Hour 2: Brady & Jonas – THE PONIES

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We appreciate you doing so and we bring it to you live from the tire act.com studios tire act.com will help you get there an unmatched selection. Fast reshipping free road hazard protection and over 10,000 recommended installers tire act.com the way tire buying should be my man Brady Quinn. Yeah, what's up, Jonah? Yeah. Yeah. Our two baby. Let's roll. Um, so the Buffalo bills. Are in kind of this weird spot seemingly. We've talked about this at various points during the off season that, yeah, just someone seems a little off, you know, it just seems like there's, you know, things are a little off there. Well, uh, apparently we now know what the problem was, or at least what the problem was the last time the bill stepped on a field. The problem was they don't play in a dome. That according to Isaiah Mackenzie, the former bills wide receiver who's now an Indianapolis cold who spoke with go long, is Tyler Dunn and talked about the issues that the bills had when it came to playing in Buffalo in that playoff game and what their problem was against the Cincinnati Bengals saying, quote, the Bengals ran basic routes. Maybe we should have did that ran basic routes like out routes, go balls, you know, instead of running routes that you have to be going lateral or coming back to the football or turning and running curls and things like that. If we were in a dome, it would have been a totally different game. End quote from Isaiah Mackenzie. Now, Jamar Chase also saw this via social media and said, uh, it was the first time he'd ever played in snow. You just got to play at the end of the day. So it feels like the bills might have themselves a problem if what Isaiah Mackenzie is saying is true because they are building a new stadium and that too will not have a dome. So we could be looking at like 40 to 50 years now of problems for the Buffalo Bills every time weather is an issue there up in the up in New York and upstate New York there. Well, I mean, look, there's some truth to what Isaiah Mackenzie is saying. I mean, if they were there, a dome, it would have been a different game for, for both teams. Um, I'm not necessarily sure that it would have played to the bills advantage though, because it wasn't so much the weather factor that I think and I'll get to that in a second. It wasn't so much the weather factor that really stood out. It was the lack of physicality that the bills offensive and defensive lines played with. And that was the biggest glaring difference. And that was the biggest mismatch. I thought the bills were going to have going into it and be able to beat the Bengals with it. That was what was surprising about it. So, um, they could talk about the weather conditions, but like that is your home field advantage in Buffalo, right? Like, isn't weather supposed to be like where you excel and you're able to take advantage of that at home with your Buffalo? Yes. I mean, if I'm, if I'm part of the bills mafia and I'm hearing a player say that, I'm, I'm thinking to myself, this is good. Like this is, this is supposed to be our wheelhouse. This is like our, our home field advantage. You put a dome on that. It all goes away. And, and now we're just trying to rely on winning, I guess, and beating someone in a shootout. Is, is that what you'd rather have? Um, either way, I just, it's, it's funny. Sinks of the Bengals comments coming out of it. You know, Jamart, Shay, saying it's the first time, you know, he's, he's played and that's those sort of conditions. Tyler Boyd, I think had a little more choice words for our same Mackenzie. And then the truth of the matter is it, you know, this is going to be a great matchup moving forward whenever we see the bills, bangles square off. It's, it's going to be a point in television for that. But also like, what's the excuse going to be if the bangles continually, you know, have a take, take advantage of the bills? If they end up, you know, all of a sudden just having the bills number, almost similar to how burrow to a degree minus last year kind of had Kansas city's number as the starting quarterback for the bangles. Like what does the narrative change to then? At some point, I think for the bills, they've got to get over this hump. And maybe this year, because they don't have the expectations that were placed on them last year, they'll be able to go into the season and not feel the weight of the world and not be the betting favorite to go win a Super Bowl. And maybe that'll allow them to play a little more free, a little more loose, but it does feel like something's missing. Yeah. You know, Leslie Frazier takes a step back as their defensive coordinator. You know, Ken Dorsey in his first year, I think I'm sure there's some things that they would like to do better and there's some things they're going to be, you know, trying to, you know, improve upon, I think finding more balance, you know, would be one of those things. Who knows where Stefan digs heads at. You feel like it might be in a good place, but the season, it didn't feel like it ended that way. It's really, there's a lot of question marks around this team. And I'm not saying that they're not going to be the best in the division because of those questions, but it feels like there's momentum. There's hype. There's a lot of off season moves that were made for other teams. Now you got some legit competitors in the AFC East. You and I were texting during the game. And I remember this. We were texting during that match up between Cincinnati and Buffalo in the playoff game. And it was early on when since he went down and scored and went up seven nothing and we were even saying to each other, Hey, this is over. Like you could just tell that the Bengals were a better team that day. You could do it. There was just, there was a vibe to it to where they had to pan up to De Mar Hamlin and show them arriving at the stadium and they did a close up shop and shot and it was almost like they were using that to fuel the bills. And I'm thinking to myself, man, if you're going that direction here, when you're at home in a playoff game to try and get this team ready to go, when Cincinnati is going up and down the field. And then you can just tell them that they're going to be able to get this team ready to go. And then you can just tell them that they're going to be able to get this team ready to go. And then you can just tell them that they're going to be able to get this team ready to go. 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And then you can just tell them that they're going to be able to get this team ready to go. I think I know the direction obviously the bills are going. We talked about the difference in that game versus Cincinnati. That's how we've let off this segment. And if they're looking at doing now with with Dalton Kincaid as one tied in and then Dawson knocks as the other. More of those two tied in 12 personnel sets. That might be the direction they're going where we start to see a fair amount of 12 personnel, not as much 11, not as much three wide receiver, one tied in, one running back sets. Because that's more the invoke thing that everyone else is doing right now. And maybe Sean McDermott steps back and says we need to get back to being able to control games by running the football whenever we want. But then off of that, having the play action pass, having the deep shots downfield, having the drop back passing game. And these are all things that we can do out of two tight end sets because of Dalton Kincaid's ability to split out and split out almost as a wide receiver. Dawson knocks can do some of that too. But if we've got two guys we feel really good about and two guys we feel like are good enough blockers. Now Knox is a better blocker than Dalton Kincaid's going to be. But that personnel grouping might be the way they want to go about handling a lot of the issues that surfaced during that bangle's loss heading into the season. And maybe as everyone else goes one direction, wanting to spread things out more and more 11 personnel, they're saying, no, no, let's get back to some of those base personnel groupings. See if we can't work on running the football better, more play action, more things to protect Josh Allen from that, putting him in a position where he's got to play Superman. And maybe that's more of the direction. So look, there's still the best team in the division in my opinion. I think the Jets now with Rogers are right there. It's just a matter of how fast they can all gel together. But it's going to be fascinating to watch this season. Like the kickoff of the NFL season can't come soon enough. Yeah, it's going to be really fun. Here's what else is really fun. We've got some Brady coin game show music here. Are you ready for this? All right, now that you've talked about this AFC East and you just said, hey, you think Buffalo is still the best team in the AFC East. So let me ask you, if you had the guests right now, right, what would you say the betting odds courtesy of our friends at DraftKings would be for the bills to win the AFC East. And in fact, what order do you project that DraftKings and the betting market would say this AFC East is going to shape up life? What would you say? It'll say Bill's Jets, Dolphins, Patriots. That is correct. And the betting odds for the Buffalo Bills. I will say they are plus 200 plus 115. So pretty close to even money. In the New York Jets with Aaron Rodgers and all the buzz and the celebrations in the off season and Zach Wilson as the most discussed backup quarterback in the NFL, the New York Jets at plus 280 to win the AFC East. That is juicy, juicy, ripe for the pickings plus 280 for those New York Jets. I like the Jets, man. Something's wrong. You like the value there on the Jets? Yes. Plus 280. I mean, just because it's plus 280 doesn't mean it's great value. We could get into the season based on their schedule release, which we can kind of comb through that. We're going to see them on primetime a decent amount. Maybe they stumble a little bit, right? And if they ended up opening up one and two, one and three, you would have the opportunity to probably get them a little better value at that point. But I think they're probably closer to a favorite to Buffalo than those odds display. But I don't know how much closer until we actually see them play. Yeah. Well, I'm not waiting that long. I may pull the trigger on this right away. I'm just letting you know right now. And listen, I don't know if we can bet the exact result, but the way I'm feeling right now, I got Jets, dolphins, bills and Patriots in that order finish. And it would not surprise me if the Buffalo Bills didn't make the playoffs. How's that? You want a hot take? It would not surprise me if the bills don't make the playoffs. And that, by the way, pays out plus 195. Yeah. That's, that's not going to happen. Just throw it out. Just throw it out. I think they're going to make the playoffs. It is two pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio Brady, Quinn, Jonas Knox. So the here you can listen to this show is always on the I heart radio app. But coming up next though from the tire act.com studios, there is somebody in the NFL that is up to the same old tricks again. But this time did they uncover some bad blood with one of the all time greats. We'll tell you who that is right here on Fox Sports Radio. 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Two pros and a cup of Joe Fox sports radio Brady Quinn, Jonah stocks with the here coming up in, we'll call it a little over 20 minutes from now. Later on this hour, we are going to have an FSRIR, a Monday tradition, things in the world of sports and beyond. We have not had a chance to discuss yet, but a little venting session, if you will, so we'll have that for you again, a little over 20 minutes from now here from the tireak.com studios. I think Jim Murray say might have been in happy hour on Friday, just based on just some of his activity on social media. Okay. So we talked about and you talked about your experiences with the great Jim Brown who passed away at the age of 87. And so Jim Murray say decided to pop on social media on Twitter like he likes to do and said on my list of top five greatest NFL players of all time in our 103 year history. I have my top five is Jim Brown, Tom Brady, John Elway, Deacon Jones and Reggie White. It's a great list, great list, all great players. And I think a lot of people look at those guys and goes and they say to themselves, hey, can't argue with a lot of those except for the fact that, you know, Peyton Manning was nowhere to be found. He went on to say that, yeah, no doubt because I think he got some pushback because Peyton Manning did play there for quite some time there in Indianapolis that no doubt Peyton Barry Sanders and Jerry Rice are in the top 10. It's just that Elway didn't have great offensive players around him till the end when he won two in a row and his feet were remarkable from baseball talent. So he defended and doubled down putting John Elway on his top five list over Peyton Manning, the same John Elway who refused to play for the Colts organization back when Jim Mersey's dad was around and owned the team. But still that's the same guy that you would put in over one Peyton Manning. So I mean, look, it's his top five list who cares. He can say whatever he wants, but it just, I do wonder if there's some sort of an issue there between him and Peyton Manning, Jim Mersey feels like there's a little bit of a divide there between those two. I mean, let's go back to when Peyton Manning left. I mean, they did release him. Yeah. I mean, the bottom line is you can look at that however you want. When you're released from a team, there's another term they call it Jonas. You know what that term is? Cut. Cut. You know what the other term is? What's that? Fired. Okay. That's what it is. When they bring you in, they bring your playbook, right? Like that whole conversation, they are releasing you. They are cutting you. They are an essence firing you because you're under a contract. You're no longer, they're no longer under any obligation to pay you for your services. That's what that is. So we can call it a bunch of different things, but they did part ways in an amicable way. And the neck injury and the, I guess maybe hesitation to commit to Peyton moving forward given that they had the number one overall draft pick. You look happened to be that generational prospect that they were going to go draft. All the stars aligned for the Colts to at that moment move on. And I think Peyton going to Denver, doing what he did in Denver, getting the two Super Bowls, winning one, having it, maybe the greatest season we've ever seen or one of the greatest seasons we've ever seen during his time there. But really putting together an offensive, you know, firepower with that group was pretty remarkable. I mean, it almost was maybe she even showing Jim Ursay like, yeah, I still, I still got this. I could still do this. Denver still or excuse me, Peyton still lives in Denver to this day. He's been going to the Western Conference final games. So I kind of look at it and think, yeah, maybe there's some, a little bit of bitterness there or discontent just with the how things ended and how he had to transition to another team. But it's just odd. I mean, someone who has meant so much, especially not only to the franchise, but just to Jim Ursay specifically. And you put Tom Brady on there who obviously is going to be on the list because he's arguably the greatest of all time. But that was your arch nemesis, right? Like if Jim Ursay came out, had Peyton ranked ahead of Tom Brady, like everyone would be understanding. Yeah. You know, like I don't think they would have, you know, sat there and really second guessed anything. So it's just, it's a bit odd that he felt the need to do that. I know it was motivated by the past of Jim Brown. And then so obviously it was paying a compliment to Jim Brown, but you know, Peyton Manning didn't have to catch a stray just because Jim Ursay wanted to put out a tweet. It's just, it's weird. I mean, and if you just for anything other than the fact that like where were the Indianapolis Colts before Peyton Manning arrived? They were just kind of whatever. Like I mean, they were, you know, they didn't have a 10 win season for like 20 years or 30 years or no, it was 20 years. And then Peyton Manning got there and they had that down year, his rookie season, but I think everybody felt like, okay, but at least they're heading in the right direction. So they go from a 20 year run where they're winning at best nine games a year, Peyton Manning gets there and all of a sudden they're a perennial Super Bowl contender pretty quickly and we're a Super Bowl contender for over a decade. He was there 13 years and he was only in Denver for four. And to your point, it feels like there's a more, more of a connection with Denver in his four years spent there playing than there was Indianapolis when, look, he got him a Super Bowl. They went to another one. I just, I don't understand. Like I really don't like, and if it was, if it was an amicable split, you would think Jim Ursay would be happy about the fact that, hey, look, Peyton Manning went on, he had success elsewhere, but we're both in agreement that he's going to walk away and he's going to go find work elsewhere. And then it's not like you were sitting there searching for a quarterback. You had Curtis painter and company when Peyton Manning was out that year with the neck injury and you ended up landing Andrew Luck and sorry that Andrew Luck decided to retire early on the sidelines of a preseason game. But it felt like everything the transition was set up smoothly on both sides. Yet for some reason, Jim Ursay still has some sort of a bone to pick it seems like. I'm not going to go that far, but I think he hates his guts. How about that? You go that far? Yeah, that's how you basically let off the show. Time out Joe Masulek in can. I still haven't really gotten over that. Tell him truth here. Well, the truth is if you think about just how humans typically react when, I mean, look, there was a lot of teams who threw in their hat, who were clamoring for Peyton Manning. There was only a handful that ultimately truly he was probably going to go to or maybe was interested in. And Denver ended up being the team that was able to give him everything he wanted. So John Fox and John L. Way and Adam Gaze, the rest of the crew who brought him in, they were willing to adapt. Mike McCoy was a part of that group. They were willing to adapt to the offense that paid him one to bring. And I don't know that many other places were willing to do that. They took a chance on him knowing that there could be a potential issue with his neck. He had to have a number of surgeries. And but they were the ones to be able to invest in him, take a chance in him, build that roster around him. He had a ton of influence and into what they were doing to in the front office. I mean, everything. And he probably looked at that thinking to myself, man, like, and by the way, it's an awesome place to live. Not saying Indianapolis isn't, but it was more of like that city, that team and organization opened themselves up to him in his most vulnerable time. If there was ever a time where Peyton Manning, he felt vulnerable in his career. It was coming off the neck injury. And the Denver Broncos opened up. They gave him everything he wanted. And ultimately they had, he had a ton of success during that, that, that timeframe. And I think that's to where you see now, it's like it's, it'd be hard to look back at India and not, you know, feel a little bit of discontent or bitterness, even with all the success and all the time that he spent there. That's just human nature. But I'm looking at paid mannings run like his first three years in Denver. Good God, man. It was incredible. Like good God. I'm just, and it was really that three year, because the final year, obviously he dealt with the, he was injured when they finally won that Super Bowl. But from 2012 to 2014, like he lit the league up. Yeah. Like it was MVP twice, I believe. Or did he, did he win MVP? I know he won once. I know he was all pro, but two of those three years pro, obviously for all three, but yeah, I mean, he's, he played as good as anyone. When you throw for 50, almost 5,500 yards, like, yeah, that's pretty ridiculous. Like 55 touchdowns, 10 picks, I'm really, like you just, you go back and you think about that. I can't believe it's been a decade, by the way, but you go back and you just think about how great those teams were with, you know, Demarius Thomas and Eric Decker and those guys and when I think you wouldn't want MVP was second. Yeah, second. Yeah. I'm seeing that here. So, but yeah, so apparently that is the situation. Jimmer say, I would like to fire off some tweets and, and ruffle some feathers on social media from time to time. It is two pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. The one thing though, about Jimmer say, I will say nothing artificial, right? Nothing artificial whatsoever because did you know that our artificial turf on football fields causes 32% more non-contact knee injuries? American grass seed company, Pennington is on a mission to ban turf fields with their hashtag flip the turf movement. So go to pennington.com slash flip the turf now to learn more and sign the petition for teams to hashtag flip the turf to real grass. All right. So coming up, we are going to have an FSR IR here on two pros and a cup of Joe, but for all the latest from around the world of sports, this man doesn't need an IR because he won again. He pulls names from hats. He takes $1 lot of scratchers and turns them into over $100. He is the one he is the only Eddie Garcia. Thank you, Jonas. Let's start off with NBA playoff action. Game three Eastern Conference finals. The heat. No trouble beating the Celtics. 128 to 102. Gabe Vincent, career high 29 points. Duncan Robinson, 22 points. Those are your two high scorers in the win from Miami. Jason Tatum led the Celtics, but he had only 14 points. Miami, the eight seat in the east. Now as a three oh series lead, they can follow it up with a sweep on Tuesday on their home court to advance to the NBA finals. NHL Stanley Cup playoffs. Game two Western Conference finals. Golden night score late in the third to tie it then early and overtime to beat the Dallas Stars. Three to two Chandler Stevenson with the game winner in sudden death Vegas with a two oh series lead having won both games at home in overtime. Golf at the PGA championship. Brooks kept a shot of final round 67. They came the first live golfer to win a major. It is his fifth career major victory. He finished two shots better than Scotty Sheffler and Victor Hovland joins only Tiger Woods and Jack Nicholas's players to win the PGA championship three times or more in the modern era. Baseball. Beat the Rays six four in a battle division leaders. That's Tampa's just fourth home loss in 29 games at home this season. Braves get by the Mariners three to two. The Rangers beat up on the Rockies 13 to three to get a three game series sweep. Yankees are up a three game sweep of the Reds with a four one win. Met sweep a double header from the Guardians. It take game one five four. Max Scherzer six shutout innings in that one. Although we got a no decision and that's one and then they come back and win the second game as well to one with Justin Verlander on the mountain with eight innings. A lot of one run in getting the win Mets one five in a row Orioles down the Blue Jays eight three and eleven innings. Cedric Mullins a five hit game for Baltimore. They get the three game series sweep. Astro shutout the A's to nothing to win their seven straight. Framber Valdez complete game for it shutout for Houston. They drop Oakland to 10 and 38 on the year. Oscar Mercado had five RBI for the Cardinals and their 10 five one over the Dodgers. The Angels beat the twins for two. Shoei Otani six innings one run allowed nine strikeouts in a no decision. But the halos do get the victory. By the white sauce wrap up a sweep of the Royals with a five to win. Then back to Brady Quinn and Jonas Knox the tire act.com Fox Sports Radio studios. Thanks Eddie. Two pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio brought to you by Discover at the end of your first year. Discover credit cards automatically double all the cash back. You've earned that's right. Everything you've earned doubled seriously. See terms and check it out for yourself at discover.com forward slash match. All right. So Brady Quinn, I got to ask you a question here. What happened? Like what happened with me? Remember when we were at the Breeders Cup in Keeneland back in November and you and I are just cruising around after the show and we're out there, you know, like watching the ponies making some pics and we're winning. We're feeling good. Like people are trying to take pictures with us. I mean, mostly you and they're asking me to hold the camera, but it felt like I had finally figured out this horse betting and horse racing thing. I felt like really coming to my groove. It was that day you found it out. And since then there's nobody worse at anything on planet earth than me picking horses to win races. I would say betting in general, you're pretty bad. No, I feel like horse racing is really where I struggle. Like some of the other sports I feel like, you know, I found a groove. Look, I called the heat. I said the heat would win that series. I said it would be in six games, but unfortunately it doesn't look like it's going to get to six games with the Boston Celtics. But when it comes to horse racing, awful, absolutely awful. One of the horses I picked this week, and I thought, look, it was a what a seven or eight horses in the race at the, at the preakness over the weekend. One of the horses that I picked finished dead last. Like at that point, don't even show up to the race. Yeah. I mean, you should probably just quit betting too. That's part of it. Well, we're just the fun in that. I mean, I don't know. It was a hell of a race though. I'll tell you that much. It was the thing I appreciated the most though. And it's, it's, I'm forgetting who finished second, but the jockeys down the stretch. Blazing sevens finished second because I also bet on blazing blazing sevens. That's how I know that to win it. Yes, of course you do. Yes. But it was down the stretch when his jockey was kind of, you know, bumping into and kind of created some contact with Jose Velasquez. And I just, I was watching thinking to myself like this is, you know, this, there should, I thought they were going to make some sort of disqualification because it seemed like there's a lot of intent, at least on the side of blazing sevens as the horse came into them. But either way, Mage was, was the favorite going into it. Couldn't really get anything going down the final stretch. I mean, started to make a move, make a run. And I know the first half of leg was, was slow, which somehow in talking to the ownership group of, of Mage, it seems like they were upset about that. And they didn't maybe like how the horse was positioned. Either way, it doesn't matter. National treasure ran a hell of a race wide or wide or winning that thing. So let me, so you're trying to say that blazing sevens was cheating a bit there, trying to, uh, trying to get a little bit of an advantage. Oh, they were trying to get. Yeah. I mean, go back and watch it. Yeah. The way there was kind of contact there were kind of, you know, chicken wing to back and forth. So, so the horse that I picked to win, not only did it not win, but also tried to cheat and still didn't win is probably should have been disqualified. Yeah. It's just it's, I'm so, I'm so terrible. I mean, they say Ruben's racing, but that was, I don't know. That was a little much. So terrible at it. Look, and I'll say this for people that, you know, want to, you know, dismiss horse racing, and there's a lot of ugly stuff that goes on with horse racing, whether it's the PEDs that we've talked about, horses dying and all the other fun stuff that comes along with that, when you get a race like that down the stretch, it is phenomenal television to be and just imagine being there live. It's really, really fun. So I don't know if your girls are into the, into the ponies or into the horse racing, but that might be something that, that you don't know their appearance. They love horse racing. Here's the problem. Last time I tried to take my youngest, who was too young, she's now three Cassidy. She was so upset. She couldn't go down and ride the horses. And there was like nothing we could do to console her. So like we try to take her to the paddocks because we want her to see the horses, but then she was mad. She couldn't like ride them. She literally, and maybe she was the same size as a jockey. So that's why she kept looking and like yelling at the jockeys because she wanted to turn. And so she was yelling at them for not giving her a turn on the horse. And it was, it was hard. It's hard to explain at that point. This is like over a year ago, basically a two year old to be able to explain to her why she can't ride the horse because she's been to other little, you know, the zoo or somewhere else where she has. So I learned that lesson. There's no chance you should be taking a two year old ever to the horse track, even though they did think it was cool. It's fun to see the horses run, but she just couldn't understand why she couldn't ride it. And now now what was the move to calm her down? Did you just like show her like take her and I literally went and said, all right, where's your next 10,000 $20,000 horse claiming race? And I debated trying to get an ownership group there around us to go buy the horse just so that my daughter would stop crying and so that we could, we could just move on the rest of our day. I was, I was talking to people in the crowd. I said, all right, who's in on this? Let's go buy a horse. All right. When everyone finishes dead last, maybe we can get a discount and we'll just let our kids go right on that because there were a few other kids who were at the race as well. Only 10 to $20,000. That's it. I thought it would be a lot more expensive than that. Wasn't didn't he horse that won the Derby a couple of years ago? Was it like $50,000? I don't even know if it was that much. I thought it might be like a 30, but it might have been a 50. Wow. Yeah. And turned into a we got to think if you've got a horse that's running in a $50,000 claiming race and it finishes dead last, that owner might be willing to step part ways with it for a much, you know, much lower fee. Great point. It's like a used car at that, at that end. Yeah, to that of the glue factory. Oh, come on. By the way, is there any truth to that? Like when horses move on or run their final time in life, that take their last lap, if you will, like, does it really mean I don't know. I have no idea. I mean, I think, you know, typically that's where we'd have Lee affording something like this. I do think Eddie and Birdo would be good people to ask in this regard, though. Birdo's got some inside information on how this stuff works. Yeah. For the glue factory, when it comes to horses, yeah, we will, we will effort some of the information on that. Maybe a spokesman from Elmer's will chime in at some point in time. Well, rubber cement, like, well, what does rubber cement fall in the mix there? I'm not sure. Okay. Yeah, not sure. But does anybody use Elmer's anymore? It seems like it doesn't work. The horse comes out vehemently saying no horses are used in their glue. Okay. So Elmer's got a horse in their label, then. That's a good question. Hey, Lee. Is that a horse on the Elmer's glue? I thought it was a cow on the horse back in the day. Is it not? I don't know. I mean, if it is, it's a pretty cruel prank to play. It's a me joke. Yeah. That glue always smells good. Yeah. Yeah. You're ever seen kids eat that in class. I'm not as glue. Like he's an adult. See that. That's nasty. I don't know how anybody. Well, yeah, there's something about it when you smelled it. You're like, Oh, it's art. It's good. Yeah. Like that is stuck to old macaroni when you're making necklaces. That's right. Yeah. 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I'll make him stuff. I'll have everything lined up. I'll put it together. I'm not the world's greatest chef in the world. You know, I'll get them all dialed in. I'll have some fruit. I'll have a little tiny piece of toast. I'll have some some eggs with some no salt seasoning added on, you know, a little little, you know, Mrs. Dash throwing in there. I've got it all lined up for him and ready to go. Hey, buddy, what do you think? We'll give this one a give this one a whirl and he'll do this. No, no, no, no, and wave his finger at me like he's de Kambé Matombo. I swear to God. Well, that's just the move. You know how kids learn, right? How's that? They watch their parents. Yeah. Yeah. So, so one of the tricks that I learned is if you want your kids to eat, sometimes you have to sit down and eat with them. Yeah. It makes it a little easier for them then to watch what their dad's doing or their mom's doing. Yeah. And then eat as well. So I think that might be something where you're not going to like it, but you might have to change your habits back. Right. The intermittent fasting, probably not the best move for a child and two years old. So yeah, I've noticed that there's just other little things to where I'm like, how where does he get that from? Then I realize, oh man. Yeah, that's, that's me. Like that's, that's something that I would do. Gets, gets frustrated at something. Uh, you know, if he's, if he's trying to get stuff done and things are, you know, being a distraction, he'll get frustrated and then just sort of walk away out of pure anger. Like I just like these little things pop up throughout the course of the day with him that I realized, man, that's some stuff I probably got to work on. You know, all these years later, I finally figured it out. Who needs therapy when you got that to be reminded of? So there's that. Well, my issue is last night went to a very nice dinner with my in-laws and my wife. What up in-laws? And I ate so much food. I had, I had to literally leave the table and go for a walk. I was like, I was uncomfortably full. And I haven't done that in a long time. And I was, I was walking, I was thinking to myself, why do you do this? Like, why, and I know why. It's because I don't get many opportunities to go out and really go to that particular restaurant and really enjoy. But every single step of the way, I'm the exact opposite of your IR story because I was so uncomfortably full. And I just, I had to take a walk. I think I walked like half a mile. What kind of food were we talking about? It was kind of an assortment, all sorts of things. I mean, everything from sushi to the guy in some tacos mixed in there, one point and an empanada as well. It might have been a half burger that was down to one point. So it was, it was a lot of food. I really didn't eat yesterday until that meal. So. Yes. So what's wrong with that? So you, you still have to be out there. Well, I, I felt like probably how a snake feels when it tries to eat like an alligator and it's like trying to swallow it. But you knew during the course of the meal that you needed to stop and you just could. There's no chance. I was like, well, I know there's another course coming out and I know how good that's going to be. So I'm going to keep eating that. Yeah. Like sometimes there's this struggle. Like I learned if you had a certain restaurants that have bread rolls when they bring the bread out, like your master's where you tend to go. You know, I've actually never been there. I don't know. That's not true. How is that place? I mean, yeah, I've said you gift cards there. So you must have re-gifted them. I don't know. I don't know. That's not true. You know that. But yeah, I've, I've run into that issue where you get stuff up on bread and all the other fun stuff that comes along with it. And then next thing, you know, the meal comes out. And then do you take stuff home to go? Are you one of those go doggy bag route or you? Oh, I for sure will. But like last night I wasn't leaving anyone, but there was no one left behind. If there was, if there was something on the table, I was cleaning that up. I was not going to, I mean, the food was too good. So because I'm more, I'm into the doggy bag route, like I'll eat a portion of the meal and then I don't like to eat the whole thing. And then I'll just take the rest home and then pick at it later on. I like to pick, you know, we should never eat in the same room. I would make fun of you for not eating at that moment the rest of the meal. Yeah, just half it up. You know, it's like the least masculine thing you can do. Yeah, but every other element of my day is all about masculinity. It's really not. It is. I mean, can I get birdo to weigh on on this? Everything from the weightlifting to everything that comes along with that. I bet birdo would rather eat it than take it to go and wait till later. It's birdo. You're not a doggy bag guy? Actually, uh, no, I'm not going to sit there and eat the whole thing. I can't. I want to eat the same day though. Eat it the next day. Yeah, you take it home. That's just disgraceful. What's the disgraceful? I can't. I can't. For someone for someone who loves food as much as you do, birdo, that's so disappointing. I can't. I can't eat like I used to. I have one meal a day. I tried yesterday and I did not work out. Yeah. By the way, the end, the older you get, the more you realize how much we were lied to growing up. Well, breakfast is the most important meal of the day. I need three meals a day, man, my ass. When's the last time you guys actually had three meals a day? It's, it's been probably Saturday. What was that? That's, I mean, for being real. Here's what I will say to that though for kids. You and again, like this is just from experience I've got four. Look, when kids don't eat, they get in bad moods. That's when they act up. That's when they act out. Yes. You got to, you got to continually give them an energy source. Yes. They stay consistent. That's why they need three, four, five snacks, meals, whatever you want to call them today. And, and I've also, I've seen with my son, like I had this, where when I was a kid, if I would have a bowl of cereal, I would eat part of it and then I'd walk away and do something and then I would come back. So I would, like an intervals, like I was always like that as a kid. Like I think my body would just tell me, man, if you go, if you go that hard and you finish off the rest of the bowl, you're not going to feel great. So I would just, I would leave for like 10, 15 minutes and come back. So going hard for you is not finishing a bowl. That's how that was my thought process as a kid. Like that's how I just, I thought about it. I just, I didn't want to eat the entire thing because I just felt like I can eat cereal. I'll get a headache. Oh, that's sugar. It will like headache for cereal? Yeah, all the sugar. Yeah. What? Yeah, I'll give you a headache. Sugar gives you headaches? Well, yeah, when you're pretty diabetic, it's probably not a good one. Sugar's, uh, cereal. Yeah, it's probably like, you don't have to tell us all of your medical conditions. Oh my God. Oh, he wants these good though. By the way, by the way, burn it. I've never heard anyone tell me sugar gives them a headache though. Birdo makes it seem like he's about to get a hand removed. Like, come on, man. Everything's fine. It's all good. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsportsradio.com. And within the I Heart Radio app search FSR to listen live.