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Everybody loves this English grammar.
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Today, we answer a listener question,
what is the difference between everyone and everybody?
Find out if it matters.
Plus, learn how to know when to use anyone
versus everyone in English conversations.
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Hey there, Aubrey. What's going on?
Hi, Lindsey.
I'm great. It's rainy here today.
I love a rainy day.
Oh, I feel like it never rains in Arizona.
Not very often, I know.
So it's exciting for us, which Jessica finds hilarious
because in Portland, it rains all the time.
Right.
But not here. Not here.
Interesting.
Okay. What are we getting into today?
This is going to be fun.
I have a question for you, actually.
I know there's been a ton of snowfall this year.
Oh, yeah.
So a lot of people have been skiing.
I know you ski.
But what about your friends?
Does anyone you know ski?
Oh, yeah.
I pretty much...
Not everyone, but many people that I know do ski.
Yes.
Okay, gotcha.
So not everyone, but sound people.
Not everyone.
Okay. This is interesting.
We're diving into today the difference between everyone and anyone.
This can cause a lot of confusion.
I feel like a lot of language learners are either not sure.
I've gotten a lot of questions about this or they avoid them entirely
because they're not sure they're using them correctly.
Right. And that's also actually a good skill.
You shouldn't avoid a word, but it forces you to build more vocabulary
when you do actually try to find another way to say something.
It's kind of cool.
Yes.
When you have some paraphrase, right?
Yeah.
You're like pulling from your brain box all the other ways you have to say something.
It's so true.
Yeah, brain box.
And by the way, that term comes from our IELTS course, three keys IELTS,
IELTS energy podcast.
Tell us a little bit about that show, actually, Aubrey, for a minute.
So Jessica and I are the co-hosts, two episodes every week.
If you are studying for IELTS or know anyone who's studying for IELTS,
it really is a fantastic podcast.
You learn all kinds of strategies, vocabulary, everything you would need to know
in order to get the score you need on IELTS.
So, but even if you're not studying for IELTS, honestly, we talk about fun vocab,
slang, idioms, all the time.
So I know a lot of our listeners aren't even studying for IELTS,
so maybe check it out, even if you're not preparing for that exam.
Yeah, check it out.
So you can find that by going to the search bar right now,
wherever you're listening and typing in IELTS energy podcast,
and you'll see the yellow, you'll see Aubrey and Jessica go into that show
and hit follow, hit that follow button, Apple podcast, Spotify, YouTube,
subscribe, wherever it is.
Okay.
Yeah, just like all there's English here, a lot of our episodes are on YouTube.
So if you're more a visual learner, you want to watch us on the mic,
absolutely check it out on YouTube, IELTS energy TV.
Yeah, we pretty much do all of our episodes now.
We really scaled that up Aubrey.
Pretty much everything we do is now on video on YouTube.
Across all of you guys, right?
We had a lot of our listeners say, I would rather watch a video of you podcasting
because that's fun.
I like to watch video podcasts too.
So yeah, we listened and now we did it.
We're doing this on YouTube.
I love it.
I'm personally more of an audio learner.
I really like to just put my headphones in, walk my dog, go to the park.
I don't like to be on YouTube, right?
But some people do and we respect that and we love that.
So good.
Absolutely.
All right.
Do we have a question?
Do you want to read the question from our listener?
Yeah, this was inspired by a listener question about everyone and everybody.
So let's go ahead and read that.
And then we're going to dive into the difference between those and also anyone
and anybody.
Do you want me to read the question?
Sure.
Yeah, why not?
Why not?
Okay.
He said, hello, my name is Ezekiel.
I'm from El Salvador, but I live in New York.
Awesome.
Congratulations on your great program.
Thank you.
Thank you for listening.
They said, my question is, what's the difference between everyone and everybody?
I get it.
I get it.
It's so weird that we have both words then when they're so similar in meaning.
Right, Lindsey?
Oh, yeah.
For some reason, I think my initial thought is when I think about everybody, I think about
music for some reason, like songs, the choice of everybody instead of everyone being more
common in songs.
I don't know why.
Maybe we'll find out why.
Yeah.
They do have the same meaning.
You can use them interchangeably.
Everybody is just slightly more informal.
That's why we hear it in pop songs probably, right?
They're always going for slang for more informal ways of saying things in music.
Absolutely.
I wouldn't worry about it, right?
If you're giving a presentation, I feel like they're interchangeable enough.
No one's going to say everybody instead of everyone and I'm going to think, oh, that's
kind of a little too informal.
No, they're so similar that I think you can use both without stressing about it.
Yeah, it's not going to be a glaring mistake.
Good bonus for today.
Glaring mistake.
No one is going to be confused or feel like you've done a big, like you're totally mismatching
the tone of the environment, right?
Exactly, right?
And like one of the most formal situations you could be in like a job interview, if you're
talking about work and you say, you know, everybody at my old position, blah, blah,
versus everyone at my old position, no one's going to bat an eye.
Not like they're just so interchangeable.
It's you can use either.
Yeah.
So we're getting into a little grammar today, right?
So do we have some other grammar episodes that we've done in the past on all our days?
Yes.
Recently, we have done quite a bit of great grammar episodes.
If you've missed them, go back and check them out.
A couple examples, 1937, didn't versus wouldn't.
A listener's English grammar question answered.
That was an awesome one that you and Michelle did.
So don't miss that one, guys.
Okay.
Awesome.
And then 1905, type that into your search bar.
We hope you'll use this impressive grammar.
Yeah, we've been trying to do more and more grammar episodes for you guys because we know
you want that, you've requested that.
So we're going to get it for you, but we're always going to keep in mind our core value
as a community of connection.
Exactly, right?
Yeah.
Scrambers important.
You guys want to be using correct grammar, but I love that that's we're always coming
back to that.
Like, yes, right?
Learn the grammar, but also don't let it stop you from communicating from connecting,
right?
Don't let it hold you back.
That's so good.
It gets me so excited.
Okay.
What do we need to go through here?
What do we need to know from a grammar perspective?
Yeah.
So this, I have gotten a lot of questions about when to use everyone or anyone, right?
Or everybody or anybody.
And this is a little trickier.
This we need to understand the grammar.
We need to understand what these words mean because they are different.
They are used in different contexts.
So we're going to dive into these, give you example sentences and a role play.
So you'll be able to use them with confidence.
Okay.
So just to make sure we're clear here for our listeners.
So we're saying that everyone and everybody is basically the same, just a difference of
casual, but today we're contrasting everyone, everybody versus anyone, anybody.
Is that right?
Exactly, right?
And okay is different.
So that might be where the confusion is.
If someone tells you everyone and everybody are the same and you translate that to anyone
and anybody, which looks sort of similar.
No, there's a different meaning here.
There's different grammar here.
So yeah, you want to be aware when to use which one.
So we said before that everyone is kind of every person, right?
Let's go through each one here, right?
Yeah, exactly.
For example, is everyone watching the news, right?
Is every person watching the news very standard works anywhere?
Exactly.
Exactly.
And same meaning, everybody, just slightly more informal, but you could absolutely also
say, is everybody watching the news?
I mean, it's the same thing.
Native speakers aren't going to notice any difference really.
Absolutely.
And like I said before, you might hear everybody in songs more often just because it is more
casual, but then Aubrey, we get into anyone and anybody.
And here's where we see the contrast for our listeners.
Exactly.
These have different meanings.
So anyone means any person, like any one person.
Okay.
So if you say, is anyone going to happy hour after work?
This is a different meaning, right?
Totally.
Then if you said, is everyone going to happy hour?
You're not talking about every person.
You're talking about any individual.
It's completely different.
It's a completely different question, right?
Is there any person, is anyone going?
Is there any person going to happy hour after work, right?
And you could see how this could create confusion if someone isn't really clear about the difference.
And they say, is everyone going?
When they mean, is anyone going?
Then the answer they're going to get is incorrect.
There's confusion.
We don't understand.
We're in your surprise that there's only one person when you thought everyone was going.
So we need to understand the difference.
That's so true.
It's so true.
So what about anybody then?
Yeah.
So this has the same meaning as anyone.
Just like everyone and everybody have the same meaning, anyone and anybody.
Exactly the same where there's just that slight bit of, it's more informal to say anybody.
Maybe we would hear it in music more, just like everybody.
Right.
But they're very interchangeable.
So you could say, is anybody going to happy hour after work?
Yeah.
Now this is interesting.
I feel there's this tiny bit of connotation that I would be like, is anybody going?
Like almost assuming nobody isn't or you're like upset that so many people have said no.
Right.
And instead of saying, is anyone going?
I might say, is anybody going?
Like why is no one going?
Right.
Because maybe we're going to the buddy part, right?
Everybody, everybody.
When, like you said, more casual, more emphatic, you're trying to emphasize things.
It's less standard.
You're not just delivering the message.
You're delivering the message with kind of an emotion or some, something added to it.
Would you say so?
Yes, exactly.
Right.
But again, don't stress about that because if you use one or the other, if you're using
them interchangeably, you can create that emphasis with your intonation.
Right.
Yeah.
You could say, is anyone going?
Right.
Everyone's saying no.
Totally.
Yeah.
Okay.
I love it.
Let's put this into a role place where listeners can really get it.
This is the kind of episode I think role plays are key.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yes.
This is a fun one.
You and I are ordering food for it.
Get together in this role play.
I'll start us out.
Ready?
Does everyone want pizza?
Yeah.
Everybody said they're up for pizza.
Do you think anyone would want breadsticks?
Yeah.
For sure.
Oh, and what about dessert?
Anybody want dessert, do you think?
Absolutely.
Let's get the synestics.
Synestics.
It's like pizza places here where there's like cinnamon breadsticks that are like the
dessert, right?
Oh my gosh.
They're so delicious.
I did an Instagram update on Saturday because we ordered our favorite pizza, which is the
deep dish we do sometimes on the weekend.
Mm-hmm.
But I was actually this time around.
It wasn't that good.
I think they put someone else in the kitchen.
What's going wrong at that place?
Oh, yeah.
Something's going scary.
I know whenever there's like a new chef, a new cook hired, they might not have it down
quite yet.
Hopefully they'll get some quality control in there and get it back up to par.
Exactly.
So anyways, all right, we'll go through these.
So what did we say first?
Where do we see the first?
Yeah, first I said, does everyone want pizza?
And there is a very different meaning than if I say, does anyone want pizza?
I want to know if every person at the party is down for pizza or do we need to get some
other options, right?
Right.
Because maybe someone is on a low salt diet or who knows?
We have all different diets, right?
They don't like pizza.
Okay.
We need to order some salads.
Yeah.
Everyone wants pizza.
Okay, it's easy.
Let's just get some pizza.
Yeah, we've got a very carb heavy meal coming on the pipe here.
Right.
Preach, steak, pizza, and dessert.
Right.
And then we said, yes, everybody said they're up for pizza, right?
And then so yes, everybody, I responded, use everyone.
I don't have to mirror back everyone to you.
That's important for our listeners to know too.
I can switch to be more casual.
Yes, exactly.
That's such a good skill.
And we don't usually, we don't always think about it when we're first learning a language,
just like not repeating vocabulary when there is another way to say it, right?
Instead of saying, yes, everyone said they're up for pizza.
You're repeating exactly what I said.
Yeah.
So I'm going to put it up.
Mm-hmm.
And then I said, do you think anyone would want breadsticks?
Right.
Do you think anyone is there some person in the room who would want breadsticks?
Okay.
Yeah, it'd be a very different question if you're saying, do you think everyone wants
breadsticks?
Maybe we're only going to order them if every person there wants them.
No, this is like, if anyone wants them, if any one person, I want them.
If anyone else does, I'm going to get them.
Right.
Right.
And the next one is kind of cool because we're asking a question, right?
And we're dropping.
You want to read that?
What did I ask?
Yeah, this is an interesting grammar bonus where you could have said, you know, do you
think anybody wants dessert and we're flipping it?
We're saying, anybody want dessert, do you think?
Wow.
It's such an interesting grammar form.
Just to switch up the way we do this all the time, especially when we're being very
informal, we'll drop the subject, the verb, we'll flip it and have anybody at the beginning
and then subject verb at the end like this.
There are so many options.
Yeah.
And guys, as our listeners, if you're ready for this, stretch yourself and try this kind
of way of asking a question, super advanced, super native, you're not going to reach that
high, high level of connection, right?
If you're just following the old structures that are so solid, but we need to be able
to make mistakes and try creative ways of asking questions like this, right?
Absolutely.
And we could have done this with the question you asked when you said, do you think anyone
would want bread sticks?
You could also say, anyone want bread sticks, do you think?
Or just anyone want bread sticks, right?
We were just shortening.
We're removing subject verb because it's an informal conversation.
Mm-hmm.
I love it.
I love it.
There's a lot we can do here.
What's the takeaway for our listeners today?
Yeah.
So first of all, I'm so glad this listener sent in this question.
There's no need to stress about the difference between everyone and everybody and also anyone
and anybody, right?
They're interchangeable.
So this is the good news.
This is one thing you don't have to worry about.
Yes, but we did bring up that there is a real difference between everybody and anybody,
right?
Mm-hmm.
Or everyone and anyone.
So pay attention to that.
That's the key teaching today, guys.
And don't be afraid to make mistakes, right?
Exactly, right?
Use these in everyday conversations with friends, with coworkers.
And up level your English, just like you were saying, Lindsay, you guys are at that level
where you can take these other grammar forms, play around with that a little bit when you
know that you can be a little more informal.
Yeah.
And we mentioned in this episode the isles energy podcast.
So go check that out.
A whole new way to learn, right?
A different team, different combination of hosts, right?
Get deeper into all of your English and all of the podcasts that we offer.
Good stuff.
Absolutely.
Don't miss out on isles energy, guys.
It's so funny.
It's so fun and funny.
Just funny, funny if I do say so myself.
So yeah, check it out.
So good.
All right, Aubrey, thanks for being on today.
Talk to you soon.
Awesome.
See you next time.
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