HOLIDAY KIKI - (w/ Mano Agapion, Jan Sport, & Jackie Cox)
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Bring back sport bring back sport as you say you just show you say it all the time just when you're watching the football bring back sport
Exactly get brew has bring back my girls. I have bring back my sport
Where's he at?
Bring goddess. She's back. Thank goddess. I will say um, I don't know. We're lucky to use but
There may be some more Jan sportage coming from his sport to very soon
Oh, we're jumping the gun
Jackie you ready to jump I am we haven't even opened our tour yet
Oh, we can't talk about something that's happening in January
Can't talk about it yet. Can't talk about it. Not gonna do it. Not gonna do it. Okay. Okay, January. No, you know what
This don't use this don't use this. Um, I'm kidding. Um, I'm so excited. You're here. We're gonna talk holiday key and we're talking about your your holiday tour
Um, and we're gonna talk about Jan's new single popping off so many things. Let's just start Jackie
You've been here a couple times. I'm so happy to have you. I think I live I think I live in your house now
I think yes, I think I'm pretty sure I don't know where I was
But I think you just pulled me out of your like the wall. Yeah, I was here available to do this whatever you want
I would could if you would live in my walls that would make me happy the boy style
Um, have we seen the boy, you know, spook every spooky movie people are no which boy. No, I had not seen the boy
I just ruined it for you. I was I was getting an contour
Oh, very Bruno very Bruno. Yes, yes, Bruno who lives in the wall. Is that is that kind of the vibe? It's kind of the vibe
It is kind of the vibe but and unlike Bruno, we do talk about Jackie a lot. Yeah
That's why we're here
Um, let's talk about holidays a little bit before we talk about actually no tell me about this tour
And then we'll talk about holidays. Tell me about the tour. What are the date? What's happening? What is the show?
Okay, opening in New York City November 16th closing in New Orleans December 17th well closing for now there may be more to come
Closing for now December 17th
Extent possible extent
Holds that is tea that is a tease that is not an announcement. No, but we're holding for extent. We're holding that is that is a tease of a potential announced
Like Abbott Elementary you might get episodes on the back end. We don't know. We're just going to see
Exactly exactly you don't know cute. Well, you don't know
So let's tell me about what the what the tour is obviously. I haven't Jackie
I haven't seen you in a holiday show yet. I'm excited to Jan. I have seen you
Blow your goddamn lungs out of your body at a holiday show before
Oh, thank you. Tell me how this show came to be
Well, Jackie and I work together a lot. We've known each other in New York City for a long time
But when we got on the show and we were on season 12 together
We are with the same manager and so we get booked a lot of places together
And the one thing that we always get told by by audiences and people who work at the venues alike is that
You two are a lot of fun together and we were just like girl. Let's do I was like I want to do something with you
We would have so much fun to do a Christmas show and so yeah
We just kind of had this idea and then we made it come to the page
And I think too that's that's like the kind of the foundation of it right is like our actual friendship and
Not just our actual friendship
But also the like what we've started to like build in a lot of these some of these
venues we've never been to before but a lot of them are places we have been to before and so it's fun to kind of come back
And maybe they saw us separately or maybe they saw us together
But now they're seeing us in like this supreme package edition of the Jan and Jackie experience
Which is just as wild as you might imagine and features
Yes, the most random potential set list you have ever heard of
Um all over the map all over the map like us
We got we got musical theater. We got pop divas. We got some old school
We got some new school. We got some unreleased
Music we've got some songs that you're gonna hear and you're gonna be like where have I heard that before and after the show when I tell you
Your brain will explode
Fun. Okay. I'm excited. Wait. Okay. I'm gonna. I don't want to spoil the show, but I want to know is is the show like you two hosting a show
Or is it like a heightened Jackie and Jan hosting a show
That makes sense. Yeah, like how meta are we yeah like is it like holiday special or it's like hey bitches
We're singing
No, I think it's like there's there's a story. We are putting on a show. We are telling story in our apartment
You're in our apartment that just happens. Yeah, yeah, you're in our apartment
It just happens to look like you know the venue you're at what a surprise wow
I never I don't remember there being a bar in this part of our apartment, but here it is
You know, it's very very yes-and yes god experience a little pee we herman
Yeah
A little bit of friends. We're getting a little bit of a our gigantic New York apartment vibe. Yeah, friends
Yeah, great reference because I've been telling pee folks this show is like imagine like a traditional Christmas cabaret
If it was thrown by like Romeo and Michelle
Oh, we're fucking love Romeo and Michelle. We have we decided who's the Romeo and who's the Michelle
I think we have to know
I don't think we have I think I'm the Romeo I was gonna say I think I'm Michelle
Yeah, I love that
Yeah, I'm I'm and neither of you the rhoda no one's the rhoda. We just have the rhoda
No one's the rhoda good. No one's the rhoda. We're both the beat. We're both the Mary and the Beyoncé
Just the wide open rhoda head of us on this tour. I can't wait. I can't wait. So you're we sure going from New York and then you're going down the east coast kind of
We went from the New York to the west coast to the Midwest and then to the south
Queue that is gonna be so fucking fierce. I can't wait to hear the show see the show
And wait wait before we're gonna talk more about holidays
But like wait wait where do people buy the tickets? What website do they buy them at?
Oh easiest part of this whole experience is Jackie and Jan dot com. Wait what Jackie and Jan dot com
Jackie and Jan dot com and that link will be below
Jackie and Jan dot com
website
Developed by our our very own Jackie Cox and might I say it is very beautiful
She is not only smart. She is not only talented. She is in tech women in tech. I love it. Women very stem
Very stem. Very stem. Jason. Oh my god. I'm a Jason. Yeah, she has she has a subscription to website builder and she is not afraid to use it
It's giving what was that Oscar movie with the ladies who were a NASA
Florence Foster Jenkins. It's giving Florence Foster Jenkins makes a website. Yeah, that's the movie I was thinking
Definitely. Oh my god. Would tell me like holiday memories for y'all take me into your world. What is like
What are y'all vibes on a holiday right holiday is so funny
I was just talking about this with y'all a little bit before up like I am in equal parts heaven and hell during the holidays
Because I am the older I get the harder it is for me to be like
What does going back home mean? What is going back home mean for y'all during the holidays
For the last few years, it means not for me
I mean, I've been working a lot and I try to visit my family when I can
It's so expensive in the holidays
So I if I'm if I'm here during the season, I'm not working
I'm I'm hanging with my pals. We're going shopping. We're getting those special overpriced holiday drinks
We're going to the specially themed overpriced holiday bars
And we are tipping the wait staff extra for working on the holidays and we are enjoying
We're enjoying it
work
Yeah, the past couple years for me have been a lot about traveling as well
Normally I am with my family. I live in New Jersey. My family lives about 45 minutes away from me
And it is a huge festivity on Christmas Eve huge celebration on Christmas
And that's really my vibe on the holidays this year
I'm actually going to Phoenix to be with my partners family, which is something I have not done
In a minute, so I'm super excited about that
So it's going to be a little different for me where you can teach an old dog new tricks
Cute. That's fun. Have you met them before or is this the first time? Yeah
Yeah, I met them before so it's it's all fun, but I've never
Christmas with them in Phoenix
So I'm excited about that
But wait a minute and not to tease too much, but like for those in the audience on Friday at our New York show
Yeah, they may see all of Jan's extended family there
Which I'm excited about. I'm very excited
That's fun. And it's not even a May it's a it's they will be in attendance as long as they're
If you buy a ticket, you will be seeing the sport family live and living color
How do you all do when family comes to watch you perform? I
I
It makes me crazy
It was actually just having this conversation last night with Jackie and
With with some of our dancers
I'll say dancers. There's dancers. Yeah. Oh, yeah
And I would select cities select cities select cities select cities. Okay, select select
Um, but I was saying I actually don't mind just my family comes anymore
I'm actually nervous about my partners mother
Because she is she is the sweetest person on the planet
But I would never want to offend her and I would want to offend my family either just with like any random thing that I can say
Because I'm like I'm I'm a third-year-old drag queen who loves to be crass and crazy
And I don't want to ever limit myself to what it could possibly say to make a joke
So it is nerve-racking for me, but Jackie did say Jan
Honey
You can think of another joke that might not be
disparaging Jesus Christ herself on on the holidays. So
And my sister did give me a lot of confidence with that and I said yeah, you know what I can leave
I can leave the Jesus crucifying for Easter
It's also it's also like a good opportunity for us, you know, I want drag
First of all, I think all kinds of drag is valid and I think the dirtiest most raunchiest most offensive
Filthy drag is totally
Amazing, but I do part of me is just excited because I do think this show
I mean unless you're just anti gay. I think this show is for everyone like if you are broke
If you are down with the LGBT honey, then you are up in this show like there is a place for you
There is a song for you. There's a reference for you
And I want all of our community to feel included in this
um
You know
We're not the raunchiest or filthiest queens, but we're gonna have a good time
We know how to tease and titillate a bit
I think that's what I think not to without sounding corny like I actually think
This shows like this like remind queer people who have like there are who are building their own family like
Remind them that like things like the holidays aren't exclusive of their experience. So it's like without sounding
Yeah, and corny like it's really fucking special that like
You that a queer person can go get this sort of experience in a safe space as opposed to relying on oh
Well, that's only if I have a heteronormy family
Totally totally
And this show has so many queer references. It's just so inherently gay
You've been beyond the fact that we are just drag queens performing it and it is a welcoming into our lives right like you were saying
It's a welcoming into our home about Christmas experiences with them going right
Or wrong and how we solve and figure that out and um
Yeah, I think the overall takeaway that we want to do with the show is make everybody feel welcome
There's so much craziness going on in our world
Not only in our own community, but just the world at large and I feel like the holidays are a time where you know
People might not they could feel very alienated seasonal depression is real
Some people don't have wonderful experiences with holidays past and families in the past and
We want people to come here and feel really really good and taken care of by us
And I know that if there's one thing Jackie and I can do it is that
And and not to give away too much of the libretto of our piece
Early on
Early on in the show you will hear out of our mouths. We are gay. We can do anything and I believe it
I believe it that that is the message of the show
That is
That's powerful shit. I want to know what is something from the holidays that that needs a chop
Like anything is it whether it's a food or a tradition or a movie or a song
What what what needs the holiday chop? What are we getting rid of you got to give me a second here
But I'm definitely going to get one I
I there are things that I get pissed off about for no reason and I know that one's going to pop into my head
Take your time. Do you have any that you think
Jackie do you have one? Well, I mean the that the travel prices are
Racha like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the reason unless it's for work
I don't usually travel on the holidays because I'm like do I really want to spend three times the price
I normally pay to fly to LA or wherever no yeah, I don't I'll just visit people in January to pay for trauma
You want me to pay double for more for I'm talking about my experience
But for me like my family is in tumult. I mean, and it is it is fireworks
Crazy, so it's like you want me to pay double to go get like some fresh trauma honey. No, no, no
Yeah, so so luckily for me like one of our early stops is in Orange County, California where my dad lives and where I
finished high school and is literally at the little theater where I did big river the musical as a youth
Um, and so the best part of that is that I'm like dad. That's your Christmas visit
Totally work
Where Christmas visit is coming to see me your son as a gorgeous woman in where
That's present ended a tree the best presents. I have to I have to say this. I don't necessarily think that this is um a chop
It's more of a call to action about the um disappearing act that the Pillsbury holiday cookies are pulling on us
I have not seen a Pillsbury holiday cookie on a shelf in a minute
And I've got too many different stores. Maybe this is a New York New Jersey thing
Well, I think that Pillsbury is really pulling out the stops to not make those as accessible as they want to work
And quite frankly as they should be
Um, so that's what does Barry. I would love. I'm I this is a call to action
I mean Pillsbury to really really expands their shipping to more parts of the U.S
Um, baby. We're gonna get we're gonna get people to judge on this
We're gonna get the secretary of transportation also our our lord gave people to judge to help fix use of my lines
Thank you lord gay gay and waiting true the true
King to the throne. I can't wait for him to fucking Cersei Lannister Biden and get right up there
Um, that would be cool. Wouldn't that be cool? Um, no, I'm just so please
Also chop
Not doing stocking stuffers
stuff the stocking stuff it stuff in there, but stuff is stuff the stocking even if it sucks
Just small fun things are fun
You could put paper in there. I don't care stock the stuffing. Yeah
Stuff the stocking
See I'm getting in a dizzy about when you make your stuffing make sure you use stock
You've stock the stuffing stock the stuffing stock stuffing stock.com over stock.com for your over stock stuff stuff
Truly I can see this but Jan's eyes are bleeding Jan is I rate
Jan is over it
I'm gonna chop candy canes. I think they're stupid. I think they're fucking stupid
Whoa, I'm sorry
Can we make okay, you know like how pockies are delicious do we really get a lot of emails you're gonna get a lot
This is the most controversial thing you could say in 2023 this will be the thing
This isn't this isn't like candy corn. Everyone agrees candy corn is horrible, but I don't know about candy. I don't
I don't I love candy corns
controversy
But you know and you know what I would rather take
I would rather take it. I would take candy corn over candy cane any day
I'll say it
My thing like this is an example of the high stakes and high drama fighting
You will see between me and Jan during the Jackie's it's like a CNN roundtable. It is this is
non-stop debate
Baby we're gonna we're gonna cool off because we are getting we are getting very mad
Roasting over an open fire. Oh
And we're not talking about the after party. We are gonna be right back, but first
Silence my queens. I feel like taking a break
Bring back my break. We're back. We're with the icons Jackie Cox Jan sport now
I want to ask you a little bit. I think the listeners would be mad if I didn't ask you a little bit for you to chat just an ever so little bit
Now that it's been a couple years
What are what is a fun memory or moment you look back on from season 12 doing it together that you go huh? That was silly
Something I remember was the actual
Energy that Jan walked into the workroom with every day was so
Inspiring to me because I think after like the third week. I was like
Oh my god
Here we go because we're up early. I mean we're we're we're the queens
We're the ones who get there first and we leave last like you know
We get there early in the to meet with the producers who do our interviews first and then we're all day with Roo or whatever's happening
And then afterwards there's usually some follow-up things as well that we have to work off camera
So like are there like we're there literally on set. I I think
Some days we were there from eight to 10 if not most days
Um and and your brain is going so hard and I don't know how she did it Jan. I don't know what oh
You did it, but you walked in every day with the big smile on your face. It's inspiring to me
I'd like to I'd like to bring up another great point, which is you did say you know in the three week
You know it about three weeks in you were feeling a little
You know a little tired. I didn't make it that far. So you know what
You did
Yeah
Stop that you made it to episodes eight oh nine. I think
I think for you is being there. Thank you. I thank you for saying that I you know
I love drag race and I loved going on the show and truly that energy was very very
Real for me. I was so happy to be there
Um and also I was really happy to be with Jackie
Um
This is a little morbid, but I remember when vertigot eliminated and I lost that episode and Jackie was in the bottom
It was just like it was just
Maybe like the worst day in my life just with like a bunch of things happening
Just like it was a complete opposite of everything that I had hoped for and wanted in my experience
And I just remember sitting and crying and Jackie was consoling me and being like, Jan. Yeah, it's gonna be okay
So yeah, my sister has always and whether we're
At cherries on fire island or we are in the studio at drag race in
In California my sister's always there for me
I'm I think that's really amazing. I think you are amazing Jan
I would be remiss if I didn't tell you that you come up often on this podcast because
We a lot of times like and with Rachel Bloom mutual friend
Girl we all the times
Oh, her show death. Let me do my show. How I haven't seen. Yeah, how is it?
It's coming back like plug. It's coming back to New York. I believe in the holidays. Oh my god
So you can you can jingle and jam and let death
Let death let Rachel do her show let death let Rachel do her show so you can go watch her show
Yeah, you can go watch her show
Come up a lot you come up a lot because we're just like we think it's so funny that you have you
Unfortunately, they're just like become the poster child for like effort being punished
Um, right? You know what I mean like and we always think it's just so bizarre
Can be punished yeah, we think it's bizarre. I felt the same way too and I'm really really thankful for that
So thank you for seeing me of course we both I we very much identify with you of just being like
Oh gosh, like why is that a bad thing? Why is like wanting a lot and going for it bad? I don't get it
Yeah, well, it's too because it's it's just that it's such an interesting situation
Obviously you're being in drag race and you're being like you're being judged for things that like in a normal
Like arena like no one is like
Sitting and watching you write the lyrics of whatever your song ends up being no one's sitting and watching you in the rehearsal for the number
That you end up doing on stage like that doesn't happen in real life people just see like whatever the finished version of the product is and for some of us
Myself included like our process involves a lot of like thinking and like wheels turning
And I know that like it's so exciting to see someone who's very spontaneous and off the cuff all the time
Which we both have that side as well, but sometimes especially depending on the kind of
Challenge it was or where we were in our head space
Sometimes the wheels are turning in our heads and you can see that and that's like the normal part of any creative process for a lot of people like
Yeah, I think it's it's hard because it I do understand the flip side
Which is like how exciting that someone just like appeared and was able to do this seemingly off the cuff like how amazing
But sometimes these challenges are things we hadn't prepared for in our mind and so you actually see us
doing the work or putting forth the effort
And like that's just part of our like the real creative process
I remember for my commercial challenge when I got sent home we were talking in the we were talking it on tux and Jackie
Kind of just highlighting this this um what she was saying is we were talking about the commercial being played back and you were like
If you had seen
If you was like if you she was like if you had edited that and you saw the footage that you were giving
You would have been able to change what you were doing in a moment because you know
The type of performer you are and you know what you'd like to see you
You know how to come off and you can change that if you saw that you don't get that opportunity on drag
So you are just kind of in there in that pressure cooker and hoping that it sticks and works
And I was very I'm very uh you guys we know kind of a hundred percent throw it out the wall
See what sticks kind of a girl
And yeah, I I feel like the the whole effort thing do you want to survive or do either of you want to
I do okay. I feel like it's one of those things where it's like
You get punished for looking for the idol when everybody wants to look for the idol
Like everybody wants to win, but you can't show that you're trying to win too much and I think that's where I kind of got
um
tripped up a little bit because I wanted it so bad, but I wasn't really um
I couldn't take myself out of that in yeah
But I mean, I don't want to even apologize for that because I really went after what I wanted in my light
You should and I don't apologize
I think people people say that to us on the road, though, too
Like I they're obviously some people are like yeah, why couldn't you have been like and it's like
Okay, I don't know who you are a person who says that kind of stuff to me
But there are a lot of people just come and say oh hey, I saw what you were trying to do
I mean Rachel's actually a great example for me personally and that she literally said to me in the debate challenge
Where I was in the bottom that Rachel put me in the bottom, right?
I mean she was contributing judge on that episode
But she was like I saw what you were trying to do
This is how I would have taken it and maybe made it that idea work and that's like yeah in a real creative process
That's how it works is like right you would you would fix it
She was like I like that you were doing this Canadian stick
But maybe you could have like up the ante as the debate went on so that it got more and more ridiculous
And I'm like, oh, that's a good idea now. I'm thinking okay if this was real life
I've been okay great
Maybe there's I added a bit worse than I'm dumping maple syrup all over myself like who knows what it would have been
But we we get that opportunity in those kind of working sessions
And I mean that's why I like obviously like I respect Rachel as an artist as well and obviously deep friend of the pod
But it's like that's the process is like you see each other and you're like okay
Obviously I didn't laugh a lot at this
But I can see what you were thinking and this is how you can maybe take that idea and make it work
That's like the hard thing about that show is
As much as it's a learning experience because it is we're both of us
It's also like you know, oh
There's always like few regrets that you just have to kind of plow through and learn and do better in like your real life
Or next time you ever do it. Yeah, tell me more don't go Jan. No you
I was just gonna say yeah like
It's it's the weirdest like hotting of the show where
Only the people who experience it are getting those things like we are experiencing that in real time
And everybody else is experiencing us learning from our mistakes
Where you where you don't do that in real life
And everybody gets to comment on us making mistakes and not being thrilled about a performance
We're not perfect and you know, I think that people fans of the show who are obviously super passionate about it might not realize that
We don't get the opportunity to
Learn from it behind closed doors and right and it's nice when you have judges who are from the fields that you want to expand in right like Rachel telling that to you was a great
Note that you could take you know with you in whatever that you applied to trying to think about things in a different way
I remember Ross was telling me
In one of the challenges on all stars. He was like you need more peaks and valleys
And that was something that really had stuck with me because especially in my commercial challenge
And I felt again, I think that was probably the note that he gave me during that commercial challenge
He was just telling me to give a little more levels
But the way he described it with peaks and valleys was really something that stuck to me and something that I learned from as a mistake in that room
But something that I've taken throughout my entire life
Now that I've you know heard that and and it really resonated with me
I can take that and apply it to other things in my life
But it's just crazy that we experience it and everybody else does too
And so I love that we suggest ourselves to that you know, we go on the show you take those risks
And you know, I just wish that people would have a little more maybe
Compassion about you know, you know, yeah, I don't understand you're mistakes too, you know like it's just it's very interesting
It's but it's so much fun like I and yeah, I feel better for it
I'm like I'm so glad that I
I'll honestly have those memories of me learning about myself and my life and how I operate and I get to watch that for
Forever
Yeah, it is pretty iconic moments. I I wonder yeah, I'm getting over
I mean you're sitting on the iconic moment. You're showing me I'm sitting on the robe the safe the safe eyes robe
And we've all been there good god have we been there um
I love what you're saying and I love that um using it applicably is important
So to that like I'm gonna ask a crazy question
What piece of advice would you give to the season 17 girl the the girl who's getting on next what what piece of advice would you give her?
Because that's the season that's casting right now, huh? I guess so right
16th already in the can 16's films no advice to give them
Yeah, I think for me season 17 girl. I'm gagged. Just think about that. I it's five years almost. It's great. Hey
Holy moly. I think it's and it's weird because this is something differently that I would say I wouldn't maybe have said this to
Well, no, I guess I would it's just I feel like it's a little more you need to do it now
You really need to figure out what you offer to the table that is different from everybody who has come
17 seasons before and to be fair
Every international season that's going on at the same time too
Finding something that makes you special in order to stick out whether you are on the show doing that thing
That makes you special or the work that you're putting into social media afterwards is the way to
gain longevity in this career because I think a lot of people jack-in-ire theater girls and I think about my drag
Fortunately and unfortunately as also a business as well and how do I keep one upping myself?
How do I keep keeping myself relevant? What do I do next and how can I relate to my fans who want to see more for me?
I think creating that relationship with them off the bat very quickly
Once the season is announced is something super important to be able to capitalize on the longevity of your future in disenfranchise
work
Yeah, and my advice would be to like remember that like
Nothing that bad can happen to you
That's I think really hard in the moment where you're like oh my god if I don't win this or do this or hear whatever
Like something horrible will happen
Because like I had some tough moments I had some great moments
But like I learned that like I believe enough in myself and also like how I handle myself that like
Anything that either happened during the show or afterwards
Where the people just agree to something I said or did or things that like I can address and handle and like
It'll be okay
Like there's literally it's I mean as long as you obviously don't you know break any rules don't like do anything
Offensive to people but in terms of like just like you and your performance as a drag queen like
There are times I make up on drag race is just
hideous
so
uggling
And you know what I am still paid to put on makeup and perform people
There are times when I listen to me trying to find the vocal part in boy toy
Which is a song completely out of my range and so I was like how do I mix it?
How do I use my hand voice and like obviously you see me in the moments
That's all the time we have trying to find it in the recording studio and I sound horrible
And you know what I am literally going on a 16 city tour with one of the best
In the history of the franchise and singing with her sorry and next to her sorry
We're gonna do it and that's okay. It's gonna be great
You can literally come back from anything so like even in the moment
Oh my god, I'm so embarrassed this happened that happened or oh my god
I can't believe I effed up this part of the challenge like right you
Have to believe that you can come back from it. You have to believe that because if you don't you can lost
I've seen girls
They're edit of the show like yeah, you know it okay like they start believing it
I've seen girls where they just start believing it. I've heard from Queens who've been like oh my god
My edit was so bad like I don't even want to do this anymore
And it's like yo, you can come back. You can come back. You can you can you can you can because you or got to this level
Because of who you are like I really don't think they cast filler queens in the sense that like we joke about like
Yeah, they see something unique in each of us and they they
They want that to shine and so like
Even if you come out of the experience or come out of an episode or come out of a challenge or come out of any part of it
Feeling like maybe your shine isn't as shiny as it was like
You within yourself have the ability to shine yourself back up
Get yourself back up take those voice lessons take those dance lessons take that
Comedy note take that acting class whatever it is that you need to work on for yourself to get your confidence back
And you can literally do it
That's my read
Yeah, I literally did womanizer on the show
A lip sync that I don't think was well received by by most and to be fair I agree and honestly
But people are just so less
Yeah, you didn't woman either. Well, what did I but what did I just do last week?
I did the official Britney book launch party. She should yes. Oh my god. Yes
I saw you I saw a clip of you singing NYC sold out Britney launch party
Yes, the good and bad news is people forget
You know what I mean for sure
Um, and like I love that what you're saying so much and obviously it's such a recurring theme in our work is like
Yes, we we unfortunately have to we want the feedback from fans
We want the positive feedback but at the end of the god damn day
It really doesn't fucking matter what they're saying
Because if you're living for you and you're putting that energy out like then you can sustain your own success
Period and people and people people respond to that too like we
It's so easy to focus on the negativity Rachel's really good at talking about this
So I was bringing her up because I'm like oh she's smart. Let's not podcast every Samantha be and she talked about how
You know like the safetyness of internet and how much you put yourself out there and how much you don't it's like
There's so much negativity out there that you just have to know when to literally
Ignore it and be like nope
That's not for me today
And I'm gonna move on and be proud of the things that I can do and work on the things that I can work on
And that's literally all we can do baby
That's that's that's a spirit of Christmas. Oh
Oh my god
Christmas time
Hey full lot each other
I am soaked head to toe. We're gonna come right back after this break to talk about Jan's new single dropping
but first
Silence my queens. I feel like taking a break
Bring back my break we're back
I got a sneak peek of Jan's new single holiday hook up. I believe it's called
Christmas hook up. I'm sorry. I just I just know you know
I grew up with Christmas
It is and it should be holiday because this is a song for anybody who experiences this at
At the holiday time, but yeah, it's called Christmas hook up. It's so funny and beautiful
It is so funny and beautiful and I was shocked at how you balanced both
Thanks. Yeah, I wanted to give a beautiful lyrical line with some beautiful melodies and harmonies a chorus even
But also just I'm speaking about
Hooking up with DL men who I went to high school with and I I love that I can do that over a sickening beat and melody
Yeah, it's so good. It and here's the thing
You want to sell some Christmas tickets you get a live performance of it at our show honey. Oh, yeah
Fine. Wait, when is it drop officially? When does the single drop? It officially drops
I believe December 1st, whatever the first Friday of December is at the time first for third and
Yeah, if you buy a ticket to the show, I will be performing it live
But I will also be doing it before it drops out. We have like five dates before the actual single comes out
And so if you're there and those dates you'll be hearing the song before anyone else
It's so funny. It's so cool and again, I like I just said it like I would get kept going back and forth on
How funny or beautiful the song was and it really accomplishes both and it made me think of my Christmas hookups
And it made me think about hmm. Maybe I should I should have a Christmas hookup this year. Maybe that's in the cards. Yeah
Absolutely, that's what the song's all about. It's bringing awareness because I have to tell you
I brought this idea up to a bunch of my friends who know that I'm making this song and I was like
Yeah, you know like when you're at home for the holidays and you hook up with somebody from your high school
And I like what they're like that happens to you. I was like
Yeah, it's like is that is that not a common thing for everybody? Yeah, and they were like well no
I was like well that sucks
It was like you have to experience that like like so do it. So yeah, I would say go out there
There is a specific tension to like coming back to your hometown and like reconnecting with someone
And it's like whether it the hookups are good or bad. You're like I'm gonna remember that
Oh
100% I will say in my experiences most of them no shade to y'all who are listening to this, but it's been bad
Um, but you know what I will yeah, the one I'm thinking of was bad
But I'll say this like
The new jersey boy school of the sacred heart. Yes, I hooked up with I hooked up with this boy from high school
Who has no idea what he's fucking doing and now we're fucking 28 years old and he has no fucking clue
And you know what maybe I'm the first or second guy. He's ever been with but honey. I'll remember it too
And I know he will as well
My power the power I'm gonna tell you by mine too mine was so like it should have been good where the guy was hot
But clearly had some closity issues and then I was like, okay, wow his body is very nice
But then he started touching me like the way you pick up a turtle at a pet store like he was
Do you know what I mean? I'm like no, I'm 100% touch my body. He's fucking like you touch my body
But he was like it's it's the closed mouth kiss to oh
God I can't it was I don't think I have I don't think I've they don't know what I will say like this is
Yeah, I have an ex not
No, like
This is a conversation starter
Thank you, Jen for bringing
On this topic. Yes
And I feel like not a lot of I it's so funny. It's it's such a funny perfect topic that has both that
Reality and goofiness to it. So I'm excited to feel to listen to it. Yeah
I'm excited to feel to listen to it. It's really cute. So go see these two live and then go stream that song or fucking buy it
You cheap bastard
Yeah
It's this holiday season
Please
So remind us where we can come see you and where we can buy tickets
We're touring at 16 cities starting November 16th through December 17th for now
16 cities across the US you can go to Jackie and Jan dot com for all your tickets
Tour merch will be up there very soon and we'll also put a link to
Uh
Christmas hookup as soon as it drops yes
Links for the tickets and uh the tickets especially will be in this podcast description. So click click below
Thank you, babe. That's very sweet. Yeah, we're we're in New York, San Francisco L.A
Garden Grove, California Springfield, Missouri, Kansas City, Missouri, Richmond, Virginia, Atlanta, Georgia
um
Louisville, Kentucky
Columbus, Ohio, Indianapolis, Nashville, Cincinnati, Huntington, and New Orleans
That's a lot of places, bitch. Yeah, we we were traveling honey. Oh my god
Go see us in L.A. Come on you come in you come in it comes
I absolutely gonna come see you in L.A. hallowed high water. I will be there amazing
Full price for tickets full price. I figured full price you'd be too worried
I only I only I only want you to experience the best by paying full price
You're like you want to make sure I'm present for it. We're gonna comp wouldn't I wouldn't be present if my
Don't forget I think for you I don't know about everyone else but for you to drink minimum as well
I can afford it. I don't need to miss. I don't need to miss the hallways. I can afford it
I drive a Honda CRV and it's paid for so I can
You also you also
You famously have the only drag race recap podcast. So I know and it's lucrative
It's weird no one else's thought of it. It's weird. No one who's been on the show has thought of it
It's weird that the show itself doesn't have another outlet to talk about their own show, but
Still I persisted
I am so fucking gag girl came. I'm a huge fan of the both of you. I adore you both and
Yeah, thank you so much. You're fine. Have a beautiful holiday seasons spreading queer cheer everywhere you go
Happy holidays, baby
Happy holidays almost
See you then till next time my dears
Let the music play
Yay
Thanks babe. That was so much fun
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