff formation to help reduce the amount of space in between both teams.
Because that's part of it too, is when you've got a lot of space, guys building up speed and running towards each other, it's just a big collision.
And so I wonder if there's a more creative way of trying to, you know, allow more kickoffs, but not necessarily allowing the media quite as much space between when they're doing this.
They did that.
What league was that they did it in?
Was that the USFL?
Maybe.
And I'm sure you'll continue to see experiments done in both the XFL and USFL as almost experimental leagues.
Or even even in the preseason, you know, you might see some of that.
I get asked you guys this.
How did they identify who was going to be the wedge breaker?
Was it the guy that seemed like he had a little something wrong with him and they said,
I was the wedge breaker my freshman year.
Okay, that makes sense.
The hell five, the hash guys, the wedge buster.
It was the guy who had no neck.
They're like, hey, get that guy.
It looks like he's a walking around like a battery.
He has no, he has no fear.
I'll tell you that.
So Davis Mills with his thermos neck would never be the wedge breaker.
That would be his neck.
If he wanted to really get a shorter neck, he'd have to go be the wedge breaker back in the
old days.
He would lose like eight inches off his neck.
He'd have a normal neck by by three seasons into his career being a wedge break.
That would be a trip watching a quarterback run down the hash.
All of a sudden you see Davis Mills racing at the Kentucky Derby.
You're just like, Hey, what happened to you pal?
I played wedge.
By the way, we do have an update.
We have a wedge breaker on the show here.
Let's go live to lead to laugh.
Who claims he was a wedge breaker.
I was a wedge breaker and the middle of the wedge.
Yeah.
And they made me put on a horse collar because I always knocked myself out.
I hurt my neck.
This is explaining a lot of things.
What high school was this Lee?
Notre Dame high school baby.
Yeah.
That's right, baby.
Yeah.
And we don't have you talked about these stories with Todd was Todd's like,
dude, no way.
I was a wedge breaker.
No way Todd played.
Did Todd say, Hey, Lee, you think you could put those football pants again one more time
or put that cowboy collar on again with with no no Jersey?
Only more camping though.
Yeah.
Todd, I think I played, you know, flag football.
I don't think he ever played real football.
He seems like he might have been a wedge buster too.
I mean, I don't know.
By the way, Lee, how are you feeling now?
Do you still wake up some days and have like fear of the fear of just breaking up the wedge?
Do you ever wish you could go back and do it again?
Oh, absolutely.
No fear.
No, just like LeVar said, you kind of had to just God, that's amazing.
How many times you knock yourself out, like countless, like what are we saying?
Like five, six.
Oh, I mean, once a once on.
I'll say that.
Lee, give me your mindset as you're running downfield.
If you can remember, I know it's been a while, but give me your mindset where you just like
biting your mouth, like all minutes, create destruction.
If there's any fear, it's the fear that I draw my flask.
If you don't go full speed, you will get hurt.
So you, yeah, that's true.
You just have to go as freaking fast as you can.
And it was always, yeah, it was actually really fast.
And it was always the biggest guy.
I was not big at all, but it was always against the biggest guy on the opposite team.
They'd always be cackling before the game looking over at me.
And then by the end of the game, I'd be knocking them out or did you get knocked out?
We'd like knock each other out usually.
We usually go down to one.
You hit each other and you just stop and go down to one knee and then stare at each other.
And I usually get dashed up at the end of the game.
Huh?
Do you guys ask each other while you were on one knee if you can cush each other, like
are you concussed?
No, I think you just know, right?
You just look at each other and you guys just looked at each other and like, yeah, I'm
concussed, dude.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I always got respect from the, from the opposite guy, the biggest guy on the team by the
end of the game.
He fell in saving this and using this is there.
Why are we adjusting the kickoff rules?
And they're using all of Lee's answers right now as he knocked himself out once.
Every single one.
Hold on.
You missed what Lee said.
He wasn't just a wedge buster.
He was part of the wedge, right?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
So you're on the other side.
So, so hold on.
Hold on.
His abuse.
Give me your perspective on that side as you're watching this dude fly down at you.
Yeah, you kind of, you, you definitely kind of measure each other up.
You kind of get a little nervous, but again, you kind of just got to flip that switch
and just know you got to go full speed.
Otherwise, you're going to get knocked out.
I remember when my brother played at Morepar College, it was junior college.
They were actually a pretty good team and one of his buddies, like his dear friend, his
role was he was the wedge breaker and we watched him in a game, go down and hit a group of
guys on the kickoff and get absolutely disintegrated.
And he was so buzzed that he came to the sideline and said, does that count as a pancake
because he got pancaked?
He had no idea of really what had happened.
And you just think about all and that's at the junior college level.
I can't even imagine at the pro level what those collisions look like from the sideline.
I had an NFL game.
I can't even imagine just the car wrecks every single time.
So, jeez, I had no idea.
Lee, I mean, it does explain a lot, but it props to you, buddy.
Hey, big props to you.
Every single wedge buster and guy.
I knew that was a part of that.
I always had the utmost respect for.
I remember one of our backup offensive linemen, Lenny Friedman, he was a backup center, super,
super smart guy.
I love talking to him just about football, business, everything else.
But he also seeing him get geared up to go out there to be a part of the wedge.
You knew exactly what was going through his brain.
Like this is potentially detrimental to my long term health, but he was his toughest
nails and he'd go out there and he'd go out there trying to blow someone up.
So it's a doggy dog world there.
He played on special teams.
Which was the meat wagon and wedge breaker?
I don't recall going back.
I just I would define him as a thumper.
Like he was he was our hardest hitting linebacker we had and he had no problem whatsoever in
flicking pain on other people.
Like you know, like some guys like when they are hard hitters, they'll like help the dude
up or something.
They kind of know.
Jake's the type that would have would have just walked right over a dude, like laid him
out and just like walked over and there's something.
No, he wouldn't extend anything.
He was just literally back on it and then walk right over top of them and like make sure
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Patros Papadak is the co-host of the Patros and Money Show, which you can hear on the blow
torch AM 570 LA Sports.
He's a Fox College football analyst.
Patros, good morning.
Hello.
Hello to everybody.
A little behind the scenes here.
We heard from some good sources that Patros was dying to talk about LeBron's decision.
Oh, could not wait need to break it down, but another decision.
But Patros, we need to start here because we've had several days to get some inside
Intel and trying to figure out what's going on.
But we got to know the very latest on the Bonerino.
We got to know.
We got to know.
We got to know.
We got to know about the Bonerino.
What happened with the what happened with Mike bone at USC, Patros?
You really don't.
You really don't know.
I don't know what happened.
You were on the air with me when it happened.
Yeah, but you've been doing some digging.
Come on.
You're the guy.
Well, the LA Times came out and kind of said that he was an HR nightmare and that he seemed
to be an HR nightmare in Cincinnati that USC didn't vet.
But you'd have to think that a couple creepy back massages didn't get this guy fired.
And then you wonder what what it is to get this guy fired because his firing is embarrassing.
Is it not?
Yeah, but it was on a Friday.
Nobody noticed.
Well, USC, Patros, we kind of come to expect it of late.
Well, that's kind of the thing.
I mean, that's the bar was so low that us USC types were just were just encouraged that
they hired a guy who'd been an athletic director before.
Seriously, he was an athletic director at Colorado and Cincinnati before.
And it felt like a safer hire and the new president who they vetted hard from North Carolina
apparently vetted him hard and they had a search firm, which is supposed to exonerate
you and take all the bullets for you if you make the wrong decision.
But USC hired a search firm to hire Clay Helton years ago.
And I don't understand why you need a search firm to hire somebody that's already on your
staff.
So they've done this before.
And it's a terrible error and it makes me feel it makes me feel disheartened.
I think it's disheartening because he must have done something pretty.
Embarrassing or pretty bad.
I was really fine.
This guy, we're the search for all he was on their staff.
Is that what you're saying?
Well, the clay help was.
Yeah, exactly.
Bone was at Cincinnati and then he had a guy with him named Brandon Sosna.
And you guys cannot believe just the new room massage these guys got from the LA media
when they came here and to see it all flipped so quickly and the LA Times actually sink
this guy's ship and then come out with more and more of a developing story as the weekend
goes on about he said this he did this.
But even all that stuff seems a little tame for the amount of embarrassment that this is
to USC.
This is the new president.
This is the new AD.
This is the new non good old boy network of USC and it didn't work.
So Lincoln Riley's out there flapping in the wind.
You don't have an AD.
You have a president that people have lost faith in.
But no one knows what's going to happen.
It seems like maybe Sosna given the job he did while he was at USC would maybe be a guy
that would want to bring back.
Is that is that a possibility for a replacement?
Well, I mean, he's connected to all the stuff the old Bonarino did or didn't do since
in Addie, you know, he's seen all this stuff.
He's totally connected to the other.
So you know, and now all of a sudden that the Bonarino is is no longer persona.
Grata at USC, you're starting to hear the whispers of stuff that we said all along.
Like they got lucky with Lincoln Riley.
They took a phone call late at night and Lincoln Riley came to them.
And this isn't that big of a deal and blah, blah, blah.
One thing he did do was hire a USC baseball coach that's having success.
And that's a big deal.
Was he a part of getting USC to the big 10 and kind of securing more financial stability?
Is that one of his take?
No, I think the USC took a call from Fox at a higher level than that.
But maybe you know more than me.
I mean, I'm sure he had some part in it.
What do you mean?
You work there too, Patros.
Yeah, what are you talking about?
Where?
At Fox.
Where?
Come on.
Yeah, I've been invited to the Mountain West media day.
Okay?
Not the...
I'm saying that by the way.
Is that the biggest?
Vegas.
Yeah, but I want the invite downtown Vegas.
That's right.
Invite it.
Yeah, I'll take you down to Fremont Street and show you a real mountain.
I don't get the...
Take you to the peak.
Nothing.
Little Bonar, you get invited?
Nothing.
I'll call games.
I just...
I would love to be in the room.
Nobody's invited me to.
I would love to be in the room when Petros meets with a search firm.
And they're like, we're recommending Clay Hilton.
He's on your staff.
I would love to see Petros' reaction to that.
How much we paying you guys?
That's not even what...
And that's...
All of it is just...
I mean, Steve Sarkeesian was hired by Pat Hayden.
And Chris Peterson was poisoned by Pat Hayden after an interview because USC wanted to hire
the drinking buddy.
And then they were like, oh my God, we can't believe he drinks.
It's honestly guys with USC, it's been so much over the years and so hard to calculate
because a lot of their embarrassments and really the more serious ones are not near the
football field.
Right.
And people just care about football and that's a big, that's a big draw.
But USC's had a lot of problems in the last 20 years basically because of a bad university
president named Max Nikias.
A lot of terrible things have happened.
And I don't know if you guys can relate with this with Penn State or Notre Dame or Jonas
with Thousand Oaks High School.
Great point.
I'm just...
Wow.
I'm too close to it now after all this stuff that's happened.
And it's kind of hard for me to make sense of it anymore.
I can't see the forest for the trees.
I start thinking about Mike Bohn and I get visions of Josh Shaw jumping out of his window
to avoid the police saying that he saved his nephew from drowning.
I think about Pete Carroll and then I get visions of Steve Sarkeesian doing up downs after a
drunken episode with Cody Kessler, the quarterback, overseeing him as a player.
I just... it's really hard.
What about the homeless guy?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That happened under the old Bona Reno.
You know, I think about Mike Garrett and then I think about that homeless guy returning
punts like Mike Garrett did back in the 50s.
Petros, I got a quick question for you though.
What happened to Clay Helton's golf simulator?
Did the bum take it with him or did he have to do that?
I would imagine it's still there.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's curious.
I don't know.
I haven't like, you know, it's so funny like how much money college football programs
make today because they're building, they just built this other USC facility and now they're
making plans to build another one for just for Lincoln Riley, a special Taj Mahal to his
offensive ability and ability to lose to two lane.
So...
Or Utah, you know?
Or twice.
Yeah.
Double up.
Ugh.
So...
Oh no.
So we'll see.
Can we get to LeBron?
We gotta ask for the bonus.
We gotta do whatever you want.
You guys asked about the bone, you know?
I wanna go bone, bone, bone, bone, bone.
That was Joseph doing.
It's 99 as a city where I'm from.
It's been...
The Lakers have been described.
I'm just by on top of your heart.
See you at the grassroots.
Right on the skimmel.
Oh man.
Oh man.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
The Lakers have been quote described as the greatest team to get swept in NBA history.
It is pathetic.
I mean, are they?
Well, no.
ESPN's coverage of this is absolutely assonai.
And a lot of the national media, like we don't really live, thank God for radio, but
we don't really live in a world where the headlines are all different anymore.
Right?
Everybody keeps the same talking points.
Politically, there's one side or another.
In sports, there's just one side.
And the talking point was what?
After game one, the Nuggets won.
Yeah, sure, but the Lakers made great adjustments.
Yeah, it was Brady's win.
You know, and I said that on your guys show.
And after game two, the Nuggets won, the Nuggets co-t-sided that and said something about putting
it in a pipe and smoking it.
Now that they were, they were up to nothing.
And then the Lakers go down three, oh, to a shocked crowd at Staples Center or whatever,
crypto.
And now the narrative turns to what?
They're going to be the first team ever to come back from 03.
Like people in the media were saying that.
Like people that know better were looking into a camera and saying that.
And then the Lakers get swept.
And what do we talk about LeBron's going to retire, which is asinine and not going to
happen.
Just something for attention for the off season, something to garner headlines.
Meaningless stuff.
And every single game, the intros were all about LeBron, all the cold opens, the teases,
all LeBron.
Every time the Lakers lost, they didn't shoot the Nuggets on the floor.
They shot LeBron walking off the floor.
And then of course they barely covered the Nuggets championship in the Western conference.
They're talking about LeBron being retired, which is stupid.
So I mean, it's a really hard charade or masquerade to be part of or cover.
I get it.
He's one of the great players in the history of the NBA.
But if I'm in Denver, I'd be disgusted.
I would, I would suggest TNT get the finals this year and do some kind of power move and
refuse to play because I mean, and look at the, you got Mark Jackson call in the action
who deliberately left, it seems left, joke, it's office thing and then had to apologize
and all this crap.
No excuse for that, honestly.
And then Lisa Salters, the sideline person who from the A crew said that she'd never
seen jokeish play on the radio a couple of weeks ago.
And that she was texting her friends like, wow, this guy's pretty good.
Like, that's okay for like a college football analyst like me like, wow, check out this
Serbian meathead.
You know, that's, but you're on the A crew of the ESPN bass.
Like you have the finals.
You're covering this guy, the best player in the world in the NBA finals.
You can't say on some idiot show the other day.
Well, haven't really seen him.
Like that's bad.
If I'm in Denver, I'm live it with the way this whole thing has been handled by the national
media, because all they want to do is grip LeBron's Putso and I'm tired of it.
Hey, uh, Petros, a, a, uh, Petros and Levar, uh, before we say goodbye to the old P here,
I just wanted to, you know, remember the great USC athletic director, the old bone Reno.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
I remember when they came out and everybody was like, easy E. Yeah.
Found a harmony rap group from Cleveland.
Yeah.
That's right.
You remember their first song, Levar was about the food stamp check.
The first one.
Oh, no, that's right.
It's the strongest, Ruggus ball.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
You got it.
Oh, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Come on, baby.
They was some harmonizing rappers, boy.
I could see Mike bone right now and like an impala driving down Crenshaw and the black
strip, which is what the store looks on right now.
Oh, yeah.
The big old blunt is my, oh, and, and, and, and, uh, a sweet flannel buttoned all the
way up to the top and, and, and what, what are those knock off $10 back?
What are those knock off $10 liquor store hats?
And just say LA, it's not actually identified of its Dodgers or Lakers.
It just says LA.
Yeah.
He's listening.
It's the thoggers, Ruggus ball.
Yeah.
Give it on up.
Pop, pop, pop, pop.
And one of those terrible, Fox sports nighttime shows at the beginning of FS one, one of our,
one of the guests on the panel was crazy bone or one of the bones.
And he drank like a half bottle of Hennessy before we went on and went on and he was like,
Oh, baby, baby.
I'm a mace.
Everybody.
We'll be right back.
Well, FS one late night.
Crazy bone.
Well, you right back.
Everybody.
How long are we going to be able to make fun of bone now that he's gone?
Not long.
Charles, the most famous uncle there is in the rap culture.
No, uncle's new.
I'm a snoop snoop is uncle.
He's no longer with us, but snoop.
Oh, oh, Nate dog.
Well, remember Nate dog?
Well, yeah, but Nate dog the singer.
Every other city we go.
Every other video.
And everywhere I go.
I see the same.
Oh, yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Warren G.
Warren G.
Yeah.
I'm on the show.
He came on with Nate dog.
But who's uncle is he?
I'm saying.
Well, I'm assuming somebody snoops uncle, but I forget his name.
I don't know.
We do know.
That's innocent, but we ain't never seen uncle Charles, but we know uncle Charles.
We do know.
I think he's in the video.
Oh, man.
No, that ain't one of the spirits meeting you.
Yeah, he's one of the people in the sky.
Remember they did all the people on the couch.
He was on the porch.
They came and got him.
Oh, that's right.
I'm chilling on the porch.
He just touched his head.
Bloom.
He rolled out.
I remember that.
Yeah, I remember that.
That's what happened to bone.
Yeah, a little boat or a no.
Petros always fun at the old P on Twitter.
And guys, everybody Lakers in nine.
Come on.
Yeah.
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