Rock Climbing Primer

Good morrow and welcome to go my favorite sports team. I'm your host Mark Blyre here not to know sports but to learn about sports because the other host is Tyler yes that's that that would be me I'm the one who knows the sports some would call me a master of balls and holes not many not many some I don't think it's caught on uh maybe a little bit not really I don't think out in the public anyone's calling anyway uh how are you Mark you've been you've been doing the sport of editing a lot you know I'm not even gonna talk about it because everyone's so sick of me talking about it's all I talk about oh yada yada yada it's either MacBooks or it's editing oh I got nothing in between oh my life just so boring I I recently watched something where you uh had a Ratatouille moment with food a Ratatouille moment like some new food that you've had two of separately and then you had combined and it was just like eye opening I have no idea what that's referring to kimchi ramen oh all right man you gotta try that we gotta go yeah like that's it's dope you like ramen I like ramen do you like Korean food I do like Korean food well then let's go get this yeah okay okay any excuse to go I'll go oh man I feel like it's been so long since we've seen each other in person it's all been through this digital medium to uh just do the podcast and that's it I know right it's been kind of crazy so busy both fix out why don't you come over this weekend uh yeah I can make that happen I'll show you I'll show you some of the movie it's coming together pretty nicely that sounds cool I'm down for that I'll down for that you don't get to see it though elegant listeners and viewers only me anyway some stuff happened in the world of sports the NFL season kicked off Joe burrow the man of Cincinnati got signed as the highest paid player in NFL history just before the first game of the season one damn record breaking salary it's a five year deal I think it's like a hundred hundred something million guaranteed let me look it up again good god paid for by the taxpayers of Cincinnati has a full guarantee at signing of a hundred and forty six point five one million dollars oh yeah oh didn't they lose yes that was the other part of that as the highest paid player in um NFL history ever he actually got benched at the end of the game he had the worst game of his career and he got sat down he got that contract signed and he was like I don't need to do anything else I can rest on my laurels that is not what happened uh what's up I mean I think he he was out of practice because he had been injured he strained his calf and didn't play in any of the preseason games so he came in look disjointed with the offense completed very few passes he had eight targets of his one of his favorite receivers T Higgins none of which resulted in a reception and he just looked out of sorts and they were behind three to twenty four in the fourth quarter basically not really winnable so they just benched him I think just to prevent injury but also because he wasn't really doing too well yeah that doesn't sound too good but what do we know we're a bunch of fools like uh if I had a hundred and fifty million dollars slap into my lap I my knees would buckle from the strain as well the sheer amount of weight of that money would make anyone crumble so who are we to judge yeah as pockets were weighed down you know there there are a million different things that were going through his head there are 146 million different things going through his head true yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah jacuz also interesting thing has come up uh no jacuz no no jacuz no no jacuz is a weight they have to wait a sec there's one more current event thing I want to talk about whoa whoa okay all right so apparently a record breaking 11,000 runners were disqualified at a marathon. And more to be anticipated. So at this year's Mexico City marathon, 11,000 runners and more pending have been disqualified for have cutting the course, taken vehicles and other forms of transportation, basically going off course and cheating to complete the race. 11,000 11,000. Alright, so is it just this race or is cheating so prevalent that only now people have noticed? That's a good question. But there were only like 30,000 people that entered the race. So a third of them, over a third of them have already been disqualified. Was this a situation where like there was two arrows pointing left and or there was like a guy that was like in a high visibility vest going, go this way. And then some other jackass came up and another high vision was like, go this way. You know, I don't know. It's a significant number that makes me think that in some case, it was just a simple mistake. In other cases, I think maybe, you know, people were just sheep and followed the person in front of them as they went to cheat. I maybe I guess if you're that tired, if it's like mile 20 and you're just like slogging it, you're just kind of going to follow tunnel vision, the people in front of you. So I guess that seems like a too high number for it to all be actual cheating. Based on the article that it said, like numerous of them literally hopped on cars and public transit buses, trains, stuff like that too. It's wild, weird, that is bizarre. Yeah. So that's, I just wanted to throw that out there because it was a fascinating thing that that hit the news. And I was like, wow, additionally, Aaron Rogers, who was really one of the great quarterbacks in the NFL still played four snaps before his season ended at his new team New York, four snaps. He tore his Achilles. Oh, he was on the field for four plays. He never threw a single pass and his Achilles got torn. The Jets hope has fallen. Fallen. Well, you never never know. They could offer Joe burrow more money. I think since he's under contract, it'd have to be a trade with the Bengals organization. Got you, got you. Man, that's that's that's stunning. And I mean, definitely he was very good. So probably every team in the NFL was like, the Bengals can't have that. No way. So they probably had to offer a lot of money. But yeah, no, very interesting. There I filled my quote of American football for all the people yelling, why aren't you talking about American football? And then for all the people that yell at me for talking about it, ha ha. There you go. Ha ha. I guess whoever you you know, where the ha ha's go and where the the pat on the back go. But now it's not the time for that because it's time for your cues. Tyler, you been bad. What? I have drum head eight 80 said you've been real bad. Oh, no. Tyler says the frisbee pie company was making pies in the 1920s. And that's what caused the birth of the modern frisbee. This is clearly a lie. Because in back to the future, part three, which takes place in 1885, Marty McFly clearly picks up a frisbee pie 10 and even throws it most likely accidentally causing the birth of the frisbee. Who are we to believe? Tyler, who we know to be an unreliable source, the hockey primer, just the most famous example, or an actual traveler of time. I believe you'd have to understand the theory of alternate timelines and creating of new dimensions of across the world. And that's what Marty McFly did. And we're in a different time where we have the documentation of his transportation that actually didn't affect our timeline because he also went back in time again. And so he altered his past to alter his future. And all of that got washed away at the end of the full trilogy of the back to the future movies. If you paid attention to the point to where, you know, it's a result. And my statements are accurate and Marty McFly is still alive to this day, never having time traveled. And I will add to that because I will say that back to the future contradicts itself, even it's in its own time travel mechanics, because they were talking about we branched off to different timelines, like to what Tyler said. And then here's Marty McFly. Oh, no, my mom is falling in love with me. I'm just peering. Oh, yeah, like, yeah, right. Okay, pick one. Anyway, Jacque is over. Tyler survives, but he won't make it through this one. Oh, well, you won't because it's not about you. Read on, read on, I'm intrigued. There's nothing. The red panda pal says Mark face it. You sit there and call everyone a nerd, but the truth is you are in fact, a huge fat nerd. I see you geeking out on tech and you go, except it embrace the nerd them. What have I ever mentioned you? I was in like, it was like two episodes ago or something like that. I the only thing I know about you, is that there's a blue eyes white dragon. Mm hmm. And then there's exodia. Mm hmm. And it's a card. Do you know who Kyba is? Is that the friend of the enemy? Both. He starts as the enemy and becomes the friend later off. I see the infamous anime twist, you know, that enemy love is coming. Yeah, I don't think that's it. Oh, enemies of friends. Yes, I think that's more like it. Yeah, that's, that's, that's, yeah, it could have been enemies to lovers. I don't know. It probably wasn't. Anyway, Rosito Bandito, I think that's the racist bandit said, where is the justice for TCG's being considered a sport? That gets you so badly. I almost turned bright red because I did not expect that statement. Ah, well, that's why you tune into GMFST to get the most unexpected turns of news. Well, trading card games are not sports, sorry, but I didn't even read it. That's the answer. All right, the absolute insult to you, Gio, when did we talk about you? On the oh so beloved and famed Mark I plier, if that is his real name, would piss so many of us, you, Gio fans off. If only we knew how to read our own cars, however, this has gotten me to think as I have before in the past and have done much in attempt to convince others, I believe with my own personal experience that trading card games should indeed be considered a sort of sport. I believe it has the perfect qualities to be considered as such prizes, competitiveness, sportsmanship strategies, a constantly shifting scene of players and scenarios as the game proceeds to get older and older. However, many refuse to consider such children's card games to be anywhere near a sport as it has no physical activity nor balls nor holes. I however consider this an injustice and in search of those who will rally alongside me and join my fight for this to be considered. So we're not I'm just being dumb, to be honest, they can't even decide what argument they want to make. Yeah, this isn't a jacqueous you racist out there. You don't steal from people and don't hate. Yes, please don't hate, but also trading card games are not sport. Probably not. Yeah, there, I mean, there's a level of understanding and strategy and building a deck, but even then there's so much RNG or randomness to it. It's like, it's the same reason why I don't like saying poker is a sport like poker, you can bluff, but in trading card games, it's like you have to draw the right cards and play them the right way. That's fair, that is very fair. And also, unless it's you go where you're actually attacking each other's life points, which is the other thing that I know about you, you know, I don't think you can consider it physical, because then people can die. And that's what makes it a sport, you need paper cuts, what? Paper cuts, man, they're painful. Oh, if they said paper cuts, no, paper, oh, bay blades could be a sport, that could be a sport. You actually rode on the bay blade. And well, actually, it is physical because you have to rip it really hard and you got to have the strength to pull the cord. Yeah. And you got to have the skill to launch it. So if it's kind of like, you know, an accuracy sport to power an accuracy, I could see it, maybe possibly possibly. Alright, that's it. Ghosts banished. Yeah, get out of your ghosts. Anyway, your camera just froze in the most compromising hand position possibly really. It froze for me like ghost banished. You just full on arms. Man, this episode is going to get us canceled. Oh, boy, guaranteed. Alright, great, great. Well, you know, you know, what else gets people canceled throwing rocks at glass houses? Wow. Yes, maybe, maybe, I don't know, either way, it's irrelevant to what we're talking about today, but we are talking about a rock-based sport. Wow, what a segue. A sport I introduced you to many, many years ago. Wow, that's true. It was a cold, somewhat rainy day in Ohio, wasn't it? It was it was like drizzly out. Oh, okay, all right, gotcha. It was the day after we had skyline chilly. That could be any day. It's true. But this day, we went to the famous gym in blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, oh, I remember it so well. And we climbed on the, the faithful walls of the climbing gym of gym. Mark, what do you remember about rock climbing? You've done it now for a few years. It's been a while since you've gone. But what do you remember about rock climbing that would make it a sport other than just recreationally? In that day, that day, paint your mind to picture. Yeah, all right, all right. My I walk in. I've never been in the gym before and rock climbing gym before I walk in. I know that there's walls and there's rocks, but I didn't understand the procedure of things, you know, but I heard about it. And so I go in there and I'm, you know, climbing up walls and I'm like, ooh, this is fun. Yippee Yahoo, uh, wippy. Meanwhile, Tyler is training for Ninja Warrior. And he's like, all right, you go on this bitch, baby wall. Of course, you flushes his muscles a whole bunch. I'm going to, I'm not going to V6. You know, and then he basically there's a wall with like a 45 degree incline towards you. And he's like, I can do it. I can do it. And I remember you fell and you, you, your hands were like degloved, at least to my eyes, your hands just like we're completely torn up. Just like, are you having fun? And then he didn't make it in an injury. That's what you remember the real story why I didn't make it? Because they hated you. Sure, sure. Because they said I was in and then they came back and were like, no, no, no, we should have said that there's another round. And then they said, no, I see, I see, I see. Well, that's terrible. Yeah, yeah. From 25th to 29th September, 18th, or live aus Berlin, all information on the live stream of the MDE slash to the future of the week. But anyway, rock climbing. Yes. We had one of the greatest rock climbers on this podcast months ago. Yes, we did. In Alex Honnold. Yes. He talked about a few different variants of climbing. Do you remember what different variants there are? There's indoor bouldering. There's outdoor bouldering. There's top rope. There's lead climbing and free solo. Okay. There's also speed climbing. There's also skimmy do dock climbing. There's also no hands. He's climbing. There's also cock climbing where you just go up by swinging your dick. You're like a lasso and grab it a rock. The funniest thing is I didn't think of that. And actually when you said cock, where you got a squeeze rocks between your cheeks, you just leap and clench, clench those holds. There's chop cracking, cracking. There's jump crag, crack jump. When you got to bite the rocks, cocaine snorty. Wait, that's a different sport. There's booth bouldering where he gets your hoof spray paint. I mean, a few of those are accurate. Some of them were not anyway. We won't tell you which is which guys. We won't tell you at least not right now. We'll tell you later. Yeah, get to the end of the episode. Aren't that's it? Well, anyway, the rock climbing world championships took place in Bern, Switzerland back in August, where when there's bottom rope, if you're not a top rope or you're a bottom rope, there's whip rope. For those that like BDSM, which is all climbers really, we know. Well, men and women gathered to compete in bouldering, lead climbing and speed climbing at the rock climbing world championships in Bern, Switzerland at the end of August. Love it. The US didn't win any of the championships this year. So it's time for all of you that are listening in this episode to really focus up. We need to train the future champions of America and beyond. Great. And I know some of you that aren't in the US to make sure and train you could win if you learn you could win the rock climbing from this episode. You could win. Do it. We believe in you. Do it with a lot of training. Don't just go immediately and start boof bouldering. That is an expert level sport. Yeah, you won't be able to handle it. Yeah, you know, you can find like gyms and instructors everywhere that can that can teach you some stuff. It's like Pokemon. You got to wander the grass fields until you just like, and then a boulder comes up mountain like emerges through the trees. And then all man comes and pushes you over and shows you how to do. You got to get your starter boulder. You know, did you pick fire boulder or your water boulder? I picked a lot. I had lightning addition. I'd yellow I'd yellow. You know, all right. Back to your regular scheduled programming. Oh, this is it. Rock climbing has long been regarded as one of the ultimate examples of human perseverance and sometimes stupidity. Wait a minute. Yeah. Climbing asses do go hand in hand. Yes. Yeah. So climbing can be dangerous and reckless. If you're not careful, you don't learn the equipment and you don't do it properly, which is why you need to have that old man push you aside to show you how to rock the rock. Exactly. Right. But there's nothing quite like the feeling of accomplishment when you finally reach the top of a very difficult climb. Right. Good. It's competing against yourself, your willpower, overcoming adversity. It's competitive that's ingrained within yourself. And sometimes can be pushed to being against another person. But more than anything, it is you overcoming your own struggles before overcoming your past self and learning. Are you reading something? No. Are you sure? I'm looking up. Sounds like you're reading something. No. Sounds like you're reading something you wrote. It's really good. It's really good. Don't get wrong. I thought it was great. Anyway. Were you not reading something? No, it sounded like it's not not criticizing anyway, but it sounded like you know, your high school essay that you're reading in front of it. No, it was really good, man. I'm not. No, it was that was from the hard. I didn't read anything. No, that's what I'm saying. It's from the hard. Anyway, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What better way to then to live in accomplishment than to haul yourself up hundreds of feet of rock? Yep. With only your hands and feet. Only hands and feet got it. Whether you're the first person to do it or the fastest person to do it, or it's just your first time doing it. It's amazing. It's amazing. Act less. It's no. Well, go ahead. I was supposed to say it's less or not. Unless it's not. I take act one, the ancient Romans. Go continue, continue. In the Swiss Alps, when the Romans were unaware of the terrain that they were going into to spread their empire down, descended the Swedes climbing on rocks had never been done before. They snuck down from the mountains. The Swedes, the original spider men on the rock face. And the an act. Well, the exact origins of rock climbing aren't actually known likely because humans have been climbing forever, whether it's climbing trees to get fruit or an animal in the tree or something that was desired or just to look out to see what's beyond just to just to see. Yep. Yeah, because they're exploring. There's more trees. Oh, I gotta find the other trees. Oh, no, no. But there's a ton of archaeological sites and evidence of several ancient cultures who were avid climbers. In the Southwestern United States, there's many areas where indigenous tribes had lived on the cliffs, likely for safety. I don't know if you've seen a lot of like the cliff dwellings and different stuff that's not only in the US, but all over the world. I've seen a few. Yeah. Yeah, Cliffs and caves. Good places to hide. Yep. Archaeologists in Nepal discovered a series of caves used for burial that could only be accessed by climbing steep cliffs. So people have been climbing and exploring mountains for all of recorded history and long before that. But modern rock climbing as a sport was made popular by Victorians. Oh, much like many other sports, Victorians in France. Why we never mentioned the Victorians before we have. No, yeah, tennis Noah, no evidence golf. No evidence. There's so much evidence. No, no, no, the Scottish aren't Victorians. Are they? They had Victorian culture. Yeah, weird. Anyway, in France, which has plenty of mountains like the Alps, people started climbing for fun, same within Italy and England at the end of the 1800s, what started as growing but necessary activity grew and grew in popularity as a fun but dangerous hobby. In London in 1857, the popularity of climbing led to the founding of the Alpine Club, which quickly spread internationally, and in a few decades, the invention of better equipment changed and expanded recreational climbing and in 1910, German and Italian climbers created pitons and carabiners. Carabiners. What's a pitons? Pittons are what they put like into the rock face. Oh, okay, gotcha, gotcha, okay. This fancy new technology paired with a series of new rope handling techniques allowed climbers to places that previously were considered unreachable and unclimable. Wasn't long after people started climbing recreationally, that it became a competition. In the late 1940s, the first climbing competition started in where? Where do you think France? No, Russia. Oh, interesting. Then in 1985, an Italian sports journalist brought together a group of the best climbers in the world for an event called sport Russia or Russia. I don't know pronunciation. It's R O C C I A Italian. Roch, rock, rock, Russia, Russia, Rochia, Rochia, sport, the Russia, which is considered to be the first international climbing competition. Years later in 1991, the world championship was held in Frankfurt, Germany. Wow. And the IFC climbing world championships, which is the International Federation of Sport Climbing has been held about every other year since. So Mark, it's time to climb. You are, you are climbing, you're climbing, safely, you are doing climbing with a rope. What are some common things that you need to rock climb? Gotta ask, hold me. You are, you now. Say, now this is bullshit. See, this is the one time when a baby would have an advantage, you cock. What is wrong with you? You know that children and infants have much higher grip strength and body ratio than anything. Why wouldn't you let baby Mark climb here? Why do you got to let out a shape me climb now? I'm gonna die. Just like baby Mark has died every time. I'm gonna die. Go on. All right. What do I have? What was that the question? What, what are common pieces equipment that you would need? A rock. Okay. Yes. Feet. That's part of your body that comes with you. Finger nail. No, not finger nails. They actually get in your way. Extensions. Finger extensions. Yeah. No. All right. Underwear. Probably a good plan. Probably a good plan. Right. I got that wind. This isn't paragliding. This is rock climbing. I got wind. You know, it's just in case I fall back up. That doesn't work. Love. I have love in my heart. Do you want to be a baby? If I make you a baby, will you give me a baby? I don't want to give you the satisfaction. What do I have? I have shoes. Specifically climbing shoes. I have whatever I have. I whatever I afford. Climbing shoes, rock climbing shoes. I have a chalk. Good. Good. That's on the list. I have. I have a cage of rabbit wolves that are going to be at the bottom. So I never want to go back. All right. Some motivation. Got it. Yeah. Exactly. Motivation. And then I have a fleet of drones to film me as I go up. Okay. So you're documenting. Good. Good. Just 13 drones going really, really distracting. Yeah. Well, you're going to need your climbing rope. Right. Right. Right. I'm sorry. I didn't know it was bitch baby climbing. I thought we're free soloing here. Chalk. Yeah, I thought I said chalk, which you mentioned, why chalk though? Why is chalk important? It's for like to help protect your hands and grip. It's a two fold. Primarily for climbing chalk keeps your hands dry. No absorbs the sweat. Yeah. So that you're not slipping. It does help you so you don't blister and stuff like that. Sometimes you'll chalk your shoes as well, just if you're trying to keep your shoes from getting wet because you will sweat on them. You'll need your carabiners carabiners because that's how you secure yourself to the rope and the rope to the harness which you also need the climbing harness harness. If you're doing lead climbing, you need something called quick draws quick draw a quick draws of two carabiners with a fabric holding two of them together them together. So it's like climbing webbing and you you'll hook that into the different parts when you're lead climbing to then put the rope through. I see very important to make sure when you put the rope through that the part that's coming towards you is the part that's attached to you because if you go the other way and you fall when you're above that, it has the potential to unhook itself and then you would die. Good. So being able to properly use a quick draws important. Good. Climbing shoes actually are made to fit like shorter on your feet. So you have your toes are slightly curled, but they're very flexible so that and grippy they have rubber around towards the top so you can stick your feet in awkward positions and around stuff to be able to grip on. The climbing harness obviously goes around your waist and around your legs. Having that tight and secure is extremely important. And so when you fall, you literally get caught by the rope. That's good. I liked that. Then usually when you're having top rope climbing, you have a belayer, a person that is actually controlling your rope. So if you fall, they get pulled off the ground and you only go down slightly. Yeah, it's important for the person or thing to be around your same weight, because you know, most likely it's going to be human, but it could be an alien. Okay. Usually it's human. Okay. Your belayer will basically keep the slack out of the rope so that you don't have this whole bunch of rope that when you fall, you just suddenly go whoot and whip into the wall. We love whipping. Yeah, they'll also when you're lead climbing, give you slack so you can hook into the quick draws because that's important. Who needs? Now, if you're speed climbing, which is racing up a wall, there's auto belayer systems that are used for this. And the reason for this and speed climbing is usually a person can't keep up with the speed climbing. So these are used in competitions. And the competition for all of these things is all done in doormark. It's all in climbing. Yes. Yeah. So climbing locations, lead climbing, you need climbing walls with a minimum height of 12 meters or 39 feet, minimum length, 15 meters, 49 feet, and a minimum width of three meters 10 feet. That's for competition grade. Great. Speed climbing is a 15 meter 49 foot climbing wall specifically designed for speed climbing with very specific hold placements. It's so specialized that there's 15 pages of instructions and diagrams that are made by the IFSC to create this wall. Great. Have you ever watched speed climbing? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's fascinating to watch. It's so fast. It's so quick. Yeah, they're like just jumping, grab, jump, grab, jump. It's absolutely incredible. Yeah, it's pretty nuts. The things that people are able to do. It's almost like they they are going up a wall faster than you could run the distance, you know, sometimes they are just like hauling up the wall. Yeah, yeah. And then bouldering competitions has a specific climbing wall with four boulders that have between four and 12 handholds. And each boulder needs clearly marked with starting holds and then which one is the top, which is the ending part. How do you speed climb? How do I speed climb? Yes, I don't see I slow climb. That's what I do. I do really slow. I haven't gone climbing in a while. I probably should I go real slow and I don't do much and I try to make my muscles last. Well, speed climbing competitions are fascinating because it's literally your next to your opponent. Yeah. And you're racing up the wall with absolute speed. You have your auto belay system that doesn't assist you. The buzzer starts you. It'll beep one twice. And then you go and you just fly up the wall as fast as you can. If you watch speed climbing, basically, they are jumping the whole time like I described. And if you miss a hold, that's just the risk you have to take because in average, it's only about 6.5 seconds that these competitors reach the top. Damn. Damn. Yeah. Damn. Lead climbing is where you hook in yourself. This is this is the the fascinating climbing that I've never actually done. Yeah. Some people call it sport climbing, but it's still lead climbing. It's by yourself, right? No, you have a belayer at the bottom, but you have to as you're climbing, you go above where your hold for the rope is. So if you fall and you haven't hooked in yet to the next lead spot where you would hook in your quick draw, you will swing down lower. And this you need experience belayers for this, because it's not always about keeping the rope tight. Yeah. When somebody's falling, it's important to understand how to and when to slack the rope so that it absorbs their swings so that they don't just ram into the wall. Right. Right. Huh. But the fascinating thing about lead climbing is because you have to take your hand off the wall, you have to pull out your quick draw, which is attached to you, hook it in and then hook the rope in from there. Oftentimes, you'll see lead climbers put the rope in their mouth to hold the slack so that they can hook back in for safety. Fascinating. Yeah. I've also seen people do it with a sandbag. Really? Instead of a belayer, you know, they got like a tied to a big sandbag for like 100 pounds. And so that way, when they fall, it just goes slower. That's fascinating. I have never seen that. I saw it at a stronghold. There was some people there was just like big sandbags that people would bring in. Yeah. So wow. It's probably for walls are more vertical, you know, so it didn't have a lot of like, you know, coming back around. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. I mean, I guess that makes sense because it keeps them secure in one way. And they don't have to not necessarily like schedule to have somebody they trust with them. Yeah. Oh, I could not do that. Yeah. How do they secure to the sandbag? Because they have to get slack to do the. That's just what I've seen, man. That's what I saw. No way. Am I dumb? I'm dumb. That's for belayers that weigh a lot less than their person, their belaying, isn't it? Yeah. They hook in for security so that they don't get pulled back up with them. That's what it was. No, I think some people still did the sandbag by themselves. I'm pretty sure I saw that too. That just that just spells death. Maming. Very different. That spells death. And then bouldering is the one where you climb without a belayer, without a rope. Yeah. But it's short heights where you can basically jump off the wall and land and like tuck and roll. Right. Right. All right. Act three. Taken this shit over. Yeah. Look at me. Look at me. Everybody. Yeah. You know someone in your life, whose life is nothing but climbing. There's somewhere around you that climbs every day, religiously. It is their religion. And they are dying. They're dying to recruit another one into their cult of climb. This is what happened to me with Tyler here. Right. All of you who have been listening to this in terms of like, oh, man, this is cool to know about the sport. How do I get into? There's nothing more accessible than bouldering or just rock climbing in general. But be warned. Those that climb, that's all they do. That's all they do. It's a drug and they keep chasing it. And then they're like, yeah, just come to the gym. We'll go to the gym. Oh, it's great. Bouldering's great. Ah, let's go outside. Just go outside and boulder. It's such a nice day. Let's go out there. Let's go out there. Let's go in a mountain. Let's go in a mountain. Yeah. Let's go up a mountain. You like a mountain. No, where it's like a, it's like an incline. It's not straight up. Oh, wait. Oops. We got here straight up. I forgot the rope. We're free. So all the way. Ha ha. Come on. Reach right at the top. That's the life cycle. No, no, no, no. Okay. I mean, I did just for you solo the first flat iron and Colorado with my brother, which was really fun. Oh, see, why was I wrong? Was I wrong? That's how it goes for all of them. That's how it goes for every single one of them. They'll get you. Listen, I've been climbing since I was in diapers. That's what it is. That's what you do. No, but climbing is such it. Mark did say it. It's very accessible. There are climbing gyms everywhere. You literally don't need somebody to go with. You can go to a bouldering gym and climb. It's very self-explanatory. And even if it isn't, they're very accepting people. We talked about it in the podcast episode with Alex Honald about how like supportive and welcoming climbing, the climbing community is to the point to where like, they'll give you stuff. Yeah. Like, if you don't have it or you forget something, it's like, oh, you can have some of my water. Oh, you can use this. But it's fascinating. The world of climbing is so open. Like, most of this that we're talking about, the competitive climbing is done indoors. But you can just go out and find a rock face near you. You can find a rock that you just want to climb onto that you can jump on. That's how most people get started in climbing. Trees. Like, that's what I did. Yeah. Do you just as a kid, you want to climb? Because it's like just in our nature to climb. And then you grow up and you get heavier. And you can't climb as good. And so it's sad because you'll never be as good as you were as a kid. What was the most difficult climb you got to before you stopped climbing, Mark? I got to like a V5, basically in bouldering, that's like a third of the way up to what they go to. And it's like, it's logarithmic. So when it gets to like past a V5, you're upside down. You've got your pinching with two fingers going. You got like a V8 or nine. You're just going, oh, no, there's no rocks here. Oh, well, in your hands, just stick to the wall and you're going. Yeah. That's that's eventually you'll work up to there. Yeah. What about in top rope? Top rope? I mean, I haven't done too much of that. It's only a stuff with an audible A. So maybe like, what is it like? What's the rating system I forget? It's five and then a number. So like I, I just did a five, 10 when I was in Virginia. That'd probably be about what I did. None. I did a five, 20. This don't exist. They do now. The best I've ever hit, Mark was a five, 11, b. Five, 11, b. What a stupid numbering system. I, it came up with that. I don't know, I don't know. But I understand like the top rope ratings, more than I understand bouldering ratings. But like, there's fascinating like language that comes with climbing. We won't get into, but climbing is fundamentally fun and it's self-fulfilling. Yeah. You don't have to compete against anybody else. You're competing against you from the past and improving. Every time you climb, you get better. Yeah. And going with somebody who hasn't climbed or is afraid of heights or stuff is the most motivating thing for me. I love going climbing with somebody and just being like seeing them accomplish something and be like, yeah, see, see, this is the thing. This is the thing you have that person in your life, everyone listening and watching out there that is just waiting for a chance for you to say the word rock and you to say like climb. It doesn't have to be together in any way. They'll just perk up like, we're proud of their noise. And then they'll make their way towards you. But it's fun. It is fun. It's very fun. You want to start doing it weekly with me? Busy. I'm busy. I want to go once a week. Busy. I'm busy. After, though, I do. I should. And they're like, that would be nice. If we could actually go a gym that has nice, like, top rope, which the one, um, like in. So they have, they have pretty nice top rope and lead climbing area. It's very large. Bigger than **** was. So yeah. Oh, nice. I was looking up gyms and trying to find which ones had top rope. And the only one that I saw over there was like just bouldering. So I'd, I'd have to check it out. There's a, it's relatively new as of the last time that I went, which was maybe like a half a year, you, oh, almost a year ago now. But it's very nice. Cool. I'll keep that in mind. That's it. That's the climbing primer. Anything you want to add about rock climbing other than the coltish nature of it and the fact that you get something. Get ready for a dome chroming. That's the next, that's the next. That's where you got silver spray paint. You go to the top of half dome. Actually, I wanted to do the half dome hike. You want a dome chrome? You want to go dome chroming? Yeah. Let's do, let's go dome chrome. Wait. Should we recruit Wade? He loves exercise. He loves physical activity. That guy, man, just, oh, fitness. Actually, he was getting in shape a little bit there. I can't, I can't shit on him too much. Then he, I probably stopped but. Yeah. Anyway, that's going to be the end of this episode. If you want to go see more of us or see some clips from the podcast, you can check out the YouTube channel. But you can check out our YouTube channels. Mark's over at Mark Clarem. I'm over at whatever the hell my YouTube is anymore. And you can get some sweet merch to support the podcast as well. Are you talking about the GMFST phone finger bundle? Yeah, the infinity finger, finger deal. We're still working on the, the phone finger finger. That's in R&D. It's a very technical process. The amount of foam that we need to concentrate in such a tiny area to adapt our tolerances is, I would buy you on. We got to make sure it fits perfectly on the other fingers finger. Perfect. Exactly. And none of the other fingers. Yeah, only the one finger. Because only you can finger sports. That's true. Yeah, that's true. store.gmfst.com. Use code to finger it. Check out for your finger. Good time. Mm hmm. All right. I think people should just do that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I don't know why they're still here. They should be at store.gmfst.com. Yeah, what? Voice going on. Bye. Bye.