Star Wars (1977)

Hey, it's your old past slam and this is 70 millimeter a podcast for film lovers just like you Every Monday. I chat about recently watched movies with my close friend and artist Danny Haas. I want to touch it. I want to I want to be in it There's I don't think any other movie does that to me, but new hope and our close friend and movie Insider Protelexis the last time they gave us more Luke We were all weeping Okay, I was weeping every month we pick a new theme that guides our discussion each episode and the theme this month is May the fourth we can only choose the fourth movie in a franchise to talk about every week The movie kicking things off is star wars aka episode four aka a new hope from 1977 What more is there to say? enjoy you you you you the Yeah, yeah, I think you ought to something poo. Can I get a, a ringo? Can I get a draw? This is a big episode. Can we, let's just cut the BS. This is a big episode, right? Yeah. It's a big moment for us. It's huge. Star Wars. It's a star wars. Name a movie that would be bigger. Interstellar. Well, we did it. Name another. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. Oh, actually, I knew the Czech movie we were doing next week. I already forgot our order. Let's just get the business out of the way. Use the chapters to skip right to the Star Wars talk. You know, you see Danny's art on Twitter. We haven't seen it yet. You're looking at it. It's so good that Danny's still in the office twiddling away on it as we record. So you're looking at it. You can buy it as a print. It's unbelievable. And you're like, you saw it on Twitter. I don't want to listen to these yahoos. Just get me to the Star Wars discussion. Use the chapters, you big baby. Oh. But right off about, I want to ask a question about Star Wars. This is the first time ever we're doing this. You're asking a question already. I'm asking a question about Star Wars. Just a teaser discussion later. Oh, gosh. Look, we have some people. I'll start with proto. What version of Star Wars 1977 did you watch in preparation for our discussion happening later this episode? I watched both. I watched the George cut first. You know what? I threw it on. I think it was Sunday. Let me just put it in the background. I'll watch it again. I just threw it on. And I found myself watching the whole trilogy. Spoilers. I watched that. But then I mean this 4K77 talk. I had to see it with my own eyes. So I watched that version. Oh. What version did you watch? I watched three versions this week. I watched the 4K on Disney+. I watched the 2004 theatrical DVD cut bonus disc cut the four three aspect ratio wide screen vision. And then I watched the project 4K77, whatever that nonsense was. Yeah, I saw your review. You were heated. Watch three versions of Star Wars this week. I only watched the 4K77 version. So people are curious. They don't know what the what is that mean. What does that even mean? What's the four pole? What's the 4K77 version? What are you talking about? What is it man? We'll get into that later. So that's just we're just setting the stage for the discussion later this episode. Real quick. I want to say hello to some new patrons. Samuel Andrew, Britain, Andre, all joined our patron this week. Get access to our discord discounts on Danny's prints. If you're a patron, you could patron. You could buy the Star Wars print at a discount. FYI. FYI. And by the time this episode is out, we will have announced the intern chosen movie that we'll be covering just for supporters. Oh, no. This might be the biggest moment in the history of our Instagram. We have an official list. I was prepping the list, getting it ready. We have 50 movies on this list to choose from. Well, I guess technically 49. So it's going to be in the movie at this point will have been announced. Yeah. Lord willing. So if you want to go back and watch that, that wonderful announcement on IG, look it up in the rear of the room. Maybe. Nobody scandalously, nobody typed in Shrek 2. I can't believe it. Right. So it's a big Shrek game in Discord, but nobody submitted Shrek 2. I'll just going to let that sit. People can judge that as they may. When you patreon money is on the line, we know what talks. Money talks. Shrek walks. Yeah. Yeah. I want to hear from Proto real quick. You know, this is the second in the show we talk about what movies we watched. He watched a big one. Masters of the universe. Oh my God. Oh, yeah. Dungren big. How'd that go? Yeah. Dolph Lungrens in this Courtney Cox. This is from 1987 also has Frank Langela. And it has that guy, the guy from Halloween, the cop guy Baldy. It's just. Yeah, Baldy McGill. Is that his name? Where's Kevin? Someone named. Just named that guy that I actually. I'm not trusting that actor. Yeah. So I watched that. I gave it two stars. You know, it wasn't that good. It has some interesting ideas. I like the I like the idea of Skeletor in a movie. The Skeletor just didn't look very good. Maybe we need a second run at it. So a lot of second. I'm sorry. I thought it. I forgot it actually isn't the guy from the Halloween movies. I didn't realize you were doing your Dennis Quaid, Greg, Kenyr, Bit. It's not the same. I'm not. Wait, what? It's not the same guy from Halloween. James Tolkien, Kevin Chat was saying the right actor and the actor from the original Halloween. What's that guy's name? 1978. Donald Pleaszance. Donald Pleaszance. Okay. You're talking about Pleaszance. That's how high-pedal holds the Halloween franchise. I was in the house. I Dennis Quaid, myself. You did. You did. You said Quaid, dude. Look at this guy and tell me he's not in Halloween. I can't believe this. The sum matches the universe. How was it? How'd it go? Yeah, not very good. Two stars. Watch Flash Gordon instead. Oh. I can't remember if you like bash the plot of the movie. I liked the idea of that movie because if this happened today with an old property and they brought the character into modern day and he had to deal with modern day stuff, I think that's pretty smart idea. If you say so. Just my opinion. You also liked Last Action Hero. I did like that. I think that's a good movie. Yeah. We need to move on. Master of the Universe has entirely derailed the Star Wars episode. So Donald Pleasants isn't in Masters of the Universe. Apparently not. No. No, he's not. He's not. We did watch a movie together. The three of us. We did. We watched Thunderball. What a time. That's going to be about out for our interns as an audio commentary. Shortly. Danny's in the editing bay. He's like George, you know, attaching tape together in the editing bay. He's putting the tape together. That'll be out soon. A great time watching Thunderball. Great time. I had a beautiful time. What else did you watch this week, Danny? I watched so much Star Wars this week. Okay. I watched the from Star Wars of Jedi, making up saga, Empire of the Dreams, Star Wars Three Times. I did have a DNF. I don't remember what it was called. I do remember what it was called. I DNFed a movie that I forgot came out. I think it had like a weird track record of coming out. The 2022's 5.2577 May 25th, 77. It's just about a guy who saw Star Wars and wanted to become a filmmaker. Really? And I got maybe 20 minutes in and pulled the plug. This was not for me. I was not feeling this film. Didn't really enjoy it. I thought I would. I thought it was going to fall into that like fanboys-esque type movie for me, but didn't finish it. Didn't like it. Got really bored. Is this a doc mirror or like a drama? It's a real movie. Oh. Real thing. Is that a streuze and poster? It's a knock off streuze and I think I got to throw it. I don't want to say that out loud because some artists work hard on this. That actually looks like Alex Malivar. No, it is. It's like he's being like George. He's making his movies in his backyard, etc. This is George's Fablemans. This is no. That's what we revert. I don't know. It's like George inspiring someone's Fablemans. Who turned out to be a nobody. Speaking of Star Wars. People continue the Star Wars discussion. I posted something in Discord. Nobody read it. I was shocked. I went on my own tumbler because I remembered something I found over a decade ago. But David is it David Prowse who plays Vader? He's doing like press after Star Wars. It might have been like a Comic Con in 1978. At the Comic Con they like recapped it in a newspaper article. Prowse blurts out that Vader is Luke's father and that will be revealed in Empire Strikes Back in 1978. Blabbermow. Right? How crazy is that? Is that the first spoiler? That's what they were saying on the article. It could be the first recorded spoiler. It might be. I wonder how far that traveled or not traveled if it's 1978. It probably doesn't leave that city. Really. Wort a mouth. I don't even think people had telephones to help spread it up. Could they talk another? I don't think we had a written language at that point. Prowse, any other movies that you watch you want to talk about? Shyamalan? Oh yeah. I got to see the Shyamalan movie and I've really liked it. I hate to say it but you guys were right. It's a good movie. It's a fun time. Had a great time. It was gorgeous. I thought it was gorgeous. Sound design. Shyamalan, he really is a talented filmmaker. I have to say. I had a great time watching this. Wasn't sure what I was getting into. So that was great. Is Batista in Dune 2? Dune Part 2? I don't know. Did he survive the first one? I can't remember. I can't remember either. But they just put out those photos. What is his name? Has anyone re-watched that? Does anyone know? I can't tell who's who anymore. People are saying in chat that he is in Dune 2. Yeah. Some press photos as a recording came out today. People are losing their minds. Dune Part 2, the Dune Discord, I assume, the Dune Part Discord, I assume is in complete disarray at these photos. The cast in this movie, it's like a Wes Anderson movie. You're not a factor. That have been announced. Every week we give out a free year of Letterbox Pro disclaimer of a Letterbox. It gets rid of ads. You can see year-end stats. Which by the way, I looked at Prados stats on Letterbox. This week he's flying. He's way ahead of last year in terms of movies watch. He's even more ahead of the year before that. Prada 2 plus 1-0 still engaged. Fiddler on the roof review was tagged 70mmPOD. That's from Jaren John. The dad had my heart. Jaren John just got a year of Letterbox Pro for tagging that review 70mmPOD. Oh my. Congratulations. I feel like have we been giving it out every week? I can't remember now. Sometimes I remember sometimes I don't. What's going on with this lighting above you, Slim? You got this light you got. Oh, that probably brings linters. Really? It's like you're glowing. I turned it on during a meeting earlier today. It's like the ride you're never having over their pockets. It's like if this was in a photo I'd be asking my friends to verify if they see those. It's like a feels-like aberration. Do I want to talk about anything before we get into Star Wars? What came through today that you one starred? My weekend watchlist shuffle Neon City. Oh, it was for 1991. Michael Ironside takes place in 2053. It's like a Mad Max ripoff. The budget wasn't there to support it at all. I was zoning out hard. It made me really just question my watchlist. Again, I think the second time maybe in 12 months where I really just rethought everything. I did a calling, another calling of my watchlist. You have to call it. Oh, wow. I'm down to 96 films now. Oh, my. I caught a big time. It's impressive. It's almost like that it doesn't matter. I mean, it does matter. It matters. You don't have a podcast if you don't have a watchlist. I'm not sure that he needs to be something on there. Then he's at least be one movie every week. We'll see what the future holds for all slim and shuffling my watchlist. I'm disturbed at my watchlist right now. What's the number? What's the number? I'm embarrassed to say. I needed to know what digits. How many digits? 690. What? I thought it was like in the low hundreds of four. You've been cooking. You just kept going up. It just keeps going up. What was the last movie you put on your watchlist? Q. From 1982. Somebody in the Discord watch. I was like, that was a real movie. I was like, squing at that poster to see what movie this is. I mean, David Carradine. David Carradine. Holy moly. You've got a watchlist this. Okay, I'm watchlist. Oh, my god. I'm back. I'm back. I'm back in where I was. It's on Peacock. Okay. There you go. Great poster. I mean, it's out of 3.2. J-Well gave it four stars. Oh, my. Yeah, there's life here. I trust the J-Well rating. J-Well is at the top of my trust list for I'll be rating. It's impressive. Should we get into Star Wars 1977? Some people call it Star Wars Episode 4, A New Hope. That's why we're doing it. It's the fourth movie in the franchise. It's the fourth episode. It's just the entire month. As we mentioned at the top of the show, we're only covering the fourth movie in a franchise. And everyone knows this is the fourth movie in the Star Wars franchise. So Prado, what is Star Wars 1977? So once upon a time, there was a little boy in the desert and a Jedi comes along and says, you know, gifts, train you. You'll be like me. It'll be great. Boy ends up meeting his princess. Kind of falls in love with her, but the Jedi don't roll that way. So it sort of becomes a thing. He ends up getting pissed off at the Jedi, but has two kids in the process. And one of them becomes a rogue princess and the rebellion and the other ends up a son of a farmer on the same planet. And he gives, to give his dad a second beat down. So he sends his own kid after him. Spoilers, but his kid does be a disaster. But that's in a next movie. In this one, he just blows up a moon-sized laser station. And that's Star Wars. John Williams planned right now behind us. I forgot to mention that I actually did sort of watch this twice. I listened to a director's commentary with George, Burt, Carrie, and who's the head of ILM that is like, was assistant director technically on this one? I can't remember that guy's name. He was called like second camera or something. He was in the ILM. Dennis Muren. Muren. Thank you, Ron. He's a very good audio commentary. Oh, nice. How was Carrie on that? She wasn't in it enough. It was one of those combined commentaries where I think they were all recorded separately and they just kind of edited in each other. The one notable thing that Carrie called out are one of the things that she had said, but she read the script out loud with, oh, is Miguel Ferrer? Miguel Ferrer. Yeah. He's in Robocop and Twin Peaks, a bunch of other stuff, but I just think it's funny they're hanging out in the 70s, just like reading scripts out loud, deciding if they're going to do a movie. Danny, where were you when you first saw the first Star Wars movie? The fourth star, the fourth Star Wars movie. The first time I saw George's fourth attempt at Star Wars, fourth and final attempt at Star Wars directing. I didn't see it until the 97 remastered releases. I didn't grow up on Star Wars. My family never, I don't actually don't know why we didn't have Star Wars. Well, I mean, it didn't. It wasn't really vat. No, it wasn't. It wasn't any of that kind of stuff. I think we just kind of grew up watching only sports movies and we watched sports a lot. So Star Wars never made it in front of me until middle school, high school, 97, whenever that was for me and the remasters. And at the time, my now wife dating then, her casey's mom was the gateway for me into a lot of sci-fi stuff. So a lot, which is mainly just Star Wars. She was a big Star Trek fan too. But I remember seeing the remasters with her and in the theaters at one point. But yeah, it wasn't until, until 97 and then coming into episode one that I got into Star Wars. Mm hmm. Prado? I grew up with Star Wars. I don't really remember not having seen Star Wars. I remember the reveal of watching Empire Strikes Back and being like, what? Yeah, it was like we always had them on, I feel like. It was just, yeah, from a young age. And I don't really remember when they, you know, did the specialized versions. Like I don't remember any of that or them being in theaters. I didn't see them at that point. I don't know. Yeah. And I don't know when I like we got a new copy. I guess my dad probably just bought the trilogy at one point and then I was watching those. Mm hmm. Yeah. I remember seeing the special editions in theaters. That was a big moment. And I remember rewatching Empire and Jedi all the time. But Star Wars, a new hope, episode four, I don't know. I never liked it growing up. Like I was just too like clean. It wasn't as cool as the other ones. Everyone was kind of younger. So I think even then I just felt like it wasn't the cooler version of the trilogy, at least in my opinion, at the time. So I was rewatching Empire and Jedi like all the time. And I saw those in the theaters. I had the special edition toys. My brother had the original toys growing up. So we had a lot of those like original sets and house growing up. And then like what was the sum of the books with like whatever one dash rendar was in Eric. Oh, dash. And the Empire was the era. The Empire was something Empire. Several people are typing shadows. Was the game that dash rendar was in shadows of the Empire? Oh, okay. I guess the same name of the book. So when that all was happening, I was deep in Star Wars. Like horde dash rendar was like the coolest dude ever. I loved his ship. I had the Boba Fett. So all that stuff, all those play sets, I was constantly playing with those toys. So Star Wars has been, you know, just as long a part of my life as, you know, like comics or wrestling. Those are like the Holy Trinity of things I like. And I mentioned, I vividly remember playing through Dark Forces multiple times. That game felt like it was one of those FPS games that changed my life. But any Star Wars game, like the one on Super Nintendo was like, I could see myself sitting there, see myself. But yeah, I feel like I can like sitting there playing on Nintendo and just like all those games throughout the years. Terros, masters of Terros, Kossy. Remember who was Luke's love interest in that game? Somebody remembers that. I didn't play the games. I don't know. You never played the game. Yeah. In the books too, Marijade. Yeah. That was like Luke's love verse. She was awesome in the books. But yeah, and I've mentioned it many times in previous episodes, but the Jedi Academy trilogy is what I have no idea if it holds up, but it was at the time that was like my Harry Potter books, you know, following Luke, starting the Jedi Academy up, searching for young Jedi. So when they announced like Ray as her new movie is essentially, you know, hopefully that, that is like extremely exciting to me. Oh, you're so. Yeah, I'm super excited. I hope they never reference her lineage at any point in the film. They're by it too, but you know, they're going to. But those books are so cool because, you know, Luke's do not clap. One of my favorite parts for last. But like those books have those moments with like Ben Solo, like he's training young Jedi who were like really kind of flimsy on the light or dark side and all that stuff. And he has a deal with it over the course of the books. So all that to say is we're pretty big Star Wars nuts probably here. So we'll go around the room. Our top three things that we jotted down on this viewing and then we'll give our final rating honorable mentions. I want to start if I may. Please. Please. I'll just briefly get into the history of this film with George. You know, there was a new story that came out this week where Spielberg regretted going back and editing. And then people were like, you know, doing the elbow thing like, huh, George, huh? You hear in that? George, you read this? George, can you read? But I don't, I think they're different. Like the version, and we talked about this in a previous episode, but like George like hates the theatrical version of this movie. Right. He's like, he like despises it with every fiber of his being. Because he thinks he was so constrained in what had to be produced on film that he almost like never wants to see it again. I think that's different from Spielberg. It's just cops holding guns and walkie talkies. Right. That's totally different. I feel like what do you think about the history of the versions and the special editions, Danny? Do you hold like a reverence to the theatrical or any other version of it? You know, I think because of my introduction into Star Wars was the remastereds that I didn't know about theatricals or any of this drama. I mean, who knows when I actually found out that there was a theatrical cut or some other cut of this? I was so young. And then anytime I watched Star Wars, it was whatever was out. So it would have been the remasters. It would have been the added job of stuff or ends. Anything that was added. So for me, I don't care. Like I don't care about the theatricals. I don't hold any. I mean, at this point, it's like, whatever is on, I'm going to watch and I'm not going to fight for anything. Now, when we talk about like project, the stuff that they're doing for 4K77, I don't even know if they're still doing it or what the deal is. To be to, it is like maddening to think that we have to have individuals spending their own money, getting money, raising money to have to restore arguably one of the most, the most iconic game-changing movies of all time. Like this shouldn't be an issue. This should not have to be asked. The biggest company in the world owns the rights of this film. They should be putting out a fully remastered, full quality original cut of these trilogies. That's like, that's a no-brainer to me. This shouldn't be the individual should not be getting 35 millimeters film to scan themselves to make these original movies again. This shouldn't be a thing. Whether it's just, it's just kind of frustrating that it's any, even in a conversation. Yeah. We referenced 4K77, there's a Hamies, Harleys cut. The despecialized is a word that you'll hear in Star Wars circles. There's been projects where people, like Star Wars nerds have tried to make their own version of the theatrical cut as best they can to the point where some projects have pulled an HD version that was on Fox at one point, Fox at one point streamed an HD version of the original movie and people recorded that and started to piece together an original theatrical version from different things. Then recently, there's what's called a 4K77 version where a team obtained, I think, a 70 millimeter cut of a theatrical print, like that a theater at one point played. They created a 4K master from that, which you can find on archive.org. I'm not going to walk anyone through how to get it. You can do some Googling yourself, but that's the version that I watched. That was the first time I think I'd ever watched a theatrical version, the one that people saw in theaters in 77. I thought it was fascinating to watch because I don't see any added scenes that I remember growing up. It's legit the same thing outside of the audio. I think they had to find the audio from a laser disc edition from this print. It's still piecemeal, but what do you think, Prado, about these different versions? Having watched both of them, and I don't think I really even would have to have watched the 4K77 version. When I watch the ones that you get on Disney Plus, the added CGI just so noticeable to me. It takes me out of it as I'm watching it. I guess I just find myself thinking, I wish this wasn't in here because the movie is really of its time. Any time there is the CG, it just feels like it's layered on in the way that it is. It's just very noticeable. It's not very subtle. You can just see it very clearly because of when it was done. It's not like I'm not going to watch it. It's right there. If I want to watch Star Wars, I'm just going to turn it on. I'm not like, oh, I can't even watch it. It's fine. It's fascinating. I'm just fascinated by George even doing this. I said in my review, I would watch a whole series where I'm just interviewing George about like, just draw every single piece of information you possibly could of anything he can remember of just like this whole process of like when he was making it the year, like every 10 years, George, how are you feeling about Star Wars? I'm just like incredibly fascinated by the whole thing from his perspective. I will say from my perspective as a creative, I completely understand the idea of having to make something and get it out on time and then to see it and be like, this is not exactly what I wanted. So like even like when I will put up the art for this episode this week, I will look at it again and be like, I need to change this and reupload it or I'll never want to see it again because I'm tired of looking at it. So the idea that someone like George who creates Star Wars under whatever he can to get it out, makes his cuts, makes his sacrifices for this film, which is the whole job book conversation. But then to have all the money in the world and all control, to be able to go back and change things to way how he wants it, it's his creation. Like go for it. Like I don't care that he did this. Like just it's this is what he wants. It's his movies. It's his stories. It's just do it, George. I don't care. Like make your movies, make your changes. I can understand this kind of frustration in inside of him. Can you imagine I'm generally anti-government making or large corporations making a lot of money? But like, I mean, can you imagine a 4K box set of the original trilogy theatrical versions? Like they can charge. Imagine what they could charge for that and people would just look, they'd be licking the lips, trying to get their hands on that. Dayfalone audio commentary. Oh my God. The dayfalone Lucas Roundtable, like actually that would, I'd be into that. Like around table with those two and maybe someone else that could like prod conversation, watching the movie and maybe even pausing it because so often you get these audio commentaries where like, I wish they had more time to like go through the ads anecdotes. Like make it a six hour sit down between the two of them and someone else. I'm talking a $300 box set. People would be plopping them down on PayPal credit. You know? I agree. I would too. I'm not sure if you're going to get a credit card. It's just for this box. Okey-dokey. Danny, what's first on your list? First for me would be, it's kind of a giant net, but the cast in this always, at least in this one, I'm always surprised on how good Carrie and Harrison and Mark kind of are together. I think for three relatively unknown, I mean, Mark was definitely and Harrison had barely done anything and Carrie as well, but it just, it felt, they still feel like a magical combination of three of them in this film. The chemistry between, I mean, Carrie is doing so much heavy lifting, I think, with her, her banter and her interactions with Han and her frustrations with him, I think they're hilarious. And she just really, she just kills it in this film. And whiny Mark, I love whiny teenage Mark. It's just, he plays that the angsty teen wanting to just get out of his house so well. He's pubing out so hard in this movie. Oh, I don't know what that means, but yes. I don't know what that means. I don't want to look up pubing out. But yeah, I just, I really love it. And Harrison is just like the old man, not that old, but he just, he just feels good in this film. There's just something about the three of them in this that I don't know if, I mean, they are, I mean, empire is fantastic. And so is Jedi, but there's something about the three of them starting off in this film that I just find quite magical every time I watch it. No more, it really hit for me at the end where they celebrate blowing up the Death Star and they find each other and they hug and they're so excited. And I was like, Oh my God, this is like, this is the trilogy, like right here with the three of them. And then I thought to force awakens and I had, I was like, Oh yeah, and everyone can complain about how it's the same thing, whatever retread, but like they did it again. Like with the three of those characters and force awakens. I couldn't believe how well they casted that one, but it all started with this one and it really just hit home in that moment at the end of the movie where it just like came full circle. It was like, Oh yeah, they're all so good together in those. Yeah, I was really struck by Carrie Fisher this time and watching the Empire of Dreams and seeing the auditions that took place and just seeing these other line readings from these other actresses of just, and Carrie just stands out so much. And I even think of like other science fiction movies or fantasy movies where they might have like a young woman in this role. I can't think of another movie where the character is like this commanding female voice from the get go, like just the way she carries herself, the way she presents the character is so compelling and like different than, I don't know, just I think a different approach in the way that it was, you know, it was written that way and that for all the characters that they were able to find these actors who just feel so natural to the role. Yeah, and the commentary listened to he talks about how difficult it was to find someone with like that commanding presence to be confident to like be to convey that they could be a senator but also young and the speaking voice that she needed for that role and how difficult that was. It was cool to hear his perspective on all the intangibles that that actor needed and she had it. It was also interesting to hear Carrie talk about Harrison and she even alludes into the commentary about how she was jealous of the fact that he could like almost ad lib or suggest new lines. And she was like, I also want to be able to do that. And she was like trying to learn how he did that and had that relationship with the director so that she could do the same thing because right isn't she essentially like one of the most famous kind of like script doctors, Carrie Fisher. Yeah, she was only 20 at this point, which is wild. There is an interesting line that I didn't really have time to Google where she talks about their relationship in real life with three of them. And she like alludes to a relationship with Harrison, but she like talks about how she kept them separate, like that she maintained a relationship for like friendship relationship, maybe more with Harrison and like her friendship with Mark were separate. And I think she even said like and never was the line and never in twain they shall meet whatever that line is. I don't know. I don't know. It was just like some fascinating allusions to their interpersonal relationships at the time that I'd love to hear more about. Mm. Pertile, what's on your list? On my list. So we did Interstellar a couple weeks ago. And on that, Slim, you asked the question, is the Interstellar score the best science fiction score of all time? And I don't feel comfortable saying that one is the best, but I watch this and this is above things. I mean, this score. Like, when you like when you hear this movie, the score is insane. And I, you know, I'm not a musician. I'm like a duller when it comes to it. So I can't really speak to it. But just all the different pieces, how it feels like every single moment in this movie has a connecting piece to the score is just incredible between all the characters, you know, Luke on Tatooine with the sunset, the Imperial March, like all how it all comes together and shares a sound, but is also so like vastly different at the same time is is just incredible. I just like blown away listening to this again. There's, there's not a time when I watch this film and Luke walks out of his home and the score is ramping up to the binary sunset scene when he's walking out to look at it. There's not a time when I don't get the chills watching that scene. The score is, it's, it's, it's, it's incredible on that moment, combining with the visuals. That and Leia's theme, Leia's theme is, is top tier one of the best, one of the best things that John wrote. Her theme is incredibly gorgeous and it's perfect for her. It's crazy to look back on something that is like so influential in so many areas of like expertise and it's like every aspect of this movie, the people who worked on it went on to become like legends, which is wild. My turn. Number two, I'm so sick of living in a world where we don't have new Luke Skywalker stories. I'm sick of it and I won't stand for it anymore. Okay. Get your bad batch out of my face and give me Luke Skywalker adventures. Make it animated. Make it whatever. Okay. You're sitting on a gendy gold mine. Make it come out after you make me pay $500 for a 4k set at the original theatrical trailer for movies. I mean, I want more Luke. How is this character not being mined to death? Like it's just there's like nothing with Luke. How crazy is that? Right? I don't know. I want more. Give me more. Now. So I completely agree with you. Luke is my favorite character in all of all of Star Wars. I love Luke and I mean it comes to a head at Jedi for me, but I can't imagine the. The amount of material we could pull from Luke's story just even post Jedi like just more of him continuing. I know we had like we had some good comics that actually just kind of were only coming out just to lead into force awakens, but I just it just baffles me that we haven't had more Luke. I mean, I don't even care. I mean, I love Mark, but I don't I I wouldn't care that if Mark's involved or not. Get him out of here. No, get him out. If we need to move him out of the way to get more Luke, then let's do it. I mean, yes, if I don't think he's a roadblock for getting more Luke, especially if we do younger Luke stuff, let's get the dome out of here. Let's just cast somebody and let's move on. We don't need to do deaging stuff. Just give us a new Luke actor. That's that's going to give us more stories. I would love even if it's just an eight episode mini series on Disney Plus. I mean, this keep it simple. God. And then we go from there. I mean, give me more Luke, please. The last time they gave us more Luke, though, we were all weeping. You're right. Okay. You're right. I was weeping. It was clean up on aisle nine across the country when Luke came back. I mean, the the canon explanation of what Luke is doing after Jedi for like for years is searching for Jedi artifacts. And that's that's the move. That's what you need. Don't need anything else. What more do you need? Build an entire thing from that. It's so cool. There's a thousand stories in that. I mean, that and even just him, him and Leia training leading up to her giving birth to Ben. I mean, please, it's there. The bones of the story are there. Just give it to us. Please. Kennedy has been rumored to be a listener of ours for many years. Kathleen, you've heard the pitch. You can come on the show too. Come on the show at any point to discuss this. Ghost of Anakin leads Luke to a planet that he visited. Oh, gosh. To retrieve an artifact. Oh, yeah. Can you imagine? It's right there. It's right there. Danny, what's your number two? Number two. For me, one of the most standout for this movie. I mean, I thought I actually thought about it more watching the 4K77 is the construction of this film, the practical sets, the models, the aliens, the cantina scene, like everything that involved something to be handmade. It just this movie oozes it. I mean, we were creating new cinema with this film. It's just like if Star Wars, if this movie didn't exist, what does the landscape for the cinema look like in the 80s after this? It's all John Wick movies. It's all we have. But it's insane to me. I mean, you watch the 4K, the despecialized, and all of the CG is kind of sucked out of it. And you're back to bare bones, Star Wars, and it's perfect. It's something to look at. I mean, there's always a draw to seeing something that's handmade that you know someone has. Not that CG animators aren't pouring blood, sweat, and tears into it, but there is something to like a physicality of seeing something handmade in person that is in film. And it's just there's something about it. That's incredible. And for me, the New Hope is like that movie. I mean, I know Jedi and Empire are also quite models and props and stuff, but there's something about New Hope that just screams it for me. And I love it so much. I mean, there's so much, I want to touch it. I want to be in it. I don't think any other movie does that to me but New Hope. Right. I was going to say, I think we had the same kind of thoughts about the indoor kind of like getting close to that realistic nature of the universe. And there was obviously CG in there, but the way they approached it almost felt like a little more old school than what we'd seen recently. Yeah, every set in this looks incredible. Like it all looks lived in and real. I've always been struck by the scene near the beginning, the conference scene with Tarkin and the other officers and Vader comes in, just like even that set, it just looks incredible. Like every single detail, I was going to bring this up. Even these schematics that are shown for the tractor beam and the schematic for the Death Star, those details, I mean, there's so many tiny, small details. You mentioned the cantina scene. The cantina scene is like a painting. The lighting in there is incredible, just every part about it. From beginning to end, this movie really blew you away with how good it looks. I mean, the matte paintings too are just incredible. Like even how do you do all this that they did really? We watched the documentaries about it and it's still on that. You see it, it still is mind-blowing. We still don't know. And that's the best thing about watching. I mean, every movie deserves this kind of treatment of documentary, but Empire of Dreams. And even just watching the Light and Magic, I mean, they don't even know how to do it. And they're figuring it out and making it for an actual theatrical movie. They're just learning it on the go and it's so impressive. Yeah. Mirren was talking about the way that they lit the lightsaber and the technical. Oh, what do you say? They did this and he's like, well, it's quite, it's a simple technical thing. We animated the lightsaber on another cell and then we amplify them. I'm just like sitting there like, oh, Mirren, oh yeah. I have no idea what you're saying right now, but it's not the easiest thing in history. So they animated every individual frame of the lightsaber and then added things to those frames to make it look like hotter and shinier and stuff. So cool. I feel like I need to go back and rewatch the ILM documentary again after this, after having watched it. Yeah, the scenes in the meeting rooms were so cool. Hearing the one dude talk about like Vader's dedication to the ancient religion. All that stuff is so cool. Like even just seeing Vader in like a new Hope costume Vader is kind of like poor man's Vader in this one. But it's so cool. It's like lived in. He's not as shiny. He's kind of like beaten up a bit. And I was just cracking myself up that he has like buttons that presumably control his breathing on his chest. Like, let's hide those buttons. I'll turn them all next time. It also is amazing to see. I mean, the Disney, the Disney plus 4k is incredible. It's incredible. I mean, the, the, the clarity and to see Dave Prowse's eyes through the Red lenses of Vader always crack me up. It's amazing. It just, it just kind of sucks a little bit of the villainous air about him out and seeing all the imperfections of that suit in the 4k. Like I don't even want it cleaned up. Like I don't want a perfect suit. I want to see these scratches and dents and, you know, stuff that we would never have seen until the 4k released. Yeah, there was some, there's like a Q and A of the team that put together the 4k 77 version. And they talk about how like the sand scenes, you know, are kind of like blown out. Like this is, this is just how people saw it in theaters. Like this is a true representation of how it was in theaters in 1977. It's not like we're going to clean this up so good that it's going to be pure and extremely visible. Like it looks like a 1977 print pretty much that you're, that you're watching for those outdoor scenes. It's, it's wild. I think the one thing that I always shocks me to see in 4k is 3p. He looks insane in 4k. I still can't get over how human is in that suit. I don't like the name. Okay. We used like 60 pounds soaking wet somehow to fit in there. Prado, your number two? My number two, I, in the Empire of Dreams, I think they talk about showing an early cut. And I think Steven Spielberg mentions it and how it was like pretty rough in terms of editing. And then correct me if I'm wrong. When they say like they go back and like re-edit the whole thing. For New Hope? For Phantom Menace. Yeah. I think, I think, no, no, for a new hope. I don't know. I think that was in Empire of Dreams. They're saying that or just that it was, it was rough that the first cut of it. But really by the end of it, like I think the editing feels so amazing in this and just the way that the movie moves through the story, how it, you know, it looks incredible. But then it never lingers to maybe look, like just open them up to like a silly looking scene. I love the cut at the beginning when the sand people get Luke. And when he gets attacked, it then just cuts to the canyon and you hear the sand people yelling instead of showing Luke getting captured or like bonked on the head by a baton or whatever. So even things like that, just like the way the movie moves and it's so snappy. Like this movie just flies by as you're watching it from scene to scene. I love that part of it. Yeah. One of the call outs that I thought on this viewing was just how odd it starts with the droids. I just like didn't really hit me this like on this viewing. We're talking about the editing, but like you're following the droids for the first like 30 minutes and even I think even George like so I thought that while I was watching it. And then I listened to the director's commentary and he says it's like a literally a direct reference to Kurosawa's hidden fortress with that follows two non important characters to start that movie. So I know Kurosawa has like been connected with Lucas, but that was the first time that it was like kind of obviously a lift or no mosh like oh yeah, this is hidden fortress one of my favorite movies and I don't know that. But I thought that was so cool to hear him like talk about those scenes because even he said it's like this is kind of a weird choice to start this movie off with droids for 30 minutes. And he did talk about that a lot about how like he did get pushback on so many things and you know the episode four crawl and the title was one of those things that he eventually like gave into he removed it or he didn't do it for the theatrical release. But just so many things like the idea that he would have released this movie with episode four in the crawl is so insane to me. Yeah. So in 1977 are you insane? Like who's going to understand what you're trying to do slow down like he that's how far ahead he was. I don't even know if it's a good idea to do it today. Like if you were starting a franchise, but like it's so wild, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, well, what sense would it make if there was a new series and it was just like the fourth even like knowing this the context it just feels so bizarre. Yeah, it's like starting a movie and calling it part two. I mean, do Dune can't even do it. Do it right and it's the first movie in the series. Right. He came to a river for you to say Marsha Lucas, George's ex wife, then wife was the editor of this film and she won the Academy Award for editing for this movie. So big time stuff. I haven't called it. I mean, Marsha on the same page. My final point will be I guess it's back to Luke. Sorry. But I loved Luke's like yearning for getting off the planet and wanting to go to school, join the rebellion and you referenced the scene where he just like goes out and just looks at the, you know, the sun sunrise, sunset, whatever. But like his reaction to Obi Wan Kenobi, giving him the opportunity to leave and like go to Aldoran and he's like, I don't know. I got responsibilities here. Yeah. Like I want to go, but I can't go. I thought that was like the realest thing I've ever seen in Star Wars. Like this kid, like really struggling with that decision. That's your uncle. And then him like going to see that them been burned alive and he's just kind of thrust into that. I thought the Luke stuff in this and like, yes, I harp on him being a whiny baby. But like we're talking to me, he's like a teenager and even at that point, he's like struggling with the idea of like, I could leave, but I can't yet. I made promises to my family. So I love that stuff in this feeling personally. I'm trying to think of what else about Luke. That was great. I mean, it always is funny to me how, I mean, yes, after his uncle and uncle who I would argue, I don't know another maybe Anakin. No one else had a worse death and all of Star Wars than Baru and Lars. Barbeque or Uncle Owen. They got incinerated. Of course, scissor. How was this not an all rated movie with those corpses? No one had a worse death than Star Wars than those two. I always love how Luke or yeah, Luke gets so frustrated with Han at the end of this with his wanting to just not just ignore what's going on in the galaxy. Just get his money and run. I love the conversation right before they attack the Death Star and I'm I chuckle every time when Han says, may the force be with you because it feels like a troll. It feels like such a like a jab at Luke as well for some reason. But yeah, there's some good moments with Luke. Also like the one thing I like slap my forehead is when Han was saying how the force is just like made up. Mumbo jumbo. Like I had not watched a new hope probably since I was a kid. So like him saying that in the trailers, how it's real. All of it didn't hit with me at the time, but now I'm like, oh, the idiot. He said it in the first movie. He didn't think it was real. Yeah. I like how that tramps his over to Indiana Jones too. Towards religion. The one thing too, I didn't bring up, but I tried to watch a VHS I have of a new hope and it has an interview with Leonard Molten and George George's hair. I need someone to give this the like get back 4k upscale. I need to see this man's hair in 4k. It is wild, but I ended up so that release was the like, this is the last time you'll be able to watch the original theatrical, but it had the scroll. It had a new hope in it. And then I was like, wait a minute, scroll is in the VHS original release. So I had I googled and it had said that they added the new hope thing in a in a 1981 theatrical rerelease and it just stayed there ever since. Danny. Final point. I think one of my favorite moments in this is the final attack on the Death Star. I love I love wedge and bigs and pork ins and I love that whole segment with the pilots. The trench run is always it's just iconic and it looks incredible. I get the chills when you hear Obi telling the turn to just the cheesiest stuff, but whatever I get the chills use the force. But when they've reacted to the fact that he's turning off his targeting, it's just and the music swells a bit and it just it's just so good. Use the force, Luke. Let go, Luke. What is strong? Luke, trust me. His computer is off. Luke, you switched off your targeting computer. What's wrong? Nothing. I'm all right. It's just that the attack on the Death Star is so much fun and then Han comes in. It just gets me. It gets me every time. I love that moment. I think in the specialized version, that's the scene that sticks out the most to me and I wonder if that's what bothered George the most because when watching that with the added X-Wing footage of them just like flying in and all that that's shown in that version, I can see like George messages like been clenching his fist with the original version. There's so much I wanted to have in here. The Arthur best. You just didn't have the time or money. Because it really does add to it, I think, in a cool way because it's just a cool scene and now I can't stop thinking of like what if like in an alternate universe George went back and remade a new home? Oh my God. Like with unlimited money. It's like to do it the way he wanted to. Remember how like on board we were with him when we watched? Is it a Phantom Manus or the second one? But remember we were like, we agreed he was so far ahead of his time in making those movies with green screen and everything. He was beyond anyone else that was making films with that kind of special effect. It was nuts. The idea of George. I mean, yeah, just to have the money to have made New Hope the way he wanted right off the bat, it's kind of interesting to think about. I'm not even going to bother dream casting. Dream casting. What I would say for that for that production. You already know. Berto final point. Yeah, I was going to bring up the Death Star too. I also I love the another line in Empire of Dreams where they're just talking about the script and how some of the lines just sounded so strange. I don't think any of it doesn't work though, like watching this, but there are some peculiar lines, but I just like love them all. I love especially the Alec Guinness lines. You won't find a more wretched hive of some and villainy. Like there's just so many iconic lines that when you pull them out of this movie, they do sound weird. It sounds so like formal in the way that they're written, but the way that they're read, it just it just works. There's just so much about this movie that I love, you know, and so it's so interesting in that way. For me, it's the deliver it. Tarkin's deliveries. I think I think Tarkin, he's incredible in this film and him, the banter back and forth with him and Leia before he blows up alderaan. I think it's it's so well done and it's and I love that it's Vader just standing there quiet while Tarkin just does everything. Was he referred to as a governor in the movie, Governor Tarkin? I always thought he was like Grand Moff because Lucas in the in the commentary calls him Governor Tarkin and he never calls him Grand Moff. I don't think he's grand. Oh, Leia calls him that. Yeah, Leia calls him Governor Tarkin. Okay. Faust, Anch, etc. Gosh, she's really hamming it up in that delivery. Oh, yeah, she's getting it. She's. Foul, Stench. She does live with another accent. She sasses Tarkin and Vader back to back. It's very bold of her. Vader? Yeah. Intimidating what Vader be. You say he's not. True. I did say that. Yeah, the Rogue One episode. Oh my God. If anyone wants to hear just peak proto, go back to our Rogue One episode where he describes Vader in that movie. Oh my God. Another Tarkin shot I love is at the end where they get the torpedoes in and then it cuts to the hand on the, and then it cuts to Tarkin just like waiting and then the planet blows up. That editing on that scene is so good. Retreat in our moment of triumph. One thing I'd liked in the Marvel comics that had come out for Force Awakens was it shows the kind of backstory on, I think it's like the aftermath of a new hope, I guess, with like Vader and the Emperor Palpatine's relationship, like, and how it was viewed as like a giant failure for Vader that the Death Star was destroyed. He took the brunt of the, of that failure in the comics. Those are cool moments. Onward mentions for me, Leia's looks, I mean, on that first shot with a gun, she has that gun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's like, you've seen them that's still everywhere. Three P.O. Yelling. Over here. I'm just chuckling at myself when I'm watching them. How about the robots taking an oil bath? What does that even do? Bless the maker. Just gets dipped into this giant vat of oil and he's like, good. Every home has to have one. The Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace. Yeah, I thought it was hilarious. They were like Obi-Wan says he was a Jedi. I was a Jedi Knight the same as your father and doesn't even react to that sentence. That was funny funny. Obi-Wan Kenobi. The way he says his own name. Can you imagine having your own planet destroyed? How is Leia even able to operate? Her planet has been destroyed. How are you not in crippling grief for the rest of your life, right? It has to be like complete and utter shock. Like you don't know how to react. Like it almost feels like, was that real? She's become a toast for the rest of this movie. She needs to be laying down on a couch like unable to stand because billions of heart rate are dead. But she takes the time to console Luke when the guy he's only known for three hours gets killed by Vader and is still talking to him in his dreams. You know, we could so take. I just lost billions. I lost everybody. Your freaky old wizard is dead. So what's good? It's a good thing he's still talking to you too. So technically still alive or whatever. How about her offering up Dantuene? Don't blow that one up. Here's a bet. I live with that too. Oh my God. The Wolf man in the cantina was cool. Oh, you only watched 4K 77. Yeah. I didn't watch in. Yeah, I figured he was going. Also isn't there like a guy that looks like the devil that was probably removed too. I don't know if he was removed actually. Yeah, I only watched the OG 1977 theatrical. One dude looked like he had balls for a face in the cantina. Okay. Yes. That one. Okay. That guy isn't in the special dish. Okay. I remember him. Vader is saying how like your planet destroying weapon pails in comparison to the powers of the dark side. Okay. All right, there. This is pretty strong though. I can just annihilate billions. I love sandtroopers as a kid. The sandtrooper toy. Oh my God. They were super. The suit backs. The Luke dressed as a stormtrooper toy. Amazing. I remember getting this was like one of my big purchases. I saved out my money. I went to comics A to Z in Huntington Valley. What a great word. I think the Rita's water ice is now proto. Actually, now you're on it. I have no idea where that is. Thank you. But I got the return of the Jedi Luke, the black cloak. Yes. He came with like a plastic cloak over him so he's wearing all black. But if you have anyone has had this toy, Luke is wearing high heels on that toy. He's wearing he if anyone can look up the Kenner, whoever had the rights to the return of the Jedi special edition, his boots. It's like a half inch lift on the bottom of his bitch. And I don't know how old I was at the time, but I was like, I just spent all my money on this Luke Skywalker figure and he's wearing high heels. I couldn't believe it. I was destroyed as a kid. I think I made him even saw it off his heels. So it looked like his feet were just like pointing downward. Wow. Vader in a tie fighter is like the coolest thing ever. He looks incredible. Oh my God. The lighting in that tie. So cool. And he turns his head and says, what? Yeah, McFly, the 90s one is the one I'm talking about. Yeah, I had a great time watching the theatrical version. I'd never seen it before. I wanted to see what the fuss was about. There's no reason in my mind that this shouldn't exist for regular people to watch. You know, I again, just put it out. Many people watch it. Lucas has no right to stop it anymore. So, but I had more fun than I thought I would because I've been a proponent of saying that like, I knew hope was like the worst one or whatever. Some of that was totally, but so I've had four and a half stars for Star Wars, 1977. Oof. God bless. God bless. I have two more things to bring up that I didn't fit into conversation. One, we didn't talk about Han shooting first. That's a big deal for this. This era of Star Wars, I always find George's reasoning and the editing for all these different. There's like, I think there was, there's like four or five different, maybe just four different incarnations of this Han shooting first nonsense. It is baffling to me that it was, it was a big enough deal to George to change this scene. And that there was so many different ways it was changed. There was Han shooting first and then Greedo shooting first and then Han and Greedo shooting at the same time. And then Greedo barely shooting before Han. It's insane to me because neither version change how I feel about Han or Greedo. I feel like, I feel like his reasoning was it was only to change that Han wasn't some called blooded killer, if what I remember correctly. But it's like, I don't feel any different towards Han whether he shot first or not. This is a made up world and people are killing each other with laser swords. Especially because Greedo says he's going to kill him right there in front of him. So it kind of like, yeah, I had never really, I've always heard Han shot first. You hear that, but I didn't never really fully understood it. It's still recently, it's like, what's the deal with this? And then the Jabba scene, the Jabba scene I feel like is the most outside of Han. I feel like that Jabba scene is talked about. And what I find interesting about it is because there's, you can find the deleted scene of, it's technically not a deleted scene, it's just a not used scene of the actual actor human playing Jabba interacting with Han that George didn't like because he always meant to have a stop motion Jabba put in over that scene. And then instead of, and then they couldn't do it in time. So they just cut the scene completely and then they put it back in with a 1997 version of CGI Jabba. It's pretty rough. It's a rough scene. But I can't imagine, I can't, that was so jarring to watch 4K77 and not have it. I'm so used to that scene and the conversation that Harrison has with Jabba. And one thing I didn't realize until just recently that Boba Fett's appearance in that wasn't any part of being filmed. Like it was a completely blue screen added in moment for that, which I found completely wild after the fact that after Empire when Boba became famous that they added him in like he was just somewhere in New Hope. I always found that interesting as well. I remember the news stories about the special issue and the work that was being put in. It might as well have been a new Star Wars movie. Yeah. That's how like all the work was promoted. And they're like, yeah, in a new scene with Jabba the Hutt and how are they going to fix this? Han walks around Jabba. He took this out and just like the frames of Han jumping up over the tail. And didn't he redo the Jabba scene twice? Like he added in Jabba and then he redid it for the Blu-ray. Yeah. Check this out. But anyway, I just find it fascinating. For me, if you come to me and say, what's the best Star Wars movie? It's this movie. It's not my favorite. But if I'm going to point someone to the best Star Wars movie, it's a new hope. It's where you start. It's the perfect introduction to all these characters, to the world, to the story. It's the best. Star Wars is the best Star Wars movie. And that's just kind of how it is. This is five stars all day long. Big juicy heart and letter box. I mean, I love this movie. I'm over here. Why did the best Star use tractor beams that just pull all the fighters into the Death Star? Were the tractor beams still down when they came to attack it? I thought it was still down. Wow. They couldn't get somebody back there. No. Turn them back on. How about even Luke and Leia being terrible with a blaster? That one scene where they were like, they did like the swing, the flash coordinate or whatever swing. There's 10 minutes of shooting and nobody hit anything. It's tough. There were so many shots where the laser looks like it goes like four feet away from the target and they still fall down as if they're getting hit. I love that. One thing I noticed is that in the scene with Tarkin and Vader in the conference room, you can see Vader still moving his hand as if he's saying words, but the dialogue had already stopped. I thought it was interesting watching it this time, just seeing that Luke eventually goes the same way as it will be one, like giving himself up. It's kind of interesting. I never like made that connection. Luke in the orange jumpsuit. Iconic. God. Yeah. Just an incredible look. Remember the makeup? I mean, so many looks. Remember the makeup he had on in the holiday special? Holy cow. He caked on, caked on his face. Yeah. I loved watching this again. I loved both versions as well. I think it's fascinating that they exist in this way. George, if you want to do a third try, I'm all ears. But yeah, five stars. It's a classic. It's a classic. Wow. Wow. Wow. What if George came back and did an eight episode Luke series for this? Oh my God. God. God. God. I would cry. He pulls out the notebook from the seven. He's not ever written since the seventies. You know he has. The will of the will wisps or whatever the original treatment was. No, but. Oh, we haven't even, I'm actually pretty proud of ourselves for not talking about. Say it. Lay and Luke having the hots for each other. Who cares? Did he, it's hard for me to parse like what he actually had written down and planned. Was it really planned that they be brother and sister when they filmed this movie? Do you think they did he put that together and he really knew. George need to calm down with siblings. Getting close. You never kiss your sister like that. Well, even that is like drawing from classic literature. I think of like Greek tales like it's very much you kiss your sister. You kiss your mom kind of thing. Wait, what? He does talk about that too in the, I mean he probably did in the documentary about how like how much classic literature he pulled upon and all that stuff. Okey dokey. Let's get into some VMs and some letters. You can leave us one at 70 mm and pod at gmail.com. Throw a little voice memo to go. Casey and chat. Remember Jimmy Stewart kissing his mom and it's a wonderful life. It was a clear homage to Star Wars. Listen, I'm just saying it's different in Star Wars because Luke in a certain point thinks I could get with her. I might have the hot spot. There's a whole conversation about him and Han. Yeah. And then an empire, you know, you know what happens on the lips. We don't need to get into it. We did. The way Han sees it. Four years ago I had seen. He does. Guy like me in a princess like her. All right, so we have some VMs to get to one of which I was I got the old. Sorry. It's so long VM message. Classic. Classic. You're not sorry. We're sorry. 90 seconds or less is the goal, folks. But let's dig in. I think this might be from Ben. Hey guys, it's your pal Ben aka no so no problem. I have recorded a voice mail, but it ended up being like five minutes long. So I'm just going to drop in the important bit and here it is. Star Wars as a whole means I'm sure I'm sure like a lot of folks in the village. Star Wars means a lot. It is a cornerstone of who I am. I remember growing up and really wanting to watch it. But for some reason, thought it was too scary for me and I hid the special edition VHS's under my bed because the slip cover had a picture of Darth Vader and my child brain said no too scary until I finally opened it up and decided to dive in and was completely enamored. You guys have I'm sure talked about this movie plenty already, so I won't get into a bunch of the details. But I wanted you guys to know Star Wars and New Hope specifically, it might be a contrary opinion, but it is my favorite Star Wars movie. Now I am going to say it is my favorite movie of all time. It means what it means so much to me and I can watch this movie anytime and never get tired of it. I remember my dad saying that he watched it seven times in the theater when it only turned out and it reminds me of my dad who last month passed away and I think it is something that in hindsight is a movie that draws me even closer to him as he's gone. So I don't mean to be a bummer, but I wanted you guys to know that I really appreciate you covering this movie at this time in my life. I greatly appreciate you guys and thank you for covering my favorite movie of all time. Love you guys. There's nothing there's nothing there's no downer about loving your father Ben. We're here for you unless they're Darth Vader. Well, we know what happens. Unless he wants to kill you. George does it again bringing people together. Luke, make sure it speaks bachie. You know one of my favorite sound effects in the movie is when she's like burned alive. But she's making whatever with the cabbage, the sound of that machine? I love the sound of that machine. She's wearing like a legit Jean jacket jacket. I love your bro. It's absolutely. I love it. Okay. Next VM from Sean. What up 70 millimeter? This is Sean from Colorado, aka Sean in Maine here with Levy as well. I know it's been a long time since you guys have heard from us. Things have been super busy in our lives since moving from Colorado to Maine. Got married, which is huge. That's really my name. I want to just let you guys know real quick. We're off on another adventure. We are actually now moving from Maine over to Rochester, New York. Hey. I got a new gig working with my company at T-Mobile going to go open up a new area. So we are heading that way this upcoming weekend. So we'll definitely be catching up on the podcast and see how everybody's been doing. You guys take it easy and we miss you, fam. You guys, see you later. See you. Congrats. Sean from Colorado from Maine from Rochester. Yeah. Well, I think the last time I can send you is. Well, last time we heard from Sean from Colorado is when he announced that they were moving to another state. So I feel like the next time we'll hear from Sean is when they're leaving Rochester. I mean, what does that say about Maine? You do the math. Yeah. That's rough. It's cold winters up there. I don't blame them. Next VM. You're pooping in a wooden shed. I'm sorry. Are we moved out? I can't. I just wanted to say brown winter, but I can't. It's just one more season. Look, it's going to be brown winter soon. Next VM. Hey guys, this is Andrew Dutch in the discord for those of you in the village. And I just wanted to call in and share some thoughts on Star Wars. And by that, I mean a quick rundown of each host and which version of Star Wars, a new hope. I think they are. Oh, Danny is the original theatrical version. Oh, it's visionary. It's innovative and it's world changing. And it's loved by all Star Wars fans. I don't know if I like where this is going. Oh, my God. Thank you. Is the Disney Plus edition. George Lucas's master cut that he somehow still sees as a work in progress. It's updated. Some say it's even improved. Also loved by fans and it's what everyone is watching. Okay. Okay. Okay. Proto is the 4K despecialized edition. It was a bit of a community project. A little bit extreme. It's kind of hard to find. It's also a beautiful 4K restoration of the original content. It's pure Star Wars. If you can find it and not also download a computer virus. But yeah, that's it. That's all I got. Thanks for the podcast. Can't wait to see Danny's art. I think he just said Proto is a better version of me. So it comes down to me all harder. I can't wait to see the art either, to be honest. Part of my both. It's unbelievable. Everyone's looking at it right now. Listen to this episode. You're seeing it. We haven't seen it. Okay. I'm about that picture to lay it in chat for Brown Winter. I'm afraid to click on that. It's not a pro. He's got a timeout Daniel. This is about. Okay. Last letter comes from Will. Latt dad in the discord. Sub decline Star Wars episode. Hey there, Danny, Proto and Slim based on many of the villager letter box reviews. I've seen coming in for Star Wars episode four, A New Hope, as well as some other comments and opinions I've seen shared in the discord. I just wanted to preemptively express my solidarity with whichever hosts, but most likely Danny, share this view. People need to chill out with the special editions. Just enjoy the movie. I promise you'll be fine. Whatever version you watch. That's all I'm going to say. Can't wait for the episode. Love you guys. Latt dad. I completely agree with him. You know what? Another reason like I don't part to me doesn't want a 4k release of the original. I don't want the conversation again. I don't want to talk about anymore of what George did with the special editions. I don't care. I feel like the internet, the goons online will just drag George again for the special the prequels and the special editions. And I'm not tired of that conversation. There's a Star Wars out there for everybody. There's nine films, there's different versions. Find what you like, watch it, love it, and just let people do what they want. The Star Wars goons. If you're listening right now, and you just cold your ass out. If you're a goon, stop goonin'. Stop goonin'. Check yourself in. Seize the goonery. Please. We all want it. You can DM me. Some goonery. We'll chat offline. Okay. Next. We'll have a private DM. As we mentioned before, it is May the 4th. We announced the whole slate of movies. So if you listen to the episodes, you already know what's coming next week. What is coming, I forgot. I did forget as well, but I had to check our Letterbox list. You can follow 70MM, follow it on Letterbox. We don't do a whole lot on there. I maintain a list. I share links. Should we do more? Every couple of months, Pertle posts something on there. The zest comes back. Oh, what? Yeah. We supposed to like review this on there. The Pro- The Dust. Next week, we're going to be doing Rocky 4. Oh, my gosh. Sly. This is streaming on Netflix as of recording. It's also on what the hell is AMC+, I don't know what that is. Stubs. It might also be on Prime maybe. So anyway, it's on Netflix. Also on Prime. This is directed by Sly Storm, Pertle. Oh, is it? Wow. Is this his first? Are you ready for this? I'm excited for this. How many films is he directed? Oh, well, he did. Expendables. Rambo, Stang Alive, Rocky Balboa. Paradise Alley, Rocky 3. Oh, the new release. Wait a minute. He directed Rocky 2 and 3. What the hell? 2, 3, 4. I mean, no, this is like this is breaking news. People didn't know this? We're breaking this now. Any who I see Drawgo in this description, I think this is also one. Somebody hit me up on Twitter and maybe the official Instagram account. What version we're doing? We can't escape it. There's versions? There's like a Stallone cut. Maybe you re-specialized Rocky 4? So we'll get into it next week, but as of right now, I'm just going to watch the one that's on Netflix. I'm not going to do any legwork for this one. That flux cut. 4K RK on the archive. Enough. So that's it. Pertle, any closing thoughts this week? Successful start to the month, I think. Yes, successful start from holy month smooth transition into the fourth movie in a series wild. Can't believe we didn't pivot. We had time, but here we are. Rocky 4, Netflix 1985, Sylvester Stallone. 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