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Hi, psychic listeners.
Welcome to another episode of a psychic story.
And for this episode,
I have back on Carrie Hummingbird, Sammy.
She's medicine woman, mother and mentor.
She's the founder of inner medicine training
and mystery school that shares potent ancient traditions
from the Andes and Himalayas
for owning your wisdom and living your purpose.
And now also she is the number one international best-selling
author of inner medicine,
becoming one with mother earth for the survival of humanity.
And that's what we're gonna talk about here today.
Ooh, I just got chills.
She's also the host of Soul Nectar Show
where Carrie inspires people to lead
and live their lives wide awake
with an authenticity, passion and purpose
that positively impacts others.
Sister and podcaster, welcome back.
Oh, thank you, Nicole.
I'm so glad to see you again.
I think about you often.
And I think your audience is doing great things,
listening to you.
And I wanna say also that you're gonna be on Soul Nectar Show.
And so if anybody's interested in hearing Nicole's story,
that's gonna come out.
I already did an episode with you,
but we're gonna do another one.
So I'm excited because you always wanna hear,
sometimes you have your person you'd love to listen to,
but then you wanna hear their story too.
And you gotta go somewhere else for that.
So yeah.
Yes, yes.
Well, and we'll be sure,
I'll be sure to include that in the show notes.
So, Carrie, you've been doing loads of things
since we talked to last.
One of them also was writing this book,
which is now, I mean, it's only been out a couple weeks now
and it's an international best seller.
So what led you to write the book?
Tell us all about it.
Yeah, absolutely.
I feel really fortunate that the first book,
the second wave, it's not really my first book,
but the second wave is on the charts,
194 weeks now, internationally best seller.
And that tells me that people are waking up
to what is going on in the planet
and looking outside the traditional boxes for answers.
And as they find those answers,
they wake up to a part of themselves
that needs to be discovered right now.
So the first part for a lot of people was like,
oh my gosh, we're part of a wave of consciousness
lifting on the planet, right?
What does that mean, right?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
People waking up just in general.
Yeah, and then being curious about like thinking outside the box,
like maybe I'm like a soul.
And reincarnating and having lots of lifetimes on this planet.
Oh my gosh, I never thought of myself that way.
Or what if I'm a star seed
and I came here to help lift consciousness
and now I'm like waking up to that.
Wow, what does that mean about me?
So I love that.
And now this is the next revelation, right?
Because revelations come in a series of revelations.
And I'm not the only one putting revelations out there,
but in my little Carrie Hemembert camp in the world,
the revelation is now it's like,
the invitation is yes, you're a soul.
Yes, you're a star seed, most likely.
Yes, you are here for the change on the planet.
Anybody on the planet is here for the great awakening,
like everybody.
Yes, you are that.
And it's not necessarily what you thought
because life leads you on a series of revelations
to get you to the next revelation.
And so for a lot of people, they thought,
okay, this means my path to success
is to ascend my consciousness
by just being in soul timeless consciousness
and only staying there.
And so doing lots of meditation and keeping my vibe high
and only ever being in that space
and never ever going into shadows.
And if I get there, like quick, you get it off me
and like go back up to the high places, right?
And a lot of people leave their bodies, you know,
when they do meditation and it feels good.
That's why we like to sleep.
Yeah, let me dream, let me sleep, let me go leave my body.
Well, now it's like, no, no, no,
late get in your body.
Get all the way in your body
because when you get all the way in your body,
number one, you can manifest things better
on behalf of the planet and other people
in your community and yourself.
And number two, you get the messages you need.
So when we're outside of our body,
we get one kind of message from our higher guidance, right?
We get that higher ascended consciousness,
a message from the angels of the higher realms
or things like that.
But what we want to do now is get in our body
so we can get the mother earth messages
because the solutions for the,
for how humanity is going to survive this fifth extinction
comes from mother earth.
That's where the messages come from.
It's about plugging yourself back in as a cell
in the body of mother earth and realizing
that your spirit and body,
your soul and human,
you're the great spirit,
you're also mother earth in this incarnation
or series of incarnations on earth, you are that.
So you got to get comfortable with the density
and comfortable with the emotions
and maybe you're not comfortable,
but you got to feel it to heal it, right?
And we're at the turn of the great age here right now,
we have to heal all the things that came before.
And those things are in your body,
even if you didn't experience those lifetimes,
they're ancestral DNA in your body
and you're carrying it forward if you don't heal it.
So that's why embodiment is a big topic right now.
Like everyone's talking about embodiment, embodiment,
embodiment and it's all over the place.
Why?
Because mother earth speaks to everybody who's listening
and then everybody's sharing those messages
because they're hearing it through their meditations
and through their own bodies.
And as we embody, we get the information we need
for what steps we're individually supposed to take,
because we all play a part, what role am I playing,
what role are you playing, what role is the listener playing,
that comes from mother earth direct.
That doesn't come from me or you or anybody else,
it comes direct from mother earth
through your body and your ability to get quiet and listen.
So that's really the impetus behind this book.
And so what's the structure for listening
and the best tool that we have that we know of
that's coming through me and I'm sure there's many other ways
and cultures and things like that.
So I don't wanna dismiss any path
because I really believe that we all have
a unique thumbprint journey.
But if you're listening to this and you're resonating,
the path is the medicine wheel.
The path is through the ancient traditions
of our ancestors and the indigenous people
that are currently alive today that carried a forward
through a whole lot of suffering and colonization.
They kept this wisdom alive for us today
so that we could reactivate this knowing,
stepping into harmony with the four directions
the south, the west, the north and the east,
mother earth, all of life on the planets,
the mountains, the rocks, the crystals,
I mean, how many of us have found crystals
and like have like tons of crystals now?
It's happening whether you knew what was happening or not.
And that is the medicine wheel calling you
to be in earth spirituality,
in earth connection and earth consciousness.
So we've been gravitating towards the rocks of crystals,
we've been gravitating towards the plant medicines.
That's all part of this shamanic path.
And so to really honor it is to really step
into a spiritual practice of devotion
with the four directions and mother earth
for your own evolution of your consciousness
because you're not gonna evolve your consciousness
without the body.
One of the things that was really standing out to me too
is that you're right, there was a lot of,
or is a lot of, let me try to go inward
and understand who I am and where I am in the spiritual journey.
And I think that oftentimes people believe that,
oh, that was all I really had to do
was kind of go within and understand
and go from that perspective.
But then there's constantly areas for growth for us
on our spiritual path and journey.
And where people might be struggling with,
and I don't wanna speak for everybody listening,
but is where it is that density.
It's now understanding that connection to earth.
It's understanding the connection to the energy around us
not just within earth, but the community.
And through that, and why we have these physical bodies
and we're human beings is to be able to not just experience it,
to transmute our healing, that of our ancestors.
Also past lifetimes as well as the earth.
It's a constant energetic exchange,
but we're taking from the earth versus giving back.
And that's kind of where we're headed, right?
Can you talk a little bit about this fifth extinction?
And I'm sure that's a lot in the book as well,
but to share for people that might not be as familiar
with what that is.
Yeah, and so there's been cycles of growth on the planet
for a long time.
And they go in these cycles where it'll go for a while
where there'll be life flourishing
with some version of humanoid,
and then it will have an extinction.
Or like, for example, the dinosaurs is a perfect example,
like the asteroid hit the earth.
It created all that destruction
and all of life died off for a little while,
and then she rejuvenated life in a new way.
So there's always these periods of time
where Mother Earth kind of clears the slate.
Like if it starts to get too unbalanced,
she'll just kind of come along and clear the slate of that.
And for a long time,
from this is from a Starseed perspective,
we've been working on this human creation
to try to figure out how do we bring this human creation
upwards into consciousness so that it's a fully independent
conscious operating piece of divinity, right?
And the thing that's tricky about it
is that we have free will,
and we have this to go with personality.
We have this mind.
So how do we create something that has its own mind
and its own ability to choose
that doesn't end up causing mass destruction?
Clearly, we can see that this is a problem, right?
Because we see the planet, the way it is.
So what we're doing at a higher level is like
massaging and working through this creation
to bring it to higher levels of consciousness
so that it can be harmonious
with the rest of the life on the planet.
And in some parts of our creation, it has worked, right?
So there's like indigenous, some indigenous, not all,
but some indigenous populations, for example,
the Carol up in the high mountains of the Andes
have been able to lift their consciousness
into like right relationship, which they call I-ni,
A-Y-N-E or A-Y-N-I, depending how you spell it, I-ni.
And also moon-eye and moon-eye is unconditional love.
Moon-eye, M-U-N-A-Y, that's unconditional love.
And they were able to arrive at this unconditional love
that shamans and medicine people, despite having basically
everything taken away from them
during Spanish Inquisition and colonization.
That's amazing to be up in the middle of the high mountains
with nothing else, like basically poured
and impoverished by materialistic standards,
but like wealthy by love.
That's amazing.
So there's tribes of people that have been able to reach
these higher states of consciousness
by working with Mother Earth and working through their lessons
direct with Mother Earth and with the ancestors.
So this is my lineage that I've been adopted
in the Red-Headed Stepchild, been adopted into
as these Carol people.
And also work with the Wishawakah people as well in Mexico.
And they're another tribe that's been able to do
a lot of really good work.
And so we can learn from people who are willing to teach us
that are from these traditions.
And what we're learning as Western people is how to look
within for the wealth rather than acquisition from the outside
and also how to be in reciprocity in a different way.
So the problem with Western colonization
and the Western mindset is that it's like,
it's like a choir, a choir, a choir, it's consumerism
and it's Westward expansion and it's like taking over the world
and like it's also teamed up with Christian religion.
Like take it on, take it over, make everybody believe
and the way we believe and nothing else can exist outside of us.
That would be like the daisy saying, no more roses,
only daisies and like just going
and like decimating all other flowers, no more live.
Like, no, we only have daisies.
That's it, only daisies.
So we've had a lot of this proliferation of these ideas
and what it's caused is some interesting things
which are not to be like, caused out.
It's caused us to really have great technology, for example.
So because of the Western mind,
we have things like we're doing right now.
We have this ability to communicate all over the planet.
Right, that's beautiful.
And because of Western colonization
and the infiltration of all these communities,
this is like pretty much standard everywhere.
Right, so in some ways it created this infrastructure
that we can communicate across populations.
Also with the English language, right?
Like everybody being forced to speak English, you know?
It's like you have to learn English
and you have to learn about the Bible
if you want to like get food.
But we'll give it to you, only if you do this.
So in a way is helpful because now everyone's able
to pretty much speak a similar language with each other, right?
The problem is, is that we're all daisies.
And that's not the way the garden's meant to be.
The garden is meant to be, you know, all the flowers.
And not only just the ones that we know about
in the botany book, but like new flowers being created
all the time.
And the weeds too.
The weeds, the weeds reset the soil, you know?
The weeds come in and reset everything.
So we've kind of gotten to this place
where we only want to see the world a certain way
and we don't want to see it any other way.
That is what is being broken apart now.
In order for us to survive,
we've got to plug back into Mother Earth.
We had to kind of disrupt the conformity matrix
that has been formed.
We had to disrupt that conformity matrix
on all the ways it likes to express itself.
And we need to start listening inside
to follow the inner voice and the inner guidance,
get more into our bodies, get connected with the planet,
get back into that mycelial network.
That's why a lot of people are taking mushrooms right now,
you know, because you get plugged back
into the mycelial network of Earth,
which is like an underground internet.
And then you are able to understand things
at a different level.
You're able to go left instead of right.
You know, you're able to make this decision
instead of that decision.
And it supports you when you surrender to it.
So that is the part that we're in now
and why is that important?
Because we need to be tapped in to the planet
to get the wisdom in each of our own professions
that would support us in making key discoveries
or new realizations about how we can solve a problem
on the planet.
Also the realization that we need to solve these problems,
I mean, that's just the key one,
that we need to do something about it.
And that feeling the energy of the planet helps us
to know that like when we feel anger in our bodies,
we know something needs to change.
We know we need to make a change.
And that fire energy, that anger energy
is here to propel us to make the change, to do it, right?
And that is also why it's important to feel your feelings
and to feel all the things happening in your body.
This body is your mother earth farm, is your garden,
is your mother earth piece of garden.
And it's yours to tend and it's yours to listen to
and it's yours to get connected back to the planet.
Everybody has a normal piece of earth.
I got mine, you got yours, listen to our house yours.
We need to tend our garden.
And that includes everything that gets placed
in the garden by mother earth,
which includes emotions and all those things.
So yeah, we can't be afraid of negativity anymore
because then we're gonna be not in our bodies.
So a lot of people are in different stages, right?
Of their spiritual journey or awakening and their path,
but where, you know, the book that you talk,
that you wrote and that way you talk about is
how can we tap more into mother earth?
And as you just mentioned, in our own bodies
and create that awareness, what are some steps
for people that, you know, things that they can do
depending on where they are in the various stages
of their spiritual journey?
Absolutely.
So the first thing I started with
was opening sacred space every day as a practice, you know?
And for me, I always give an invocation in my books
to how to do it, but really ultimately
it's a conversation from your heart.
It's a relationship with the south,
a relationship with the west and the north and the east.
And when you have somebody that has a good relationship
with the directions and they introduce you to it,
it's like you're meeting a friend.
So you can feel their energy clearly, they come in.
When some people have visions and they see it,
I don't see the directions, like maybe mild vision.
I more like feel the energy of that direction
as it enters the space.
And when working with the directions,
it's just one way to start getting plugged into
what I call the mystery, and many people call the mystery,
which is the mother earth energy.
She is a mystery.
She teaches us in a very non-linear way our lessons, right?
So like you're saying, like people are different parts
of their path and what's right for one person
isn't gonna be right for another person.
That's why it's like tricky studying with a teacher,
especially if that teacher thinks they have your answer.
So if you have a teacher that thinks they have your answer,
you need to leave that teacher just saying,
because that's not true.
That's gonna be half the people that go to people,
by the way, because they usually book the sessions to say,
tell me what to do, tell me what to do.
And that's not the way to go about it.
No, I mean, you can get some help for a little while.
I mean, you're starting out,
and this whole guidance is good, right?
Like you do that and you're,
I'm sure you do an amazing job, Nicole,
because you're really insightful.
Getting a little nudge from a friend,
booking a session with a psychic
to get some information to get you started is awesome.
And I wanna encourage all the psychics and guides
listening to this.
The way to really up level what you're doing
at this time on the planet is to really,
like you're gonna see what you see
and you're seeing is clear,
but the person needs to learn how to see for themselves.
So do your best to ask questions, you know?
Ask good questions to help the person
arrive at themselves.
Help them to notice what's going on in their body
that's a sign, you know?
Like, oh, what are you feeling in your body?
Oh, I feel this.
Okay, what does that mean to you?
Go into that, you know?
It's like help guide the person
to get familiar with how their body is operating,
because Mother Earth is works in everybody's body,
not just mine or yours.
And I wanna add to that too on this little side tangent,
because it's very important,
is that I think sometimes people go to a practitioner
and they're saying, that's what I'm paying you for,
is to give me the answers or to give me this information.
And if you're approaching it that way,
like you said, a nudge is one thing,
but I have questions for people,
not just for me as a person and as a human being
and a spiritual being,
but also because their guides and angels
are asking them those questions
because exactly what you're doing,
there's an empowerment behind it and a teaching
and an evolution for people to understand.
The answer isn't always in this crystal ball
and this knowing in that moment in time,
because we, as you mentioned, have free will and choice,
so we can make those different decisions
and take a wholly different approach
and our energy and perspective changes, right?
Absolutely, and I understand, believe me,
when you're in the dark and you're frustrated
and you're hurting and you just want it to stop,
you do wanna just call and somebody be like,
please just help me clear this.
1-800-Scikic.
1-800-Scikic, like, but the thing is that
don't you wanna develop that skill yourself
so that when the middle of the night
when your psyche is not available,
you can resolve the challenge you're having
because you have a good relationship with your allies
and in my case, if you walk the path of inner medicine,
it's the four directions.
It's jaguar, it's hummingbird, it's serpent,
it's eagle condor, you know, I mean,
these are allies that come into your field
and start to support you in your body
to understand how your body works
and don't you want to know how you work?
I mean, you wanna find your own truth
so you can take your own epic adventure
into the wild of your consciousness
and turn out your own hero heroine's journey
of like who you're meant to be on this planet for all of us.
Yes, absolutely.
So you were saying that you set up a sacred space
and there's a sacred ritual in the morning
that you go to and you gravitate towards every day.
So that's kind of a first step or something
that allows us to connect not just with ourselves
but with the energy around us.
What else?
Exactly.
And what it also does is it opens the door.
It says, I am willing to receive guidance and support.
I am willingly inviting allies to create situations
in my life that are very obviously part of my curriculum
so that I can learn and grow.
That when you open sacred spaces, what does that says?
It's like the permission.
It's like giving the universe permission.
Exactly.
Because the universe is super respectful
and so it's not gonna violate your autonomy.
So you have to invite regularly.
Otherwise it doesn't show up.
So I invited every day.
I invited it on the beginning of every healing session.
I invited it here before we started this broadcast
because I wanna be in the highest and best
for everybody listening and I'm aware
that my lower consciousness, my personality self,
although she means really well, she's got her filters, right?
Whereas my higher consciousness is really, really clear
because it has a timeless perspective.
So I wanna be inviting my higher consciousness
and my higher guides and the medicine people beyond the veil
because they have that visibility that I only see
through my eyes and through my specific lens.
And so I wanna be coming all the time as much as possible
from the totality, from the higher perspective,
from the totality of me, while not ignoring my human perspective
or judging it or shaming and or blaming it.
So our human perspective is like what our soul came here to be
in this lifetime and the soul chose you.
So I just, if nobody hears anything else,
like please stop judging your egoic personality
because your soul designed you to be exactly who you are,
to have a set of experiences through you as you,
for you, by your soul so that you can learn something new
in this lifetime and have experiences
that you want to let have.
So you are beloved, you are the vessel
through which your soul is experiencing existence
in this lifetime.
That is a huge honor, a huge privilege
to be that chosen one by your soul.
And so like let that in, you are exactly wanted the way you are.
If you're a hot mess, your soul wants you that way.
You're perfect that way.
There's like your soul is not judging you at all.
Like you're exactly what your soul wants.
Personality is such ourselves all the time
because they're like our souls are so perfect
and we're so impertied.
So what else?
So you said like the sacred space
and creating that sort of approach
helps not just open you up,
but to also be consciously more aware of what's going on.
I would kind of equate that to at least
because I somewhat like the definitions reading energy
or being able to kind of pick up on that around you
because as soon as you said, not just the physical
and what we could see with our eyes,
but what else is around us, those emotions, right?
The other kind of feelings and things that we pick up.
So there's that and then through that, that opens up
and gives permission to the University
and our spirit and or mother earth
to engage with us and give us direction and guide us,
but also to allow us, I'm assuming probably
to not just connect with ourselves,
but with these other energies and things, right?
And so that would be the first, almost the biggest step
also for consistency.
What other things can people do?
Yeah, so I think that a big part of the work
is to realize that there's different levels of perception
that you can engage with life as.
So if you engage with life the way most people do
on the planet up until now, it's kind of like
the beta brain, the thinking brain, the, you know,
this is a phone, this is a lighter,
this is my physical reality, that's all there is.
You're kind of at that level and life is very like
unmagical and predictable and dense.
And it's like really constrictive and it's got a lot of rules
and it's part of a whole matrix of conformity
that keeps you in this like little cage
of like what you should be experiencing
and who you think you are and your role in life.
And, you know, it's specifically designed
to also keep you stressed out and in some fear
or some apprehension because it moves, you know,
it has a lot of expectations about how you should be behaving
and it kind of keeps poking at you a lot.
And it also is like things that we take for granted
and we think are really reasonable
but they're actually just creating a ton of stress.
Like for example, if you have a boss that's always watching
like exactly when you get into the office or, you know,
if you're, have to drive to work because you can't work
at home, well that's like a lot of added stress, right?
You have to, and it seems to be designed
to keep adding those stresses, right?
Like your HOA is requiring your grass to be mowed
to a certain level at all times
and not have anything in your perfect concrete driveway
except concrete, things like that,
that we take for granted as, well that's just the way it is
because we have to have a green lawn.
Well, who said we had to have a green lawn?
Somebody said that, right?
And then that creates a whole nother set of expectations
for how things should be.
There's a lot of things we take for granted
that create a lot of stress.
And that's like the normal reality, that's the matrix living.
And so when you start to explore your intuition
and your psychicness and you connect with Mother Earth,
you open up different dimensions of reality
that don't adhere to those rules.
No, they don't operate that way.
They don't operate by a clock.
They don't operate by this kind of perfection matrix
that you should do exactly this all the time.
And as a matter of fact, the deeper you go into it,
the more you access levels of your humanity
that have been very repressed and denied.
And it's only through accessing and unlocking
these levels of your humanity that have been repressed
and denied that you get, you kind of unlock some keys
of your awakening process.
So when you first slip into this other level of awareness,
what happens first is synchronicity, right?
Like you get connected to synchronicity,
you're like, there's no way that could have happened.
That's when people start to see repeating signs,
symbols, numbers, whatever.
And then they're like, ooh, that whole magical world opens up.
The magical world opens up.
And then after that, you start beginning to listen,
but you don't like what you're hearing.
Because what it's telling you is you have to do something
that's gonna bring you outside of conformity
with the matrix that you're in.
And if you're out of conformity with the matrix,
the matrix is gonna be unhappy with you
and you know you're gonna get pushed back
because you're not doing it the way everyone expects you
to do it or you're not being whoever one expects you to be
or you're doing something that's quote weird or unusual
or you're talking about things that are weird or unusual
or whatever it is, like me publishing my first book.
I was actually just gonna ask you what was yours.
What was the, I mean, I'm sure you and I have had multiple,
but like what was your book?
Yeah.
It was really like writing, awakening to me.
That book was outing myself for all of my self-destructive
patterns.
And the reason my soul told me I was writing it
is so that I could chart the course out of madness.
Oh gosh, that's their tall order.
That is really interesting.
Okay, but everyone's gonna know my stuff.
And so it was really vulnerable and transparent
to have to write that book.
And my family was like, you can write that book,
but don't publish it.
Like you don't want people knowing that stuff about you.
Yeah, exactly.
Just like a journal that nobody sees.
Yeah.
And people were really and still armed.
Some people are still mad at me for doing that.
So, you know, so I had to do it though,
because my soul was telling me to do it.
And I had to do it.
It's like, it's a choiceless choice.
Like if I stop following what my soul is telling me,
I'm gonna get some two-by-fours, you know,
it's just gonna show up in my path
or I'm just flat out gonna lose my magic
in my desire to be alive because it's just like,
well, I'm just gonna blend in with everybody else
and I don't really wanna be here.
So by following your soul's nudges,
which are gonna make you uncomfortable
because it's gonna out you as not conforming,
that is actually the pathway to your power.
And that is the pathway to your awakening.
So then that's the next step, right?
So you get those nudges like, hey,
you have to do something uncomfortable for you
and it's gonna out you as not following the matrix anymore.
Well, the first one I've, and I just interrupt you,
and sorry, I don't mean to be rude about that,
but I just wanna make sure we don't lose this point
is when we first talked in the very first interview
in an episode of When You Were On The Psychic Store,
is you changing your last name, the hummingbird.
And that being kind of like that first part
because you felt it so much in your soul
and the reason why, because that was the identity
that you had.
And you got a lot of pushback, not just from Western,
but also indigenous cultures and other things
because it was, right?
Red hair, white woman, what's she doing?
Yeah, how can you claim hummingbird?
And it's like, well, but you know,
but then again, like the Carol people,
known as Down in a Peru with them,
they, one of the shamans looked at me green
because he could see it.
So he doesn't argue with me about it
because he can see the hummingbird.
It's like, this hummingbird is with me all the time.
It's telling me like, this is what I need to do.
So I just have to follow it because it's my messenger guide.
Like I'm, that's who I am in this lifetime.
So some people can see it and some people can't.
So that's another point I just wanna say is like,
yeah, when you're starting to follow the medicine wheel,
you might get some pushback.
Like you might get in some indigenous people say,
you can't be doing that.
That's not your tradition.
You're not allowed.
And that comes from wounding.
That comes from deep, deep wounding that is unhealed,
unaddressed, unreconciled, un, like unprocessed and denied,
which is even worse, like denied by our overall culture.
So there's a really good reason why some indigenous people
are really, really angry and like rageful
because of we have not ever addressed the fact
that we took over the United States and South America
and pretty much all over the world,
away from indigenous people,
then raped, tortured and pillaged them.
Like that's just not, that's not owned.
So we need to own that, you know, as a society
and we need to make restitution for that.
Now that aside, there are some people, as I mentioned,
there's some tribes where they overcame that real deep rage
and they turned it into something beautiful,
like the Carol people, which is why the Carol people,
they just give from their hearts because they see
that this is part of their souls mastery plan for them
in their lineage and that they never forgot who they were.
They never forgot their star nation's assignment
to be here on the earth to anchor the rainbow light.
They never, ever forgot that.
Now those of us on the path,
we go in and out of realization all the time.
But this community, they've been able to stay strong
and connected with the land, which is one of their benefits.
They never had to move up, they weren't displaced
off of their homelands.
They were pushed into deeper recesses of their homelands,
but they were accessing their ancestors and the homelands.
And so they never lost touch with that knowing.
So there are some traditions like that,
which are very happy to guide.
Like I have a Carol medicine man who works in his wife
that work with my people to support us
and his family supports us in the work
that we're doing a therically
and the ancestors and the lineage of this,
these people support us all the time.
Now, sometimes that's not gonna be possible.
So if you really wanna learn indigenous practice
and you're running up against indigenous people
who are like, you know, really angry
and they're not really wanting to invite you in,
don't push that door in, like leave them be.
They are going through a massive time of healing right now.
Like let them be, send lights and love, you know,
just love them, be courteous towards them,
be graceful towards them,
be respectful towards them, they deserve respect.
And don't let it stop you from connecting with Mother Earth
because Mother Earth has told me very, very clearly,
this medicine is for every human on the planet right now.
So I'm willing to teach it.
I'm not the only person that's willing to teach it.
There's lots of teachers that are willing to teach it.
Some of the indigenous people get upset
if they see a white person teaching it, you know,
but listen, our ancestors who were Celtic,
they also were close to the land.
They also were connected with Mother Gaia.
And just about, I don't think of like most of the people
on this continent of the United States
have been displaced from our home lands,
including the indigenous people.
Everybody has been displaced.
So I think that's interesting as a cultural phenomenon
as like, I know that nothing is out of alignment
with Mother Earth, nothing happens by mistake.
So I start to ask myself questions like,
why would it be that everybody on this continent
has been displaced?
What is the alchemy that she's asking us to have?
I believe the alchemy is to embrace each other,
embrace the unique thumbprint,
start to really respect each other,
give freedom and tolerance to everyone,
and really honor the founding agreements of this country,
even though they were based in complete shite,
and we all know it,
but like honoring the intent of those original words
and bringing them to fruition in this time
to actually make them real for everyone in this country,
I think is the most important thing.
And our pathway again is by connecting with Mother Earth,
cause she's gonna give us the answer,
she's gonna tell us.
There's many times I connect with Mother Earth,
my mind thinks something should be one way.
I get quiet and still I go into the hollow bone,
I use my pendulum a lot of times
just to get my mind out of the way,
and I ask the question of Mother Earth directly on the Earth,
and I ask her, and she tells me the opposite of what I thought.
And I'm just like, well, why is that?
And then I get, you know,
so get good at asking questions.
But if we just go on our minds,
we're probably gonna be going in the wrong direction
is what I'm trying to say.
How do you feel either you personally
and or how others can feel that connection to Mother Earth?
What does she feel like?
I think I can probably tune into a few instances,
but I don't think I'm as connected as I should be,
need to do my own inner medicine work there,
but what does it feel like to you?
Cause you just mentioned you ask questions
and sometimes you use your pendulum,
but on a deeper sense,
how does it feel when you have that connection?
At this point, it's very embodied for me,
and like Mother Earth will even move my body.
Like because I've got such a,
you know, people with minds that are very active
as I have had in my life need stronger guidance.
And so sometimes the guidance I get is like,
I will actually get a full, like my head will just go,
nope, and then I'll ask again and I'll go, yep.
And it'll be very emphatic, like it's no doubting it.
You know, it's very strong.
And it's the same guidance that comes in the middle of sessions
and it's not what I'm thinking, right?
So that for me is like, okay,
so the more that I'm really in
and I'm inviting Mother Earth and I'm acknowledging
that this is her vessel, like I'm in her vessel.
The body, the actual physical human body got it.
I'm in Mother Earth suit.
That's called carry.
Okay. So like my soul is in this suit that's programmed
with a personality called carry,
but the body is Mother Earth.
Like it's not my body, it's Mother Earth's body.
It's my avatar and the planet speaks through my body.
The same the planet speaks through the floor,
the same the planet speaks through the crystals
and the animals.
This may not be new to you,
but this is blowing my mind because it's new to me.
So that's why I'm just looking at you like,
oh, okay, this is resonating.
Yes.
Yeah, because you're feeling it in your body,
it's waking your body up to go, oh, that's right.
My body is made of earth.
It seems obvious.
It really does.
Like, I mean, in your mind, you think, okay,
I was in a womb and I was birthed
and I'm a human physical being,
but I'm also this spiritual beings.
We talk about it, but when we actually,
that totally makes sense as I just hit my microphone.
Yeah, gong, that was a gong.
So when this is the divine kiss, if you think about it,
the body is earth, which is she, her,
the spirit is your energy, right?
And then it merges into the body
and then the two become you in your totality
for the temporary existence of your vessel
for your incarnation plan.
And why does the brain have all of this area
that we don't know what's in there?
Probably because it's storing all of your ancestral
experiences, all of your past lives,
all the stuff you need to have access to
for this incarnation and anything you have baggage
that you need to heal and a whole bunch of ancestral wisdom
that you can tap into when you're ready.
Like it's got everything in it that you need.
It's like a backpack filled with your library books
for this like class.
It's like you're a classic records.
It is like you're traveling a classic records.
So in your, the ancestral wisdom is usually
in your teeth and your bones.
It's in the really dense places inside of you
because think about where else would it,
it's like a really gigabyte drive,
but it's like terra and terra and terra-bice of data
that is being stored that you can access.
And when you do like in the cache of records healing
or you do like a like a QHHT,
which is quantum healing and hypnosis technique
or anything like that, yeah,
it's tapping into your cache of records,
but where does that live?
Is it off some place, ethereally like out here?
No, it's like right here inside your vessel.
Why would it be disconnected from you?
It would be where you are
because you're living that incarnation.
So you can't escape it.
It's a brilliant design if you think about it
because Mother Earth is our teacher
and we're in her body and she knows everything
that we're thinking and feeling and processing.
So there's no point in lying about anything anymore
because you're only delaying the inevitable
which is your awakening.
So you might as well just say,
I know you're here with me and you know,
you're guiding me and thank you very much.
And it's ingenious if you think about that system
is so ingenious that you can't escape your teacher.
Like there's no escaping.
There's really not.
Now I have a couple of questions there.
So then what is or where is God source energy
or is it all the same?
If Mother Earth is Mother Earth
and then our physical body,
so how is that intersect with everything?
I think that it's different experiences
is what I feel in my soul.
Like I know in my soul I've been on other planets
and I've had other lifetimes and other planets
and other experiences.
And I, and anybody who's had like past life regression,
sometimes you end up on other planets
and you're like, oh my gosh, I was on this planet.
A completely different kind of experience.
So that's kind of like a different teacher, right?
It could different experience.
And so we're like currently here having this experience.
Now my colleague Jennifer Huff,
who contributed a chapter to the second wave book,
she's a physicist, so she's more of a scientific one.
But she said this to me, which really struck me
that Einstein was always trying to solve the equation
of where, you know, what is the universe
and where is it and all this.
And they actually just solved it
by placing the universe inside of you.
It's actually the perfect equation.
So at the center of every one of your 75 trillion cells
is the universe.
So you're never without the universe
because it's at the center of every single one
of your 75 trillion cells,
but you're currently in an Earth suit
because you're having an Earth experience.
And if you think that you can take your Earth suit
to live on another planet.
And that's why the universe is infinite
or the galaxy's infinite,
because it's like inward outward, inward outward everywhere.
It's the infinity symbol, it's in and out, in and out.
And but right now you're in an Earth suit.
You're not gonna take that Earth suit
and go to Mars and live successfully for very long.
You know, it's kind of like, if you're gonna do that,
you'd have to have some really excellent biology
to like fuse together your Earthling form
with in some kind of Petri dish with like life on Mars, right?
Like so it's people just are not,
I'll tell you what that is.
People wanted to escape to other planets.
They wanna escape their teacher.
They wanna escape their cells curriculum
because it's too difficult.
Well, they're also realizing that they're deteriorating
and they're killing Mother Earth and everything around us
and they don't wanna have the acceptance with it either.
And their role that they played.
And this is the part we're at now.
So thanks for sharing that.
Cause that's exactly where we go next.
It's time to fess up.
We are in therapy with Carrie Hummingbird.
Let's fess up our sins.
I was kidding.
This isn't really about blame or shame
or anything like that.
It's really just the truth that when you start to see
the writing on the wall of all the decisions
that humanity has made,
you have to do one of two things.
Either a give up,
right and go out of victim
or you say, okay,
I'm gonna take 100% responsibility
for doing my part to help resolve the challenges on Earth.
And in your own life, period.
If that's where you start,
your own life, right, your own self and then Earth.
And that is doing it.
Like the first stop is you.
So as you do your work, your shadow work,
and you own the mistakes that you made,
most of the, like let's just extrapolate this idea.
So when we have this ease in the body,
it's largely because of unprocessed emotional content,
largely.
Most disease is caused by denied repressed emotion,
which is because we don't wanna own our stuff, right?
So if something happened, don't wanna feel it, right?
It's traumatic and I understand that one is feel trauma,
but we don't wanna feel it.
And if we're not willing to feel it to heal it
or to take, learn the tools of self mastery
to clear that stuff,
then it stacks up like ancestrally
and then it doesn't move anywhere.
And then pretty soon you'll have a generation
where they're really sick and they're really suicidal.
That's what we have right now.
Look around the planet.
There's so many people doing that right now, so many.
Cutting and being depressed
and being addicted to substances to trance out,
to not face things because it's too painful
because so many people couldn't feel the pain
all the way up until now.
I'm not blaming the ancestors whatsoever.
But those of us who came in at this time
with a great awakening, whether or not you realize it now,
you said yes to that.
You said yes to turning it around.
You said yes to embodying, feeling the pain,
doing your personal work,
opening up your psychic skills,
becoming even more sensitive,
becoming even more refined,
clearing the next level of pain and just as we go,
refinement, clearing, refinement, clearing,
sensitivity, clearing.
You agree to that.
And the reason we need to do that
is to restore health to the body.
So when you actually feel your feelings,
you get healthier, you look younger,
you lose wrinkles.
Look at me, how do you think I am?
It's like people think I'm 40.
You're 20.
20.
I'm 53.
How old do you think I am?
How old do you think I am?
I'm thinking here like 20.
How old do you?
25.
45.
Oh, see?
Look at us, we look young.
Why did we look young?
Life force energy.
Life force energy returns when you clear the stuff
out of your way, out of your, you process it.
You transmute it, you alchemize it.
You claim the wisdom from that trauma.
You claim the wisdom from the wound.
You get strong and resilient.
And then you start to glow life force
and then gratitude shows up in your heart.
And when you feel grateful for your life,
you share gratitude and appreciation with everything.
And Mother Earth is an appreciation.
That's a ripple effect.
So what you appreciate appreciates
and that creates positive, beautiful energy on the earth, right?
And so now you're in the flow of creating beauty.
You're in the flow of creating positive from negative.
And that is what we're here to do.
And when you do that,
how does that influence the environment?
Because you start appreciating the trees and the flowers
and the neighbor and your boss and your mother
and you start just be coming in.
What you're eating and what you're throwing out
away in the trash, there's just respect
in addition to appreciation.
It's respect too.
And you respect yourself and you honor yourself.
And when you honor the temple that you are,
you're honoring your piece of Mother Earth,
your garden of Mother Earth.
You become a healthy cell in the body of Mother Earth.
Healthy cells in the body of Mother Earth
help more cells to become healthy
because we are always light bombing each other.
We're always light bombing each other
with like beautiful light, right?
So whatever you've learned inside your little bubble
of healthy cell, you transmit through light photons
to others with your voice, with your light, with everything.
So you're infecting everybody with love at that point
instead of disease.
So that is how it changes.
And then when you're conscious,
when you do all this personal work
and you reclaim your light, you become more conscious.
And when you become more conscious,
you use a different part of your brain,
which is the frontal cortex,
which is the higher reasoning.
You start using that brain instead of the reactionary brain.
And when you're like that, you make different decisions.
And the decisions you make are about
how will this decision affect not only myself,
but my family, my planet, the animals,
seven generations from now.
And this is how the indigenous people think.
When they make decisions, they take a long time
to make that decision.
Because it's not just about them as an individual.
Because it's not just about them as an individual.
It's about the whole collective.
But in order to make that leap,
we have to first stop being conformist.
And we have to become sovereign,
which seems like a separation,
but it's actually just releasing the false things
you took on to conform,
so that you can be your true light and voice in the world.
And then you can step into being the one that dreams
for seven generations from now from that place.
So there's a series of steps
that people are being led through
in order to arrive at oneness with Earth.
And this is one of the last, as far as I know,
I mean, what else is there?
Last step of the process, right?
I mean, maybe I'll find out something else
as we go along, but it seems to me
like this seems to be like the last step.
So maybe we'll find out.
Thank you very much for this.
Because you're putting a lot of pieces
of the puzzle together for me that I,
you kind of, the way I receive information
is I get breadcrumbs, right?
So you understand how everything kind of fits together,
but giving this whole picture,
this perspective is very helpful.
You mentioned and used the word sovereign
for people that aren't familiar with it.
Can you share a little bit about that
with the meaning is behind it?
I know you teed it upright beautifully,
but for people that maybe need a little bit more clarification.
So when you're sovereign,
what that means is that you no longer make decisions
out of conformity or codependency
or because you want to be loved by someone else
or because you're sourcing from outside yourself.
When you're sovereign,
you're making decisions based on the inner voice
that you have, the inner knowing,
the intuition, the insight, the inner world
and inner includes your body, which is Mother Earth.
So whatever your master teacher is teaching you
through your body and through that inner voice,
you're making the decision from that first
and that makes you sovereign.
So for example, you might be a person that goes against the grain
when everybody else is calling for,
let's say that you put something in your arm
and you say, my body is telling me no.
And that is scary to say that in a population that's afraid
and wants you to put that thing in your arm,
but you're hearing no from Mother Earth
and from your body and you adhere to that.
So that is what it means to be sovereign.
It means to follow that inner guidance.
Stand in your truth.
Exactly, no matter what the consequence on the outside,
to stand in your own truth and also not project it
as anybody else's truth because when you're sovereign,
you respect everybody as having their own journey
with Mother Earth, that unique thumbprint journey
that is theirs, you can't especially please hear this again.
You gotta say it again, if you have anybody
who's kind of like telling you to go against
what you know to be true inside of yourself
and they're like your teacher or something like that,
I would really encourage you to second thing that
because you need to follow the guidance coming to you.
That's your guidance.
And that's what I wouldn't a lot of people say,
that resonates with me.
It's because they're tuning into their own self
and some things clicking to say, aha, I get it.
It's feeling like it's the, I don't wanna say right or wrong
but it's feeling centered in an alignment with my truth
and where I need to go and my part of my soul.
It's no longer about like right versus wrong,
like we're dissolving that matrix.
Well, I just used it, right, correct, correct, yes.
But yeah, we can agree, we feel resonant with that.
But it's really more about tuning in
to your own inner guidance system
and following that voice
and trusting the path that you're meant to follow.
Because basically when you follow that inner voice
you get led through a series of initiations
that are actually necessary for you to discern
the right thing for you.
And it's really about learning to listen to your body,
listen to Mother Earth and listen to your soul.
Like as a priority.
And then everything else just kind of resolves itself
eventually because you're gonna have conflicts with people,
people are gonna be upset
that you're not going along anymore.
That also is an initiation.
You're gonna have to maybe lose some people
for a little while that can't respect your choice.
That is an initiation.
And all of it's happening to put you with your roots
down in the earth as a sovereign being able
to access your source and your truth.
So that you might need to stand up and say something
difficult in your family system
or difficult in your community.
You might need to protest something
and you might need to stand in your conviction about that.
You might need to lead some movement or something.
Who knows what you're meant to do
but you gotta be able to trust that voice inside
above everything else.
Trust yourself.
Trust your capital as self, absolutely.
Yes, I've also heard that message many, many times.
Trust yourself, usually with a little pat on the Will Center.
It's just been coming up more recently.
That's why I set out so emphatically as I was like,
oh my gosh, yes.
So it's amazing how often not just myself
but other people like yourself get those messages
and then that just resonates and it clicks in place
at the right time.
Exactly.
This what we're here to do right now
at this time on the planet.
So this is what inner medicine is all about.
That's why I wrote the book.
I had my own journey to inner medicine.
Nicole, you might not know this about me but.
No, I wanna hear it.
This is where I was gonna go next.
What happened as you were writing the book?
Oh my gosh, all my crap came up with my face
but it still is by the way
because I wrote it and it's out there now.
So I get to be the exemplar of my own teachings, right?
That's how it works.
But I used to be that person
that would ask everybody else what I should do
before I would just go in and sit with myself.
I would ask every other person thinking
that they knew the answer more than I did what I should do
and that's really why I spun out for 20 years
on a couch in weekly psychotherapy sessions
because I thought this person must know
how to live better than I know how to live.
Meanwhile, they have their own therapist.
Yeah, meanwhile, now I found that out later
because one of my relatives became a psychotherapist
and she acted at a way towards me that I was like shocked
and I was like, oh my goodness.
I was listening to all these psychotherapists.
So I wanna say, let's not judge psychotherapists
but just say like every person is their own person
and they have their own path.
And so we self-select people that we need
in order to learn a particular lesson.
My lesson was to trust myself.
And so I self-selected therapists who largely
kind of let me go on and on and on about my stuff
and never actually redirected me.
And I spun out like in my own story
because I needed to learn about the stories
I tell create my reality.
And I sure did learn that
because it created a really awful reality for a while.
So now I use my spider medicine to create something better.
And this book was really about putting together
what I've learned from many teachers
over the course of 12 years since I left my former life
and stepped into the mystery,
took the journey myself.
I chart the course for people,
taking the journey, taking the wake up call,
moving into the great departure,
letting go of everything you thought you knew,
even your identity.
That's very vulnerable.
Coming into the vision quest, who am I really?
Show me spirit.
And then ending with the bid for power
and then going around the great spiral again
back to the beginning, back to the south,
through the west, through the north and through the east
and letting yourself be in that cycle, that process
without like trying to anticipate some end destination
of linear form that our brain likes to do.
So I went through the process and read in the book
in stepping deeper into the medicine
so I could hold space for more people
to go into the medicine.
And I ended up doing some big soul retrieval work
on myself too, past life soul retrieval
that I talk about in the book
for my lifetime on the Trail of Tears,
which was really traumatic.
And I was jerky and it was very traumatic
to see my people and to feel the loss
of everything that we had ever had.
It was very traumatic.
And it's taken lifetimes to get over that, you know?
And so I also really wanna honor anybody
that's like listening to this saying,
I think I have some big healing to do.
I think I need the whaling tree.
I think I need to cry.
I need to scream.
I need to let it out.
My ancestors are calling through me.
My past lives are calling through me.
I have all this pain I need to release.
And I wanna open to myself in the vision quest.
I wanna know who I might be in New Earth,
what we could create together.
I just honor you for even being willing to ask the question
because it's a bold, courageous journey into the mystery
to answer those questions.
And it's worth it.
I mean, it's so worth it to take the journey.
And I just applaud everybody that's here
on this time on the planet
because it's a big work that we're doing.
Well, I wanna say thank you and honor you for doing your work
and taking the process
and also writing the book.
And also just the congratulations again
and having to be an international bestseller.
And that does not surprise me
and all the things that you shared with us here today.
Just thank you very much.
Thank you so much.
Thanks for celebrating that.
I'll just share like my first number one for this book
was in Australia.
So thank you, Australia.
I love you, bucket loads.
And the best part about it was that I was number one.
Yeah, I saw that at first that it was Australian.
I was like, go girl.
And then the next thing, it was like international.
So yeah.
Yeah, because it was like the US pretty much right after that.
And then I wasn't,
I didn't see myself being number one in Canada, Canadians.
Come on now, but or Germany, what's up Germany?
But I did see it in the US.
And I was so proud
because I don't know if you saw this on social,
but I took this picture of,
it was a big moment for me
because the mystery school teachings are,
well, they're really close to my heart.
I mean, this is a big deal to teach medicine.
Medicine, it's like,
it's like you're entering the temple of the great mother
and you're like,
no small feet.
It's very honoring.
It's like, it can be intimidating,
but you took it like a rock star.
It is.
It's like, oh my goodness.
And I'm gonna, you're allowing me,
really allowing me to serve you in this way.
I am so blessed.
And then to see,
because I've studied with some highly integrous teachers,
to see my listing among the,
all of my teachers' books,
I took a picture of it.
I was like, this is just too much for me.
I love this.
And I'm like,
I almost want to frame it and put it in my wall.
Like this is my shining moment
and listen with all of my teachers.
It was cool, man.
Well, you're being rewarded for the work
from Mother Earth, from Gaia,
from the teachers that taught you
and the lifetimes before.
And that's what it's all about is,
and I don't hear any ego in that.
It's truly because you're feeling honored
and respected as well.
Like you just said, that ripple energy back,
which you give out and you receive and vice versa.
So I want to say thank you for sharing
and doing what you do.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
Okay, Carrie.
Well, how can people reach you
and where can they get your book?
Absolutely. Thanks for asking that.
You can reach me at carryhomingbird.com,
K-E-R-R-I, hummingbird.com.
And you can look on Amazon to find the book,
Intermedicine.
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you want to check it out
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Yes, well, I will include all of that in the show notes.
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