The Truman Show (1998)

Hey, it's Earl Powell Slim and this is 70mm of podcast for film lovers just like you. Every Monday, I chat about recently watched movies with my close friend and artist, Danny Hoss. You gotta go back to Oratom. And our close friend and movie insider, Protolexus. Well, one thing, I thought our last episode, last black man in San Francisco was great. Other than the fact that I said, like, maybe 10,000 times. Every month, we have a new theme that guides our main discussion later in the show and this time, it's Proto-Pendence. And that means he gives us a theme at the start of each show with options and then we choose the next movie. Last week, I chose the Letterbox Top 250 and the Truman Show. And you can use the chapters to skip right to that discussion if you want. Did Jim Carey have the best agent in movie history? How much damage did reality TV do to our society? Let's find out together. How about I start, Slim? We have to talk about it. Right ahead. We have to talk about the elephant in the room, okay? The strike. We are removed a few days removed and we have to know your thoughts on the wonka trailer. I didn't say this in our discord. I said this elsewhere, but honestly, the trailer looks catastrophic. This could be the end of all things. It's a whole no. I don't know. I think it's supposed to be a musical. Did you know that? No. I don't care. I think it might be a musical. I'm glad you kept going with that bit. I really want to talk about your red carpet experience with mission impossible, dead reckoning with our dear friends at Letterbox. My God. Where's your night? Where'd it even begin? Where'd you nervous? You had to have been nervous. Where to even begin. Letterboxed, where I work, disclaimer, covered the red carpet in New York City for dead reckoning from here. We weren't even sure if it was going to happen with this SAG strike business. Then they extended their deadline to, I guess, what the deadline was maybe today as a recording. So it essentially meant that the stars were going to walk the red carpet. So it was guaranteed that it was going to happen. This is my first red carpet interview experience. I'd filmed them before, but I'd never been the one asking the questions. Gosh. It was pretty crazy. The way it was inside, thank God, the whole thing was inside this theater in New York right now. Oh, steamy. Tell me. What's a steamy tip? I thought you said, what's the steamy tip and my brain shut off for a second. It's really hot. I don't recommend anyone going to New York and ride the subway in this weather, but it's like the real feel with humidity felt like 97 and you're walking around and slacks in New York. That's just as a no deal with the heat vibrating off of all that asphalt. Yeah. Right up toes shoes right up on you. So we had to I walked in there. They had like our set up. We had to find letterboxes name on a sticker on the floor. That's where you're setting up and it was tight quarters, really tight quarters. It was a good spot. We had a great spot because we actually weren't even sure what's direction they were going to start at, but we were like right next to where they were taking the photos. We're maybe like eight or nine in line from where they take the they take photos and then they start doing the questions with the press. Gosh. And when we got there, they told us that like you might have 60 seconds with Tom. Tom Cruise. I'm talking about Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise. God. I said that. Say that out loud. Sweat. And there was something else I was going to say. Oh, yeah. So like in our paper that they sent us, they're like Tom will start saying hello to people at 445. The talent will get there at 615. Geez. So Tom is there's like a fan section. There's like a they had like fan sections set up. So like he's he enters and he's like spending a minute three minutes with each person in these sections. Selfies. It's like what you see in those videos all the time. That's incredible. And like all the while like he starts getting nearer to us, but then I see like Chris McQuarrie shows up. He's taken photos and then he's like right at us. So it's like okay, it's happening. It's happening. I'll go more in depth on my Tom Cruise podcast, but there's a few things that I do want to bring up. Like we usually ask like the fun questions at these things. Like what are your four favorites? Just become like our thing at Letterbox where it's like the expectation is you'll ask these questions. And it's like fun to hear the recommendations from actors and directors and stuff. But we knew that Tom wasn't going to give us four faves. Like we had a prep meeting like what should we ask him because he's not going to give us four faves. Like if anyone does like any research on Tom Cruise, it's just he'll dance around your sorry ass. He's not going to give you like what he thinks are the best. So we thought that we had like an in that like what if we ask him, okay, the theatrical experience of the mission movies is like paramount. You know, you want to go see the big screen. When you look back, what are some memorable big screen experiences you've had? What was the first movie you saw as a kid? And then like if nobody said anything, like I would say like, you know, I remember the first movie I saw in theaters, it was the Ninja Turtles. And I remember going to see Star Wars being re-released. So that was like our test. That was going to be your door question. Yeah. You got to go back door with Tom. But we're talking about Tom Cruise here. He knew it. He knew it. He saw you. He saw you. I knew we were to getting nothing from him. No, like I knew it. But yeah, like so that's jumping over the fact that like I can see Tom like five feet for me. There was like a countdown. I was doing like, and I was sitting in like slack as I was like, Tom's five feet for me. Like he's almost here. And did he make eye contact with you? Is that what like initiated directly into Tom's eyes for three and a half minutes during this? Oh my god. And you touched. We did. So we shook hands. Oh my god. And I asked him that question. And he's doing his, his Tom cruisery like he's, he's tap dancing on my face with his answer. He's like, he's on autopilot. So then I had planned, you know, Mitchell and I had, at letterbox had talked about like how I can weasel in some other things. So I had planned a follow up that like with, depending on his answer, I would say, well, you know what? Experience I had Tom was seeing Vanilla Sky in theaters opening weekend in 2001. And I was like, so what is it about that movie that you think resonates with people after the years? So he gave this really great answer. Again, he's not giving like movie recommendations, which is really kind of like what we look for in those social clips. So it's not like really ideal social fodder. It was kind of like slim fodder, really. So then I see he's like, you know, at the end of his sense, he's like, you know, it means a lot to me that people still connect with my movies after all these years, especially with Vanilla Sky. And then I said, you know, what Tom means a lot to me too. And I shook his hand. And that was the end of the conversation. Oh my God. Yeah. It was amazing. Wow. Amazing. Unreal. Well, that's it, everybody. This is the last episode of the show. Oh, he did it. Oh, he did it. So all that to say is I, that screening that red carpet, like the press for that particular screening didn't go to the screening, you could like, there was a second level at this place where there was quote influencers, like social employers, some of which that I like recognize and knew, like Patrick Williams, who does the popular YouTube channel, he's on letterbox. I saw him floating about, I tried to get his attention, but I couldn't. So I think primarily the people that went to the screening were, it was, I'm not sure who else was there, but it wasn't like press. So after that, I went home and I went to go rewatch the movie in theaters this week. So, tentatively, the plan is, Dale has already seen dead reckoning part one, Jonesy. We got to get Jonesy. Jonesy's tentatively seeing it for potential recording. It all depends on Jonesy. He's not going to listen to this by the time he should have seen it, but we're going to be recording. We'll talk about Tom in depth on that show, interview with the podcast, man, fire, so beautiful. Lifetime achievement unlocked in New York, Skitty, City of Georgia. Back of Ferguson was there. Everybody. I know. Carrie L. Wiz. But one of the themes that I thought was so cool was, depending on who the person wasn't how much time I felt like I had with them, because they're like handler with like sometimes just like tell you to wrap up, like depending on if you got one or two questions. But like I would open with, are you familiar with letterbox? And maybe half of them stopped me and said, like, oh, letterbox, yeah, McEuse, always talking about letterbox. Yeah. Yeah. So really? So it's just so wild for me to like imagine the conversations that like McEuse has with the cast maybe in downtime about letterbox and like opening his phone, like, yeah, I can make a list. Here's my recommended movies. It's just so crazy that those things happen. I also didn't ask McEuse his forefaves because in interviews, he's he doesn't want to talk about his forefaves. He's the same way. He's not going to pin down. He's like, he's probably someone that would change his forefaves like every week. So he doesn't want to ever just give four. And I asked him the theater question. He couldn't name one movie. That was the first person I asked that I started be like, well, this theater question might be a bust. I might just have to pivot to the forefaves for everyone right away. Goodness gracious. So great experience. Where do we go from here? We should say hello to some new patrons, Josh, Jeremy, Samuel and Tom all joined this past week. We're almost near 400 patrons. What though? Yeah. You know, part of that feeler. Feels great. I can't believe there's four almost 400 people out there want to be our patrons humbling. But also very exciting and seeing new people join the discord all the time is great. Yeah. That's going to be the next watch along that happens in discord. The mission impossible once over, you know, they announced has our discord announced. Oh, no. Who's in charge of that? Who runs these things? I have no idea. There's silence in discord right now. No one wants to step up. So they got access to the VHS Village discord where those watch alongs happen. You know, maybe you're listening right now and your group of friends don't like talk about movies. This is your opportunity to find some like-minded friends. Those folks get access to discounts on Danny's prints as well. So a lot happening in there this week. There's a Oppenheimer's coming out soon and I saw Danny watch a movie that is like, is this an Oppenheimer prequel that you watched? It is the day after Trinity. Trinity? Yes. That's what it was called. It's from 1981 and it is a documentary on Oppenheimer. It's basically, I feel like what we're going to see in the movie, less dramatic. It's Oppenheimer being recruited to make the bomb, the testing of it, the after effects of it, the dropping of the two bombs and then going into his life a bit afterwards when they started working on the hydrogen bomb when he was revoked clearance from higher up conversations because he was against it, etc. And kind of to the end of his life, what was amazing about this documentary? So Criterion posted about it being on their channel now as like a lead up to Oppenheimer. You should watch this. And I don't think I've probably skimmed the name of Oppenheimer in school, but I think what was great about this documentary is there's so much footage, like there's so much footage of them working on the bomb. And even just him in classes, giving lectures and they interview people that worked with him. It's all footage and him talking and they're just, it's wild to see. And then it's wild to compare what we've seen so far of the trailer. And some of the shots from the trailer feel like it almost mirrors these exact shots. And there's moments when they're like cabling up the bomb to the top of that like pillar type thing. And it's like on one cable. And it's even stressful to watch it in this documentary and like the black and white grainy footage. So I can't imagine what it's going to be like dialed up to Christopher Nolan levels in the theater. But it's just, it was, I really loved it. I really loved it as a learning kind of tool and, and just to see all that footage of Oppenheimer talking. And there's a moment where they are like, whatever July something, 1945, a, a, a Pontiac sedan pulls up. And it's holding the entire, the entire amount of plutonium known in the world is in the back of this Pontiac sedan. And they're like the, the driver needed a receipt on delivery. And they're like the approximate value in 1945, this is $1 billion. In this back of a Rusty old Pontiac sedan that they show pull up, I was just shocked. So there's, there's a bunch of stuff like that. There's a bunch of stuff in that documentary. I would suggest watching it. It's not long. And it just, I really loved it. I really loved seeing Oppenheimer talk because I don't, I don't think I've ever seen any footage of him in real life speaking. I haven't, for sure. I don't know. Well, I mean, we've heard that clip of him reading, we've talking about the, the, the strive. Well, yeah, I am become death, the destroyer of the world, that, that there's a clip of him saying it's, it's a, I've never seen the video of him saying it. So it's the club heard so many times, but it was great. It was a great watch. I'm looking at the poster right now. And he, he looks like Sillian Murphy. Like he's. Uh, he's, uh, what's the opposite of D aged pre-aged? It looks like they pre-aged, uh, Sillian Murphy here on this. It's crazy. Yeah. I watched an interview with, with Killian about it and he was talking about how he was trying to mirror the way he stands, the pipe, the hat that he wore, whatever they called it, the duster or something. And there was a specific way Oppenheimer stands in the, in the footage you can see on this document. It's like, it was hand on his hip kind of behind his jacket and you catch, you catch Killian, do it in their trailers a couple of times. So I'm, I'm, I'm really pumped for this movie. Part of what are you saying, um, Oppenheimer? I haven't bought my ticket yet, you know, I have a plus one if you're interested. No. Yeah. Really? Just turn it down. When? Not in Philadelphia though. It's in, uh, pressure. K.O.P. K.O.P. Oh. Date night with Oppenheimer. Date night. Good. The three of us, just the three of us. What theater is it in? Good theater. Uh, it's a good theater. They have, um, Dolby. They have, oh, it is a Dolby theater. There. God. Well, Marsh says I want to go to the K.O.P. IMAX. Maybe it's, maybe it is IMAX. I'm pretty sure I saw Dolby logo in one of those theaters. Can you have a Dolby and an IMAX in the same chain? Is that a thing that's possible? At the same chain? I don't know. The Dolby was A.M.C. I got to do some more research here. Do you have a change? And prevent any further doxing of locations? Do your own research. Send me the I.M.C. We got our tickets for Oppenheimer and Barbie on the same day. Oh. Double Feach. Double Feach. We're doing it. My word. Friday. Just back to back. Anything in between to, like, unwind? Um, lunch. Oh. Um, in between lunch. Unwind lunch. What do you have for lunch in between those films? Whatever's by the theater. Chick-fil-A. Unwinding after Oppenheimer with a spicy chicken sandwich. Any other movie you want to talk about, Danny? I saw you watch Fallout. Um, I think that's, I mean, yeah, watch Fallout. I'm ready for a dead reckoning this weekend. Um, Fallout's five star, easy five star. I think it's definitely my favorite post. Uh, the first one, I guess. It's got to be, it's got to be the most, the best of the moderns. Um, it's about it. Yeah. Brother, did you see my line in my review about how, um, I felt like visually I liked my second viewing, because I wasn't so, did you feel like we were close to the screen the, what we saw a dead reckoning together? Um, or was the screen like exceptionally large in your memory? Yeah, I mean, it was pretty large. But I don't think I would have said that, um, I, I didn't feel like I could see the whole thing, I guess. Oh, I don't know. I, uh, maybe I'd have to see it again. Backward boys. Excuse me. I knew it as soon as I said it. It was pretty far back. I, we could have been further in my memory. Well, there was like three more rows behind us, so we could have been, yeah. Big mistake on my part. That's it. Uh, every week we give out a free year of letterboxed patron backdrop, name and the lights, stats, your favorite streaming services. Uh, I saw, let's say one, two, I saw two reviews tagged. One of which was for the Truman show. Oh. If you want to attempt to try to win that year of patron, just tag your review of 70 mm pod. It's not that exact tag. I don't look for it. I'm not looking for fresh. I don't tag background boys either. We don't search those tags. If that phrase is saved in my Google, all my algos are gone up in flames. Uh, one of these reviews cracked me out. Actually, I think this one might have been it. Well, the first one was for the Truman show. Ghost of a high five is the letterbox name. Watch this movie with my roommate last night. Forgot how funny Jim Carrey is in this movie. The little bathroom gags are hilarious. This watch had me wondering what it would be like to work for Christoph. A boring would it be to make the same loop around Truman's neighborhood day after day that magazine salesman. What did he do with the rest of his time? What do you think that magazine salesman did with the rest of his day? It's probably like at nine to five. Probably went home to his wife and kids. Yeah, you leave the set. Yeah. It's a job. The other review they tagged was last black man in San Francisco, our previous episode. Nobody owns anything. I don't even own the library DVD I used to watch this movie. There you have it. Got an actor's track would be detrimental to the Truman show production. Oh my god. Yeah. There was a track in the history of that show. She used to use 30 years. They must have paid a real while. Scabs. I bet you that magazine salesman was a scab. Partle, you watched a movie. I had to give Perl some props. Yeah, we have to. Can we give Perl props? Prop props? Pro. Backro boys. Hashtag. I've been pumping out these UFOs to our patrons. I'm not sure if it's just interns that are getting these, but what the heck are these UFOs for those that aren't in the know under a patron. Patreon. Well, you know, I've thought about this for a while. Well, one thing. I thought our last episode last black man in San Francisco was great. Other than the fact that I said like maybe 10,000 times. Checking myself, listening to me talk. I was thinking about that. I thought how can I get better at that? One thing is I could do more off the cuff talking about movies. These UFOs, what I try to do is I finish a movie and I just hit the record button on my iPhone and see what happens. It's fun to talk about a movie. They're about five minutes long of just me. What my initial thoughts are of the picture I just watched. These are things that when you're thinking about a movie right after you see it, some things that won't ever make it into the review that you write. I get to share some thoughts and think about the movie before I write the review. It's probably a lot of things that wouldn't be in the review anyway. I've been given them to the interns just as a little bonus. I did publish one today for DOS boot that I watched. It was for all the patrons that we have as a little protependent celebration to everyone. I do have to just real quick interject when I got the notification or someone posted a screenshot and I was sitting next to my wife Amanda and I looked at it and I was like, does that say nine minutes? I moved my face closer to my phone to verify it said nine minutes and a man it was like, what are you doing over there? Just like moving my face closer to my phone. Very exciting. Yeah, so I'm having a lot of fun doing these. I'm making no promises that they'll continue or how many I'll do. There we go. Say the more you do something, you can form a habit. I don't have a five or six of them now. Yeah, and it's a lot of fun. People seem to like it. Good for you. Good for you. How's the AFI journey going? Oh, yeah. We need to check in. What's the number at? What is the number? Let me look real quick. Check it out. Let's pull up the list. Load it up. I am at 78 watched. 78%. Wow. There. Wow. That's a 22 left. Yeah. And I was able to watch, let's see. I watched to this this past week. One that I was very, very nervous to get done. I had the DVD sitting on my desk for a while. Yankee, dude, old Andy. Who's a real movie? This is a real movie from 1942. And it stars James Cagney. Wow. He plays George Cohan, who was a song and dance man from the early 20th century. And he did like vaudeville stuff. But he wrote Yankee, doodle bandy and like a ton of different musicals and Broadway productions. So I guess he's kind of a legend probably in Broadway. So it's the story of his life. And I actually really had a great time. I hear this four stars. Oh my gosh. You know, it's black and white. And I was just like, I don't know. But the dancing is really incredible. James Cagney is an incredible tap dancer. And I found the music just a lot of fun. Like the song Yankee, doodle dandy, like the musical that that's about. They showed some of like the performance and what they would do on the stage. And it's just like a, it's, it was just like really funny and fun. And there's a lot of gags in the movie like revolving around his life. So he just does a lot of like funny things as character of Cohan. He was quite the character in real life. So I had never heard of this guy. You know, I'm not really a Broadway person. I enjoy musicals, but it's not like my thing. But I really had a great time. This was a fun movie. There was a, I don't know if it was a 4K. I think it was just a blue ray that came out in 2014 that I would actually kind of want to see. Because the DVD that I had that was from I think like the 90s or early 2000s. It was not, you know, you just noticed like the quality wasn't there. But seeing this in a blue ray, I'm kind of tempted. What are you going to do to celebrate once you wrap this journey up? Yeah, probably watch a movie. I just remember, you know, we didn't even talk about it next week. So the theme this month mentioned at the top of the show is Proto pendants, Proto. Danny and I, you know, we were sick and tired of the whining of Proto not having enough say in these picks. So Proto presented us with themes that we had to choose from. And he will present us a group of movies for us to select at the end of the episode. We already Danny and I have done that already once this month. So that means I think we will work together Danny and I right now to choose a theme. And at the end of the show, Danny and I will work together again to choose our next movie. So we need to hear the theme options from Proto for us to select together as one. All right, so the remaining themes, one modern bangers, two normal men, three horse week, four lafer die, five AFI, eight crime lovers. And finally, mystery all towards director, we have not covered yet on this show. Gosh, Danny, what are your top two? Top two remaining themes. Modern bangers, I think would be one. And for some reason, I thought I was picking this week alone. And I was going to pick horse week. God. So we have to discuss my two are even your two. My two would have been, I know what you're two are. What are they? These are easy pants. What are they? Normal men. No. And crime lovers. Yes. Crime lovers is in there. The other one would have been mystery out here, director, we haven't covered. So we need to, we don't even align. We need to need the middle somewhere, even though we're so far apart. Okay. I like mystery all tour. Okay. Okay. Do we go with that? I'm into that because you're not into horses. I'm not picking horse week. As much as people would want us to pick horse week. I'm not, I'm not there yet. All right. Let's do mystery are tour director. We haven't covered yet. I haven't covered. I love it. Me too. I love it. What is it? The mystery director. Is this one director for films by this director? Yes. David Fincher. For real? Oh my God. Adventure week. Okay. So we have zodiac. Okay. The game. Okay. Shoot. This is good. What's the girl with the dragon tattoo? Okay. That's a no. Panic room. Panic room. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yes. Let me look these movies up. Did you just let go back on the show? Do you know offhand if any of these are streaming? No. That has not been a factor at all for me. Okay. All right. Wow. And streaming anywhere. Let me see. Panic room is a rental 399. I've got none of them on streaming services. Zodiac. How is Zodiac not streaming? I feel like it was recently. Zodiac says this is another one of those dumb paramount plus on Apple TV. Oh, that's not a thing. It's made up, right? That's not real. It's fake. That means you've got to check prime video. That's right. You know what? That's a good idea. Let me look up what happens on. Slime, I have to give you my two now. Okay. We'll decide at the end where I'm at. Right. I'm at easily at Zodiac and the game. Oh my God. Michael Douglas. Michael friggin' Douglas. I'm looking up the game to see where that stars TV who even has stars. It is this. Look, I'm just catching up on chat. My God. I'm still scrolling. Holy moly. All right. We have to leave the show to Maronite. Yours was Zodiac in the game. Yeah. I've never seen Zodiac. And I'm tired of people telling me I need to watch Zodiac. Oh. So my top two. Okay. Well, then I think we've decided. Hold on. Hold on. Now we're however long this discussion is to decide. But my top two are probably Zodiac and Panicroom. Have you seen Panicroom? Oh, you're about to say I love Panicroom. You're about to say it. Panicroom was one of my first DVDs that I ever bought. I've only seen it once and I remember it liking it. We'll talk about it later. We'll make a decision. We can circle back. We can lock eyes and make a decision. But we got to talk about this movie, The Truman Show. Let's just get it over here. Our main course before we reveal our pick for next week. This was Proto Penance. A theme that Proto, a lot of piece in the sense. Proto provided for the LB top two 50. And I chose Truman Show. Jim Carrey. Peter Weir, 1998. Proto, what's this movie about? Truman Burbank has a great life. He lives on the coast, has a great job, married with no kids, all on an island. He lives the modern dream. But he happens to be the child of a corporation, who plays Truman within a dome for his entire life to be televised without him knowing. But when his reality starts crumbling around him, Truman seeks to escape it. But as a corporate daddy would do, Ed Harris will try and kill Truman before he lets him cancel The Truman Show. Proto Penance. Wow. 4K on Prime Video. At least that's where I watched it initially. And then a Guardian Angel sent me a 4K desk in the mail. Far that up. Or at least I tried to watch that on my Xbox. Yeah, this series X. I mean, the archaic design of the Blu-ray experience on Xbox someone should be a jail. My Xbox turns off if I hit like Paul's and shut off my TV and then I open up my Xbox and I go to the Blu-ray app. It starts as if I never was watching the movie. Who designed this? There's like five different ways to pause a movie with an Xbox controller and they're all wrong. They're all different from every streaming app that exists. You know, you open up a streaming app, you know what the buttons do on an Xbox. You know how to fast forward you, how to stop you on a pause. It's the total opposite in the Blu-ray app. Whoever, I can't, we need to move on. I want Colonel Nelson and Jail. Look at this big ass cops rolled up at his dress shirt. He's a major. He's a major. He's a major. He's stuck at major. He's just like Tom and Mac. People ask him why he hasn't been upgraded yet or promoted. Danny, what's your history with the Truman Show 1998? I remember you. I don't have a history with this. I've only ever seen it. Well, in my brain, I've seen it. I don't remember sitting down and watching this film. I know, I mean, I'm assuming I have. There are so many beats about it that I remember. But then that could just be the pop culture zeitgeist, shoving it down my face. It's like Geist Month. Oh, that sounds cool. That sounds good. I don't really have a history of this. So I was very excited to watch it again for this. Pro? I'm pretty sure this was like a TV viewing back in the day for me. And then I did watch it recently. I think I watched it right before I started logging movies on Letterbox. It's really LB. Yeah, I think it was probably like 2019, which actually now that wasn't that recent. Some of the five years ago. I was thinking about that the other day that like the pandemic started four years ago. What? 2019. That's four years ago. Right? Because I want to confirm my math. Is that real? I don't know what. I'm just saying it feels like last year. The real feel is four years. Regardless of the math. COVID-19 was kids in the name. COVID-19 was kids in the name. Kevin just told on himself. My history. I also remember those being like a TBS, TNT. You know, this is on all the time. I was growing up constantly. See Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey was on my TV. A lot growing up. You know, he was in this, we talked about in the man on the moon. That wasn't even the movie we did. We don't know Jim anymore. 80 versus Jim. The documentary, the famous documentary. We talked about how he had like a run over many years and was getting paid like 30 million dollars to do these movies. He couldn't do no wrong. Also a liar, a liar episode would be pretty fun. That was just before this. Lier, liar. His run from 94 to 97 was Ace Ventura, the mask, Dumb and Dumber, Batman Forever, Ace Ventura, Nature Calls, Cable Guy, liar, liar, and then Truman Show. Yeesh. Cable Guy, I remember really disliking as a kid, but I'd like to go back and watch that again. I feel like I just didn't get the dark humor. Yeah, I loved that when I saw that back in the day. Dark humor month. Right after his light ghost month. Okay, so at this point of the show, we'll go around the room, have our discussion. We jot down three main things in our viewing that we want to bring up and chat about. We'll go round table and then we'll end our discussion with our letterbox rating. I'll go first since this is my pick. One of my top threes is like my number one. I'm not going to go in like specific order, but the first thing I thought of was the Disney dome. The Disney volume. Seeing this movie. It's almost like an old school version of that. They built this city, this island, for him to just live and exist. I just had a weird experience going back to watch this in the post-reality TV show Boom. I remember like after this, I think it was like 2001 or 2003. Like Rally TV was like it. For all those channels. Like Survivor. And I was like, what did she say? The Osborns. The Osborns. And so I was thinking about like the Disney dome and how this like faux environment. And then I was like on the Wikipedia. And they mentioned something called the Joe Shmo show. Do you remember that show? No. 2003, this came out where it was like a reality TV game show. And all the contestants were actors except for one guy. And it was all fake to just mess with this guy on the show. So I was on YouTube watching some clips with it. And what's the one priest on always sunny who turned into a drug addict? Danny DeVito. Anyway, cricket the actor was on this reality show. So it was Kristen Wigg. I don't know. So it just like blew my mind going back in rewatching it and seeing like this was pre-reality TV. We're already out of reality TV. Essentially is becoming like the main thing. I feel like prestige TV has replaced reality TV. So it was a weird experience watching this knowing what has happened in the 20 years. Since then. I feel like when this had come out and then reality TV show had started, it was a different experience. But we've lived through so much since the Truman show. And that's kind of like the main thing I was thinking of as I watch this. So Danny, do you have fond memories of the reality TV boom of those years? I'm trying to think if I, when I would have started watching any sort of reality TV, I don't know. What about the most was what if I was my age now in 98 seeing this for the first time? Like I feel like this only works in an era without cell phones and the way we use the internet now, this kind of story would, I don't think the Truman show could have made it into modern times. I don't think it would have worked. But I kept thinking about like, what if I was 40 watching this in 1998? I feel like it would have broke my brain thinking about how this could possibly happen, et cetera, et cetera. But it's pretty cool. Per you a survivor head? No, I wasn't. I never was really into survivor. I don't know why. My family, we like to watch the amazing grace. We watch that show. But the show I loved and I think we talked about this before, is the mole. That's a cover. That show. That show seemed like the hardest show to be on the way it was just setup. The way they had those exams at the end of the show, it just seemed impossible. But I remember loving that. Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question of what without the just now all we know about reality television of what it would have felt like to see this in 98. I'm not really sure. Not Jay Kiss points out this was a time where network show could still have the nation's attention. That's true. There's like 10 channels for the majority of us growing up. But there's just so much BS for us to watch and on different platforms and different apps. It's so hard for something to really have the majority of a nation watching. I guess succession is probably the most recent example where a large percentage of your friends are all watching. And then they become like super annoying and you never want to watch the show again. Yes, and it was coming. But it's also hard to know now if everyone is watching it or is it just like the echo chamber that we live in of the people who we think are everyone are watching it. Right. Can we trust the numbers that these studios are telling us seven billion households watch these things? Oh, God. They thought about these like Netflix shows and no one's ever heard of. And it's like one billion nuclear family minutes watched on the show. Fakery. It's fake. I don't believe any of it. Part of what's the first thing you want to bring up? I think every time I watch this I think could this actually happen. And I guess what you're saying about reality television and the idea that with technology it couldn't happen. But the way they set it up you know, Truman lives in a bubble. There's no, he has no contact with the outside world. So if you actually did this you wouldn't have to set it in like modern day. You could like set it within any time. And not even have cell phones which would be pretty wild. And even the thought like you're saying Slim about you know capture a niche. Or you know most people that they would have to watch it. If right now there was a live feed of someone's life who didn't know and lived in a dome it would be hard not to watch it. And I love that part of the movie of how there's people who it seems like they're at work and all they're doing is watching the Truman show. It's like watching like the addictions that people have now to watch live streaming. You know, because you had this fear of missing out on something. How much fear of missing out would you have on this type of thing where it's like here's this guy, doesn't even know you're watching him. But the producers are writing you know trying to write this show like bringing people into his life to try to create like these scenarios, these dramatic moments. That would be so captivating. It would be hard to look away. Hmm. What year did cereal come out? Remember when that was like the number one thing at the water cooler. So to speak. 15. My God. That's right before the pandemic. 2015. No idea. Danny number one for you. Number one for me. I love this town. I love the setting. There's something about the production of this movie that I it's there's something. I mean, it's weird to know it's fake. But then to watch Truman interact with it like it's real. It's like I have such a hard time focusing on him when I want to watch everyone else around him. I want to look at the buildings. I want to see if there's a crack like the mistakes. But I'm always I say always this is like my second time watching it. But throughout watching it this time, I found myself just kind of in all of the idea that this could happen. Watching the background actors when it starts to break loose and he runs into his dad as the homeless person and the way they try to stop him from getting to him and I don't know. There's just something about the production and the city and the town that I just found almost more fascinating than the story itself. I love looking at it. I mean, I know it exists in real life in Florida. You can literally go to this town that they had to buy off the mayor or whatever to even film there. They didn't want it. They're untouched. They're like I feel like he asked for like 5 million for himself to let them even film at this thing. And they're like no, not going to happen. But yeah, it's just I don't know. I love the production of this. It has this like we are so fake but it's meant to be reality kind of feel to it and I love it. Like you could tell me that that is a fake town movie set and you would believe it. Like all the scenes and like the the side streets and stuff. It reminded me of like Edward Scissorhans the town there that they had. It was like kind of bright and shiny and fake. Yeah, I love the look of it. I love the bridge. This is my buddy who's stalking vending machines as his main job in that small town. I mean how much work is that I have in this small town just stocking vending machines every day. The fact that Truman believes it. Yeah, also. Aren't you in this one every single day? Exactly where to find them. My number one. I'm talking at the pandemic a lot. In my review, I put that it was insane to me that they didn't make a sequel to this movie during the pandemic and put it on Paramount Plus. Like, how did that not happen? I'm grateful that it didn't. But this feels like ripe for studios looking for quick cash with no cost. Like, can we film just this little thing with Jim Carey? What's he up to now? Because at the end of the movie, I was like, man, I would just personally, I would still love to see what happened to Truman, what happened to Christophe. Like, I want Christophe in prison. Oh, you want a sequel after you walked out the door? Or at least like, yeah, I want to see what happened to him after. Like, did he get with the high school sweetheart of like one night? Yeah, I'm just like, I almost like want fan fiction of like what happened after this movie. And I'm just so shocked that nothing was made in this world after the movie. Whereas there's just like so much crap that was turned out in the pandemic of sequels and like follow-ups. Like, wasn't there a father of the bride that we talked about in one episode? Sort of watched it. Part of watched it in love with Jenna. Well, that was one of those Zoom videos though. Yeah, where it's like, it's a movie, but it's just the actors on Zoom pretending to be their characters as if the family is having a Zoom meeting. Oh my God, kill me. I mean, they're catastrophic. I give like in another world, there's a Christoph Truman Zoom conversation happening. And it's like the Truman show too on Paramount. And then by Warren Beatty. And then Warren Beatty calls it. It would have been Josh Gad. Josh Gad would have hosted that conversation. Basically what you want slim is the 50 shades of Truman. I need more. I need more. I want to find out. I'm always against sequels, but I kind of want to find out what that happened. You're always against sequels. Well, always strong word. If I could take that word back, I would. I don't think a direct sequel to Jim Carrey's story of Truman's story is appealing to me. It would be more appealing if to me if they tried to reboot it with like a new baby, like a new character. More so. How much, I mean, do they say how much that dome cost and like that city? I don't think they did. They might have said it at the beginning of that interview. I can't remember though. It was nice. You could see it from space. Yeah, it was pretty cool. The zoom out. And it's like gigantic. Pro what's your number two? My number two, I think the, the main thing I had issues with watching it this time was the moment when Truman starts to doubt and the reality of a sod begins to crumble for him. It didn't seem like the thing that happened to him was like big enough to initiate that. Of course, it kind of like layered on top of things and he saw more and more that it became pretty obvious. But it felt kind of like all the sudden he's very paranoid or he thinks something else is going on. When it seems like these things would have been normal for a while and he like at the way the show is produced and it seems like it had like a lot of mistakes throughout, throughout it that he would have like found out earlier rather than finding out when he did. I don't know. I just didn't really buy that this time for a while. A light falls from the top of the dome in the beginning of the movie. How many times has this happened? Zero. Zero. That was the first light that's found in history. I mean, for the filming of The Truman Show, it's like these things breaking around him after decades of being in the dome. Like when did they upgrade their products? When did they upgrade their question? When did they repaint the sky on the wall in the back? Right. Yeah, you're right. When did they paint this guy 30 years ago and it still looks great? Right. I don't know. I was kind of shocked that it took that long into the movie for his breakout. I thought the breakout was sooner or almost and there was more of a search for him. Having said that, I still loved the way it unfolded and you thought that when his dad is brought to him and he had like amnesia and you think that he's like, oh, he's back in. He buys everything. But really, it was like, he's officially out. He's like, I'm so out of here. I'm going to come up with a scheme and go missing. To be honest, all that stuff worked for me just as well as the first time I saw it. I don't know if Danny, you thought the same or otherwise. I think as a whole, it kind of works. I wish the movie was longer. I think it's too short. Everything feels a bit, everything just kind of happens at a quick pace that I just wish they would have given us a little bit more of Jim kind of losing it or Truman or not losing it, but I don't know. I would have liked a longer part of him coming to grips of reality that he's living a lie or his life is a show or something because it all kind of just happens real quick and he's digging out or whatever and he's making a break for the water. But I don't know. I wanted more of it. I wanted more because I think Jim's amazing in this. That's my next point. I just, I wanted more from Jim because I'd like him in a serious role. So that was your next point, Jim. Yeah, Jim. Because I feel like at this point in his career, he's been the funny guy. And while he's funny in this, it's not like Jim carry exclamation point funny. He has his like charming kind of, you know, the way his mannerisms are. But when he's serious, I think, I mean, this is like the beginning of his like kind of serious career, not serious career, but he does more serious movies after this. I really wanted more from Jim because I think the ending of it is kind of pitch perfect. His performance, when he's sailing away, the way he looks like on the ship. And I kind of, I think it's either after the storm hits, kind of like leaning back, looking up into the sky, his realization that he's run into the wall at the end. It's like Jim's incredible in this. And I think, I'm honestly shocked that he was nominated at the time for it. I think only Ed was for best supporting, which I also find kind of weird because he's not into that much. Yeah. But yeah, Jim's incredible. And I would have liked to have seen him kind of lose his grip with his fake reality, a little bit more in the middle section than kind of how it kind of plays out. Yeah, I feel that this movie has a few really great ideas that it's playing with. And it's on the cusp of saying something or giving a little bit more of what you want, but doesn't ever get there with any of the ideas. If just, here's a guy in a dome and like an alternate reality than the one we live in. But they don't ever compare, like give us a mirror to think of like, well, what does that mean about our reality? Or the people that are watching Jim do this, we see them watching, but it doesn't really say too much about like what that means about them. Or just like living in a society where every day kind of feels like the same or people are doing the same things. There's like a lot of cool ideas in this, but it just doesn't ever get over the edge for me of saying something profound. Like it's, this movie feels profound, but it just doesn't get it out far enough. I feel like I said that to Casey too when we were done watching it. Cause like I was like, yeah, I liked it. I kind of wish it was a little bit more existential or something. There's just felt like something missed for me a bit. And I think a lot of it has to do with the transition from losing his reality. I feel like maybe like your detrimental opinions of it work for it in the way that it became a mainstream success. Like it gives the viewer almost just enough to be that kind of like popcorn movie. Yeah, don't have to really dwell on the potential negative thoughts on our society. You know where it's kind of like uplifting at the end doesn't give you more than it needs to. It gives you just enough to enjoy the ride. And then you can think about it or not. It's up to you. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, this movie definitely doesn't hit you over the head with its ideas. Let's talk about my last point. Maybe let's talk about Christophe or boy running the show with that hat. What kind of hat? What's that hat called? So I know what those hats are called. A beret? Isn't there a brand that that name? Is that a hat? Is there a kangaroo? A kangaroo. Was it a kangaroo? I don't know. I mean, it was a definite look. So in like the movie started several people or typing. What? When the movie started, I forgot that it, so I haven't seen this in a long time. But when it started with Christophe like doing his pitch about, you know, the creation of the show and then Larlinny talking about how it's like a noble job, I mean, these people were sociopaths. It really involved in the production of this show. They need to face hard time in my opinion. Everyone involved. And Christophe, like it's so crazy, I thought, I mean, I loved it again rewatching this movie. And when he's like crafting the stories, like the big moments in their lives, like the death of the dad. Yeah. And the return of the dad and he's like directing those scenes. Those are some of my favorite moments of the whole show. And it's almost like he's like this artist, this highly regarded artist. And then he directs these scenes and he's like so exhausted. He's like, it takes off his little ear piece and he goes to bed. He's like, oh, I gotta go to bed. So I liked rewatching. I loved the character. I love the conversation at the end of the movie where he's talking to Truman, like as he's thinking about exiting and how he's like his, he talks bad. And he's like, he's son. So yeah, he was probably my favorite character on this watch personally. You know, you're saying that now? I think if they did, I could see them doing a remake of this, but it being a series where it's like each episode you follow the production. And maybe they're like the show's getting canceled and they have to like wrap it up in some way or like try to keep it going, like get it funded. But having like the counter play between like the production side and the inside of the show and seeing both sides of that would be really compelling. Yeah, I think. One of the, oddly enough, one of the executives, you mentioned like a show that blurs the line between production and the product is the agent from the Larry Sanders show, which is one of my favorite shows. And they like blur the line between talk show and the behind the scene stuff. So I thought, I'd never seen this guy in another role, but he was in this movie, which I thought was funny. Well, also they do like try to, they do try to like end it, right? They try to like kill Truman in that storm at the end. What do you even do if that point, you just adopt another child and like just start everything over again? I wonder what the end game was there? Can corporations go to jail for killing people? I don't know. Ask the question. It doesn't make any sense. Proton number three, we've covered most of it. I do love the scenes of seeing all the people watching the show. There is the bar. I think it's called like the Truman bar. And I just love it how the bartenders all working there aren't even serving anyone and they're always just watching the TV. And then there's those two security guards who are sitting together. And I love how the movie ends with them. I'm like, here they are. We see them watching the show. That's as if that's all they do. And then when Truman walks out in the broadcast ends, they're like, well, is there anything else on? What do you want to watch? Yeah. I love that. But those scenes just, and the characters that they make in those scenes are really well done. Yeah. The guy in the bathtub. Yes. I can't imagine watching a TV in a bathtub. Yeah. The death by electricity potential is too high for me. Yeah, he is asking for it. Danny? Where'd my phone go? Gosh, lose on mine. Uh, I guess it's just kind of small notes. I like the score a lot. I thought, uh, as a Peter White's, or something. That did a great job. I just kind of love the ending. I love the music in the ending part. I think there's a part where he's sleeping. The music is kind of beautiful. Yeah, that's kind of it for that. Wow. Trying to think of anything else that I'd love. Is this a three star from Danny? It's not. No. I will go ahead and say it's a four star. Oh. Yeah. I think this is a great movie. I wanted more from it. Like I wanted, I don't know. I didn't connect as much as I thought I would. I didn't connect a Truman. I think probably because I don't, I've never had that kind of lifestyle of his to like see the day in and day out of that kind of stuff. But I just, I found myself really wanting more out of it than I got. Maybe I expected too much. Maybe it's on me. But I think it's a great film. I think it's one of Jim's best. I think Jim and Jim's incredible in it. I think the supporting cast is incredible in it. I think Laura Lennie is great as the, I love when she's giving her her ads. That's just funny. Like it's really funny and kind of on the nose for who we are. And yeah, I'm a four stars for this at a great time. Okay. But when they like direct him in front of that fried chicken ad at the beginning of the movie, like a costume for the conversation, the twins. Honorable mentions from me. We haven't really talked about, but this was like a cult. I feel like this movie was like a cultural moment. This was a gigantic movie when it had come out. Like everyone was talking about this movie was super popular. I love the vignetting of the cameras, the hidden cameras. I mean, how many cameras my God, they have in this city. It's gotta be all insane. When his boss sends him to that island because he's like, this is after he starts asking about Fiji, he wants to go on a trip of vacation just to get out. And he needs to go get a ticket for like the trip off the island and the one guy is like, one way or return. And it's like return. So like doing all these, I didn't catch that in the first viewing, but I caught on the second one where they're like, just all the little things that they're trying to mentally, subliminally tell him to not go anywhere because you'll die if he do. And just like the boat resting there under water to bring back the memories of his dad dying. I mean, the dad death is just psychotic. Like that's why I was saying how the Christoph and everyone involved needs to face hard time for what they do to this poor boy. I mean, it was his desire to like go out in the water. His dad told him it looks like it was gonna be a storm and the dad ends up drowning in front of him. Drowning. That's why he wears the camera ring the whole time. That ring. That's ring. Oh, I didn't catch that. I was wondering why the hell it was going to be. They got them to like wear it like a heirloom. Okay. The music when he's in the revolving door when he like starts to have that moment where he is wondering, maybe there is something going on and he like puts his hand up at the cars and stuff. So cool. Oh, the trip lady, when he goes to see the, what's that job? What is that job called when you organize trips? Traveler? Traveler. Yeah. The trip lady, she's still wearing her napkin, her makeup napkin when she goes to visit her. Well, that was funny. How about all the posters on her wall are just like ways you can die from traveling? I do think that like a lot happened in that time frame to make him freak out. Like I know you guys were talking about like not enough happened or you wanted more, but I mean, there's a lot of stuff that goes wrong in like the course of a few days or weeks however long it is. Like he hears them, he hears like the directors of the producers over his cart radio on point. Yeah. There's just a lot of stuff. Our boy, the, there's some Simpsons actors in this doing the interview. Mr. Burns, the, his name is Skasey, same with Travel Agent, but the guy who does the voice from Mr. Burns does the interview of Christophe. Harry Scher, thank you. And then they talk about like, let's look back to the history of all the mishaps in Truman's life. And they had like intruders appear. How do they even get in there? How do they get past security to like be on live TV and trying to tell Truman that I don't really get that? They dig. Anyone can dig out. I'm not responding. I'm not responding to that. Truman could dig have his house and avoid all the cameras. I don't really take you to dig to get in that dome. I wanted more. I thought the same thing about the, the girl he, he was in love with who is on the set. And it's clear you can tell that like Truman has something with her, right? Oh, yeah. But she's like given direction like it. It's like, obviously the producers are like, no, we've, we got this other woman in line. So if she, if he comes up to you, just kind of ignore him. But don't you think they would have just like taken her off the set like to remove any risk of like, no, this is too dangerous. You're just going, you know, you're not even in the show anymore. Right. I wonder if some of that was like maybe she was, maybe she was a ratings draw at a certain point. Like maybe when they were together, people were like really tuning in and they were just kind of like nervous that like, yes, we're getting ratings, but we got to pull her soon. Yeah. Like what they did with Laura Lenny's character where they're like, she will have him like this other lady in the office. Oh, yeah, that's right. They replaced her real fast. Yeah. Yeah. I guess anything that would be happening with, with Truman, that would be like organic. You would want to keep it in the show. Those would be the best things. When Kristoff explains about how they covered up the dad's missing with Amnesia Harris here is like, oh, brilliant. Yes. Love the interview. I also love like when they turn into like a police state looking for him. They do so many things when he's missing that I feel like the jig is up at this point. Like they turn the sun on at a certain point and they're all freaking out. The conversation at the end of the Kristoff, I'm the creator of a television show. I'm like really on the nose stuff. All the viewers are complicit. I had in my notes where the one guy at the end, he asked where the TV guide was. The majority of people watching the TV even know what TV guide is. I'm at five stars. I love this movie. Oh my gosh. Wow. Fantastic time rewatching this. I was glued to the TV. Hell yes. And the fact that the Getz family owned that house that Truman lived in, it didn't hold me down a star. Didn't shake you. F the Getz family. Getz. Everyone who's touched that house is complicit. Put the Getz family in prison alongside Kristoff for their crimes against society and Joe. Guys a scumbag. Both of them. Proto. Wow. So happy to hear that. There's so many great little gags in the background. Like everything in the newspapers I love. Like after he gets, he sees his dad as the homeless guy and then the paper the next day just says, crack down on homeless. And like Truman sees it. Like what? The sea with her crossing the fingers in the wedding photo. Oh my gosh. How does it get past quality assurance? And how does she think that cancels the marriage? Right. Like this is your job. We didn't really talk about his friend Marlon, who's like his best friend. And I guess he's been on the show. How about that guy? Like his whole life is a child actor, yeah. Child actor for 30 years. Same character. But I love that line where he's like, if everybody is in on it, that would mean that I'm in on it too. Yeah. And he says that so sincerely. And that's like, that's a great scene. Cause it's like, man, you're right. Everyone is complicit. How about when he looks in the camera too, after he can't find Truman? If he's like, what is the line? He like looks directly in the camera. He's like, I can't find him. He's gone. And Christophe freaks out, tells him to cut the feed. You know, that one camera that's in the grass, that's right, we're the whole that he dug out of. Yeah, I mean, this is terrible, but I would love for this to happen. I think Lou did the screen, you know? I would too. I'd be complicit. Yeah. I have to get like another phone just dedicated to having fun at all times. Just walking around with your like holding it up. Yes, movie does kind of have a twin cause there's Ed TV came out the next year. Yeah, which is the Ron Howard movie I was thinking about. Didn't he do that? Yeah, he did. Yeah. But like, cameras followed him around. Yeah, and he knew about us. Yeah. Yeah, but it was like 24.7. He's being videotaped. Goodness. Yeah, I think my main issue with this movie is that, like I said earlier, it feels incomplete in some way to me. And I can't see how it can be its strength to think that because it kind of leaves it up to the viewer and it's a little bit more vague. But I don't know, I just want a little bit more from it. So I'm at three stars. Wolf. Sure, Truman. Wolf. That was proto. All right. That is the Truman show scandalous ratings. If I can be really, if I can be honest, I thought they'd be higher, but that's okay. We had a great time. Leave us an email. We do have some emails to get to. We have a VM to get to as well. Let me see if I can pull up our voicemail machine. Hopefully it works. Art is left to VM. Can leave us a VM or email at 70mmpod.com. Let's listen to art. Hello, gentlemen, it's art. Calling with a voicemail for tonight's show. Hey, speaking of voicemails, I've noticed just a little dip in the number of VMs coming through. I don't know what's to blame there. If it's the show's two damn popular, people are scared to hear their own voice on a show that's getting retweeted by Apple podcasts for God's sakes. Or all the voicemailers have just started their own podcast and they're too cool for school. Anyway, the VMs, where'd they go? We need the VMs. We're looking into the VMs. Oh my God. All for a renaissance of the VMs. Let's get the villagers to send a couple in. Tonight's episode, what? DOS, boot, what a big photo. Serving up a choice of force. Lynn choosing the best and most impactful classic on the list of great candidates. Been in my top four from the beginning and you start a rewatch of something in your top four. It's a little nerve wracking. Is it gonna hold up? Yes, it absolutely does hold up. It's just one of the most gripping movie watching experiences you can have. So I've been looking for the villager reviews all week. They haven't started dropping. I don't know why, but maybe because it's not straight. Oh, here's a photo. Four stars just dropped. That's five stars in anyone else's book. We all know that. So we have to a great start for tonight's discussion of DOS boot. Looking forward to it. Love you boys. Good night. Oh, art. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Was not expecting the impression that came out of Art's mouth during that VM. That was scary. That was frightening. I've never heard Art do an impression. He put it into that in my life. Way too easily. Listen, no one should ever feel forced to leave a voicemail. If they feel the need to leave a voicemail, then that's when you leave a voicemail or email. So don't you sweat it. I don't sweat it. And neither should you. But we do have some letters to get to. Aaron left us an email. Hello, Proto Slim and Danny. I don't normally send emails, but wanted to share the Truman Show story and the sick perverted joke. My brothers decided to plan me during my first viewing of this amazing film. I am the youngest of four boys. And because of that, I am usually coming to things in life fast. The Truman Show was a favorite of my high school drama teacher and she showed it every year in her film's studies class along with Ed TV to compare the two. And as a freshman in high school, brother number three was a junior in taking that class and probably had just watched the Truman Show. He came home and was talking about it with my other brothers who had just taken the class as well. And I was asking about it, knowing absolutely nothing about it. They wouldn't tell me anything and they insisted I just watched it instead. They popped in the DVD and then while one of them must have been distracting me fast forwarded through the movie, through the movie's first two minutes where the director and actors are talking about the show and they started at the title card. So I had no clue that this was a hidden camera movie until 15 minutes in and even then they just cut to people watching the show. So I still didn't really know the extent of the operation until an hour in. That was extremely paranoid and felt exactly like Truman. All this to say, I honestly love my first viewing of this movie. Even though it was a funny thing, my brothers did to me to watch me swim. I actually think it makes the movie a really good psychological thriller if they had cut the first two minutes and then all the shots of the people watching the show for the first hour until it cuts to Ed Harris. But that's probably just my love for thrillers coming into play excited to hear your thoughts and can't wait to see what's next for Proto pendants. Aaron Zanay. Pronounced like the nickname for Zanaks. That's not. Zanay. Zanay, pop. Thank you, Aaron Zanays. I did read that the original script for this was a little bit more dark and like sci-fi-ish. So I wonder if that was like, what Aaron maybe expected. What's his name from Mank? Gary Omen. Gary Omen. He screen tested the dark version of this. Scrapped, which was like rainy New York. Really? Yeah. Yeah, that is, I wonder if there's a cut of this that just like removes all the behind the scenes stuff. I could see like a horror trailer, someone probably. Yeah, for sure. Lock and wipe. All right, Joseph is next. Subject line of this from the show. Slash Joseph, parentheses, Joe Jazzy. Goodness. Hello, 70 mm and the lovely listeners. I wanted to write in because you're talking about my all-time favorite film, The Truman Show. I love this film for numerous reasons. From the impact it had on my personal life, letterbox review for more. Don't want to get too wordy for an email on the show. To the stellar performances from Jim Carrey and Ed Harris, the final scene where Kristoff is making one last play at getting Truman to stay and the silence ettery finished with, well, say something, God damn it, you're on television. You're live to the whole world. Are you kidding me? That's unbelievably good cinema right there. I hope all three of you like the movie. Smiley emoji. I also wanted to say how much being a part of the Patreon VHS Village community has meant to me. Coming out of college and having most of my friends move out of New England, I was really struggling with the feeling of being lonely and lacking something to help me feel like I was part of a community. I was skeptical of joining an online group because of other attempts in the past, but it ended up being one of the most welcoming experiences I have ever had. And I believe that I've really made some genuine connections to many of the folks in the village. The community you've managed to build around the show is incredible and I hope all of you are really proud at what you've succeeded in creating. Thanks so much for producing my favorite content every week and keeping me sane. Happy Proto pendants, everyone. I can't wait to buy this artwork. Love you all. Joseph, Joe Jazzy in the Discord. Psh, thank you, Joe. Thank you very much, Joe, for being a part of that community. Really appreciate it. Wait until you see this art, Joe Jazzy. Wait until you see this art. I'm just mitten by this art. Love this one. I'm just DMing you about this art, or you can't do it. Yeah. I can't show my wife these DMs. Please. I'm in enough trouble as it is. Joseph, I don't know. Joe and Chad, I've daydreamed about Danny Art for this movie. I hope it was worth the wait. I think it is. All right, so Danny and I need to settle up. We need to talk about what movie we want for next week. It's between, what do you want? It's between Zodiac and Panic Room and the game, right? Those are our top three. Yeah, our top three. I've seen Zodiac a couple times. I've seen Panic Room once. I've never seen the game. That's, that's right, man. I know Zodiac would be huge. Be a big up. I got my producer hat on. I can't believe you haven't seen it. That's honestly. Maybe it's the fact that Robert Downey Jr. has another pants problem in this movie. Oh, for God's sake. Does he own a pair of well-fitting pants? Has anyone seen him in a pair of well-fitting pants? Who could tell me? Have we ever talked, we talked right out of the show, right? I don't, I don't know if we have. I have like this running bit where Robert Downey Jr. cannot wear non-baggy pants. Like if you look at promotional photos or like sets, set photos of him on the Avengers, he's wearing the baggiest ass pants. It's like he was sponsored by Jinko. He's got some kind of deal with them. He signed, maybe he was younger. Lifetime contract with them. So my vote is for Zodiac. Oh, yeah. I think it'd be a big app for the show. Zodiac. We've talked about it for a long time. You're in? I'm in. Wow. Let's do Zodiac. There it is. Okay. This is huge. This is a big one. This is a big one. Zodiac. Make no mistake. I love the game for those listening right now. Love the game. No mistake. But maybe it's time to finally watch Zodiac. Michael Douglas knows how to wear a suit. 162 minutes. Yeah. Safe space. It's almost three hours. Can we, can we change your vote? Is it too late? Mark Ruffalo. Which one of you two doesn't like Mark Ruffalo? That's me. That's me. I think it's in one of my Zodiac reviews too. What's wrong with Mark Ruffalo? We'll get into it next week. I love Mark Ruffalo. Do you? I saw his weenie in the cut. He bears all one movie if anyone's interested. What movie do you like Mark in outside of Marvel? Outside of Marvel. Collateral. He's in that. He plays one of the cops. He plays one of the pigs. I'm going. I don't know if I've actually seen him. I've seen a lot of him on Marvel's stuff. That's his best work. Fox catcher. He was really good in. Fox catcher. The last castle. One of my faves with Robert Redford. Some folks are saying shut her island. 13 going on 30. He's been in a lot. That's all I'll say. Yeah. Okay. It's it for this week. It's a big week. Big freaking week. So pendants gigantic success. It might. It's a bit of big. It's a bit of big. It's gigantic success. Thank you. What's next? Stay tuned. We're going to build everything up only to tear it down. Part of any closing thoughts this week. Well, just to harking back to what art was saying. I did watch DOS boot this this week. I only got around to this one. Big one off those big, big one and took for me. I think this is the best submarine movie I've ever seen. And it's fascinating how this was and I put this in my review. But when this was made, it was it had a theatrical release. But then they also had it that they would have a like a television cut that was much longer than the theatrical three actor. Yeah. So they like they shot all this extra footage to have for these additional scenes for when it ran on TV. And then eventually there was a director's cut and then I think they caught it like the final cut that came out, which was the one I watched for just three hours long. The production's pretty amazing. I don't understand how like submarines work or how you could get. Clearly. No one does. If deep guys work in a sub at one time, living in a sub, logistically, I don't understand how that even works. I would love to watch a documentary about this whole fiasco of being underwater in a machine. But really fascinating movie. I think if if those things interest you, it's a pretty compelling watch. And I can see why it's highly regarded. It looked like dynamite from Wolfgang Peterson. Good boy. My boy. Yeah. Me and Wolf. Me and Wolf. Dos, boo. Add it to your watch lists. Maybe I'll add it to mine. It's double VHS. Is it a double VHS? It is, yeah. Comes in a boo. It's got to be. I don't think that's what they're going to do. We'll see everybody next week for Zodiac. 70mm is a tape deck production featuring original artwork provided by Danny Haas. Visual guidance and Vager, the robot who loves movies provided by Portal Access, producer at large Dale underscore a transcripts provided by Sophie Shin and music composed by Cinematic. 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