AS8 Pegging (w/ Mano Agapion, Big Dipper, & Meatball)

This is a headgum original. ♫ Scary little toothbrush and shade ♫ ♫ Keep keep keep with the gaze ♫ ♫ It's time to drag on ♫ ♫ Time to drag on ♫ ♫ Drag on ♫ ♫ Drag on ♫ Oh, wow, Diva Las Vegas! We've got some Divas here. They're not your mommies, but they are your moms. We are very excited. Oh, no. I am... Sorry, off the rails. It's already insane. I always bring that energy. For the third week in a row, I'm bringing you pre-coverage of our seat. Oh, you're edging. I'm edging. I've been losing it. You're doing good? I never thought I'd be talking about Kasha Davis for so many hours of my life, but here we are. We did me! Listen, I can take something I knew. I knew. You had a feeling. You're listening to the one and only... I have a feeling to start quality. That's... if you don't have all-star quality, get the fuck out, you know? If you are listening for the first time ever, you're listening to the one and only RuPaul's Drag Race Read Cap podcast. I'm anoagapion, and the lovely voices you're hearing are of the sloppy second tondras themselves. We've got Big Dipper and Meatball! Hello! Hello! Oh! I just want to say that I love this tradition that we've come up with, and I do want to let you know that when we pegged all of the Season 15 placements... Yes. How might we? I was Team Anitra, and none of y'all saw it. You were like, she's Vegas, I don't see it for her. Who is that? And I put her in the top too. I just want to remind you. Wow. That's very you'd also like to track it and call us out. Because all I remember was... I get no respect. All I remember was when we brought up Princess Poppy, I said next. Yes. And I maybe was correct about that, because she's a quick drag. Yeah, she nexted herself on the next bus. She's like... Yeah, that was very slay. I'm curious to see what's going to happen. It is an unsustainable business. Being on Drag Race is an unsustainable business, which is what I said last week, which my co-host just agreed with me. I was like, is it harder to get on All Stars than to get on a regular season? No. No. Okay. Well, if you're a girl that they don't like, then yes. That's why I think that's what I'm saying. If you're a girl that maybe says something about eating ass, in fact, it's maybe it's not your time. I just worry about these early out girls. Like, what do they do? They do drag and do their craft just waiting to get back on television. Like, what is Amethyst going to do right now? Well, she's going to record music and do her thing. She's going to make music and do her thing. Do her thing. And be an internet diva. I think the case study in this theory, Mono, is Kylie Sonek Love. Okay. Okay. Because the deal with Kylie was she didn't have a great run her first season because she was dealing with all the inner turmoil of whether or not to be out on the show. Then she came out in the reunion and Drag Race actually touted that as the first sort of piece of trans representation on the show because it was such an early season. But then they never fucked with her again for years and years and years and years and years. I know, right? And Kylie. Then she re-emerged on the holiday show and then went on to take the crown. And I knew from behind the scenes conversations that she had said sort of like not publicly on social media, but like out in her social circles. Like she said like, I'm waiting for my turn. Like the tide will change. They will come around. But it's hard. It's hard to sit there and wait a decade for your turn. It's a long time. Say something. Also, there's the thing of they are given such a huge platform. And a lot of them. It's huge. It's huge. International. Your gayness. The world must know about it. And then a lot of them just don't do anything. They do just sit and wait. None of them are like, let me create my own content. Let me do this. And the girls that do, they fumble it somehow. Right. You can make a line of crayons and bitches will buy it. Which is why I thought marshes like makeup box was genius. Oh, it's genius. Genius. And I know a bunch of bitches bought it. I know. It is a good point. Like you have to do something once you get the platform. And I guess I hope that's changing. I just worry about some of the 72 season 15 girls. Well, it makes me. You know. Those poor girls. Well, it's not only 14 because one of them did quit. Remember. Oh, okay. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's true. Okay. Have y'all even come down from season 15, which by the way, me and me, Paul, we're at the finale. I love playing before you. You were a stronger person than I. I was stronger than yesterday, but it was fun. It was a good ass time. It was fun. It is crazy to think about. I saw clips of Sasha Colby on the Daily Show. And she was like, it's been two weeks. It's only been two weeks since you won the crown. I know. That's crazy. I know what I think is crazy is like, okay. Oh, D-D-S-S. That's crazy. I really agree. That has too many letters to spell out. I don't know. She got me. She got me gal. Like I've been eating it. You're doing the dishes. You're walking around the house. You're making the TikTok where the sun's stuck in your head. Everything you eat. Does anyone have like a voice for their animal? I, okay. Basically, I have a voice for my dog and I've been pretending that my dog is singing it. Well, so give us a taste. So my dog's voice is something like this. J-O-D-D-S-S. Oh, there it is. You know what I mean? I feel it. I'm even pretending that my dog is singing the song because it's stuck in my head. But also, my dog is also a Lucy Laduka stand. So, okay. Well, let's talk Lucy Laduka at the finale and then we'll get into these. Lads. Because all that happened was anytime me and Nicole ran out of things to talk about, which happened quickly because we were already there for five hours. We would just look over at Lucy and go, God, that's scary. I'm not scared. Yeah. That's scary. God, that's scary. It is very scary. I wanted to say one thing about and then we'll get into it. I wanted to say one thing about it. I wanted to say one thing about it. Okay. I want to hear it all. The thing about the season 15 about it being like, oh, it just ended two weeks ago. Remember when American Idol premiered and the first like five seasons of that show were like the biggest thing on television? Yes. Right. And then it's Clarkson. Then it started. Ooh. Larry Underwood. Larry Underwood. Like I didn't mean them. And then even Jennifer Hudson, she was on like a later season, right? Yeah. Who was the guy who sang She Bangs? William Hong. William Hong. William Hong. Had a moment. Who was the guy that was in from Justin D'Acchale? Justin Guarini. Justin Guarini. That movie is amazing. Have you seen the footage of Marjorie Taylor Greene on American Idol? Wait. And okay, yes, I have. But then someone said, is that her? Is that not her? Because it looks like her. It's her. It smells like her. It is. It smells like her. It is. That show through marketing and being on a major network and the moment in time that it was and that it really catered to an all American all encompassing audience premiered at like the largest scale. Drag Race premiered at a niche scale and is still growing. It's mind boggling to me that in season 15 and all stars eight, like we're that deep into it. It's still getting new audiences. The press tour. You remember early season what happened when you won? You got $20,000 and did a gay bar tour. Now Sasha Colby's on national television day after day after day after day and she won $200,000. It is. It's gone quick. There's going to be a season of Drag Race where they win a million dollars. It's going to happen. Even season eight, like right? Like there's very funny stories. I'm sure we've all heard that like of like they then making the girls get in drag before they get on a bus to drive six hours to San Francisco. Yes. And the there wasn't a communication at that. Like people were like, we don't do that. That's fucking crazy. Like whereas now the conversation is like, oh yeah, treat them like with some respect. No, now it's we've gone too far. We treat them better than we treat real celebrities. Yeah. Yeah. It's fucking wild. Well, then let's drag them a little bit on your list. Let's drag these bitches. All stars eight. All stars eight. The seasons of the beggars. You know what I mean? Fuck. All stars eight. The fame games. You mean the. Oh, sorry. The fame game. The fame games. It is quite ironic. This is the season of the fame games. I agree. Why? Why are you saying beggars? I don't kid it. What's happening? Because he's in my opinion. In my opinion is someone that has been. I said it was my opinion has been campaigning to be on. Yes. So season of the campaign. Mano, hold on a second. I want to talk about these tabs. Oh, are you writing? Aren't you on strike? Yeah, diva. I am fully on strike. I am fully on strike. He came from the strike to record this to run back. Look, there's blenders in my hands. The final draft open. You're fine. Thank you. It's just it's a little and it just happened. And hey, support the WTA. I'm writing it. No, that's okay. I'm writing a show with Betsy Sidera and Gilly Naseem. They're excited called ski show ski show. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. Well, till we get paid like humans, not animals. And then you'll hear more about it. Anything else you want to come from? Oh, see, look, there's a WJ strike rule tab. Have a clock bat tab. Right, you're trying to see what the rules are for you to be on strike. Yeah, clock. We were. What are you thinking about all stars eight? You're we're saying that, yeah, some of them are early out. Some of them are early out. I guess there can only be so many seasons of like high level players. Whoa. Are you looking at Heidi's old makeup? No, I'm just hearing the words that you said. High level players. I mean, it's no secret that the producers have some ideas of who they want to go far. It doesn't always pan out, but they have ideas of who they want to go far. And so at a certain point, you will have to bring back some early out folks in order to flush out an all star season. Yeah. And if this thing is going to be happening every year at this point, yeah, they got to spread it out. Uh huh. I mean, look at look at the challenge or whatever they do in MTV. I got the same people every year. It's the same people. Flexing their muscles and playing tug of war, which this is the first season. It's not almost all the cast is new to all stars. I, I think Jimbo is, I kind of include Jimbo as one of the repeat all stars because I include UK versus the world. Yeah. Some people don't are all stars. Yeah. Those are all stars. So Heidi, let's talk Heidi. Obviously Heidi is an icon and probably the most likable queen here. Where do you all peg in her? Well, well, aren't they, don't they have this non elimination season or yes, right? If you did another non elimination or isn't that like one that's non eliminate like the all winners is non elimination again or is this not non elimination? I don't know. This is my confusion because we have to, before we start pegging them, we have to understand the fame game because they basically say there's two crowns you can win. You can win the competition or you can like win the audience choice. What's what I'm saying? Is it American Idol vote at home or is it like your sister's vote? I don't know. Is it like Miss Kim? I hope it's, I hope it's, I hope it's what he's saying. It's a, I hope it's non elimination. I hope one person wins based on the judges and one person wins based on the queens and that Heidi gets Miss Congeniality. But how, how are we supposed to peg them if they don't go home? Well, we can pretend. Well, I don't, I don't figure. You can just peg where you think they finish. You can finger them. Yeah, we can finger them. How many are there? 10, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12. So Heidi in closet. Look, I think she's in, I think she's in the top four, but I kind of want her to win. Of course we want her to win. I don't think it's going to happen though. You don't know because they want her back. She is amazing television. Yeah, she's too good for them to let go. They would rather put her on a another All-Stars than let her win this. 100% or like have her. Really? Such a glow up here that she becomes. She is the fan favorite of this season already. A hundred percent. Clearly. And that's what I'm saying is like, so then will her sisters keep her there? Like will she win the fan game? I think she's going to glow up so hard and then they're going to make her a mentor on Secret Celebrity Cross-R Game. I'll peg her. You know I'm so good. Oh yeah. I'll peg her. I think she's a runner up. I'm going to peg her second at the Greensboro Natural Science Center because she's a North Carolina bitch. Oh, and I'm going to peg her third. Mm-hmm. And I'm going to peg her at a Walgreens. You go with me. Okay. No, I don't want to. Okay, get a brush. Gonna get some hairspray. We're going to pump that wig up. Okay, yeah, you're going to pump, pump, pump it up. I heard a rumor. Oh. Tell me. About Heidi and something shocking and fun. I'm not going to say it, but I feel like Queen go take a dime. There's a twist. Interesting. There probably is. That's all. I am one of those rare bitches that actually don't deep dive into the spoilers, but... Me neither. Someone just said it to my face. Yeah, they do that. Don't you love looking at my face? They do that when they think that you already know or want to know ever. You already know. You already know. No. Okay. Let's talk about Mrs. Cusher Dabers. I mean... I just say that her... The catchphrase lives on. She is... Oh, and you're talking about I'm sober now and still when I see here all I want to say is there's always time for a cocktail. Yeah. She's amazing. I actually love her and her bravery for coming back after. She's like one of the most dogged queens. We are here to spend thousands to prove that she deserves more. And with a slight styling change out of drag, she really could give it to the young chickens. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I still think she hasn't changed her aesthetic too much, so God bless. But it'll be curious to see if they like that or if they'll dog her still. Will they respect her more or not at all? I want someone to say that right to her face. You know what I think will happen is that I think that she like... I think the audience has been around long enough that they're going to be like, well, you do something that maybe we all don't love but you do it well so we're going to give you the A-okay. You know what I mean? I think you're correct. We'll kill. We'll kill. We'll kill. So you're saying that they're just going to like let her... They're just going to pass her sailor through. Yeah. I think, look, in a world where she goes home or we're counting points, I would still put peg her or finger her tent. I haven't heard Lucinda's tent as well. I love her as fourth. That's also possible. That is also very possible. I have a feeling just because of her presence on the internet and like everything she's been doing since her time on Drag Race. I think she's very talented. I do. I think that the looks are going to be a 10 out of 10 every week. No, but I think she's going to slay these challenges. Yeah. And I like the way she looks like a Pac-Man ghost. No, you know what she looks like? Huh. The Astro World guy. The old guy who... Oh. Oh, but that's where the murder app... Next Queen. Fourth. And I'll peg her at Freeman's Alley, my favorite bar. She could just watch me drink. I was going to... Funnily enough, I literally wrote this before. I'll peg her at the opening of the upcoming theme park Trixie World because the Trixie Empire must grow. Oh, I will peg her in a wood shop while we chop wood and do some planing. You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, wow. Well, Mrs. Naysha Lopez. There's always time for a phone call. Mrs. Naysha Lopez, what do we think this bitch coming in like jail bait? I don't think she'll do well. No, me and Mrs. Naysha. She's on my list as 12. I like it. She came to Fat's lot once. She was very nice. Mm-hmm. 12. I think Naysha is very bad at drag race. I think she's incredible at Patjens. I think she is a great performer. Yeah. I think she doesn't understand the pocket you have to be in. She's a Jamaica TV show. She's too earnest about everything. Yeah. So I think she's first out and I think she's going to continue her legacy of going first. I am being the Roscoe's host. That's right. And she's good at that and she's good at live. I'll peg her 12th on a United flight that she takes weekly from LA to Chicago in order to host her Roscoe's viewing partner. Interesting, interesting because I said that I was going to peg her on the American Airlines flight that she takes from LA to Chicago weekly. I'll keep this going and peg her on a condemned Virgin Atlantic airplane when no longer in service. Yeah, I'm worried. Again, and if she's there all season, okay. Just already based on watching the interviews that they did, she was doing, she was too earnest and like trying to answer the questions too real. And it's hard when there's people like candy mues there. Right. There's one queen that really failed the interviews for me and I'll tell you who that is. But first, silence divas. I feel like taking a break. This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp. You know, if you know, you know, and if you don't know, you better know because the time to talk to someone is yesterday. Don't worry if you've never done it before. It's actually really easy. My journey of finding a licensed professional therapist was made easy, fun and approachable with the help of BetterHelp. Yeah, girl. I needed to talk to someone that wasn't my mama or my fafa. I needed to talk to someone who knew what I was going through and was intimately going to tell me the tea and help me process some of the bullshit I'm growing through. Because if you have an hour a week, you have time to give yourself that help. You deserve it. You've all been stretched out too thin, burnt out, burned under and turned all around. That's why you deserve to benefit from therapy. I know I have. 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Bring back my break. Ooh, I'm going to tell you who I think really sucks at interviewing a second. But first, Kahanaman trees. Slay. Slay, what a glow up. What a good, good, good glow. I mean, I'm barely remember her. Was she 10, 11? You mean remember or recognize because both are correct? Both. She went home first as well. She went season 11. Second after the SIS 2 shall not be named. Oh my gosh. She posted in drag recently or she posted some of them. Really? And was like, I miss drag? I don't know. Um, yeah, I got her as 10. Uh, let's see, I put her, she could surprise. I put her 8. I pegged her 8. I pegged her 6 because I think out of all the girls who have done like early out drag race, I feel like she left and immediately just like did drag for four years. Whereas I think other people go like, oh, I'm going to like be my celebrity or I'm going to try my YouTube thing or I'm going to do whatever. Like, she made like a music video with, with PEG. But then she just like was like, no, I'm going to be the Vegas girl. Yeah, she's got into the Vegas girl. So she's right. So you know, thing and she's got that budget. Her clothes are going to be nuts. They're going to be Vegas for sure. And even if she doesn't, if she probably also can afford anything she wants, but also if I was in Vegas, you know, you just like steal your friends shit. It's be like, you just go to your friends and go like, give me that right now. Yeah, that looks like a Derek outfit. Yeah, that is a Derek. The circus. Yeah. Yeah, the circus number. Yeah, I pay her six and all you can eat Chinese buffet. I beg your tooth that Coco Montries is dressing room at Vegas live with or without the craziest filter you've ever seen on Instagram. Oh, craziest filter covered in orange powder and I'll be like, look out. Look at orange. I am. That mom that I'm sorry, the Internet underrated gay Internet moment when Coco Montries is lip syncing to that Lana Del Rey song for herself and only herself. And then put her tip titty meat. Yeah. So I said not to one of my friends like daily almost. Yeah. Okay. I said eight that I pegger ate that a white owned Mexican restaurant. Done. Done. Googles. Yeah. Yeah. Next we have Oh fuck. Candice musical a friend, a friend of the mom world. Not mine. Oh, oh, give me her phone number. She has done everything in her, her power to like meatball booked her for a fat slut. Okay. Can you see her tossed in Texas? You're kidding paid for her. Tell your getting spoke to her maybe for five minutes. And also she wouldn't give me her phone number. So I couldn't text her to be like, are you in town? Do you need anything like nothing? I had to go down to the front desk at the hotel to be like, hello, has this person checked in like are they here? And they're like, yeah, they got here this morning. I was like, Oh, okay. That is fucking wild. We all know this character. I mean, it's a very funny. Her brand is delusion. She brings it to you every ball. She's a difficult drag goddess. She's just a difficult drag goddess. She's my number one. Like I, I truly believe, but I know that they'd want her back, but I in my mind, it would be for an all winners after she wins this. Mm hmm. Right, because they would bring her back to play like Cindy in the Brady Bunch television spectrum. Yeah, like they want to keep her in the family and they want to keep her close. I wanted to put her. Oh, you go. You go dips. Well, I beg her second. I think that I think I think the thing. Okay. Can we talk about? Wait, can we go back to her confessional? Is her lip going to look like that the whole time? Well, that's this is what I mean is like, I think rude loves her. I think she's so charming. But I think there's like something about her when you go like, she hasn't yet fully sort of settled. Oh, yes. Yes. And like she's not the Chad Michaels. She's not like where Alaska got to. Sure. After season five to like land like like, if you really look at the queens who have won all stars like, Shay Koolay is settled. She is Shay. Right. That's well, has the fillers. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like Trinity, Monet, all of these girls, they, they are it. But Candy is a list. Candy is in the Alyssa territory of like, delusional superstar. And that's why she might, you're right. She probably won't win. But also, candies always got tricks up her sleep. Like what we've already seen of her just from these two promo looks is like so outstanding compared to anything you will ever see her wear at a club. Yes. You know what I mean? She brings it. She's coming in and she brings it for the show. So I'm excited to see the show. And I think that's what's going to make her. That's going to get her the win. Oops. I love you. So I love your third idiot and I peg her first and I'm a fucker out of wet steel because that's where she looks like she buys most of her club and gig shoes. I peg her third and it's going to be in the outdoor pen at a bulldog rescue. Interesting. I picked her. I peg her fifth. I don't think she'll make the top four. What? Because, okay, here's why. Again, I don't know what the rules are. But in a world where they send each other home, if she in a world where they send each other home, I could see her getting nicked just before that top four. Like I could see her misbehaving saying the wrong thing to the wrong queen and not apologizing and someone feeling okay sending her home. Again, I don't know the format. Like we know she's going to misbehave and you know as the only runner up in this gig, she thinks she's somebody. I feel like I think that might hurt her. Like just already like coming into the shoe being like fuck you girls, I've made it longer than most of y'all. I don't think anything can hurt her. Have you seen her? So brick house. She's a brick house. Then I will peg her in a dark room where we get kicked out because she's too loud for the dark room. Candy musical. Next. Darian Lake. I didn't. Did you come up with a second? Oh, oh, Zembic. I couldn't come up with a body fix or something. I couldn't come up with the thing. Talk to Farts. Talk to Farts. She looks amazing. She's another one. She's like caution Davis who's been working consistently since the show. She hasn't stopped. And I think people forget that she made top four. Yeah, she's amazing before they did top fours. She's top four and I think she's one of the most underrated queens in the show's history in terms of she's smart. She's funny. She was better than some of the others that made the top three that year. Well, they always need a pretty girl. They always need a pretty girl. A B C D. She's the D and I love her. I. Okay. Girl, Baderin. Ah. Baderin all. I thought her snatch game was actually pretty fucking funny. It was good. It was good. Um, when she said like, I'm hotter than two squirrels happening in a sock. I was like, that's a, that's a fucking good line. Yeah, totally. I mean, her body is so snatched. Like I want, I wish I could get my body that shape. Hmm. We love that. You just need to get insane padding then, huh? Hmm. I think it's a good pad. You know, I, okay. So I think because Darian is such a pro, she's going to go really far, but I think there's going to be something that happens where it's like just getting back on all stars is enough for her where she isn't actually gunning for the crown. She's just there to have a good time. Yeah. I think you'll like, yeah. She waited so long that she's like just getting here is enough. Whereas like someone like Nisha is going to be like laser focus of the crown and go home early or like cost is going to be like a try hard like like really focus on. And like Darian's going to be like who's having, who's having a good time. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Let's all go taking a zem big shot. So I peg her fifth because I think her talent's going to take her far. I put her fifth too. And I said I was going to peg her in a swan shaped paddle boat. Oh, I'm going to peg her down at the body shop that Sam Smith sings about. And I said six at the Houston airport anytime fitness. It's right there. So there's no one in the airport. It's right there. There's no excuse. You can always get a workout. There's always time for our workout. Next we have, I mean, Monteca Bebert Lee bills. Oh my God. Now she's the girl that's been so good. Oh, she looks so good. I mean, she looks that good on season five. Let's be honest. I know. And the girls are madder than two. She hasn't aged a moment. No, she looks incredibly believable. Is her entrance outfit a reference to troop Beverly Hills? Because she's Monica Beverly Hills. Seems to be good. Ooh, that is so genius. Why did I not think about that? No, I could be. I think so. But, okay. I think so. When they show the season five girls out of drag. That was a different time for face shapes. It was a different time for face. For just like, you just not know what was possible to do to a human face was different than. Uh huh. And I remember at that time, like the girls who did have their faces pumped were like, oh, they look unusual. Like Chad Michaels. Oh, she looks unusual. I'm saying I'm a different level of work at this point. I'm outing myself as problematic. I looked at Chad Michaels and thought, ah, I'm acting. That's what I thought when I saw her face. But now everyone's face looks crazy. Uh huh. So Monica Beverly Hills, I worry for her and I'm pegging her around 11. Same. Uh, the Peppridge Farm. Cookie Factory. I put her nine. Yeah. And I was going to fuck her at so I peg her at so how. Now she's a member. That's for damn sure. Yeah. That's the thing I can get the free drinks. I peg her 11th at the now closed and no longer spin nightclub in Chicago in Boys Town, which is where her first saw Monica perform. I feel like she is also in that same boat of like just getting back on the show is achievement enough because like it's the boost she needs. But to me, she's always been like a pretty model and never like a powerhouse performer. Right. Can I ask do you prefer it more when a girl on the show, you can actively tell that they are like, I'm just happy to be here or do you prefer to see like the more cut throat. Like I'm here to win. I like delusion. I like well, that's a little cut throat. I like cut throat then to answer your question. Cut throat, cut throat, cut throat. I like mean, even if they come back and they're here to start a bonfire and be dumb and be weird and they think they somebody I'm kind of more here for that. Yeah, I agree. Like all starts fine. It makes for better TV, but then without characters that are just like, you know, kind of there and happy to be there than those people look as insane. Like Lucy Liduka. That part. Well, that's what I'm saying. So all starts five had like three girls who sent themselves home, bummer. And then India Farah, as much of a liar as she is, she gave us something good. Oh, she gave us some good TV. Wow. I mean, just verified liar now. Right. Oh, yeah. Her and, oh, I can't remember her name. You were driver next car next call. Let's get, let's get the next call. Oh, no. Hey, shape shifters. It's James Mansfield. What do we think about? Okay. I have her second because they love her. They had her in all the wigs for the Brady bunch. They put her in the queen who stole Christmas. They let her do some red carpet stuff like they're upset with her and her glow up and her commitment to the brand. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. She's the ultimate underdog story. And I think they're like, they're eager to dispel the myth that going home first means something negative. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So I think she's going all the way to the top four. Yeah, I have her second place and I would pay her at one of those factories in China where they make the plastic hair. Oh. Specifically the RuPaul party city. I'm going to say fourth, whatever that means. I think she's in the top four. I think she's in top four. I think she's fourth pegging her in a bathroom at Howlin Rays because I got too spicy and I had to blow out. Oh my God. I say dump out, but I'll switch it to blow out. After you blow out the wig, you got to blow out your ass. She's all about the wigs. I pick her second as well at the Mars Cheese Castle in Wisconsin. Oh, fun. Cheat. But it is fun to see her like actually like to quote Michelle, no, you talk like this. This is how you talk like she actually is talking like a human after we told her in season nine, you don't sound like a human. Right. Oh, I guess I didn't notice that. Yeah. I think she was, you know, shy and young, which she was. Yeah. Some people. She's very likable and I'm excited. Okay. She's the one in the group. Really. Clad. Clad. New York. New York. New York. Clad. We have everything. Legend. Um, um, um, um, um, the theater. And please welcome to the stage, the theater. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. I will say this is the queen I was talking shit about. Look, she looks unbelievable. I don't think she gives a very good interview. Um, I saw her in an interview and I thought she really didn't didn't have maybe the self awareness I was hoping she might have gotten after the first time of being on the show. But that's just my opinion. Like, she had her on sloppy seconds and she is like so lovable, so great, so open. It was really like I had always been, you know, like aware of her beauty and her talent, but I felt like I didn't get to know her on TV. So having her on the pod was like really, really cool. So I'm definitely an Alexis fan. Love. And like just to show up looking back good after your season. She looks unbelievable. Like I think she won the mug award down. Oh, yeah. She, I didn't realize how good at painting she was. Oh, yeah. Like she is when we had her on the podcast, I was like, that's gorgeous, which is why I have her winning. Really? Beat her. Beat her. She is the actress doll. She is the actress doll. She'll do good at Snatch Game if they do it. Um, they have to. They have to. Everyone wants to see it. I think I'll pick her seventh. I think her seventh. I just don't know. I don't know what's going to happen with her. I think she'll do well, but I think some, I think she'll say the wrong thing. And someone like candy or Jimbo will be like, you're dead to me. Again, I don't know if that's the format. Um, but that's my feeling and I'll peg her in a pile of resumes. She's forcing me to read. I also am pecking. It's just her resumes from like, yeah, it's just her resumes. And she's like, and this is what I looked like 10 years ago. Yeah. Five years ago. I also am going to peg her seventh, not because I think she just. You're both so rude. Not because I think she deserves it, but I think through some wild mishap of something, the same thing, it's just like, she's going to end up going home that at that point. Mm hmm. I just do that. And to me, I will peg her while we're watching a production of Chicago with someone trying to do the, uh, matron mama Morton role justice. Yes. Because as we found out when Alexis was on our podcast, she has seen Chicago upwards of seven times on Broadway. Amazing. She had her girl. She's a theater girl. And if you say season nine had an amazing top four, she'll remind you that season nine had an amazing top five. She will. And she will. Yeah, she did. She sure did in an interview with Joey Nulfi. Um, it was very funny. Oh, yeah. I walked all of those. Did you feel like that was complimenting her? No. It sure felt like it. Oh, they had to. There's no way they were allowed. They were asked to do that. They had to do that. Um, but it felt like joy with complimenting her. She was like, uh, like barking at her the way the dog behind a fence does. Um, so look, she's, she's amazing. And what was I going to say? She's sickening. She looks good. And I'm excited for her to stir some shit up. I'm glad she's not going to behave. Okay. Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? We're going to find out who the fuck said that. But first silence my queens. I feel like taking a break. Bring back my break, bitches. We're back. It feels like there's a lot of things that happened while they filmed this season. Cause I didn't know that there was, I don't know, I'm keeping out of it. Much like the wicked movie. I'm trying not to see her hear anything. But it's all spoilers. I hate the wicked spoilers. Don't show me anything. So rude. Okay. Jessica. While Jessica, I forgot. Oh, she is my thing. I love her. I love her. She's my winner. I actually would like to move everyone down one. Yeah. Yeah. She is my winner. She's my winner. Oh no. She's my winner. I love her so much. I love her so so much. She the first time I ever worked with her, I actually just was talking to someone who was like, I saw her perform for a room of four people. Cause no one showed up that night. And she went fully 110% all out for those four people. Like, that's the level of commitment that you're going to get from Miss Jessica Wilde. I'm obsessed with her. Me too. She is pure of heart. If there were a gay sword in the stone, only she could pull it because she is pure and unjaded. I fucking love her. And one of the nicest drag queens, like truly one of the nicest people. So, and I love, it's not, I don't know what it is, but she's like, it's not super confident. She just like, her ideas are wild and she just does them. Yeah. She like trusts herself as an artist. She accepts that she's like a fun weirdo, but she also like knows her worth in a really of my amazing way. I love her. Yeah. You can't not love. And if anyone sends her home, what a monster. I'll fuck her behind the CVS across the street from the offbeat bar in Highland Park after the exposure to the drag. Ooh, yes. Monday night. It's a Rite Aid, but yes. It was a Rite Aid? Okay. Yes. I thought you got such a rocks lodged in my knee. Oh my God. What the fuck? You got rocks in your knee? Yeah. I had to like pull them out with tweezers. It was so funny. Oh my God. So this. That's where I'd pegger. Okay. And I'll pegger on a pile of hot Luna bars. How about you, dibs? I, I'm like, I'm spiraling here because I feel like I forgot. You forgot why. Like, I can hear him clicking wildly out of the list. Yeah. You got, you're like da Vinci coding over there. You're like subtracting and moving the one. It feels very fucked up, but I'm just going to say it. And I think I can only justify it with the fact of how she got done dirty earlier on in her drag race experience. I am going to unfortunately peg her eighth. Okay. Ooh. It's also kind of because I couldn't figure out how to make the adjustments on my list. So I'm going to peg her eighth, but I think it's going to be a productions fault. Ooh. And I will. I feel like he knows something. And it's like just giving us all the feel. I know. It doesn't feel like it. I know. I know you're making it up, but it feels real. And I feel like people are going to hear this and run with it. It's possible. I will, I will peg her. I'm eighth and I'll peg her at a gap kids, but after hours. Whoa. Okay. Well, we're doing inventory in the back, you know. Right, right, right, right. I love that. Why don't you take a look at my skew number? I love her. Next we have Jimbo. Okay. Okay. Jimbo. Now move everyone back down again. I know, right? She has the biggest target on her back. Is she going to make it to the top four or not? That's the question, right? I know she's on y'all's top four. Maybe. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? Yeah, she's in my top four. I think she's going to win. I truly like, yeah, I feel she's winning this. Mom. Roo fucking loves her. Are you kidding? She gets to break any rules she wants. She's on the American. She's on a flagship season. Yeah. This has never been done before. Has it? Never. No, no, no, definitely not. Just. She's winning. She's winning. They brought her here to win. Yeah, I would really like her to win. I would really like her to win. Oh, I don't want her to win. I just think she's going to win. Why don't you want her to win? Yeah, why don't you want her to win? She's making fun of women. Yeah, is it because you're happy that she's making fun of women's bodies and you hate women? No, I don't want her to win because of... So you don't acknowledge your inherent misogyny as a man? Favouritism. I feel like she, they let a lot of things slide with her. And I feel like she's already a winner and some of these other girls could do better with a title. Tea? Tea? Because she could have... Because she's done a little bit more cooking. I feel like she's literally just been on TV every other year now. Oh my God. Yeah, but I don't think she likes to cook. I don't think she's out there doing gigs at the bar. She wants to be on television. Interesting. Yeah, she does the Murray and Peter moments. Just that. Right. But yeah. If she could easily win, I would be fucking happy if she won. In my list, for some reason, I pegged her on the third. I don't know why. I hope I'm fully wrong. And I pegged her in a busy Peloton class. I'm digging her on the poop deck of a cruise ship. Ooh. And she's wearing the full body. So she's known for popping off. Do you think she's going to pop off? Or she's going to be nice? Is this her redemption nice season? No, I think she's going to be on TV so many times that she's going to play so many games. It doesn't matter. Yeah, I think she's going to fuck with them. I think she likes to mess with people. Yeah. And she's good at it and she knows how to do it now. I'm going to peg her with Captain Sandy from Below Deck. Oh. On the new Bravo series, Below Deck after hours. You know what I'm talking about? Hot. Was she the one who was on traders? No, that was Kate. Kate was on traders. Watch traders. It's wild. Oh, yeah. She was really good, though. Kate was so crazy. She was so bad, though, too. Yeah. Awful. She like let the bad stuff happen. She enabled the murderers because she was so confusing. Oh, wait. I just realized I heard some tea about Jim. Well, I'm going to make some. What? She said his balls are really, really hairy. Oh, good for Jim. Oh. Really, really hairy. How interesting. Yeah. Oh, I fucked my list up. You guys? I know. Fair right. Oh, it's just a lot of tea. I know. Now, how disappointed are we all that she has not once referenced that fucking bag look yet? I know. Well, OK, OK. I think her entrance line was I have this in the bag. Yes. So it was a reference me. It was kind of visually. I agree. I agree. An updated version of that look unless they're saving it for a challenge, which is like, do your favorite look again. And she does. I said the same thing. I said on a previous week, if she should have come in in a big paper bag saying, I'm bag. I mean, there it is. It's that easy. I'm not supposed to be writing model. I don't know. Oh, no. WGA Strong. Solidarity. Fuck the corporations. I think Miss Lalaari is going to win the lottery and she's going to do very well for herself. And I think it is between her or Heidi to win this fame game crown. Interesting. Yeah. The fame game kind of that you're talking about that no one knows and has heard about the secret. They literally say it in the promo. They said in the promo. I was watching it. I was watching in my car as I was driving 80 down the highway. So it was a little bit. But again, like what does that mean? What does that mean? What does the fame game? I asked my voice. I was. Oh, what does it mean? What does it mean? Um, but yeah, what does it mean? Does it? Is it like the she already done had hers award where someone wins 50k and they're like, here you go, diva, or is it a way to win? Maybe it's a way to win. Maybe you have to win the fame game and get the highest score from the judges or something. So there is still only one winner. Mm hmm. I don't know. It's confusing and I don't like it. Let's just make these girls fight fist fight. Yeah. That would be fun if it was a straight up just like wrestling match and whoever gets pushed out or like sumo wrestling, whoever gets pushed out of the ring is dead. I have La La Ria seven. I have her up there too. I have her ninth, but I want to be wrong. I would love to be proven wrong. I want the world for her, but I just don't think it's time yet. I have her at ninth as well and I'm pegging her at the Dollar Tree because we'll be buying more bags. I'm pegging her at the seven 11 after we buy a bunch of la la tick lottery tickets. La la Ria dee dee dee tickets. Uh, pegging her ninth at the way star Royco studios. And if you get that reference, you're really your fucking loser. I don't get that reference. There you go. There you go. Better about myself now. That's it. That's the divas. Any final thoughts. The end of the day. Darien looks so good. I mean, I don't know. This is going to be a wild season again. It's like, how are we supposed to know just based on these looks and what they're saying. Yeah. I mean, again, I try to decode those interviews. The best I could. I saw those entertainment weekly interviews and I had a hard time decoding them, but you know, I have to say, you make a good point, Dipper. It did it. It sounded like people had details of what happened in the season. So maybe no one goes home. I don't know if they go home or not. Okay. She's getting, she's getting more suspicious, not less suspicious. My thing is based on the way that they, based on the way that they, um, A Kohana Montrese costume is just more of like a rigging of strings and feathers. Yeah. It's the Georgia collection. Can I tell you? I DJ'd the ad, the, sorry, the promo for season 11 where they were like in the big, like there was like the oversized hairspray can and Kahanah was swinging on a oversized pearl necklace. Do you remember this one? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Brooklyn, Evie, like, like a keria had like a big, uh, makeup mirror. Maybe someone had like an oversized needle and thread. Mm hmm. I watched, I DJ'd on set like during the shoot and I watched Kahanah get rigged up and like literally swing through the air on this oversized necklace. It was amazing. Damn. Did they even use it in the promo? Yeah. Okay. Good. My favorite thing about Kahanah is when she told me when she, some interview she had, she was like, when I like need to get excited before a show, I like pull my bumper up to the other dancers in the RuPaul's Drag Race show, um, to get me more stage ready. And I said, bitch, you better fucking work. She rubs her butt on their crotches. Yeah. She's like, just to get me in the mood to get on stage. And I was like, work. That sounds like a nice, not the mood I'm trying to get into to get on stage. Right. 100% right. Whatever works for whoever, you know, right, right. Whatever works for whoever, you know, the only reason, okay, to get back to the thing, I'm not trying to be cagey, but to get back to the thing. I saw Brooklyn at the last night. Sorry. Ooh. When they advertise the fame game, it just makes it think like they can't make that decision until the end. So very much like all stars three, there was like the panel where Ben De LaCrem wore that amazing red hat. Oh my God. And all the queens came back. It's my assumption that no one actually goes home, even if they are eliminated. Interesting. There's like a during and there's like a fame game scenario. I love that. I mean, again, that would be fair to have an actual jury that you know about. Yes. Would make the game more fair, not a surprise jury, which made L stars three so unfair. And it might do that thing that Monet always wanted, which gives it that survivor play, that big brother play where it's like, oh, you're also trying to like, I don't know, be political with every move and every word that you say. Right. Make your choices look good, not vicious. Yeah. But still making bad choices. Yeah. I'm not going to compromise Christianity. I'll tell you that right now. I used to perform that song, but then I would cut out the part where Michelle had to sing. Says Christianity. Yeah. It's crazy. It would be blank. And if the audience tried to sing, I'd be like, shut up. No, shut the fuck up. We didn't get to talk about this, but I just want to say y'all, we had a really nice time at that escape room and little did I know Nicole was having an asthma attack the whole time. Did we have a really nice time? I kind of did. You don't miss play us. Oh, we got played. We we should go delete our Yelp reviews and write new ones. We took me so long to log into Yelp by the time I logged in, I said, I'm not going to even write one. I skipped that. I don't know if you recall, I stayed twisting the lock on the safe while everyone did the Yelp review. I was like, everyone, do a Yelp review. I'm just going to sit here and. Right. And use that time. We really ate that up. We ate that. We ate that. We can do another one. I offered a couple of other options, but Nicole poo pooed them like I said laser tag. She said, no, I would love that. Yeah, but we're all at the point where just one fall it could be over for us. Well, it can be walking laser tag. Speaking of oh, I ate that, that would have been a good workroom entrance line. Oh, she really ate that. Um, cause eight cause it starts eight. What do you think? I shouldn't be writing. Well, I think what it is is like Alexis doesn't take kind of food and fat jokes. No, Darian. Don't joke about that. Darian lost weight. Uh huh. You know, so I don't know that there's like a I'm a big girl now sort of moment. That's funny. I think it's a little more delicate. Um, yeah. What a shame. What a shame. Let's get a in a. Let's get a in a. I want to see these girls read each other. Oh, Darian will win. Yeah, she's going to win. I'll predict. So that's it. Where can we hear you horrors and where can we support you and what tours you got going on and what shit's happening? Where do we find you? Tell the children meatball. You can follow us at sloppy pod on Instagram or our individual Instagrams at Big DipperGelly and Spiciest Meatball. You can find me at precinct every third Friday of the month doing fat slaaaaaaat. Whoo! Um, that show in town. And that's usually the same night as bad drag race. I know. I'm going to change that next time. We can just go see that and they can see this. I'm going to make, I can change bad drag race. So I think next time we do it, we're going to make it like fourth, fourth week or whatever. Whatever you need to do. No, but it would just be fun and cute. Because literally my audience is kind of the same as yours. Yeah, I know. There's so many people that like me. Sorry, I'm not making it this month. I was like, that's fine. Oh, that's very nice. I would say more so people like come to my show and then they bolt over to fat slaaaaat. Because we're coming for the same like dumb goofy comedy drag vibe, which I love. This month we have a good one. I know. And I can never book the girls that do bad drag race. Well townway, who's coming this month? Can you say? Did you already say? We have kimchi. Ooh. And that's who all I can say. We might have another really big dance. Okay. But we have finalized it. I'll be there. So I don't got bad drag this month. Okay, cute. And if you're in Milwaukee, I'm doing pride on June 3rd. Big Milwaukee pride concert on June 3rd. If you're in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, June 3rd and 2nd and 3rd, I will be at Taboo. Ooh. Oh. Oh, San Francisco, August 4th. Fat slut at Oasis. Work. What's that? Work. Um, live, go follow them. All that links, all the links will be below. So click below you bitches and follow us at a drag or podcast on Instagram. Leave us a five star review on the Apple podcast. Like this one, Shae Dog 19 says, Mono Mondays forever. That's cute. Mono makes Monday so much better. I look forward to drag her on Mondays to get my week right. Mono, you are a joy of light in this world. Love your takes on drag and life in general. Oh, you're honest. Talk about body growing up and the immigrant experience helps us all. That's nice. Thank you, Mono, for it all love. That's nice. How much do you have to pay them to send you that? Cause all week is 99 bucks. That's a good fact. Yeah. I just get like Kermit's really trying to do something. Yeah. Or like her face is bad. Yeah. Once I, uh, once I started saying like, I, if you hate me, I honor that the people, people got less enjoyment out of sending me hate. Do you know what I'm saying? The second you're like, Oh, I honor your opinion. If you hate me, that's very valid. Well, yeah, mine. They don't like that. I said, I was like quit trying to like weaponize our fatness. Like that's how we got here, boo. Yeah. He didn't eat it. He didn't. He didn't take out. Oh my God. That's so good. Chica to China, the Chinese chicken. Okay, bitches. Thank you all so much for coming and keeping this tradition alive and well. Till next time. Oh, will you hit us with some music? Oh, let the music play and cue me ball. Oh, I don't know it. I don't know it. I don't know it. 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