S15 - Grand Finale (w/ Mano Agapion & Rachel Bloom)

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Because I mean, with commercials, it was still an hour and a half. Oh, I guess. Yeah, but no. Oh. Oh, maybe. Oh, okay. That's okay. So it wasn't an hour and a half. Yeah, I think it was still an hour and a half. But they really took their time with this runway with all of the girls coming out. And I have to say, like, the standouts for us. Irene Du Bois, the thing, if you didn't catch it on the finale, the whole thing is it's a callback to the dead butterfly moment. So you'll see she throws up these. Yes. And like, we were all laughing super hard. They don't really show it. Right. So funny. I'll toss in my chirp. It's a gorgeous look. Oh, yes. I know that was it was a while being there. That was a weird thing to notice too of like, oh, the sound mixing is fucked. Like, I get it. They're trying to even out the sound, but there's no peaks and valleys for when we had bigger reactions. Like we had bigger reactions to some people. And they kind of kept it pretty even across the board. Well, okay. So I think there's a couple things. I think they, I think the music so loud, it's hard to isolate. So when you're when you're on when you're a judge on regular drag race, you know, you do the runway runs once with music. And then the second time you do the runway silent so that you can hear the judges critiques. Because you isolate the sound, but here they didn't isolate the sound. There was always music. So I think it must be also very hard to. I don't know how much the audience was miced as opposed to the stage. Like it must be hard to isolate those things. You can't really tell. There was cheering and laughter, but yeah, we were laughing a lot. At least we were at the Iren. Yes. Iren was funny. Poppy was funny. Poppy, I got to say, she popped her. She cracked the this little tiara open and spread it toward everyone. And they cut it out of the edit. She did a Mean Girls reference where she cracked that tiara in half and gave it to everyone. I'm like, come on, we've had in the edit. Let her have a moment. Why didn't they do that? I don't know. They shouldn't have the time. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, that was a very that was very fun. It was very fun. Okay. I'm chirping. I'm chirping in in in in in in quickness. But I mean, I don't think there was any burps here. I mean, sugar looks amazing. Sugar looks great. We will talk about her choice not to lip sync in the drag is a protest song, which I think it was a choice. But like for her, the song was a protest. Yeah. That's great. Yeah, I get it. Hannah Montana or something. Yes. Yes. That's just past my time. The Hannah Montana. Same. I missed it just barely. Yeah. Robin. Okay. These are all chirps. So keep keep. Robin Ferris is a chirp. She's gorgeous. We've lost the Williams. You see. Her next to Jeffrey, the Vanessa Williams was not there the whole time. She wasn't there for the eight hour filming, obviously. No, she was there for the queen of the universe, Prama, and she hit it. And that was actually the first thing they filmed. Yes. The first thing of the night was the queen of the universe. Yes. They were getting us hot. They were getting our reaction. That's the other thing, obviously, that's probably obvious to everyone. They get they got us. They made us bark like dogs for like 40 minutes of like happy. Excited. Swang hands, which I'm shocked. They left a shot of me not swaying hands in there. Oh, so I noticed that I'm very so so so yes. So one of the sorry. So one of the activities that you do when you're in between setups is audience reactions and Michelle and Carson were leading were like were and Ross were like leading these. They're like, okay. Now react as if a queen just said something shady. Yeah. You are you're acting for them. And then at one point they're like, all right, you're listening to the song. We're going to play the instrumental sway. I didn't notice you weren't saying I am swaying hardcore. And I just have to say never in my life have I organically swayed to a song with my hands in jazz had mode that was very directed. So I just for anyone like whoa. That's how Rachel Bloom reacts to like a very powerful potent song about drag. You know, that wouldn't be my natural inclination. That was a very kind of you to do it. I couldn't I couldn't do it. I'll do anything. I look like an idiot. I can make myself look like an idiot like they capture some actually dumb looks on my face that are authentic and real and I'm here for that. But I couldn't sway. I couldn't do it. It was too much. Sure. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay. We're just we're chirping all these looks look Robin sickening. Oh, this was a good moment. Right. So or am I my are what you have what you have to understand is when she unfurled this fan that said drag is not a crime. It was a standing ovation. People were losing their minds. I think they maybe didn't have time to show it or I don't know it. Oh, they showed no, no, they do show it a little bit, but it's like it really was a quite it was a powerful huge moment. Yeah. True. Jack's looking cute. Okay. That's a that's a sharp. That's a sharp. That's a sharp. That's a sharp. It's all a sharp spice. A sharp of course love it. If I had to pick, I was a sugar look better. I don't know why I'm comparing them. My lady with all Fox crabby Ursula love it. So bash Jilla if you will. I want this is also, um, if there was a drag show about periods, she'd play your period, but like your fabulous period. Yes. Okay. Now, Marsha Marsha Marsha is playing your period when you're spotting. Yes. I don't know if it's over yet. Right. Uh huh. It's day seven or eight. Dare I say? Oh, I hope not. That shows you how much I know about the woman's body. Everyone bleeped different rates. Everyone. It's a whole thing. Okay. Selena. Oh my God. Selena's titties. This was. This was the model. I mean, model, what I were losing our minds. We stood up to me. She won the fact, the night out of everyone. And we were also sitting next to Selena's boyfriend. And so. Yes. We were like, oh my God. Selena looks unbelievable. And we were sitting pretty close to her. So got to watch her the whole night. Like with that voluminous skirt, like kind of barely sitting in the seat. It was. This look is just fucking fantastic. And again, I have to like, there's no, okay. There's no way the timing does not work out. But the fact that she's wearing her ass's cake and it's ready to be eaten. And she recently popularized eat my ass faggot. Like, is this all? Oh, is this all on purpose? Oh my God. I can't tell. I don't think so. I think it's too. I mean, you can't make a garment that quickly. No, I think it was being. Oh my God. I didn't even connect. Eat my ass. I just thought it was the reveal of the cake, but that's so smart. I thought I, whatever. I was losing it all over the place. Yeah. Lucy. What do you think of Lucy Spooky Loki? I know this was great. And I thought it was very against type. Yeah. I thought it was really fucking cool. I thought it was Lucy being like, you say I'm not unique. Fuck you. I do. I mean, I don't think I've talked about the season yet on this podcast. I have an affinity for the theater queens who are maybe like a touch-bleed. Yes. Maybe it's because I have a personal triggered connection with anyone who's super tri-hard dramatic. Same. And then the mean girls are like, why are you getting all upset? We're not even bullying you. Like, if that's just very, as very things people have done to me. So I think Lucy was a touch-bleed throughout the season. So I was rooting for her, but then at one point I met her and I was like, oh, we're going to have a moment and like we didn't, but still love to her. Yeah. Love to her. She just, she had that unfortunate, the classic, the new like the, I guess I want to call it like the talent be damned at it. It's like, we don't care that you're talented. The show is here to torture you. Yeah. It's a little bit of a Jan vibe of someone who is just trying super hard and yes. And you see the effort and that's not a, I don't think that's a bad thing. And there's an effortlessness to the way that Lux and Mistress like, shade did her that I, I don't have that effortlessness. I don't have that like effortless high status insult level. I just spiral someone's making fun of me anyway. I'm with you. I'm with you. We don't have to say that these top four all look unbelievable and gorgeous. But we can talk more about what you were saying, this is when we were actually hot as a crowd. Yes. So this was all, this was all in a row. This was, there were breaks in between this runway. All of the queens came out in a row. The music didn't stop. I mean, something they didn't show, which I think is smart because it would have tipped the hand is when Sasha Colby came out, it was a resounding standing ovation. I'm not on Twitter anymore. So I think if I'd been on Twitter, I might have, have understood that she was the fan favorite, but you, the electricity when she came out, I was like, if Sasha doesn't win this. Yeah. That's actually going to be insane. It was fully the vibe in the room. It was like, to the point where I feel like a nitra herself was relieved. Like, like, you know, like, I really did feel like when especially, okay, we'll talk about that later, but when they crowned a nitra, it felt like she was living in that moment. Because she knew it was not going to be on TV. Ab, Ab, absolute total. It was interesting because they crowned her second. So Sasha was first and there was this thing of like, oh, this is the real winner. Yeah. And we announced her name first. Yeah. Yes. I, I totally. Yeah. And I think they're setting any drop for an unbelievable or oh, oh my God. It was just, it was so, it's so Sasha's year. So Sasha's moment and the crowd just lost their mind. It was just undeniable. It was undeniable. It would be a relief to lose this season to Sasha Colby. I mean, you can't take it personal. Well, cause otherwise if you win, it would be kind of like a, I think the outroer of the outroer, the uproar a little bit over the Lawrence Cheney versus Bimini on the UK. I don't think Lawrence Cheney had a good time winning. Like Lawrence Cheney left Twitter. No. Okay. So, so moving on. So now we're. I was honestly mistress did get a huge reaction to and she everyone else left. The stage in an efficient manner and she was out there for a while. Mistress won me over more in this. And I think mistress had a good season. I just, again, I'm, I'm triggered by people who thought she was a little tough. I've triggered by people who throw effortless shade. And then when you're like, you're insulting me, they're like, no, I'm not. You're just. Yeah. That I like. Right. That is, that's it's just a dagger. A dagger in the tin. I feel personally bullied. Um, but she was great in this episode and she's had great moments, great amazing fashion moments all season. You're so empathetic because I think like at truly as a country drag race fan, I was able to detach myself from the reality of it. But the reality is that that that would be hard to deal with while trying to compete in the drag race, like in the show. I think the other thing is that I, I regularly have dreams where I'm competing on drag race and I don't know if it's because I was a judge one time. I want that. Because I think it's like I see an affinity with the queens. I don't know. So I, I always in the back of my head, maybe because I'm a selfish only child, kind of picture myself, like what would it be like to actually be there and how incredibly high stakes and high pressure it would be. So I do feel a certain empathy being like, this is so, it's just having been in four years of production. I know how hard production is. Yeah, like the idea of like my worst moments in production, a camera being on my face too. Yeah, like we all have bad moments and what I be able, someone were like, I don't know, calling me like sensitive and overdramatic and I was on four hours of sleep. And this was the most high stakes thing I'd done in my career. Would I have like the best comeback? No. So maybe I empathize too much. I'm kind of always. I think you empathize. I also think, no, you're not. I think you empathize. And I also think like truly from my limited time being on the crazy girlfriend set, I saw how you like the Drag Race queens, like you really do, you did everything on that set. You know that it's not a secret, but like watching you do everything and bust your ass to do everything, like write a song, write a scene, direct talk to the choreographer. I mean, like you're kind of maybe it's because you've lived that life of putting yourself in everything. And it's you're right because on the set of crazy acts and this doesn't have to be about me. But it was doing a lot of things in a similar way that is asked of you on Drag Race. Yes. But the Drag Race schedule is harder and you are filmed every moment. So I guess that's why I really feel the adjata. Yeah. Um, and likewise like impressed when someone like Sasha Colby's like, yeah, I'm fine. Right. This is what I meant to do. I'm not cracking. Okay. Real quick. Silent Rachel. 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We filmed this a bunch of times I think for the Rue reveal so that they could get the screens. Uh, right. Right. Cause then she stepped out. Oh, oh, it's so that it dissolves. That's what it was. Yeah. It was like an appearance thing. Okay. Very cool. And the dancers are around her. This is later in the night. So we got to talk about this soon. We are down a dancer, which we'll talk about very soon. Yes. But okay. So what Rue Paul do in her thing? This is one of the only things they ran like three or four times. I think because of the screens. Yeah. I think just because that again, that dissolve, I'm now looking at it. That was a visual effect. Like there would have been, there would have been no way to make it look like Rue wasn't there. Right. And then suddenly she appeared. So they just filmed it once without Rue. Yeah. And then they filmed it another time without Rue and then had Rue come in. So that was a very subtle effect. It's a cool effect. Very subtle. It looks like it could be a lighting trick. Gorgeous love, Rue. And I got to say, it was so cool seeing Rue also run the room. Yes. We both loved that when she was just like casual, keeking, less light. There's a little bit too much light on my face. Oh my God. Rue. Yes. So in the similar way of watching Kelsey Gramer direct an episode for you. Rue, it's not like Rue is just the face of this thing and someone else is the mess. Right. No, no, no. Rue is running the show. Rue would say, okay, let's take that again. I flub that. Let's do that again. And then yeah, Rue on point said that light seems a little harsh. I feel it. Can you dial it back? And this is something Rue, I think knows exactly how she looks at any given moment. She knows her face so well. She knows exactly what lighting is going to look right. It was awesome. Mm hmm. Yeah. It was awesome. So obviously the crowd was hushed in between takes, but she had a levity to her and she was able to be like, hey girl, hey, everybody, I chapped. And like she was constantly just like saying hi and connecting and like keeping the mood somehow very playful, even though over a thousand people are silent as they, their jaw is a gape looking at Rue, run the show, you know? It was very cool. And I think her sisters were there. Yes. Her family was there. She kept looking at them and saying it's just like mom is living room. It's just like mom is living room. And you can tell that's how she's keeping down her inner saboteur, right? Yes. Is like she just tells herself it's no different than performing a mom is living room. And she kept, she was so casual and loose. Yeah. Yeah. And that is a great performance trick. I've, and I've weirdly thought of something, a similar thing when you're like, if you're scared, pretend the audience is your charmed uncles, like you're, you know what I mean? Like those people in your family that are already fucking charmed by you as a kid, it's a great trick. It's all about turning off your demon. I, I coached with this guy, Jack Plotnik, who's a great acting coach. And he talks about like your acting vulture. And it's like a vulture on your soul shoulder saying like, you're going to mess this up. And he's like, um, when you do an audition, pretend that you're already on set and they say, mano, oh my God, you've been doing such a great job. We have it. Let's just do one more take for fun. Pretend that every audition is that it's all about like lowering mistakes. And you can tell like, Oh, that's just like what Roo's doing. That's genius. That's, yeah, that's what she's doing. And I, you, you would hope at this, at this level of expertise, you are able to better do that. Um, she's the best. I can't believe she still does the show. It's, it's, it's, we talked about it. It is, I don't know, she'll ever not do it. I mean, it's in the height of it's more popular than ever. Yeah. I mean, look, I mean, but I mean, and I'm just, yeah, I'm here for it. She's the best at it. She's the best at it. She's fucking gaggy. We're watching a nature's package. Love it. Love, I love, I love the look they added to these packages. I want to say this is, I don't love a package in a finale, but these packages were pretty tight and pretty. We didn't, we didn't see these on the day. I know I'm sad we didn't cause it would have been a great way to honestly fill the downtime. I know. But I, they probably weren't ready yet, but I, I did love these. Love dumb, love the looks. I loved it. It was pretty tight. It wasn't overblown. I mean, and nature's looks are insane. This silver disco ball moment. The fork. The fork. All right. You better walk, you better walk that forking, Doug. Is that what that was thinking? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, look, she looks incredible. Now okay, let's get right into it. The a nature thing. So, okay. So, so we watch. You're going to blow your minds right now. Okay. So the sequence of the night I want to say is we see the queens come out, not Rue. Yes, not Rue. We see. See. And then. Then we did Leela and said, drag is a fight. Drag is a protest. They were in that a couple of times. Then there was the jinx number. Yes, which was amazing. And they did do that twice. Yes. So that we could get a camera on stage circling her face. Not because jinx messed up or anything. She nailed it. So then finally, so it's going slow. You know, it's at the TV taping, but finally it's, I don't know, maybe we're an hour and a half, two hours in. And I'm in the bathroom, but unbeknownst to me, they have started a nitrous final number. Yes. I hear some music. I come up from the bathroom. Something is stopped and I'm so focused on getting into my seat. And I do have, I believe, like a cup of water with me. I go into the seat and I say to Manos, so what's the haps? And Manos, like it's very serious right now, look on stage. And Mano, what has happened? So okay. So from my point of view, I'm like, Oh shit, Rachel's not here, whatever. They'll run this a couple of times, I think. So they started the number. There are six dancers in this number. And it's exactly as, you know, it's the Lotus song. She's doing pussy and each was doing some pussy, pussy shit, pussy shit. And she, I got to say what is crazy is like this edit doesn't capture it because she was fierce. She was like lion-like. She was like maybe too amped because she did a stunt that she did a stunt where she was around this sixth dancer who you'll see in some of the other footage, the sixth dancers was Cor and she wrapped her legs around his core and swung her body around his core so that then she, I kid so hard to explain so that then she could spin around and jump off and land. So like imagine legs hugged around a hot strong guy's core. She slings her body around, you know, while gripping her legs around his torso and then landed in like a cool crouched position. And she does it, but I think she, again, this is not her. This is, this was just an unfortunate thing. But when she does it, she went really hard and she lands it, but she, her dancer flings back and hits his knee and he is obedient. He went back. I think he, the force of it knocked him down to his knee. Like I think he was supposed to stabilize, but the force of it made him fall down to his knee and he is down. So like the number continues for a couple seconds, but the dancer is down on his back holding his knee while like Anitra keeps going and then it's like, hold, hold, hold, cut, stop, stop, stop. And then guys on the floor, they're trying to see if he's okay. It is quiet. It is unbelievably quiet in the theater because we all saw it and we, even though like they were like, maybe he'll become, maybe it'll be okay. Everyone who watched it knew like this guy's not okay. Like it might have been, he hit his knee hard. It might have been in ACL thing. I don't know, but that he hit his knee really fucking hard and he's down. The medic comes on stage. You were there for that though. So I, that's when I come in is I didn't know what was, I didn't notice what's happening on stage and you go look on stage and I see this dancers down with the medic attending to him and everyone is, it's very, very scary and very tense. He's okay. It's, it's, he's not in par, he's not in parrots his knee obviously. So then they close the curtains. Yeah. And they're like, maybe he'll recover. Let's go see if he'll recover. We'll close the curtains. Hold on a second. And so then there's, there's downtime while we are waiting. There's a lot of downtime. I want to say there's. It was a while. 40 minutes while they regrew 40 minutes. Yeah. Well, we were just like nothing. We don't know what's going to happen. Trivia, they were doing a lot of trivia. Yeah. Basic trivia. Come on. Some of them are quite, yeah. You're right. Yeah. Some of them were hard, but it was one of some of those, someone was like, go back to party city where you belong. Who said that? It was like, okay guys, guys, update the cards. Yeah. And then they're like, okay. Then like the producer, another producer comes out, someone who's like, you've been behind the scenes before that. And they're like, so we are down a dancer. And that means we're going to have to re-choreograph every single one of these numbers one at a time. Right. So, so what they say is basically we're working at a nature's number right now. And then we will do a queen's number. And then before every number, there will be a 10 to 20 minute gap where the dancers not only will be changing because it's the same dancers and every queen's number, but also they will be essentially re-choreographing the number to fit five dancers, which is, I can't imagine. And I mean, we didn't sign an ND. I don't think this is... I didn't sign a shit. I didn't sign anything. And I will say it's what's impressive about it is injuries happen. This is very common. Seeing a production of company where a dancer fell and was going to keep dancing. This was at NYU. This was on Broadway. Dancer fell. And I remember another person in the show was like, no, no, no. You sit down. I've seen too many injuries. You are sitting the rest of the show out. This happens. This happens in theater. This happens in dance. But the idea of the night couldn't be more high stakes. And so just know that every number you're watching was re- was somewhat re-choreographed ten minutes before you saw it. And I find it very impressive. Very blowing blew me away that then they were all as good as they were. Because yeah, they are down a dancer who was there like their stunt dancer or like the strength guy. The guy who was going to help with the lips and the guy who was clearly like that the position player to do like the really hard strength driven stuff like lifts and stuff like that. And they still did it without him. God bless. But I was blown away that they did that. And I mean, again, it was kudos to all of these top four girls because like to deal with that on top of you're already nervous. You're already scared. You already are trying to get through the nerves of how you've properly rehearsed this. And then they're like, guess what? One dancers down were changing it right now. And you have to do it. And they only did everyone. I got to say this again. Everyone did it once. No one did it twice. I know. And I wonder is that part of the competition that you're not allowed to that it's like, no, you just get one time to do your number or they were all just so prepared. Yeah. That it was fine. I mean, it's stunning that they had to redo these numbers. And Mona, you were saying the moment that was the lift was where she goes down into the splits in a nitrous song, right? Yes, correct. The moment that did have that original stunt was now like the her dropping into a split. And I still think she did great, but I feel I feel sad and I feel bad because she really wasn't at as full force as she was in the original take, which of course not. She's dealing, I could only, I'm in my heartbreak because like I'm sure she was feeling a bit of guilt and a bit of like also just nerves of like, Oh yeah, what's the new thing we did? What's the new thing we did? While she was on the dancer when he when he felt like it's jar, it's jarring and like, yeah. I hope that dancers okay. Me too. You see him in one thing because he dances in the Leland number because that was filmed before this. So in that in that number, you'll see six dancers. Anyway, I just thought that was interesting and crazy. Having said that, do did you like a nitrous number? Oh, I did. I thought it was really good. Also, really like the context in the package that I wish I'd known watching it, which is why Lotus and the idea that a Lotus to grow has to go through the mud. That's incredibly powerful. I wish there would have been a way to like put that in the song in like a monomer form because there was a part that's like, Oh, load it interesting. Yeah. Why? And that gave it, that gave it more, it gave it more context, but like. Yes. And she was so lovely in the room. She had this dorky, like, oh, she has this like dorky non seriousness. And yet she's also the fiercest bitch in the room. It's quite, she's quite an amazing queen. She's fantastic. So these interviews were way later in the night. And so we have to say it's TV taping. This is par for the course of a TV taping. I think the main reason they don't serve food and drink is just so people won't be constantly getting up. Right. So you don't want, when you do a crowd pan over, you don't want to see empty seats. Right. And if people are constantly walking in and out to get food and drink, that's going to make the seats, especially for a night as long as this, that's going to make the seats very empty. So, so, but we're there a long time, especially because there's an injured dancer. There is no food. We are starving. We have under eaten. Everyone has under eaten. Everyone is getting riled up. Because like occasionally they were leaving snacks out like they were without telling anyone because they don't have enough snacks for everyone. They were just sort of doing this weird thing of like mysteriously leaving snacks on the bar and then whoever found them found them. If you found a snack and we were in the quote unquote, you know, the VIP section or whatever, they threw us some cheese. It's occasionally, but there was no secret in we had to food to food. And the moment that I ate, who gave me? Oh, was it every boy or Chapman? No, I think was it hardy? Hardy was in front of us. So no, I was in the hall. I want to say it was crystal method gave me. It was crystal method. Half of a Twix left. It was like it was like we were in prison. Suddenly I was like, I'm starving. There are no snacks. I was like, I've had a twist. You want the last half? And I was like, bless you. Bless your heart. And then I split that with mono. Yes. You were so kind. It really passed along the blessings. And yeah, because we were like so hungry and I was like, we can't leave. They won't let us back in. Some people were leaving because they were like, I don't care. I'm hungry. Yes. Oh, yeah. And that was a really funny part. And thankfully afterwards, we got our burrito and such. My mind, mine was really good. How was yours? Oh, it was so good. Well, I got the quesadilla and then a couple tacos and it was a real party. It was really good. Oh, God. I had never been. I'd rarely been that hungry. And we were joking with Alkmab, where it's like, you think you kids have it hard. You were not the finale of RuPaul's Drag Race. At RuPaul's Drag Race, we had Batte Krum. And if you got it, she's it. You were lucky. Only our three second appearances were able to feed us. And that was enough for us. Lux's package and performance. Lux, amazing. I love her big, weird head. This big, weird head moment. I love her fashion. Yes, so funny. And hot take. I thought her number was the second best of the top four. I really liked the hook. Yes. I really, really, and Lux is a songwriter. So I really, really thought that chorus was quite hooky. Yeah. It was Jean. I feel comfortable saying this because Jean, my husband, you like you, writes music. And he felt it was simply the best written piece of music. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah. Catchy, fun. I love the reveal. She really blew me away on the finale. I was, if they just went on performance, I probably would have put her in the top two. But I understand it was a tough competition with these murderers row of a top four. Yeah. And I mean, I know you and I both suspect that Lux and Mistress, when they came out on stage, knew that they weren't in the top two. Right. I feel like they've been worn just so that they don't crumble in front of an audience. Yeah. I will say for the rest of the night, they didn't really capture it. There are actually a lot of looks of Mistress being very gracious, but Mistress was not happy. Oh, I think she looks pissed in the footage, but I don't know what that, what the, I can't tell if that's because I remember it. Or if the viewers at home could be like, oh, yeah, she looks pissed. She was pissed. I didn't think she looked that pissed in the footage, but in the moment, I was like, oh, she's mad, really mad. I get it because on the one hand, like, was she ever been? Okay. Okay. Look, they were all once a nitro and Sasha lip sync. They knew we were leading back to that moment. Everyone knew it. But having said that Mistress's reaction from the audience was absolutely electric. And I see how she was like, I am a fan favorite. I am such a fan favorite. I could be in this top two. You know? I, it was a possibility. Definitely my head. I was like, this might, this might happen. It just felt going into this finale. It's just going to be Sasha and a nitro and like, yeah, I just don't know. I don't know a world. I don't know. Is there a world in which anyone could have surpassed them like you wanted to see that lip sync. That was it. That was always going to be the lip sync. And we, we knew it. We knew it. We knew it. We didn't talk about the rest of the gags, but we did that. Silence rage. I feel like taking a break. Bring back my break. Oh, I just like at the Drag Race finale, I've eaten a small cup of dehydrated coconut flakes. And I am reinvigorated. That was the saddest snack that we, that we got. That was, that was, that felt like a real punch in the dick. But look, I look what, and once the snacks came, there were plenty of people who were like being skinny and being like, oh, nothing you. But not, not us. We were like, I was covered in crumbs and I was actually very afraid you were going to cap the, the camera was going to capture the Cheezits in my hand. Luckily they didn't. And, and it's not like we were super featured. But I, I was eating throughout the rest of the night. I was just eating. Me too. M&Ms, Cheezits, some sort of popcorn. I, I, oh, some sort of cheese balls. I was really hogging out. It was, it was like a hard Soviet winter. Look, Bob Mackie moment got blessed. What a treasure. He was adorable. And I would smash. Okay. I really would. I, I guess I have a, a granddaddy thing. I'm looking for a gilf these days. And there's something about a polished, older queer man that I live for. Sure. Um, smash. I just be afraid you'd literally smash him. I do think. Yeah. I do think. But I would, I would let him gingerly insert, enter me just gin. That's a ginger topping. I feel like. Ginger for you or ginger for him. I feel like he would gingerly top me. Just kind of, just kind of very carefully insert his penis into me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like, yep. Yeah. Just kind of just like, just like a, a mini sliding into a large parking spot, you know, like a mini Cooper. Just, I'd be happy for it. Um, you know, sometimes age adds length to the penis. So who knows maybe. Really? Yes. Yes. Um, I mean, that's just gravity, but it's just gravity stretching a dog out. I never knew that. Yeah. It's a fun fact. Oh, cause your bone sag. So like your penis sags. Yeah. Gravity does its work, but I don't know. Does that affect it when it gets hot? Like it doesn't get big. Like when it gets hard, I don't think so. I just wanted to say the most vulgar thing I could imagine. And I, and I, I did. One time I saw my grandpa naked and you're making me fit. Yeah. Yeah. I saw my grandpa naked once too. And it kind of traummed me. Yeah. It's kind of, it's kind of burning my brain and like, I remember walking, I was really young and I was sleeping over there. I was like, pass by and his pants were down and he went, whoops. Yeah. Fuck. And I remember seeing my grandma naked and not understanding what I was looking at. Do you know what I mean? Like genuinely like, genuinely being like, oh, that's a body. Like I didn't know what I was looking at. And I was like, that's a body. Had you seen another woman naked? Another, have you seen other women naked? Yes. Okay. Yes. But I just. Oh, that's a body. Okay. Okay. Mistress. No, we're not exposed as kids to anything less than like perfect. The idea of perfect bodies. So anything that we see that's not what we think is bizarre and someone gave my daughter this book called bodies are cool. Oh, I love this. It's a book all about body positivity that shows clothes adults and clothes kids like with all different types of bodies with stretch marks, bodies that are heavier, bodies that are skinnier, they're amputees and it's like bodies are cool. Here's this type of body, but bodies are cool and it's so powerful. I fucking love that. I love it so much. I would have loved to have had that as a kid because that would have helped. I, because I definitely, and I feel like in 90s, it was just like, you're this way and one day you'll grow up to be Pamela Anderson. You know, it was just like that was the understood assumption. You just did. You don't see normal people naked. I mean, I think certain types of amateur porn are more indicative of what the world really looks like than most mainstream TV and film. Yeah. Yeah. And so show your kids amateur porn. I'm kidding. What I'm saying is this mistress package was also really ginger and touching because it's like it was nice to be emotional. It was nice to be here to say like people come up to me who look like me and her like, I didn't know I could be as powerful as you are. And I thought that was really, really cool to be like, yeah, like mistress is a thick, juicy, Latinx queer person. And it's just like to see her possess that much power is like really amazing for like another big person to be like, I can have that much power if I choose to. Totally. And she's had such a rough go just hearing her stories. And that's why I don't want to like carp too much. I'm like, Oh, Lucy was bullied because everyone has their shit. It's a high pressure set. And she's a great, she's great at what she does, mistress. She's great at what she does. And I loved her number a lot. Again, really fun in the room. The lift was a huge moment when they did the split lift with her. It was fantastic. I mean, frankly, you know, it was, I didn't think she would be in the top two based on this, but I fucking love her and I can't wait to see her dominate the stage. Another season of drag race. I'm obsessed with her. It will be fun for her to hopefully come back. I love this ending with the syringes. That was like, I love the theme. I love a good theme. Awesome. Yeah. She was awesome. That reveal really killed in the room. Oh, yeah, I didn't hear it. But like in the room where she took off her coat and she had the assless skirt. Like that was huge. Like that was a huge moment. Yeah. Um, lover, lover, lover, she dominates. Um, she's so fucking funny. She also dominant. There's a crowning video you have to watch because they did the live crowning of them. Oh, yeah. And it is, it is delightful and funny and it's great to see Sasha get emotional, but it's also just, she is so funny. Like when, when they announce Sasha and each are the top two, she like freaks out in a very comedic way. Mistress? Yes. That's great. It's so funny. As if she didn't know, it's amazing. Um, okay. Great. Should we move on to Sasha's? Oh, Ross is one liner. There's Sasha's that was funny because there were some one liners he got in there that they didn't air and it was just funny to every time see Ross, Ross do his Ross thing and be like, you didn't steal. You didn't show up. You still stole the show. It was like you didn't show up. You showed off. Yes. That was one. I was like Ross. It sounds like it's going to be a read, but it's actually just a nice thing to say. Yeah. It was not, that Ross is usual caliber. I was like, Ross, come on. Come on. Okay. Sasha's number. I mean, what can we say? You can't under, you just can't understate when the second she came out, she was, you know, we were really tired. Yes. But like the second she came out is that fucking snake. You better walk that fucking snake. Yes. We, we lost our, like it just, we lost our mind. No one sat down for a second. No one sat down for a second. The moment, the tongue thing, we were all just, our minds were blown. Yes. We were horny. We were happy. We were laughing. We, it was truly like being in the presence of a Greek goddess. I mean, it was crazy and undeniable. It was just like, and I feel like that came across in, even in the filming, you know, watching it with people too. They were like just looking at each other like it's over. It's over. And it kind of was. I would love to know where, how much input they had in each of their numbers. Cause this, this hairography was unbelievable. I would love to know, and I'm sure that was factored into who won is, is these are big production numbers that they had. I'm sure a long time to prep. So how much input did they have in the writing of their song? How much input did they have in the choreography? How much input did they have in the costume? Cause this is brilliant. This is brilliant. And I also got to say, I mean, what's, what's also bad news for the girls is this skill is literally what Sasha Colby has been doing for over a decade. Like doing pageant style dance numbers for an audience, you know? So it's like this challenge, if you will, is the one she actually has the most expertise at. So they're doomed. Do you know what's also a little depressing is so Sasha Colby like, oh, the mother, she's your favorite drag queen, save a drag queen. And I looked, I looked it up and I'm like, oh, how old is Sasha Colby? Everyone's like, oh, she's like, huh? She's 37. Yeah. Yeah. My age, my age. I know. She's our, I'm 36. She's like, oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's happening. It's happening. I guess I'm okay. Another. Yeah. Last night we were watching, this is so stupid. We were being down and watching step brothers and we were like, oh yeah, we'll fair all, we'll fair all in John C. Riley look a mess. And we were like, I think they're exactly our age in this. You know, you know, when they're like being comically old, weird boy men, it's like, oh, they're like our age. They're our age. But also you see people hitting at age in their early 40s now, like, I don't know. It's, I mean, it's not, it's not across the board world, but not in the world of drag. We're anxious for her to be like the mother of everyone. And she's our age. Yes. Um, is like to know that Sasha Colby could have been in, in my high school class. Yeah. Is weird. Her timing is perfect. I mean, look, she's earned it. She's like, she's amazing. She's amazing. And it is that sweet spot of like, thank God she got this crown because she's deserving of it. And like, I maybe she'll be doing this for another decade, but like my God, it's like the level of drag experience and straight up my body can still do crazy shit. There's like a, there's like a crossover. There's like a Venn diagram where you can be hell experienced and your body can still do these insane things that make us gag the way many young performers can. I'm going to, right after someone to work out and then work. I've been before every show that I've been doing lately. I've been working my splits. Oh, okay. I'm getting close to a full split again. Um, and I, I think if there is a writer's strike, maybe one of my goals over the strike will be learn how to do the like a neutral, like, whooh, into his. Oh my God. Do you think you could? I would, I would live. I'd have to really, I mean, a big goal would be to learn how to do a death drop, but I don't even know the mechanics of that. Yeah. I don't even, I don't know how you do that without the most dangerous part to hit on your head is the back of your head. Yeah. Like when I was, I was on the show reboot with Johnny Knoxville and, and Johnny was saying, uh, the only thing that's they would. I miss it. The, huh? I miss reboot. It was amazing. But he was saying on jackets, the only thing they really try to really, really avoid is, uh, hitting the back of your head. Cause that, that can kill you. So I don't understand how a death drop doesn't kill you. Cause it looks like you hit the back of your head. I hate. Hence death drop. Yes. Anyway, yeah. Well, work on that and do you say a strong vote? Yes. Um, yes. Look, this is us, not me, not swaying you swaying. Oh, oh wait, go back. Sorry. We're just watching it. I will. That moment is really funny. Again, I just can't. Okay. Oh my God. If you're watching this, I'm wow, presents 40, 20, 40, 24. You see me swaying my hands. I can't. Oh, and Mona, you're laughing at me. I, I am like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was like, Rachel, what are you doing? Rachel, what are you doing? I couldn't believe that. I was like Rachel, you're a creator of a TV show. Why are you doing what these, these people are trying to make you? Because I am an unpaid extra on this show and I want to do my part and I want to be hired again for unpaid background on RuPaul's track. I, I, I, I really want to go again. I will, but we'll see if it happens. I want to go again. You'd go back. I bring snacks. I would, I would just bring good snacks and, and definitely eat weed. I made, it was just that thing where like we, we, we just had your birthday party the night before. So like I was like just like still like not ready to like party again after that. But my God, I wish I was maybe a little high or a little drunk or something. I know I was hungover, but also the, in two days I had another one of my shows and we really fucks up my voice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But next time, oh, look at there's us again. Sorry. I know I was, well, it's also hard to find us because Cara, Dillevene and I are wearing basically the same outfit. Yes. So every time I think it's me, it's her and they show her more because she's more famous, which is understandable. Yes. But I did not mean to match with her. I love that you, you both look sick. Me, your hair was fucking quaffed. I just straightened myself and I got to say now on the far right. Oh, really? Yeah. I thought you were something. Okay. Got to say you can see the sixth dancer on the far right of the wig loose number. Oh, yeah. Poor gentleman. Strong gentleman. I hope he's recovering. Oh, knee stuff is so, oh, that's the worst. I know it's important. God bless. This was actually a really, look, I think the song is well written. You go, Leland. And assume it, assume it, um, orville Peck who doesn't, it's interesting. Everyone knows his real name, but he still won't, like he's been on, I think the West End, but he still won't show his face. Right. So I don't know. And what did he do during COVID? Cause he's covering his like eyes. So did he wear a mask under the eye? I think so. I don't know what his deal was, but you can find his face online. I hate to tell you. It's easy to find. I'm sure. He's a sexy man. I got to say he's a very sexy man. His voice is like a Johnny Cash Roy Orbison beautiful bass. Yeah. So Willow Pill love her, her crowning look. What do you think of her crowning look and her flicking us all off in the audience? Amazing. And I, but I'm also worried because she, her main speech was like, it's been a really tough year for me. And I'm like, Oh, no, I don't know what happened. Um, I know. I wonder what I want to say that though. Like if the America's drag superstar can have a terrible year, it's okay for. You to have a terrible year. I thought that was really beautiful. And I'm so glad she said that. Like that's really nice for anyone to hear. Like I'm the, I'm a winner and you can struggle too. It's like that's nice. That's powerful. Yeah. Yeah. I hope her health as well. Um, she looks like. I know. That's what I think about. Yeah. She looks amazing. She's so cool. She's so funny. Corn snack came out and did a rap for Miss Congeniality. That was hard to decipher on the day. I was wondering why they put the captions. I'm glad they put the captions in. It's a very fast rap. Um, yeah, it's a fast rap. I'm glad they. It was cool. I'm glad they put it in. I watched this. I made my daughter watch this with me. I was trying to get her to watch the whole finale and then she just said, no, muppet babies, but I made her watch this. And she's like, is that a lion? He said, no, no, no. This is cornybridge. She's dressed as a lion. And then she thinks about it for when she goes, I like her. So three year old, she's corny. You have the three year old seal of approval. Corn bread, cornbread, amazing and fun and likable. And yeah, drag is fun for everyone. Oh, and then at the end, uh, she was, my daughter was looking at everyone on stage. She went, are these Disney characters? Yeah. It's just Disney and I said, no, no, but then she goes, they look like Disney princesses. They're so pretty. And I was like, yes, they're pretty exactly. I mean, I would rant about. I love this now. All I want to do is see the drizzella. What's the other sister's name? Drizzella and. Oh, um, anastasia with that, that movie starring sugar and spice. I don't, I don't think they have. I don't think they can remember. No, they can't remember a line to save their life. I mean, sugar and they show it during the number. Sugar is not lip syncing. I was laughing so hard. It's a, it is a choice. She's just like, no, I'm not going to sing. I was laughing so hard when she refused to lip sync and she's on camera and she doesn't care. I think she's like, I'm just going to look moving my face right now will make me look less hot potentially. So she's like, no. Yeah, I would not have given congeniality to Malaysia. Sorry. I would have given it to spice or both sugar and spice. I would have given it to Sasha Colby, but I guess you can't give Miss Congeniality to one of the top two. It feels like you can't vote for one of the top four or something. I can't tell. But then again, some people say they voted for mistress. I don't get it. Um, mistress? I know, right? I don't know. I don't know. Miss Congeniality is a crap shoot, but I just thought spice would be a funnier. Sorry. Also for next year, handing it over, spice is a funnier choice. Just to be like, see her trot out and hand over Miss Congeniality next year. Yeah, that's true. Okay. This was really powerful. Jinx's, Jinx's song. Well, I'm so bummed that I missed her on Broadway. So to be able to actually see her big number here was just such a thrill. Thrilling. Wonderful. Oh. Moving chills. I mean, I was so glad you were there. I mean, frankly, of anyone, I was like horny that you were there to witness this moment. One of the great Broadway numbers sung by one of the great Broadway drag queens. Yeah. I mean, it was made for me. Happy birthday to me. It was a big and it was your birthday weekend. It was my birthday weekend. It was amazing. I just wonderful. She's a genius. She's cute. And then she had the room moment and she went even longer a little bit than we obviously got to see. And it was so cute to see her pour a little bit of her heart out and say, thank you, Roo, for changing my life. And like now I am a Broadway performer. Yeah. That was a beautiful full circle moment. She's so fucking talented. She's amazing. She's an artist. You know, I mean that so purely. It's like there are a lot of great drag queens. Jynx Monsoon is an artist. Yeah. Lover, lover. And really all we have left to talk about is that finale lip sync, which we were there for not going wood. So the lip sync, I have to say, the Moer Sasha Colby took the wire out of her bodice for a second. I was very afraid it was going to be some sort of wardrobe fail. Yes. It wasn't going to work. Yes. But it happened to work just on the moment. And they kind of gloss over it a little bit in the edit. Like you don't quite, you don't quite, there is a moment where it almost looks like it's not going to work. And then it does. Yes. And it was a myth and it was like, thank God. Because in that moment I was like, oh my God, is she going to lose this? Right. With a wardrobe. And then it worked. And then she turned around, oh my God, sorry, you're right behind. Yeah. Don't fuck it up. You're so. There we are. Literally, Alec Mappa is like literally, he's literally, he's literally, he's literally angling into the shot. And he's like, literally saying, you bitch, you're in the shot. And I'm telling him, Alec, I don't care. Stop talking to me. Yes. So yes, that is an important part of it of like even getting out of this giant beast jacket, this, you know, it was nerve wracking because it was like, everything was just barely on the beat where it was like, okay, oh, she's going to hit the, she's going to hit her next marks and hit her next mark. So yeah, the dress pull up was stressful. But then she turning your own coat into your own bear skin rug to then dance on is fucking brilliant. Yeah. And they don't because they're going between her and nature on the Senate, but you have to understand that like for the final part of the song, she's just writhing on this bear skin rug of her own making. Yes. She basically made her costume her own set. It was awesome. It was incredible. It was awesome. I really wish I could watch just the full screen of both, which we did. But even being in the room, it was hard to know who to focus on. Yes. But yeah, oh yeah, the hair bundles. I mean, sure was great. Her body. Her body's fine. I mean, yes. I, I, I made it. The body. I love her body and then it makes me feel like, Oh God, I got to work out more. I mean, she had work done. She's not done and she's not shy about it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I could I ever get that ass. Yeah, you could. I think so. You could because I mean, look, all tea, no shade. I think that ass is, I don't know. It's, it's pumped with either her own juicy fat or some, some robots, but whatever it is, it's beautiful. Yeah, I'd like to meet myself in a world where I really work out every day and what I look like. Totally. But that's what's so weird is like, I, I, what I hate about working out is that you just do it and you like love, like you just do it and you're supposed to focus on the strength and you're supposed to focus on your health. And then like the results are supposed to just be like tangential to like the self improvement you're doing. And I've never been able to, I'm trying really hard to master that like positive, normal, healthy attitude on it. Oh, the idea of like, no, no, no, no, truly work out just for the joy of exercise and moving your body and appreciating your body. That's really hard to learn. Really hard. It's really, really like, no, I'm looking at my Fitbit to see if I'm burning the cardio because that means burning fat. I don't know. I'm in, I'm definitely in a journey with my body and, and my looks and I don't know. It's the Patriot. I'm with you. It's the patriarchy. I am fully with you. It's the biggest thing I work on in therapy is like literally like being able to look in a mirror and like continue to give myself positive messages even when that voice really wants to not give me positive messages. And it's fucking hard. It's fucking hard, especially when you're working out, working out feels close to mental unwellness because it's just what's crazier than being like, I have a weight. I lift it. I lift it. I lift it. Like that feels to me like the definition of mental unwellness is just like, what am I doing? What am I doing? And it would be so funny to our ancestors because they'd be like, yeah, that's just a day in the life. You lift the bricks. Yes. Put down the bricks. Why are you making yourself do this? You have a life of leisure where you can just like sit around and be fat. Fully. Yeah. That sounds wonderful. But yeah, I've been thinking there's this book called The Beauty Myth. I've been thinking about a lot that talks about the Dove Real Beauty ad campaign and this site. And being an example of this idea of like everyone's beautiful, you're beautiful and that being taken up by like various makeup, all of these companies, right? They're like, anyone is beautiful. You can be beautiful. But the beauty myth argues like, no, no, no, the real feminist thing is to be like, so what if you're not beautiful? What does beautiful even mean? That's a standard of kind of the patriarchy. Not everyone's going to be hot. Not everyone's going to be beautiful. And that's okay. That's only one quality. But we for whatever reason, prize outer beauty. Yeah. The inner beauty stuff, when it's done by any cosmetics company, it's bullshit. They want to sell you makeup. So it's like, yeah. Bring your inner beauty on the outside. And buy our shit. Or you could just like Francis McDormand it and not wear makeup ever. Yeah. And like not care. Yeah. And I'm torn. I don't know because I love putting on makeup and I love looking hot and it's, I don't know. I don't know. I have an answer. It's just that book. It made me really think about. Yeah. Beauty. And maybe that's what's weird. What's weird and I truly am not trying to wrap it around, but it is like drag. And like I think like a weird cool thing about drag is like we all participate in it. And part of it is being like, I love myself without this. And I can love myself with this. I can love myself with this big beautiful makeup mask on and have fun and live that fantasy. And I can take it off and still love the same person. Like, and that's easier said than done. Um, because both are you. Like both are you, both are a cool part of you. Both are why you're lovable. You know what I mean? Like the parts of me, they're like, I'm gross and blah, blah, blah, whatever. Those parts are so lovable about me too, because that's where my comedy comes from. That's where my ability to connect with people comes from. That's where my empathy comes from. And it's like trying to love them both. It's hard. It is. And I think drag is a really interesting example of the way often to get in touch with yourself and to love yourself more is to put on a lot of makeup because that's more you than the you you are. And I, yeah. And we're also very lucky that we have supportive partners because like I've recently, like, you know, obviously I'm, I'm, we both have, we both have some interesting, I think it's the influence of our family because, you know, like sometimes I'll catch myself saying something like, um, let's say I'm baiting my partner to say something nice about my appearance. And I know I'm doing it and I can't stop it, but I'm doing it. And then Jean is nice enough to say like, we like I look different, you know, and he's like, we all look different. You know what I mean? Like we've been together seven years. We all look different than we did seven years ago. And like that's a fact and that doesn't mean you can get less love. Gregor and I have been together 15 years. Yeah. And there was one time we were on vacation and it was some activity was like snorkeling where there was like part of the package was like a video. And so, and then you watch it after. And so it's a video of yourself in a swimsuit. And we watched this video and then I remember we're at lunch. This is like beautiful hotel in Tahiti. And we're both really depressed because we've seen our bodies unvarnished and bathing suits and I, and I looked at them and I went, thank you for fucking me. And I looked at that and that's when I was a size or two smaller than I am now. I've never been ripped even when I was a size like two, four. I wasn't. I still had like a belly like a normal belly. And yes, having a partner who, yes, we're very, we're very, very lucky people. We're very lucky. And but I think what's the we what the weird thing is like you can feel the way we're feeling whether you're partnered or not. I just want to share like you can feel the way we're feeling and still find someone who elevates your worth. You know what I mean? Like truly like I was still this insecure person when I met Jean and I was able to be with someone who says like I know you feel that way and it's okay. Like I can make you, I can make you feel, you know what I mean? I can help you feel better about that or like having those self-esteem issues doesn't make your worth any less. Yes. Yeah, someone who really understands where you're coming from and validate you and doesn't go, oh my God, stop talking about this. I'm tired of you talking about this. That's I find that a lot of the kind of old tropes about being in a long term relationship it's like, and I guess I'm talking about like hacky standup bits. Some of them are true, but also some of them are, oh no, that's a that's not a good, you're not in a good validating relationship. I don't know, we should have, we should just have a podcast where we could talk about our relationships. We could talk forever, and I'm glad we're talking. And while we're talking, we get to watch our rightful queen, Sasha Colby take this goddamn crown. I really got to see her perform. We got to see her. I've never seen her live. I saw her live in the before time. Amazing. Amazing. I'd love to see her, it'll be fucking hard to get her to see her, but we got to do it. We got to do it. No, no if fans are butts. Do you think she's got a tour, right? Absolutely. The queens like usually do a season, they do like a season 15 tour and then some of them will go to the Vegas show. Yeah, she'll probably be on work of the world, which is like the Voss event tour, which is the tour that. Oh, yes, yes, yes. She'll probably be on work. I went to, I went to during COVID. I went to the one where you, it was the drive in where you sit, we sat in your cars. It was really cool. It was fucking fun. Yeah, we got to go to the, I've been to the theater shows too. They're amazing. They're, they're really amazing. So we got to go to that when it comes around our part of town. I'm sure she'll be in it. They always have some of the top girls in there. I also kind of want to go to Vegas just to see the Vegas show. Oh my God, let's go. Have you seen it? We have, but I want to go back because the girls always change. Like the cast is completely different than the last time I saw it. That would be so fun. Look, cause I've, I haven't done like a Vegas trip just for me in a long time. Let's do it. Oh, he did. Just for me. Let's do it. It's dumb. We even say it at the flamingo, which was equal parts disgusting and thrilling. Oh, yeah. The food is dog shit. The food is dog shit. Okay. So where can we support you and follow you? Um, you can just check my Instagram, the website. You have to have show coming up. So I do have a touring, it's a, it's a touring show, touring ish. It's not like on a tour bus or anything, but I have a show called death let me do my special. It's my new solo show. That's kind of stand up meets music meets storytelling meets a one act play that I'm taking around. I'm doing it periodically in LA. Yes. Doing these coast. I think I should have some Chicago dates still open. I'm going to London. There's still some London dates open and more dates to come, but it's been an absolute joy. So check that out. Oh, that's so fucking cool. That's so fun. You're going to London. Pip, Pip, Pip and Cheerio. If you like dragger podcast, follow us at dragger podcast on Instagram and give us five stars on the Apple podcast like this genius, Marco Eflaca. It says the best friend of me is in the business. I love you guys so, so much. Thank you for cutting it up with the best of them. Thank you for giving us five stars. We live. I mean, I could listen to you and Oscar hate each other forever. And there are numerous places to listen to that and it's still not enough. Oh, it's so exciting. And I mean, the show sold out but come next week to Bad Drag Race. I have the pleasure of hosting it with the Bendala Creme who we weirdly got connected all together through Bendala and it's going to be really fun to host our disgusting drag with one of the best drag queens on earth. It's so great. And I connect with Della because I heard him on your on your on your on. I was like and I realized, oh, guys, now, and I just reached out and then we started hanging out and it's the best. He's the best. He's the greatest person. That's the 21st. Come if you want. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. Okay. Till next time, everybody. Let the music play. Yeah. okay. till next time, everybody. let the music play. That was a hit them original. ♪♪♪♪ ♪♪♪♪