Hour 2: LaVar, Brady & Jonas – ALBERT BREER

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Was it just the first day or do you miss the first two days of voluntary OTAs? Whatever was he missed the start. So so he just missed the first day. Now here's my question. Are you sure on this? Sure. Because he said that he wanted to be there and he you know, obviously they've got a new offense to learn and all that. So the importance of him being there is to trying to get accustomed to everybody and all the surrounding pieces and parts and all that. But shouldn't that be every year if you're a quarterback? Like the players at these teams that are taking part in this kind of give the side eye to even veteran quarterbacks who aren't there for voluntary OTAs. Like it feels like it might be perceived as a bad look quote unquote. If the starting quarterback of the team is not partaking while you've got 60, 70, 80% of the roster they're working out with the team. It depends. I mean, I think if you've been there a long time and you're comfortable and confident enough with the offense, it's not mandatory. We've seen other guys not be there and do it. I think the only thing that would cause you to be a bit concerned is you do have a new offense. Todd Monckens there now calling plays for Baltimore, which is different. That's part of it. And then you've got new additions to the team. You've got Odell Beck and we've got Nelson Aguilar. You've got Zay Flowers, a draft pick. And so you want to develop chemistry with those guys and it's going to take time. You know, you need all the reps you can get because you really just don't get them as much as you used to. So I don't, you know, I'd look at it and say it's not that big of a deal, but you'd like Lamar to be there, you know, with those things in consideration. But look, if some of those guys already have been there, if OBJ and Park Andrews and guys are working somewhere else, then it's kind of tough because you could be just working out with them, you know, getting down the timing and chemistry or you'd be with, you know, the rest of the team. But I think after the investment, the team made in him, they'd probably like him to be around. You know, your quarterback a lot of times is what leaders and sets the culture and sets kind of the precedent. And so that's probably more from at least the ownership standpoint, what they'd like to see and especially with with Monk in there in a new offense, which Lamar is well aware of that. I mean, it's why he only missed a day. I think he was at least there for the second one. Yeah, I think there's more than enough reasons for everyone to be there, right? Like even if you work out in different places, the team underperformed last year, OBJ's fighting for his career, you know, you're you're a newbie. I don't even know if rookies have. I don't know the rules anymore used to be like during graduation or doing something like that rookies were excused and stuff like that and or whatever. But for the most part, you get rookie many camp, rookie like OTAs and stuff like that. You know, you're pretty much and they're getting contracts done way earlier with rookies just because of the whole way, way, you know, rookie contracts are done anymore. So you don't really have holdout or negotiation, you know, situations taking place where there's a reason for the rookie not to be in OTAs or mini camps. I don't even know. Do they still have many camps? Like, does it still go like? Yeah, I actually miss my graduation because we had rookie many camps. So I was at commitment. Well, that was before they gave you options. Yeah, that was, you know, well, I'm not going to say what I was going to say. That would be a little controversial. Come on. Well, I'm not going to say it. Now they're like, everyone's like, you know, highlighting and being like, you know, you have people in the front office standing next to players at graduation. They're like, no, this is great. Like players are graduating. I'm like, back in our day, they was like, yeah, if you're graduating, yeah, they're like, yeah, you're not walking. You need to get your ass in the huddle and then come here to rookie mini camps. I was like, oh, that graduation ain't paying you what we paying you get your ass in here. That's I mean, but again, I guess back to the original point is you have so much going on in Baltimore. If they really want to have the type of season that they're, they're probably all expecting to have me. This was a team coming into last season. A lot of people were high on them for being a super bowl contender, including myself. So to come up as short as they did, I would assume everybody's going to be there. And if you're not there, then I would, I would ask the question to you guys, doesn't that expose your commitment level? Like even if you are a guy, like, and I get it guys train where they train, they want to train with their trainers and stuff like I get all that I really do. OBJ is not being there. It's kind of weird, right? That's weird because you're fighting for your career. Like show this team that you want, like I want to be here. I'm going to be here. And there's no reason for you to cut me or anything like that. Cause for what it's worth, you could get a contract and still get cut from the team. I mean, it doesn't, you're not guaranteed you're going to be on that team. Come, come final roster cuts. It's not guaranteed you'll be on that team. Come first, second game pass. Like if they get off to a rocky start, OBJ last, probably one of the first ones they get rid of. So I mean, to me, I think there's just so much at stake for the Ravens. And, and Cincinnati seemed to, to distance themselves from the rest of the teams in the AFC North, you know, I don't feel like the Steelers are going to stay down for long. I don't know when that turnaround comes, but I just don't feel like they're going to stay where they're at for long. So they're going to improve. I mean, you got, you got massage Watts and coming in for a full season this year. I don't know what that's going on. I don't know what that looks like, but you would assume he's coming in for a 120 minute massage that I mean, I don't assume they're going to hours. I'm assuming that they're going to be better. I venture to guess he doesn't make that far the massage. Wow. Yeah, to take the, oh no, that would be the way I would go. No, but it, it just is kind of weird that OBJ in the spot he's at in his career would not be just not there. Yeah, you know, it's kind of odd. That's that. I mean, the first thing that comes to mind and without, and forgive me if for some strange reason, there's a legitimate, valid reason why he's not there. Like let me first preface that. But if I'm just going off of surface level and this could be irresponsible, but it just comes across as divaish. Like it sounds like you're a diva. And that's not what we want to deal with. If you're looking at reemerging and wanting him to be a major part of, of what that, you know, getting back on track looks like because John Harba said when they were asking him about Mark Andrews and OBJ not being there, he said, I don't have any problem with that. You don't worry about it much. But that's what he's saying. Deep down that's got to piss John Harba off. But like we gave him this money. We're trying to put a new offense together. Everybody got paid. Everybody should be here. It probably bothered him that Lamar Jackson wasn't there the first day. Like, so like that, that's why I just look at it and I go, if this is a big year, as you point out, Levar, and this is a transition to a new offense and everything that comes along with it, I would hope everybody would be as invested in this team as we've been invested in that. If you're a head coach, you got to be thinking that as the leader as the ultimate leader of the team, you got to be thinking that as a GM, you got to be thinking that 100%. Well, because we also know a couple of things. Not that John Harba on any way, shape or form was on the hot seat. But with Lamar's contract, he just signed, he sure as heck isn't either. Like they're not moving on from him. Even if he played poorly, he got injured, whatever the case is, at least for three years, the way this contract is structured. Like they are invested into Lamar Jackson for sure for the next three years. Maybe you could say heading into year four. And so if things don't work out over the course of the next couple of seasons, who do you think they're going to blame? They're going to put on John Harba. And so like I can see where he's probably frustrated because in his mind, with everything that's gone on this off season and it's it was to it took such a long, it felt like it took a long time to put together an extension. He's thinking, well, all right, we paid the guy, we gave him what he wanted. Now, you know, now we have certain expectations out of him. And we got a new offense coordinator. We brought in these pieces and then he doesn't show up. And if any if we need anyone to show up to set the standard or be the leader, it's him. So look, we don't know why he didn't show up for the first one. Maybe he was working out with some of the guys in Arizona, right? Maybe there's another legitimate excuse. Like I don't want to make too much of it, but I'm sure it doesn't sit well with ownership. I'm sure it doesn't sit well with, you know, the head coach or the front office after you pay a guy that and you've got certain expectations and, you know, day one and something that's voluntary where he doesn't have to be there, but he should be there. And it's not that that can't be a good feeling. How much can you get done as a quarterback with an offense in this amount of time that you have together in OTAs before you guys take off and you come back for a lot done? I mean, this is so this is what people fail to like not realize everything you're doing right now. All right. And OTAs, that's going to basically be crammed together then once you get your little mini camp that comes in June. And then once the mini camps over and all that, they basically compile OTAs and mini camp from this time of year. And that's your installs for training camp. So it's all just review. Like everything you do in training camps, review of what you did in OTAs and mini camp. So it really is the foundation to the offense you're working on the timing and rhythm to a lot of the past plays and anything where there's going to be drastic change of what you're looking to accomplish, it starts now. And you know, you went through phase one, phase two of the off season where you can't really do that. You're not actually out there practicing. No one's like banging right now, but you know, in phase one, phase two, it's just working out. It's classroom stuff, it's film. You're not actually on the field, able to at the facility, do what you could do in OTAs. Your OTAs is practice. So you actually get the chance to go out there on the field and start working on that, and especially with a new coach, start, you know, working with him about how he envisions seeing this, you know, the offense play out. That's what makes it important because you only get so many opportunities this time of year to do that. And so you're going to always recall that when you get together in August, like, hey, remember when we did this? This is why it's just sort of a rehash to what you did. That's interesting. I didn't know that worked. How about that? By the way, also, can I give a little bit of credit here? And I was going to bring this up yesterday. And I forgot Brady Quinn made the call of all calls, maybe in the history of this show, when he sort of threw this out that John Harbaugh and Brock Purdy look identical. Dude, father son. Unbelievable. Let me see. Okay, if you pull up a picture of Brock. Let me see Brock. I know where Harbaugh looks like. I don't even know that I know where Brock Purdy looks. It's pretty fantastic. And I think Brock Purdy's grown his hair out a little bit as well too. So let me let me be a good one here. We go ahead and efforting. Well, far, what would you say we're doing right now? We're we're all right. Vegging. Yeah, that's pretty good. Oh, wow. It's weird. I'm telling you that. It's odd. You see people who have no relation, but they could be like father, son. Yeah. I mean, that could be like a reality TV show. Maybe that should be a show. You just never know sometimes, man. We all say it like they don't have the next show. You know, airing on Fox. This is one NFL coach finds out he's actually got a son. I'm trying. I'm trying to find out the connections here. And I don't see any that would be that would really stand out his mom's name. Where's the night on Fox? What do you mean? Is that his mom's name? Dada Dada Dada. That's mom. That's pretty. Harba. Purdy. Or is it? Parb. Hard copy with Horrodo. Is it her to your parba? The exclusive. Well, listen, there was that conspiracy theory that was out last year that Jimmy Butler is Michael Jordan's son. Yeah. And now they're putting that out there again. I mean, I mean, how many he's playing. They look, they do look a lot of like, just well, you know, it's probably a chance, right? Yeah. I mean, there is. Right. That's it. He kind of looks more like Mike, Mike, even his own kids. I told you story with my teammates when one of his girls had gotten to fight. And then all of a sudden she came walking to the club with Mike Mike. Oh, no, they'll call them Jay. People don't call they call Mike Mike. Like, there's everyone knows Mike. But when you say Mike, Mike is like, no, no, no, I'm talking about Michael Jordan. And he was like, well, guess that relationships over with. She's with Mike Mike. My buddy told me a story that one of his friends that he like I went to college with or whatever, that he had been dating this girl for quite a while. And they had broken up for a short time. And he found out that during that short time, she started hanging out with Dante Hall while he was in his prime, like the human joystick and in the NFL, returning kicks and all that. It's from Glendor. And I asked him, I was like, so did they end up getting back together? He goes, no, he never even tried. It was like, I'm not even going to go down that road. I don't even want to, like that that ship is sailed. She's on to greener pastures. I don't even want to try whether or not it lasted or not. That's that's pretty. Did you have a revenge tour? Cue revenge tour. Yeah. That's for one to. Yeah. See, you're too good looking. Us ugly dudes. I had a revenge tour when I was a revenge for what? Yeah. Well, you may. What were you? What was the revenge for? For everybody who didn't like me when I was younger. Yeah. Oh, god. The revenge store. We should make t-shirts. Every name checked off the listing. What about the t-shirt? Every name was checked off. Yeah. T-shirts with all the tour dates on the back. State college. No, no, it didn't happen in state college. This is all Pittsburgh. Okay. Now everybody in Pittsburgh knows too. And you know exactly who you are. 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What's happening? What's up, guys? What up? Just hanging out. Now, Al, I got to ask you at these meetings during the course of the week was the Thursday night flexing, the most contentious part of all the votes that were being had or what was your takeaway from there? I actually don't think it was the most contentious. The most contentious was probably over the kickoff rule and all the lobbying that went on there and everything else. But yeah, I mean, the Thursday flex is definitely, you know, a point of contention among some of the owners. And what's so interesting about that one, guys, is if you look at the got teams who voted against it, right? It was 24 to 8, the Giants, the Packers, the Steelers, the Bears, the Lions, the Raiders. It's legacy franchise. It's families that have owned teams forever. And, you know, I think the reality is the NFL is being driven now by, you know, these ownership groups that come from big money and want to operate the league as big business. And, you know, whether it's player safety, the good of the fans, none of that matters as much anymore as continuing to grow the revenue of the game. And, you know, that's sort of Roger Goodell's mandate now. So, you know, where they wouldn't have been able to pass that back in March. Now they're able to pass it. And there are a lot of reasons why they shouldn't do it. But the one reason they should do it, which is to make more money and to play Kate Amazon and to make sure that streaming partners remain engaged is the most important thing. What's the interesting about this one, guys? I know I'm being a little long winded with this answer. But somebody brought up a great point to me about this is that the streaming partners, but we got to keep them happy because they don't need the NFL the way the networks do. You know, ABC and Fox and CBS and NBC, they need live sports. People aren't watching over the air, television the same way they used to be. Amazon, Netflix, you know, Apple TV, they don't need sports that way. And so, you know, the NFL knows that that's where everything's going. And they know they have to keep those specific partners happy. I'll challenge that though, because I think that's, here's the thing is, eventually the streaming will need live sports. Like you can, you can say whatever you want about, you know, cord cutting and where things are going, but we're not there yet. Like there are conferences in college football who thought streaming was going to bail them out. And they thought they were going to get these big rights fees and it wasn't for broadcast partners. They thought it was going to be from streaming partners, the PAC 12 specifically. And it never came. And the reason why it never came is because I personally don't feel like we are there. I know there's other professional leagues like the NWSL, the Women's Professional Soccer League, the MLS, they've gone on that idea. But the reality is that's a fractured subscription that some fans of those teams are going to sign up for. But you're leaving out a large majority of people who now aren't going to watch because they don't want to have to pay to have access to that specific team. Or you know, you know, I'm saying like, I think, I think the idea that the streaming partners are going to come at some point and be the future of the league. I think it's further away than most realize. Yeah, I would agree with that mostly. But the thing is Brady, the NFL has to build towards that. You know what I mean? And we may be 10 or 15 years away from what you're talking about. But eventually the NFL is going to need the streaming partners. They don't need them now, but they're eventually going to need them. And they need them to bid on these now because they want to keep driving the prices up. But eventually they're going to need them, period. And the question is, like you said, is whether or not those streaming partners are going to need live sports the way the networks do now. And I don't know. I mean, you know, the model that the live television model is driven by ad revenue, it's hard to get anybody to watch anything live anymore. And that's because in the age of DBRs and again, streaming and all the different options everybody has, it's just hard to get people to sit down at a certain time and watch TV. And, you know, live sports are one thing that makes people do that. And if they're ever going to be a reason why, you know, your Apple TV or your Netflix, your Amazon are going to need live sports that way. It's possible. It's definitely. Looking at it for the same reasons you're making for the leagues. You're basically saying, well, they the leagues, like obviously they need to continue to keep driving up revenue. That's the NFL wants to do. So do the streaming part platforms. I mean, you're like a Netflix now Netflix. We just talked about this yesterday. Now, if you're somebody who's not a user in the account, you're going to get charts 799 a month if they find out about it. They're adding in ad subscriptions as well. It's all if it shifts all to streaming at some point, that's fine. But it's all going to be a similar revenue model of what cable used to be. It's just now going to be on a streaming platform. You're going to have your subscriptions. You're going to have your ad revenue. You're going to have everything that comes from it. I mean, live sports is always going to exist in some capacity because of live betting. Like that's what's going to drive it, especially as gambling continues to come influenced. Like, I don't want to get off on a tangent on this. It's just, I think if that's what you feel like it is, it's the new money who's now driving the league. Don't you feel like that's a really dangerous thing for the NFL moving forward where they can find themselves almost creating a league that it's the NFL. It's dominating now, but in 20 years from now, could it be overtaken by something else because of some of the decisions they're making right now? Yeah. And I think that's what the and I think that's why you see the feel like that the families that have decades and decades and decades of background in doing this, that's why they're the ones that are tapping the brakes. I absolutely think that that's like a piece of this is those families saying, all right, so like now we're going to take our best teams and put them in multiple short weeks. What does that mean for the actual players, like the star players or those star players going to be in the best position to compete at the highest level when we get to our biggest stage in January and February for the playoffs, right? Like if Patrick Holmes and Travis Calcian and Chris Jones are playing a short week in November and then they get flexed into a short week in December, like what sort of shape are those guys going to be in to be at their very best in January and February? And that's one question. I think the second question is looking at who you're pissing off here. And yeah, it's a small percentage of fans that are the ones that are going to go, you know, on trips with their buddies to games in December, like, and they're the ones that get screwed up. The game gets flexed to Thursday over Thursday, game gets flexed to Sunday or if a Monday game gets flexed to Sunday, they're the ones that get screwed. And the NFL is making the bet that, well, you guys are going to come back anyway, like we have you. So we don't need to worry about that, right? But is there something to that? Like the idea of pissing off your biggest fans, your core fans, right? And if they don't come out to the stadium anymore, well, what does that mean? You know, so, you know, I think the bets were, again, like the families that have had these teams through generations have some wisdom when it comes to this stuff. And I'm with you 100% that there certainly is risk that I think certain NFL owners are ignoring and driving all this. A B, I'm gonna switch gears on you. And I'm gonna ask you about the whole turf situation I do reads and talk about the turf versus natural grass debate. I mean, this is a real thing, right? The conversation of it, the approach of it, where are things at with that? Because there are a lot of different philosophies that are surrounding, you know, artificial turf and why it has become such a major part of professional and even college and even high school playing surfaces. But now the whole idea of going back to natural grass, where are things on that? Yeah, I mean, I think it's something that, well, I mean, for the players, and you guys can speak to this better than me. You know, I, well, I don't know if you would have played on, I played on Astro turf at one point. Yeah, you played, you played on the old set. I was gonna say I played in a vet. I played in three rivers. I played on Astro turf. Yeah, college. Right. Right. But you were played on the new turf to Brady, right? Like, well, when I played a BC, the 10 bucks of a stadium, that was Astro turf. When I played the carrier dome for Syracuse, when Walter Reyes ran for like a bajillion yards against us, that was on Astro turf. I think I trapped door around like the 35 yard line. I don't never forget like stepping on it and being like, huh, sounds hollow. And literally, you could rip up the turf and look and there was like a drop down. Like, I don't know where that went, but it was like the tunnel to nowhere. But yes, we were, we were around long enough to play on the way they created like what they call the grass tip artificial turf. Like, I definitely, in the flubber, like, yeah, I was, we were definitely around for that. The flow. I remember the, well, I remember the, I played on the old turf in high school and I can remember the burns and what that felt like and having to shower the. Oh, man. Yeah. The next day, I was just kidding. It was on fire. Yeah. I got guys, I think like talking to players about this, like, it's, it's the injury risk of course, you know, but it's also how they feel, you know, like, I, I just get the sense like from players who, you know, played on this stuff a lot that there's just a certain soreness and toll it takes in your body day to day beyond just the serious injuries. And no one seems to like playing on it, you know, and I think it's even like, it's interesting to look at a couple of things like how many teams that have field turf on their state in their stadiums? How many of those teams practice on natural grass, right? You think you'd want to practice what you play on what you play on, but yet, like a lot of these teams practice on grass, right? Why is that? Well, because the teams know it takes less of a toll on the players bodies. You know, why are these teams willing to bring in natural grass to accommodate soccer teams? You know, international soccer teams come over here, the world cup will be here one, three years, and, you know, to accommodate the soccer teams, all these NFL teams bring in natural grass because the soccer teams and the soccer leagues demand it. You know, I think we all know what this is about, which is the price point of NFL teams and the price point of NFL stadiums has gotten to a point where you can't justify having one of those stadium all game, eight regular season games and two pre-season games or nine in one every year, right? It just doesn't work. The economics of it don't work anymore. So more and more, all these owners have wanted to pack those stadiums with tons and tons and tons of events. Well, what happens then? Then it becomes harder to maintain a grass field. And so what's the solution? You rip up the, you're up at the grass, put up, put down surf, and put every event under the sun in your stadium. And I think like the two that kind of stick out to me as places that should never have our artificial turf, but now do, are Tennessee and Carolina, right? Like Charlotte and Nashville should have natural grass based on the climate. They're in, you should be able to make that work. And like that, those teams want to, turf tells you everything about where the league is right now. And by the way, there are ways to make it work. Like Green Bay in Northern Wisconsin is able to maintain a grass surface, right? Why is that? Because they don't have an owner who's pocketing the difference, right? Look, look over in Europe, you know, and a lot of teams, now I've talked to Nick Post about this, he's really militant about the grass versus turf things. He's like, well, how come all these European soccer teams can make it work? Playing football, and it's not the same, I understand that. But like, I think if you're willing to invest, you know, in finding solutions, you guys should see what Real Madrid did with their field. There are ways to make it work. But, you know, again, this comes back down to money, comes back down to putting a ton of events in your stadium. And it comes down to the fact that, you know, maintaining a turf field is a whole lot cheaper than maintaining natural grass. Who knew Alber was such a grass expert? Oh, man, that's incredible. I know. I'm I feel like I could have a turf management degree after the last couple of years of the summer. Yeah. What, uh, what the basketball coach, you put that in your pipe and smoking. Yeah. You're doing that with the grass, huh? Albert, we got to ask you, uh, obviously, if anybody follows you on Twitter, they know how passionate you are about the Boston Celtics. I was just curious. Do you feel like at the end of tonight's game with the heat that the Celtics will have won by, I don't know, more than eight and a half points. I'm going to play that game again. Is this the eight and a half point line? No way. That's what I was. Wow. That seems high. I would say if the Celtics will win, it'd probably be like less than eight and a half point. Pretty. Are you a big, uh, you big heat guy now that you're down there? Uh, not, not a big heat guy. I would say that's one of the most more interesting things about being in a, uh, a sports town like Florida, which is a little more transient because you don't have a ton of locals where they like their grow up, you know, and they were like big fans of that team. It is kind of cool when people moved to a place like that, though they kind of adopt it. And it's, it's, it's almost like a melting pot of fans from all over, but I'm definitely rooting for the heat over you, the rest of the Boston fans, also my in-laws. So I'm definitely, it's just really talking trash to my in-laws for the most part. You're in larger big, sell big people. Well, they're from Boston. So they're a big Bruins fan, Celtics fans, Red Sox, all of it. Any time. I'm going to be in thin. Well, that, that don't hate them at all. No, not at all. It's, it's more of just bragging rights, especially for the spring where South Florida's dominated them so far. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That was not, that was not a great showing by the Bruins in the first round. It makes you feel a little bit better. The Panthers, like actually are legit. They've lost like one game. That series, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think it's something like that. The Cats. All right. Well, I'll listen though. We'll be watching. Good stuff as always. Get them on Twitter at Albert Breer. We appreciate it. And we'll do it again next week. Joe Heat. Joe Heat, Albert. It's good. There he is. Two pros, Nick up with Joe here, brought to you by Discover at the end of your first year. Discover credit cards automatically double all the cashback. You've earned, that's right. Everything you've earned doubled. Seriously, see terms and check it out for yourself at discover.com forward slash match. Coming up next a fan base in the world of football got screwed. 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Before we get to this not so fun story for one fan base, want to let you know we are brought to you by Progressive Insurance Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable, get a multi policy discount by combining your motorcycle RV boat, ATV and more. All your protection in one place bundle and save at Progressive.com. So, um, stick city. Yeah, they are. Yeah, they're going to be moving around a little bit. They did that fan base. Because apparently the Penn State and Michigan State game set for this fall in college football, the game has been moved to a neutral site now. It was supposed to be at Michigan State. It's going to be at Ford Field and Detroit on black, black Friday and Saturday. Black Friday. Black Friday. What do you mean? Why you do that? Because that's why it is a what's hit you at the end. You said at the end. Yeah. So, why is it so aggressively like disgusting for you? It's like the way it you set it at the end of it. Black is what made the difference. We are in Sparty on black Friday. Black. I don't like that. Apparently, yeah, the big 10 approached Michigan State about the move. They then spoke with Ford Field, did Michigan State and the Michigan High School Athletic Association who shifted their championship games to later that weekend. So, Michigan State's going to refund tickets and parking to season ticket holders for the original game. And then they're going to sell this as a standalone contest. So, this is another let's present this on TV and in a prime spot. It's going to be on NBC later on that night. So, you've got the NFL with black Friday games. Why are you going so hard? What do you mean? I love throwing this the way you sit at the end. Yeah. You know, I mean, what else do you call the day after Thanksgiving? I mean, I'm just saying you and you call it the day after Thanksgiving. Well, I like most Friday after Thanksgiving. Well, no, sounds good to me. Well, the way this was presented via social media. Was presented to you in what way? Well, I mean, there was just the way they talked about this was, how they say it. Yeah. How do you sit here? Were they like, yo, this is what's happening on Friday. So, from Penn State, okay, from go PSU sports on Twitter. Okay. So, that's out to go PSU. Under the lights in Detroit. Okay. Penn State football at Michigan State. Friday, November 24th, 730 p.m. Ford Field in Detroit. Bam. I did. I didn't hear black Friday in there. Yeah. But that's where I step in and add a little something to it. I'll be critical this real quick with like the 20 seconds we have. Yeah. I hate this though. College football and the atmosphere that's created by home stadium is what makes it so special. You're right. And I love that. It's not our state. It's like whether it's Penn State or Michigan State, this is obviously been in East Lansing. I played in East Lansing. I hate that is a tough place to play. Never won there. Those fans are nasty. I've told you all the mooning story. You know, when they mooned you, they don't just moon you. Yeah. They spread the cheeks. Spread it on. You don't want to see that. Oh, no. You don't want to see that. Yeah. You're a great view. They give you. Yeah. You'll see way too much. Yeah. Like no one should ever, unless you're a proctologist, no one should have to see that. Yeah. Didn't even need a scope. Well, sure. The ass man. Yeah. You shouldn't have to see that. Yeah. But I'm just telling you that that takes away from the traditional college football, the atmosphere. This is NBC's doing too, right? Yeah. NBC's which is a bit surprising because they've gotten Notre Dame home games. They understand how awesome that is. They they're branching into the Big 10. Like they're missing out on a big opportunity for a huge game in East Lansing. I hate that for their Michigan State fans. I hate that for college football. Yeah. That's I love it for us. Because it's very difficult to play in East Lansing. That's true. So there you go. Now you're going to Detroit and we're going to go get a dub. Yeah. You calling it already? Yeah. Calling it. That's the case. We go this year, man. Real good. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app search FSR to listen live.