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Hi, everyone. Welcome to another episode of a psychic story for this episode.
I have Mary Beth Shrutter.
She is the founder of day one life coaching, which is a transformational alternative and holistic health service specializing in addiction recovery, spiritual coaching, mindset coaching and the law of attraction coaching.
Mary Beth has successfully guided many clients to reach their full potential using her innovative and transformational techniques.
And I wanted to give a special shout out to Mary Beth because she's based in Cincinnati, Ohio.
So I am very excited that I have somebody in person not where recording the stole virtually that we can hang out, but welcome Mary Beth.
Thank you, Nicole. Thank you so much. I'm so excited to do this episode with you. Thanks for inviting me.
Of course, and we are going to be talking about spiritual recovery a little bit later in the episode, but you know the drill.
The biggest thing that I like to focus on is each individual person's experience and story.
So I'm going to hand it over to you wherever you would like to start because you have a very fascinating life and experience, which got you to here.
We were even talking yesterday. There's just several things. So please, just with the listeners, tell us a little bit about yourself.
So many things while we're to start. Well, I guess we could start where, you know, just my entire life, I've had just paranormal psychic activity.
And it's the same old story where you just kind of think it's normal because as a child, as a kid, you just think everybody experiences life the way you do.
You don't really realize how different you are until later when you start verbalizing it.
And you get these strange looks like what are you talking about?
But I've always been a person who's just been really kind of notice naturally about the law of attraction.
I didn't know what to call it until I saw that movie, the secret in 2006.
And I was like, yes, this is what I've been trying to tell people.
You know what I mean? And although I don't feel like it's a very, I love that movie. I love how it's an introduction. It's, it's very basic.
And I think there's so much more to it than that movie presents. It kind of makes it look like, oh, I can sit on a meditation cushion and, you know, just think positive thoughts and everything.
I'm just going to be a magnet for all good things. And it's way more complicated than that.
And I spent since 2006 so many years just really digging into it.
And I just, it was definitely a calling of mine to become a teacher of the law of attraction because of how much it changed my life.
I actually use the law of attraction to quit addictions several of them.
I've got that addictive personality in me. So alcohol was the number one. And my clients, most of them, what the perfect client, let's talk about like my perfect client, like my ideal client who's going to actually probably resonate.
I'm going to resonate with them. In other words, would be someone who like, so I had, I was running two businesses while I was still drinking.
And I started my coaching business while I was still drinking. I actually didn't think that I had a big problem because let's think about society and the way society is where it's just, it's glorified to be honest, right.
So everywhere you go, guess, guess what? Now I'm the oddball. I'm going on four years sober, actually September eight.
And I don't count the days. And we'll talk about that later. It just happens to be my, my friend's birthday.
So I just remember the last time I drank, you know, it's just is something that really helped me get out of addiction.
And it can be applied to every issue, every issue, the law of attraction, once you're aware of it, because we are always, always manifesting.
It's just, are we doing it by default? Are we doing it deliberately?
So there's so much misinformation out there. And so like I said, since 2006 and just kind of brainwashing myself a lot with Abraham Hicks.
I'm sure that and then, and then all the sources and seeing all the different things that people, the misconceptions as well.
I just had, I just was like, oh my gosh, this is so wonderful that I get to share this with others and was like, finally got it.
Because it's, it's a lot more complicated than you think because we manifest both directions. We manifest all the good things, but we also manifest the negative.
It's all to do with our thoughts, our beliefs, but mostly the way we feel.
The way we feel is above and beyond everything. So positive affirmations are great.
But if you don't believe what you're saying, you know, you got to actually feel, you got to feel, you know, that's what a lot of my coaching is about is helping people understand how to use the law of attraction to improve their life in every, that's why you read that long list of things that I do is because it works for career abundance.
Addiction, I mean, food addiction, like I get a lot of food addiction people like people don't even think of that as an addiction like you're trying to lose weight.
What's the definition of an addiction? There's something that is negative and you know what's having a negative effect in your life yet you're not able to stop.
So that's that applies to so many things out above and beyond alcohol and drugs and I think most people only kind of think alcohol and drugs.
And you know, we've got over thinking is an addiction people just over think that has a negative effect on your life over working negative thinking negative thinking is subconscious programming right.
So that's another thing I work with coaching is one on one is so helpful for people because a lot of well are subconscious by definition we're not aware of it right.
So, you know, we kind of are able to figure out those programs and patterns that are causing the addiction that are causing anything that someone's feeling stuck in life.
Maybe it could be their career just they just feel stuck and a lot of it sometimes it's just figuring out oh, they don't feel they're worthy.
Something like that, you know, like it's different for everybody.
So, I think that's what the next session is going to be the same but the reason I'm obsessed with the law of attraction is because it really does it applies to everything because it is all about manifesting your reality we create our own reality what we focus on gets bigger.
So, it's amazing to me that most people aren't aware of how much effect that their thoughts and their beliefs and their feelings have on their day and that they do they do create their own reality.
They manifest within our personal belief system. So, let's let's change our belief system.
I'd love to go back and I do want to talk about the law of attraction and then addiction a little bit more.
But when you mentioned when you were younger, maybe you didn't say younger, but you've seen your whole life you're having these experiences.
Talk a little bit about what it was that you were experiencing and then you you said also believe there was you realize that other people weren't necessarily having those kind of same experiences.
Because that was part of the reason why you went towards either over working or drinking and not because it was a everyday thing.
I think you had just defined or described yourself as you're functioning.
You just weren't necessarily realizing how that was impacting you and that changed and everything.
But want to talk about your experiences first because I think that'll help give people examples of maybe they're not picking up that they're doing or experiencing the same types of things.
So when I was younger, it's still this way, but I am able to help help a little bit like keep myself grounded more.
But I didn't know what an empath was. So I'm able to absorb other people.
I feel other people's energy, feel other people's feelings.
And when you're a child, you don't know the difference between your feelings and somebody else's feelings, right?
So what I noticed and I think this is going to be very helpful for your audience because I feel like a lot of people in a lot of your audience is going to already be empaths and maybe not be aware of it and not understand like why they have anxiety.
Well, for what I learned later in life, much later in life was that being an empath, you know, I'd be in a crowd and I would start to get anxious and I'd have to get away.
Well, that's because of your absorbing other people's energy and I didn't realize that I just thought it was my own thoughts and my own feelings.
So I've learned, you know, I'm pushing 50 now. I've learned to kind of block that out.
I know different ways that I do little different techniques to protect myself from other people's energy.
And, you know, in order to be a coach, I have to do that, right? Like I can't absorb my client's energy.
I have to be able to protect myself and I also do little cleansing things between each client too.
It's funny. I heard you talk about spiritual hygiene the other day on one of your podcasts and I was like, that is so funny because I call it spiritual.
I said, I don't want to spread any spiritual STD.
You know, that's funny.
That's funny.
So, but also you mentioned at one point you lived in a haunted house and you were experiencing that.
And so you would naturally gravitate to other things to kind of block it out.
Oh, that's why I really started drinking a lot when I lived in that haunted house because I was scared.
I mean, it was a freaky, freaky situation, but I want to talk about before that.
So that was only, so my son's 20 years old and that was when he was 15.
So to back up when I was 18 years old would be, I think when I, and I know that's like pre-drinking age, but yes, this is what happened.
So I was always, like I said earlier, always just drawn to spiritual stuff, drawn to personal development.
And anyone who's listening, if those things that you were drawn to, those things that you just feel you have a passion for, that's your gift.
That's, that's, that's the universe telling you, hey, you know, this is your calling.
This is what might be in your soul contract or whatever you're meant to do.
So those things that excite you really, really follow those.
And so I was always drawn to spiritual stuff and always drawn to counseling type.
Like I always had people, way older than me asking me for advice, like my whole life.
So that was just kind of an energetic, natural thing that happened.
So that's another thing.
But at age 18, so I'm reading a book on near death experiences.
And just, just like I read a lot of spiritual books, but this was my first book that I read about near death experiences.
And what happened was it triggered this, what I, what I called a quantum experience for lack of a better work as I heard Dr. Wayne dire call his experience that and it sounded his sounded a little bit like mine.
Because, because I was 18, by the way, I didn't know what was happening.
There was no internet back then back in the day, back in the olden days, Nicole.
So remember that well actually there was no internet.
I didn't know what's happening.
But what it's really difficult.
I could spend hours talking about it.
But at the end of the day, it was almost like having, it was like I was remembering my spirit.
I was put into this like what I, with the knowledge I have today, I would say I was living in 5D for about two weeks for about two weeks.
It was just this unconditional love and bliss.
A lot of the things that near death experiences would say, but I didn't have the death part.
I was still, you know, it just was an energetic shift into 5D.
And I didn't know what I couldn't have said that back then, but I went to the library learned that's how I had to find out because that's what we did back then is go to the library and research.
I looked up, you know, there were things, some people called it enlightenment or on us, virtual awakenings and all that.
And I was just in this blissful, like I was able to see how everything was connected.
We're electromagnetic beings.
I was downloaded all of this information.
Now before we get to excited, I didn't get to keep all that I'm sure it's in my subconscious, but a lot of it's like not like I was like quantum physics.
Right.
Today makes my brain blow up.
I love it. I'm so obsessed with it.
But, you know, that I was actually getting downloads back then where I was understanding it.
I was understanding this and the oneness and how everything's connected.
But here we are in this 3D reality, duality of earth, we experience contrast and we're meant to experience contrast.
That's how we grow. That's how we learn and evolve. Right.
So long story short, I was in this ecstatic state.
I guess Abraham Hicks would call it being in the vortex for two weeks.
And I don't think my, what I've heard that it's called just recently, only two weeks ago.
I heard it's called a spiritually transformative experience, STEs, not STTs.
I didn't have an STD, I had an STE.
And so that's what it's called.
And I don't even know how, as much as I listened to spiritual podcast, I don't know how I only heard about this two weeks ago.
So it's, people are getting in groups now and discussing it and being more open.
Now, all of us were trying to discuss it because we're, we, because I did discuss it and I was told I was crazy.
And because nobody, you're on this high frequency that nobody else can relate to.
And you don't make sense to people because it's kind of like dialing into a radio.
They're tuned into a completely different station. They can't hear you.
And that's just the same with everyday life to like, we're always tuned into a certain frequency.
And we're going to attract things that are on our frequency, right?
So that's some, how the law of attraction works.
Like we're going to, someone's going to be on our radar radar, who's also like tuned into our vibration.
So back then, and this is how the drinking got started.
I know that was your question.
So I was trying to tell everyone, I was, I wanted everyone to feel what I was feeling.
You know, I was in love with the world.
Like this one is the, what is your list out?
You're trying to explain so that somebody can relate and you can, and you can talk about it and have a conversation.
Yes.
And if it happened today, guess what?
We got the internet. I wouldn't have found a tribe. Same day.
I would have been like, boom, I could have Googled stuff.
And it wouldn't have been this, what turned into a negative spirit.
I don't know if you've heard the saying before enlightenment, carry wood, chop water, after enlightenment, carry wood, chop water.
Meaning a lot of times people think your life's going to be instantly transformed.
And that's not exactly how it goes.
This was more for me, like planning a seed.
You know what I mean? It was a big, it's a huge step that I didn't see it that way the time because I couldn't get anyone to understand me or relate to me.
So I was like, well, the only time I really feel connected to people now is if I'm drinking alcohol.
So I started to drink alcohol more because I wanted to get back to that feeling because being in that high frequency and then coming back down to this lower frequency of which is just daily life on 3D Earth, right.
It was just such a huge contrast that it got depressing.
Does that make sense?
Oh, it totally makes sense.
I did not integrate this well because I was 18.
I didn't know what happened. I didn't have anyone to talk to.
And I could pinpoint that being where I started to over drink, you know.
And by the way, you said I didn't drink that every day.
I did drink every day towards especially towards the end.
I was drinking every day, but it was in the acceptable way that society is like a glass of wine a dinner or whatever it is.
But I would be more like, and this is completely from from what I, the people I know and it's totally acceptable.
You go out and, you know, you have a couple glasses of wine, maybe come home, have another glass.
You know, it's just easy to have a bottle of wine.
I was red, I was a red wine. I wasn't like drinking everything, you know, inside.
I was a red wine lover and, you know, it's just what I, I didn't have a rock bottom though.
That's what I made by fully functional, like I was excelling in life.
I was very successful, but I knew too much about love attraction.
I knew too much about frequency. I knew, realized it was lowering my vibration.
And I could no longer tolerate that, like honestly, it started to make me more and more sick.
The more I raised my vibration, I was like, I, I drank less and less just naturally because,
and that's one of the things that I coach. I want to help people raise their vibration
because these addictions start to fall away on their own.
When you start to raise your vibration, you don't have the physical tolerance or the spiritual tolerance.
And it's, it's, so that's kind of how my coaching is geared towards helping bring awareness.
And a lot of times we, education, just understanding what alcohol does and the science part of it, you know, I wasn't able to sleep.
Well, I was able to sleep, but the scientists, the science part real quick,
just because I know this is going to resonate with people, they're going to be like, oh my gosh.
So I thought I had insomnia. I thought that I had, you know, anxiety, you know, but drinking alcohol is like pouring gasoline on anxiety, you know,
because I do have a tendency to have, you know, you're also, it's a lower vibrational substance.
So it's bringing you, it's lowering you down and you're, you are, especially if you're intuitive.
If you are psychic, everybody's psychic, we know that it's just who's, you know, are you tuned in?
Are you developing those skills that we all have?
Well, I was, you know, I definitely have my antennas up. So I'm able to feel these negative energies and frequencies way more, you know,
like you're opening yourself up to them when you drink. You just are.
And so in the middle of the night, when I would wake up at 3 a.m., it's because here's the science part where alcohol,
you're, what your body is going to create stimulants to counteract the alcohol, because alcohols that are present.
So this is what your body is supposed to do with science. That's what, that's what is always going to happen.
Well, you're going to create these stimulants and this is why moderation stops working eventually is because your body remembers like,
maybe you only have one glass a night, one, one glass one night. I'm going to have one last wine and you do.
But last time you drank, you had a bottle.
But so your body at the first glass creates the number of stimulants from the last time you drink.
So like you, yeah, so you have all these stimulants in your body about four to five hours after the alcohol wears off.
All you have is all these stimulants. So you wake up at two or three in the morning with your heart racing.
And this is not for it. It didn't happen to me until my 40s.
So I think there's like a hormonal thing, like, things shift, things shift. So ladies, if you're in your 40s, pay attention to that.
A hormonal change, like you, you really do lose a tolerance and it really does affect your sleep more because alcohol throws off your hormonal.
Your endocrine system in general, everything's thrown off.
And then you're thinking you have insomnia and anxiety when it's really your, you're drinking alcohol, you're causing the imbalances that cause the anxiety.
It also depletes your body of vitamins and minerals.
And when you're, you don't have, there's certain minerals and vitamins that when you don't have them, it causes depression also.
So a lot of these things that we are like, oh man, I'm just a victim of these, you know, mental health issues and some people are nothing to do.
But I just want to make sure people are aware that it could also be due to alcohol that you're drinking that's causing these imbalances that's causing anxiety and depression and sleeplessness.
And things like that, because I wasn't aware of it until after I was coaching and I was decided to add the niche of addiction recovery.
And I'm starting, and I always go above and beyond. I have so many niches, you know, as a spiritual, I just never stopped learning. I love it. I love learning.
And so I go above and beyond and read this book called Alcohol Explained by William Porter.
And that's where he was talking about learning. He was just trying to digging into research on why can't I sleep at night? Why can't I sleep like, why am I waking up in the middle of night?
And so that was when I was like, ding, ding, ding, ding, that's my thing. That was what was going on with me and it was such an eye opener.
And honestly, I, that's when I realized I had that problem is when I was getting my niche to, you know, to help people with addiction recovery thinking, I'm going to help people, I wasn't thinking I had it.
A lot of people who have addictions don't realize it. That's the thing. No, I can quit anytime. Well, then I tried to quit and guess what wasn't that easy?
Because it was such a huge habit over decades everywhere. I was that when you try to quit, that's when you know.
So I would encourage your listeners. If you think you're not addicted to something, go a week without it. And then let me know. Let me know how that gets.
That could be consuming content and watching TV or streaming services all the time. It could be, it could be working.
I was a huge sto Am a little bit spoiler over working, a huge workaholic, which also caused my insomnia and everything else. So there's in multiple ways.
And I do want to talk about the different types a little bit here in a moment.
But you said something that like I was like a light bulb went off in my mind, the sometimes people drink or do other types of addictions to open themselves up.
So drinking, for example, because I've had, I'm not an expert in this, but a couple of people come to me and they realize, oh, I feel like if I drink or there's cannabis, there's other types of things too that sometimes people use them recreationally and then others, it's more, you know, an often thing that they use regularly.
That said, I tuned into these situations intuitively. And I was noticing that it seemed like some not all were almost using these substances in order to connect and feel that I was called oneness, but get information or feel grounded.
Not necessarily numbing out, which I think a lot of time society tends to say we're doing, especially for sensitive or intuitive or we're picking up on those things.
So what's your perspective from that? And I know that there's a variety, there's great areas, but from your experience personally, but then also working with people.
So I used it more as an escape and to numb out and to not feel as much because I feel so much, you know, one of those highly sensitive people.
So that's why I used it.
I know plenty of, yeah, I was done things like that will help people. So that wouldn't be so because I had my spiritually transformative experience.
Naturally, I had it naturally. I personally would not, especially with my addictive personality. I wouldn't try any of that stuff like plant medicine. People love it. I have not, I have no opinion on that whatsoever. I think that's an individual thing.
I just know myself too much to where I'm not going to try to get into something like that and end up, you know, getting addicted to, because I've noticed, like when I listen to podcasts like that, a lot of spiritual podcasts, they do it regularly plant medicine, things like that, and to have the experience.
I mean, that's, that's great for them, but I am kind of wondering, like, why do you have to keep doing it over and over? You know, I don't know. I, my kind of, my goal is to get there naturally, like every single day, I set myself up to be in the highest frequency possible. I do what I, and this is what I would coach.
You know, anyone who has, because of me, they know that we have to set ourselves up every day to be on the highest frequency possible. So we, so we are prepared for the inevitable curveballs that life throws at us. This doesn't mean we don't have bad days. It means we are prepared our best way to be prepared for that contrast that inevitable contrast that's going to happen in everybody. Nobody escapes it.
You know, yeah, nobody escapes this contrast in life.
Yeah, I haven't tried the plant medicine or anything else like that. And I do think, like you said, it's individual. It depends on each person's journey. And, but ultimately, yes, the goal would be that you're getting to a certain state naturally, and that you could do it more frequently and every day, and not necessarily have to use anything.
Certain things are tools, whether it's meditation, plant medicine, that sort of thing, but I can definitely see that if you are more drawn or have addictive personalities or it's even just part of you genetically, and within your DNA to probably not go down that route or down that path.
I shouldn't start here that I, I haven't been able to get there where I was when I was 18 for those two weeks. I haven't been able to get there. I get glimpses and, you know, I really can have, but I can get in the vortex and every day. I'm in the vortex and then also a lot of days. I'm not. I'm like, you know, we, it's natural for us to go up and down the emotional scale. It's natural. And that's something I wanted to bring up is when you hear a law of attraction coach or somebody say good vibes.
Only that's someone you need to run away from because that is not it's it's not good vibes only positive vibes only sure it's great to have a high frequency and a high vibe, but we also need experience and process or feelings.
There is something called toxic positivity where you suppress your feelings and that's just denial. We need we are here. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Don't forget to be human. That's how we learn that's how we grow.
And when you stuff those feelings down, it's actually you're doing yourself a huge disservice because it causes all kinds of problems that that traumas things like that still live in our body.
So we need to process that we need to acknowledge feelings more as, you know, like what I've learned to do is kind of be the observer of my feelings. We are not our thoughts.
A lot of people think we are. That's the ego and we need to become the witness of our thoughts and something I say a lot is it really interesting. Isn't that interesting that I thought that because then I'm kind of outside of it witnessing it instead of becoming my thoughts.
And that's how you go into that downward spiral. And I do have reactions like social media. I think it's tough. There's a lot of I don't know if people realize this, but the platform of social media is you you put yourself out there for spiritual and psychic attacks.
It's time. So you need to be really grounded. And there's there's stuff that yeah, you know how it is. So there's things that I do to protect myself from that because there's just a lot of people who actually go out of their way to say negative things to someone like who's trying to help who's like, you know, I don't like the word like worker, but I'm trying to give a better word.
You know, someone who's trying to bring more light into this world, you know, and then they want to their it's like their goal to misunderstand you and tell you down things like that. So it's really it's really you've got to protect yourself before getting on those platforms, but definitely acknowledge feelings. It's so important to to not do the good vibes only thing.
So I will react to those people for a minute, you know, like I have things that I do to get out of it very quickly. I'm still human. I still feel feelings, but I don't stay there. I don't dwell on those lower frequencies because I know that we're always creating. We're always manifesting. So what we're feeling and thinking now is what we're experiencing the future. So I still process, but I'm I just gotten really good at it. It's just practice because it's really not harder to think in a positive optimistic way that is to think in a negative way.
We just have a soul much more practice with the negative, right? Like we've like most of our lives. Most people have had negative programming. I think it's it's Joe dispenser or maybe Bruce Lipton, but probably Bruce Lipton who says 95% of us are just running on subconscious programming and patterns and we're thinking the same thoughts from the day before and the day before and the day before.
And that is why we don't change, you know, so it's really important. And this is part of my coaching is bringing someone subconscious stuff into the conscious awareness.
So we can become aware of it so we can heal it. And then we can reprogram ourselves neuroplasticity is a real thing. Dr. Joe dispends us huge. He's somebody I recommend anybody follow.
He is amazing. So he's really put it out there like we've been kind of lied to a little bit that our brains don't change. Well, guess they certainly do.
And we have that power and that's something I want to do is empower people to know that they actually can change. They don't they're not stuck with their childhood wounds and you know unhealed and programs from of lack and all these things.
Because that's why all of my sessions are so different because you got to meet people where they are. Everybody's in a different place.
You got to kind of we don't I don't dwell in people's past. I don't dwell in those old vibrations were very long, but I do need to know a little bit about their background and their history for the reprogramming part of it.
Yeah. And you say something important. Well, several things there that were important, but also what I kept hearing in my mind was the consciousness, the duality between the consciousness and the subconsciousness.
And when we think about spiritual awakenings or when we start to become aware more of either not the why we're doing something just even being aware.
I call it I used to be it felt asleep like you're on autopilot. You're going through your life. Like you said about the thoughts.
You aren't necessarily knowing that those are ruminating or kind of going on in the background, IE or subconscious, but also consciously.
And until you start to focus on that and become more aware of it and then observe and not maybe necessarily react just yet.
But then understand OK, these were programs or things that you know make me or have me do these certain things.
Then you become empowered to not just understand that, but then what other actions, what kind of change do you want to enact and then moving forward from there?
Absolutely. You nailed it. And it's different for everybody to like that's why that's why you know I coming out with some workshops, but I'm just a big fan of one on one just because of that reason is is it's so much easier for someone else is you know the hardest thing for us to see is ourselves will put it that way.
So to have someone you know a lot of clients like they will just having us downing board they you know because I believe everyone has an inner guidance.
You should always listen to their inner guidance first like if if I say something that doesn't resonate don't listen to me listen to your inner guidance always before anyone.
And you know even psych psychics like I think that I totally am obsessed with psychics by the way I've probably seen no less than 300 different psychics in my life.
I have some favorites right now Nicole you're wonderful. We got to tell that story about how we met by the way.
Oh yeah. Yes. Absolutely.
Yeah, but you still use your we create our own reality. So make sure that when when I see a psychic is not dangerous for me because I know that psychics are only seeing your current vibration.
They're only able to read current and then possible outcomes but in the end of the day we have free will we create our own reality.
We use a psychic for guidance do not say oh no this is definitely what's going to happen no use it and shift things use them to shift things this is the road I'm going down why don't want that to happen so that's where I want to empower people that you have the power to change anything.
I've done that where I've heard some that someone say something and I've done the exact opposite just out of spite psychic.
You're a rebel.
Yes and I did exactly what she told me not to just because and yeah anyway it's it's insane when you think about sometimes how much power people give to others.
So just like you said it's really about it's almost like taking a pulse check of I'm feeling this or experiencing this what do you think and being able to have that discussion and guidance and then if it resonates with you.
Then decide based on what you just said free will and choice because to your point also about law of attraction and the free will and choice.
We also have the power to change things to some extent maybe not everything but there's a there's some limitation to our free will yeah for sure but for the most part sky's a limit to some extent.
Yeah I heard I just listened to a podcast the other day with Don McGill Ruiz junior and he said our ability to control is ends at our fingertips like basically we can control our own vibration but we don't have the we don't we can influence other people's vibration.
I think like we can by being in a high frequency or a self we are going to affect other people we are able to raise their vibration a little bit and we're able to lower their vibration if we come in a low frequency atom but but for the most part we all control our own vibration I can't control your vibration and vice versa.
So but we do have control over our own vibration that is something we do we do have and that's what I like to empower people with for sure.
And this message came in to me a few years ago which I've said several times on the podcast is that we all have our own unique resonance and spiritual vibration and if we focus on that ourselves and each individual person to be that light and to experience what we need to experience.
It does have a ripple effect but the ripple effect I never really described this visually is like a drop of you know putting your finger in the water and it kind of ripples out at some point it stops.
But if everybody else has that ripple effect and it all connects that's how we're connected and it all merges together and to your point about vibration we can control that frequency and how fast slow high low whatever you want to call it it raises the shifts within that.
But yes we can't control the outcome with someone else and what that looks like.
And something that I think your audience would would be really helpful is you know a lot of people like well law of attraction doesn't work for me because I've tried it it doesn't work for me.
But the thing is the thing that they're not understanding because they might know someone they might be comparing themselves to someone else who is having a lot of success at it.
Well we have something called a point of attraction so that and that's based on a few different things that's based on your childhood programming like we were talking about earlier all of those patterns all of your beliefs since birth really.
And then you add into that your momentum on a certain subject so I'm going to have a different point of attraction for relationships by the way relationships a huge addiction huge addiction like most of my clients are going to be relationship
relationship addiction huge and that goes back to childhood wounds and all of the things so I might have a horrible momentum with relationships but amazing point of attraction with money and abundance and career and success right.
So it's like you have a different point of attraction on different subjects and the third thing is how you feel right now so those three things go into each subject and that's why it gets so complicated and it's so individual and unique for each person.
So it's different point of attraction and then another thing that a lot of people don't know that's totally changed my life was and this is so important with law of attraction I just feel like I got to get a megaphone until the world a lot of times we think like we only attract to what we are but that's not true there's so many things anything we have an energetic spark with.
So for instance Greg Braden I give him credit for this he does something called the seven mirrors on YouTube it's amazing he's got a little mole in the video it's very old but he does this really good it's a expansion on law of attraction and what he talks about he goes through a lot of things but the number one thing that really connected the dots for me was judgment so I kept attracting this is a great example for relationships and I had a bad momentum a bad point of attraction.
I have a bad point of attraction with relationships and I'm like why do I keep attracting liars and cheaters and flaky people like I'm the opposite of that you know I pride myself on if I say I'm going to do something I'm going to be there I don't I don't lie like I've no too much about you know law of attraction and car man things coming back to everything what you what goes around comes around so I stay away from all of that stuff but I kept attracting liars and cheaters and flaky people it's I'm like why is that well what Greg Braden explains and I'm going to do that.
And this video is we also if you if it's not what you are in the moment it's what you judge in the moment what you judge that you also attract because of that energetic spark it's an energy we're putting out so it doesn't have to be that you are it I'm judging it that's enough to attract it does that make sense I put that spark out yeah and it changed my life it changed my life I had to do a judgment detox you know and start having compassion for people who are liars like you know that's really sad that they feel like they have to lie and cheat and do all these things like that.
In order to get someone to love them or so you know you have there's ways that you can change that around so you're not judging them anymore well what I love about the conversation we're having is it's I don't want to say it's less about addiction so I'm not minimizing that it's more about spiritual recovery because when you were talking about judgment I was brought back to a moment in my life where I would say I don't judge.
And then I know that sounds like I judge all the time that person doesn't go back to the workaholic aspect that person doesn't work as hard as I do there's this that and it was just this and it took me a couple years quite frankly not saying that there's still not judgment but at least I'm able to catch myself and or try not to when I'm at those moments and I noticed wow the things I didn't think were judgment our actual judgments it's like we also when we feel sorry for someone.
That also can be a judgment oh I feel sorry for ourselves about them right right and it's also an energy to like you said that spark it's that you're putting that out there whether and you may not realize that you are and it's the opposite the other thing I was getting was the I do a lot of work or try and help people I should say with when we were talking about emotions that you were discussing earlier when we're feeling something I went through a big moment of anxiety to where I was feeling all of it and I was
I noticed I needed to sit with it I needed to respect that anxiety I needed to yes there was all the things of going and deeper to figure out what was the cause but ultimately when I would feel that anxiety come up I was given the visual of an empty cup and so if I didn't fill that cup back up with something else joy, peace, bliss, happiness, whatever then that anxiety would kind of come back in the cup because energy creates space so what you're talking about to about that energetic spark whether it's through judgment or everything.
And it's the same thing through emotion, through our intention, hence the law of attraction we're kind of what I'm realizing the love of attraction while it has been I think over sanitized or overused and so much that people are like I don't want to talk about love attraction and manifesting it's still it's an energetic concept it's a universal law of how things work and operate and that's really what you are helping people do is understand not just our thoughts and our thoughts not being there.
And part of our self but how our energy attracts and how our intentions attract whether we want it or not and how to be more conscious and aware of how that operates with us in our day to day lives exactly and I have a saying I don't think you'll have to believe this out a little bit of a color for word but I've never heard anyone else say this so I say you can't because to go back to what you're saying about emotions because by the way emotions are a manifestation so you can't bullshit the universe meaning you what you do.
You feel is what you're going to attract and you in and it doesn't matter like if you're in denial about what you're feeling you're still going to try like I was in denial about judgment and what you say I never thought of this before Nicole but what you just said you said like you're judging if some like that person works doesn't work as hard as me compare comparison we can always compare I never even thought of that's a judgment you I never thought about that like when we compare ourselves that's the same thing as judging going back to social media.
This person has this many followers or this much engagement or comparison it's still a judgment it's still anyway we could talk all day about that but yeah it we in my mind and it's not also I then had to stop judging myself for judging to there that's the other thing it's this vicious cycle you know we really like that's another reason people get really stuck is isn't we don't forgive ourselves and we don't forgive other people like that is a huge thing that
to get to that next step to to up level your life is forgiveness and it's that's the hardest you know that's so hard for people to do is just finally forgive themselves but it's the most important I'm going to say the most important thing and forgiving yourself for maybe not being able to forgive that moment too
because sometimes it's a process I'm not trying to come with that's the other thing that just came in because sometimes people are like I'm not ready to forgive yet and then you're judging yourself for that and then you're being you're and it's it's all about just stop just it's a process and you're right and breathe and be okay with where you are at any moment in your life and your experiences
and sit with it for a moment to say okay is this something I'm all right with again for this moment in time and or then now if not what do I eventually need to do to create a different type of experience or existence and the biggest piece of that is what I'm hearing is you being able to understand recognize first and become aware of it and then understand it from a lens of compassion and empathy
and then deciding what needs to be done from there yeah for yourself and others we need to have come we I think sometimes it we don't we we are like we can be compassionate to other people but we're so hard on ourselves you know we're very self critical and that's that's we got to turn that around and like you said earlier it's all about catching yourself it's all and this is all practice and by the way this is daily work and that is something I think people don't realize this and it gets easier
it gets easier and easier every day just becomes part of your life like brushing your teeth it's but it's you have to do it every day just like you just the energetic work is what I'm talking about just like that when we go to a gym to work out on muscles you don't go one one time and or you get you know you have a good day and you're like okay I'm done working out and you're just going to keep your muscles no this is work we have to do every single day to stay keep energetically strong keep in a high frequency as much as possible don't beat yourself up when you're at a
lower frequency it happens to everybody you just catch yourself and then you you there are things that's kind of what my coaching is about to is there are things that we can do to get ourself out of that lower frequency as soon as possible but you know don't get upset with yourself it's just being human and we're all human we're supposed to be having a human experience like I said earlier like it's okay that's what we're here for and we usually say it's it's part of our yes exactly it's part of our spiritual growth and journey but also I keep
caring spiritual recovery of that is like you know again it's a learning process for all of us as we're going through these things I do want to get to a little bit more if we can maybe paraphrase or summarize because you do do a lot and offer a lot for people with the law of attraction or anything
else that you want to maybe call out related to how you work or maybe some ways that people can you know start to incorporate these things more into their life so essentially not just
people are to come to you what would you advise people like what are those first steps to getting on the road to spiritual recovery or working within themselves well a lot of it is just the first thing as awareness so if you even feel like it like something I said resonated with you here's what I did like I and by the way if somebody is life's a and I think it's great I would never discourage somebody for doing a but if if you're like me an a is not
good for you because I did try a for me it kept me in the older vibration and it kept me from moving forward it made me want to drink does that make sense so in other people it's great it gives them the social outlet it gives them something to do during this time they've been
normally be drinking structure they need the structure and you know that's a great point of cool because I really hate structures so like I like my freedom I don't want to have to have
structures so that's that's part of me of my personality so so I know there's going to be other people out there like me who it just didn't work for them and in fact it worked in a more
negative way kept you stuck in that old vibration so but if you're like me what do you want to do is start we like I said really we kind of brainwash
ourselves with all of this negative stuff like our whole lives it's it's reprogramming it's becoming aware it's knowledge just follow people who are
good role models and who who are follow people who are where you want to be study them learn you don't have to hire a coach hiring a coach is good because it's like you're
going to get to your goals faster like you're going to get to your goals faster if you hire someone who's been doing it for 20 years and then because I feel like I wasted a lot of time where I like it could have been yeah there's some accountability and also there is something we
said about paying somebody for something people really pay attention when they're paying they just do and they kind of take for granted things that are free
and they you know kind of throw that information away so there there's so many good things about coaching because you have someone who's already always
hire someone who's been through exactly what you need help with not just someone who's read the books okay you want someone who's been through
been through it because they're going to be they're going to resonate relate to you and they're going to be most helpful
so number one is making that just becoming aware of the problem and then really get you know following the right people positive messaging
I have a I published a deck of cards called addiction recovery with the law of attraction and they have all of the techniques on
them I called them that it was a download this wasn't like my idea yeah what share yeah share that because that's actually kind
of sort of how we met I have a friend and I'm and they more says she I'm sure she'll be listening to this
kind of person who told me about your podcast yeah Marisha see ha hello so um she one day sends me your
podcast and it's like you're going to love her and I was I was like oh okay a psychic story so she
knows obviously knows me because yes I three three hundred psychic nailed it three hundred psychics later
and um so I started listening and I got obsessed like I was I listened to like I got like caught up
or whatever you know I I mean I listened to quite a few every day that week so it was a week
and then the victory of light expo here in Cincinnati which I think now they call body mine spirit
I think I called myself um shout out to Victor Pruta for he was the one who started it the victory of light
and so I've been going for so many years so many years and I was leaving so before I went to the
victory of light expo I actually was guided to bring three depths of cards to give away as a gift to
gift them I was guided to do this I just knew I had to and that's kind of like my clairs are clear
clear cognizance and clear sentience clear knowing and clear feeling so I I take those that when I get
those little nudges I take that inspired action every time because especially when I'm in a high
vibing mood I know something good is going to happen I'm going to get a nice spiritual rendezvous
out of this when I take that inspired action so that's what I did I took that inspired action brought
the three decks of cards and it it was like right when I got there someone is I had a conversation
and I was like oh my gosh here's I knew that she was one of the people that needed the decks of cards
and then another person and then you know I wasn't there that long because remember I had my dog
with me your little cutie petudi he's Rika Suave is so cute so I had my little long hair Chihuahua
with me and he was getting restless so I was leaving and as I was walking out I walked by your
booth and I see a psychic story that I was right at the end everything was like shutting down
mm-hmm everything was shutting down I was leaving oh maybe that's why I was leaving maybe I'm
living my dog maybe it was over okay they kicked me out Nicole that's what really happened
but yeah so I was like oh my and I had to talk to you yeah because your co-host was there and
he was heading out that's your co-author yes that was there and so then I actually I sat down and
I talked to you and I tell the story about Marsha and then I was like I just heard you know was
guided to hand you the deck because and I was leaving without giving that I didn't even realize
I wasn't even giving that last deck away I was like oh my gosh and here here that's this is why
I still have just a third deck it's for you and you said I cannot believe you just said that my
guides or your guides told you that you were going to receive a free deck of cards right and you
were thinking it was you were so funny because you said I had the last thing I need is another
deck of cards you know and I didn't want to buy you know buy a deck and they said they said no
no no you're not going to buy it's going to be free and there was like somebody selling all those
decks of cards like yeah and I kept looking at it for two days straight I was like I am not buying
another deck of cards I'm not doing it you were like in resistance mode and then here I am and
it's so funny because we both you know we're heard that guidance and then it just worked out and
then now here we are talking on your episode and it's amazing I love that's so that's a
divinely coordinated spiritual rendezvous and that is one of the things that my coaching helps
is helps people to learn how to do those kinds of things and how to really get to know their own
inner guidance I don't want people to rely on me I want to give them the tools so that they can
do this themselves right and once this is stuff that once you know it you don't unknow it
there's no turning back yeah and when we sat down when you gave me the cards what I also really
thoroughly love about the conversation is you were saying that I think you were on a walk and correct
me if I'm remembering this and you had this intuitive knowing and guidance to work on a deck and while
it has the lens of addiction and recovery there it really helps people what I would call
spiritual recovery or really processing any sorts of spiritual experiences and you pull the
messages and you can apply those in everyday life and I just thought it was so cool that not only
did we have our spiritual matchmakers putting us in touch but it was about a topic that I've
really been wanting to cover for quite a while because we tend to replace one thing for another
and not go within and understand so it was just so beautiful the way it all kind of came together
yeah I was out walking my dog one day and in this in the vortex I was definitely in the vortex
that day and it was a download of these cards and so and I knew I just know how it works when
you get those ideas you guys you got to jump on them because you are tapped into a higher frequency
it couldn't go by the way you feel if you're feeling like really passionate about it
you've got to jump you've got to jump in there if there's a funny story prince you know the
singer the artist notice formerly notice prince and then prince yeah I just heard this the other
day but he was saying something about I mean there's a story where he said to his band he called
them at three a.m. and he's like you guys we got to get in the studio we got to get in the studio
and they're like can't we do it like in three hours and he's like no we got to get an hour or
else Michael Jackson is going to take it so he knew like he knew how it works like when you get
these inspired things it's being put out there and you need to grab it you need to grab it
it's yeah it's not just you is whoever is tuned into that frequency so that's why you need to
jump in there and do that do we have time for me to tell you that angel story about me seeing the
angels I was hoping you would we have plenty of time we're not rushed I yeah I was actually hearing
how scared about the angel stories so this is perfect see there we go oh I just got full body
goosebumps okay so I actually called my so this was has to do with my hair stylist her name is
faith and I actually called her today because I wanted to make sure that I got the story perfectly
I know she's gonna be listening because I definitely don't want to ever exaggerate so she has
been struggling with this is pre-COVID and she's still trying to figure out actually but she's
been having struggling with really really severe health issues like immune stuff like Lyme disease
things like you know she's just really struggling just really it's it's not good and she's younger
she has younger children to daughters and she's been really scared doing everything alternative she
could everything holistic she's very into all of this stuff and I do a thing where I pray every morning
and I invite the angels into my day I invite my guides into my day you know source energy you know
whatever you want that's how I say it I ask for serendipity synchronous cities throughout my day
I highly recommend it I have three little alarms where I do three different prayers and one of them
is I invite like I it's asked to be a unit of light to help at least one person each day you know
with something that they need and she told me this morning she said she did a prayer that morning
which I already knew but I wanted to ask her I said what was your prayer and she said my prayer
was to the angels also and she said I asked for a direct message from the angels okay
so um I'm sitting there just that's slime like I've been going to her for so long and I
was just looking around her all of a sudden I see all of these orbs of beautiful colors of light
just dancing around on the walls and stuff and just and I was like whatever all these I said
I'm like because you know someone takes a photo sometimes you still see that
it's like flashing us like your eye like it's a sensitivity with your eyes yeah yeah and it was
beautiful colors all different colors just dancing all around and it was only in her station I didn't
see it anywhere else um so and now she works and this was a year ago okay I asked for that too it
was a year ago now she works on her own out of her house actually because of her health issues she
needed to get out of that toward that Kim Harper salon in Mason you might even know since you're
here in Cincinnati so that's where she worked and she she didn't see it and I'm like does anyone
else see it no one else it and it lasted about five solid minutes where I'm just seeing these
lights dancing all around and and I we explained to her what was happening and I'm like you don't
say I thought she was messing with me that there's no way she doesn't see this and she goes oh my
god my sister temple so her sister psychic she says that's how she sees angels as these colorful
orb of lights and they're always like going to the corners and they do when everything that I was
describing to faith as they were doing so I was like oh my gosh and okay so later that day and this
is how I am with all my psychic experience I'm totally into what I'm like oh my god it was a
cool thing that happened and then later I'm like did that even really happen you know like you
know you blow it up like I literally see spirits and later like what was that real though but so um
I think we all do that we all question ourselves faith actually saw a spirit in her house and she
was telling me she was like she said I do the same thing I was I've questioned it and but it
it's it's just something it's human but it just seems so crazy so that night and I so Jen
Dundee is that lady I was telling you about she's gotta be a guest on your show she is so amazing
the angel's messages that come she I've for years by the way Marsha the one from Austin who
introduced me to your show her dad's the one who found Jen Dundee so there's all these awesome
connections and so I've been talking to her for she has she works with the team of angels she
talks to all of them all the big waves Michael Raphael Gabriel all of them so she worked for the
team team of angels that started with a dramatic experience she had that's what triggered her
abilities so I was like I this was driving me crazy about the experience with the the angels
and I wanted validation so I texted Jen Dundee and she's gonna be listening to your show this
she could I told her I was gonna be on here and so I got permission I'm like can I bring up your name
and she's like sure sure so she um she'd sent me she goes oh my gosh she said yes those were
faiths angels there were 13 of them which is a lot and and Jen didn't know anything about faith
and she said but apparently faith needs a lot of angels right now and the messages you are safe
so I didn't I couldn't do all of that for her I can see the angels but this is the universe going
this chick has a big mouth she's going she's got connections with angel people she's going to
they knew it was all coordinated that way because they know that I'm not gonna shut up about it and
I'm gonna ask somebody who knows and then I can deliver the message to faith that is so cool yes
I and it's also so amazing that you saw them for like a full five minutes five minutes because when
I see them I've been trying to practice where when they finally come up it's almost like out of the
corner your your eye or you see it but when you try and focus it disappears but more and more
I use given example like through the stereogram it's like you're supposed to focus but not focus
anyway there's a whole thing about it but the full five minutes that's so cool but I think
do you know what that tells me my feeling is that faith just really needed it and it needed to be
because I'm actually even though a lot of people think I'm woo woo I'm actually extremely practical
extremely logical extremely rational and I needed it to be in my face for five minutes for me
to get to the point where I'm gonna say something so I didn't blow it off yeah well that's exactly what
I was gonna say the full five minutes was not just a fleeting moment where you've been like yeah
it's evidence of this was not just high by this was her asking you asking that coordination them
appearing and manifesting to such a way that what a beautiful thing for you to be able to do and
make that connection for her and the message of your safe or she's safe exactly exactly and
and and that was the that's the gift that Jen has is she actually sees them and she hears them
and very clearly like I've had so many sessions with her for guidance and she's that she's just
so amazing like I like I said she's top two I got two favorites top two out of three hundred eight
two shabby well so Mary Beth how can people reach you so my link trees the best way are you
gonna post it in the show notes but it's but I'm day one life coaching D-A-Y-O-N-E somebody else
has that uses the number one day one lifecoaching.com I'm Mary Beth Shutter I'm all all over I'm on
every platform tiktok Instagram Facebook both as my company name day one life coaching and also
Mary Beth Shutter all right S-C-H-R-U-D-D-E-R so my addiction recovery with a law of attraction cards
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so that's why I made these oils these steps baby steps well thank you so much Mary Beth I
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