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I am so, I'm Anno Gapian
I'm so delighted to be joined by the one and only
Drag Race alum
Drag Race Vegas Diva
Season 14 Snatch Game
Winner Miss Deja Sky
Oh my god, it's me
It's you, Deja
What the hell are you doing in here on this day
Girl, we are here to talk some mess
We are here to talk about everything except for Drag Race
And I'm here for it
Living! Okay, I do want to talk to you about Drag Race Vegas
Because I just saw you in the show
Yeah!
Holy shit, that was fun
Did you love it?
I loved it! I had such...
Okay, I've seen the show twice
That show was even better than the first time I saw it
Oh!
Was it because of my presence?
I have to admit it was
You were just a stacked-ass cast
Like you, Latrice hosting, unbelievable
Amazing
She's so good at bullshitting
And then being like, okay, we're getting back to the show
Yeah, exactly, you know, that's the thing about being a host
It's obviously there's so many variables
Like they have an air piece, they have to be
Very like weary of everything around them
But if you could just go off the cuff and be like, oh
And then segue into the next thing
That's how you know you're a good host
You gotta be listening, right?
Yes, she's listening
She's fucking around with people
She's roasting people, but not in the way that she's so magical
I mean, it was you, Coco's amazing
Doing her Janet number
I love Panjaina, holy shit
I love Panjaina
I love Panjaina
Amazing, and then it was you
And then it was Jada and Derek
Jada Sophia is my favorite part of that cast
Because she is just like in real life
She is doing her own thing
Kookie
Kookie, when she comes out with the shake weight
And she's just, what?
It's so funny
And then to me, my favorite part of the entire show
Is there another thing when she turns around
She's like, oh, my tits are on backwards
That to me was everything
She was having way too much fun
At the moment, we're like
The mirror song
That like really touching mirror song
She was having too much fun on stage
And like in a distracting way
I was like Jada, someone's spilling their heart over there
Like stop doing
Mirror prop
And she's over here brushing no hair
Yeah
Or she was like writing messages in the fake mirror
And I was like, oh my god
She's having fun
She doesn't care about that or whatever else
And then
She's the tourist sister
So we get along like
She's so funny
She for the meet and greet
She brought a slide whistle
Does she do that every night?
No, so she wanted to bring it out
So the lip sync thing
So whatever it works
She was like I'm gonna go like
She didn't bring it out
But it's totally fine
She's just, she's so funny
But me and Jada literally
We cheeky because we have super dead jokes
Like dumb dead jokes
And we're pretty much the only ones laughing at our own jokes
But honestly, that's fine
That is the key to life
Laughing at your own jokes
Yeah, there's no one else I'm going to
Yes, you have to be your own biggest fan
I mean, if you're not
It sounds like one of really like
If you're not your own fan
How do you expect some stranger to be your fan
Sure, yeah, I mean
There's a lot of girls who really are always looking for
What's the next next thing
And you're going to put yourself
No one else is going to do that
Because I'm a starboard, I don't know about y'all
But I'm very stubborn
And so until I see it
With my own eyes
Then I'll adjust
You know, that's obviously
What's seeing yourself on TV
Or my YouTube channel or on stage
I'm the type of person where I'll watch my performance is back
Or my hosting back
Because drag is your personal thing
It's your art form
So anyone telling you
Otherwise, it's very
To me, I go into like
Alert like
I go into like Kill Bill Fireburn
Yeah
Yeah
That moment
Okay, I love that
I love that you're perfecting your thing
And you're kind of growing your
Everything you do right now
Like you're doing YouTube
You're doing makeup
Talk to me more
Yeah, so I mean, everyone says it
Like I'm really inspired by people like Will
People like Bob
That really took their online presence
To the M-degree off drag race
Because they always say
It's what you do after is how you achieve longevity
It's how you achieve
That everlasting thing
It's not just a 15-minute
Because there's always
Like you have to kind of
There's more than that
It's in to me what was insane was
I think after
I think after Willow was crowned
There was like three or four more winners
Within like two months
And I was like yeah
So you like like
It's pretty crazy and like
And drag race live they say losing is a new winning
And it's kind of too because winning doesn't mean
Right
As much as it meant
Yes
Then winning now is just a cash prize
Yes, and you know you obviously get
Opportunity but again it's always
Whatever you make out of it
That's like going on like I was like
It's fine if I don't win at least I'm here
At least I'm getting my self
Shown to the world and then I'll make
A path for myself
And I always thought that like I had good
makeup of being on drag race and seeing the
Reception from everyone
I was like oh you have great makeup like let's take it into
That like direction
And then there's nothing more than people
Love than seeing too
Alarm interact
That's their favorite thing in the world
Why yeah hot yeah and trick
Steve Bob and what like they love
People like interacting
So then when I did Deaths
Advid Asia and it's taking off so little bit
Surely I'm like okay
We we have something here
Yeah, you have a couple things
Like do you cover with Desha analysis
There's like deja views
Like so yeah
But I love that I love that you're like
Experimenting with all of it you want to keep it all
Like all the balls up in the air and see what
I do
Yeah, I do I think that it's very easy to
Go into a niche which is totally fine
But I think in order to have a bigger audience
The niche just can't technically be just right
I mean that totally can sorry anything
But I think that I'm trying to
Cancel her
I'm on X I'm on X.com canceling you
I hate X okay keep going
It's so dumb
Reds was a bus too
I know yeah like I'm her person
Where I don't have ADHD
But I feel like I do sometimes
I just get bored
So to me it's like
Like when I do a Desha analysis
Of an entire season that doesn't bore me
Because it's like new content right
Every week something new
With the Desha but it's a new person
But if I I just don't want to be that person
That just is only doing this or only doing that
It's it's getting me views
It's getting me you know notoriety
But I want it but I also want to do things
That I really really really really really really
Really love to do you know yeah to me
I I rarely painted in
Really painted anyone but I was like you know what
People were asking for it and I really enjoy it
So I was like okay let me go there
And then let me kind of take this
Moment to do that
But I was a super fan of drag race before I was on drag race
So inevitably
It's kind of going to be drag race related
And some
Interaction
But I have so many questions
One I want you're talking about face
And like obviously like everyone has different styles
Like what do you think your philosophy is to face
To to make up you know what I mean
Like is it yeah talk to me
Yeah talk to me
Dramatic is is what I go for colorful and dramatic I mean that's that's my presence
That's my visual aesthetic that's my personality
I just feel like being colorful and dramatic
Is the way to go like I love a really bold eyes
Something that someone is going to be like oh my god
I love you know and that could be a wig choice that could be an outfit
That could be true that could be anything
You know and I really I just have person
Where my personality comes through
With what I'm wearing or my makeup skills or my hair and stuff like that
Like I I will dabble in subtlety
But it's still have predation twists
And and again I am not that person that really listens to whatever people do
So what I just when I chose to not do brows
And then I do brows here and there
People automatically go into like
Oh did someone and I'm like no I just wanted to put on brows one day
Like yeah
I wanted to put on brow like there's nothing wrong with that
You know but I think that now
Because I have such a distinct face
That maybe when I go off the beaten path
A lot of people go like oh where's that
You know right
But again I get bored
So I always try to change something up in my face
I've learned to not
I've learned to not be afraid of the face shape
Because
I don't really contour and carve anymore
I feel like the bold eye
The bold eye and the big lashes
Mama that's what it is
But my face is very blended
Like I try to go for that blended kind of looks
Just because I'm not afraid of it
I fucking get it
I'm fine with having a fat face and a fat body
I'm fine with that
Everyone's putting fat back into their faces
Like hello
Like George Clooney
George we saw the work
Don't pretend like you didn't get work
It's good work
It's good work
What's his name?
I don't like him anymore
I don't like him
What's the one from Jurassic World?
Chris
Oh Pratt
He got work done Mama
Really?
Really?
Oh I gotta look him up
He's a bad man
He's terrible
He's a terrible
Get out of here
Instead he basically
And like it's funny to me
When people don't see like
What's going on there's like oh they just happen to divorce
And then he got remarried a year later
That doesn't happen Mama
He got popular
And became a sex symbol
And then he was like oh I need to try this
Out honey
Let me put on
That's fucked up
And see that's why gay men are better
Honey can I go fuck this stranger
I love you and I want to be in a relationship with you
Can I go fuck this stranger
And then the queer partner is like yeah you can go fuck a stranger
Just come back after
Sure absolutely
That's the thing is gay people invented open relationships
Because we naturally just are horrors
Yeah we are horrors
But it turns out
Penises are fun
And when you're penis
When your penis touches something else it feels good too
Really good
Now I use to not really like touch it
I have so much talk about I do want to talk about like
Let's talk about Drag Race stuff
Let's talk about the stupidity of it
Let's talk about the stupidity of like what fans say about season 14
Like how are you weathered like the way stupid Drag Race fans are like
Season 14
What do you do with that
That
Okay so I remember during our season
Or during our season was airing
We got a lot of flat for you know
Oh it's a long season blah blah
Even though we were the normal
You didn't write the season
I know but I do remember I do recall
I think that's not going to die or someone
And I said I think that in a couple of years
Our season will be looked at fondly
Like our season will be like oh that's a comfort season
They're that and that happened quicker than I thought
It's literally this year after season 15
Air season 15 was great
But after season 15 air
Then the really truly love was coming up
Yeah
A season 14 like this
And that and I love this and I love that
So I think for me
I love that people are finally
Giving the love to season 14
I mean I'm not saying you agree
But I'm just saying that
I'm glad that people are opening their eyes to seeing what a loving season
Obviously people automatically go to
You know there wasn't that much drama and there wasn't this and blah blah blah
You can have a season with just
You know a friendship season and have
People that you like and care about
Obviously there was drama like every season had drama
But maybe it wasn't to your aunt's degree
And people irritate the
Can I cast
Oh my god
If you don't cast I'll kick you off
People irritate the fuck out of me
Because the same people that say
Where's the drama?
Are the same people
Someone that's causing drama death
Yeah
Same people
There was a contestant
Actually two contestants on season 15
That people were talking so much crap about
Then the season was over
Then they wanted to crazy defend them
I'm like you can't have it both ways
You can't
Either be a shittles fan
Have your favorites and move the fuck on
But you cannot be an evil cunt
And then because everyone else was liking them
Being like oh my god
Dragaries can't be your only personality
That's called a cult
Period
Dragaries can not be your only personality
You have to have a mind
And like to me I was actually talking about the drag queen
About this
I heard that
I said that
With dragaries fans
I feel like they have a hive mindset
Which is
Whatever my favorite things that's what I think
Out of the norm and you can
Like other people I think for me my main issue
From the fan base was the fact that they just overlooked me
Because there was another
Cornbread
She was the favorite
She was the fan favorite
She was the bigger personality
But then they overlooked me
Because on paper
We're the same person even though we're nothing alike
She has her sense of humor
I asked my sense of humor
I can't compute
I mean they'll put
Seven white twinkie drag queens in a row
And love them all
Oh my god let the church say
But they can't like
Let two plus sized people of color have their moments
And that to me was the most frustrating part
But people are slowly coming around
And you know it's easier said than done
But you kind of just
What you're saying is so true
I'm sorry it's just so true
And it's just racism
If any drag race fan is listening
I want you to continue to challenge the way you allow white queens
And drag performers to be
Ideosing, critic, and specific
And part of different communities
But queens of color
Like you have to be the queen of color
You have to be that
It's been happening for years
Look at Naomi Campbell
She was the token black queen
There was a room for no one else
That is the most infuriating part
So we had Bostodaya, Camden, Willow, Jasmine
You gave love, gave love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love
And don't compare them ever
But then you see someone like me in cornbread
Who are plus sized and people of color that are humorous
And then it's like well I only like one of them
It's like
Right girl
Right you can like an entire cat
It's tokenism
No I know
But it's just so interesting
Yeah it's like that you have a sense of humor
That is like kind of cerebral
And you've been said like that's a fun thing
Even like dad, jokie, whatever you
Whatever like I don't you know
You have so many kinds of senses of humor
But like that can't be appreciated
Because they just want you to be ex
Sure yeah
And the thing is
No she couldn't have one on her
She couldn't have one songs on her own
Everyone else had to be bad
Like you can't let a bitch have a moment
You can't let me breathe
It's always
It's always but
She did this
But love love love
But it's like no bitch just let me have my moment
So I mean it's right
Again it's getting better but during the season
It was a
It was hard
And I didn't even have it horribly bad
It was just more or less a misconception type of thing
You bring up yeah it's so goddamn true
And in just like two more years
People would be like oh that was iconic
Because the season gave us so many surprises
And I think sometimes these fans
They don't like surprises
And then in retrospect like oh that was kind of iconic
That drag race was trying weird shit out
Like literally
I was born at a young age
It's still trending I see it all the time on TikTok
It's everywhere
Did you come up with that line?
Maddie came up with I was born at a young age
That is really fun
Yeah
But none of that matters
Like none of that matter
You'll say stuff like
Oh well she just she won't smash game by saying the same thing over and over
So there's so many other people that won't smash game
What are you talking about?
If it's not broke don't fix it
It's just one of those things
I mean again I continue to tell myself
It could be so much worse
I am literally part of a management that loves me
I've been able to tour the world
I've been able to live comfortably
So I just continue to tell myself
It could be worse
But you know hoping
That's why I wanted the social media presence
Is to
For people to forgive me
And the light that I know myself of
I'm not just a up person
I'm not a down person
I'm chill and I have you know ebbs and slows
So I wanted people to see me
And be edit that I wanted
Not saying drag race didn't it's just
People will look at an edit on drag race
And know that and feel like that's your only personality
But that's supposed to be weird
About being a queen in the spotlight
Is you have to put yourself out there
Continually continually continually
And whether people love you or hate you
You kind of have to throw both of that
But all of it away
Because you just keep honoring you
Yeah and there's people that will
I know plenty of queens that will just
Speed into that character
Because that's what people love
But for me I don't want to be remembered
As someone who gave into
What society wanted
I want it to be remembered
As someone who was one is a great drag queen
But someone who paved the way for herself
As opposed to
You know what I'm just relying on this
And I'm just relying on that
It's like that's like a dense prevail
You kind of want to pave your way
And you kind of like I want the world to see the real me
And I want them to think
I'm me
Yeah
So fucking true
So fucking true
Okay we have more questions for you
But first we got to take a break
So
Okay
Silent stage just guy
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We are back here with Dacia getting stupid
Talking about it all
Dacia, why are you funny?
When did you get funny?
Have you been funny?
I was like to ask funny people
When were you as a kid or adolescent
When we were like, damn, I might be funny
You know
They say this all the time
Few work out from a dark place
I didn't have the most amazing childhood
So I think that humor was that
Escapism
And I was always like
But towards like middle
Like a middle school
Kind of fifth grade middle school high school
That's when I turned into kind of that like class clown
And it was because I was going through a lot of
Home stuff
That wasn't the best
So then I used school
As the outlet to kind of
I don't know like I guess hearing people laugh
I've always loved the
Sound of laughter
And the sound of
Oh, I got someone so I think that's where it came from
Did you imagine hating the sound of laughter?
Could you imagine?
Just being like, oh my god
Shut up!
I can't imagine that
Yeah, I 100% get that
And you know, you get that positive feedback
Especially when sometimes you're getting
Not positive feedback in other areas
Because our world is
I mean pick a word racist
You know, sides phobic, pick a word
Girl, everything in the world
I will say
Never in my last time
Thought I would ever see a pandemic
I never thought I would see a
Suck in celebrity in the White House
I never thought I would see
The George Floyd incident
I never thought it
There's so many things that I'm like
There's no way that that would happen in my generation
And then it's too good
Now I'm just, I'm ready for anything and everything girl
I am not surprised by anything
I am fully bitch
You look weathered, you're in the movie twister
Because you look weathered.
I feel like anything can happen
And anyone is capable of anything
That's what I feel like
That's the world
A current presidential frontrunner
Is fighting jail
Like this shit is not real anymore
You know, I
There's polls coming out
That he actually is not the frontrunner
He's not even the
He's not the frontrunner
And the polls cannot
Which he knows
The GOP side, the polls actually
That he actually is not the frontrunner
He's not like
Donald Duck
He's not the frontrunner
He's not the frontrunner
You mean for their side or for the whole picture
For their side
They got a lot of fans
Yeah
I will say this
Democrats for the most part
Well, actually Democrats in general
We are not a cult
This is going to all the conservatives out there
All of my conservative drag her listeners
Listen up
Deja's talking
We do not have to go out to every second rally
We do not have to go out to anything
The only thing that we have to do is vote
Period
And that's all we're doing
We don't need to show the world again
Being a Democrat is not our personality
No
So to me it's just like a no-brainer
Like people are just going to show up
When it's time to show up
Mel and their ballots and that's it
Moving on
Period
Period
This girl's already been canceled
How much more can we talk about her
She's canceled
She's done, it's not going to happen
It's done
But that's what happens
When you made racist
I'm excited for Gen Z
It feels like their America might be pretty cute
But in the meantime
Yeah
Also they were the reasons why
Because Gen Z are trolls
I love them
That's a possible way
They were doing what
I know there was one huge event
Where they are
12,000 tickets
Yes
I know exactly what you're talking about
I don't know
Let's go ahead and get into
I could talk to you about everything forever
But I do want to know
We call this pod
Fuck my drag
When we invite our drag race legends on
To talk about something not drag race
For once in their goddamn life
Yeah
Fuck my drag
Tell me about something you're obsessed with
It does not have to do with drag race
You're into truly anything
TV show
Animals
Anything
Well I'm still into hand side porn
So there's that
Where I talk to me
My favorite thing I don't know
I'm so chill
My favorite thing to do right now
Actually is watching
Recaps of movies that I will never see
And it's entirety
Ooh I love this
I can't sit down unless I'm really intrigued by a movie
Fun like I'll go on YouTube
And I'll type in blah blah blah recap
And you'll see the pretty much the entirety of the movie
And like a 15 minute thing
You are kidding
And then most of the time I will go back
And actually watch the movie
I'll be like oh this actually seems interesting
So you spoil yourself to hell
But you want to make sure you're gonna like the journey
Yes because I'm not gonna
That's why I don't get into like series
Series is is is is
Series is is is is
She already done series is is
Like I could feel like Wednesday
That was like what seven episodes
But I can't get involved
In a law
I know myself
I will want to go back and I don't have the time to go back
Did you watch succession
I didn't watch succession
You might want to consider it
But again it's tough because the buy-in
Is white billionaires right
Which is like bummer
You lost me
It's a no for me
Um for those reasons I'm out
I did watch strangers
Stranger things season four
Okay I missed it
I missed it
It was it was pretty iconic
But then
Then I watched a three hour recap of the first
Ah
I'm fine with that I'm fine with that
I y'all I just I don't know
I just I don't have the time
I guess I'm becoming more in-patient
But I just don't have the time to just
To a series and I'm such a person
We're all asleep because I'm staying up
Till 5 am because I don't want to
Like what's the next episode
I've done that myself
I've done that way do you watch trailers
Because I if I know I'm gonna watch a movie
I try to avoid the trailer
Because I think the trailer takes everything away
Yeah I didn't watch not one Barbie trailer
Especially Marvel anything Marvel
Because I love Marvel
Anything Marvel I do not watch
The trailers because
I will get my hopes up one
Or they just get way too much
Like when did literally
Trailer stuff become recap
Yeah yeah yeah
Yeah it's like especially for rom coms
You're like I know every fucking beat now
Um what's your favorite Marvel like entity
Storm
Storm
Storm
Like she inspired me to be like
That badass kind of drag queen
Like is that what you're called
Deja Sky
I think it is
No
But sort of in general I just always looked up to
One I saw myself in her obviously
I'm a melanated you know person
So I saw myself in her
And I love that she was the leader
And I love that she was strong female
And I love that
I know when I first started doing drag
I was the I think I was a little too much
Like a little too in your face
And a little too like
Confident
You know but you
I was the bitch like my first year of drag
Because I felt like I had to prove myself
I felt like
I didn't want to go into it
Having anyone walk all over me
And then
And then you just level out
And then you start coming at one
And adults
And then you start becoming kind of
Just like more confident into yourself
And certainly as opposed to having to
Girl I know 55 girl drag queens
That are still
That
Not the good kind of confident
There's that like
Rejection
Like defensive
Like when a dog barks at you
Because they're trapped in the cage
Who are you still proving yourself to
Right
You are 105 years old
Who are you
Girl you don't need to prove yourself to anyone
And I know that they're still proving themselves to themselves
Like I feel like they're trying
Coming from inside
Yes, they're trying to project
How they truly feel on the inside to other people
Like like I don't know if they've been hurt
I don't know what's going on
But I don't have time for it
And honestly for me
I don't have time for the response
And I just learn this
And I use it a lot
When someone tries to come for you
Out of nowhere
Like I just had a forekeeping
That's it
But if someone comes out
I know you're aggressive
I know what you're going to say
Oh my god can you say that again
And then they go like
They don't either say it again
To be a bitch
Everyone you can't do it
Because then they know
To either not fuck with you again
Or other people
See how they really are
And then they're like problem solved
That is so interesting
That's like a metaphor of like
Because they're baiting you
So it's like they're putting out the line
They want that same thing with the fan
They want you to comment back
They want you to give in that satisfaction
But when it's so funny
When you put stuff like
Okay
Or gotcha
They don't know what to say
Because they want to rebuttal
So when you just leave it as a
Sentence done period
Then they're like well that's not what I wanted
So I'm going to go on another thing
I'm here for this metaphor
It's like imagine if a fish
Imagine if a literal fish
Handed you back your hook
And went
You read me bitch
Yeah
And so that's the main thing is
You either embarrass them
In front of everyone
How they were trying to embarrass you
And people see them for who they really are
Or they continue
And then you just keep on going like
Huh?
Like you just make them feel dumb
And that's the main thing is
Because they want a rebuttal
You just give them like
I stole this trick from Nicole
If someone says something crazy to you
She replies by saying
I'm sorry you're having a hard day
Like and it like
It freaks people out
It freaks people out
I'm sorry you did that
Yeah, I'm sorry you're having a hard day
Like and they just end up
Because then they're less like
What?
Yeah, they always do the Oprah
The
And then you know it's hard to not read comments
And it's hard to not
Want to clap back
But I have been learning especially in person
That one not everything is a sisterhood
So not everyone's going to get along
But also to you it's like
If I did nothing to you and you're just coming at me
It's very like okay well here's the way
To like defuse it
And make you look like an evil client that you really are
You know
A trillion percent
You said something really I want to know
Obviously you know RuPaul is so famous for saying
Drag reveals who you are
And you're because you're talking about queens
Who haven't revealed something about themselves
They need they need to learn something about themselves
Like what do you feel like you learned about yourself
Or have you had that like big
Drag breakthrough of like oh damn
Deja Sky taught this about me
Yeah, I mean I learned that
I am actually more sensitive than I ever thought
And I've learned that
You know to an extent
Um
It's not that I care about
I don't care about what people think of my drag
I care about what people think of me as a person
So to me
And it's not even like
Oh my god, I'm up at night being like
Oh my god, why don't people blah blah blah blah
That's more or less where it's coming from
So to me I learned that I'm actually a pretty sensitive person
Because for so long I had the shield
Of funny
Like no, I'm funny, no, you're just going to blah blah blah blah
And I kept people out of this
And it was actually really hard to
Make long lasting relationships
Because I have the garga
You know because obviously you've been through a lot
So on drag race
First episode when I was crying
I was like oh so I pretty much just learn
Like don't be afraid of emotions
You know and don't be afraid
To voice how you're feeling
To people that you love and really kind of be there
Because I've also always been
The person that people came to for advice
But rarely
Was I ever given the same
Kind of respect
Of when I had an issue
No one was really around to like
Yeah listen to me
You know
But I just learned that I'm that I'm sensitive
And there's nothing wrong with being sensitive you know
I mean I don't cry myself to sleep at night
But honestly what I do do
If you ever feel emotional
And this is good advice
If you ever feel emotional
Going to YouTube and type in happy tears
So that way you can get the emotions out
But you're
But you're crying because you're happy
I love that
What it is if it's little puppies
If it's like army people coming back from war and surprisingly
They're relative to like a massive kindness
So you're feeling the emotion of getting that out
But it's like happy because then you don't feel like
That afterwards you just feel kind of like
I'm glad I got that out moving on
You know?
Oh yeah totally I used to do that
I used to watch clips of Ellen
And cry
And now I'm crying because she's screaming at me
And verbally abusing me
But um yeah
I have things to change
Oh the devil's a term
Still crying
Yeah I 100% get that
That is very good advice
I mean I feel there's something else that's always on my cry list
Speaking of Marvel
Guardians of the galaxy volume three
Oh yeah
Jesus Christ
I couldn't like I watched the premiere of it
But I couldn't go back to the theaters
Because I was like oh no this is going to be bad
But then that was from Disney Plus
And I'm like I just watched it
Nice go
Yeah
Well but you
You have come across them
And you loved these characters
It was never my favorite character
Yeah same
But just seeing how much
Like his backstory
Seeing what he's been through
It's kind of that same full circle moment
That's why he had the guard up
Because of that
And then you kind of see that a little bit
Even with like um Thor
You see like the reason why he's so guarded
And he tries to be happy all the time
And then but he's lost everyone he's loved
So you just you just feel for people like that
That relatability
I feel like it's so important to Marvel
Which is what DC doesn't have
DC is just dark and gloomy
And they just rely on the same
Character every time
They cannot figure it out
They can't
I don't get it like to me
I feel like DC was the more popular
One?
Yeah it totally
But then in the 90s right
The first sort of making movies
Marvel have this like way of creating a world
And I think also too
Like and this is something that like I always liked is
Marvel is
More fantasy
In the real world
And the post to DC
Is real and a fake world
So it's very dark and gloomy
But it's in like Gotham
That's interesting
Whereas Marvel obviously not in space
So what marble in the US would use real cities like oh there in New York there in blah blah blah blah. So it was almost like it was what we wanted because we wanted to just walk out of our house and go fly, you know,
mean so they're like, oh we're California flying. So to me that was always that like related ability slightly.
But it's all the fantasy part. Yeah, you bring up a good point. X-Men was like, I mean, you love storm and like X-Men was so key in our childhood. Remember that X-Men cartoon, holy shit.
That theme song gives you juice.
No, no, no, no, no, no. I mean that was so good. But what marble like property do you feel like they need to like they either need to visit for the first time or
they need to redo like they need for sure. Yeah, you need to redo X-Men for sure. I think there's a I think to they should really dive into
because no one expected guardians of the galaxy to do as well as it did. And no one I didn't know who guardians of the galaxy was.
They need to do more properties where you have no idea who it is because obviously Spider-Man has been redone.
Yes, oh my god. So hope X-Men, but I'm slightly biased. But I think that they should visit properties that are maybe not as popular and that could become as popular as guardians of the galaxy.
You know, and I think that they could definitely do that. And also too many shows too many shows stop with the show because now your box office is like your secondary when it should be.
You remember when people would line up. Yeah for hours get tickets months in advance. That doesn't happen anymore because there's no there's no longer a special occasion because you can go into the plus and just watch a brand new series.
And it's entirety and the series isn't even that good. Like the only the only series in my opinion that did the damn thing was one division. Yeah.
Everything after that was just like I kind of slightly enjoyed moon night. Uh-huh. But every I tried to watch secret invasion. I was like.
No man. No man. I like she-hulk too. I like she-hulk. I just thought it was like interesting. The style was cool.
And we have justice for she-hulk and the reason why I'm saying this is y'all really thought that it was supposed to be taken serious.
That's what I'm saying. Y'all really thought this she's a campy lucky she's a whole what y'all it was that tire it was supposed to be camp it was supposed to be stupid.
But people are like I can't believe why would they ever feminine feminine. I'm like oh my god he was really supposed to be a fine show like a fine campy show.
It felt like cartoons from the 90s like in a cool way. Yeah. That was Marvel's aesthetic Marvel was the bright.
It can't be aesthetic and we we kind of lost it for a little bit. And then she hulk was that you know but of course people are going to see a woman led show and automatically be.
Give every single type of critique in the world and I'm like y'all it was meant to be satire was meant to camp.
Reed got fans. God fans of everything fans fans. Fans are back.
And culture. Our fan culture is stupid. Yeah I mean yeah yeah because we can we can't say that well not this and not yes fan culture.
Like what you're saying there's something there we're going to come up like I feel like we're going to teach a class on this or like there is a class coming up that like queer people are excited to be a part of pop culture.
Because we've been ostracized for so many years so then like for example drag race culture gave us an avenue into pop culture.
So then that gave so many queer people that are used to being silenced in avenue into a voice however they took that voice opportunity and immediately lost their mind.
Right yeah it was very much the you did this to me so I'm doing that to you yeah yeah it's it's like burning a flame with the flames that doesn't make come you guys we got to get it together.
Yeah we really do because I again been a ginormous fan of drag race before even step so I know every single season every contestant sure but I'm never in my life.
Wanted to tweet a death threat or want us to be like how dare you obviously it is a competition series there's outcomes that you don't agree with and there's outcomes that you absolutely agree with but keep it to your day.
Stop yes have a venue for it happen outlet for it but then also like have the decency to point at yourself and go but fuck me who cares who gives a fuck.
People the people that our fans have never set foot in a heel.
They've never put on a real one last.
It is difficult and happy and when you first start out you you're making some change like you never have to do that you're just viewing your kind of things and that was the other thing that people were like you're an alum so by you talking about drag race it makes sense because you've been in drag race.
You're supposed to just a fan just making videos and stuff like that I'm like there's there's opportunity for everyone but I just feel like for me.
Do it and either a constructive or a positive way like don't just have a channel or don't just be obscenities when you have no idea what you're talking about and you're just evil and a con that's gone that was gone with the beauty community with fucking you know the other.
Just for star and all that's all that is gone in certain canceled personality.
It's true like people get canceled just breathe enjoy the show have an opinion watch it with your friends but don't have me don't.
That doesn't make any sense like it's always as soon as as soon as you like reply anything they always go oh my god no I love you I didn't think you were going to see that.
I'm like you literally tags you.
Shut the fuck up.
People are weird people are weird people are weird people are weird it's true.
Oh okay we're going to talk about weird people but first one more tiny break.
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Bring back my break.
Oh hello that's that's my husband.
Hi husband.
Hi.
We're back bring back my break, Dacia.
I you went to Greece recently.
I did.
Wait, did you have fun?
Did your viewers adjust?
I got so melanated.
You got them in a lot of nation.
Okay, I wasn't going to go to the islands.
We did.
Well, we went to make it out and then we went to a couple of islands on like a cruise.
Fun.
So it was amazing.
I became obsessed with chicken soup locky like amazing.
Yes.
Yum.
Tzatziki and a year of bread.
Mama, it was so good.
Also, Greece has the most beautiful man I've ever seen in my life.
Hmm.
I'm telling you everywhere I look there was not one person.
Yeah, I wouldn't have just got them in the store.
She has a tie.
Beautiful.
Yeah.
Terry, bearded and light.
Yeah.
I get it.
I do get it.
It's like you like you and a sailor with a cigarette coming out of his mouth and his dirty forearms.
It's so beautiful.
Yeah.
And then I learned actually I already forgot the terms, but it was really funny because I had a layover in Germany.
Yeah.
Everyone was saying hello.
Hello everywhere, right?
Yeah.
So then I took that I took that to Greece and the people I was with I was with Patea from Canada.
Love.
And so whatever I said hello, she would know that I was like floating or like saying hello to like a hot guy.
Right, right, right.
So I would be like hello.
And she would go because she was seeing the world.
And like intercept with Greek being like yaza.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very love.
I swear I learned like the basic things, but I and they're gone.
I have short term memory.
I have short term memory.
It'll come back when you return.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm going back next year.
Mama.
Hello.
I wouldn't.
I think I was there at the same time.
Me and Nicole were in Mekonos at the end of July.
We could have been there the exact same damn time.
How did you go into the new beach at Mekonos?
We didn't.
We were close to the new beach.
Okay.
But I was like.
It's not really a new beach.
It's more like a nude area.
Area.
Yeah.
But but something about Greece in a weekend.
Did you get naked?
I got fully naked.
Holy bitch.
Holy bitch.
I was just living my life snorkeling with the fish.
I mean, maybe it was because we were there for like bear week.
So maybe I was seeing like guys with.
I love that.
Just a little something to make it feel less intense.
Yeah.
Because I mean, but honestly, in general, like when I go to any any pool or any.
I have my shirt.
I don't care.
But fully naked.
I never thought I would do that.
That was just.
Yeah.
With the nature.
I love that.
It was.
It was so gorgeous.
Beautiful.
It'll do that.
It'll do that.
It does.
The spirit awakens for sure.
The spirit awakens.
Dacia, you're killing it in Vegas right now.
Before I let you go, I want to know, will you ever return to the show?
To the.
Sure.
Would you?
Of course.
I will definitely return when the timing is right.
Yeah.
I just feel like going back prematurely is kind of dumb.
I know that there are a lot of girls that feel.
It strikes the eye and when it's hot.
I just feel like.
Yeah.
How you are one first grade.
And also how you do will follow you throughout your entire career.
Because people know me for 14.
I was consistent.
I was the yeah girl.
Like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What if I.
The thing is that what if I go on all stars prematurely?
Yeah.
And I.
And I get eliminated first.
Then I'm going to be known as that.
14 will be overshadowed.
Yeah.
That's so true.
That's the scary part.
Now, if it was a non elimination.
That hypothetically speaking.
Yeah.
It was more of like an incentive.
It's more of like, okay.
Yeah.
All the thousands of dollars that you put into the show of your looks.
You get to show off your looks.
That's the main reason I have talked to countless.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Howless alum.
And I'm like, why haven't you returned?
And of course they've asked them.
Yeah.
And they go straight into.
Well, I don't want to go home first.
You know, or I'm standing.
Thousands of dollars on looks.
And yet I probably won't be able to show them.
That's the risk that you don't have on regular drag.
Because now, as an all star, you.
Are hopefully established as an entertainer.
And you don't want it to ruin that.
Everything you've built for, like everything you've worked hard for,
like this apathy.
Like, these girls that have.
Been unscathed.
For years with no controversy.
Just fans, fans, fans, fans.
What if they go back and.
I don't know.
They become a bitch or they end not in the place that people thought
they was because now there's an expectation.
That's so real.
If you were top.
What?
Five up.
If you were top five, totally you better be top five.
Where people are going to be right now,
I don't want to crucify you.
It's pretty crazy.
I'm like y'all.
Oh, again.
Be nice, be, but I know you had,
you were really loved on your season.
You were really fun.
You got that classic like fun.
You were like a rock.
You were like that emotional rock.
Yes, I was like the mom of the group for sure.
Yeah, people definitely saw that.
They were like, you know,
I may not like that that blah blah blah,
but they're like, I love a personality.
She's just lovable.
So at least I got that out of it.
At least I got more of like,
I really enjoy her personality.
So I had something and it's something that will not change.
So that's good.
And I also don't think I have anything quote unquote
besides a roast.
I don't think I have anything quote unquote
to like prove when I go back.
Uh huh.
I just want it to be at the perfect timing.
I feel like 14 was the perfect timing for me.
And I want to continue that with an all star.
And I will definitely do an all star before I do a version
of the world first.
Like I definitely want to do an all star first
because I feel like versus the world is more or less
like that last two raw, you know?
And yeah, yeah, like that last kind of just like
sure, I'll do it.
Why not?
Why not?
Why in the jujube not?
Who cares?
You know, that.
Yeah.
But yeah, I definitely want to just,
I mean, of course, I, I literally miss it.
I was just talking to Jonathan Kennedy about this.
I was like, we miss on Drag Race,
but it's more or less like it's got to be that perfect timing.
Gotta be happy.
Well, I can't wait.
I know the fans can't wait.
Um, I can't, I hope you, I hope you become a monster
and you become a villain the next time you're back.
Yeah.
A fun villain.
I'm going to become like, you know, that's the thing.
I like villains long as they have a redeeming quality.
Like, right?
Like Raven.
Yes, the, the Raven, they, they have redeeming qualities.
They're like fun, villain, you know,
they're just not just an asshole.
They're just redeeming qualities to them.
Like, y'all, y'all, if there was not one villain
on the show, you would hate it.
Yeah.
You would be bored.
You'd be like, there's no this, there's no that.
But then when there's a villain, you still hate it.
And I'm like, oh my god, there's no, there's no,
there's no winning fans.
Please breathe.
We'll try and breathe, let it, let it play out.
And then, and then truly go out and eat,
go out, walk children in nature, go decompress,
come back to the show, do something on your own,
have a personality, be creative, suck a dick,
shut the fuck up, go do something.
That's the best way to shut someone up.
Yeah, I just, um,
a day to remind us where we can support you
and like, where are we going to support you?
Where are we coming to see you?
How much longer are you in Vegas?
All that stuff.
Yes, okay, so I live in Vegas now.
So you can come see me at Drive Race Live
or the Drag Race or Senior Frog.
You can find me on all my social media,
under Vision Sky.
And of course, my YouTube channel,
I'm really trying to get, I have a goal of 50k subscribers
by the end of the year, so I'm really trying to meet that.
Yes.
So yeah, but yeah, that's where you can find me.
Okay, we'll put those links below.
So click below if you're listening.
Um, yeah, deja, you're unbelievable and amazing.
Um, oh my god.
Well, I can't wait to see you again in real life person.
Um, I have a million questions for you,
but we're going to have to wait because we're out of time.
We're out of time.
It's going to be on the next episode.
It's going to be a part two as some part two.
I'll just say really quickly, how funny.
I was in Vegas during the Renaissance weekend.
And the amount, the number of women wearing silver
that also had throw up in their hair, um, was staggering.
Um, it was a very funny weekend to be there
because everyone's like, I'm, I'm Beyonce.
I'm fierce this weekend.
And then two hours later, yeah, barefoot in the Vegas street,
vomit on your sequin dress.
I've seen so many videos of, um, really smart people
selling flats.
Outside.
Yeah.
So word, that is how you make your first million.
So after the Renaissance, we all say concert.
Yes.
100%.
I love it.
Oh, I don't know.
So for having me, thank you for coming on.
OK, till next time, let the music play.
Is this where we dance?
Dance.
This is the main event.
Are you ready?
Yeah.
That was a hit thumb original.