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George, what do you do?
I am the producer of this show.
I'm the person who puts the notes together.
I edit the podcast I hang out with Dylan for around about an hour and a half every other
week to do this podcast.
And this is another week.
Another week, as you can tell, by the title of the audio version of the podcast, this
is my interview, our interview with Brad Williams.
It's not mine.
I'm not there.
It's yours.
Well, you're part of you, the producer extraordinaire.
Thank you.
Thank you.
As I have you in my notes.
Because of a scheduling conflict and real life stuff and all of that jazz, we just couldn't
make a new interview workout.
So we wanted to throw an interview that maybe you haven't listened to or maybe you didn't
want to sit down and watch two little people in front of your screen.
So you just wanted the audio version.
This is your show.
This is your opportunity to do so.
I was going to say this is also going to set up something that we have planned later on.
Would it be?
Yeah.
Part two.
Part two, as they say, of Brad and I sitting down once again for a little small talk to
be great.
It would cover, fill all the gaps from this episode to that episode to cover everything
that happened on the Jericho cruise.
And yes, we did just talk about the Jericho cruise.
But now you'll also hear all of the planning that went into the spots that happened between
Dylan and Brad.
You get to hear Brad side of it.
You get to hear about everything beyond the Jericho cruise.
It's this interview is is one of my favorites because like the the Jeremy interview, Jeremy
Smith, which is on youtube.com slash Dylan Postle, like the Jeremy interview.
It seems like our growing ups are very, very similar.
Obviously, two little people growing up and just what we went through and all of that.
But it just makes me like it makes me things like that make me laugh to myself.
And after I whenever I finish up the interviews, it's always like, oh man, there are people
like me as as weird as that is to think about it.
I do literally go, man, I'm I'm not alone in this.
And it's just a fun thing.
So I definitely wanted to get this interview out there in podcast form as well, just audio
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And yeah, because it was very, very special to to sit down with him and have a hang out.
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I'm Dylan Postel.
And here, that's not another screen of me.
That's Brad Williams.
Hi, buddy.
Oh my God, people are seeing double and this is this is the official dwarf podcast.
Marco, me, Ruff and Rowdy.
Yeah, this is the show.
This is the showcase of the immortals.
We need we man next.
He's got to be coming up.
He got that WrestleMania push.
So I don't, he might be way above me now.
He did, man.
And it's crazy because if we had a, if we ever had something to wear me, you and we
man went the same place at the same time, I'm pretty sure that's when the universe just
explodes.
That's awesome.
Awesome.
Well, thank you again.
You're busy as hell and I appreciate it for, for, for doing this on this small platform,
as I say.
So, like, so you and I, we never met until like a long time in us talking and that.
Yeah.
And I was talking to, uh, Marco kind of about that too, because him and I didn't meet until
we wrestled and it's just the power of social media and how crazy social media and all of
that is sliding into DMS and all of that.
And it's just funny how I was like, man, I feel like Brad's my buddy.
But we've never met until you did the comedy show locally.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I felt, I felt the same way where we had been talking like for over a year or something
like that.
And, and we hadn't actually met.
So then when we finally did meet, it was kind of like just seeing an old friend and,
and we, oh, wait, no, this is the first time we've ever met.
And people were actually in the audience of that show just, just being like, oh, fuck,
they are different people.
I had no idea.
So I'm doing this show in Vegas now.
Uh, uh, it's called Mad Apple.
It's a circle solace show.
Um, but I'm not doing like, I'm not doing certain stuff.
I'm not like being shot out of a cannon.
Like we like, imagine if we could be shot out of a cannon, like how, how amazing that
would be.
How much farther they could shoot us?
Oh, I don't even want to say it out loud because I, I think the certain people might be listening
and they'll like, get an idea and be like, all right, we got something for it.
But, um, uh, so it's in Vegas.
It's a New York, New York hotel, get tickets.
I'm doing stand up comedy in it.
Uh, great.
Okay.
There's the pitch.
Uh, but we'll do it.
We're going to plug the shit out of everything today.
Yeah.
So at the end of the show, I, I, I do meet and greets, uh, where I, I just see everyone
who was just in the show.
And still, still people come up and go like, man, what, what a career.
Uh, you were in the WWE now wrestle, like then wrestle mania.
And now you're doing stand up and now you're doing a search show.
And I, I, I just have to look at them every time.
Be like, no, there's more than, there's more than three of us.
It's, it's crazy.
And the fact that we both have beards now, like we both can clean shaven.
Now we both have beards.
Now people don't, they think you're doing, they think we're doing like an Elias Ezekiel
thing.
That's what, that's what they think is happening right now.
I get Peter Dinklage at least once a week when I'm going through the airports.
Always fucking Peter Dinklage.
And then which made like the stuff a few months ago, even better that I could finally
just say, Hey, fuck Peter Dinklage.
Yeah.
But it was like, man, every week it's Peter Dinklage, Peter Dinklage.
And I said, I can't shave my head because my hair is not coming back.
It's my, my hairline starts about here.
Yeah.
And that will just start the we man stuff even more.
Yeah.
Like I'm very glad I didn't follow my, my high school, like dreams of skateboarding.
Because I was so shitty at it.
Because I didn't even work.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no chance.
There's no chance there.
Yeah.
And like him, he was like, he's such like a hero of mine in high school and growing up.
Like right on a high school, I love like I'm still a jackass fanatic.
Because that's, that's like our childhood.
And so it's even cooler.
I was supposed to box him on SummerSlam in 2000, it would have been seven.
Jacks was doing like an invasion of WWE.
Wow.
And they were going to do this whole thing where like a big six man match and then one
of the matches on SummerSlam was going to be boxing me versus we men.
Which it would have just been like the doing spot over and over.
I have a feel like.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, they, that's really interesting to see what would have happened there.
Especially because it was skinny Dylan then.
It's not like really Dylan as a career in years.
So it would have been even even weirder.
I just figure Vince backing gorilla just like midget boxing.
This is some good shit.
So when I would do the under the ring stuff, he hates the term midget.
Really?
Yeah, Kevin done a headset called me the midget one time.
We need to get the midget out from under the ring.
Goddamn it.
He has a name.
And I was like, ha ha ha.
He fucking.
Wow.
This is the best.
He hates the word midget.
It's a wow.
Yeah.
I love hearing that.
Like every.
I swear you could make a Chicago Bulls last dance 10 part documentary series just about
Vince and I want that to happen.
There's so many stories I hear that are like, Oh God.
And then there's so many stories in here.
They're like, Oh, hey, that's good.
It's very this and this.
There's not a little ground.
Yeah, that's odd.
But now, but now he just did something that kind of warms my heart.
That's right.
Warms my cockles.
Well, I got to ask some some real life stuff because I did real life at times, especially
because we are very similar in.
I mean, we're the same person, essentially.
Yeah.
And then I realized you in 1984, I thought you were younger than me, but you're older.
And that makes me feel even better about myself at times.
Only of dwarves only dwarf what what's the situation?
Sure.
My parents are all tall.
I'm the only dwarf in the family.
No dwarf siblings.
So yeah, it was like everyone just kind of when I was born, like all my all my parents'
friends were like, Oh, how how does this happen?
I don't know.
Yeah, it like they had so many questions that it like you if you if it was on a TV show,
no one would believe that anyone would ever actually ask that question.
It was normal.
It was normal to ask how does this work?
Yeah.
And now it's you can't.
I mean, I love asking it.
Yes, I don't care.
I am.
I always say if I can ask it because I'm messed up as well.
So it's okay for me to ask.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But all all all people and then found little people of America LPA a little bit later in
life, like six, seven years old.
And then that blew my mind that there are other little people in the world and you would
like show up and there there would be like this mixture of emotions in your head of,
Oh my God, this is amazing.
There's other people just like me.
And there's also that emotion of, Oh, wait, I'm not special anymore.
It didn't it at times.
I mean, it didn't.
My parent, I got introduced to it like at like 11 10 or 11.
Yeah.
Into the conventions and man, that first national convention where there's just like
thousands of us, it's very like, Oh man, because I'm not used to, I'm very small time
Wisconsin, as you know, I saw one in my life, one other one in my life.
And it was like, man, this is very, it's a weird.
It was a weird feeling.
Yeah.
It's like, this isn't the norm, but it should be the norm for it.
It was just a weird, exactly what you said and not a forced, but it's like, man, it's
almost like, am I supposed to feel like included now?
It was very, it's just an odd feeling.
Yeah.
And then, I mean, when you start going around 11 12, then it's a whole another dynamic because
then for the whole year, you becoming teenager, you start becoming interested in girls, guys,
whatever the hell you're into.
And then you're, you're always like friend zone.
And then all of a sudden you go to the convention and for a week, you're hot.
I was hot as shit for a week.
And I loved it.
Third year, you're all Dylan was riding high.
Yeah.
It's like now girls look at you and they're like, Oh no, like Dylan's sexy.
And you're like, what?
And you're just, and you're so confused by the whole thing to go like to be friend zone
for an entire year.
And then people like, I like you, but not in that way.
And then all of a sudden you go and you're a fucking boy band member.
It's really a mind trip, man.
It's really a mind trip.
And I feel that you and I both then like now we're at a point where we're like, okay,
comfortable around all little people around all tall people, whatever, like doesn't make
any difference.
But like at that time in my life, it was very strange to be around all, all, all little
people for one week out of the year, two weeks out of the year, and then back into the quote
unquote normal world for the rest of the time.
It is.
Like you said, you feel like top dog at those because I mean, it's your community.
Then you go back to exactly.
And like then the friend zone is even worse.
Yeah.
And it's like even like, I wish you would have seen me.
I wish you would see there.
I was running game there.
Now I'm just the shoulder to cry.
No, and it's just, but I, I really enjoyed them as a teenager.
Yeah.
Because of that, I think most.
I never did like the sports or that or that kind of, but I love the dances.
I love hanging out.
Yeah.
Girls, I love that.
But then it became like, oh man, I went to my, the last one was the summer of my senior
year in high school.
And then I was like, okay, I'm too cool for these now.
I'm above it.
Yeah.
And now, and now like have you been so young and been back at all?
I never have.
So they, when I first got hired by WWE, they didn't like it because of portraying a leprechaun.
I was not liked.
And I was like, but I'm like, I've cash, like this is my, if they knew it was my dream job,
I think it would have been a little different, probably not.
But then it's like, so I still never went.
I've never went.
Have you like, I feel like you would kill at one of those things.
So first off talking about you in terms of like your, your portraying a leprechaun.
What I would argue back is like, it's the WWE.
You got Kamala doing this.
You think he's really from the, no, he's not there.
He's not from Uganda.
Like the WWE is the most inclusive because it's at the same time the most racist.
Like everyone, everything, everyone is walking stereotype.
Everyone was.
Well, I'm actually just in an interview on the network saying like up until now, if you
were a black wrestler.
Yeah.
You were either a militant or a dancer.
And I was like, oh my God, he's not wrong.
And then we think back and you're like, oh my God, Coco, beware, nation of domination.
Yeah.
I'm a Johnson crazy man.
Go through and you're like, oh fuck, Lashley's right.
And every person from Europe was always a bad guy and always he'd have the run of the
top as he hates America and then right to bed card.
Yep.
And you hear that and you go, oh fuck that.
It's like it's a crazy realization, but then I so I would say that for the people that didn't
like you and said like, oh, you were exploiting yourself or whatever.
I'd be like, yeah, everyone did.
So you are equal.
You are equal.
You are just like everybody else, which is what which is what we're going for.
And I had a similar trajectory as you where when I first started doing stand up and getting
a little bit of notoriety from it.
LPA, not a fan and they hadn't even seen the show.
They hadn't seen they hadn't seen what I was talking about.
What were they against?
Just you two jokes about you about the community?
Because and I found this out later when this is a fun story.
I actually got protested.
I got protested by LPA.
Not I want to show this.
Please tell me.
Please tell me it wasn't a bunch of little people would pick at science.
Well, they were three by five card.
I'm free next cards.
Yes.
The local chapter.
I was doing a show at a comedy club in the LaVonie, Michigan.
It's not there anymore.
It was called it was called Joey's comedy club.
And the local chapter of LPA found out about it and protested my show and came out and
was and I went out to talk to them because they're like you have four protesters outside
and I was like fuck yes, this is going to be hilarious.
So I went outside and I talked to them and I was like why?
Like why do you not like me?
And they go because you're exploiting yourself and you say the word major and you and you're
setting us back and I go okay.
I go have you seen my show?
Do you know what I do?
And they go well no.
But we know but and I'm like they so I invited them in at the time I wasn't selling as many
tickets as I am now.
So there was plenty of seats available.
Lots of cars.
Yeah.
So I was like hey, come see the show.
Tell me what you think.
The vast majority of them did not they said no, we're not going to go watch your show and
I'm like okay.
So you're just going to live in here.
It's great.
But two people did.
Two of the little people did come in.
They saw the show and when the show was done they're like okay, we get it now.
We get what you're doing because the same way you as a leprechaun is actually a quality
for little people in terms of you're being treated just like everybody else.
With stand up, I'm allowed to tell the story.
There's no writer, there's no producer, there's no tall person.
It's like yeah, but I don't know if they're going to like that.
It's just me.
It's just my story.
I don't think they would love that even more.
Yes.
And once they did, once they did, those people told some people a few years later, I actually
went back to the convention.
I performed stand up at the convention and that's when they all went.
Oh, we were wrong.
This is what this guy's doing.
Oh yeah.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
That's like, yeah, I kind of went through a couple.
That's an incredible.
Things like that, it's glad that they did that, but it's also good to be able to shove
it.
Like, hey, I told you the whole time.
It felt really good.
I'm not poking fun at the community.
I'm having fun.
I'm making light of life of what could be horrible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And because I, and you probably know this, it's a very similar community wrestlers and
comedians.
You know that when wrestlers all get together or when comedians all get together, there's
no sensitivity.
There's no, I can't talk about Dylan's dwarfism.
No, none of that.
Everything's on the table.
They're joking about my dwarfism.
I'm joking about that that she's a trans comic.
They were making black jokes or making Asians.
Like we're all just obliterating each other, but it is out of so much love and equality.
Like if a non-comedian or a non-wrestler walked into the group and went, oh, look at
this fucking midget.
We say it would all turn.
Man, it all turns.
Ethan Page, Ethan Page and I have become like best friends.
Yeah.
And same as Kurt Hawkins, Brian Myers.
Yeah.
And, and they often say me like, man, this, if, if other people, they're like, yeah, they
like with, with out of our group, new, we'd be done.
Like we like, especially me, because I don't give a shit.
I've, I always say I've heard enough shit all my life.
I'm now, it's almost like now I got to fire back.
Now I got to be tough for all that time.
Now I can finally pick up for all that time.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's crazy that like, and if someone heard those conversations as an outsider, they'd
be like, oh my God, they're, they're racist or sexist.
They're homophobic, the transphobic, they're, they're misogynistic, whatever.
And then, but when you're in those conversations, you, you realize, no, no, no, no, no, this
is what true equality is.
Everyone is on the same level.
We're all making fun of each other equally.
And ourselves.
And ourselves.
Yeah.
Okay with it.
Because we're included.
Like, zap.
Yes.
Because we're included in the group for probably the one of the first times in our lives.
Yep.
As exactly what you said, as equal, we can joke with each other about other things on an
equal platform.
That's, that's exactly it.
A hundred percent it.
Yeah, man.
What, we were talking a little bit about your bringing that.
I went through major health stuff as a lot of dwarves do.
Did you go through back issues, ear stuff, anything?
I was very lucky.
I only had one dwarf related surgery as a kid.
It was on my ankle.
I had a boat ankle and they straightened it out.
Yeah, I didn't, I really didn't have anything.
Now I'm going through back stuff now, but it's more of, it's like muscles stuff and it's
in, and maybe you relate to this.
It's because I'm a comedian.
I don't lift shit.
I lift a microphone like that's the most work I do.
Maybe my bag when I'm traveling and that's about it.
But then I started lifting my daughter every day.
She was 25 up up and down, up and down, up and down.
I almost put wheels on when Lana was a baby on the car seat.
So because as a dwarf, getting it out of the car and then carrying it, you have to
two hand it.
I almost put wheels on the bottom just because I could roll it like next to me.
Like a little smaller stroller.
I was like, this sucks sucks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So that's what got me now.
But the cool part about being in a surface so they show you can kind of relate to this
being in WWE, I hope so at least.
Surface so they has free physical therapy.
I show up and they're just like, Oh, you're hurting today?
Hold on.
And then they just work on me.
I'm like, ah, this is great.
You give me exercise to strengthen the back and the past like month has just been an insane,
insane, dramatic improvement.
Good.
That's incredible.
I had a feeling, but that's that's awesome.
Good.
Good.
Good.
So growing up entertainment always on your mind, that kind of thing or what I wanted to
be a wrestler since I was four.
I then thought I'm never going to get hired.
I need to back up plan and like in 2004, I got and that test you take X-ray technician
was the highest paying thing.
I was like, I'm going to go to school to be an X-ray tech.
No, it did not happen.
Thank God.
I just quit college, but I always wanted to do it.
Is that same kind of similar for you?
Yeah.
I always, I didn't know I wanted to be a comedian, but I wanted to be show business.
Do you think that's because being out in California?
I mean, I don't know what it was.
I think it was just the fact that as a little person, people would stare at me all day.
And in my mind, I'm just like, I want to do something that controls the message.
I don't want them to stare at me.
And then they write the story.
I want to tell the story.
I want to tell them the truth.
So we don't hear, it's an old half joke, but we all experienced it.
We don't hear the bullshit of a kid stepping and the mom going, oh, he didn't eat his vegetables
or he didn't drink his milk or blah, blah, blah, blah.
God didn't make all of him.
Yeah.
What, what, wait, sneezed.
I was like, oh, it's done.
Do you mind?
I would say, no, you didn't put, give him arms or legs.
He put it right on his ass.
That's exactly where he put all of the clay because God just, God just make use like silly
body yet for to make people.
So he took no arm, no arm there.
Just put it on his ass.
That was skull.
That's all they got.
Yeah.
Hi.
Yeah.
Hi, we made us.
Yeah, so I always want to do something and then I saw Eddie Murphy raw and a friend of mine
showed me that tape and I, and I watched that and I'm like, oh man, this, this standup
comedy, this is awesome.
But it's like, if someone said, hey, like when you were a kid, you wanted to be in the
WWE, how do you get there?
Like, how do you, how do you become Eddie Murphy?
Like how do you become, like how do you be a standup comedian?
You don't really know.
And it's not like we had these sorts of podcasts or interviews or stuff like that, which now
you can like find detailed information how to be a pro wrestler, how to be a comedian,
how to be aware.
So you just kind of had to, but like I would do stand up in like talent shows as a kid,
like the high school talent shows and shit like that.
And do you feel like you killed it?
Do you feel you killed it?
Yeah.
I did.
Hell yes.
Thank you for saying that and admitting it because most people, it was the shit.
No, that's awesome.
Hell yeah.
No, I will say that I killed for me.
Like as a 17 year old kid who had only done standup like twice or once or whatever, it
was really good for that.
I'm sure I would watch it now and be like, like I was like, I just hate it.
But at the time I was like, Oh no, that was good.
That was fine.
And then, and then for Father's Day in 2004, I, my dad and I went to go see a comedian
at the Bray improv and the comedian starts making major jokes.
I have the same notes.
Yeah.
And then the audience is laughing and then the audience that's sitting around me is just
like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like they're trying to
like, no, don't do that.
And he notices this because why aren't you guys laughing?
He goes, what is one of them here?
And I just raised my hand.
He sees me and he calls me up on stage and he starts asking me questions.
I'm not trying to be funny.
I just am talking and he, I answer the questions and my answer's got laps.
Like he said, like, Hey, what do you do for a living?
And at the time growing up in Orange County, every, every Orange County kid at some point
works at Disneyland.
I worked at Disneyland.
I said, I said I will you do not.
I did.
That's awesome.
I said I work at Disneyland.
The audience laughs and I turned to them and I go, fuck you.
I'm not one of the seven.
And then they start laughing harder and I'm like, oh, that's a good feeling.
And literally after that, I was like, this is what I got to do.
I got to do stand up comedy.
So I started looking up open mic nights.
My first open mic was the laugh factory in Hollywood.
It was a Tuesday.
You show up at noon to sign up.
And then you wait like five hours and you do a show at five o'clock for no people.
And that's that's that's your introduction.
And that's how and that's how you start kind of like, you know, going through the indies
and going to the schools where you're just you're wrestling in front of nobody.
Nobody.
It's weird.
Like there's no really there's so there's no real.
I mean, that's that's your try out.
If you're lucky enough that someone of substance is watching, but there's no tryouts, right?
And kind of like, yeah, yeah, it's not a tryout per se.
It's because there's very few times and stand up where someone can just see you and be like,
yes, you are funny.
Now here is opportunities like that.
That's like that's not necessarily happening.
So it's it's more a tryout for yourself to just go on stage and see what you want to
do it.
And I remember the first time I did it, I was like, yeah, this, I like this.
And that was 18 years ago.
Well, a funny thing I I I I found that story about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My friend took me to see big J. O'Kerson.
Love him.
Love it.
That at that same place you were at and were like front row.
Yeah.
Front or second row.
And he starts talk like making midget jokes.
Yeah.
I feel like the hair on my arm starts standing up and I feel eyes and I'm going, oh, shit.
And then he like locks eyes with me.
And he goes, oh, there's one here.
And like finds out who like who I like horn, soil stuff and that kind of thing.
And it was very much like it almost stopped him in his tracks.
And it was like, Oh, I was feeling with one.
And this doesn't happen.
That's incredible.
It's a yeah.
And big J is all about crowd work.
That's what that's one of the things he does.
So that's that's very interesting to me that you would have a moment of like, Oh, fuck, like
I normally just say this.
Yeah, it was very it was it was that but it was like a stop in the tracks.
And it was a oh, but but instantly kept going kept going kept going.
He was so good, man.
He was so good.
I instantly love them.
One of the nicest guys you'll ever meet.
You'll ever talk to.
Yeah, just an absolute sweetheart of a person.
That's cool, man.
I love that.
And I love because I know his crowd work comes from a from a good place.
Like even when he's making fun, it's it's like a positive thing.
So I like that.
I like that he I like that he did that with you and you had the similar experience.
Was it always was it always wrestling for you?
So there was never really a backup plan?
No, never literally I was four years old.
I said, I want to be a pro wrestler because and it's like weird.
So I'm doing a lot of stuff right now with the major wrestling figure podcast and all
the end wrestling figures is what made me want to be a wrestler because my brother played
with wrestling figures.
And I was like the older brother, you always steal their toys and this.
And so I stole his wrestling figures to play with them.
And then my parents got me the wrestling figures, the first series and like.
I always say if it weren't for wrestling figures, I wouldn't be a pro wrestler, which is very
weird.
But like, yes, I was bored.
And then I had back surgery right after that.
Like when I was four and six paralyzed me.
The first thing the doctor said was no contact sports and no trampolines.
And I obviously didn't I always like laugh.
I was like, obviously I didn't listen.
And yeah.
Yeah, but no, I had zero back a plan.
And I don't know if you can believe this or not, but Oshkosh, Wisconsin isn't quite
the hotbed of wrestling.
It's not quite where they're like scouting professional wrestlers.
Yeah.
Overall, a trucking system and dairy.
And that's it.
We don't really.
So it's it man.
It was it was a very big pipe dream and it was very much right place, right time for,
you know, when I got trained and then they were looking for for a leprechaun to let his
let him live his dream, of course.
Yeah.
And it was supposed to be six months.
Like literally when I got hired this and this six month gig and it got crazy.
And that's incredible because if people have watched WWE and especially during that time,
they would do the gig a lot where two big time wrestlers would be feuding.
And then one would make fun of the other one by bringing out the mini version of that.
And it was it was usually this guy named.
George Lee Samson.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sure.
It's Lee Samson.
And he would usually be the mini undertaker or the mini, whatever.
Everything.
Everything but mini Booker T.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For obvious reasons.
That was a place even WWE wouldn't go.
Yeah.
For midge.
Cuz they have for everything else.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For everybody else.
Yeah.
That's fine.
But so the fact that you came in and they've never really had like maybe the.
The next mini was literally it and that was or dink when they had dink.
That was that's about it.
And that's all the references they had.
And then you came in.
I like I don't know how uncomfortable you are taking compliments.
But it's kind of crazy that you came in.
Every other dwarf that comes in is a one off God.
One off God.
One off God.
And you came in and had longevity and are now like there.
I see the belt in the case behind you.
It's fucking cool.
Like it's stuff that I stop to think about when I'm doing stand up.
Where I stop and go like, holy shit, like I can only think of one dwarf comedian before
me.
Tangily Davis, who's great, who's fantastic.
And now she's having a little bit of a renaissance.
She's like growing up on TikTok, which is so fucking cool for her.
And so like when I got past the comedy store, I'm like, I'm the first dwarf at the comedy
store.
And then they go, nope.
And they look up on the wall and there's Tangily Davis killing it.
It's a.
Yeah, there's like no other.
I don't ever let myself.
It's just because who I am.
I've watched four matches of mine in my whole career.
I hate it.
I hate it.
I hate how I look.
I hate that I pick apart everything Monday morning.
Like I will not watch my stuff back for different format.
That's it.
But it didn't hit me to be honest until I got released.
And then and then people like dads are bringing their kids.
And as much as it makes me feel old as shit, the kids have watched me on YouTube and that
kid.
And Brian Myers Hawkins, he goes, I'm because he's been a best friend of mine for years
now.
Yeah, he's at the table next to me.
And he goes, they weren't even born when you had your run.
Like you were fired before they're born.
Yeah.
And they still know of you.
And like that's that's where it's so crazy to me because of the YouTube and the WWE network
and peacock now where it's like, man.
This is WWE is legit forever lasting.
Like yeah, positive or negative.
It's forever lasting.
Have you had any scenarios where another dwarf wrestler is training and being like, yeah,
I'm here because I saw a born swaddle do it.
Yeah.
And it makes me feel really fucking old.
Yeah.
Like I've wrestled two of them and they go, man, I watched you as a kid.
And all I wanted to do was be you and I go.
But think about think about what you just said.
Because that's an insane thing.
I don't think about that.
No, and I try not to either.
I can't because it'll trick me the fuck out and I'll just lock my door and I'll cry in
my room all day.
And you think about the fact that there was a, there was no little person out there.
Because I've had it happen with me as well where I was at the, I was Montreal Comedy Festival
and a dwarf in a wheelchair came up to me and started talking to me like, hey, big fan,
pop up, pop up.
And I'm like, oh, awesome man.
Thank you so much.
And I go, oh, so you're here like seeing the comedy festival goes, no, I'm in the comedy
festival.
Like, and I'm like, fuck yeah, hell yeah.
And then he stopped and goes, I started doing stand up because I saw you do stand up and
now I'm at the Montreal Comedy Festival.
And I'm just like, oh, I'm like, I'm about to burst in the tears.
Like, because these, these guys would be wrestlers or comics didn't think they could
do that until they saw you, until they saw me.
Oh, you know, and then they start doing that.
So it's, it, it's a trip and it's those times when you think you stop and you go, oh, I'm,
I'm doing, I'm going on stage for fuck all reasons.
Like, I'm like, I'm going on because that's my job.
It's what I do.
It's how it's how I make a paycheck.
It's a lot, it's a lot of fun.
And then you stop and go, oh wait, it actually does have.
That's, that's the crazy part is when you realize, because I, man, I say it all the time, I am
Dylan from Oshkosh to this day.
And when you realize it's way bigger than that, it's crazy.
Yeah, it's nuts.
And now the, the, the, the forces, the forces will collide on the Jericho cruise in 2023.
So we took a break because I'm still very, very cheap and I haven't bought the upgraded
version of Zoom.
I'm not making that stand up comedy money at Showtime money.
I am making currently Oshkosh Wisconsin money.
But hopefully after this, I'm going to upgrade.
I'm going to upgrade after this interview because it's going to do gangbusters.
I know it.
Dude, but you're making Oshkosh money, but your, your Oshkosh money can afford a lot more
at Oshkosh than my money can afford in LA.
That's for damn sure.
Good job.
We don't need to get into that.
And we, but yeah, it's already announced.
So we're not keeping any kind of secrets here.
Both you, both you and I, if you really think that this is all fake and he and Dylan and
I are doing like some sort of Ezekiel Elias thing, we will be the same place at the same
time on the Jericho cruise 2023.
I have it in, I mean, my notes because I'm goddamn professional.
Look at that.
I do notes now.
Yeah.
I'm going to, like, this is going to be the craziest thing I've done.
I've never been on a cruise.
Really?
I, I, I, yeah.
And then fighting you, you're not a fighter or a wrestler.
You're a fighter.
Like, it's going to be awesome.
And I don't feel that the people on the cruise are going to excel.
I don't know what they expect, but it's going to blow their expectations.
Absolutely, man.
Now, it's not a dwarf question.
This is just a question.
Can you swim?
So the Colby Kingston asked me this.
Colby Kingston asked me this.
I've proven to him and a lot of people are on me.
I'm a hell of a swimmer.
Like, okay, I'm a very, I love swimming.
I'm real good at swimming.
And I feel like our people are good at swimming because we have to.
And a very young age, we have to be.
Yeah.
And still to this day, if we get, like, land in my son, he passed me, I think, at like
six years old.
Yeah.
And so I was like, hey, dad, let's go play at.
Let me, let me rant for a second.
Can we stop building these pools with the basketball hoops?
And the basketball hoops are in the fucking deep section?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Adults want to play that, but then adults bully other adults and they hit each other and
get into fights.
Children are hiding children with love to play basketball on these hoops.
You don't need a deep basketball hoop area.
You don't need it.
No, no.
I would love to play basketball with my son.
This is the one time I can play fucking basketball and pool.
Yeah.
That, that and like, yeah, he's got the high advantage, but in the pool, you can body him.
So yeah, the first time, the first time he's not slam dunking on the hoop because he's going
to be hauled down by the gravity of water or whatever science calls it.
Yeah.
It's not going to happen.
Let's start right now on canceling pools.
I'm putting a cancel culture on public swimming pools with basketball hoops.
I'm canceling all of them.
They need in the three foot section, not the four foot section.
Yeah, yeah, because now we got to get the ball, get out of the water.
I'm here.
Run.
Oh, that's even worse.
And have you ever seen our people get out of the pool?
It looks like a really fat otter.
Like, because we have to, we can't just jump up and put our feet on.
We jump our bellies and then scoot and then push up.
Yeah.
I'm just, I knew because it helps my belly and it makes me feel about myself.
It's a whole thing.
It's, it's, I'm glad that you and I while experiencing all the aspects of dwarfism can
still laugh at all the aspects of dwarfism.
You kind of touched on it earlier in the interview when we talked about going to LPA conventions
and they have sporting events.
Now you didn't do the sporting events, but I, but I will say I did dwarf track funniest
thing you're ever going to see in your entire life.
The best funniest thing.
The best.
Uh, dwarf basketball also very funny because none of us know how to rebound because why
the fuck would we?
No.
So it's just like bumping into each other.
Yeah.
So we're just waiting for the ball like this.
No one's skying up grabbing the ball and coming down and like Carl Malone style Dennis Robin
kicking the legs out.
None of that.
We're just all waiting for the ball and all the people are like, rebound.
We're like, we don't.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We don't know.
We don't know how to do that.
So yeah, those, those are the funniest things like basically the dwarf track, uh, whatever
dwarves run against each other.
It just looks like five Super Mario brothers got the star at the same time.
We're just, I never thought of that in my life that a dwarf running is literally Super
Mario.
On the smaller one, obviously not, not, not gross.
I feel like it's Super Mario two where he still looks very short and stocky because the
small one still has the short appendages and he's tiny.
There you go.
Mario two, he's a shorter guy.
That's kind of husky.
Also why don't, why isn't there husky jeans anymore?
I grew up on fucking 26 Husky.
Yeah, that was me.
Now there's no Husky.
We canceled husky jeans.
Well, I mean, cause I think, cause they don't call them fat fuck jeans.
Fat fuck jeans would sell, uh, someone out there, if you got a clothing line, make yourself
some fat fuck jeans.
I think this is a, hey, that did a minute.
You like start like getting sick of comedy and I can't wrestle anymore.
Yeah.
Fat fuck jeans.
That's, we're making money.
Let's go.
Let's make that happen.
So like, do you look at, so when we man had his moment at mania this year, do you look
at that with pride or do you look at that with like anger of like, Hey, that should be
fucking me.
I look at that instantly at my cell phone when I slid into Sammy Zane's text and be like,
Hey man.
Hey, why don't we go for backlash?
Maybe we do some wrestling in the backlash.
I can still, I still got my, my, my tight pants.
We can go.
You can go.
I thought it would, I think I would have, to be honest, I think I would have hated it.
If I didn't like jackass and if I wasn't such a jackass fan, like that's jackass, the
jackass franchise, I'm like a fanatic about it.
It was my era, man.
That was my era.
Limp biscuit and fucking jackass.
That was me in high school.
All I cared about.
I went to college parties and then we man, that son of a bitch, all I had was kicking
myself in the head.
That's all I had.
So he did it on national television and I'm not as cool anymore because he's doing on
TV.
I had to go to college parties underage and crush cans on my head with my foot for a
dollar.
I can't do that anymore because I have a tummy now.
So it doesn't work.
Now it's like I can kick a two liter bottle because it's out farther.
I just, it was a sad day.
It was literally last week when I, when I realized I couldn't kick myself in the head
anymore.
I feel like we both need to try this on the Jericho cruise.
I think, I think we do because I was watching jackass 4.5 came out on Netflix.
So good.
And I watched it and they made the joke about we man used to kick himself in the head and
I stopped and went, wait, can I do that?
So like I set up, I'm like, all right, here, here we go.
Like I would have so many people, I should have put this on like only fans or something.
So many people would have watched it.
And then I tried doing it, couldn't, couldn't get my foot up.
And that was all that, that hurt like literally and figuratively.
I feel like with my dead feet now because my last back surgery, I could just kick the
shit out of my head and I wouldn't feel it anyways.
So I have way more of an advantage than anyone.
So I need to train to kick myself in the head.
Like that's so, so you have like a Mr. Dean's foot.
Like can you like stomp it?
I laughed about that after the surgery and that's what I kept calling it is just, yeah,
just put a fire poker through my, both my feet.
It's fine.
Like it's completely okay.
I'll be walking around the house and I laugh at this now because I can as we do in our
lives.
Sure.
I hate wearing socks in the house.
It's a horrible feeling.
It's socks in the house.
I'm very much against it.
But when I do, I'll walk around the house and like I look down and the sock is halfway
off my foot and I go, let it in.
I know that was happening.
And just, that's my life.
That's what I've come to realize.
Now, have you gotten to the point yet where you need help with the socks?
No, I'm not that husky.
Okay.
Okay.
Are you speaking from experience?
Now see, my back is good now.
I can do it, but there was a time when I could not put the socks on.
Stay right there.
I'm going to show you something.
Stay right there.
Yes.
Right back.
You're right back.
Okay.
This thing, I know what you're going to do.
This thing right here was a godsend.
What the fuck is that?
Did you think that?
No, it's like available when my dad had hip surgery, they gave him this for his socks.
It's a tube.
For those of you who are just listening, it's tube.
You wrap the sock around the tube, then you put your foot here and you hold it here, and
then you just yank it up and the socks on the foot.
I can put my socks on now.
I'm good.
I still use this thing.
I still use this thing.
It's just fun.
Very similar story, kind of ass wiping.
Ooh.
At our age and our thing is very weird.
I had to buy something because I blew my back out a few times.
I had to buy a buttwiper.
It's kind of a lifesaver for us because if you can't bend, we got this.
This is all we got to go.
Yeah.
And to get there, I mean, we need a little more, especially you can't bend forward.
You're done.
Yeah.
Have you not been introduced to the magic of the bidet?
Again, Oshkosh money, Showtime money.
You're killing me here.
Dylan.
You got a bidet?
Dylan.
You've up.
Wow.
Life changing.
Dylan.
Howard Stern talks about it.
He's got that total toilet one.
I'm a big Howard Stern guy.
No, no.
I don't have, I don't have.
Just a, you just got the clamp on bidet?
Yeah.
I just got the clamp on bidet.
Dylan.
Yeah.
Game changer.
All right.
If you can get off here, I promise you I'll put it on social media.
I am Amazonming up because I've, I've wanted to.
Yeah.
Also, I know I'm an adult and I can admit that I have a feeling when I get over served, I'm
going to be like, Hey man, how far does this thing shoot?
Like, like if you weren't sitting on it, would it go?
Like I, I'll want to test it out and be like, Hey, can I, can I like put it into a glass
and that?
Dude.
So, I did a game one time.
I did a corporate gig in China.
They flew me all the way to China to do, to do a show for this corporation.
And they put me in a hotel that had, that had a bidet and it wasn't my house.
So I, so I experimented.
That thing shot across that thing.
I thought, who need this setting?
Who need like, aren't like, are you cleaning a whale's?
Back of your mouth at the same time somehow.
Yeah.
That's like how strong it was.
I'm like, Oh, if the, if the hotel catches on fire or the hotel across the street, that
the fire is good.
But Dylan, listen, I used to say, like, splurge on, on your bed.
Make sure you have a good fucking bed.
Yeah.
Splurge, splurge on your TV.
Make sure you have a good fucking TV.
And now I'm going to add, especially for dwarves, splurge on the bidet.
It is game changer.
Okay.
You will, you will look forward to your six.
Oh man, get a bidet and a squatty potty, bro.
Do you have, I'm, I've been a squatty potty guy for a long time.
I buy them for Christmas gifts every year because people make fun of me.
And then they thank me for said squatty potty because it is a game changer.
Do you have the tall one or do you have the normal?
I've got the normal one.
See, I feel like I need to upgrade to the tall one.
You think so?
I think.
Oh yeah.
Cause that's like, cause for us, a normal squatty potty is just how everyone else gets normally.
My parents, let me tell you this.
I was at my parents house for father's day on Sunday.
This, they got a new toilet about a year ago.
I didn't know of this.
I go in the bathroom, I drop my drawers, I go on the pot and I hit and bounce off.
Yeah.
I go, that's weird.
And I mean, my legs aren't working today.
So I get on this thing.
I go, what the hell is wrong?
It's higher.
And I say, I go to my mom.
I go, you guys get a new toilet?
Well, yeah.
So you didn't think to tell me, I mean, this, she was, it's not that much.
I said, two inches is like, who feed for me?
Big.
And they go, well, we didn't think about that.
And my dad's just cackling laughing about that.
I said, I need a goddamn pole vault and a parachute when I take a shit at their house.
It's not like, it's not good.
And everyone's, my brothers go on, they go, oh, that's a nice one.
Our knees don't hurt.
My legs don't touch even more.
I have to jump off this thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then when you sit, it just cuts off the circulation.
And then you have no, you got, you got, I can't feel my legs as is, but it's even worse
now.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So no, squat, yeah, squatty potty and end of the day, you never want to leave the toilet.
You just want to stay there.
You'd be like, if I could get a TV tray and, and the TV, maybe a Nintendo switch.
Oh, that'd be the best.
Love it.
So we're talking about this and about obviously before our, our, our dream careers took off,
this, a bidet and squatty potty would never have been a thing.
Was there a time, what was the moment you talked about the China being flown over there?
What was the first moment where you go, holy shit, I'm doing it.
You know what I mean?
Like not, not the biggest chat.
It could be the biggest, like a good payday or this.
But what was the moment where it finally clicked like, oh my God, I'm doing this is really
cool.
Uh, I did.
So in Los Angeles, there was a radio show called the Kevin and being show.
Okay.
And this very popular radio show in LA and they did a comedy show every year called April
Foolishness.
Um, I got on the show through a, a number of wonderful circumstances and I, I got on the
April Foolishness show and on this lineup, I still remember it.
I have a t-shirt somewhere with the lineup.
It was Felipe as far as Ari Shafir, Bob Saggot, uh, Jay Moore, Jim Jeffries, Eddie Isard, Tim
Mention and Bill Burr.
That's awesome.
And me.
On the, on the bill.
Yeah.
You were on the bill.
Yes.
Fuck.
Yeah.
So that was a, like, first of all, just being on that show, the fuck, um, then I do my set.
It, it, it goes Felipe, uh, uh, Ari, Bob Saggot, then me.
So I go on.
I do my set.
I get a standing ovation.
Jay Moore goes on after me.
When he goes on after me, he goes, he, before he even starts to set, he goes, just so we're
clear after Brad Williams, we're all playing for seconds.
Ah, and when Jay Moore said that, I'm like, holy shit.
And then Bill Burr does his set and he comes off and I like maybe said a word to Bill before
this.
And then like, Bill Burr at, at, at, at this time is big.
Not what he is now, but he's like, he's like a God to me at that point.
And Bill Burr comes off and he sees me because I'm hanging around for the whole show and
Bill just looks at me and goes, he should have fucking headlined it.
And then finally, and that, that, that was the time where I'm like, okay, I think I got
something.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
And what year was that?
God, I'd have to look it up, but I, I've been honest.
Before your first special?
Yeah, that was before the first special.
So I want to say like 2014, 2015.
Yeah.
So yeah, like, I have to look it up.
But yeah, it was, and that's something that people should know because I started stand up
in 2004.
And so that was like, holy cow, I didn't realize that, that, how long?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was like 10 years.
Now, does that mean I was, you know, just shit that whole time or like, no, like you,
you, you work your way up, you hit certain milestones.
And people will say like, Oh, when was your big break?
And you go, it's like five breaks in a row.
And one thing, one thing leads to the next thing leads to the next thing leads to the
next thing.
So it's never just one thing.
It's, it's all the things that led to each other that, that you take advantage of.
And so that's the quote unquote big break.
And I feel like again, we, we, we realized that you and I realize that I think even more
and more as we get to know each other and as we talk, how similar the comedy and the wrestling
world are.
And just the levels of independent and starting out and training and then making it big as
people.
Yeah.
That's, that's nuts.
That's, that's incredible how, but as you said, the big break isn't the big break.
It's what leads to the biggest break.
Yeah.
Because then I, I do that show.
That's on a Saturday.
On Sunday on the Kevin and Bean show, they call me up.
They're like, Hey, you had the set of the night.
Like what that like, and they talked to me and they pretty much announced on LA radio,
like, no, Brad Williams is the shit.
Brad Williams has arrived.
And, but then it's like, so that's a break, but that it's not over after that.
You're leading to the biggest break.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't just be like, well, that's it.
I made it.
They, they said I've arrived.
So I've arrived.
I gotta follow it up.
Yeah.
How long from then, or was it, what do you feel it was that, that then the comedy specials
came to you for it?
Yeah.
It was, I think 2017 was fun size, 2000.
Your first one was 15.
Oh, you're right.
Fuck.
See, you know, you know my crew better than me.
You did see it because you took your notes.
You took your notes.
You did the research.
2015 was the first one.
2017 was that was daddy issues.
And then 2019 was Netflix, the degenerates.
So yeah, it was all sort of that just kept it led to, it led to the next thing.
And each one was bigger than the one before.
So I'll find it.
Other audience live audience and views or just what do you, what do you, what do you
get?
Yeah.
Yeah.
All.
So fun size, the first special 2015.
That was at a comedy festival in Santa Barbara.
A producer bought the theater, or rent the theater for like three days, shot like six
or seven specials in that three days and then was going to sell all of them to show time.
Not just of not just of your set.
These are different sets.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that wasn't a guarantee that that that that set was going to get on.
The theater was half full.
They had to do some like creative camera work, like move the audience towards the front,
but then also like wrestling does exactly like TV wrestling does.
Yeah.
But then on one side towards the back because that was that has the camera sees.
So that was the first one.
It got it got sold to, it got sold to show time and then played successful.
So the second one was just me rented out the Alex theater in Glendale, California, 1200
seats, sold that some bitch out.
And that was just for me, just me.
No one else was on the bill other than my opening acts.
So that was the, so that's another little thing where you go, Oh shit.
Like I walk out.
I see the gym camera.
I see it packed.
I see everything.
I'm like, Oh, that's just that's it for me.
Like that, like that's just like that.
That was a trip.
That, that was a trippy moment when you look at a dude behind the camera going, Oh, you
have a job tonight because because of me, like you need to work in somewhere else to
pop for me.
But like, like, that's at least that night he's shooting only you.
Yeah, that's a trip.
So it's all, it's all, it's all these things.
It's all the things that lead to the next thing and then taking the time to look at it and
go like, Holy fuck, that was really cool.
But then get on the horse and let's go more, let's go more.
And whether that be the next special, whether that be touring, whether that be the surf
show that I'm in or like for you, it's like, all right, the next wrestling gig.
Okay.
Now we got to do a twitch.
Now we got to do a backstage.
And age, man, the, I mean, tweets last 30 seconds, 30 second, like positive or negative.
You fuck up someone might fuck up the day after you would save your ass.
You do something really cool.
Someone's going to do something even cooler that Friday or Saturday.
Yeah.
I mean, hell you were on Dr. Carlson.
How many viewers does he get?
Like 10, 12 million.
It was like 3.5 million.
I heard that someone said, I was like, Oh, and it was fucking.
So negative against, but it was because the plant, what plant, what platform it was.
Right.
It wasn't what I said.
And no one watched what I said.
No, but then it was like, correct.
Yeah.
And that's like why I tweeted out like, Hey, it was the size of the platform, not what
the platform was in my mind.
Cause I don't get into that stuff.
You know that and like, yeah, it was literally you and I talked about it.
Fuck you and I talked about the whole situation.
But it wasn't, I just, I knew it was a big platform to get my voice out there and to
get my, and they reached out to me.
It wasn't a me.
Hey man, can I be on your show?
No.
Right.
And so now you have the opportunity to talk and tell your story to that many people.
I mean, you don't, you're not looking into all the shit.
It's like, Oh no, that's, that's, that's my chance.
That's my chance to reach the greatest number of people with the message.
And like you said, they asked you if Rachel Maddow had asked you to go on her show, okay,
you go on that show.
If the daily show asked, okay, great.
You go on that show, gone all over whatever, but they didn't ask you, but Carlson asked
you.
So I don't see anything.
You won't get flagged for me on that.
That it's one of those things where if they would have watched what I said instead of the
platform that I was on, that would have been a completely dead.
Yeah.
Because they, because they see Tucker making Tucker face, which is that I think I think
I have to shift.
Yeah.
Like, like, like, like they see Tucker making Tucker face and they're immediately triggered
and be like, that's bad.
And it's not a percent.
It's not what you were saying.
And what you were saying was great.
Thank you.
What you were saying was great.
That, that was a fun thing that week for me, Duke, like, like, I, that's another thing
there.
Again, we talk about the impact of all media wrestling is here.
Like very, I mean, it's, it's a niche at times.
That's a whole nother thing.
I got people, especially these southern shows, I got people, man, you were so good on Tucker.
It was great.
I loved what you said.
I loved that.
That other little guy, he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
It was like, okay.
Oh, all right.
But it just opens my eyes to how many people watch that more than my audience.
Like more than the audience I normally go to.
Yeah.
And you can expand.
And that, like, that was a crazy, that was a crazy week for both of us and for, for the
people who aren't quite sure what we're talking about to summarize.
That was the, uh, Dinklage on WTF week.
That's where, and we're still doing this new way.
So, I was on my soapbox for all along and it's got nowhere.
Like, I just couldn't eat the page.
I needed a toy hunt and he had, like, I found a Peter Dinklage action figure and I specifically
signed it.
Fuck Peter Dinklage.
And I thought about it, I was laughing.
And then we auctioned it off on his what not.
And it was like, the issue I have is there's no rebuttal.
Like, I don't want to argue.
But then hear what I'm saying and rebuttal it.
If you truly believe what the fuck you're saying, rebuttal it and say, hey, but it is
good.
Yeah.
And that's something to where we can say and be like, yeah, I think like it doesn't
look like the new Snow White movie we're still doing the dwarves and we're sitting here like,
well, if I had Game of Thrones money, I might sit back and say the same shit.
But that check those checks cash for those little people rolls completely okay, man.
Like, yeah, it's fine.
Like, cause, uh, I've been asked before like, oh, like, what do you think about midget wrestling?
Like the micro, uh, micro wrestling federation or whatever.
And I go, are those little people fighting?
Like, are they wrestling against their will?
No?
This is the circus anymore, man.
This isn't, we're not getting whipped and chained on box and box cars to against our
will is not we're not doing that.
This is what we want to do.
This is our dream.
And if you're going to give me no matter what the, the, the, the role is if I get to be
in a God dang Disney film.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Does that mean if I ever run into peer dink ledge that M and I can't be friends or we're
going to have no man.
Absolutely not.
I don't know.
I would love, like, I would love to chat with him about everything he's done.
Yeah.
Everything he's done because he's the midget actor.
Like he's the one.
He's the guy.
He's the guy.
You're the comedian.
I'm the fake fighter.
He's the actor.
Like that's, that's it.
That's all we got.
You're an athlete.
Like I'm trying to think of like the midget athlete.
And we matter, the guy I fought a roughing around, he's probably going to be the closest
thing.
But man, yeah.
Yeah.
There's some, some like weight lifter.
Jerry Smith.
That's what, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like it's, it's, it's sort of like we're allowed one in every industry and hopefully
that can change.
Hopefully we can get more little people.
I'm not afraid of like people like, oh, but if there's more comedians, is that competition?
It's like, no, it's more opportunity.
Nick Novicki opens up for Nate, Nate Bargazzi, great comic dwarf people, people who go follow
him.
The stuff dwarf Mamba is doing on Instagram and TikTok.
Yep.
Great.
I met two other dwarf influencers at the, at the comedy store.
I forget my names, but they came up to me and they started talking to me.
I go, oh, what do you guys do for a living?
And goes, oh, we're TikTokers.
I'm like, okay, when you say you're TikTokers, like what, what does that mean?
And they go, they know it means we quit our jobs as computer programmers to be TikTokers.
It's just like, man.
Oh, good for fucking you guys.
Yep.
If you're happy with what you're doing, who gives a shit what you're doing?
Like, great.
Yeah.
It doesn't hurt anybody else.
You're fine.
Good.
So I'm stoked for the whole kind of little person renaissance that to be fair, Dinklage
kind of got the ball roll.
He started it.
Exactly.
Good.
Like with him, we man, you, me, Mamba, all these little people on these platforms.
It's really a, it's really a great thing because it goes back to the thing I said earlier,
where now like dwarf Mamba controls the message.
You are now controlling your message.
I'm controlling the message.
Dinklage, whether I agree with it or not, he is controlling his message.
He's not doing what the producer like, he's not doing the typical dwarf Hollywood thing.
So I'm happy for the guy.
I'm happy for all, for all their successes.
Hell yeah.
Well, we're going to wrap it up because we have been talking and we don't even get to
wrestling.
So we're going to, we're going to do this again.
I'm going to take some time out of your laundry day again and we're going to talk how we then
made the connection to wrestling.
Yeah.
But two things you brought up the Eddie Murphy comedy special.
So made me think right now, because this is a lot of my viewers are the wrestling world
and obviously that kind of thing.
But our three comedy specials, old current that we need to check out right now, three
of them.
Eddie Murphy, Ross classic and by and by the way, there's so, there's so many good ones.
There's so like these are just the ones that speak to me in particular.
Like you could talk about Theresa Neil elephant in the room.
You talk about obviously Chris Rock bring the pain.
You could talk about all that stuff.
For me, for me personally, Eddie Murphy, raw Christopher Titus Norman Rockwell is bleeding.
It's his first special.
It taught me how to build tension and that and when you build tension, the release and
the laugh is so much bigger.
So that's what that special taught me.
It's fucking brilliant.
And then Daniel sloths.
Daniel sloths is a Scottish comedian.
He's on Netflix.
The specialist called jigsaw.
And it's some of the most brilliant.
I hate the fact that he's younger than me because he's so much better and so much smarter.
But and here's my warning is Daniel sloths and he brags about this.
Only watch this special if you are very secure in your relationship.
He brags about all the divorces and breakups that this special has caused.
So if you're single, great.
Watch it.
If you're in if you're in a relationship where you are at all on the fence, maybe don't watch
it.
Definitely don't watch it with your partner next to you because there because there will
be a lot of that, but it's fucking brilliant.
And so those are those are three that I that I would say check out.
Awesome.
All right, man.
Plugs wrap up plugs.
What do you got going on today?
Upcoming what you got?
Yeah, Jericho crew guys check out the Jericho cruise.
It's going to be awesome.
I didn't it's been pushed off and pushed off and pushed off.
I'm waiting for it so much, not only for this match, but just the belly flop contest.
I'm like, I literally saw your video and it made me last so hard that I was like, yeah,
I have to do this.
It's happened.
I'm going to I need to do karaoke with Marco stunned.
It's just so much fun that it's the most fun.
It's the most fun.
It's wrestling.
It's metal.
It's comedy.
It's everything I love.
It's all in one boat and it's great.
So yes, so things are going on right now.
I am at Matt Apple in Las Vegas, surface Olay at the New York, New York Hotel and Casino.
I'm performing stand up comedy there until until August.
Although I do have a contract negotiation in a few days.
So maybe not.
But and then from then on, just go to Brad Williams comedy.com.
All my tour dates are listed there.
Twitter at funny Brad Instagram at Brad Williams comic.
Follow do the things.
Obviously, if you're listening to this, you will you will you appreciate little people.
So appreciate one more add to the Mount Rushmore of Dorebs.
And while Williams, we man think, let's go.
Mamba.
Mamba, you're close.
Mamba.
He's right there.
I think he's going to like start chipping off my face and put it's going to be very close.
I love it.
Guys for real, like I we talked about the compliments earlier.
I am trying stand up things because of you legitimately because of you.
Yeah, like that's the reason I've tried the eight shows I've done is a hundred percent
because you've killed it and continue to kill it.
And that's real.
That's that's a hundred percent because it's like, man, I have fun stories to tell.
Oh, I have fun stories in WWE to tell.
Oh, it's just stuff like that where it's like because we both don't give a shit to make
fun of ourselves.
And that's truly how everyone should live.
I really believe that.
Make one of yourself because then no one else can.
No one else can.
Make the bullets out.
You use them on you M&M eight mile yourself and say everything in the rap.
Now they have nothing to hit you with.
Dude, that's awesome.
I'm really happy to hear that.
And that that means that while on the Jericho cruise, I might I might step into your world.
That means you're now stepping into mine and there might be some.
I would love it.
Hell yeah.
There might be some tag team and coming up.
Even better.
All right, man.
Well, thank you so much.
This has been awesome, like truly, truly awesome.
Thank you.
Thanks, Dylan.
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Well, that is the interview between Dylan and Brad Williams.
Again, thank you very much to Brad Williams for coming and taking time out of his busy
schedule to come and hang out with Dylan.
And real quick, because I know Dylan's got a lot to say before he wrap up.
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Now, very, very sorry to have interrupted you Dylan as you were that interview.
As we talked about before was just, it was fun to be able to sit down and man, like,
I knew over Twitter and Instagram that I liked the guy that I like.
He and I were very like instant friends, probably because we're little people.
But yo, this is the for I've never used that term so much in my life.
What's happening?
I don't like it.
I don't I got very weird out by using that term again.
No, it's just two midges.
You and someone else yucking it up.
Two friends yucking it up.
And as we say, everything is always just nothing.
What happens?
Are we going to cross over pod?
So is it two podcasts yucking it up?
It's the spinoff podcast between this and another one.
Two pods yucking it up.
Just two pods yucking it up.
Two and a half yucks.
But it just man, it was easy to talk to you legitimately just so easy to talk to you.
And then seeing them at the Jericho cruise and hanging out then you can check out that
whole video diary at youtube.com slash Dylan Postel.
Just seeing how like in heaven he was just to be able to do things in the ring.
It was fun, man.
I love that boy.
That boy is he older than he's older than me, isn't he?
Yeah.
Some of young stallions still.
I'm just young and spry these days.
Uh, yeah, he's got to be.
He's got hold on.
Hey, Siri, how old is Brad Williams?
George, Siri is useless.
I find more and more how useless.
Like why are we, why are we doing that?
Why would I ever?
How many times would you say you've used Siri?
Never.
I have it turned off on my phone.
I can't think of a use.
I did that as a comedy routine.
This is a comedic podcast.
I, I, I used to me.
But like, why would I do it?
Why would anyone use Siri?
I don't know.
It's got an application for some people and other people when it doesn't work correctly.
And just fans are frustrating.
Would you say, guys, leave a comment in the notes.
I don't, I didn't even have a hot take plan for this episode.
No.
Somehow Siri is the hot take this week.
Yes.
Cause this is what I need to know.
Leave a comment on the YouTube video.
Leave a review of your series, just a yes or no.
Yay, Siri, nay, Siri.
Would you say you actively use Siri?
Yay, Siri, nay, Siri.
Well, for the record, Brad Williams is 39.
He's almost 40.
That's not good.
Yeah.
This was your weekly, your weekly podcast dose of Ask Georgie.
Hey, so, so I'll ask a wiper or a banger or DCA question.
And it's just like me.
I ask things just to bring up conversation.
A, because I'm usually on the, on the old John, you know?
And I'm just thinking of things and I bring up conversation.
And then you know what they do now?
They go, you got Google, use it.
Oh, I'm sorry for one at conversations with my friends and them.
Like it's not, this is one of those things where I'm just, I'm just trying to have a
comment, have a talk.
And for lack of being the person that uses the term in the middle of a conversation, you're
just trying to make small talk.
That's what we do here, YouTube.com slash still in postel going past a pod at thanks
for listening once again this week.
Thanks for watching once again this week.
What's what's going past a pod at?
I might have messed that one up.
Might have.
Oh, I'm seeing the white bubble.
I'm seeing the white spots.
I stopped breathing on that one again.
Oh my God.
The side note here, Tony, when everyone, someone like in the production office would ask him
his email address, he would go Tony dot chimele at and then he would always go, you know,
that's the A with the circle around it to everyone.
And whenever we would hear him like explaining his email address, whenever you would get
to Tony dot chimele, we'd all go, don't do it.
Do not.
He knows what the God dang app is.
Well, how do I know he's not going to just put a T after?
How do I know?
Oh, man.
He was one of those I future guest on the pod, Tony, chimele, a hundred.
And it's the list and add it to the list.
He is he's top five guests on the pod.
So side note, this is why you listen to Brad Williams redo George.
I thought about changing my outlets on my own today.
Okay.
I bought USB outlets for my house.
Okay.
I thought for at least an hour yesterday, I can do this on my own.
What's my father?
Eric Postl said, Dylan, it's been a while.
Been a while since we had Eric Postl reference Dylan, you know, you try to do it yourself.
All it takes is one zap and you get hurt or you start a fire and I go, Oh, yeah, because
why don't you call Terry Binder, binder's dad who does all my stuff?
He goes and have them show you at least George.
He was here for 10 minutes and I was watching him and I looked at Terry Binder and I go,
why did I even think I could even think about doing like he was just wires and like a bunch
of the outlets had more extra wires than he needed for these.
Some of them had like not enough wires that he spliced things and dice them.
Like I don't, you know what my contribution was?
Taking the plates off the outlets.
Hey, you did something.
And his response was, thanks for stopping there.
I was very happy.
I could not do it.
I can't electricity scares me.
But then I talked to DCA and BOGGER and Matt Stein, friend of the pod.
I would say I would say Matt Stein extended employee of Postl Industries.
Uh, he, the sister location.
It's he's he were done.
He's done her.
Mifflin Scranton.
No, whatever Andy, wherever Andy was located, that's where Matt Stein is located.
Um, yeah, Matt Stein is the Postl Industries Stanford branch.
So as I was saying, like you could try doing this.
Like you could try doing things.
And then if you mess up too much, then call them.
And so that's why I thought I'm going to change my own electrical outlets.
He got zapped.
He got zapped today.
And he shook it off like it was a fly landing on him.
George, I would have cried.
I would have literally thrown the pliers across the room.
I would have, oh man, I used my scanner last week.
I texted Matt Stein.
I just used my scanner and it worked perfectly.
He goes, great job.
And I knew he was thinking secretly.
It's a scanner Dylan.
Why are you so happy?
But these are the little things that I that I go through.
Hey, you know what?
I don't know how to do a thing.
I don't like butts and play Xbox.
Celebrate every victory.
Only YOLO wants it.
I want to unpack that, but I feel like we've already gone long for this.
Control outro recording as it is.
Guys, that's another episode of going pastel.
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Brad Williams episode two is happening very, very soon in the near future.
There is a list of interviews of small talks that I am literally working on every day of
trying to figure out dates to film these and they are happening.
They are going to be happening very soon.
Dylan, this is now the point where I'm going to throw it to you.
You're going to do that wonderful, beautiful signature sign up that everyone has come to
know and love here on going pastel whenever you're ready, sir.
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