Fiddler on the Roof (1971)

Hey it's your old pal slim and this is seventy millimeter a podcast for film lovers just like you. Every Monday I chat about recently watch movies with my close friend and artist Danny Haas. I paused the movie and i turned to casey and i said i can't take anymore he sounds exactly like bane and our close friend and movie insider. perlexes uh yes so i was googling earlier how to become a rabbi and this week we have a special guest from doon pod. Jason goldman for some reason i'm on orthodox tiktok a lot like i don't i don't know why i think something's trying to tell me maybe this is the message maybe it's being here with you three that i meant to rediscover my faith every month we have a new theme that guides are featured discussion for that episode and this is a podcast. This month it's the last temptation of seventy mm films focused on the spiritual the religious and the beyond. Jason's pick for the final movie of the month is fiddler on the roof by Norman juson. Is it really the best musical ever made does every other musical pale in comparison find out now. I'm. I'm. We have a guest to close out holy month. And we needed the holy of holies do pods own Jason goldman welcome to the show for the first time ever thank you so much it is a big honor to be here a holy honor i take i take my religious responsibilities to this podcast seriously. Is a sacrosanct obligation to be here tonight with you so thank you goodness chief religious officer of taped up. What seems like it's displacing proto a little bit but it's more spiritual. So you are a co host of a podcast and our little tape deck universe of pods dune pod which. Generally has been described as like jennox dad movie pod as like a combination and i was recently on there for a roller ball episode so. People need to check that out i mean norman juson cinematic universe roller ball which he loved by the way that was a challenging episode for first all is especially challenging for. My co host h because he apparently loves this movie and slim and i were confused about why we had to watch it. It was great it was my mom's favorite episode we've done ever apparently very positive reviews. From mom a goldman i'm going to have a problem you think about rollle ball james con. I haven't seen it but you're blowing my mind telling me that norman juson also got this directed rollle ball i feel like i gotta watch it. We covered his moon struck holy wow what a library films jesus christ superstars the is the fourth. In the quadrilogy of holy films with roller ball. Me struck you need to watch of norman juson james con very christ like in roller ball with his playing in cowboy hat. Yes so when we usually have a guest will go through their four face to try to get an idea of you know what this person is about. We mentioned the gen x dad pod do pod h is previously been on episode is not come back after we tore apart. What was that cross crossing is not cross the high hat after that reaction to that so i look to your four faves letterbox i don't think you update your letterbox very often but. Number one on their movie we have not covered two thousand one a space odyssey i thought it was coming up for you guys this month i thought i thought you were gonna. Trans send into space baby holy territory one slim pick interstellar i couldn't do two thousand one and understood understood i'm glad you picked the movie you did yeah so like two thousand one for me is is one of the most important movies i've ever. Ever seen it was like sort of the first movie i ever saw where i was like oh my gosh there's movies where you don't know what's going on all and they don't like explain to you how the movie works and you have to go. Read stuff and so i love that as like just a little you know know it all nerd. I also say like in general two thousand one being my top four is kind of like a placeholder for kuberkin general who is is really important for me and i love his work and. I love all movies but yeah two thousand one is the one that kind of stands out to me is is being really important in my own movie journey where you stand on a i swadd shot. I love i swadd shot yeah i actually i'm a big eyes white shot apologist cuz i know i know a lot of people. Are it's not their favorite there's a question about the edit. But i've read the book that the screenwriter wrote about eyes wide shot which is amazing because like the screenwriter thinks he's involved in this three dimensional chess game with Stanley Kubrick on like writing this book is like checkmate is Stanley i figured out a way to get you to include this in the movie and it's clear that Stanley is just sucking his brain. Dry and is just gonna take like every good notion and like he doesn't care at all about this guy and so it's great that's really great i love that movie though yeah it's really good there is a doing part episode on two thousand one as. Well as your second pick in your face no country for old men again sort of a stand in for co and brothers as a whole of which i would say is the long stand the kuber the two most important directors for me i love. Not every movie that there's a couple couple of duds but in general i think they're great and no country i think is. A masterpiece is just like it's both it looks amazing it's gripping. I'm it's just brollins phenomenal all the performances are great it's just like a it's and again like it made me want to read the book it's like all of these like all of my movies and top four ones where i felt there was something that would pull me into doing. More with the movie of finding out more about the movie danny what were you stand on the country for all men. I'm never seen it all yeah ones that i haven't seen. A and it's been brought up before. Sub just waiting for the right moment for the pot right moment do you have a favorite co and brothers movie danny i do it's probably. Am i wrong raising Arizona yeah yeah that is probably the only. Yeah that's that's a fantastic movie yeah. Next on your list spirited away mhm. Spirit away i mean again is kind of like a stand in for all the all that work but i would say spirit away from me is like. Was always a movie i loved when my when my wife and i got married it was. A one summer day was like the person like was the first i was like the song she walked on the aisle to nice on. And now that i watch it with my kids all the time because we watch we watch the music he films with the kids a lot. It's really fun because my daughter who's to refers to it is red lights because the poster has like red lanterns on that one watch red lights and she were. She refers to area as as weaves for leaves because it's just got a bunch of keys on it. I'm but they love it the thing that's a little weird about watching with kids is that i thought they would be freaked out because the parents get turned into pigs and that's like a big trauma in the movie. And they just couldn't care last like the fact that the fact that chahiro loses her parents and they get turned into pigs she's the kids are just like yeah that's probably what happened here to. I was keeping moving a big deal. That freaked me out when i saw for the first time spirited yeah i don't know that was freaked me out in general i haven't gone back to it since many years ago i watched it. Can i just say i love this idea of using your your favorite top four as placeholders for your favorite directors i've never heard of anyone doing this this is. Yeah i and this will get to this again i think when we do the ratings because i sort of have a problem with like. Ordinal lists of things that feel like different categories to me like i have a really hard time rating movies because i'm like well that's like a movie for this is this and like top four similar like. I like these things for different reasons so like for me it makes more sense just be like these are the totemic. Styles of movies that matter to me and i'm happy to put them in my in my top four bucket but they stand for a. You know a broader body of films pro to super questioning everything right now i'm taking notes. Last on your list empire strikes back which is like the most conventional gen x dad choice possible i feel like i feel that's gotta be like. Most on brand choice possible i know it's not a place holder for all of george leukis is where. It's true it's not a place holder for all george leukis is work star wars itself is very important to me and again my kids love it's like you know i sort of indoctrinated my son too much into star wars. Now he gets into trouble school for making a lightsaber out anything but like it is sort of like you know to the point of the theme of this month it is our family's religion like when i'm teaching my kid about star wars i feel like i'm telling him bible. I'm just like yes and leuk is the son of anakin. I'm like i'm telling like genealogy explaining this all like and like he has to be a good girl yeah i threw these like very black and white terms like who's the bad guy who's the good guy and like you know i'm like well let me tell you. About the bad guy in the story and so it is like the religion of our family and so even though yeah not everything george leukis touched is my favorite. It is it's still star wars still is a critical factor in our lives in clonwars what's that storyline with the father the son and the daughter. The daughter have you ventured into clonwars Jason i can't remember if you have not yeah i have a little bit but i haven't watched the all of it i have i've only watched like a couple of rebels and so i keep trying to introduce it to Griffin because it's like it's that's what i want to watch it with him for like the first time for both of it. But he's still not quite old enough but yeah so i don't know the whole clone wars there's the other some cool like. Force lore as you deeper into the series i was like we i think several of us have tried to get our friends into clonwars is pretty difficult because there's so many episodes and there's like a lot of three partners. What i watched it that was like while i was working it was on i had like you know i'm kind of focused on the episodes and if they're like super interesting and then when they get cool like all focus on this so it's like a background show i think for most people. Yeah i think i i think i stopped trying to get people to watch yeah never works of ten episodes to watch that matter and then we can go from there that's the freaky thing about it is that like everyone who tries to get you into clonwars. It's like here's this wiki page you need to go to that will tell you the right way to watch it you need to start with season three this arc watch these three episodes reverse. Throw the thrusters in the first thing i think i was wrong. Stop listening to people every time someone like i remember i've been in conversations where people like well actually you need to go to this order the clone wars anytime someone says that you're like whatever dude i don't care anymore like the sounds like a lot of work i'm not. And this is when they're making twenty four episode season so it's it's a daunting task to watch all the clone wars just watch the last four episodes of the fun i mean he's not wrong. So i said i essentially have because they're on constant loop on tiktok like like i've seen i've seen all of those scenes because they just get re they just get cut up and tick them like alright great like i get it i see what happens. Those people fight the last four episodes of the most recent season are are dead are better than some of them i mean they're i'm my opinion better than the recent movie. Yeah the quality of that show bar is a low bar to climb but i do want to point out. The podcast godfather himself is in chat and Matthew of letterbox fame no no didn't he no doon in james top four. True yeah it is true i i and i will say just to be increasingly controversial please i get ready. I actually think that bladerin a twenty forty nine is my favorite denny mover overdue in part one. And so i think i can mausetov. I really can't remember many times in a theater where i felt like i had my face ripped off more than than twenty forty nine and so yeah so maybe i know maybe we're maybe part two is the one that brings us all brings us all home kills our nation. Let's say hello to steven and a i believe join our patreon this week at access to the vh s village discord forty three subscriber only up such as recounted this morning i always forget how many we did. Discounts on denny's prince and our discord had a twin peeks pilot watch along this week yeah. Lot of excitement about twin peeks i think there's also another twilight watch along i can't keep track i feel like there's been thirty twilight watch along is in our discord at various points. Twenty forty nine actually i think that might have been one of the first four k movies i watched on our budget tcl roku tvs range range. Great it's a great demo disc. It's just included with most tvs let's see what do we want to get into i do want to hear from proto just reminder i said at the top of the show that no one heard live but fiddler on the roof is our featured presentation that's later in the show. Use the chapters to skip ahead to that discussion if you want to skip through all this good stuff. I'm because i want to hear about one man from proto. No and that man. Is so vester still on. You watched a movie today with sly in it. Was it i did i watched i'd never seen this flick cliffhanger. One ninety ninety three. Stars Sylvester still on facing off with. A very popular villain john with gal. Mm hmm you know the one Sylvester he plays a i guess i wasn't paying enough attention like a park ranger. I don't know like a mountain climber rescue or he rescues me to get stuck on mountains or something yeah people get stuck on a mountain and they're like just holds tight for eight hours within the. Show vester he's like the the the the cliffs that this guy is is climbing with no. You know what a safety cables. Is incredible there's some like really great shots in this. But it turns into a heist movie actually i mean this is an obvious homage from Christopher Nolan in the dark night rises. Hi jack in an airplane another lift. Yeah another lift from a mold press there. I'm. But yeah this movie i had i had a great time watching this it was really fun sylvester his body almost fantastic. I was also pleasantly surprised to see Michael Rooker in this. I'm and i didn't know he had a career back in nineteen ninety three. Michael Rooker wasn't really on my radar. A pre guardians of the galaxy you thought that was his first acting role yeah i was like who is this up and coming act or here. Mr whistle yes it was great to see him and then i was like you know what how can i how can i watch more Michael Rooker so i'm looking at his filmography. And our early movie that he did rent a cop. From nineteen eighty seven. Yes starring Bert Reynolds in lies and many. Yes amazing. The movie is made out of pure cocaine. Unfortunately Michael Rooker he's only in it for about five minutes at the beginning. But then i you know i kept watching cuz i was already here might as well finish it not not really a good movie rent a cop but it was worth it to continue my Michael Rooker. This sounds like an auto play on to be like i can believe that you followed up cliffhanger with this random picture i thought for sure just started playing and you just let it happen after this this is what it takes to be a movie insider you have to do things like. There was a recent demolition man episode on doon pot with her close personal friend Mikey P. Yes the art for the movie mix a podcast is executive producer there. So i'll say there's some scandalous thing said about sly. Is acting ability and believe it there because we're moving forward as a family on this podcast we're healing. We've never stopped healing since episode number one seven we've always been healing. Yeah i think things that don't heal i think are called abscesses after a while i have to be the last again. But Mikey P does a great slide imitation by the way if you want to check that out it's worth anything Mikey P doesn't do great that's the question so handsome very handsome it pisses me off. Yeah i was looking at danny's letterbox diary not a lot going on but looks like i feel like you're getting nervous for indie you watch when you watch raiders i watch raiders. No non preparation i guess sorta i guess it's time to rewatch him before five comes out i needed i needed. You know comfort movie this weekend while i was watching so put on the 4k of. Raiders still gorgeous and then today i watch the documentary of. I'm fiddler and the journey it took to get be made into a movie and was a fantastic documentary on this movie. I really wish most movies got this treatment of documentary and as a more whatever you want to call it it was great it was a fantastic doc. A lot of interview with john Williams was that was pretty cool. A lot of norm and talking about the process of creating the movie and. The three daughters were still alive and they're interviewed fantastic just fantastic documentary. About this movie remember the greatest documentary ever filmed the director in the jedi director in the jedi jim and Andy. A lot of the i forgot we did that movie. What was like two years ago the hell was the month theme for that. What was it like i roll. Movies about movies thank you are early you said we did moon struck and i have no. Three star was pronto's rating on the struck anyone verify it was the sounds like a three star. The three star hazy memories fantastic. Let's see every week i tried to remember to give out a free your letterbox pro gets rid of ads you can see some fancy stats on your movie watching history. This was from mr glass. So do you have a thought john will was a young buck when he made a better tomorrow turns out he's been making movies since the early 70s could we get a martial arts month. Or at least a last hurrah for chivalry app when we're gonna do a martial arts month. What's the question. How long is filling filling up i know we've already what was all the whole year up at this point. We have been planning hard we have to get into next month theme at the end of the show hundred comments on a patreon post asking for one hundred comments. Uh ninety eight but running up rounding up i mean you saw bo was a for i was gonna ask i was gonna ask about that please this is a brand new rya. The king yeah himself boy. Yeah our former producer on the show Ian has probably three thousand dollars worth of mid some are memorabilia in his hand. Hereditary one of my favorite horror movies so i was like kind of nervous going to see this movie i saw it in i max. King of Prussia pia packed house. And walking phoenix it's like i don't know it was supposed to be like a comedy area after doing comedy dark comedy. I thought it was hilarious like every oster area after our rya star wait so i can pronounce his name double a. He's really funny he's a great writer there's so many funny moments in this movie it's like a weird subversive dark comedy. But it's three hours long so it's not just like all comedy dress into like weird dark drama for a lot of the time. The plot is essentially what he needs to go to his mother's house. And him being so anxiety ridden he just like gets mixed up into high jinks along the way. It is kind of long and the the last act kind of lost me a little bit like there three quarters the way to the movie i was like man is this a four and a half star movie. You know that's what i was like i would love this movie and then like other things happen in it that kind of like take me out of it a little bit. But it's a big swing like there is like memes on twitter about. Like bro film critics saying it was like a career killer movie yeah like that's how rattling the ending is for certain people i went to that they're just like so turned off to the whole experience. And i can understand that based on the kind of journey and the ending itself but i mean it's a big swing and when you look at his three movies they're all like. Kind of big swings really so i appreciate what he went for three and a half stars. I mean there is like tweets about people like yelling out at the end of the movie like no one clap this is garbage clap you are the devil for liking this like yeah there's like there's real like out crying and anger about people and like other people saying like. My mind is never going to be the same like it was there's a lot of really outrageous things said about it yeah that's what slim did when she said race guy Walker. It was better when she was a no one okay. Whatever the hell that last movies called rise of skywalker will nobody clap. JJ Abrams career killer of the movie. The guy Walker. I mean the ending i don't like want to really say much about it but like i can see. Normies and like the other people getting like upset at the way the movie ended like also someone in chat said big swing month which sounds like a little ideas that is a good big swing month. 101 options for movie months now. We need more months in the year at this point we went from not knowing what to do for me to being almost completely booked for book for 20 years. That's great that's like june pod. We got some schedule like the return of hailey's comment. There was something else so my review i wrote my like little jokey review was that i had something for dinner. That like made my stomach just go completely nuts turn the movie and it's one of the quietest movies i've ever seen so i'm like sitting between two people i'm surrounded by people and. Just imagine your stomach making the loudest noise imaginable for maybe seven seconds. In total silence in a movie theater but i'm talking like every five minutes. You're starting to like what am i gonna do here like this is a three hour movie like i gotta figure this out. And i didn't want to like leave like what am i gonna miss like it's gonna turn into me missing some giant plot hole i don't know. So anyway just everyone be careful mixing hot sauce and meatless nuggets recipe for disaster. All right let's get into our main course fiddler on the roof this was Jason's pick to close out the mopo one of Jason's options for disclosure and this is what we settled on get into that later. Pardo what is this movie about on a tevka on the tevka. A poor milkman named tevya lives in a Russian stettle with his wife and five daughters. Cital, Mittle, Kittle, Rital and Coidal. He carves out a life of meager resources but rich in tradition. The world around him is changing and he must adapt while holding true to who he is and where he came from but one by one his eldest three daughters fall in love and seek to marry not in traditional ways but in new radical ways. And on top of this rumors begin to spread that they will be expelled from their dear on a tevka by the Russians. What's a man to do when life is as precarious as a fiddler on the roof. What a pick to close out the holiest of holy months with Jason from Dunepod. Were you sweating the pick? I was I was nervous about the pick for sure I used chat GPT to generate a list. I did I was like I've got a I've got a call upon robots to help figure out what we could watch here. And I was really paying attention to what other movies were picked because I wanted to make sure there was good coverage of both you know traditional faiths as well as spiritual films in a non religious mode. But in the end like I felt like you know being Jewish myself there was a good opportunity to cover this movie fiddler which is like the Jewish experience movie. And as particularly particularly relevant and particularly kind of beloved by American Jews. Yeah so I was excited I was excited to do it with do it with you all felt like it was an important thing to go Old Testament. Yeah I had never watched this movie before I'd heard of this movie I think I confused the name of it with cat on a hot tin roof. What I like mentally combine the movies into one. Prado had you seen this movie growing up what were you hearing about this movie was this ever kind of like in your sphere of films. I just remember people making jokes and references to this movie and seeing you know people do. Tevya's dance during the rich man song and like people cracking up and I like I had never even seen the dance before so I had no reference and then I always thought whenever someone was doing that song they didn't know the rest of the words. So then to actually hear the song and like those there is no other words. It was pretty funny but yeah I had never seen this but I had friends who had seen it and it just never kind of happened for me. I will say I think one of my first memories of something fiddler on the roof related is a deleted scene from Spider-Man 2 where Alfred Molina as Doc Ock sings if I were rich man with the tentacles. I realized that as I was watching the movie I was like oh that's where it's from. What about you? No never seen it and I didn't realize I knew the songs though so when the matchmaker song came on I was like oh that's where this is from. I don't know why I knew it actually. That's about it. One of my daughters brought in the Gwen Stefani if I was a rich girl and she was saying that. I didn't realize that was a knockoff of this very Chris for Nolan Eske of her to make that song. But no I had never seen this or the stage play. I think that was an intention as well with the pick was that I love musical theatre and love musicals. I love film musicals too and yeah so and I don't think we've really done. I don't think we've done one on Dune Pod. There's not many. Someone needs to do a sci-fi musical. I was thinking the same thing while I was watching this actually. Yeah. Someone needs to do. We've actually again have used chat GPT to write a Dune musical to like write up like come up with the songs and like to come up with lyrics to the songs. So you know any Broadway producers out there hit me up. We can get this musical up and running. Alright let's go. So Jason was this like what was the time frame when you first saw this movie growing up? I never I can never remember a time in which I've not known this movie. Like it was it was it's like one of those where it's like I you know similar to like Empire Strikes Back. Like I don't remember the first time I've seen it. I've always known this movie. I've always known all the songs. We had the record on vinyl and watched it regularly both like at home and you know my family is big fans of musical theater and we watched it in Hebrew school and Sunday school. It was like sort of you know a substitute for religious instruction. I was just like yeah we're just gonna watch this we're gonna throw this on. You get the idea of what you're supposed to be learning you know Jews Russia. It's like yeah this is like counts for Sunday. And yeah so like I've seen it a bunch but I haven't seen it in probably 20 plus years. Like I haven't seen it a long time. So I was excited to revisit for this app. The other scene that I was thinking of when I was watching it for the first time that I was like oh that's where this is from is when they first show the rabbi and everyone is like asking the rabbi questions. The Simpsons did that scene with Rabbi Krustowski Krusty's dad and they're all asking him questions and I was like oh my god that the Simpsons did this scene. Yeah I know. There's so many Simpson homages that like I realize years later that I never knew we're like oh that's where that's from. My life in a nutshell. Okay so we'll go around the room each host has you know two to three main things they want to bring up since that's what the format of this discussion is so we'll kick it off with Jason what's the number one thing that you wanted to bring up. I was kind of amazed in this viewing how good I thought Topo was as Tevia like I was really blown away by his performance which is kind of wild because it's this iconic movie performance he's obviously Tevia from Fiddler on the Roof like he beat he was a stage you know performer in this role before. He got the movie part he performed this part for the rest of his life basically right but his voice is so good like his like this bear this bearage on this rich voice is just so great and his face is like so watchable that I was just like amazed at how good he seemed how electric his performance is like he's a very particular accent that I found like super compelling as well because the vowels like always were really surprising in how he talked like there's parts of how he talks that sound a bit like a delco accent to me like you know that like where he's like you know is laser wolf at home like he's got this like kind of like like you know in there as well and so there's like I was just like blown away by his performance in this in this movie watching it this time. Yeah I'd never his voice was so bizarre to me because it at times it felt like where do I know this voice from this feels like such a familiar voice is he a voice actor right or does someone else just sound like his cadence of voices Hannah Hannah and Jeff here we go. Well it'll lead into another point I just I mean I'm agreeing with you on his performance at a certain point his voice did click with me and it sounded like Bane from Dark Knight rises right like did you hear the movie and I turned to Casey and I said I can't take it anymore he sounds exactly like Bane. It was driving me nuts I could take it it was unreal like the whole movie though I never lost Tom Hardy's Bane. Oh it was only like certain parts where he really like late into whenever he like rags like like what the bomb is mobile gold that we don't rest on the set. That was born in it that does bring up that Tom Hardy also has like one of my favorite performances as a Jew right Picky blinders in Picky blinders and like a ball and is relevant for fiddler because there's the scene where he meets up with the Zaris who've escaped from Russia and like they're trying to sell him jewelry and there's this great scene where he's like is like you people mean mom with dogs like and I just absolutely love that. Yeah it's so great so yeah I like it Tom Hardy. That was a good impression Jason. Yeah Prudel what did you think of his role in this movie. Two things I loved his hair was just incredible. I all when I was looking at it was like could I cut if I could cut my hair I would cut my hair to his length. Oh if I had the texture but his hair has so much texture I just could never I could never pull off what he has it's like it's not like strands of hair it's like it's like like leaves of hair that are like holding on top of each other just incredible it doesn't look real. Maybe it was a wig. I didn't say but then I also loved he has incredible comedic timing in this. He is so funny and of course like the dialogue the writing in it is great but he just sells it so well and it makes it that much better. I didn't realize how funny this movie really was like it for in the beginning at least when he's breaking the fourth wall or when he's like taking up like his problems with God and it's just it's really funny. And he does perform it quite well. Funny scene to when like at the wedding where he says that he's going to dance with his wife and he like turns to the camera but like looks up at God like right before he turns that was funny the clapping moment in that scene is funny. Right off the bat with him like the first scene that the movie kicks out on is you know he's like breaking the fourth wall and I was like thinking myself like I got a play with a break in the fourth wall I feel like that's like 90% of plays I'm just making that up and probably very wrong. But I feel like it's like a cliche thing but it eventually. Like it were it if I was like wrong like this is the right way to do this storyline where he's kind of like talking to you because he hasn't have anyone else to play off of unless it's like God in that moment. So it definitely worked for me. Age is producing from the chat. And with with like to would like to bring up that it was recently reported that Topol in real life was a a massage agent while he was living in London with like go around and like bug embassies like a hot because he was like an international star so you can go anywhere. And they were just like yeah can you just like drop this mic off at this place sure no problem. And now that he's just a bad thing. I mean you know it's kind of awesome. Yeah. It sounds like a movie that bad ass like it's going to write and direct and start it probably at some point down the line. Danny what's the first thing you want to bring up the first thing I want to bring up is I was a little bit blown away how every actor in this film was really good at their role even down to just like the town's person or the other person. Or the guy reading the newspaper as it comes in there was something about how every performance felt genuine and they all felt like they loved what they were doing. The daughters are amazing. The wife is amazing. The matchmakers amazing. There's everything is so. I don't even though the word is but they're just. They were just great and they. Not like caricatures but they were really. Really expressive and there's just so much about every performance that I loved. Laser wolf is amazing. Just each actor in this film just felt like. They were in it for the long haul and they loved being a part of what they were in and even if they were just the bit role that was just getting milk from him at the market or whatever before the Sabbath. Everyone just felt kind of like in love with what they were doing in this film and it really like shown through to their performance. It felt very play like in that way. It's almost like this actor has done this a thousand times and they have it down. They could do it in their sleep and that's the way it came off on screen. It was like every character had their own bit that they did. Even the guy who would get the newspaper and it's like he takes forever to read the news. Come on just get to the point of it. And then we mentioned earlier like the. The rabbi just like that dude's face because I like it's always like leaning up and then his eyes look like they're always closed and he's smiling just like his whole presence and his perspective on everything. It was like that like you said with every character. It's interesting though because like it's musical theater so the characters are going to be caricatured and like exaggerated so that you could like quickly identify the part that they're doing. They identify the part that they're playing in the musical but the style of the movie is so naturalistic like there's so much like natural lighting like all of these like even the set interiors like look like they could be real spaces. That like it's it's and you know the care there's not a lot of makeup even though the hair is like obviously there's a lot of hair in this movie. It's just this weird juxtaposition of like this exaggerated musical theater style of movie but also being shot on these like grand vistas in like Croatia wherever they you know subbing in for subbing in for Russia. That makes us love you. Yeah you just love you that makes it feel like this place that this this real place so I found that like kind of tension interesting as well. Mm hmm. Prado what's the first thing you want to bring up? Let's talk about the 10 minute opener to this movie which I love so it starts with the first tune is tradition which man I love it. I think and of course like tradition kind of it comes up throughout the whole picture so it returns but that's my favorite song. It's just it's so it's so I'm not supposed to say powerful but I feel I feel like that is it just like it evokes so much about everything that this movie is trying to convey and just like the you know the spine of the story. But that scene that first 10 minutes as it goes through the town and you see all the different characters and you know them living their life in the village and how it sets everything up it really reminded me of almost like the 10 commandments of just like I don't know I don't even really know how to describe it because it doesn't the scope of the 10 commandments or like these giant crowds but it's almost like the color and just like Jason was saying just like almost like the natural look and feel to everything but also it's a musical at the same time and then for like those 10 minutes and then the credits come up on the screen with the fit there on the roof. I'm just like blown away by that I was like sitting up in my chair I was like all right this is here we go I'm ready now. This is no cliffhanger. The tradition thing is like the it's interesting like and we'll get into this as we go along but this movie kind of like sent me into like a religious journey of discovery which is like very strange for me at 46 because like you know I wasn't raised particular religious I was bar mitzvah but like I live as I've lived a secular life I don't go to services I don't keep kosher and I was like watching this and then like the point of tradition is like that is the essence of Judaism is to follow these strictures not because they gain you a place in heaven or a place in the afterlife because it was God commanded and there's all these commands about how you live every aspect of your life and you're meant to do it because the Jews were chosen to follow these specific commandments and I was watching this and I was like you know can this what is the can this religion exist with this adherence to these creeds and this tradition outside of a context like this you know secluded community that's this insular community that completely supports one of the can like these traditions exist like outside of like an environment like this or you know Crown Heights Brooklyn or places where people like really like kind of keep all the rules and like and I realized like as I was thinking about that was like oh like this is what it means to engage with like the project of Judaism is to ask like how do I make this relevant in my life and like this is what Jews have done for millennia is like try to figure out how to adapt because they've always been in different places and so it was like this really weird moment where I was like trying to like figure out the my place or my connection to it at a religious level which I was not expecting to happen in this viewing of the movie. Did we just save Judaism together before was it a so Jason was it a big deal for the end of this movie when I'm not the I guess at the end when I'm so all three daughters have basically kind of done their own thing in their own marriage but when he says God be with you to his daughter had it was dead to him is that is that like a huge deal like a yeah huge deal yeah because like the dead to you dead to me thing is real like that happens when you like when people like leave orthodox communities or like break with tradition that it's like it's not like they've just gone away like they're they've died. But to this day that's that's that's a thing yeah in ultra orthodox communities that's the thing there's this there's a Netflix show I want to say called Orthodox that was out that came out a couple years ago about a woman who leaves it. It's phenomenal I'm in a bowl I wept like I have never cried in my life at the end of that movie yeah or the end of that show and like so yes like for him to bless her. At the end is this huge concession is it a no is it a bad is it like blasphemous to say God be with you or to for a daughter that was dead to him for him to come back and yeah it would it would just like never happen right okay so that would just never happen yeah oh interesting. What a great moment yeah was first thing I want to bring up the bottle dance scene from the wedding is that. Is that the first usage of CGI in film history this must have been like avatar to in 1971 seeing this dance. They have the bottles on their heads doing this dance the four guys I couldn't believe what I was seeing are you telling us fake. We all can do that slim all the Jews can do that. Is that what you get is that a power you get following the commandments like am I converting to Judaism you get so that I can do that dance you get it. At the end of the edition edition the producers guild of America and you can do that. The two things the wedding the wedding scene is nuts I love the wedding in in totality like the one guy that was teaching the daughters you know. That has the hot for the one daughter he essentially like breaks the rope like because it's very separated like only the men are dancing that was just one note that I wrote like. Help is our is it that just the men are dancing in this like community is just sounds it's so strange still true still true orthodox communities. Yeah if you if you see you get left for some reason I'm on orthodox tick tock. I don't know why I think something is trying to tell me maybe this is the message maybe it's being here with you three that I meant to rediscover my faith. But like the in orthodox weddings to this day it is still segregated by gender my god as our religious service literally like my my mom growing up my my grandfather was orthodox. My brother my my great uncles orthodox rabbi and so growing up like they were definitely segregated at shul they wouldn't sit on the same side the women had to be behind the screen all this stuff it's like very gender divided. Yeah the the idea that they were like separated and he he pulls the rope down and and asked to dance with her at the wedding and everyone's like oh my god what dance with a girl. And then like that scene where he dances with his wife and then I just call that one dude millhouse he look like a real life no house Manhattan the same stir. He's he read just like immediately does what Tavia did you like claps you know and put the hand out of that was adorable and then the rabbi they asked the rabbi like is it safe like can is this a sin for us to dance. I love that scene his reaction to that and then you know they're dancing he doesn't realize that he's dancing with a woman and then he like pulls out his like you know what was that like a handkerchief so they touch but they can still dance. It was a beautiful scene I love that scene. Jason next on your list. Well you mentioned perchic the teacher hot for teacher. Character in this who comes to teach the students and this was like a real surprise in the movie so like the movie is a cold war movie right. Like this is like in the height of the red scare like not long after you know with like an in recent memory of the Cuban Missile Crisis and things like that right. Vietnam and all that right. And yet perchic is very clearly a communist like is very clearly like you know the rich are here to oppress us all we must have solidarity with the workers and the students and I'm going to give a speech in the town square with a big red flag. And I was like okay like perchic is just out here as a commie how did that go down like it was I was really surprised about like that overt coding for this time because he's obviously and it's like his whole story is meant to be sympathetic and he's sent to Siberia by the Zaris because they're not super down with the communist revolution doesn't work out for them. And it's just like a really it was I found that really interesting the historical context of that and him being in there in that role and I like the guy who played him too I thought he was good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah his character was his like introduction you know he's like telling them about they're reading the paper about how they're not doing anything in their small community and then he gets invited to the house to become a teacher just like at the snap of a finger. Yeah it's a house to live in what was it during this I guess he said he's only there for during the Sabbath. But yeah yeah I love his introduction to the family. I love that too when he gets invited over he gets it so it's Sabbath I love the Sabbath scene I think it's beautiful. And he gets invited over as does model comms oil to get invited over and like and Millhouse comes oil and like and he and like and Tavia is just like you know we got more people here for a time. We got more people here for dinner and gold is just like oh more blessings. Like they're like I just thought that was like I just think that's like one of the things it's like funny to me in the movie is just like it's this constant like wobagon status of everyone's like yeah more of this. Yeah. I love I love a Tavia's line whenever he's getting bad news from somebody's like and why do I like what's the reason for this honor where it's like really not an honor it's like oh I have to leave my home. And my family my family has to uproot from this our entire lives. Why do we have this honor and like yeah just his whole of like oh here comes another hit I guess this is just my life. Yeah. Danny. Let's see I was in love with the production design of this film I thought it was a really gorgeous movie and I don't know we watched it on Voodoo or we watching a 4K. I don't know it just looked incredible I couldn't get over the setting and I looked up production designer of this. Robert Boyle he did he worked with Hitchcock a lot he did the birds and then he did he's most notably known for North by Northwest and that makes sense. He had to create Mount Rushmore on a film set for Hitchcock. So yeah then I'm thinking oh yeah this this is why every scene of the city looks amazing. He's interviewed in the documentary a lot talking about how they had to like do some things and he was talking about how he just stretched some ladies pantyhose over the lens of the Panasonic camera just to give it a hazy look and norm would freak out about it. It was just it was amazing just to see the set being built and what they did with it. The train station scene is amazing it's gorgeous. I just there's a visually I was really struck by this movie I was surprised in how much I loved how everything looked the barn scene the dance and that's the with with Tavia and that is amazing as well. It's just I think it's a gorgeous movie there's all those shots where he like when he when Tavia is contemplating whether or not to let one of his kids go. It goes it he's like talking right next to him but then when he says like on one hand on the other hand right cuts it cuts where he's like now very far away and looking back at them and you see this like long shot of the visit behind them. And it's like just so striking because it's a style we just never you don't see that anymore like no one. A dome yeah yeah they would be doming you could love you. This will be a dome. I got Mitchell from the weekend watch list podcast letterbox commented on my review you got to talk about how Norman Jewison was hired to direct this because the you a execs mistakenly assumed he was Jewish. True yeah as he talks about the documentary. Oh my god he even said it again when he was given the honorary award. He came on stage I can't believe they're giving us to a I don't know what he said about himself boy yeah a go yeah yeah it's it's I mean it is confusing and fairness like it's like. Yeah. He was explaining how is his last name stands for son of a Jew. If my name was like Christian Goldman like you would have like some questions. Pero of snacks on your list. I love the dynamic between Tevia and his wife Golda. There's so many great scenes with them I think my favorite bit that they have though is that when Tevia one of his daughters comes to him and you know says I'm marrying this guy. There's nothing you can do about it. Tevia comes to terms with it but then he's like oh I have to go home until golda you know what am I going to do and the first one is just so funny how he he he decides that he'll he'll wake up as if he woke up from a nightmare. And then he describes this nightmare where he sees gold is grandmother telling him you know and they do this whole dream sequence that is amazing. Really amazing and reminded it felt like a Tim Burton scene. Yeah. Yeah that was just so fun and unexpected in the middle of this movie. It was like the haunted mansion. It's like Jewish. They need to build this. Is there like a Jewish theme park we can visit to ride this dream. Yeah. Yes there is. Yes. We will go there the chosen theme park. They just closed down the Holy Land here in Orlando. Yeah that scene was awesome and you mentioned one of the songs but when he goes to talk to his wife and he's like sings the do you love me song. Yeah. Oh my god. What a great what a great song. Do you love. Also her reaction to him asking the question with the person he's like what. That song is like a weird magic trick of a love song because it's so like a really cool song. So like kind of jaundice eyes like the point of the song is like that they haven't actually thought about whether or not they love one another despite being married for 25 years and she's just like what do you mean like you know but in bed with you like smelling you for all this time you're asking me now like what is even the point of talking about this but you know it ends up in this like really sweet tender place like it's very hard. I think to do both of those like modes at the same time. Yeah the that that song and like all of his like conversations. I think we're some of my favorite moments because his he finds a match for his daughter. And then she says that I'm actually I don't want to be matched and you can like in my head I was like I was going to be the plot of the whole movie him. Kind of come into grips with this and then changing his mind at the end. He changes his mind almost like immediately and then she's like well actually I'm already in love with someone. And then he is okay with that after some thought and that happens several times in the movie which shocked me because usually like I guess in like a modern plot just that one instance could be the plot of the movie where he's going to have to get over it in two hours and then change his mind but I loved how he was confronted with something that. You know really changed the course of their kind of like historical aspects of the town and he's like all right. Okay. Let's you're in love or the power of love etc etc like I'm okay with this. Of course it was like harder for him later with the Russia Orthodox boy but I thought those were pretty cool moments. He had got Harkonin. Jason what's your third point for Fitler. You know my third point. I was like really surprised how emotional I got watching this movie I do not like you know nothing wrong with crying a lot during movies but when H and I talk about movies like he cries a lot and I'm always surprised at like sort of. He was like oh you cried during roller ball it's amazing. I mean obviously demolition and very the three season obviously very emotional solving. But I was really surprised at how like at like how emotional is made me and I was thinking about it afterwards and you know we all know like you know that like representation matters in film that's obviously a big concept and like I sort of know that to be true but never really thought about it for myself until watching like this movie and. They watch this movie now and like you know this is a story in this movie like you know a tailor they end up going to America they get kicked out of the show they get go to America and you know we don't know what happens but like that's the that's the end of the movie. And and like you know that's the story of my family like you know like my great grandmother like was kicked out of a shuttle. In what is now pulling but was Russia by the by the car and like she had to you know traverse all of Russia. To take to get to Japan and take a boat from Japan to San Francisco and then move from San Francisco to St. Louis in 1914 like so you know like and just the end she was like 15 like when she did this and so like the idea of like going on that kind of journey when they're like pushing the cart out in the snow. And you know it's just like and like you know to now be living in San Francisco and like you know it's just like. You know it's a it's that notion of like oh like we made it like it worked out like you're good work like getting out like you made it somehow you made it like and you know I have you know like your. You know my my daughter her grandmother's grandmother like was kicked out of a shuttle like 120 years ago just a very strange thing to like be confronted with through film and I found it more emotional I was surprised that I was expecting. I was thinking that journey like my grandparents came over from Poland and I have like they're one of their travel like suitcases like still in our house. And this is what this is like essentially what my third point was going to be but like the idea of leaving where they live and going to America. I would die like there how do you even make the plan to go to America what do you know about America I'm going to live in America how. You know you go what is America is it how do you even begin the journey and the idea of like being a boat for that long it's like mind boggling to me that anyone immigrated to our country at any point in time. Like this all comes back to the friggin iPhone if I have to travel one hour without a phone. I mean people are going across continents. This happened this happened to me yesterday I flew back from Chicago yesterday and the charger I busted the charger on my for my phone in the uber to the airport and I was like this is a catastrophe the life of which man has never. I must survive this for our flight in business class. From Chicago to San Francisco and my phone is on 10%. Your grandma flashing in front of your eyes. Oh my god. Danny what's your number three. Number three would be the music in this film I think John Williams arrangement of the the score is incredible. I think some of the songs are really powerful but for me the one that hit I mean I the train station. The train station song far from the home I love was impactful but the song sunrise sunset at the wedding I think kind of struck me like really hard with the lines. I don't remember growing older when did they. I'm like oh my god I've thought about that recently because I don't feel older but I've come to grips with the fact that I have a 15 year old daughter and it's so it's like when did when did she become 15 and I'm not thinking about this when I'm watching this marriage scene I'm like oh my god I'm going to die soon. I was just like I'm going to get married but you jumped to the you die immediately. It was such a oh god those lines like that's such a beautiful song too but it hit me I'm like oh gosh I'm getting old. Yeah I thought about my kids too for sure. Yeah it's wild how fast things happen. It was such a well written song too. Yeah music is very good I mean that when we were reading the reviews last week people were comparing this to like the West Side stories of the of the time and how it was like you know more memorable than those songs and I like guffawed but as soon as like the third or fourth song came on I was like oh yeah I have heard this song before. You know it's I've heard almost all of these songs but it's just kind of like a foggy memory of where I would have heard this song before and why and it's there from this movie so it's pretty crazy. Prado final point. I really love the scene where their third daughter has run away and married the Russian and gold she she goes to the church to talk to the priest. And you know because this whole movie you're just seeing their village you're seeing their traditions you see them they have a great Sabbath scene where she's in front of the candles performing some kind of magic trick which is very cool. And so like everything around that even like the rabbi in like their temple there and just everything about it just felt so integrated to their lives. And then growing up Christian and kind of knowing the Old Testament very well and like them referencing these scriptures to see her then go into this church building that came out of their faith and just even trying to imagine that of them living their lives there's like this whole other religion that is you know around them that is referencing them and her going in and just the way like the way the church looked and felt and felt so austere and cold and even the way they talked to her and she just felt so like natural and just like a person living her life it was just like I hadn't seen like a depiction so well I guess of you know the Jewish tradition and then just compare to you know Christian religion and the organization that that is I just found that like really compelling the seaside by side. There's two things I would say I call about that I love that whole note that the idea of an Orthodox Jew and I don't know about this particular like their traditions but in modern ultra Orthodox. A Jew would never go into a church because there's idolatry inside the church there's images of there's images of saints and they specifically like show that like you know as she goes in and they show that there's you know images divine images and that's not that's not something you're loud and it's just generally also like this is someone else's space we're not gonna go in there so they would not like so it's this huge concession for her to go into that space like meant to show like how you know how much she's trying to like do you know get figure out what's going on with her daughter and and how concerned she is and the other thing which I liked is in the Sabbath ceremony where she's doing the thing with the candles that's the women like the Sabbath candles and they they do that gesturing over them to kind of welcome in the Sabbath but there's also this thing where which I really like which is they close their eyes because on Sabbath you're not allowed to start fires like you're not allowed to do any work in fires count as work on on Shabbat and so you can't that means in in a modern context you can't turn on lights either right. And so with the point of the closing the eyes is that the candles have been lit and you're closing your eyes is like a demarcation between this time in which it was a it was permissible to light candles and turn things on and now you're in the sap now the Sabbath has begun and that's no longer permits so it's just like conscious like sort of drawing a line across like these two different like between normal time and holy time so it's meant to feel like this transition into a holy space and I think the song did that so well like capturing it. You have to keep your eyes closed for the next 24 hours you can't you can't look with it this is the thing about like we're saying earlier about Jewish traditions like as like there's a lot of hacks about like adapting them to modern context. So like so like so you're not allowed to turn on lights you're not allowed to like do things with electricity so there's a bunch of things that happen like electric the notion of electricity obviously doesn't exist in the Talmud like but it's been inferred by rabbis electricity counts of starting a fire which even from a physics perspective is invalid but that's the rule and so anyway but what they so there's a thing called like a Shabbat light and what it is is it's a land it's a light that's turned on and you leave it on and the way in which you turn you turn it off on is to slide a shade up or down on it so it's like there's a blackout shade around the light and you slide it down when you want to be dark and then you lift it up because you're allowed to lift the shade up or down you're just not allowed to turn the light off or on and like similarly like refrigerators have refrigerators have Shabbat settings so that like you can have it program to go on. So that when you open the door the light doesn't turn on because if you open the door and light turn on you've now turned on a light and that's against your body so it's like there's all these there's there's tons of stuff like that there's tons of. Yeah. More tick tock Jewish hacks yeah pop up yeah in the explore tab. Whose turn was that sorry I got sorry mine all right so mine I think we already kind of said mine which was the traveling aspect so we'll jump to Jason final thoughts and I know you don't usually like letterbox ratings but what would be your letterbox rating. I'm more than willing to participate as in your tradition thank you as you learn about the traditions of my people. So I I love I really love this I loved it more than I was expecting like I selected this movie for the reasons discussed I wasn't expecting until to like it as much and I didn't really know. I also didn't know is three hours when I selected it which I know was a surprise I found out when you guys announced it I was like oh that's a shock. And so I think part of my one my one quibble with the movie is that the third act does drag and like you know once you come back from the end from the break from the intermission I feel that third act like you kind of know what's going badly and I feel like it takes a while it takes a bit longer to get there. So that's like my only kind of note on the movie that of a con so I ended up like sort of just deducting a half star from what otherwise be a perfect movie for me and I call it a four and a half. Wow good enough. I definitely had more notes for the first half before like the intermission I realized that I have maybe like five or six lines for the second half. Danny, I don't remember mentions final thoughts reading. I think we covered everything. I was sitting. I'm with you the after intermission attracts a bit it is three hours and you at the end you'd feel like it was three hours. I was sitting at four stars but I'm at four and a half after watching the documentary today I was really impressed with you know the making of. I was impressed every that worked on the film there is just something about I mean like I said with the performances even the people behind the camera there is just something about. This film that just brought it out in people and it just made me feel great watching people work on this film so I'm at four and a half stars I really loved this movie. Wow wow wow wow wow wow. You watch this doc. Yeah I want to watch this I haven't seen it either streaming on Paramount plus jjuby interesting the doc that the doc is on that but not the right. I rented it on canopy support your local libraries or someone told me one of those app those library apps is bad or something I don't know which would be. Yeah there's some blue libraries have to pay I don't know I don't have time to think about the back stories of how better to support libraries I'm doing my best that I can do out here we can ask you a library so we can ask for a photo. I don't mention the spotter any. Some honorable mentions to have his little cap. I need one of these hats. Good cap you're going to get it tomorrow. Yeah. Little Jewish cap no that is no okay I think those are different. That's a good one it's a good one no it's not entirely dissimilar from like an Irish like walking hat like I feel like if you. I feel if you went to like a outdoorsy store and like you know you know and outside of cork you could find a hat you could have people. They're just like higher taxi hats like our friend Jonesy has probably ten of those hats is like you know those taxi cap driver hats. Yeah it's different yeah we have to do some research. The whole laser wolf fiasco was fantastic yes what would I do with two the same. Oh my god that was hilarious. An amazing bit there that was like a. Costello bit or something. What do you just get meme template. I felt like there were so many times where he was talking you know pushing his cart but his lips weren't actually moving. Which is fine I think there's a lot of a d r and yeah it's almost a hundred percent yeah they shot out. They shot out like Croatia and we're like all right now we need the audio. Yeah I my sound bar sorry my sound bar sometimes gets out of sync so I'm like paranoid that like that happens but then I have to also remember if it's like a movie from the 70s. It's like is it my sound bar or is it just a movie. Another great heavy line is when he wants to see models machine I want to see. And then he opens the door sees it closes in runs. Oh man great scene so many funny moments and then his final line. When he says thanks for everything to the horse. That was pretty hilarious but also touching at the same time I thought this movie I was surprised that it kind of ended on a downer. Yeah you know it was kind of like whoa this is getting pretty dramatic all of a sudden they're just I'm like looking at the runtime there's five minutes left and they're just. They're getting on the dirt road and leaving yeah but it did seem fitting and then of course the fiddlers there at the end and like Tavia smiles so you know it'll work out for Tavia in the end. But yeah I had a great time with this I really enjoyed all the music. I'm at four stars. Oh baby baby. What country is the fiddler going to. It's going to New York. You know fun honorable mention I forgot is that this movie is huge in Japan or like the fiddler not the movie but like the performing performing a fiddler is huge in Japan and there's like there's still like it's still going over there. And like it's sort of because I mean it's a good musical but it's because like this notion of being bound by tradition and like the communitarian norms is like a kind of a Japanese concept as well. And like you know obligations the family is also like a you know a Japanese concept as well but it plays huge over there so maybe maybe the fiddler is going to Tokyo. I mean my great grandmother did apparently so they bring that up in the dock about yeah. Oh they did huge there yeah. They also said that the fiddler was the essence of the Jewish people. Oh. Mmm. Yeah. All right my honorable mentions I think we got most of them I mean the idea of a matchmaker still just mind blowing to make it. That song was great though. Once they started saying the matchmaker song I was like forehead slap. Oh that's where this is from. But ever even a poor tailor is entitled to some happiness. That one. What a long. Oh the right before the intermission where he they're like he's just like standing there with like the wedding you know tarnished the town destroyed he's just kind of like his hands. He's like you know he's holding his hands there he's just like looking up. Well that was great. It's very subdued powerful scene. Do you love me great song. She's dead to us. Oh yeah I for an eye or tooth for tooth good idea that way the whole world will be blind and toothless. Yeah I had a lot of fun with this too. The first something I thought dried I think it was maybe the back half. It's more of a mental drag just because there's so much fun to be had in the first half where it almost felt like the second half was like more real in some of those conversations. Also the idea of him like being a milk man. Does he get paid or is this just like is there any kind of transfer of money. Maybe a barter system. Yeah. Barter system. It's on retainer. He's just like delivering like one glass of milk to people. Yeah that's fresh baby. What do you do what do you do you drink it you added to the new. They had their like little pitcher they each had like because they show when he's reading the newspaper he's got like his standardized measuring cup and he dumps it in and they've got like the exact right size receptacle for the milk. I don't know they got a system worked out for it. Yeah that that milk container was cool though. I did that how the cap served as that. More stars for me. Had a lot of fun with this. Goodness. This is a much higher rated than I would have expected. I was very worried about this both because you know some things have happened to other guests on this pod. H is holding a newspaper and he's just like twisting it hearing the ratings. Honorable mentioned I forgot to bring up age was raised in like a an evangelical Pentecostal tradition I believe. Anyway he had a Christian bar mitzvah growing up. Which is a thing I'd never heard of. It's not real. He brought it up. It's definitely not real but it happened nonetheless. Like somewhere in Florida he had a swamp Christian bar mitzvah. I mean there's many stories of from H's past that just they sound strange when you hear them. If you ask questions you won't learn more. He's almost like dumbfounded that you're asking a question about some story he's telling you and that's that. You can shoot us an email or drop us a VM at 70mmPOD at gmail.com. He's the links on 70mmPOD.com. Oh my god this poster. Thank you. The art has dropped. The art has dropped. God. It's color palette. You kidding me? Let's see. Let's hear from art. Dear friend art tonight. Should we bring up the concert that art is at as of recording right now? It's muse and evanescence. Wow. Wake me up baby. What a banger. Wow it's another twilight rewatch that art is on the pulse right now. All right so art emails and Jason on the show tonight. What a get. How about these middling reviews coming in from the villagers feel sick about it. I hope all my friends get the help they need. Hey how exhilarating was it to see Tavia move his dad bod in this way. It was high art. Yeah we haven't really talked about the dance style. Yeah. Yeah. I had dance. Also the graveyard dream sequence is an all time good time but imagine seeing it for the first time at age six scarred me for life. Oh my gosh. Finally I watched my mom's old original DVD played on my 4k blu ray player. Follow up question is DVD up skilling the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the public. Yeah. Speaking of sense I say. Just like absolute s need to check out the 40th anniversary blu ray to see if her restoration was done. My copy of this five star movie was not good out with the fan tonight during tonight's live show so I'll be excited to jump into the uncut episode tomorrow so I can hear the five star reveals drop one at a time. Good Sabbath art. That's great. All right whatever we watched on voodoo I questioned if it was 4k it looked great. I think there yeah there probably is that recent for blue ray restoration which I'm guessing was cut from a 4k restoration where the hell of phrasing is on those things. You're at HDX waiting for the 50th to drop the 4k. Who do we want to hear from? We actually got a lot of VMs together. Just go. Just fire them off. Let's get these. Let's get these over it. I actually. Let's just go. Just fire them off. I look at the runtime of this VM and I almost plot. So here we go. This is silly from the Dune Pod community. Dune Pod projectionist. He does our screenings. Thank you. Nice. Well if somebody has to reveal old movies young people can't discover these things themselves. I need a co-host. Someone interesting. Oh gosh. And who likes Dune? Tape decker. Tape decker. I'll bring the film. I'll bring the film. I'll bring the host. Slender and pale. I'll bring the film. I'll bring the film. I'll bring the host. Slender and pale. I'll bring the film. I'll bring the film. I'll bring the host. Slender and pale. I'll bring the film. I'll bring the host. Slender and pale. I'll bring the host. Slender and pale. I'll bring the host. Slender and pale. I'll bring the host. Slender and pale. I'll bring the host. Slender and pale. I'll bring the host. Slender and pale. I'll bring the host. I'll bring the host. Slender and pale. be happy and even if you're not. You'll get to watch good films with... The Chuckle Hutt. H, I found him. Won't you be a lucky guy. His hair is full and thick. That is from side to side. You said not good catch, right. Right. You heard he has twitter. He'll tweet you every night. But only till it crumbles. So you're alright. If you think you'd get us then. Well I've done the best I can. With no podcasts. No twitter, no cultural footprints. Be glad you got a part. Tape decker, tape decker. You know that it's still very long. Till Doom part two. Up to this minute I misunderstood that I could get stuck for good. Wow. Wow. What do you have to say about that VM Jason? Look it actually raises an important point which is first of all silly is very talented and we're obviously we're grateful to have him and as our Doom proper Jack. I see leaves voicemails that are highly creative every week and we need those voicemails because our podcast is not as good as 70 millimeter. So we need the voicemail to really bring it home. But the matchmaker voicemail reminds me that proto actually was the yenta matchmaker for me and age because he was meant to be the third host of Doom. I was told that he was the co-host of Doom pod and that I could come on as a guest for a couple episodes and then as soon as I said yes this is what age told me as soon as I said yes proto dipped into the red sea and was never seen from again. You did our first episode with us but at a couple more but like I was left with this maniac. That's the story of our range marriage. So that is a classic memory of forgetting that Purdy was early in. He would come in every so often like once a month he'd make another appearance on the blog. We did all the books. We did all the books. That's right. All the books together. Yeah. Well I mean it's off and we're fortunate that it ended up the way that it has been. I mean you have what a beautiful marriage of H and Jason that we get to experience as spectators. I mean if anyone could see the back and forth that we witnessed today at a private discord was unhinged. Oh my gosh. Unhinged. Love me. Thank you silly for the VM. Let's see. Let's go to a letter plus VM from on Casey Haas. Oh gosh. Hey 70m family it's Casey. I wanted to send something in on this final week of the last temptation of 70mm. I know religion and faith can be tricky and sensitive subjects for people to talk about which is why art is so great because it can bring these ideas and themes to life in new ways for us to talk about quote art of course like the movies we love but also other forms like poetry. I came across this poem last week and I immediately connected with and I wanted to share it with you as you close out this month. This is the beautiful striped sparrow by Mary Oliver. Excuse me. Yeah let's listen in here. In the afternoons in the almost empty fields I hum the hymns I used to sing in church. They could not tame me so they would not keep me a lass and how that feels the weight of it I will not tell any of you not ever. Still as they promised God once he is in your heart is everywhere so even here among the weeds and the brisk trees how long does it take to hum him strolling one or two acres of the sweetness of the world not counting a lapse now and again of sheer emptiness. Once a deer stood quietly at my side and sometimes the wind has touched my cheek like a spirit. Am I lonely? The beautiful striped sparrow serenely on the tallest weed in his kingdom also sings without words. My gosh but I don't know that was going to be a beautiful song. I had my producer hat on. Sorry Casey. I feel like we knocked this month out of the park. It was a good month. If I can be frank with you. Yeah I've really enjoyed it as a fan. I thought it was a really good selection of movies and loved hearing like both stuff like last imitation as well as like interstellar which both felt like really big ones to cover. And then are connected they're connected in this theme that you've been. Interstellar the response to the inner cellar up it's like we paid money to have that movie. We had a free blue check on that episode. How about H being bullied into removing his blue check off Twitter finally. It took the day that every other every other regular blue check would be removed for him to finally make the decision. He still has it though because I know he's out there getting run off the other run out. He's happy clown. It's great. It's just great. We got it. We gave a problem with his wife found out that he'd paid for it. That was it always does. It's always the problem when the web finds out. Yeah. Speak of the devil himself and he shall appear. Hey guys it's H calling in for fiddler. Wow. All my favorite podcasters gathered together to celebrate film. You absolutely love to see it. And you're covering a cinema classic by Norman Jewison which wouldn't be topped until he directed his 1975 masterpiece roller ball. Jason I hope fiddler fared better than millis crossing. It could be tough having your beloved film walk in the tightrope. Anyway can't wait to hear what you guys thought. Love you. Bye. When is H watching fiddler on the roof? He does not have time for fiddler. Yeah he should be doing it right now. What's H doing during the day? He's got plenty of time. Right. He's produced. He's cutting out clips for episodes. We got 70 pages of notes for each of our episodes. We're at it. We just agreed to add like more episodes. Like excuse me. Is this breaking news? I guess so. Are you allowed to announce this? I'm probably not allowed to announce it but we're doing there's going to be a special episode. Okay I'm allowed to announce it. We're going to cover the premiere of silo. The TV show that's adapted from from wall. We're back to Ferguson. With Rebecca Ferguson of do. There you go. Yeah. And so we're going to cover that and we'll have an episode that drops. Like the episode it comes out on like May the 5th and we'll have an episode that comes out on like the Tuesday. Wow. Tuesday drop. Yeah. Maybe every week he says. Now we're now we're now we're excited about more episodes. This is a recap pod. I was trying to get us. I was trying to do this to cover the 40th anniversary of V the mini series. Oh yeah. Because that that came out. That's 40 years. 40 years. It was the same week as Return of the Jedi. Which means. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds like a patreon type release. Yeah. Like maybe put that behind the paywall. I think we have to pay people the whole thing. It's like reverse patreon. Here's $4. Please leave your episode on V the last battle. I did watch the whole thing though. I watched the whole mini series on the plane just to be prepared and it is actually surprisingly good. I will defend V the mini series. I remember seeing that on sci-fi channel. Yeah. That was on reruns and like during the day or something. I remember seeing Blizzard dudes or whatever the plot of that show was for battle star to come on. There was a modern day V. Was there like a reboot type thing? There's a reboot with Monica right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who? From fire. The woman from fire she's in Deadpool. She plays Deadpool's wife. Yes. Life? Yeah. I don't know what's happening. Sounds made up. Me and Jason on the same page. Yeah. We're all very much. Are you aware now that Danny is guesting on a V retrospective patreon exclusive for Dude Plus? Ladies who play Lizard People. Series of films. Okay. We have another long VM here from the first timer. 90 seconds or less is kind of like what? You know, we shoot for here, but it's okay for first timers. Let us slide. What's up? I'm the M. M. Pogg. Long time listener, first time caller. Love movies. Love hearing about them being able to go back through after the discussion and kind of dig through the deeper details. I'm calling about a stellar five banger of four. One of my all-time favorite movies. Thank you. Huge sci-fi fan. I don't really understand what people get still hung up on the science of this movie. You want to do science fiction? So it's a lot of the kind of view, whatever it wants. There you go. I do think that there's typically like cold mechanical sci-fi movies and there's typically heartfelt kind of more like morality versions of those movies. I feel like this movie really blends those two together perfectly. I also find it really interesting that of course, Contacts. McConaughey in it as well. And I feel like in that movie, Religion, Science, they both are argued, but in a way that they're able to coexist and that they're only respecting both of them. Can we all reach a balance in society and in ourselves? And I feel like this movie is a really good way to utilize that view as well. Just understanding that perhaps love is an actual action. It isn't actually a scientific study of which to be observed to like gain any kind of knowledge or being farther in the world, but without the balance of our emotions with the cold science of what we're trying to do, then people make decisions like lying about a formula that they have. You're the people that they love. Most little things like that. But I do think this movie illustrates that the human spirit and science and humanism, the ingenuity balanced together would be the thing that kind of propel us forward, how this happened. But of course, you know, you go on forever about the aesthetics, all that. I'll cut it a shorter. But thought banger love this movie. One of our all five favorites, the 2001 of our generation. That's the other good thing. We got to have Matthew McCon in it. But I love the podcast. Thank you guys for what you do. Can you get a name? What was his name? He actually just sent a follow up V.M. without answer. Oh, I forgot to say my name is Mark Willis. I do tattoos. My Instagram is at 30k of joy. I would love to see you guys check out the work and I'll be following up and get some of that artwork from Danny soon. I didn't care for you. Oh, yeah. Am I getting a tattoo? Yeah. I just got the interstellar print in my house. That's a man. Oh boy. It's unreal. Yeah, I love this new style of poster. You've tried. I mean, I like the old one, too. I just like seeing you do some new some new directions. Thanks. Unreal. Unreal. Wait until next week's. Stay tuned. Next five weeks. We can be honest. We have one more V.M. before we talk about next week and next month's theme. Hello, 70 millimeter. Hi, Jason. It's Kev here. We all know any real one knows that on another tape deck show, I have been contracted into this kind of Faustian nightmare where I send a cab's questions to do. So to celebrate Jason's appearance in 70 millimeter, I have decided to gift you with one of Kev's questions. Kev's question fiddle around the roof is a story about tradition bumping up against progress among many, many other things. One of the biggest things is Tevia's dedication to tradition versus his children trying to get what they perceive to be better lives for themselves and whether they are or not is up in the air and whether what Tevia does at the end of this movie is up in the air as well. So with Tevia's loyalty to tradition in mind, I would like to ask what are traditions in your family that you are hoping to carry down to your children. Also, before I go, I have to address, I don't just give five stars to anything. I'm really good at self curating. And I love movies and everybody can go look at letterbox.com slash Kev right now. And you can see just how many movies I just can't stand. Look, I'm running out of time. I got to go love you guys. Super psyched for this episode. Jason much love. I'll talk to you guys soon. And that is actually his URL. It's letterbox.com slash that's that's a get that I give that to camera has Kev had that. What are you? Are you in the username, handing out business on letter buys? We've talked about that offline. I think we I won't get into that on the show. Save that one for offline. So what traditions would you want to hand down, Jason? Kev's question. Uh, you know, there's a lot of that we're doing some of like the even though we're not religious, we don't go to services. We actually do like Hanukkah stuff. We like the candles for Hanukkah. And I think that's like, I think that's like one of like the things that I find fun to do in the in the Christmas season because like my wife goes all out for Christmas. Like, it's just like a cool on situation. And so like I feel like it's, you know, my ancestors are looking down on me with my little menorah and like the candles and plus also it's fire. So it's inherently compelling and interesting to kids. Um, so I want to I want to try to keep I want to try to keep that one, uh, that one alive. But I'm really grateful to hear from Kev on this podcast. Kev, I have a Kev eluding to some kind of ironclad contract he can't get out of. Yeah. So I wasn't using some content. Yeah. So like H has a variety of these folks. The voicemails are big for us. And like, but he like he will just ping these poor people and like demand their content and like send agents like Topol to like go to like, go to the house and get those voicemails. You're going to get this voicemail. They're locked in. They're probably out. It's maybe the night before recording or the night of they're like, Oh, I'm out with my wife. I don't have time, but you know, H is, H is paying me. I got to hold on, honey. I got to go in the text messages. I got to go record a song real quick. Give me like 20 minutes. Give me three hours. What traditions you hand in down, Prado? You know what? I often think about this that we don't, I don't really have many traditions. Um, my family didn't like have many traditions growing up. So I'm often thinking, you know, like, what can I do with the kids? You know, because you want to make memories and doing things repeatedly, obviously is like the best way to do that. Um, I don't know. So I'm kind of like, yeah, we don't really have many. I don't know. I can't even think of a single one. Does Latin tolerance count as a tradition? Because that's like, that's big and like, can't be passed down. Yeah. It can't be passed down. Danny, anything? I mean, we really don't have like tradition. I mean, I think we do like little things, but nothing that has at least traveled from my, my growing up to my family now that I can think of. I'm sure Casey's probably screaming at me right now with all the traditions that we have while she listens to this episode, but I don't know. I feel like there's more in my past. I don't want to bring along that I want to give to my kids than not. Um, but anyway, that's probably, that's a different episode. She's probably screaming at me for ending on kev's VM and not hers. That's probably what she's screaming about. So Casey, I apologize earlier. I apologize again. Um, I don't think we had nothing comes to mind in terms of traditions. Amanda and I have tried to just like instill just like a little things about around the house with each other. So James will ask me how my day was when he comes home from school. We started that like when he was super young. We'd ask him how his day was and he would have to ask us. So it's almost become this thing where he knows it's a, it's a part of his day to talk with us about our day. Um, and that's just some little tradition that we started, which I appreciate over time. I mean, you know, how often do your kids ask you how your day was? Some kids that are up on the Xbox right away. You know, too real. So as we mentioned earlier, we, we didn't know what the heck we wanted to do for May. We asked the question on our Patreon. We almost got, we got like a hundred comments with ideas. Some, some good ideas on there. Some good ideas. Mother May I was, was talked about. Let me just say that. Mother May I was, was talked about. Mayhem. Mayhem. Mayhem. Yeah. That was a good one. I had a banger pick for mayhem. So did I. So did I. It was also a mother may I pick at the same time. Oh my gosh. Mikey P left a comment. Stallone month. Oh, trying to right the wrongs of a recent demolition man episode, I believe. It's fascinating. Come what may movies with friend on some blizz who go on to some kind of adventure, heist journey. That was a good one. And let's see. Share month. That's not a real one. Part is when we're talking about share month for three years. It's right around the corner. Let me just see if there's any other ones I want to call out here. Animation. Michael May. May be. That was a good one. Daniel May Lewis. Great suggestion. Let Bec's choose month. It's a month where you let me choose each movie at random. That has five likes on it. I want to, I want the names of everyone that liked that comment and I'm going to take action. We did see one that we thought was just too good and we're actually going to do something we might never do again. We're going to announce all the movies for the month. We've never done this before. This is a this is out of the Dune pod playbook. This is a five. It's an honor. I can't believe I'm here to see it. Let me just name the franchises we're going to. Do I have my list up? I got to get my list. Oh my god. I have it. I have it. I just got named to name some franchise we're going with. Okay. Maybe we'll get to the bottom of this in a second. Star Wars. Rocky. Superman. Good Lord. Jaws. Good Lord. Terminator. Kidding me. Well, we talked about him earlier. Art left a comment. Maybe he thought it was a joke comment, but I'll tell you what, Art. We take it seriously over here. This is not a game, my friend. You did this to yourself. May the fourth only do the fourth movie in a franchise. Oh my god. So we are doing those franchises. That fourth films. The fourth films in them. That's right. So next week, this is not a joke. We're bending the rules a little bit. Who gives an F? It's not a game. It's our podcast. May the fourth, the first episode we'll be doing, to kick it off. Star Wars, 1977. Wow. George Lucas, episode four. Oh my god. A new hope. We did it. Streaming on Disney+. So we also have a big month planned. After Star Wars, we're going to be doing Rocky Four. We will right the wrongs of another pod. After that, I think Dune Pod might have even covered this Superman Four. Superman Four. Did you do Superman Four? You did three. We were continuing the journey. We did Star Trek Four though, the Voyager. Oh, we talked about potentially doing that one. So Superman Four, the quest for peace. Average rating on Letterbox 1.6 will be the judge. Next, after that, we are continuing our yearly tradition. Jaws the Revenge. Dale from Bat and Spider will be back on the show. That's great. Mm-hmm. To continue the journey. You know who stars in Jaws the Revenge? Talk to us. Michael Caine. My name. Yeah. Yeah. Michael Caine. Yeah. I heard he was on the podcast. That was amazing. Yeah, it was insane. I'm actually trying to line up in an interview with Michael. Oh, that's great. For the dispatch. Oh, my God. The dispatch dusting the cobwebs off of that. And I forgot about the dispatch until you just said it. The fourth one. Was that four? That's four already. So there's a fifth week. And we reserve the right to change our mind. You know, at any point, this is the card. Don't get it out. Don't get it out. Don't get it out. I'm just so nice. I'm just so nice. Sick, I'm not used to announcing an episode for like five weeks in advance. It's making me sweat. I don't like it. But tentatively, the last movie we'll cover is a movie that will be just very divisive. Terminator Salvation. Fucking bale. Has anyone seen it? I have seen it. I have seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it. Oh, yeah. The opinions have changed. There's a 4K of that one. Oh, there's also the Joss Whedon pen alien 4. There's alien, whatever it was called. Resurrection. There's a lot of potential for this month. Okay, a lot of potential. Are you not mandating that people watch the despecialized version of A New Hope? You're going to let people watch what's on. I would never recommend anyone go down the dark web to obtain a copy of a movie such as the despecialized. I see. I see. But maybe people should watch the VHS. Danny, is that what you said you're doing? Are you watching the tape of A New Hope? What movie do you see? I'm watching the tape of Joss the Revenge. What? I have it on VHS. It's only, it could only really be appreciated by Katherine Ray. I will always watch Star Wars, how George intended it. And so that is the current version. Until he intended it differently. He has no control anymore. Liam in chat says John Wick 4. I think I saw Hannah mention Twilight at some point. There is a fourth Twilight. Is that true? There's a fourth part too. A lot of movies. There's like nine Twilight movies. I don't know. There's a TV show coming out now. I saw that. Fall in the path of Harry Potter. May the fourth is the month. For the fourth movie in a movie franchise. That's what we're going with. How do you feel? Are you excited? You amped. We wanted something fun. You know, after Holy Month. Yeah. Well, that was what we said. You know, this is a pretty heavy month. We wanted something light. So I'm looking at this lineup. And it's feeling like it fits the bill. Also, I also looked. There's like 390 minute movies in here. Oh my gosh. Are you serious? It's just going to feel great. Yeah. That's like one fiddler. Okay. So I'm excited. Yeah. I think we like had so many ideas in our DMs, but they weren't like that exciting to us. And you know, behind closed doors, one of the things that we want to do on the show is like be excited ourselves to cover some of these movies. So once that idea started in the comments, and we appreciate everyone dropping so many great ideas and being excited about suggesting themes, which makes me think we should probably do that more often. But that's well, I'm not saying we have to. I'm just just an idea. Everyone calm down. So that is Jason's episode. Jason, thank you so much for coming on. Three years. Long time coming, but we did it. Yeah, I really appreciate it. It was a true honor to be here for folks who want to check out DunePod. We have episodes with each of your, whichever your favorite 70 millimeter host is. We have episodes for you. Proto has mentioned, has covered all the Dune books and the thin red line. Danny was on, I think what is my favorite episode of DunePod? What? Tron Legacy episode. Legacy was a lot of fun. It was maybe like we lost something happened. There was like, it was like on Titanic where people got Angel Dust poisoning and like everyone was something like that. Something like that happened during the Tron Legacy. Slim's been on, Slim just gets to cover really terrible movies for some reason. He's, so he did the volleyball movie, Prince of Darkness. That was a great one. Oh, that was a great movie though. Yeah, so there's some good ones. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we mentioned at the top of the show, I think even in the VM that we got from our tattoo friend talked about the sci-fi movies. It's their favorite. We're friends with both of you. As I alluded to last week, our exclusive DMs about watches, they go off all day. Oh, yeah. We're talking about, it's an exclusive club. I can't even name the other members in the DM. That's how exclusive it is. I've got something coming in the mail right now. Oh, that movie. Oh, you see it. Oh, okay. No, I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know what's going to happen. All right, so everyone check out Dune Pot, our friends over there. Proto, any closing thoughts before we enter into May the 4th? Yeah, so I was Googling earlier how to become a rabbi. Because I feel like this might be the next step of spiritual advisors. One thing, but maybe that's where I need to go next. So I'm looking into this. If anybody has any information that they could pass my way. Oh, you could find anything. I mean, it was how to become a rabbi in people. I'm getting Harvard University links. I'm looking for maybe a medium post if anybody has something I can work with. Wicky How? Can Midjourney help us? Actually, maybe we should work on Rabbi Proto Midjourney. Slash Imagine at some point. Okay, so we'll see everybody next week for Star Wars, a new hope. Episode four on Disney possible. Episode four on Disney. 70 millimeter is a tape deck production featuring original artwork provided by Danny Haas. Spiritual guidance and feature the robot who loves movies provided by Pertilexis, producer at large Dale Underscore. Transcripts provided by Sophie Shin and music composed by Cinematric. Prince and other merch are available on 70mmpod.com. This episode was mixed, edited, and produced by me, slim. 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