S15 - The Crystal Ball (w/ Mano Agapion & Parvesh Cheena)

This is a headgum original. ♪♪♪ ♪ Screw a lot to blame some shade ♪ ♪ Keep keep keep with the gaze ♪ ♪ It's time to drag her ♪ ♪ Time to drag her ♪ ♪ Drag her ♪ ♪ Drag her ♪ ♪ Drag her ♪ Oh, shit! Oh, my goodness gracious! Good gay to you and yours! I'm mono-gapian-ler. You're listening to Drag her. The one and only RuPaul's Drag Race Recap podcast in the whole world. I am so honored to have our guest here. I mean, actor, comedian, writer, just a general genius and good-time gal. We have... Parvesh, Gina! Oh, I'm a genius? I'm a good-time gal. I love it. You say your full name Parvesh. I do. I always call you Parv, though, because I'm just like, everyone calls you Parv. I love Parv, also, because it's very easy, and it's very like political slogan. Like, Parvesh, or press. Yeah, Parvesh, or that came from Middle School. Did you ever run? Did you run? Did you win? Yeah, I won. Fuck! I love that. I'm so jealous. I was the brown popular gay-ish. You know, like, how you didn't... What's gay in 1994? We didn't know. They just knew you were fine. Right, and they knew I was Indian. You know, that's ethnic and different enough. That's not ethnic-y stuff until 2001. New York Funky. Yeah, you're just fun and different. I love that. Before we started, I immediately had to scream at you because you were asking me if my name is Mano or Mon... Right. And I was like, well, yes. I, in college, hung out with the Bongra Elite so much. The Bongra Dancing Team at my college, and... Oh, man. The stories of... The stories of good time browns in college I've had with you. I... The one thing I need to share with you that makes me laugh so... That always makes me laugh and is... There is nothing like... And I'm sure you experienced this... Experience this. In Indian freshman gal getting drunk for the first time. Oh! Can we talk about it? I know those girls. I'm from the University of Illinois for Banish Ampey in my freshman year because I wanted to get the fuck away from my family. Even though my grandparents, my aunt was visiting from India and my mom and dad all dropped me off at U of I, or Banish Ampey in. And literally that night we were at a Sigma Nu or Sigma Kai frat party. I had a beer in my hand. So I was that Indian American gal who was like, Freshman, let's drink. Where Priya and Priya my other like Indian American gal house. Yeah, yeah. Who made it. And you are absolutely right because forget about the... Let's add the Indian, the minority shit on it. You know, especially first gen immigrants. Yeah. We haven't been here for three or four generations. At this point, you know, we hadn't been. And so we... And then you add the college stuff. You add that America is like the last modern country that has a 21 year old drinking rate. So we already have it as a verbotan taboo thing. Like, yeah, college is part of... You also have to drink every other night. Yeah. You know, like, it's that kind of thing. Yeah. So yes, I totally understand that. Like, because it is that first taste of freedom. And had we had like a 19 and over, like Canada. Right. I don't think we'd have as much. Yeah, I wouldn't have as much drinking issues. No. Or it would. A little lesser. If it's not a big thing. It's like when you rip that bandit off, it goes so hard. Whereas like, if maybe some of these people like had a chance to, I don't know, sip a drink in high school. Like maybe then it wouldn't be like this all out wild thing. But I have very funny memories of Seethu who got too drunk at my house. And we love her, poor Seethu Shah. And she got too drunk. And so at the point where like people had to carry her down some stairs. Yeah. And she was wearing too sexy up a top. So she's blacked out while the top is sliding off of her. And everyone is trying to elegantly put it back on her. But we can't because she is in a blackout. Yes. Good times. If you're listening, Anish, Anish, good times. Remember that? See, the thing is we do Indians, South Asians have the Asian gene. Uh huh. You know, we should not be drinking the Europeans whiskey in Scotch. Like when we go to India to visit relatives, like not just duty free. We would also like wrap like bottles of like Glen Fidditch and Glen Livitt for like uncles and grandparents because it was just cheaper here. And then you think back and I'm like, fuck, the Punjabi drink of choice is a Scotch or a British, I mean, like talk about the oppressors. They use alcohol to, you know, for the indigenous in this country. And it's fascinating, like what drugs are used to colonizing our taste buds. It's true. It's what you're right in front of my salad. Come on. Hey, I've got my weed right here, like cannabis. Indians invented it. Oh, they are good. Wait, that's another funny archetype. Do you know, this is not an archetype as much as I know someone who was the biggest donor in the world and like true hot, hot, hot, hot mess. Um, Brish, I'm talking about you and then flipped it around and became a doctor in like 12 months. Yeah. Like it's party hard and then work harder. Yeah. That was that kind of mentality. And it's this still this element of puritanical British upbringing that's put upon us a lot. Yeah. I know a lot of my relatives and they're lazy. They don't work. Yeah. Oh, my, my older brother makes all the money. So I'll just hang out. I mean, like what? You can do that. They're like, Parvé, we're not American. We take it easier here. Oh, yeah. Whoa. I can't get away with that. My mom will call me lazy and everything. I know. It is so much pressure. British influence. Yeah. Right. And also because it's like weird, constantly trying to prove ourselves to this system and like our families found out or at least they learned the only way to exist is by like, if nothing else assimilating hard into the capitalism culture of like work, work your fucking ass off and don't you dare take time or space because you have to work harder to get a smaller chunk of what's out there. Absolutely. It's a whole part of why let alone like the stentrain, you know, like we know, I've just learned so much of this actually since like Trump since George Floyd also where like, oh, no, no, no, we're all in this together, South Asians for black lives, like finally seen that connection, you know, in this generation. I lost my trade of thought. I just got stoned a bit, but you know, like saying, well, it's just like, we in Americans, Americans, it's true. Like we hardcore went American, you know, like the STEM visa. Like it was Johnson into Nixon that kind of let after the 1920s, when they kicked out Indians, you know, they said like the, you know, like Chinese exclusion act, their other acts, like which is such an atrocity that we're only learning about now. My own grandfather, my paternal on my paternal side, I'm not close with my father. So I didn't know this until a few years ago went to Berkeley. And my whole life, I had no idea about this because he was a communist and you don't talk about communism when they open up the visas during Cold War America, yeah, like 60s, early 70s. So that's fascinating to me. But this thing of work, work, work, you know, like the, it was all of this where like, so the engineers and doctors, my dad was an engineer. And then he did not like his boss. He didn't like being told by the white man, basically, like the man what to do. So that's why so many of them went into like franchises, red roof ins, the subways, that kind of element. And you do learn it's still like one doctor, the first doctor who came or the first scientist who then like brings all of his relatives, you know, like what, what the poor angry whites, like Marjorie Taylor Greene were like, it's chain migration. I'm like, yeah, like Jesus Christ. What a fucking toaster with a mouth. I think this is this is not even a person. We don't have time to talk about her, but we do have politics. Not now. Although I will say, keep your eyes, keep your hearts and eyes open as these drag bills are trying to be passed in states like Tennessee, which are really just transphobic and just an excuse to make people feel unsafe. Keep well, we know why because no longer are cisgendered gay and lesbian people fearful for them. They're all stupid, LGBT movement like out of Britain and the people, the gays who are like, we love Harry Potter and JK Rowling, our turf. Bullshit. It's the queer transgender. It's whatever is the current thing that makes straight cisgender, close minded, you know, religious, extremist people icky. What's the new icky? It was icky enough when you and I cisgendered Harry bearded men, you know, when they'd ask us, who's the girl, who's the man, who's the husband, who's the wife in the relationship, just because then they could wrap their mind around it. Oh, yeah. And so now it's just the new icky. It's just new like, this is uncomfortable for me. We're okay with you gays. We'll take Peter Thiel's money. We will have my OG Annapolis on our TV show. We got Buttigieg. We did it. We did it for Buttigieg. But as soon as they're like, Parvish, why are you wearing nail polish and heels when I got used to you being very cisgendered? I accepted that. It's just the new- Isn't that funny? It's just the next- Hair. I think that they will always be mad at it. Hair. Hair with anything feminine pisses people off. Ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's stupid. And if you want to take the true libertarian side of republicanism that they just want to be left alone, what the fuck? Have you ever talked to someone like, you know, I don't think you should get an abortion? No, I think you should have that baby. No, I don't think you should worship that God. No, I don't think you should have a gun. I have never gone into someone's house to tell them what the fuck to do. No! Get the gun after us. All the time. My favorite thing is when now, I mean, now more and more of the drag queens are just posting. Every time there's a story, pastor did a creepy thing. Youth leader did a creepy thing. Just retweeting it with, not a drag queen. It was not a drag queen who did this. And drag queens pay taxes. Gay bars and big theaters pay taxes. Churches don't. I am, oh, I'm getting heated up. So tell me part. I know. It's so fat. Because now, as much as we, if you told me when I started watching Drag Race, started with season two, went back, watched one. Have you told me back then in 2010, 2011 that 10 years of this show into 15 seasons, then at that point, then drag would be an issue? I'm like, oh, honey, we are already here. I know. RuPaul is not the only owner of drag now. Like we are here. We watched all the ones on TLC and Queen of the Universe. Yeah! It's too pervaded. How can they, like, the genies out of the bottle. That's your positive. Like, you parvasive. That should be your podcast. Parvasive. Parvasive. I'm writing that down. I'll give you a croak credit you can produce. Okay. I am literally writing that on my like thing. Please write down parvasive. Look, we're mad. But we're also- I'm a sticky note note taker. I have a good idea about paper. Parv, tell me how you're liking this season of Drag Race. How are you enjoying the season 15 and the 200th episode? Fuck me. I could talk for hours. I could talk for hours. Talk to me. I will. Because I also don't have a lot of friends to talk about Drag Race with. Believe me. 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This cardigan? It's Bezos. Yeah. The Chinese collection. Please, please. We're going to dive into this, but first we got to take a break. Silence, Parp. I feel like taking a break. Hey, Traveling Trus. I am so excited to tell you about what life is like on the wild side. Guess what? It's not that far. That's because you can take pride in where you travel. You can have a spritz of glamour. You can become a P-Town babe. What's P-Town, girl? Bravenstown. It's queer heaven if you ask me. Much like a Palm Springs or WeHo. This is a safe haven for queerness that has gone undiscovered for a bit too long. It's a P-Town has the gay flavor, but it also has this cuteness, this beauty, this by the beach flavor that you can't get from the others. It's quaint, it's adorable, and it has every type of queer experience, which is why it truly speaks to me because I don't feel like I'm being bombarded by one type of queer. 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Bring back my break, we're in it, we're talking this episode. Tell me what you think. Tell me, tell me, what were you just saying I cut you off? I forget, I just have so much to talk about. I'm just so excited. I'm still a bit in pandemic quarantine mode too, where people, even online, it's still such a gift. I'm so grateful and I don't think people should take it lightly still, so I'm so happy that podcast, that is true. I hear you. I'm having so much fun. I also love that I get to meet people and just have a long conversation with people. I don't get to hang out with you as much as I would like, so this is an excuse. And you're one of those folks, we should know each other better, but how it's that respect game. There's a thing, I follow people who I've never met even before, because I'm like, oh, clearly you're doing some art and work, and especially I love a producer who does a show thing because I don't. I am the person who like, oh, you're having a, oh, you've invited me, thank you, I'll come. Oh, when am I having a party? Oh, no, I don't do that. I'm too scared, too nervous. It's hard to put the energy out there. You don't need to because when you run for student body president, you get elected, so like you can give that energy. So what did you think of Ru? What did you think of Ru, you know, giving spice the old, okay spice, it's time to change it up, bitch. Okay, you know that Ru's, especially in this face is like, this is, this is your life. Your last chance, you know, when she's doing the drill, feel like, hey, kiddo, you know, like, if you don't do what I say, you're out basically. She could tell she wasn't going to take the no spice. Spice is going to take the note. Of course not. Because also there's a difference that I want this for you. And Ru was not doing that. Ru was like, look, this is it. This is the chance. Bless the twink. Bless, bless, bless spice. It's just that self, that confident twink, like especially like, I equate so many of the kids on the show, the contestants to like just actors, you know, like how Marsha, Marsha, Marsha is that dance captain and musical theater class, you know, and Lucy is the one like, I was really big in high school, but you know, not cutting it in college. And the thing about, and so even with spice, it's just like the, uh, uh, huh, good note, good note. I'll shut up about this, but twink mediocrity reign supreme, especially when Jack's an unbelievably talented performer of color went home last week. And spice got to stay. Those spice has yet to demonstrate what she does that well. And I'm sorry, but that is racism. And that is just one way in which unfortunately shows an entertainment have a fun time reflecting the racism we see in the world when an incredibly talented queen goes home before a cute little twink. Yeah, but again, a nitro sent spice back because it had to be a fair, it had to be a fair fight against Jack's. So, and also Jack's, you know, like it was kind of, you know, that unspoken after three lip syncs, it was out. Yeah. Yeah, I think spice, no one was more surprised and grateful than spice. But I mean, like if it wasn't that last week with Jack's, which a nitro was right. Again, it's the panty dropper moment for me. Like a nitro taking out spice would have just been, it just would have been, it would have made her look mean. It would have made it look unfair. Genius TV. Yeah. Absolutely. But I, I do think it is interesting though that one more thing about sugar and spice that they were the butt of the joke a lot and to their credit, they rolled with it a lot. Yeah. And when they did shine, like when spice was like sometimes the best in those like social media type ready challenges, right, like knowing how to end on a funny line and on a yeah, you she was yes, Andy, most of the time. So sure, I do. His butt is the same. Yeah. Yeah, they deserve credit and they're young and they've done so much of their careers and they'll do so much more. They're gorgeous too. They're really fucking gorgeous. You can't take that from them. The looks, the looks are there. Can we talk about how mistress is eating this competition eating and is now truly one of my top five favorite drag race queens ever. Sure. Do you know, I think if I may, I believe you like her authenticity. Yes. Says it. Never malicious. She, I don't know why it's bit, it's, I've got Bianca Del Rio on my mind lately. I'm 100 now. She's making a press. She's been making a big press moment. She's been making a press. Yeah. And it's that vibe. It's that vibe of a lot of Bob, the drag queen too of just like, this is who I am. I'm not overtly mean. I'll call shit out. And guess what I can back it up and mistress even more than Bob. And I think more than Bob and Bianca that her lip sync was great. Yeah. Her lip syncing was great. Great, great, great dancing. Great, great dancing. Extra. Everything. Really big. I mean, she's my winner. It's happened to her Sasha for me. I mean, Sasha, it's just, but Sasha is Lady Gaga doing American Idol. I love Sasha Colby. So, because it's just, she's so professional. Every time I look at Sasha, every time she's on screen, it is just, if not mother, it's professional. It is like, I call so me like, I love professionals. I do. I like about this. Could it hurt her? Because sometimes in this show, they love a, that little bit of underdogness to the winner. Absolutely. And Sasha is just mother. And it's not, I don't think she needs to win. Uh-huh. Fair enough. I don't think she needs to win for it, for her impact to have been made. For her to not been on the show this late and her to already, you know, like, I am not the most well versed, like, not non-TV. Like, I don't go out anymore. Like, I quit drinking in 2019, even before pandemic. Congrats. She's going out. Thank you. Thank you, babe. Catabas. Yes. Yes. Licker. No. Yeah. We, I did not go back in my heavier drinking party fucking phase days. I would get annoyed, like, when the show would come on, I would go with my friends to another part of the bar just so we could talk. We were talkers. We were chatty, chatty, Kathy's. We didn't dance. We didn't do heavy drugs and just being an oblivion. And we didn't really watch shows. If we wanted to watch a show, we'd go to the theater. We'd go to a play. We'd go to a Gefin. We'd go to Iama. We'd go to something. But like, when there was a show at a bar and a dance club, this is where I get lost in that space. I can't focus. But the fact that I knew Sasha Colby, you know, I've known Sasha Colby. So like, that's interesting. So for her to already just be killing it, it's just kind of like when a pre-season eight drag queen comes back to them and all stars or makes an appearance, it's just like a reintroduction. Get those dates, you know, on tour. Absolutely. So now we've got to talk about the heart. This is heart wrenching. Both Selena doubting herself and Anitra's absolutely, I mean, I cried. I just unbelievable story about her home life. Quiet confidence too. And just even like quiet emotion. It wasn't pushed for show. You know, I, and this is a fascinating story because as we learned Anitra's full ethnic background mix, you know, I believe there's Japanese, Filipino on dad's side, Puerto Rican German. Yeah. On moms, if I remember. So like, yeah. Well, how fascinating because like my Asian Indian biases, I would think that the Asian side would, you know, that's just where my mind goes. Like the Asian side would have been the more conservative and an ultimatomy. And I was so moved that yes, as we're looking at the father right now, that's the dad, the fucking Asian dad stepping up. Like we need. I think we're going to see more of these stories as Gen Xers become parents. Yeah. You know, like my generation, like the generation, like our parents were born in India. We're born here. Our kids were going to be like, no, you can be gay, trans, queer, questioning, everything. And I just, that's the part of the story that warned me more. Father dad figure and Asian love like unbelievable. Just like also like the dad, like they had a troubled past, but like this dad got over whatever they were going through and stepped up after maybe a weird, but I don't know what the weird thing was, but the point is just like, that was really beautiful. And I fucking love any trip. And she is so fucking top four. She could easily win this. Totally. And just, I just think Anita has got that create like, and he turned like I could work in TV film, you know, she's got the timing. Oh my God. And natural and funny. I'm also don't. I'm sad. I know Selena. I see her amazing performance. I see her energy. I see her her fear of looking too vulnerable in the show. And I wish we could take that away from her, but I guess only she can do that. I agree with you fully. Her, she's such a good performer. Her lip syncs have been great. And then her like, she knows how to deliver. And this is what I like about like musical theater drag performers. Like she knew the build of the song. Yes, I know she does. Um, uh, Selena Dion in her act, but then even the one, like the one before the Janelle Monet song and like dropping the dress to the floor, like it's just people know how to build and know when to peek Sasha Colby does, Anitra does. And Selena does too. Like that's the performer side of it. I just like sometimes I don't know as again as a chubby guy, like, so I don't know, are we hiding the body or do we just don't have the perfect fit? You know how mistress has the perfect fit. You know, Lucy, you know, like as everyone said, great fits, great padding. I just wish Selena just, I want to see all your curves. I want to see those thighs. Yeah. I think our conversation on silhouettes are changing, which is a really cool thing for a drag race. Cause like, I mean, I'm with you. I feel like a thick brown man. And I feel like I grew up. Let's okay. I'll speak on my experience. But my body type was never typified as the sexual male ideal in America. In America. In America. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And that's unfortunately where I grew up. So I, I, I'm still escaping so much body shame because they don't make statues that look like my body type in the Renaissance era. You know what I mean? So it's like, that's just like a thing. I'm, I'm, it's like intellectually, I know I'm beautiful and I am sexy and all the stuff but it has a toll on you when you're told this is the silhouette that you should be. This is, this is what you should be. How do you escape that? Absolutely right. I deal with this all the time. It's part of like that white beauty and media that you grew up with. Like I wanted to be white, you know, like even Indian, even me too. Me too. Like we, we still wanted, we still did Christmas. We still ate, you know, Peter, brother and jelly. Like everyone. I didn't love the spicy. Like I didn't do it until I was like 18. I bought Abercrombie and Fitch pants because I thought it would make me look wider. IOU, Zee Kaverichie. Like I just wanted, you know, before, and then we also had to Indians Asians also then we would take a lot from black and urban culture too. Because like if we weren't white, like it was the Nirvana versus bell biv devo schism among like my, my people at my grid wire. Like I was weird because I like, I was like, but I like both. I like poison and I like never mind. You know, like, and they were like, no, you have to pick one. And it was just fascinating. So we had that kind of raised up. But 9-11 is when I really felt my Indianness. Period. Otherness. Period. Yeah. I mean it myself. So I mean, but again, people looked at us and they were like brown, bad. Brown. Yeah. Yeah. And just like how, but it's cyclical almost like just like how then Asian, our East Asian friends had a bad go of it because of all the misinformation with COVID and the stop Asian hate the tax. It's just fascinating. Like what, who's, where's the, you know, where's the turd cannon coming to next? Like who's it going to hit? Oh God. I guess we grew. Unfortunately, I think, I think our trans siblings unfortunately. Yeah. They're getting it right now. And you know, we are also, don't forget, we have body hair too. And so I remember the 80s was all about the shaved seals and waxing and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm the wrong skin type. I'm fat and I've got a, and I'm hairy. You know, like how do I fit in into what's so hard seals were. I have a friend who right. The 90s. Amina friend who's trans and non binary and they were talking about how like I'm comfortable in my skin, but the reality is even in the trans community, hairy femme transness is not put on a pedestal. So I am trying to find my worth being who I am and deciding if I can be hairy or not. Right. I used to wax before Palm Springs trips. Yeah. With gays with the gays too. And I just finally stopped, but I still do sometimes when it's, I'm like, I'm like shirtless on camera a lot. Like it, I do know like it's part of the joke. You know, like a brown guy, chubby, man booby hair. It's a physical. Interesting. But there are so many queers who are just turned on by it too. Isn't that funny? Oh, I'm sure. But like it was, but still like your own self hate and fear. Yeah. You're enough to hate your body wrong and wrong. Everything. So like I would wax for that because I was like, I don't want to give you an extra thing to make fun of. And he's got back hair. You know, like, but yeah, it was like, yeah. Oh, the 90s, are you kidding? The 90s were just, if you're a man with any hair on your body, you're disgusting. So it's like being a hairy chubby 12 year old, fuck my life. You know what I mean? Like I was like, I wasn't even fuck my life. Right. And women like this at element two, like even like when you were still trying to like pretend to be straight for like dating girls and they'd be like, oh, he has hair. I'm like, I remember just thinking like, does everyone has have this like, they like child like bodies? Like they like, yes, like my guy friends are like, I like my women shaved. I'd be like, oh, that's a child. Stop this. Hair is mass is gross and maturity. I know. Now we finally get it. Kind of. But now we're looking at hairless men dancing to RuPaul's cake and candy. Hey, she brought down a choreo for episode 200. I love it when RuPaul dances. I do too. I do too. I love it when she performs. She looks unbelievable. Yeah. And honestly, again, she is the icon. So I like that she's like, she clearly knows how to move. She clearly has rhythm, but she doesn't feel a need to overdo it. Right. What was the one that the old friends go? Oh, yeah. I was like, oh, yeah. New friends, old friends gold. Two steps back. Yeah. I love it. She's giving her that song, right? She's giving Rihanna energy at the Super Bowl. She's attracted. Right. Which is valid. Did you like the Super Bowl Rihanna? Yeah, I did. I love Rihanna doing her thing. I made me really happy. I think she's unbelievable. How about you? I have never been like, I have like maybe I have anti maybe is like the only album I ever like, uh, voted or, you know, an Apple music. So I've, oh, I know the hits. So I've never been like one to like run to Rihanna, but yeah, I thought she was great and especially being pregnant. And I also don't need all the glitz and glam. I like that it was kind of simple and just like, I loved it. Sharp. It was sharp, sharp, focused galvanized and ready to take the crown. No, but she was like looking into camera. Like you know what I mean? She was giving face just even knowing how much power her face and presence has. I'm like, that's what I need. That's billi, that's billionaire confidence. You know, I'm happy for. tax Rihanna. No millionaire. So I know really do it. So we're going to quickly talk about these looks, but first silence part. I feel like taking another break. Oh, I don't like to fly sky high, not for me. If I'm not in a plane, mama, I need to stay on the ground. 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I just love that she shows everybody. And then I like the icing on the cake that the phrases that she took were from all the big girls. I thought that was so cool. Yes. That was my that was the icing on the cake that was like great done. Chirp. Amazing. Huge. She's gorgeous hair blonde. Hair blonde. A proportionizing you and you from Madame Lequier. That's good. That's good. Spice given her dingaling cosplay. What do you think? What? You know like that that reminded me of checkers was at that fast. Oh, yeah. Rallies and door checkers. Or like I I confuse it with sonic also. So but like sure. Yeah. So you're calling her a slush. With the one spice it's always perfect. It's always perfect. Yeah. It looks great. I would personally chirp it. Is it a is it changing drag? No, but it's the assignment. I do a light chirp just because I'm like I just get bored of like it's always perfect. Yeah. I don't like perfection. I want messy sometimes. Agree. What Joe Hera is messy sometimes, you know, like in a way. Yeah. I was perfect, but I she's like I made it. I mean, even walks herself. Let's talk about Lux. Lux, of course, is beautiful and in so many ways, but gorgeous. But gorgeous. A lot of risks. Like I think this kind of Moto look. I think I kind of look chirp her. Yeah, her Moto look with the cutoff tit kind of that that's a hard look to pull off that kind of like full length under tit mid drift moment. It's a chirp. But Lux is also one of the best walkers. Oh, yeah. It's like it's it's it's Naomi Campbell every time. And so she's got that vibe that she can sell any outfit to me, you know, some thin, beautiful people plus the confidence plus the fashion she looks can sell anything on a runway to me. She really can. I mean, I shouldn't have won that lip sync, but I could see being in the room. Maybe we just didn't see how she commanded it. Oh, yeah. And it's like a neutral one that lip sync, but I think that was just some production magic. They're like, it's kind of going to be more fun. Yeah. Yeah, we want to see a neutral Jax, right? They do. Marsha calling it rainbow road. Elegon. So what do you think of this? Look, I mean, it does look like those colors of that ice cream treat that you're kind of like, I didn't want rainbow sherbet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can I you get you get the last cup and it's rainbow sherbet at the birthday party. I love Marsha. Marsha. Marsha. I think she's so incredibly talented. I just think that it's a little blaresink clear. Like I can't wait for the glow up. You know, next you think yeah, she'll go further. But I do think but Marsha is like, okay, yeah, you were you were probably a bock and wicked like you are musical theater magic. And when she performs to it, it is pretty it's pretty great. Her acting challenge and her dancing stuff. Like I'm a big version Marsha. Marsha fan. She really knows how to improv. She's really improving the scene so well. Improvising. It's a trip for me and nothing makes me laugh more than a drag queen pretending to take off a helmet when God knows they absolutely could never take off a helmet with that hair. Like I'm going to burp it. I'm going to burp it. I'll burp it. Okay, work. I don't like the Appalach. Those what are those things of little at the, you know, like the things here on the hip. I just don't like them. They look like hand. You burp it. Fucking burp it. Yeah, I burped it burp it Marsha Marsha Marsha. Salina esti this. I like this. Okay. I don't like a drop crotch. You don't. Yeah. I mean, for me being a not so tall person drop crotch does not for me. Right. I'm like skinny jeans. I do. Oh, yeah. I mean, because I don't need anything bulking up my lower section. Same, same, same. I love when skinny jeans came out. I'm like, oh, this is me. Right. Why was I wearing baggy jeans all throughout the early 2000s? But no bows athletic fit that I'll put you on that. I sawed at Costco. Twenty dollars. I'm going to chirp this. I just I'm live. It's giving me no scrubs. It's giving me a fantasy I'm here for. I just think it's fun that it's a little different interpretation of the prompt. Hey, and again, Salina, the performance is there. I would watch a Salina show. Yes. To see her perform. Like she'd be great in the Vegas review. Oh, yes. She's going to have a long career. She's and she's just going to get even more powerful. I have gone to the Vegas show. I want to go back because the girls change. Let me know because I've never gone and that's when we only want to go do Vegas if we go see a show at night. Let's go. Yeah. Let me know because I really do want to go. I like Asia. Yes. There's a lot of talented queens there. I want to see Aquaria. Malaysia Baby Doll Fox. Oh, giving strawberry ice cream. I chirp it because I like, I love the color. Yeah. I think she just does so she does pretty so well. She's so pretty all the time. It is pretty. It is soft and I like that it's kind of a different direction. It's kind of giving me vanilla pea from Wreck It Ralph. It's giving me a softness. I'm getting like motor mouth, motor mouth Maybell from hairspray. Like if this was like a 60s or 70s. Yeah. A two in the pink one in the stink lady. And I also just do love her. I love like a little soft spoken queen and I think they've come for her a bit. She's wonderful. You've got an easy target and she stood up for herself. Chirp. Don't mess with her. Yeah. Chirp. She could just keep owning her meanness. I'm sorry. This is vanilla pea. Lucy Liduka coming in with this cartoony thing. I liked it. Am I crazy? I liked it. Lucy Liduka is the equity deputy of your cast because you know she just like wants like. Periv, you were late five minutes. So actually the producers. Yes. You had a right to dock you. You hear me on my side. I call it stage. You be on my side Lucy. Stage manager energy. Right. Yeah. It's not the most fun to be around. Talent. Yes. Out of town. Yes. Ooh. I don't like the cutouts. I don't like that whatever that dark pink thing the snake on the crotch or on the sides. That was distracting for me. Okay. Fair enough. I just bought it when she said Princess Peach. I bought it. I bought it. So I'm going to do you think that people make that because I would be that person like if you give me a shit outfit I would you know like the improviser and us like describe the improviser. Right. Right. Like I think that that I just feels like bullshit at sometimes I'm okay. And Princess Peach. It is true that like a good explanation will save an outfit like Kennedy Davenport which they talk about in this episode. I mean that's iconic because it's a stupid awful outfit with the funniest explanation in the world. Sasha Colby. Come on. She looks like Madonna like 80 85 86 like lucky. I was gonna say material girl Madonna like Donna wishes. Oh I know bless bless Madonna has no friends her own age. Does she have a friend her own age. Oh no she needs one though. She needs one just to say like you need to look more like a woman in less like a billboard with cheeks. But again I think she had Annie Lennox for a bit and then Annie got mad at her some years ago like when oh man I was like even crushing COVID but I'm like even Madonna and her friend but look it's Sasha Colby God that face perfect this is also fun and different and gorgeous chirp chirp chirp I like it I love the simple because like the RuPaul's original drag race thing is it's I like simplifying iconic things not necessarily making them bigger. That's I mean that's smart I mean that that's a smart way to approach it something that makes it look edited not just busy busy busy. A nitra I loved it. My favorite part is the see through bikini underneath I thought that was a naughty naughty naughty touch that made it for me. I like the like extended seat belt thing because that's like oh that's kind of here for I'm here for that seat belt yes yeah chirp chirp and deed and again talk about her ethnic bringing it I'm like that is that's a few that's a future we're all going to be like eight or twelve our children and grandchildren will be like twelve truly let's let's let's let we're going to be orange and it's going to be a beautiful thing it's like we're replacing some people. Gaze will not replace us. Gaze will not replace us yes we will. So my favorite ball is the next one which which I'm here for I thought the prompt sounded like it was going to be something different but they were just my left or my right right. I'm giving a recessed left nut. Yes yes this beach ball from mistress look let's come on what come on it was I mean it's Lee Bowery it's it's fabulous it's club kid and again not to please even Malaysia a bit and Selena look at look at look at mistress to be like this is all of fucking me yeah yeah this is different this is wild I just makes me think of we've we've had a beach ball look in the past and this like yeah clips is it hard I'm sorry I'm not trying to call out you Rico Harrow but oh she's wonderful but I remember them being like huh this beach ball looks good but this beach ball look holy fucking shit this is right wild in like you said club kid ish giving something different chirp for sure chirp chirp like such a versatility in her looks to uh-huh gowns to club kid you know I might have made made her the winner of this challenge but I'm not RuPaul me too yeah actually I agree yeah yeah bag ball from Marsha Marsha Marsha giving oh hello no go to yeah I'll chirp it light chirp it's great I just wanted to be a little drag ear when you know like the proportion should be bigger though one of them either the skirt or the the bags of that she's holding over you know the on the milk whatever thing it just needed it to be bigger that's where she's so cute and good but bigger you're at a seven you're at a six or seven and we need you at 11 12s yeah it's giving me Swiss miss clit and I'm here for it like I agree it could be more but maybe your drag is softer I don't know I'll still chirp maybe maybe she's like intimate cabaret drag oh yeah yeah it's like like like cafe Carlisle with Marsha Marsha snap snap yeah opening for Meghan Hilti we have Malaysian next giving hairball I thought this was okay yes yeah I did again this is the thing where like she's still like a little softer and everything and where the pink worked what I did not like about this was the zebra the zebra drape yeah when it was off I liked it better when it was off it felt a little bit more 20s a little bit more flapper that kind of Charleston era and just something about the zebra brings me to like Michelle Visage yeah it's a little busy even for something that's supposed to be busy right because when she takes it off the dress itself is like oh yes show the body show the arms everything it's just that moment of like why the why the cloak why why I gotta be cloak though it's a burp for me yeah a lip slight burp slight next we have spice giving fuzzy was he was a ball what do you think I'm I'm I'm actually just burping disces I'm bored it is it is more of the same I feel like she's worn this hair already yeah and I just don't like when like she's never this is where like they feel childish uh-huh child like to me like because like you are three years old yeah but that's the thing is like if you're serving sexy and you have the body and then act so grover your faces and everything all the time it just like can you just vamp it down yes I know oh god I like I that's where I'm like are you 17 or 18 are you 24 and you're owning your sexuality I can't believe she brought the disco ball out twice I think that's so silly bless and then her reaction was oh yeah oops what are you talking about um skirting by on oh oops I'm dumb right they'll have a decade of I don't care I'll burp it who cares yeah Selena is T.T.T's money ball um it's just it's a little messy it's it's just always like it's so close it's so I even love like how it almost feels like a palm tree yeah but then go all the way I don't know and I I don't know I don't know what it is like right if we say bigger than it becomes something else like if it if we say less and it's not big enough I don't know because fashion is my worst in my own personal that's why it's hard I don't know how to articulate it but I know it needs to be more and less I'm still gonna give it a light chirp and because I think she doesn't give perfect couture I think she gives experimental very well and I'm here for the experiment including an EBT poster in her hair I'm here for the experiment great I'll give it I have to give it to a light burp because I love the idea uh-huh love it love it love it I just like I get caught where like is are you doing a tree or a dress or then why is it more of either totally Lucy Laduka giving again kind of a a milk made of doggy poo bags um yeah not I have to burp this one because Lucy like I thought had a really good state puff marshmallow man yeah idea but then the proportions were off to so she did just look like a sailor right and so this is still giving a little bit of that some of those same colors and vibes and you know yeah just it's so mad I get that she was like I'm editing it down but it just for them was so edited it was just a white thing with some color pop right it's a white shirt with like a dress that you glued like it looks like Lufus or you know like doesn't look like Lufus yeah I don't know it's so like I think like I actually can do this yeah yeah I am right like and I can never say that I couldn't even have done I could have done Malaysia's I know first big dress even let's burp it it's a I have to her next we got oh my god luck to our London giving hair wow wow wow wow wow wow right yeah it's she should have been in the top yeah she's fantastic she sells she's so focused on her runway yes she really is I mean the cinch is very impressive the hair pieces are cool you know I think one criticism we can give is she is relying on her body almost all the time but sure she has a body yeah let her do it it's her her prerogative and but I do think there's enough experimentation here that's unique it's a big church yeah so Sasha's Sasha giving time bag her like Lagandra's stranga yes god right I as a cannabis user myself I the one thing like I've never been a fan of like the joint like it looks messy dirty ashy smokey to me and I know like you can't really fashionably make a vapor but like I just think it would be funny I mean like I also just think it would have been perfect without the campiest moment of it however I will still chirp it because it's great to see Sasha Colby go camp I love the skirt yeah for some reason and but you see like I love the leaf dress so much like sometimes there's a moment like do you need the part of the of cannabis and marijuana consumption that I like the least the part that right I always inhale some ash right I slobber all over in the next person as the joint to bringing your baggage into this absolutely is my baggage and I do mean bag edge this yeah is a big on another queen I would say it's cost to me and silly but right I love it the hair the lime green bob with it all a chirp yeah a nature giving sugar ball weakest a nyterous weakest look I was little nervous uh-huh for a moment after her first look yeah you know going in for her but like yeah not that great just not great just a little bit of falling down I think we got a I think we got a kind to edit because like see as she's walking away up the runway I think there's a little droppage of the purple thingies I see right and it comes back up the next time we see her so like you know like you know that she's holding that up pulling it up and if we hadn't seen this look kind of similarly and so many weeks from her it'd be different but this is a burp yeah to be fair it's I think she knows it she knows she knows finally we have our crystallized elegance uh the looks they were making mistress Isabel Brooks come out like I had a moment where mono I forgot that this was the design I know this this category because like when I saw her doing I'm like oh what a beautiful dress was made for she made it I know it took me a second to be like what I know I know and maybe this is my thing of this week especially because of the high energy of so muchness of the lala perusa lipstick perusa but this I apparently I wanted a simplistic week and this served it for me like I oh my looks that I like were the quieter ones and this mistress look at what looks she gave us to do it she should want she should want this week here's my producer mind she just won us she just won a challenge comedy challenges are coming up she's gonna win a comedy challenge and I think that producers were like we love Sasha we need to give Sasha some fuel because coming we don't know if Sasha's gonna win a comedy challenge in coming weeks that's my that's my two cents chirp in the neck crack though would you have known that Sasha Colby would be hilarious I know I mean like that's that's part of her repertoire now she's just seasoned and I love that we're getting some redemption for seasoned queens going like yeah look the it's very clear the producers are telling the story of tick tock queens work but tick tock queens don't have every skill right spice okay no no no no no if she had not worn this top 800 times before that's a very cool disco ball top but she literally has worn this exact thing I can't believe she's showing her midriff when they just said stop doing that and she's done the side slit thing as well bored bored bored by birt by burped Marsha Marsha Marsha giving her coco coco yeah she's pussy bitch what do you think I really like to except for the jewel in the pussy that was distracting and totally like what are you doing like it and then the tappet and like that's that element of like oh my lord on the nose yeah because everything else was released she looked really sweet and great she really did she's walking she's performing I'm still gonna chirp it for me I think she looks so good but she does look pretty these tell me you're just great in monochromatic colors you know the last peach and now this one like she is just a gorgeous I guess it is in a surprise she doesn't need to wear makeup yeah it's not a huge surprise the jewel on the crotch kind of like that I would maybe see that from Selena yeah a jeweled Merkin I mean her pussy runneth over I maybe but yeah maybe her pussy was the one that goes got crystallized because trade didn't like the session makeup though don't you feel like her makeup is good in this I think she looks great and again I'm I'm okay with her drag being less severe in the face I don't know because I want to give space to queens like Dakota Shiffer who gives softer paint I don't know I don't know oh yeah yeah Dakota Dakota that's UK right though yeah yeah she was but she also relied on just her natural beauty yeah like Marsha Marsha like that's a she was a bit Dakota's beautiful really stunning okay Malaysia maybe Dolph ox I I think this is so similar to so many things she's already worn yeah again there a couple outfits where I had a moment of like is this the design challenge one and I'm right because it looks polished but it is here's the problem too much pink too much to much to the sister so you know like you have pink in the drag one and so like hot day choose your pink I would have put her in the bottom two because I thought some of her looks again no one did terrible but her looks some of them didn't wow me so I thought she was headed to the bottom two of course to like kill spice but I think Malaysia might be might be out in the next few episodes I know which I'm bummed about cuz yeah I just don't know like if you're but if comedy is coming up like oh I don't know which she was good in the sitcom though but if it comes one thing I get worried about this yeah I get worried about the stand up Rose challenge is the one that would scare me on the performance side I don't think she can kill that I don't think so either Selena esti tis I love the love all the ideas yeah you know my favorite of three looks that kind of stuff right she's also very gorgeous her skin is always on point I did like this look though I will give it a light shirt because I I I think it was the best of her three no again that's not horrible I'm a little bit it's not horrible it just wasn't the most show stopping like some of the other looks were true but it's better than spices yeah we agree that it might be better than Malaysia's yeah I agree borderline you know Lucy Laduka giving runner up at the patch funny how art imitates life right I wanted a dress is fine dresses I mean but I wanted a little bit more the hair could have been teased a bit more and the makeup come on we could have had a bit more like yeah I baby makeup like and it could have even been uglier prettier I just wanted a little bit more it's fine it's not bad it was fine it's fine I'm gonna burp it good not evil to my burp it too luck to our London yeah bring her down luck to our London giving frozen ice fairy I thought this was beautiful I did too I thought this was beautiful I just wish that they were my only Christmas would be just a little bit more lower on the lower path right it feels a little abrupt yeah that's it that's I guess my only criticism and then of course then I would then I got mad with her her talking about I mean you know egotistical then I was like safe drama shut up also right I would be fair she's given the silhouette a lot and I that's why I think it may have been fair that she's safe I've seen her where the Borat the Borat bathing suit look at least four other times so no look great on her yes but I don't think it's completely unfounded she looks great though yeah Lux has that skin tone that melanin that like that every color will look great on and if she made this it look out of like hot glue strings which is what it looks like holy shit that's amazing that's a thing to that really like we I have to give her credit like for construction yeah and but that's the thing but we didn't get to see it you know that's where I don't like the rushed episodes so we get to see them talk about the process and again and I like process I agree agree fully such a Colby giving Hawaiian goddess I told Eric when we watched it my partner like she accessorizes perfectly yes unlike Selena where it might be to more you know take two things off before you leave the house Selena she Colby is perfect with the earrings are perfect I love the armband because I didn't know if it was Greek I don't know if we were like seeing Greek goddess or wooden wooden golden tree nymph but she she's this is do you see what I mean where it's professional like and your headliner everybody Sasha Colby like that's always be like she's what last you could criticize that it's simple in places but again if she knows how to pull off simple you got to give that points because she knows how to pull off simple the dress the perfect train the shoes I mean like it's just perfect look at the shoes perfect shoes or if she put that top on it like it's just right the silver combo is kind of hard to pull off and she pulled it off and the rose and the rose like and then like the apple iPhone rose gold makeup you know like it's she's so pretty also points for using pageant hair blending in a way that feels fresh she's like using her natural hair but also blended it into this hair piece in a way that feels not just old school ginger men's drag which we love ginger men's but I'm just saying it feels fresh gorgeous a nitra a man wow then wow wow wow you go we go from gorgeous to gorgeous I can see I see why like they had a nitra yeah nitra sashikolby lip sync but like this what we were like living our like yes jegosaurus triceratops fantasy like it was it was powerful it's strong who had done like the which drag race was it where they have probably a query a query I kind of did like a bone I think it's happened a couple times yeah like an a skeletal structure in the back created it on her like prehistoric look and it was cool as well but this was so dynasty I loved it I loved the hair unbelievable the one that maybe not the hair color as much but that cut is perfect for distress you better walk that fucking t-rex bitch it's really good gosh it's very good you better make my water jiggle uh-huh and I chirped this so much because I was also the bottom is great I never heard that the trumpet bottom that the user like it's layer something I learned and it's layer bottom amazing and then the bottom also fell popular in West Hollywood a trumpet bottom is that what is that our new names now hi trumpet bottoms that's a bottom when you fuck and girl I've been there it really win win the whole talk back that's a trumpet bottom you know sometimes you're like I hope that's a pleasant sound so let's talk about it Malaysia and Anitra and Sasha in the top I'm sorry mistress and yeah Sasha and Anitra in the top I would have liked we both said we would have given it to mistress but Sasha's yep stunning professional yeah absolutely I just thought that mistress is all three were it and you you heard my personal just like my personal thing about the cannabis the marijuana one yeah you won't shut up about it parve it's just one little pick pick pick but like I did think that like no mistress were three different so did you hate you can argue you hate blunts I went to my my we each have they're like do you want a joint for dollar I'm like no see I'm always delighted by that I like the high schoolness of a blunt or joint just being like oh should we smoke it really quick let's smoke it no I'm a bad smoker they would fall apart my hand I'd always be the person who like it would always go out or I the cherry dropped and I'd be like sorry all right I'd have to be like it for me with your finger on the bong or the carburetor and I didn't see I'm confused I'm bad at I'm actually I like cannabis I'm just bad at it I get it I do like the easier the easy ingestion of it all or the easy vape of it all so I want this Bob true lip sync we got Selena going up against spice to Lil Nas X's that's what I really want interesting song I think a challenging song to lip sync to yeah I think I agree um spice do you see what I mean like of you know and I brought up musical theater a lot but like in musical theater class I remember one we one of the exercises sometimes you'd have to do is like just do your song as a monologue yeah before you sing it before just you kind of connect to it and know it spice like spice I know this song okay you had no connection to it what you were doing was exact opposite and the only then thing for Selena that I would have offered advice was to even do again my motive my my emo for this episode less simplifying I don't think you needed to walk all the way to the upstage to the back of the set right stay down lock it with like liver trees royal you know uh-huh park and bar slow lip sync if she had stayed put because look at her she's got the drama we know she can really I just wish you had just done a little less you would have you would have kept our attention more right that song in that interpretation especially being in that dress I know what she had to do but I and the producers gave her this song if I'm being evil I bet the producers are like we're putting the story in of you having a hard time of loving yourself for all your gifts this is actually a gift to you to use that true emotional state of your saboteur getting in your way use that for the lip sync which I think she did yeah kind of I think it was a very good B plus it was not as good as yeah lip sync last week which I yeah again was my favorite lip sync last unbelievable she this is why I just want to like if she had done like all that emotion standing there you know that mistress what mistress did you know just that shaking and like that kind of shake drag performance if she just done that in spot I would have loved it I'm just laughing cuz spice didn't didn't understand one line of the song spice is not understanding that in one way in one way at all or she's never felt um uh any sort of discomfort in a dating realm that made her feel less desirable as a queer person so either she can't channel it or I think she just doesn't pay attention to the lyrics it's just experienced maybe it's just not the song you know like it's it's like a 24 year old or like a 22 year old in musical theater class or three years just sing like ladies who lunch yeah what is a 19 year old white girl from Pittsburgh gonna know about of you know 50s 60s 70 year old woman in New York I get it it's hard it's hard to do I get it I really do it's a bitch it's hard but we say goodbye to spice by by spice by by spice you had a very funny run on this show yeah sweet and good but I am surprised that we got the sugar spice lip sync with that early mm-hmm this season I thought they would have waited a couple more and then then the flip is like I'm surprised spice lasted that long mm-hmm like wow but yeah what a sweet person what a sweetie patiti and um bless her for a long career I could see them coming back to all stars like I'm not worried about together especially together together again with hopefully a new storyline so part is with the mono really quick what is with this I'm in my dom top era what is that eras I just figured I am over eras I don't like that because to me that's also an indication that these there's too much self awareness of being on the TV show just be on the TV show and if I'm also being a bitch stop referencing the show I gather this is the 200th episode but my god if we don't say new pieces of dialogue the show won't have new pieces of dialogue to reference in future seasons is there a piece of dialogue from this season that is now iconic I have to think about it as opposed to like create the show don't talk about the show walk the duck yeah walk that fucking duck there there are moments there anything mr. says those are those moments are iconic I feel like mr. is calling Sasha Colby Dumbledore there there are moments um I guess spice being iconically bad at the snatch game there are moments but I think I want more of that less talking about what was cute in the past this is where I do appreciate some changes to the edit even Daytona winds going the Tim and Eric right right route you know like good we need it like it's well especially when we watch all the other you know the although we haven't see we haven't started Belgium yet because you know when you have the subtitles you can't like you can't play the video game watch it's hard you get it it's hard I do get it but I mean and Drag Race is spania season three comes out that's better because I understand a little bit more Spanish so I can like look away and yeah you know and those are like Instagrams part I mean where we can support you where can we follow you what's up with you I'm at parv p r v e y on instagram and I guess we're all on Twitter for a little bit at parvation until how much longer I mean I'll say what right they're taking away everything who knows but who knows I'll use it like a bad person sure I still got a lot of help it I gotta see it Twitter is where I just make my angry political statements and punch up at like Ted Cruz and stuff Instagram is like come see me in this show next week like it's that kind of promotion 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