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Hello, hello, hello, is that changing anything?
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No, because now you can.
Yeah.
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We are a minute and almost two minutes in and it's been a fucking roller coaster already.
Dylan intro the goddamn show.
Guys, this is going pastel.
That's George.
I'm Dylan.
And this is going to be a fun one.
If you've clicked on this and you're a new listener, get ready for the ride.
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Guys, that's George.
I'm Dylan.
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Before we go any further, George is going to plug his socials right now.
Yeah, so there's only two socials that you need to worry about when it comes to me.
That is at going pastel pod.
That is the social account for this show.
And the other one is for the other podcast that I am on.
And then it's at Game Mark's pod.
We'll talk about that a little later.
But you know, just because I want to have two this episode, that show was hosted by myself
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Thank you very much for that.
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But like you said, Dylan, this episode is going to be a banger, a doozy.
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And there was no like, hey, we're going to start ready in three.
No, I just, he started making fun of me and you guys will see it.
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It's instant where I just go, all right, I'm hit record now.
And we're just instantly laughing.
And there's so many laughs in this episode at things that like I've never even talked
about ever and things that he hasn't even like brought up ever in any interviews.
And it's just, it's such a fun.
Just this is one of those where I'm glad George taught me and fixed my microphone settings
for the laughing because it, otherwise it would just be dead air.
And there are times in this where we're still had to fix some of the audio for that.
There's there's a certain point and I can't remember the specifics of it, but you like
your laugh is so genuine, like, like it is, it is a belly laugh is the only way that I
can describe it.
Yeah.
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Guys, you're already started.
You know, you're over here wearing your free t-shirt from the cereal company from England
from 2009 2010.
You've literally probably had it since then.
And you're coming on here and starting it on me.
Hey, you know, look, you got to swing first.
You know, you're going into a fight.
You got to come out swinging first.
I'm not going to lean in.
What's going on here?
So what are the rules of a confrontation?
And then I get, you know, the uppercut in the chin.
You know what I'm saying?
Now I'm on my heels.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm trying to, you know, defend.
So I come out swinging, you know.
Hello friend.
It's good to see you.
I literally love that we start off immediately with the barrages back and forth because that's
essentially how we've always been and I tell people all the time how our, like Hawkins,
our relationship is 90% making fun of each other and making, trying to make each other's
day more stressful, not stressful, but like you guys raised my blood pressure a lot.
And like my blood pressure is probably already high if I got it checked.
But let's you guys just, especially you because you, I think it's come out that you are like,
like a spy almost like a little spy versus spy cartoons where you get your digs.
You'll be just be tying your boots and you'll just under your breath say one where everyone
kind of looks up at each other and goes, did he just fucking say that?
That's how you got to do it.
The subtlety is the key for me.
I'm not really over the top.
It depends on what we're doing, but normally I'm not over the top.
You know what I mean?
I'm not over the top.
I'm not over the top.
Subtle day every now and then.
One might, that might hit you like five, six minutes down the line or even when you're
at home.
You're like, hey, wait a minute.
What did he say?
You know?
I've literally texted the group many times or you go like a day later going, did you
just when you think about it, you know, and we were just talking about this because my
wife and I were at the plant store and she picked the plant that had the bird poop on
it because that means good luck.
So when you're saying, oh, you know, you're dumping on me over here.
I feel like you're putting a negative tone on it, you know, but when you think about it
in actual life, if you get pooped on by a bird, that is considered to be like good luck.
So I feel like you should almost be like, I'm waiting for like the thank you to come.
I need to, I want to like jump to it, but I feel like you're being around the bush and
then we're going to talk about something else and I feel like you should be thanking me for
like the insults.
I don't even want to say insults, you know what I mean?
But for the good luck that I'm bestowing upon you when I say these things.
So you insulting and essentially bullying have made me a better person.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Sir, sir, sir, bully.
Because you have, you have famously come out that I was a bully of sorts and that is something
I feel is a complete falsity.
A complete.
You can't even say it without stuttering through.
So that's how you know that you're already lying.
You get your body is like.
It's such a deep light that in your core and your chromosomes, they're just like they
don't want to say what you're about completely untrue.
You know, I'm I'm I've exposed you to.
Okay, to let let them know who you really are.
And anybody who's hung out with you for more than five minutes usually figures that out
anyway, because they're like, Oh, look at once.
My mom.
TV man.
Wow.
Yeah.
Can I stay?
I'm sitting at people.
I remember you meeting my brothers in law and they were just like they were flat again.
We went out to dinner.
I want to say it was like South Carolina.
So I'm like, this is like a Waffle House out to dinner after the show.
And they were just like completely taken aback by your real personality based on screen
persona, you know.
So now that I take it as one of my, you know, one of my goals to let the world know who
you really are.
One of my favorite co-fisms is the fan voice.
The fan voice that you always do.
And it's never changed.
It can be you being very angry at a situation or being very happy at a situation.
The every member of your fan base or the the pro, the number to be fan base as a whole
has the same voice in your mind.
If you were a ventriloquist, it would just be one doll the whole time.
It would just be the.
You always describe that.
And that thing is you always said that they would picture me as just collecting gold coins
and clicking my heels.
And yet after five minutes, they would see it a completely different way.
They'd see the truth.
Their eyes would be opened.
If you're around kids, they grow up.
You know what I mean?
They grow up.
I'm like, oh my God, I can't believe I brought my kids around this guy.
What's he talking about?
You know, what's the subject matter that he's talking about around my kids who are not ready
to be engaging in this conversation right now?
Well, I guess they grew up.
He went into the conversation at age three and he left the conversation at age six and
a half.
So, you know, that's the reality, man.
Yes.
I will say I wrote it.
I wrote it down because I think with all of this, you are easily the person I wrote with
the most.
Oh, yeah.
And I was like, I was trying to think back because we did a whole episode of the regular
pod of just our relationship and how it all started and whatever.
And I think it was when I was like during the me and punk and Ms. and that and we were
just trying to fill the vans and we were like, oh, Kofi's got a free car.
Just same thing we did with Hawkins and Ryder.
Kofi's got a free car this week.
Yep.
Let's get a van.
Let's put seven guys.
Oh, Kofi's got a free hotel too.
Let's put them.
It was just funny because I was laughing.
I was like, we literally did that to everyone.
Oh, yeah.
That was the way.
That was the way.
And I remember just being so green and being like, oh my God.
These guys, they're wing.
Wow.
They're really welcoming me onto the roster.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
You want me to drive too?
Yeah, you get in the car.
Oh, I'll drive.
I'll drive five hours.
Yeah.
Drop some knowledge on you guys are sleeping in the car.
You know what I'm saying?
No, that's that's later.
Oh, I wrote it down.
Oh, you would be in charge of booking the cars.
I would be in charge of two things booking the hotels and sleeping.
Yeah.
And that was my job.
And I finally just stopped eating because we timed it.
I had noted to you, we timed it where it was less than 20 minutes.
If I ate, I would be passed out at night.
Yeah.
And it was on the clock.
And then I knew I could almost feel the phone after a while, your phone coming up.
And I would just, and I would, oh, I could feel it.
I just could feel it for some reason.
And then you always having to question my hotel bookings.
Yeah, bro.
I mean, number one, I have so many pictures of you sleeping.
It's like, it's bad.
Like it makes me look like the creep.
You know what I mean?
I just have pages and pages of you just like sleeping mouth wide open, drooling, whatever.
I have one where, you know, we were in the hotel room and you were sleeping and you had
the cover pulled up, like just right above your nipples and you're sleeping with your
palm on your forehead.
I did a side by side of like, it was a beautiful, I think it was like Marilyn Rowan, like some
dramatic scene.
And she was just like, you know, like hand on her forehead, like just, I took this side
by side.
So, you know, like I'm looking at these pictures.
I'm like, man, like, why am I taking pictures of this adult who's like sleeping.
He's legit tired.
You know what I mean?
Trying to rest up for a hard day's work.
I'm taking pictures, man.
Like, so I don't know.
Maybe it's me.
No, it's everyone.
It's I truly feel that I have more pictures of me and people's phones than 90% of their
children.
Oh, yeah.
And it's, but it's not like, hey, we're really proud of what Dylan's doing.
Hell no.
Hell no.
It's sleeping.
Otherwise sleepy or just outlandish.
That's what I dreamers said famously said to me, he goes, I have more pictures of you
in my phone than my daughters or my dogs.
And he goes, exactly what you said, he goes, I almost feel like a creep, but then it's just
our relationship.
And that's how we know it is.
Yeah.
Like I can't stop.
You know, like, now I'm too far in now.
Like, I can't stop.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I almost feel like, you know, we haven't hung out in a while.
So I'm like, I need some new pics.
You know what I'm saying?
I need to update the album a little bit.
Like, I'm all about.
That'll be land.
That'll be land in this new job.
You'll have to pass the torch to him.
Literally.
The along with that, we were laughing when I recorded the episode about about you is the
thermostat game with the hotel keys.
And I don't know why it started.
And that's like one of my biggest memories of the two of us traveling together is literally
just it started with the war.
I remember it started with the hotel key war where you or I were on the other side and
we just whipped it and it got out of hand so much that one of us hit the other like
in the eye and we had to go, no, we got to stop.
Like this is going to hurt each other.
Once it comes out, I'm losing your vision.
And then the funny thing is too is like having kids now and we joked about this too because
the woods also shot me in the face with a t-shirt gun filled with baby powder.
For the pump show or whatever, right?
Yeah.
But same thing here, right?
Like if I have to explain to my kids, like, hey, dad, so how did you lose your eye anyway?
I was in a hotel room and I was messing around with horrid swag with and we turned off the
lights and we started throwing the hotel keys at each other.
And now I can't see you.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, this is not a good story.
Why did you do that, dad?
So then I could never like tell him not to go out and do anything.
You lost your eye throwing the hotel card, you know, getting hit into the hotel card
and the eye with your friend.
The best is we would come out of the bathroom in the hotel room and you'd have to, if there
was like a mirror, you'd have to, you'd look in the mirror to see if you could see where
the other one was and I would go under the bed and pop out.
You would somehow hug the wall so much where we couldn't see the mirror and it was like
ninja or then we would turn the light out and really, fuck, it got me.
I was laughing about it the other day and trying to explain it to land and like, this
is what we did on a nightly basis to past time and then Kofi would get mad at me because
I turned the thermostat down so we would have a deal where you would start, we would have
like, it was like a bat or like a, we'd meet in the middle where, because I always wanted
it 68 or less and that was way too cold for you.
So you were 72 or more and it's weird that I remember like the exact that, but you would
go, nope, I'll go 75.
I go, no, I want 65 and we'd suddenly, oh landishly, we would always meet in the middle, always
and then we both call each other in the middle of the night changing it and you just finally
broke down, you're doing, I'm not gonna lie, I did change it, I couldn't handle it.
I was just, you won the bat that night, I was just too cold, I can't handle it anymore.
Well, here's, my thing is, I put mad like, because I think that the hotels think that
they're doing you a favor when you walk in the room and it's at 65 and I'm like, bro,
like I just came from outside.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I came to get out of the cold.
So why would I say it was pretty comfortable?
65 is not comfortable, you know, 65 degree weather.
Like if you, if you go outside and it's 65 degrees, you're putting on like a, you know,
a long sleeve or like something.
Come on, man.
No, you're, no.
You don't want it, you should not be sleeping and say, and you're shivering in the cold.
Like you're, you're under, what are you going to get into the blankets because it's cold.
You don't have to be cold.
You don't have to be, you're literally like in the hotel room where you have full control
of the spectrum of the temperature and the climate.
You don't have to be cold.
You're cold.
God, man, I was really freezing in there, man.
I, I think I had the covers on.
You had control of the temperature in the first place.
You didn't need the covers.
So like, come on.
But you realize it, I would bring this point up all the time.
You grew up in Boston or 65 was pretty warm.
Yeah, but take it to the, to the days before Boston.
I was born in Africa and Ghana, tropical climate.
That's where, that's where my blood, that's where my blood comes from, you know, and then
for whatever reason, my parents decided to move to the coldest part.
I say like you guys were in the tropics.
Why?
Why here?
Oh, that's a makes sense.
Like cool and everything, but the weather, man, you see the snow, we got to shovel it out.
You know, your, your back is hurting.
You know what I'm saying?
You're freezing in your car, waiting for it to warm up while you drive to work.
You don't want to touch your steering wheel because it's too cold and you're driving like
this fingertips on the steering wheel.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it's cold, you can see the breath.
You're sliding all over the place, but they didn't insult the roads.
Then you're mad because there's, the roads are closed on this.
You got to drive all the way back.
It's just not a good, like why, why are we in this temperature?
You and me.
You understand it, man.
You're the same thing, man.
Same thing, like snow everywhere.
Everyone's like cold and bundled up.
You can't see what each other like look like because you got the scarf and everything over
your face and you're covered up.
Like, what, what are we doing, man?
You have the option.
You have the option to like to move anywhere in the United States.
And you pick up.
You can go to Texas.
You can go to, you know, Arizona.
You know what I mean?
Man, Phoenix, beautiful climate.
A little dry, but better than being cold.
Better than being cold.
You know?
I just don't understand it, man.
I just don't get it.
So that is not in your future of moving back to Boston.
Never.
I'll never, I'll never live in a cold place.
As a matter of fact, so I live in, in Texas now in Austin and we moved here from California
and we're thinking about moving.
I'm like, yeah, okay, we can go to Texas.
You know, it's pretty warm and everything.
But it gets to be like sometimes like 30 degrees.
And I remember the first time like I walked out to go take the trash out and it's like
30 degrees.
I'm like, whoa, where am I?
I didn't sign up for this.
I didn't know it got cold here.
It was like the past couple of years we've had snow storms here, which is crazy.
But I feel like if there's any way to do a snowstorm, it's the way that it's done here
where it will snow and then there's like a couple inches.
The kids will go out, have snow bumps, go there snowmen, go sledding on the hills.
This is great.
Right.
And then the next day it's melted.
And then you don't have to deal with it.
You don't have to shovel it out.
You know, that's how I like.
You've lost sight of your roots.
Yeah, I just look, I love Boston to death.
You know, I love it.
I love, I love the sports teams there.
To be honest, I like the demeanors of the people.
Like the attitude, people don't like people's demeanor in their mood and everything.
They say that, oh, Boston, they call them nast holes.
I don't like that.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't like that.
People are passionate there, okay?
But I will never, I just won't go back.
I mean, the food there is great too.
Genuine Italian food.
You know, I have friends that own restaurants there.
We have great food over there.
But I just can't, I can't be in that pool, man.
I'll live in a climate where there's terrible food.
The people suck.
You know, all just, it could be the worst.
But if it's warm, then it's fine with me.
I'll make it work.
I'll make it work.
Making it work.
Just picturing you when we do the Wisconsin loop of you yelling at me.
How do you do this?
You do this.
You live in this.
Still, again, what you said of you can move anywhere and you choose to stay here.
Always rings out whenever we have the winters here because it's brutal and just hearing your
voice.
And then you guys, and you don't, you don't like the winners.
I'm never going to.
I can't wait to be snowed in.
Oh, this is going to be great.
This is going to be awesome.
I can't wait to drive to all this stuff.
Like nobody likes it.
So then why are you there?
Why are you there?
I mean, you just in your mind, in your, in your mind with this, all of these northern
states would be pretty much unpopulated.
Yeah, you're not supposed to.
I mean, come on, man.
Why go maybe on like a little vacation, right?
Go on a little vacation.
Oh, kids, you want to go see snow?
It's like my wife's family's from upstate New York.
We go there for Christmas.
It's great.
The kids get their snow.
Awesome.
Hey, white Christmas.
Wow, this is awesome.
And then we go back to our warmth.
That's what people should be doing.
Like why would you reside?
Why would you choose to reside there?
Especially through the winter.
Do like a like a time share, you know, six, like, like the birds, nature, nature.
If you, if you have, cause this is perfect because birds, they have the ability.
They have wings.
So what do they do?
They get the hell out of the cold in the winter.
I hate your metaphors.
I hate your metaphors.
Come on, man.
Am I wrong?
So you come up with one of the.
If I'm a bear, if I'm a bear, okay, I can't really fly all the way down to the warmth
and then go all the way back.
It's a long walk for a bear, you know, short legs.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it's hard.
It's a hard, it's a hard commute, you know, a squirrel.
That's a hard commute.
So they go and they hibernate.
They, they go into the cave and they just like, you know, hide more, not until like the winter
is done.
You understand that?
But a bird says, I have the ability to get the hell out of this cold when it gets cold.
And that's what I'm going to do.
They get all their friends.
They say, Hey, it's time.
It's time.
We're going down south.
We're going to the warm.
And that's what they do, you know, and then when it, you know, when it gets to be a little
bit more tolerable up north, they go back.
That's what we should be doing, man.
Nature, bro.
All the nature.
All of your, whenever you go on a rant, it's always spoken in like a metaphorical way.
And it, it, it never ceases to drive me nuts because it's always you teaching a lesson that
really isn't a lesson anyone, like anyone's come up with.
But you just come up with it on the spot and you keep rolling with it to come off like
this super intelligent, just, just metaphorical human and it irritates the heck out of me.
Hey, look, man, see this is not, not you're being hard headed.
See the, I have to go on and on because I have to like paint the scene and paint the
picture so that you understand more and more like, Oh my God, like the more he starts the
more he, the more he goes on, the more sense this makes.
And you start to question like, why am I, why am I in this situation?
But then when you come out of, out of it with this attitude, I really hate that you're doing
this.
And I, what are you talking about?
What you, you hate being enlightened?
People go to school to, to get an education.
People go to college to, to learn.
They, they get an education.
So would you be mad at the professors for teaching you and giving you said information
and making you smarter, making you a better human being and you're mad at the professors,
you're mad at the teachers.
That's being hard headed, bro.
That's hard headed.
That's hard headiness.
You got to make a change, man.
Kofi, I have one question for you.
It might be a bit off topic.
I need to change the subject here.
Cause I'm not going to get angry on this episode.
I'm not going to, the one question I have for you every day, I have the same question
for probably 10, 15 years now.
I don't know.
Where's the pogo stick?
When is the pogo stick coming out?
I have asked you since, I want to say 2010, all I wanted was a pogo stick.
Every January you do something astonishing and, it sounds like for one reason or another.
I mean, but go ahead.
And all I've asked you, I woke up out of a real deep sleep one morning going into a
royal rumble knowing you have to steal the show like usual and I woke up out of a deep
sleep that morning or in the car possibly and I go pogo stick.
Just get a pogo stick and you looked at me with the most questionable look you've ever
looked at me with up until that point of how could you come up with that?
And then you did it with a chair and you go, this is completely different.
This is different than a pogo stick Dylan.
But every year now I proceed to text you, the week before the rumble is the pogo stick
happening and you give me the same answer, no.
Just a very pretty much a simple no, not this year.
Well, here's the thing man is.
I had roller blades.
Roller blades was a really good idea of mine, but I thought still to this day would make
complete sense.
I mean, it's still possible technically.
I mean, I don't know that that's very impressive or any part wants to see that or if anybody
even like uses roller blades anymore.
I haven't seen a roller blade and I don't know.
But you know, we'll put that one in the bag.
It's in there.
But yeah, man, I tell people all the time, man, like I like, I really cherish it.
I'm embarrassed having you as like the person to like legit like bounce ideas off of before
rumble because it got to a point.
I always got to give John Morrison credit because he did the, you know, getting knocked
to the the the the apron and Spider Manning and parkouring his way back to the to the ring
during a rumble.
And then the next year when he wasn't there, I was like, Oh, I guess I'll just I'll just
start doing this.
I'll still.
So that's where it started.
In your mind, it needed to have someone needed to do it almost like the Bushwacker Santino
spot.
Someone needed to do that crazy moment.
Well, it wasn't even like someone needed to do it.
It was more like, Hey, this is a match where we have 30 people and they're in the ring
at the same time.
Well, I'm not winning.
How can I stand out?
How can I make you talk about me?
Well, I'm not going to be like winning Matt.
So, um, yeah, I think the first year it was a was that the handstand.
If I'm not mistaken, which me and Miss did.
Um, and remember the in rehearsals, you've got one of the times you just like stood in
place and you go, Oh, no, I don't know if this is going to work.
No, go ahead.
And then he like the one of the other times he pushed you too hard.
Yeah.
And and you were like, I don't know.
I don't know.
It's got to be perfect.
But it always came out perfect.
Yeah.
It's it's really weird, man, because so many things have to go right.
And I give a lot of credit to the people who I'm involved with, like doing those, uh, those
spots, you know, but, um, yeah, when, when, uh, so most people when they walk on their
hands actually, uh, what's the, oh, soul, soul Ruka on an NXT is probably one of the most
impressive athletes that I've seen in real life.
Like, you know, um, you know, Katana, she goes by now.
Also like the way that they're able to, to like move around, like actual gymnasts and,
and like walk around on their hands as if it were their feet, you see them walking and
they walk with their like, like their backs moving forward.
So I was trying to do that.
And I couldn't do it.
And I kept like walking the other way.
So I'm like, you know what?
Let me just do that intentionally.
So when you go back and you watch it and miss throws my feet up, I'm like walking the wrong
way with my handstand.
And then I just land on the, on the stairs right there.
So, um, yeah, I, this became a just, um, you know, a scenario where you have an opportunity
to stand out.
And it's so hard to do like with each passing year, each passing episode of rough, all these,
you know, everybody, everybody's trying to do the same thing and trying to stand out.
And I just saw the rumble as an opportunity to do that.
So the next year after that, I forget what it was, but people were asking like, Hey, you're
going to do something again.
I'm like, Oh, I don't know.
And then, you know, room with you and talking about it, um, we ended up doing another one
in the year after that same thing.
Like, okay, what are you going to do this year?
I'm like, Oh, no, this is like, I, I, I have to do this now.
This is like my, like, it's cool, you know, um, but yeah, it was, um, I really did value
like that, that skull session and brainstorm session that we would always have.
And it would always like start with you kind of ridicule.
Oh, what are you going to do now?
Who are you?
You know, so when you were like, Oh, what are you going to do?
What are you going to do this year?
A pogo sticker.
And you're like laughing.
Just like, man, actually, that might be a good idea.
I remember like looking over at the, at the chair in the room, he's being like, Hey, this
might work.
So that I get in there.
I remember.
Yes.
We're in the hotel room and I get on the chair and I just start bouncing on the chair and
it wasn't locked.
So I kept like falling forward.
I'm like, Oh, wait a minute here.
So then I locked the chair, like fall forward and start hopping in the room.
And I remember like laughing maniacally at you and like, ah, like, Oh, screw you, man.
Yeah.
Thanks for the idea.
You thought you were messing with me, but you actually gave me an idea.
So, you know, like I said, man, I just really did value like all the times that we would
just like think about cool things to do.
Um, yeah, it was almost like just like kind of like clockwork.
And so now like the past couple of years when I haven't been able to achieve the spot, I
blame you thinking about it now, because I haven't had the chance to, you know, you,
you should book yourself to the rumble.
I wouldn't book you a ticket.
I don't, you know, I'm just saying you should book yourself a ticket to the rumble and then
we can room together.
You probably should pay for the room too.
And then we can have the skull session and think about different unique ways to do rumble
spots.
And then they wouldn't get messed up because I thought you said, I thought you said, uh,
Hey, I think it's time.
I think, I think, I think maybe next year I just get thrown out.
Like, I would always say that.
I would always say that.
The first, the first time when it happened and I did that springboard and, uh, I think
that year I actually ended up being like in the, in the rumble for the least amount of
time.
I think it looks like 15 seconds or something like.
So I go to springboard and, and, and Kevin pushes me and I jump and I see myself going.
I'm like, Oh, okay.
I'm like, Oh, I'm going to make it.
Like, Oh, I'm not going to make it.
I'm going to work.
So then I was like, I grabbed onto it, but the momentum, like my feet, obviously they,
they hit the ground and they came down like so hard.
I think I broke my toe.
I think I, uh, like did something to my ribs.
Um, you hit the barricade on your ribs so hard, even land.
I was watching when the landing was, Oh, well, that's not a good one.
It was not good.
It's not the kind of thing that you can like walk through and practice.
So like I kind of like half did it or whatever throughout the day, but, um, I'm like, Oh,
you know, when, when showtime comes, I should be okay.
Cause I was getting there, uh, or getting, getting close, getting as close as I felt,
felt like I needed to.
And then thought that the, the, the, uh, the adrenaline from the crowd would give me a
little bit more momentum.
But going through it full bore, what I would do now is jump out instead of up.
You know what I'm saying?
So I jumped kind of like, Oh, and then came down super hard.
But if I would have jumped out, I would have been able to get there easily.
So, um, you know, I, who knew though, you know, hindsight, 2020.
And of course when my foot at the ground, I was like, Oh, did anybody see that?
And like looking at the replay, it was like so incredibly obvious.
And I remember it was a Rod Zappata, Rod Zilla.
He's like, yeah, your, your, your feet hit your feet.
And I said that for a second.
I'm like, Oh, that's so bad.
But, uh, you sure about that?
So hard.
My toe was like, my toe still messed up.
It told so much.
So I'm like, all right.
Well, is this a dream?
Cause people have been talking about this for a legit a decade.
And I'm like, Oh, let me try to wake up.
No, this is not a dream.
Let me just go ahead and take my ass to the back.
Like I said, you know, walk through, you know, and, and that was it.
So, you know, uh, it is, it is what it is.
And, and then last year, this, this past year, um, I was like, you know what?
Let's make this easy money that this is, this should be simple.
You know what I mean?
I jumped to a chair.
This is going to be easy, you know, especially after the year before, you know, we got to
just get, get back on the board and, and sure enough, like when I got knocked off, I
came off so hard that when I turned around, I didn't have time to adjust.
So I'm like, Oh, let me try to like adjust in the air.
So ironically, if I would have jumped up like I jumped the first year, I might have had
a chance to like adjust in the air, but this time I jumped out and had no time.
So then I was like, Oh, and then like hit my head on the, uh, on the table and everything.
Like, just get me out of here, man.
Get me the hell out of here, man.
That's the, it's over.
It's done.
I don't know.
That's the after the after text of, I think, I think it's done.
I think I'm done with this.
Yeah.
I think it might be.
So that that's the thing is too is like, man, like I've done that.
I've been in that position for so long that I try to think about things to do.
And it's almost like they're like, like reiterations of the older ones or like trying to one up
the older ones.
And then I'm thinking like, man, well, like risk reward, like, is this worth it to like,
to, to, to try it and not do it?
Or maybe that's the deal.
Maybe that's what I do now is like try it and then fail at it for the next 12 years,
you know, and then have like a 50-
You do the hair stand and you just back up on the ground.
I'm sorry guys.
I didn't do it.
I don't know.
So I don't know, man.
I'm, I'm on the fence about, uh, like where it's going to go, but there's part of me too
that wants to be like, Oh, no, F you, man.
Like I'm going to do it.
I'm going to, I'm just going to do it just to show, you know, so I know it's going to
be that every year.
It's going to be that mentality every year.
I can't go out of failure.
I can't do that.
Nope.
Nope.
I can't go out like that.
Can't go out like that.
That can't be the last one.
But I'm not.
It is what it is.
We'll see what happens.
And speaking of that kind of moment of a, of a let down and almost something almost going
bad.
One of the moments, you know, that you and I have shared in the ring at WrestleMania,
uh, a famous WrestleMania, WrestleMania 20 29.
I get to be the team mascot for team Teddy.
You're on the team, our truth, our friend, Zach Ryder and a few others are all on the
team.
It's going to be my big WrestleMania moment.
I'm going to do a huge dive to the outside.
We planned it out where truth and coffee are going to help me to the top rope and it
balanced me so I can stand on the top rope and take in all the adulation and then jump
into the air with the athletic prowess that I have.
And it didn't go that well.
Truth was there for me.
Oddly on camera, you can hear a younger at the time, Hornswoggle going hand, hand, hand.
And then as I'm in the air, you see you reach up and like, Oh yeah.
Just to prove, just to prove afterwards that you tried to help me because you were supposed
to hold my hand on the top rope with truth.
And it's just truth on my left and me going hand, hand, coffee, hand.
Okay, screw it and just jumping.
And afterwards me coming up to you going, where were you?
Yeah, I thought about it afterwards.
Totally.
Like you probably said at least at least like six or seven times throughout the day.
Hey, make sure that your hand is up there.
Okay, I'm going to need your hand for some support to the point where I was like, yeah,
I'm going to beat like I'm getting mad and frustrated that you're telling me so many
times I'm like, bro, I'm like, I sound like you have a huge WrestleMania match.
Like, you know, but we got to be there for each other and I'm usually there for everybody.
I'm like, God, I'm just putting my hand up.
Do why you like so you don't have enough faith in me as a performer as a as a as a co-worker.
As a friend there for you.
Of course I'm going to be there.
Of course I'm going to be there, man.
I'm going to be there for you when you need me and I wasn't and you know, I'm sorry, bro.
You know, I it's like I'm hoping watch Kirby enthusiasm, but there's a scene for an episode
where Larry David gets in the elevator and like when you see somebody coming, but you
don't want them to actually get into the elevator.
So you reach like you're trying to like stop the door, but you're not really reaching the
stop the door to hold it open.
So you just get the.
You T rex you T rex armed as I was in the air you went.
It wasn't intentional.
I was just caught up in the moment, man.
I was so happy to see you up there.
I'm happy to bring me home.
Getting your shot and I just got caught up in all the emotion, you know, like I'm like
a fan watching it again just wow, I got the best in the.
Just I want to go from the inside of the ring to the outside man.
Oh my God, I'm supposed to be here as a co-worker.
I'm just glad that it's audibly on camera me yelling at you and disappointed at you.
I would have denied it.
I was there.
What do you mean?
I was there, you know, but not like you're legit.
What?
Oh my.
You want my hand for some support?
Get you on the next one, bro.
I'm sorry.
Supporting is supporting is something that you've done for me quite a bit.
And it's something that you say you've supported me on to this day and I really don't believe
it.
A certain character that never was in my career that you fully support still to this day.
And I argue about to this day.
What do you know about Big Nick from Jersey, Kofi?
I know about Big Nick from Jersey.
I know that I'm one of the few people on this earth that saw something that saw something
that could have been the biggest thing, not in just wrestling, but it's helping me.
You know how people go into the Hall of Fame twice, right?
So Michael, Michael, he goes in with DX, you know the same thing, Triple H goes in individually,
goes in with DX.
You know what I'm saying?
You could have gone in the Hall of Fame, not only is Hornswoggle, which you will do.
You could have gone in his Big Nick from Jersey.
You guys all remember it's GM.
This is gonna make this is gonna make me furious.
I'm just, look man, it makes me, it actually kind of saddens me.
I just, I wanted it for you, for you, you know, and you were supposed to be the big reveal
for the special GM, the Mr. Regent.
An out of Miss General Madre, yes, yeah?
And you were Big Nick from Jersey.
Yeah, you stupid parents thought that I was braiding around like a, like a leprechaun.
You're stupid parents and you're stupid kids.
My real name is Big Nick.
I live in a luxury apartment in Jersey and now I'm swimming in the dump.
You could have had some kind of a boom.
It's been heartbroken and angry, oh my God, Hornswoggle who lives under the ring with
this, on this pot of gold who paints a picture on the wall and runs through it and Carlito
can't run through it.
He runs into the wall.
Wow.
My time and my emotions into was actually a jerk.
He has a luxury apartment in Jersey because he, you bought all my munch.
Oh my God, I thought you were going to go faster.
I'm taking your money and I'm cashing out.
Swimming in the dump.
The backstroke.
You could have had something special, man.
You could have had a new, an action figure.
I'll tell you what, man, if you had embraced the Big Nick role, you would still be the
general manager today.
So you're saying I didn't embrace it?
You didn't embrace it at all.
You went out there and the rehearsals and you had the paper in your neck.
So I wish I had some paper here.
I really imitate this but you're rustling the paper and you're reading it and it's,
well, I'm a new general manager.
I'm Big Nick from Jersey and I tricked all you guys and you believed me and now I'm here
I'm swimming in the doe and...
What were you doing?
I'm sitting in the crowd, me and TJ and we're just like, this guy, he doesn't, number one,
he might be a leprechaun but he don't like money.
You know what I'm saying?
He might look.
But he certainly doesn't like money in real life.
This guy doesn't want to be in the hall of fame.
He doesn't want a one-way ticket to the Hall of Fame to be forever immortalized in the
annals of history and in the WWE.
Well, what is he doing out there?
Why is he not embracing this?
If me, Woods and E, would have gone out there and half-assed these positivity preaching preachers,
you think we'd be where we are right now?
Huh?
You think we'd be, what, number one, t-shirts selling, booty-o cereal, wielding unicorn
horn wearing pancakes, slangin' guys that we are?
You think we'd be that?
If we didn't embrace the role, swag'll?
No.
If we went out there in quarter-assed, I couldn't even give you a half-assed.
You wouldn't even, you didn't even half-assed if you're quarter-assed it.
We went out there in your quarter-assed it, you know?
And now, you know?
Come on, man, you could have been the boss.
Look at Roman Reigns, think Roman Reigns' bloodline vibe.
No.
You big-nicked from Jersey, from Jersey.
You the Assemble to crew?
A whole squad?
Come on, man.
You booed.
You and TJ booed in the crowd because they cut the mic because it was so bad.
That's something I specifically remember, is they cut the mic for rehearsal because it
was going so poorly, and you guys loudly booing.
Yeah.
Let them finish, you know?
Let them finish, you know?
Let them finish the rehearsal because you might, maybe, like, in my heart of parts, I think
that maybe you would have, like, embraced the role and then you would have gotten into
it, you know what I'm saying?
Like, okay, this is a big name, because we were out there to support you, you know what
I'm saying?
No, no, no, no, no.
I know what you're saying, give you a round of applause and cheer you on and pump you up.
And before we could even do that, you know, you're-
Kofi, at that point, I've never seen you watch a rehearsal in my life until that point.
That's false.
I watched several-
Early in my career, I watched several rehearsals.
And I was trying to re-spark that-
Oh, that's why!
That's why!
That's why.
You know what?
Let me get out there and watch these rehearsals one time for Swag.
Let me be there for my friend and support them.
But I'm telling you, man, you can- Oh my God, think of all the merchandise, dude.
You have like the big sunglasses on, you're rich, you know?
Maybe you have like a cigar or something like that, you know?
And you just- Come on, man.
Big Nick from Jay-Z.
Just- Oh, what was the movie?
Oh!
Oh, I'm not gonna be able to think.
There's a character-
This is really dumb.
I'm gonna say there's a character in a movie that reminds me of Big Nick and it says no,
it's gonna be-
They kept telling me going into it.
Yeah, we're thinking like the baby from Roger Rabbit and I was like, okay, oh, I got this.
And I did- I did not have it.
You didn't have it.
You didn't have it.
You didn't have it.
You didn't have it.
You didn't have it.
I- I-
It was.
That could have been a huge moment for me.
Would have- It would have been.
It would have been.
It would have been.
Now we need to talk about probably the biggest moment in your career.
I am very very happy for you about you deserved for so very long reindeer coffee
I
Cuz I wasn't gonna emotionally invest in this and this you know this giving a flower like okay
Let's see. Let's see. This is going. I know he's gonna come with the backhanded something and I
Probably my most proud I've ever been of you. Hey reindeer. I love the reindeer angle. I loved it and
Inspiration from TJ actually
Then we need to talk about reindeer TJ
Talk about reindeer kofu without talking about oh
My god what it wasn't amazing. I think it was tribute to the troops. Yeah, Mick
Santa Claus yep, and he had a bunch of
Victory I'm glad that we're both picturing TJ's face during this especially during the rehearsal for that
Because it's one of my like favorite moments that I've had with him that I've shared with him and he looks over at me
so
Tyson kid to me the smoothest most technical wrestler like just sound
Incredibly talented one of the most talented people that I've ever been in the ring with the things that he's able to do in the ring
like the transitions from one move to another and their moves you haven't seen before
unmatched
And to see him in this reindeer role this comedic role was like oh my god
Like if there's anybody who shouldn't be in this role right now
It's TJ and there he is, you know
Jack to the gills, you know wearing a reindeer hat and like a Rudolph red nose, but he looks over at me
And he says this is my dream
Oh my god, it was it was just amazing man, but again, you know to the like
You have to be able to embrace like what's what's getting into you
So this is what TJ did with the reindeer is what you should have done with
Just saying I'm just saying you know even though TJ should not have been in that reindeer role pushing a sleigh of all things
Because he was a lot better than that. He still embraced it. He got out there
He pushed Santa out there for the damn kids, you know
And and if you would have done the same thing with big Nick
We would have had a different story
But you know me nonetheless when I put the reindeer hat on it was I forget who else wrestling
But I think either they had it on and then I took it off from I said give it to me
And I put the reindeer hat on put their nose on and then did like a big crossbody off the top
Everybody feels good. Everyone goes home happy, you know that there's there's moments in your career
That you look back on and they're just they're just fun because at the end of the day. It's like hey
Like I worked at Staples in the corporate headquarters
Over on root 9 in Boston and I was in a cubicle for like nine hours a day a boring job
You know, I didn't it was I wasn't passionate about it at all
So the best day at Staples or sorry the worst day at WWE
Better than the best day at Staples, you know what I'm saying so
I mean you think about like hey
When when do you get paid to dress up?
You know as a as a reindeer or you know a gingerbread man, which I've done that to
Hello, but twerk hello, but twerk gingerbread man twerk gift out there for those of you who want to go out there and search that
you know, but
We have a lot of fun in this in this industry and sometimes that fun involves doing ridiculous things like putting on
holiday themed
Suits and things of that nature
The other one of the last things that came to mind
real quick was
Your you're very much involved with up up down down as everyone knows and
The video game on the road play you're playing on the road came
with PSPs you and I were riding together and
playing the hell of PSPs and Madden and a certain reality star turned wrestler our friend Mike our
friend Mike who
We would often we have to just say hey miss just just just be Mike just amen
We don't we don't like we don't like Miz outside of that just be Mike
So he on the road to join us because he had to prove to us he was better us than us at something
He bought a PSP and Madden and then I talked about this previously
Do you remember the time when our friend the Miz was trying to learn how to play the guitar?
To easily said
We try to embrace different different skills, you know, we have a lot of time
So you want to spend that time doing something that's different Miz chose to learn how to play guitar?
He took lessons from I believe the woman was called the shredmaster
In California and she was teaching and then he created his own tablet sure which he was
You know excited about I don't know what that means but he was excited about it and we would support him
But he had a travel guitar I have I literally am gonna post the picture of the guitar in this
The guitar looked so stupid like can we be on like it looked like a broken guitar like a
It was very odd and yeah, I
Almost felt like it wouldn't translate to playing actual guitar
It's all like playing like playing guitar hero, right? It was smaller than a banjo like it was it was a banjo is longer than this thing
It was very odd. He was tiny. Yes
And then look tiny like in his hands too, but he was out there. He was strong in it, bro
He was strong in it, you know and yeah
You put so many hours in and then he'd be happy to like show everybody like what he'd learned
Told him he said you know he played it misplayed
And then Swago says oh man, wow you've been practicing really hard
You've really gotten better and missed like you know starts the blush look was like yeah
Well, I've really been in it so I'll cut some off he says if by better and you make worse
Y'all just dropped
Because hours of hard work, you know and practice that he had put in he thought he was finally getting some recognition and some shine
You know some kudos and compliments and you just broke him down man. You just you broke his heart
Yeah, you're getting better at that man. Yeah, if I better you mean worse
Maybe the bullying thing is correct after all you know, but I remember during that
He wanted to play Madden with us and he sucked. He just wasn't good
And so we would just say all right. No, Kofi and I are gonna play because there's actual competition here
I'll bet you anything. I'll bet you a hundred bucks. I'll bet you this I'll bet and
He you were like I think he said I'll bet you the guitar
Or like he wanted to put the guitar on the line or something and you said no, I'm gonna sign the guitar
Right, so he yeah, he was gonna sign so the bet was
Or what was he gonna sign my PSP? That's what it was though
He's like if I beat you I could sign your PSP, but if you beat me you signed my guitar
I said bro like I didn't want I didn't even want to play him
Because I knew that it was gonna be a slaughter. I knew it like it
I was decent at Madden back in the day, you know, but I knew that I could beat him
You know what I'm saying like I yeah, he just had to not be experienced
You know to say he was a young booty. He just got in the game, you know, but when he put that online
I was like, oh man
Yeah, we're gonna do this and then we're gonna take a picture and then it's gonna last forever
So of course we had the game. I proceeded to beat the crap out of him
And it wasn't even close it wasn't even close and there's a great picture of us
Engaging in the ceremony in the back of a van
I'm a mini band and I signed his guitar
It's great and there's a picture of him with this big booboo face on and me just cheesing and
Like we said it would we never saw the guitar again
Yeah, never saw that was literally it. I thought about it the other day. I was like we never saw the guitar again after that week
That guitar went away. I don't know if he stopped playing guitar or if he just stopped bringing down the road
But he we never saw it again
No, we didn't that that was the nail in the coffin and I you know what I don't he might never play guitar again
I still this day haven't seen him play guitar
There's a couple guys who like bring actual guitars on the road woods brings an actual base on the road to play like mission
It done, you know
If you ask him if you ask him he can play though
Yeah, if you ask him he could play and then if you give him or go ahead play
He'll blame it on it's not his guitar that he learned
That's exactly what he'll do
Uh, I want to talk about something that you're involved in outside of WWE
This uh, this this really awesome thing click
This really awesome. Uh, go fund me. You're part of let's let's let's talk about it. Yeah, man
It's the click for quality education foundation. My mom and I have started a program to build computer labs and
libraries for kids and Ghana
so um
Yeah, it's it's going really well. We have a go fund me
Um, um, go fund me slash click fqe, I believe
Uh, if not, it's on my social media page. You can click and donate and everything but we've actually
Um
So so the gear from uh the rumble I actually put up for auction
And had the proceeds go towards click. So we made like I want to say like four or five grand on on
And the um and the gear
Uh, and we sent those out and um, yeah
So we're looking to launch in september and um, we're like a couple thousand short of being able to have like enough to get
We're trying to get like 50 computers, you know
Um, so we're on the we're on the verge of doing that and uh, it's just really exciting because
You know like a lot of people
I think we all kind of take for granted all the technology that we have prevalent right like you talk about like oh
I want to look up some information and you whip out your phone and you start typing it in and you think about the fact that you
Are in a unique opportunity you have a unique opportunity of um, hey bud. So how you doing? Good. Good. You have a unique opportunity to
You know, oh my god
He's a real adult
10 you just turned 10 a couple days ago actually, which is wild
But yeah, so yeah, man click for quality education. You know, I feel like we got the responsibility
To do positive things with our celebrity and and status and everything and we're just trying to give kids and Ghana
and like a just an equal opportunity to
Learn about like technology and we're just talking basics man like home road being able to type being able to use a mouse and all that and
Um, it's going very well and we uh, yeah, we should be launching pretty soon. So
It's uh, it's been a cool thing to be a part of to be able to do something special for kids who definitely deserve it
Awesome. That's uh go fund me
Dot com slash click fqe
Check it out. It's uh for an awesome awesome cause my friend
Thank you. I uh, I I texted you a couple weeks ago. I'm so glad that we were able to do this
and and sit down
uh, and and just talk about
The the yuck yucking that we've done in the past and the t he and um, I I really appreciate it
A day one ish friend for sure and a very very good friend
Um, you wrote the forward one of the forwards to my book
Which literally compared to our good friend brian
Yours was a complete roast of me brian took it all seriously and all heart felt
And then yours was a complete roast of me
And it it brian goes after the best part is brian goes after he goes
I read cofies in it
I didn't know it was supposed to be that way
That's good. We had the contrast though. So like you told us too when you asked us to do it
You're like hey, I'm not gonna read it. I don't want to sit on the book and I said, okay
Here we go, you know the whole you know, it's uh, the the book was wide open in terms of what I wanted to say out there and
Kind of like express the nature of our friendship and relationship here just like people have heard on the podcast
Uh, you know, I don't even think we had like an introduction or anything like that
We just assumed that everybody like knew who I was, you know, we just got ready
You know, we got went to what was important, but um, it's something that I value a lot man
And uh just being able to uh kind of pick up where we left off, right?
Like no matter how much time goes by that we speak or like don't text or whatever
It's like riding a bike man and um, I'm just appreciative of having you as a friend as a brother man and um, you know, it's uh, it's
Here we are man. Here we are with grown-ass children
With grown-ass children
Land and man. I saw that frog splash he had done
like he he's he's like
Way better than I'll ever be
He's already way better than I'll ever be like
as
In the ring and outside. I'll just be out. He is he's just incredible
He's uh and and to see like I talked about Kai and him like
When they were younger, just best friends without ever meeting like
Baby land would just be boys baby Kai
Where's baby Kai?
And just I want to talk to baby Kai today because Kai was so young
And I just said you guys have never met ever in your lives and it was it's it's a cool cool thing
Really?
It's awesome. Well, thank you. Thank you very very much
Thank you. Thank you. It's been a pleasure been a joy and um, yeah
It's been a good roast session. I feel that's all it is
Now I feel warm now I feel warm and heated up that to be a roasted for this past hour
I can go out and go about my business, you know
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All right
Just as i'm finishing listening to the kofi interview
Hello
I
We're recording the podcast
Oh, it's kind of
Um
My very famous ethan page toy on I hate I
Know
Does he know that we're recording right now? He had no idea that we're recording
This is he had no idea. We were recording George. This is the
How does he know?
I always make the appearance in the podcast
I think but how do you know like that? He does one thing if you're home. No idea George. It's sunday night
I haven't heard from him for hours
Please
Ears were ringing he's like yeah, they need me. Okay. Well the couch chicken nugget signal when I
Yeah, I think they need me. I think that's guy. Well, can I call you after I've done recording my son?
Me can I guess you?
And you know we're just doing an outro literally we're doing an outro for the kofi interview
That's all we're doing. I'm calling you after I love you. I love you. Bye
Guys, uh, that was land and pastel. Make sure to go check him out in all of the ethan page vlog toy on videos
As soon as I saw his name pop up I go. Oh no
Guys
He is
He's on cloud nine between the wrestling con video diary on uh my youtube page
And brian meyers is
Dead diary and then ethan pages now toy hunt with him
He's on cloud nine and it's it's guys. It's going to his head
We don't need a 13 year old with an ego problem. We don't need that
Would you say uh after he did the frog splash? You said that he's uh officially cooler than you
Oh, he's a hundred percent. I'm fully like i'm starting to believe and realize
I am going to be riding his coattails in
Less than 10 years
Fully riding his coattails in less than 10 years. I feel like uh
One of these ep or like maybe a bonus patreon episode if one whenever we get that going
We uh, we I need a good uh good land inventing episode
A real good
All heartfelt swagel as we can call it. Oh, there's something there there's something there guys
How about that coffee here?
This again if you're new to this podcast and to this this uh
YouTube channel and series this is what it is. It is never
It is never on the rails
Ever go back. I was in the heart loads and you will realize how off the rails
This show is but it's it's fun. Um
That coffe interview, I cannot thank him enough. I cannot thank wwe enough for letting him do it
literally no questions asked
uh
N- like no one listening on the other end media wise and pr wise
We got to the end of it and coffe he goes man
Thank god you cut it because we would have been talking for another two hours
Which means we just thought apart too who knows if we do apart too, but uh just fun
and I I really hope it was as
Enjoyable to listen to and to watch as we had fun
Yucking it up as we say
Um, it's uh, it was a really fun one for me
It's it's a very weird feel it like I
I've told you I'm behind the scenes how weird it can be for me to do interviews like this
because they are my friends and because
It's just it's just it feels forced and you have you literally tell me every time. It's not coming off that way
It's fine. Yeah, but it just
I look at my phone during the interviews as you can see and there hopefully not
But probably and I go through like a list because I write list
I mean I make I do notes and I never thought I would be doing notes for an interview for podcasting
but man, I I don't ever want to go in and have like 15 minutes of stuff and then
Cut it. I all but then also it's like I want notes that are going to pop me and make myself laugh
That's not the typical who train do what did you do to get in that?
That we all get asked every interview we do
Um, that's the things that I think that set your conversations apart when you have these histories that you're asking questions that are like
The deep cuts in the sense of like hey, let's talk about the story that you know
Like maybe five people know about but you're gonna you're gonna start telling the story
And we're both gonna be hilariously laughing within the first 30 seconds of it. I am so happy
that the reindeer
uh
question
Got such a reaction out of him because I gassing him up
He thought I was gonna go for that Wrestlemania moment and then I just flipped it and all man
It his reaction made the thing even better and it was just man
It was fun. We got the big Nick impression and oh guys
Thank you. Thank you for uh for coming along for this ride again. If you are a first time
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Checker outer. Thank you. It's uh
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I once again the youtube free free video versions and I and I don't think that even when the time comes that we start
The patreon
That that's going to change. I think the the free video versions are going to remain on youtube
And we will just have a patreon of additional content when that I think the patreon
We do a an advanced link or something. Yeah, we'll do like it probably do like an early and ad free thing
I'm thinking maybe we maybe we do some some patreon game nights where like people can people
Members of the patreon get like exclusive gaming sessions with your game nights
Uh, maybe we maybe have some exclusive shows with you and you and landon
I can do a print of the month. I could do
Yeah, I could do a print of the month where it's an eight by ten and you get it for free with the patreon
I got ideals
That's that's a thing dylan pasta is an ideal man
George we need to fix this camera because i'm looking at it and I hate it
This is like your camera. We can keep this my camera because this is the reason
It's this light in my fan
We'll figure it out guys. We got this covered. We'll work on that
Uh, but yeah, uh, that's the plugs. That's the intro. That's the outro. That's the interview with kofi
Guys pro wrestling tees dot com slash swanco
There are so many shirts up there. We just added three more dylan and I got at least another 10 in the works that we want to make
Uh a little peek behind the curtain. I submitted a shirt design dylan approved it
Reluctantly
But we knew that a lot of people would want this shirt and then pro wrestling t said
Uh, you can't make that shirt. So we're gonna go back to the drawing board on that one
Oh, we come back. Hopefully it'll be a little bit better and uh, we won't get in trouble for it
Also, we might be having very soon
The live laugh limp biscuit
Might officially
It won't be gone pro wrestling tees guys. It's it cannot be a pro. I want that. I want that
I don't know if it's be your koozie so bad enough fuck
There we go. There's the f bomb of the week. Fuck koozie. I've been getting so much heat for this
Oh, wait, what's the follow over you said this episode are you are you admitting that you're wrong?
Hell no, but i've been getting so much backlash over this
koozie
ball roar i
I
It makes me angry joey hudson
posting his 97 beer koozie
These guys get then then and then and then and then
They're tagging me because I sold them
Yeah, i'm gonna make money
It doesn't mean i like them. I don't have it
Huh?
You sold beer koozie. ACW Wisconsin ones and the major pod did ones of the uh, uh, uh, the the cart of me on the cart
I didn't do it. It wasn't me. I do the ACW ones. Yeah, but I hate them
I hate them and then my dad eric postle today
Today at mother's day and lunch eric postle. I travel with two in my car at all times
You are all here at a nice there's a lot of people that like beer koozie's and you don't i think you
Was lost this battle for a like a gathering and uh, I need to know what drink is mine
He goes, but I really don't because i'm the only one that drinks caffeine free die coke
And i say don't you're literally proving my point you don't need to or here's an idea hold on to it
Hold on to your drink
I'm not I just it's it's it's this week this week might have been maybe
The most backlash i've gotten for a hot day yet
This was the outro of the podcast
I was I was waiting. I was waiting for you to be like george plug your shit. I was like, oh
I forgot we gotta I gotta
We gotta talk about the follow-up because I know that a lot of people were tagging us and I saw a lot of people tagging you and there's a
Lot of chit chat and the discord that I was just like this is gonna be an easy close out. That's gonna be like guys
Fucked up. You were right. I was wrong. Hold on if I was proven wrong
I would admit it. I would fully admit it
Chris banger. You know what Chris banger had the audacity to say to me this week. He goes
You are the angriest person I know
And I know
I
I literally said to him. I said
Don't you truck your shoulders
Like oh
He goes you are easily the angriest person I know
I'm myself very calm. That's the weirdest part. I find myself very calm like
That's the best
Clip that that's the best
And then we're all together and like everyone agreed at the table there was a table like seven of us ever goes oh yeah
He's not wrong and I go and I'm looking at each person. They all go
Just now they're gonna go
I'm not that angry like I'm not I don't wake up going on today. He's gonna suck
New leaf Dylan wakes up and he is just you gotta do the do the thing
Leaf
But he's happy
Until someone just starts with me
And it it it's I see something or I read something and then I'll bet her off
Guys, this has been going past. Oh, thanks for coming along for the ride
Bye
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