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Mysticism is justified.
Hi everyone. Welcome to another episode of a psychic story. For this episode, I have Christina
Chris Lefkin on. Chris has been a medium since she was a child. She is the author of Live With Purpose,
Die With Dignity, The Ripple Effect, Stories From the Heart, and Me and Mr. P, Our Journey from
Hospice Volunteer and Patient to Forever Friends. She is a certified Ricky Master teacher of the
Usui tradition and a spiritual life coach and teacher. Chris divinely guides clients by assisting
them in healing, discovering their life purpose and teaching students to tap into their intuition.
And she's a dear friend of mine. Welcome back to a psychic story, Chris.
Thank you, Nicole. It's great to be here. It was an honor.
Well, I needed to also include in the intro that we are dear friends or you're a dear friend of
mine ever since we first had you on or I first had you on on a psychic story where we talked about
grief is just unexpressed love, episode 70. So before we kind of dive into your book, which is
what we're here to talk about, Road Noise, a spiritual awakening, messages to the living from
loved ones who have died. How have you been since you've been on? What has happened since
Skash was a year ago, right? Right. Exactly. Wow. Well, first of all, that was the most amazing
response from the first episode. And what really endeared me was some people reached out and told me
they this motivated them to become hospice volunteers, which that's that's good. That just gives me
my truth. And one person said he was so relieved to know that our pets live on and that we can
have communication with them. And so what an another person sent me a tie class from the
Seattle World Fair that was her father's and she just knew when she was packing things away after
he passed that she needed to send it to someone in particular. And when she heard my episode,
she messaged me or you know, me and she said it to me and I just it just shows how connected we all
are and what a value that this podcast has that we are all teachers and students. And that's kind
of my my life lesson, of course. And you're never too old to learn to us. And it's just been kind
of a whirlwind ever since. Well, it's been a whirlwind for me too, in the sense that hearing
you receive those messages from people both living and dead from the other side and how
everything has expanded even in your life. I just want to say thank you again for being on and
also for sharing that with me and for our friendship, which I definitely hold very dear.
So let's get into your book Road Noise, a spiritual awakening messages to the living from loved ones
who have died. You put in the preface how it kind of came about, but for those who don't have the
book yet and have not read it. What happened and what led you to write it?
Okay, well, when I first started years ago, realizing that it was okay to show that I had
these abilities and really start focusing on developing them and embracing them. And then
would start having experiences and my husband said, you know, Mike, you get an idea for you
to write this down. And then he just kind of said, well, you never know you might want to write a book.
And I just kind of laughed at that, right? And so in 2004, I started writing this book
and then life happened and I thought, well, this is just everyday stuff. This is something
that can be spent. So what that proved to me fast forward to today and that is because I had to live
all of the years from 2004 until today to have all the experiences lived and then I could actually
include everything. Because my idea and my attention around this book is to help the readers understand
that we all have an intuitive ability to encourage them to develop it and believe in their own
gut instinct, whatever they want to call it. And the other thing is to provide hope to others
that their loved ones do live on. They're not gone. They're just in a different form.
That the love remains and that they will be united and that includes pets.
So that's kind of how all of this. And then of course, I had to meet you and have all of these
experiences as well. And as a side note, I truly value our dear friendship as well.
Thank you. Walk us through the book a little bit and how it's structured because a lot of it is
your experiences and what you've kind of experienced and learned over time, but then also stories
from yourself and other people and how is it structured and walk us through it.
Started out from the beginning to my childhood and experiences that I had and then the fact that
I learned that we don't talk about those things, that's just your imagination. You're just over
sensitive, highly sensitive, you know, that type of thing. And I just, I think that a lot of us,
I just back down and said, okay, whatever. And then when I started, you know, capturing the
different experiences that I had, then all of a sudden I met Mr. Peterson. And I made a deathbed
promise to him that I would write a book about him. And I thought, how am I going to do that?
I've only known this man for a few months or whatever.
And for people that don't know about Mr. Peterson or Mr. P, can you just take a moment to explain
a little bit about him? Oh, yes, sorry. He was a hospice patient of mine. And I was assigned to him
to do foot massage to just sort of help him relax and everything he was definitely in the end stages
of life. But just a very active person, no matter what. And the minute that he opened the door,
my first visit, I saw white light all around him. And I was just standing and I went, oh, boy,
this is this is something different. And then as I entered and we sat down, he wanted to interview
me a little bit before I touched him. Understandable. And so I somehow I mentioned to him that I had
seen the white light around him and he goes, wow, well, honey, I saw the same around you.
And that was the beginning of a totally different life after me. So he helped me embrace that. And
so the book, Road Noise, first of all, Road Noise, the name came from my husband, Dave, who
is so analytical. So he would want to know what the noise was when somebody was trying to speak to me.
And he just kept asking me these great questions until I finally said it's like I'm we're driving
down the freeway and we stop and it's that raw, raw kind of noise. And he said, oh, well, that's all
I have to say is this road noise. And that really resonated with me. So that's how the title came.
And then the book just kind of moves forward to my to my different experiences and the
the experiences of mind to mind communication. And I didn't understand what's really happening.
You know, talking to people in my head thinking that that I hear them out loud when nobody else does.
Moving forward to going going through doing readings and I'm usually the one that's the most
surprised at the messages or that that I've received something. And then just sort of learning how
to deal with it, learning how to protect myself, everything went far there once I
enhanced once I did my Reiki master feature level, then that was when it really started to
be more in tune. And as I age, I just, you know, it's probably what's going on in the world too,
but it just becomes more fine too. Excuse me. And then there's the value of the messages. There's
messages in there regarding suicide. There's messages in there regarding bullying. So there's some
serious things in the book that that my spirit team and my guys and and those that have crossed over
requested me to put in there. So and since it's been published, I have had several of those,
well, quite a few of those spirits come back and thank me. So that's encouraging as well.
So that's kind of the basic, I guess. No, I love it. Thank you for that. Because obviously I read it.
I had the pleasure and honor of writing a testimonial about it. So but for people who are just now
hearing about it and haven't had chance to read it, I think it's helpful to hear the structure of
it and what to expect. But I would love to go back a little bit about intuition. You said
something which you know, I fully believe I've said this on the podcast almost every episode.
We all have psychic abilities or intuition. It's within us. It's a part of us. It's who we are,
right? Our soul essence and explain a little bit about your belief system and what you've
experienced not just with your own intuition, but with others from your perspective. What is
intuition and how does it show up and what does it look like? That is one of my main goals as well
that I didn't get this information is to that I spent a lot of time teaching others to believe
in themselves. I say I do believe that we're born with it. I had an experience that was, you know,
that I wrote about in when I was eight years old when my father had a heart attack and I believe
in my belief system God spoke to me. And then I thought to myself if I can hear that everyone can
and my goal even in teaching because I, you know, I guess it's retired now but I or as retired as
one can be right. But I want I want people to understand that the best way to develop your
intuition and really go with it is write things down. If you have a gut feeling it, you know,
some people don't like that the terminology. So whatever the terminology is is to just get
to start with believing in it. And I do believe that we're all born with it. I have watched many
people that I have instructed just just the simple things. When you write things down, you can see
a pattern on how on how you receive information. We all receive it differently and every way is
right for us. And I just want to encourage people to just take it a little lightly and just practice.
I just I call it the just try your psyche to get journal and just write things down. And I do that.
I still journal every day. I write as you know, I write things down messages that come to me
no make no sense to me. So that's what I think I just believe that I'm hoping that I've had several
readers reach out to me and say that I made it simple for them to understand how to tap in and
to understand their own intuition. So that is another goal of mine is I want people to understand
that they can do it if they want to. What is intuition? The intuition is based on here
your gut instinct. It's a sense of knowing. Do you want me to give an example of my own?
Yeah, or I was just going to say so I the way I describe intuition or at least the best way I
can start to describe it is it's our instinct. I think that we tend to as humans downplay it and
think it's something supernatural. And in some ways it can be quote unquote supernatural, but in reality
and in the heart of it, our intuition is instinct. And as you mentioned, it can show up in
multitude of ways for different people depending on how their intuition manifests. So that's what
I was kind of asking is like the big question of what is intuition. It can kind of be and show up
in a variety of different ways. So yes, for you, how does your intuition show up and then maybe
share some examples of how intuition might show up for other people?
It's also I always like to say it's a sense of knowing. It's like you know something but you
don't have any necessarily proof per se. You just believe. And one of the examples is that was just
really funny is that one day my husband came home from work and above his head in my mind's eye,
I saw like a comic quotation and it said the word band B-A-N-D in the number three. I thought well,
that's weird. I didn't say anything. So this next day he came home, same thing. I have to say this
is pretty weird. The third day he came home and that's one of my signals. If I hear something three
times, I better pay attention to it. Right, same. Exactly. It's like, okay, I don't want to get
that that some. So I said to him, today, this is the word band three mean anything to you.
And he just kind of said, well, yeah, he said that would be that's the next level up in my
in my job. And I said, oh, well, then you're going to be promoted. He goes, no, I'm not. And I just
knew in every part of my being, I said, yes, you are. Please go back with this. No, we're not. So then
he gets exasperated and he said, that would be my boss's job. I have no interest in that. No,
I'm not going to be a band three. I said, okay, okay, fine. And I just kind of get old for myself.
Fast forward 13 months later, he was in a different department and he came home with this kind of
smurky smile on his face and said, guess what? I just got promoted to a band three. I said,
hmm, imagine that I told you. So it's that just that sense of knowing that's one example.
I just recently, I did a tell what I thought was the typo in a text message to somebody.
We're going to be moving into a senior cooperative. And I told her we're going to be moving in in
the fall of 2022, which at that time, that was the date. And when I went back to, and I happened to
just see it again, I had typed 2023 and I was mortified. I was just mortified. So fast forward to last
Wednesday. And guess what? Construction has been slower than thought and we're going to be moving
in in fall of 2023. So sometimes you have a psychic kit. You don't know it. So again, I would just,
other people, I would just pay attention to when you just kind of know something. I think you've
probably experienced this too. What usually happens if I don't embrace it and don't do something about
it, I end up regretting it. No, exactly. And I love how you explain. It is more of a gut sensor
knowing because then people would say, well, all right, even when you gave the example of seeing
the band three in your mind's eye, that in my perspective would be seen within your mind's eye,
your third eye. And that is more of a visual type. Our intuition, the way that my spirit team has
kind of explained it a little bit, the visual they gave me as a ball of yarn that our intuition is
all kind of rabbled together. And sometimes as we're pulling the string, it could be that
gut sense of knowing it could be emotional feeling. It could actually be a hearing or a scene or
all of the clairs as you would someone may explain. But once one piece of that puzzle fits, then another
piece of that puzzle or that intuition clicks into place and then it builds that picture so that you
have a better sense and understanding of what they're trying to either it's yourself or God or your
spirit team is trying to communicate to you. Yes, exactly. Very well. Yes. Yeah. It's hard because
sometimes it's hard for me, especially I think for you, well, you've been teaching for a while. I know
you're retired, but you, as you said, are never really fully retired. And explaining to people
those analogies or using metaphors as well to how it kind of works together with intuition.
So you also mentioned mind to mind communication, explain a little bit of that or what I would say
is probably telepathy. How does that work and show up and how is that maybe different or the same
with our intuition? Because I do think sometimes I get some intuitive hits, especially when I'm in
sessions with people and it is reading their mind probably versus a message.
Yeah. Well, my experiences were really obvious. I got called on them. Okay. So I, one example was
my mother-in-law who was not not able to communicate. She was not talking. And I thought,
if she was in a nursing home and I thought, you know, people are nuts. She talks to me all the time.
Oh, like that kind of like really mind reading, having conversations.
So my daughter was sitting in the room and I was just having, it was a tough conversation. My mother
and mom needed to stay in the nursing home and she was begging me to bring her home. And I was
explaining, you know, she would say, but I really want to come with you. I'll behave and I'm like,
no, it's not that mom. I called him mom too. It's not that it's that we don't, you know,
I'm just literally explaining to her that we can't physically take care of her. She needs to be
medically taken care. And my daughter just got up and ran out of the room and I'm like,
I'll be right back. And she, my mother-in-law kind of just did this little,
eye-quinkle thing and I thought, hmm, and I went in and my daughter was just crumpled on the floor
and I go, what is the wrong, what is wrong? And she said, you know, we know that Nana's not doing
well. She goes, mom, she was, you were talking that loud. She never said a word. Are you crazy?
So, so that was a little shocking to me because I truly, I thought I was hearing her with my
youth. Another very interesting, another, a friend of mine's mother was really close to passing
and she was not communicative. And so I just went in and did a little prayer and lit my candle and
started sending her some Reiki and love and I just said, you know, if you can hear me, it's okay.
It's okay to pass. I'm here for your girls, etc., etc., even though I live far away from them right
now. And she said, thank you so much. She said, I will contact you once I get settled. That was
her terminology and she passed within a half an hour after that. So, I'm not sure whether that
was mine to mine or that's just another example of, you know. The reason I ask is because I think that
for, again, from my understanding and perspective is that our angels or guides now take away our own
intuition for a second. Our angels and guides tend to communicate with us through telepathy,
which is probably why we receive visuals in our mind's eye or thoughts that pop in our head.
Again, it could be our own intuition, but oftentimes, or loved ones from the other side as well,
which is you being a medium in particular can probably explain that a little bit. And so,
or even when we're communicating with a human person who is still here in living, there's also
that mind to mind where a message or a thought or something else is energy to is being sent and
shared. But we think about it as that mind to mind their telepathy. So, that's why I was asking
the question when you mentioned it. So, thanks for sharing the examples just to give people a
little bit more of a sense and detail about how that might show up for them. Okay, so now,
you also talked about learning how to protect yourself throughout your whole life and throughout
all of this and walk us about walk us through a little bit of that and how you explain it in the
book and why it's important for people to do that. I guess probably the question isn't why it's
important. We all probably know why it's important to protect ourselves, but how can people be more
cognizant and aware and do things on a more routine basis to energetically set boundaries and provide
that protection? Okay, well, first of all, I always, before I get out of bed, I invoke
Archangel Michael's the blue light of protection along with whatever prayer or whatever I want to
start for the day. I have a funny story about that where years ago, I was on the subway going
to work and I just, there was going to be a meeting I didn't want to have to deal with because it
wasn't involving me. So anyway, as I walked and it was a mile walk from Bart's station to the office,
I just kept putting blue light around and around and around. When I walked into the building,
when I walked into the front door, the office manager greeted me and what I heard was,
well, I couldn't hear a word she was saying so I hear a noise. Everything was blocked. I mean,
I asked him to block me and boy did he. So I said, I'll be right back and I went into the bathroom and
kind of undid it somewhat. So anyway, you could overdo things as well. But I also, the main thing
regarding not like our chocolate centers is when I, what I have realized once I
learned more and more about the different energy centers is that we walk around our energy is
way outside of our body. And so, so I sit down and I just visually pull my energy back into
myself and then, and then do the protection. I usually can tell if I've not done that well,
if I'm walking somewhere and I feel like somebody who walk in there's like right behind me and they
turn around like a half a block away. I'm like, oh, I'm too, I'm too spread out. And then the other
thing I do is visualize like I'm, I'm a magnet. So everybody that I walk by or I'm interacting with,
I'm picking up a little of their energy as well. So then I just do a releasing and just visualize
releasing and do that. And I do that every night because I just sometimes you don't know how much
you really picked up or whatever. So that's, that's the basics that I do. It's not anything
real. That's the thing is, is we can make it simple. It doesn't have to be hard or, you know,
long. Yeah, absolutely. Well, some people hear protection and then automatically jump into fear
mode because they think the protection is to protect us from the nasty stuff, which there are
nasty things out there. They're mean people just like there's light, there's dark, there's all of
that. But really what we're talking about and you've heard me say this before is spiritual hygiene.
We wouldn't go more than a day without brushing our teeth, hopefully, or putting on deodorant or
some other things. And this is spiritual hygiene. It's making sure that just like you said, it's
like we're sponges energetically or magnets and things attract to us. And we say things that could
be somebody who's sad and just a little of that leaked on us or whatever it is. And over time,
if we're not keeping our energy field, our work field, our chakras and everything else in balance
or cleared, then we can start to feel low energy, tired, and other things can manifest into different
ways. So it's really just about keeping those centers and your energy clear. And really, if you
think about it almost as if your phone's being plugged in and it's supercharged, you want your
energy to be charged up and not low. And so that's why I was asking about the protection is it's less
about the scary stuff and more about keeping up with your energy and making sure it's cleared.
Mr. P wants to say something. I can hear him. What's he trying to go on about?
I'm not sure. Okay, well, we'll come back to him in a second, but all of a sudden he just popped up
in my mind's eye. So it's almost like he wants to say something about it. And I said, okay, over to
you, but I'm not hearing exactly it's that I'm getting the road noise like they won't want.
Yeah, it's okay. We'll get back to him in a second, but I have a feeling it's going to be around
protection and contacting and communicating with souls from the other side. But we'll get to that
in a second. So Chris, I now would like to pivot to the value of messages in the book, whether it
was suicide or bullies, but also the fact that again, as a medium, you communicate a lot with
loved ones and people who have passed over or souls, I should say that crossed over to the other
side. And also you mentioned in the book that prayers help them. And so talk us talk us through
that and what that looks like. Why do prayers matter? And what are the messages that came through
for you for this book? Those are that's a two-parter. Okay, well, first of all, I did I did not even
think about the fact that when I deliver a message from a loved one to from somebody who's passed to
their loved one, I never thought about the fact that that was helping the person that had passed.
And so one day I just I was on my what I call my moving medication. So on my on my walk,
I just I just thanked one of the one of the young men who actually hit him in the suicide.
And I thanked him for coming and giving the message that God forgave him and you know,
just the uplifting messages and the apology message. But and so it was kind of quiet. And then
all of a sudden he said he always called me Miss Chris. I've never I never met him. So I don't even
know him. But anyway, that was cute. Here's what Miss Chris, I need to thank you because delivering
those messages and I hear and so does God hear all of my parents and my family's prayers. And that
helps me progress. So you can tell it's emotional for me because it's like I didn't and never thought
about that part of it. And then the other the other thing is the last chapter that I wrote about
an interaction, as I sit and think about it, it's like amazing the energy that this grandma and spirit
had to go through and all of her efforts for me to in a public situation, get through all of my
protections, get through all of my guys, get through everything to get through and get a message to me
that took several days, but I finally got to the person that the message was for. And that's
I said, okay, that's that's what I that's the final piece that I had to have to complete this book.
And the more I think about it, I mean, you know, I was on a cruise ship with and I was in the
theater where this happened. There were hundreds of people there. Imagine if even there was only one
spirit trying to get through for every person that was in the room. I mean, it was it was quite
phenomenal. And I'm very humbling and honoring to be able to be just a part of that. Yes, I
I've said before that I'm not a medium. I know I can speak to spirits who have crossed over, but I
don't advertise myself as a medium because of just that fact that you mentioned, there's so much
information, energy, messages that can come through. So I sort of say that more or less to put a wall
up to ensure that people aren't tapping in and trying to communicate to me or with me. So to your
point when someone can get through, I always am amazed because Michael has clearly let them through.
I eat my bouncer as I call him has let them through for a purpose and for a reason. So it's funny that
you mentioned that as well. But so so you mentioned the prayers that it helps them with the process.
What does that mean? Have you gained any clarity of when we go on the other side? What is that
process for us all? Well, just by what I kind of pieced together from the different messages and
and writing this book is a good thing like that I did what my husband suggested and I wrote those
notes down because a lot of the early messages I didn't remember or recall. And that's another
thing that if you know if you get a message in it goes, you're just a messenger so it goes in and
out of your brain. Unless it unless it has a huge emotional impact on me that I don't remember
a lot of it or even any of it sometimes. So just the fact that that that they've said to me we're
progressing, we're learning. I've had direct contact with three different people that committed suicide
for three different reasons. What I find very interesting is is alternative them hung themselves
and all three of them were surprised at work. And so they had to work through and one of the things
that the 14 year olds said is that he thought he was eliminating the stress for his family because
the bullying had his father he was gone, right? And he said he didn't realize in what he's learning
though that's kind of why it is the horrible impact that that had on his family and he just didn't
didn't understand that what he's learning is he was not in his right frame of mind at the time.
So it sounds like I guess like you hear people say a life review of sorts. I'm not sure exactly how
to really put it together other than it just feels like they're reviewing and learning what
happened and transpired and how it could have been different and how we all affect each other.
The ripple effect. Exactly. That's how that book got came apart. Yeah. So that's really I mean I don't
have any really extended experience with that. It's just that they've all all of them have used
the word learn. Now whether that's just for my frame of reference how I receive it, I don't know.
They are experiences on earth that we have in this lifetime we would learn from those experiences
otherwise what's the purpose of having them. You know, and also when we go over on the other side
I would hope that we would be able to kind of take a look back and see not just the impact but
if we had made different choices what that impact or that life would potentially look like in a
different way. I'm sure that that's extremely insightful. I did receive a question from a listener
and I thought that it would be perfect to ask you this and that is how do I know if my deceased
loved one made it safely to the other side. We don't like the answer but everyone makes it safely.
It's to what situation they're in. So if they're that we do have different stages of enlightenment
when I have learned from the other side and therefore like the like the three that committed
suicide they they got there safely. It's just that they now have work to do I guess or to learn
what what they did and their the effects both good and bad I mean as far as our passing
and then they also I've never had anyone ever say they were disappointed with how somebody
the choices that's like a caregiver whether had to make and that Mr. Peterson here he is.
He wants me to say that people who are having to make decisions end of life decisions for
someone else to trust that person entrusted them in the first place and that and that they didn't
do anything wrong and if there are other people that passed before their loved one could get to
them to say say goodbye and again nobody has ever has ever said to some of them has said that's because
I couldn't pass with them watching me. A lot of people have that guilt or want to make sure that
they made the quote unquote right decisions for someone who they loved who passed over and
think it helps resolve that for people when you just said if they entrusted them also life is going
to happen or the end of life is going to happen exactly how it needs to and exactly how it's supposed
to go whether that person was there and you were with them when they passed or whether you weren't
and they pass there's a whole process that goes into it that it all happens in divine timing and
I firmly believe that. Absolutely and the other thing is I know a lot of people always worry
about somebody dying alone and they're not ever alone like when my mother was just starting her
process her daughter-in-law was sitting on one side of the bed and I was on the other and she
she looked up and she just kept being me and I'm like who are you looking at mom and she just
turned to me and smiled and raised her shoulders and I said oh you're not going to tell me are you?
She just shook her head no and I said okay fine so fast forward after she passed and I was with
a friend of mine who is a well-known psychic international psychic medium and stuff so I said
to her does my mother have any messages for me and you know I mean here I am I do this all
with the you know for other people and she goes yes complete gratitude yeah I was wanting just big
a long explanation and everything and and then I said okay so I did everything right I made all
the right choices I did everything right and then I kind of sat back and I said so do you get
who she was you know who she was looking at and my friend laughed and said okay here's her answer
I wouldn't tell you then why would I tell you now and so number one that made me laugh number two
that is just my mother's personality and number three it's like okay we're not supposed to know
absolutely everything and tell it's our only experience so that kind of calmed me down a little
bit there too I was getting that she thought that whoever she was looking at was really cute
I don't know why I was getting this like kind of little girl like school girl feeling where she
was like blushing like oh good looking is what I was getting but take it or leave it I don't know
that's mr. P's laughing well I had a suspicion that it was my dad but that's also kind of a
romantic idea you know you had your dad isn't you know creating your mom type of thing but
that kind of that kind of fits for that okay so I have one more question from someone it actually
just came through why we were doing this interview so I feel like it's divine timing so you've heard
me say Chris that when I was coming here to earth before I came there was at the time when I was
looking down at earth and I wanted to go I heard this voice say it's not time yet and by the time
I went to turn around then they said it is time and it was almost as if time didn't exist okay
so this person says this got me wondering when our loved ones come to visit from the other side
are they in a similar space where time moves quickly are they not think they even track time
yeah there are almost omnipotent in the sense of time time doesn't exist on the other side so they
can from what I understand go into the future go into the past come to the present it also just
doesn't exist because that's time doesn't exist is what I've been told but I wanted to hear your
your perspective on that yeah absolutely plus they can be in several places at once like I can
be talking to my friend who has done past he's in the book and he just has a spunky heart
allergy kind of fun energy and he will be with me here in Washington and with her in Arizona at
the same time yeah and that made her feel a little bit better because she thought she was
feeling him around but she said well I said can't you see I'm gonna be sure as well I thought I
could but he's with you I said he's what both of us and of course I won't say exactly how he said
it but he was he made it very clear that that was dumb for us to think that he could be in two
places that one got it I totally believe that so thank you for answering and then the question
kind of goes on a little bit and she said when my dad passed away when I was a kid and through
readings I've been told that he's in a university and I'm using air quotes here or she did but we'll
come back from time to time my mom however passed away just last year and she comes back to me
often do you think that there are different levels or spaces that we enter once we pass away I do
I absolutely do and again I what I believe in just by you know what I've experienced and heard and
stuff because I jot a lot of messages down that that are just random things and not for somebody I
mean other than myself or whatever and that is is that we you know only a party but a part of our
soul comes into the body form so that we're always connected in you know in different ways
and and I see that I don't know why but I've always see that as multicolor one ribbon but
multicolor and I I remember oh this I just had a memory I was about 11 years old I think maybe 12
12 me and I was on a vacation with us with my childhood friend on their boat and for whatever
reason I I got up to the near I looked right in my own eyes in the near instead who are you and
and then I don't remember a response right away I mean at that young of an age you know now I'd
already had the experiences with my dad but having premonitions that something was wrong in helping
him but I went on and rode we each had our little little rowboat and oh I used to love I loved
what I mean I was rolling and rolling and all of a sudden it was as if I received the answer
and it and I just heard you're a divine being of light oh wow and I I didn't remember that until
right now just right now wow they gave you the answer and the memory again that's amazing
I know thank you well thank you I mean it wasn't me our collective energy and our spirit team and
guides just holding the space for us yeah I got chills that feels awesome yeah I'm gonna write
that down Nicole well you don't have to because it's forever immortalized in this podcast episode
you can listen back you know I'm just gonna you can write it down too we are divine beings of light
you heard it here folks all right I do want to give mr. P an opportunity to either come back in and
give the answer to or whatever the answer was that he wanted to talk about with protection or
anything else so giving him that opportunity but also for you Chris I want to pivot in a moment to
talk about something else that's related to you and I and a group of people but also if there's
anything else related to the book you want it to mention what me is unusually quiet I know I can
feel him I can I can sense him and feel him and almost is if he wants to jump in but it's okay
it's all right he doesn't need to be shy so basically the book was written for in divine timing and
I am the most reluctant author that was never a goal of mine and I am very I have to say I'm very
proud of this book because I'm pleased that so many people have already said how much value that
they've received from it including my advanced readers but it's just kind of encouraging to me
that that hopefully I can teach through this book and reach people that I always feel that it'll
go to the people that that needed the most and that's kind of my intention yes well let's all make
Chris an international best-selling author by going and picking up her book which we'll get to where
you can get it from I'm sure it's on Amazon and other places but before we kind of close out Chris
I'd love for you to share a little bit about the intention box that you do for yourself and me and
others and also maybe share a little bit about if people want to make their own intention box or
something how how can they go about it okay well the intention box started when when and I did it
differently than when I was in Arizona and and had my learning center and so we would meet once
a month for development circle so we would all write an intention read it out we all would
bless it and then put it in the spot and then the next monthly we'd take it out so I when I when
we moved I just I kept the boxes that I had and then and then I explained it much better in the book
but then just one day I'm like one day I'm like my spirit team said the council wants to speak to
you I'm like that sounds like you're getting called to the principal's office the council
wants to speak to you so I said okay okay I brushed to my safer corner I lit my candle I sat down
I did a prayer and then I started and what I do is where the council is is I have this guided
journey medication they gave me in there and they said it's time to offer an intention box to a group
of of women that really need your help and and you know most of them so went through a ceremony and
then I go back out so I start writing this and I'm just kind of like oh my goodness you know people
are gonna think I'm nuts and then I say okay whatever so I reach I reach out and everybody's
like yes let's try it so what I do is every Friday people that are in the box send me an intention
and then I personally it's all by text usually I personally then hand write them do a ceremony
and then close the box and by and by the way I totally misunderstood the assignment when you first
asked me I thought it was an intention I definitely misunderstood the assignment I thought it was an
intention that was one of those longer term goals and intentions not a weekly thing so when you
kept texting me I was like it's the same intention it's the same intention now I totally understand but
yes yes oh well so my dad because so it's both so so here's what so it's just kind of transpired
also a little i.e. from the last from the last podcast I had somebody call me and and we did a
reading and then I got called back to the council Michael who might finish and they said this is the
invite this person now this is somebody I didn't know at all and and invite her to see and she was
thrilled and she joined it so she's been a part of this too so it it progressed so it's a weekly
intention a year intention and a prayer section and I added the prayer section because people started
setting an intention for somebody else and we can't do that you know like me so I said okay back to
the council what how do you want me to do this so it it is to me a very sacred thing it can be as
as simple as you want or as elaborate as you want I mean then you can do it you know just do it
yourself just feel what what feels good to you write down what I will say is be very specific
like I saw I want something to happen but by May the 30th say May the 30th 2023 I have found it and
there is a section in the book about it that it has helped many of our group stay focused and
cut out all the chatter and focus on what they want either one week at a time or whatever and
and often even you're not the only one often they'll keep the same one because if you have
something that you're really wanting to work on it's important a week right to do well I think
what's great about all of that is if people want to kind of create their own intentions what I was
hearing when you were talking was you could almost set up a group chat of sorts where you send
text to the full group to say what I'm in gratitude for what your intention is for that week or your
intentions and maybe there's not an actual physical box per se that you create but I love also the
fact that you have a physical box and then you take it and you write it out because there's
something about speaking it out loud and stating it from an energetic perspective and also writing
it down and having it in the physical form all of that helps it from from at least again my
opinion and perspective make it more powerful in that manifestation because that's the energy
behind it but you know for people that are interested if you want to create your own intention box or
your own sort of gratitude and intention chain I think that it provides ripple effects with
multiple people because then you have everyone else holding that space and holding that intention
for you in a very powerful way not just the universe and source and god but also physical
human and spiritual beings as you mentioned we're all beings of divine light so you have other
beings that are holding that for you right oh and also the other thing that I do this is just
just me but as people remove their intention I then fold up the paper put it up to my heart
energy and say we release this with gratitude so I it's all about ceremony for me personally
and there are sometimes that after I complete the whole thing that I just have to sit still
it's like I'm vibrating out of my body so to speak and I just feel this this sense of connection
and one that so for me being the host I mean everybody is always thanking me for you know it
takes time and energy and all the other stuff it does but what I again what I receive is so huge
that I if I look forward to Friday's always been the kind of my favorite day of the week ever since
I was little anyway but I look forward to Fridays to see what what has developed and what's and what's
up next you know with everybody mm-hmm yes no and I'm honored thank you for having me be a part of it
and for anyone else we'll include some of those steps in the show notes for you but yes you can
create your own intention box or your own intention text chain gratitude box gratitude text chain
whatever that looks like for you think that that is a really great way for people to also build
that sense of community with their friends and or family or others and like you said you had
somebody that had a session with you I know you're retired so you don't really do them as much but
the fact that you also received that intuitive hit of include her she was part is part of your
community now part of your circle that inner circle that we have with with us exactly and that's
that's one of the many beauties of this podcast is that you as the host bring and I know all of
your guides and angels and things but I mean brings such a valuable service to others to create
so that we know we're not alone so that we know you know if you've worked something out I mean you
know I will work something out my husband will say you talk to me or a dead person and you know I
mean it's just that's very common anymore but I had to have I've had to get to that point and so
to know that there are other that there are other people and by the way I cannot wait for your book
to get out I can hardly wait oh thanks yes I still have a few more tweaks or we have a few more tweaks
got myself and our angel teams and all of that but yes me too just I never realized I knew that
books were a lot of work but not to this extent especially when you're writing about the spiritual
and the energy that comes through it and the healing and the releasing not just for myself but
for others you know if my angel team had told me that I probably would not have said yes just
got honestly I would not I would not have done it not because it's not helpful and I don't love it
it's just yeah it's a lot going on but anyway but thank you yes I'm excited for you and everyone
else to read it too okay my dear anything else you wanted to cover that we have not had a chance
to get to no I don't think so that mr. Peterson is clapping all right well I gave him several
opportunities to chime in so speak now forever hold your piece mr. P all right well yeah well proud
of us yeah well proud of you he's very happy that you listen to both yourself your husband and
then him too to make sure that you got this out there and what a gift that you wrote for everyone
and putting it in such a way that's clear and succinct so thank you very much for that and
also just hearing the individual stories and bringing it to life is so fun you know some of the
the messages are a little bit hard to hear but in a good way because people get answers but it
just resonates on a level for individuals that I just wanted to say thank you as well all right
well how can people get the book Chris and also reach out to you okay so I have an Amazon author
page it's on Amazon if they have any questions or anything they could reach me and my email is
cleftin and the number one at gmail.com all right well thank you so much and I know we talk you know
for the most part weekly whether it's text or phone and everything else so this is not goodbye for us
but for everyone else we just say thank you again Chris and goodbye for now I'm sure you will be back
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