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I love this interview because I feel like a lot of my listeners, I feel don't know
about Tony Chimmel.
My nose is itching like a son of a bitch right now.
I keep itching my nose and it's actually like inside my nose but I don't want to be
called out for picking my nose.
That's something I go through in life doing.
Like in my car, if I have to itch my nose but it's inside, I put my finger in my nose.
And then I go, oh, am I picking my nose?
Does this constitute picking your nose?
Uh, but Tony Chimmel, I feel like I was saying, I feel like Tony Chimmel doesn't know or Tony
Chimmel is someone that a lot of people don't know a lot about.
And we talk about a lot of things that a lot of people wouldn't know he was a part of.
And then we talk about video game stuff.
You had a question that we brought up?
I did.
We talked about his interactions with the video game world when it came to WWE stuff.
Editing this whole interview together.
I think it is, like you said, very interesting because I don't think a lot of people know
a lot about Tony Chimmel.
So this is a very interesting backstory into how he got into the wrestling business, the
connections that he had, you know, prior to him even getting involved with the WWE.
And then just, you know, his time there, the other activities that you guys got into
while you were on the road.
A topic of you guys playing gin comes up.
Whatever would have thought that didn't film, I was a big gin guy.
I still play gin to this day.
Usually on Wednesday afternoon that slades me.
There it's my afternoon cards.
It's myself an 87 year old man, an 85 year old man and a 53 year old man.
Playing cards on a Wednesday afternoon drinking diet pepsi's.
That's what we do.
And that's how I feel like, man, I'm getting real old.
I'm getting real old.
I'm playing cards on a Wednesday afternoon.
I'm sure that there's a lot of people that would like to be in that kind of situation
where it's Wednesday afternoon and they're playing cards.
Yeah, you know what most of them are?
Retired.
Like that's a.
But it's a hobby that I don't think a lot of people expected you to have.
I don't.
I'm going to teach.
I was listening to the interview.
I was like, yeah, I'm going to teach Atlantic cribbage soon.
I really want to teach him.
Okay.
Because I was about his age and I was doing cribbage tournaments with my dad, which sounds
like a jackbox game to be honest with you.
It does.
It makes me.
It's a bit.
It's a bit.
Cribbage.
That's the jackbox game.
But I really like this one and it made me just happy.
Whenever I see his big dumb face, I just smile and his little plug sign that he had holding
up.
Oh, guys, this is one of the ones.
Obviously, you can go and watch the free video versions of all the other small talks
that Dylan's done over the course of us doing this podcast and even prior.
But this is one that I almost need to recommend the video version more because there's just
there's so many moments where Tony holds something up to the camera either to pop himself to
get a rise out of Dylan to just.
This is his life.
Like this is what he does to me just to exactly what you said.
Get a rise out of me to pop himself and I made me miss him man.
Made me miss him.
I love that man.
It's perfect.
Well, Dylan, without any further ado, you could do your little clap or snap your fingers
or whatever you want to do and be throwing this on over to your small talk with Tony
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Guys, I know one told me about that.
It's going to be a fun one.
Another small talk with this time with the man that wears many hats, none of them fit
well.
The second best gin player in the world.
Really?
I was tied for first.
Chimmel?
Yes, sir.
Chimmel, you have been requested by absolutely no one.
We've ran out of guests, obviously, as you can see.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I had to have you on.
Hi, pal.
How are you?
Really?
Well, I upped the ratings on Bradshaw show.
And now I guess I got to do you the small favor, no offense, of course.
I am doing fantastic.
Life is great.
Life is good.
You're in Florida.
You're out of the normal seasonal weather up in Jersey.
Just loving life.
Yes.
We moved out of God's country north about three and a half years ago.
Now we're in God's country south.
What can we do better?
And we do have the seasons.
We have summer and when we have hot.
So it's good.
I was just going to say, hot, hotter, rain is your three seasons.
That's what you have.
You don't have the four.
Right.
Do you miss the snow at all?
No.
Dude, I don't even miss the cold.
And you know what the great part is?
Is that people down here, a lot of them are like, oh, I can't wait.
The falls come in.
The falls come in.
No, no, you don't want the fall.
You don't know what the fall is.
Okay.
The fall is like cinnamon sticks, maple leaf cookies or something like that.
No, the fall is when you get the windshield factor in that fucking blows and all that
bullshit that I fucking hate.
Done.
Hate it.
We're not admitted in and there's the first rant already.
But among many more, you know, what can I say?
You got to turn your light.
There we go.
Guys, he's going to it's going to pop up book.
20, 20, signing your convention.
The chimeo.
I literally have it in my notes.
I have it in my nose to plug the cameo and in the gym.
These are your chimeo isms and I was going to bring it up later.
But these are some of the chimeo isms that just drive people bonkers in the production
office when someone would ask your email address and it would be Tony.chimeo at.
Oh, that's the A with the circle around it, of course.
I have no.
Most people.
I have is AT.
That's correct.
Stolen this and it gets the same reaction.
It does every time for you of just just just the blank stare of we get it.
We know what it is and then explaining it more and the same reaction.
What are some of the other famous chimalisms that you know, if your email ends in a dot
com, it's not DOT com, it's just the period dot like com.
You know, I speak English.
I don't speak technology.
I speak Jersey English too.
Did you, did you grow?
I forget because I don't really listen to you a lot of the time when we do talk.
When did you grow up in Jersey or in Philly because you claim.
I grew up in South Jersey, which basically is Philly.
If you're from North Jersey, that's New York.
If you're from South Jersey, that's Philly.
So yes, Philly's my hometown.
It was my hometown airport.
So yeah, if I say, if somebody says, Hey, where are you from?
And I say, I'm willing to borrow a new Jersey.
They're going to be like, what the hell is that?
Why would you just say New Jersey?
Okay, because you don't know, you can't just say New Jersey.
You got to decipher North and South.
So I would say, I'm from South Jersey then, you know, or I would just say I'm from Philly.
But you're not from Philly.
Right.
I'm from that Philly area.
So if you're from Nevada, you could say you're from California?
No.
If you are from.
You see why this is always an argument, always something that was very argumentative when
you would bring up that you quote unquote from Philly.
If you're from a small town.
Yeah.
Okay.
Where are you from?
Oshkosh, but gosh, or whatever.
God's country.
Oshkosh.
Yes.
Okay.
No one knows that.
You're from Green Bay.
No, no.
I say I'm from Oshkosh, which is direct center of Milwaukee and Green Bay.
Oh, so now you're mentioning Milwaukee and Green Bay.
That's not another state.
That's not a state.
What's going on in the airport?
Appleton.
Don't even know that sound.
So you grew up in Jersey.
Yes.
Okay.
And if I remember right.
40 years.
Okay, you grew up next to gorilla monsoon.
Yes.
Yes.
And is that's how this whole thing started?
Correct.
Yes.
Yes.
They moved into our neighborhood.
This was probably the late sixties.
1960.
Uh, but yeah, they moved in in the late sixties.
I was probably about seven or eight years old and gorilla moved in like four or five
houses down and he had a son, Joey and Joey was about the same age.
He was probably like five or six then back then.
But yeah, we all hung out together and you know, did you know of gorilla monsoon being
this star of sorts immediately?
Yes.
Yeah.
Well, yes, we kind of we cut.
Yes, because you know, then we were getting older, like nine, 10 years old and stuff.
We all watched wrestling on Saturday mornings, you know, and we all knew and, uh, you know,
we knew his dad was big and stuff like that.
We knew his dad was gorilla monsoon, you know, and you know, being nine or 10 year old brats,
you know, we would always give Joey a rat the shit, you know, wrestling's fake and your
dad's fake and all this other stuff.
But, you know, Joey took it well and, you know, but there was one time where, you know,
I was getting on his case and one time there's a knock on our door and there's gorilla standing
there, you know.
And my dad answers the door and there's gorilla at that time.
He was probably like 400 pounds, six, eight, you know, huge wrestler, nicest guy in the
world, but he just kind of told my dad, Hey, can you give my, you know, my dad's like,
sure, no problem.
I'm on it.
So your dad and gorilla weren't close like you and Joey.
No, no, I'm okay.
You know, but, you know, because gorilla was a whale, too.
But always had a freaking Cadillac in the driveway with the K-Fabe license plate.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, like, what is this K-Fabe?
Oh, that was that was was the license plate.
Yes.
It said K-Fabe on it.
Yeah.
How does she got to have this K-Fabe?
So when, what age were you when you started?
Like, would you just, did it go from, Oh, yeah.
I mean, you were talking about earlier, how you kind of razz, Joey, a bit about the wrestling
and all that.
Yeah.
We were like, you know, eight, 10 years old, you know, just stupid kids.
But how does it go from razzing them to, I'm assuming, attending shows and then doing,
like being a part of and working on shows?
Yeah, we were friends first and just growing up and, you know, hanging out, you know, after
school and stuff like that.
And, you know, I looked at the Catholic school because I was a well-behaved good kid and Joey
went to the public school, you know, but after a while, after a while, you know, I think
Joey was getting into a little bit of trouble.
Gorilla wanted to have a little bit more discipline and go to the Catholic school.
So I'm in, so they were getting ready to send them to, to Holy Cross, the high school
that I went to.
So one time I'm sitting in the lunchroom and the principal comes over father, father of
Forge and he says, he's like, Jim, do you know this?
Gorilla monsoon, Joey Morella, he's coming, he's going to be coming to our school.
And I'm like, yeah, I know him, he lives right down the street from me.
We're good friends, you know?
And he said, he's like, well, his dad's a professional wrestler.
I'm like, yeah, it's Gorilla monsoon, you know?
He's like, well, he was, he was in our office.
We were signing Joey up to come here.
And I told him that the tuition was $700.
And Gorilla said, okay, whipped out a lot of money out of his pocket, undid the rubber
band, because that's always how he had carried his money and handed him 700 bucks right
there.
You know, most of our parents are like struggling making monthly pay.
Like that Gorilla pays 700 bucks right there in cash.
So yeah.
So you know, then we went to high school, you know, he wasn't in the same grade.
I think he was like a year younger than me.
But you know, we were in our neighborhood, we grew up.
We were always playing every sport, whatever was in season, you know, baseball, basketball,
football, we played street hockey.
We did all that crap, you know?
And then, you know, as we grew up, we just became close.
And, you know, there's probably about freaking five or ten of us and always hung out together,
you know, at different times and all that.
And, you know, Gorilla on part, I don't know what it was called, but before, you know,
when Vince's dad owned the company, Gorilla owned part of it, I think it was Vince's dad,
Gorilla, Arnie Scolin, and this guy Phil Zacko out in Harrisburg.
And Gorilla had a ring.
And Victor Kionas would do the ring, but he would also bring Joey and he'd bring us
like, hey, you know, during the summertime or Christmas break or something like that.
Hey, do you guys want to come down to Baltimore or, you know, you want to go to Harrisburg
or do you want to go up to Scranton or something like that and set the, help set the ring
up, you know, and, you know, that was for Gorilla's company.
You said that was for Vince's dad, but he owned, he didn't own the entire business.
Okay.
It was Vince's dad and like three other people, Gorilla, Phil Zacko and Arnie Scolin.
And so we would go for Gorilla.
I guess he had a ring and we would go and help set up on weekends, like I said, or whatever.
And it was like, yeah, who don't want to get out of town, you know, and go have some fun
or whatever and go set up a ring or whatever and get paid for it and come back the next
day or whatever.
But that's how, you know, basically you got started just doing that stuff.
And then when Vince's dad died, Vince, I guess, bought out the other three.
So he bought out Arnie Scolin.
He bought out Gorilla.
And he bought out Phil Zacko.
And I think I'm not positive, but the rumor that I've heard was, you know, he bought
them, each out for a million dollars.
And if they wanted to work for Vince, I guess they would have a contract for life or whatever.
Phil Zacko just took the money and ran, but Arnie and Gorilla stayed with Vince.
It took the money and worked for Vince.
And then that's when Vince, our Gorilla, lost the ring.
So we weren't doing that.
And then a couple of weeks later, I guess Vince called Gorilla and said, hey, you want to
have your son work for me, he could set up the ring and tell him to bring a body, you
know, because he's older.
You guys then?
I was probably well, it was 83 when I got hired.
So I was 22 at that.
Okay.
Okay.
You were.
You were.
Well, when we were doing this stuff for Gorilla, we were probably 18, 19 years of age and stuff
like that.
And then, you know, when I first got hired, I was 22.
And so then it was it pretty much immediately on the road on the road or just when they
were in that.
Yeah.
But you know, it wasn't like real far trips.
I mean, we would do a portion of the country where we would do, you know, because you got
to figure every month, they did the same towns.
We would do Baltimore once a month.
We do Washington once a month.
We do Philly once a month.
We would do Harrisburg once a month, Wilkesbury or Scranton once a month.
We do, you know, I'm trying to think something.
We do like the metal ants once a month, you know, all these different places and.
Wait for the comment.
That's not Elmo.
That's animal.
That's not Elmo.
Yeah.
What's the difference?
They're all Sesame Street guys.
I was waiting for it.
Oh, God, you drive me nuts.
Okay.
So, so it was just it was it was pretty consistent on the road.
Uh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I mean, when you go out to Pittsburgh, you know, probably as far as Pittsburgh, maybe
Youngstown, you know, up to Erie.
And then if I remember it's it's transitions from ring crew to taking jackets just because
they needed a body essentially.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, when it first started out, yeah, we would just set the ring up and go
hang out at the rent truck and do nothing, you know.
I think we used to argue about who would have to go in there and hang up the tag ropes.
Such a tough job.
Nobody wanted me to want to just wanted to do it.
But yeah, I mean, we're just do that.
And then as it started to build a little bit, it was like, Oh, you know, now we need someone
to take jackets.
Well, you got paid a little bit extra.
So I don't care, you know, then they needed a timekeeper, you know, and then then they'd
started playing music, which, you know, we played the little ghetto blaster thing and
the at ringside that was.
Yeah.
Yeah, really.
Yeah, we would have a they would we would have a little, you know, one of those little
stereogemic things, whatever.
And you'd have a line that went into it and you would probably they'd have a cassette
tape made of the talent and you'd put that cassette tape in press play and boom, it would
play through the you either put a microphone up to the speaker or you'd have a hard line
that went into it, depending on the building or the sound system.
Yeah.
Into the side of the bill right into their sound.
I would have never thought about that.
You guys would just do it off of cassettes back then.
That makes perfect.
You know what a cassette tape.
I know what I know what a cassette.
I sure did.
I sure do.
I had the I had a bunch of soundtracks.
And then I had a ninja turtles cassette when I was a kid.
The hell of a piece of turtles.
I had the best of Billy Joel at the time.
Nice.
I liked that one.
I liked that one.
I remember that.
God, you're the worst.
So it goes from that to jackets to your your most notable quote unquote job ring announcing.
And again, is that just hey, this guy missed his flight or has travel issues.
So we need someone.
Why don't you go talk?
Yes.
That happened one day.
I think we're.
Do you remember that?
I don't know if you said it's that gate, but I remember we were in East Drowsburg, Pennsylvania.
And Joey came to me and he said, there's no ringing out.
Sir here.
Arnie wants you to ring an ounce.
And I'm like shorts and a t-shirt.
I don't even know what to do.
He's like, all you got to do is just sit by the table at ringside and announce the wrestler
when they come out.
Do you know about what you this would be?
Are we talking like early 80s?
Probably probably late 80s.
Okay.
So who is who's on the bill?
Are we thinking Tony Atlas?
I remember announcing him.
It was at East Drowsburg High School, I think.
But I'm like, I didn't know if I wanted to do it, but Joey's like, Arnie said, I'll pay
you 50 bucks.
And I'm like, ooh, 50 bucks.
I'll do it.
So I ended up doing it.
I just sat at ringside and I was like, you know, making his way to the ring Tony Atlas,
you know, making his way to the ring Tony Atlas.
It's all about the prop sometimes, you know.
You're the carrot top of ringing out saying booktonychimmel at gmail.com.
He's on Cameo.
Chemio as he calls it.
And then at the Twitter is at Tony Chimmel with a bunch of numbers that really we can't
decipher.
But yeah, that's what I started doing that.
And you know, that was like a kind of like a wall off thing, you know, doing that.
And then, you know, it just it never really came to be.
But you know, I would I'd be sitting at ringside and watching guys like Mel Phillips and,
you know, Frank Juznowski and all these other guys, Frank Juznowski was a guy that announced
him like Hartford, only Hartford.
So did they only have did they have certain ones that went to certain markets?
It wasn't like a hey, right?
Yeah, they're going to be on all the time.
Well, Mel Phillips did a lot of the house shows.
Okay.
But you'd see Howard at like the garden, maybe like a New York show or something like that.
And now that this stage we're sitting, you know, either taking jackets, playing the music,
mind keeping, because he got paid 50 bucks for jackets, 50 bucks for timekeeping, 50
bucks for playing the music.
So you could pull in like a hundred and 50 cash, you know, if you did all through it.
Okay.
All right.
So I'm also I'm sitting there and I'm watching Bell and I'm doing this and you know, and,
and then after, you know, forget there was probably some other show or they just said,
hey, you know, bring a suit with you in case an announcer doesn't show up or anything.
And that's, and then as they started expanding and doing more shows, you know, Mel might
be at this show, but I was at another show, you know, and that's how I kind of got started
as announcing because the company was like, well, he's got to be there for the ring, you
know, you know, he's going to be there.
Why are we paying this commission guy or why are we paying this other guy?
We can pay him.
Okay.
And he'll do both of you for him setting the ring up, bringing out during the show, tear
the ring down.
And that's the same thing with the referees, you know, it was like Joey would, Joey would,
would referee and do the ring or Kiyota would referee or do the ring and, you know, that's
I was going to bring that up later about how, at house shows or live events, you would still
be doing ring crew every show, along with announcing.
And it's kind of nuts how it started that in the 80s.
And then that was always your job throughout.
It was always setting up the ring and doing that along with ringing the bell, along with
announcing, along with taking jackets, how it, there was never other people kind of assigned
for those other jobs at live events that just always stuck with you being the ring announcer.
Yeah.
And you know, the way I looked at it was, you know, you can't have a wrestling show without
a wrestling ring.
So if I'm on the ring crew, they're always going to need me, you know.
So that I've seen the wrestlers come and go and come and go and come and go and other
people come and go and do this.
You know, but the ring guys, you know, they're there a long time, you know, was that always
the same, always a certain road crew for that?
Or was it always locals and like, well, once they started expanding, they had, they had
a, like me and Kyoto were doing the Northeast, then you had like, Yaiton up in New England
with Dameko or for the Dawson's or something like that.
You had a guy in Florida, Ricky Hunter.
You had somebody in Texas, I think, Mike Toomey, who was a guy in New England.
They shipped him to California.
So he was doing a lot of California stuff.
And you know, so we all had our little areas of the country that we would cover, you know.
So when did it start then of kind of branching out from your areas or your, your, your towns?
Well, I think, I think in Caled, too, something happened to Toomey and he wasn't working
with the company anymore, but they had a ring out in California.
And I remember a lot of times me and Yaiton would fly out to Sacramento.
We would rent a Penske truck or a rider truck, go pick up the ring in a cage and do like,
you know, Seattle, Portland, Vancouver, and then come on, drive all the way back, you
know, put the ring in a cage back in it in a storage bin there in Sacramento, drop off
the rider truck and then fly back home, you know.
You talk about the cage, I have to ask, big blue cage or the wire cage, which was more
of a pain in the ass to set up?
The blue one was definitely heavier.
You know, you could back in those days, not now, but you could carry one of the fencing
pieces by yourself and I have loaded that in a truck like the new metal issue.
Yeah, yeah, but the fencing cage is it was better than the blue one.
But I think they like the blue one because the camera guy could get in there a lot better
see through it more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's that's such a part of my childhood and your mid adulthood that like, always remember
that I was in the blue one and then I went to the fencing.
Really the blue, the black one?
It went from the black to the fencing.
Yep.
Okay.
I think he's wanted to blue because he didn't want, he didn't like to have anything that
like WCW had or NWA or whatever that league was.
Okay.
And they had the fencing.
And it's okay.
All right.
So now we're getting into ring announcing stuff where you're doing that essentially full
time.
And I have to ask because it's been brought up many times with you and I in conversations
about not only my favorite band, not only the WWF's favorite band, but the world's favorite
band, Limp Biscuit.
I far the fucking worst.
Tell it, tell the story.
When told me, told me this one, this is a, we're right.
Yeah.
It was at WrestleMania 19, WrestleMania 19 in Seattle.
They're going to do two performances.
Yeah.
But Yait and he goes, he's like, Jim, I want you to introduce the fan.
And I'm like, okay.
And he's like, they want you to say, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the WWE's favorite
band in the whole world, Limp Biscuit.
And I'm like, what?
Who?
This is hurting me because they were my favorite band growing up.
Really?
My favorite band growing up.
Oh my God.
So continue.
So continue with it.
That's it.
I had to make the announcement and it's sad.
I remember you saying to me, that Bruce Springsteen is not Billy Joel.
It's Limp Biscuit.
He said, the stones.
It could have been the stones, he would say to him.
Yeah.
Hi, Ron Rock and Roll, let me tell you another quick story from a WrestleMania.
So I announced at some WrestleMania, some matches I did, some matches other people did,
whatever.
So I was done with my part.
So I get unchanged and unlike the other announcers, I got another job to do.
So I go to the production office and I start working there.
I remember this one.
And John Shelman, best boss I ever had, loved me some Sean Shelman.
So I'm in there back there working and he's like, Jim, can you do me a favor?
I'm like, yeah, what do you need?
He's like, there's some guy named Dan with, who's the guy?
Now I can't even think of the guy.
Kid Rock?
Yes.
That guy.
This was WrestleMania 25, by the way.
Okay.
So anyway, he's like, there's some guy named Dan.
He's with kids rock group or whatever.
No, no, Kid Rock.
What did I say?
Kids rock.
Oh, whatever.
So he's like, he's looking for a pack of Marvour lights or a pack of Marvour lights.
Can you go find something somebody?
I'm like, sure.
So I ended up finding like a half a pack of Marvour lights and I go to their door.
I knock on the door.
I said some guy answers and he says, I say to him, I said, is there some guy named Dan
here looking for cigarettes?
He's like, oh yeah, I'm Dan.
I said, here I got a half a pack of Marvour lights for you.
He's like, oh, thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
You want to come in and meet the band?
I'm like, nah, and I believe.
He told me this story on the Monday after that WrestleMania.
I specifically remember this.
And he told it to me in such a way that I know he told about 19 people prior to that.
And he had the same infectious smile that he just had about not giving a shit about
this.
This is why you're one of my favorite humans because all of that just rolls off the tongue
and you just walk away and have no cares in the world.
I'm sorry.
Jimmy Page back there, Robert Plant, I don't know.
Mick Jagger, do I want to meet him?
I'm not worthy, but sure.
Let's stay on that real quick.
Were there celebrities?
I mean, you, because you saw literally every incarnation of the WrestleMania and the celebrities
coming in and all of that, were there any that you were pumped to be around or pumped
to meet?
You had the first ones with Mr. T and Regis and all that.
It really wasn't, you know, there really wasn't into that, the Mr. T stuff.
I probably should have been into Muhammad Ali a little bit more, but they really, you
know, they had Billy Martin, but I'm not a Yankee fan.
Here's the Mets thing.
Yep, knew that was coming.
Yep, was waiting on that one.
I, were they accessible like they were, you know, during the guest host era where they
were the first few WrestleMania's were the celebrity guests and that were they as accessible
or were they kind of just in and out?
Yeah, I mean, they weren't, I don't know.
It's kind of weird.
I mean, they just never really had celebrities that I was into.
Yeah, probably one of the biggest things I popped for, which I know you popped even
YouTube's when they had the puppet people there, you know, with all the stuff.
Now I know that my wife loved it, you know, and she wanted me to get pictures with them
and stuff like that.
But I mean, I could, you know, I could care less.
That was the best day of my life.
The best day of my life.
You ruined it.
I know a syndogard at the WrestleMania a few years ago, one in who's actually a baseball
for me.
Who?
Don't know a syndogard.
Yeah, he saw he signed a baseball for me.
I have zero idea.
Use the pitch for the Mets.
Okay.
But he signed it as to the world's greatest ringing out, sir.
So he signed it to Justin.
A box go.
There it is.
So we're talking about the Loom Biscuit thing in the world's best announcer or the world's
best band of all time.
Were there any other that you can think of odd announcements from celebrities or just
talent coming up that you can think of that we're like, I don't know about that one.
There was an announcement that I had to make.
It was simple.
So if it was a match, Jaden would ring the bell ding, ding, ding, and then I would start
the following contest schedule for one fall.
But if he's just hand queuing me, right?
I would just announce the person coming down because they're doing a promo or something.
So here comes Trish Stratus down the ramp and Jaden points to me.
And I'm like, what the hell is his fucking name?
Trish, I'm supposed to say something and like four or five seconds are going by and I'm
like, it's not Stacy.
Then it clicks in my head.
Oh, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Trish Stratus.
So now I get out of the ring.
I get down and I know I know the truck has got to be fuming because when Jaden points,
Jim will suppose to talk, you know, heaven forbid, if it doesn't happen as soon as that.
And Jaden comes down, I go to Jaden because I sat right next to him.
He's like, they want to know what the hell was taking you so long.
Would you forget her name?
And I said, yes, that's exactly what I mean.
What's the famous one?
It was a crazy boat thing.
That's it.
And why are you wearing earphones?
What's that deal about?
So I can hear you because I have to take my hearing aid out because I'm 36 going on 80.
So I put headphones on so I can actually hear you in better audio quality.
You know, they make these little ones that you can.
They don't.
I they don't work for my ears because I have one really, really big ear and one small ear,
Tony.
Well, all right.
I guess my life, you know, just yeah, I know.
God bless you.
But, you know, the great, you know, what I'm working, people are walking around, you know,
and they got these little earbud things in their ear and they're talking.
And I'm like, I'm sorry.
What are you saying to me?
She's like, Oh, no, I'm talking to somebody in my ear.
So then I walked around and I'm like, yeah, that's rude.
You motherfucker.
And not you.
I'm talking to somebody in my ear.
Another, another life of chimmel.
This is this is a habit.
They're talking to, I'm like, well, they are talking to someone.
Right.
But nobody else knows that.
Okay.
So you're walking around just talking and nobody.
I don't know.
I'm like, you know, putting something away.
I'm like, what do you want?
Are you looking for something?
Oh, no, I'm talking to somebody in my ear.
I feel like saying, you know, just I feel like saying, that's so stupid.
Why do you do that?
I'm talking to somebody in my ear, you know, ridiculous.
You.
One of the biggest things about our friendship is seeing how much daily life and the world
around you just pisses you off.
Oh, God.
Well, changing with the times is not something that I don't mind changing with the times,
but you can't do this.
Hello, how you doing?
Yeah, what's going on?
Oh, I need this.
Okay.
So we know you're talking on a phone.
Okay.
I don't know.
I, you know, I know I should change for something, but I don't know, you know, it's
changed for the better.
I get it.
Okay.
All right.
Well, a lot of times it's not changed for the better.
It's changed for the worse.
So that Bluetooth is worse for the world.
I don't know.
I do know this.
I do know this.
I sat down at an airport the other day and what's on my armrest?
The little ear freaking thing that somebody just left.
Well, I'm sorry.
If they were attached to your ears with a cord plugged into whatever you were doing,
you wouldn't have forgotten dumbass, you know?
It's just, that's difficult.
Oh, I can't have the word.
Oh, no, the world's going to come to an end.
It's not that difficult.
And this is why I miss our life on the road together.
We're along with Larry, the, the trainer with WWE and Jimmy Cordera's long time ref.
I have it written down that the four of us were a bit of a band for a good amount of
time.
And there was a day where we were riding together and we got a flat tire.
You could take it.
I remember this, St. Louis.
You remember, you could have given me 90 guesses.
It would have never guessed where we were.
But you don't know.
You don't know.
I don't know who wrestling what, you know, or this guy by the way, Kane still hasn't
been eliminated from the 98 battle war.
Yeah.
Oh, it was the 2000s.
It started in 97.
I don't know.
I just know he still hasn't been eliminated legally.
Okay.
So we're driving.
We all meet up in St. Louis, meet at the rental car place, get in the car, start driving.
We're about 10 miles away from the rental car place.
I don't know where we were going, but we're about 10 miles away and boom, flat tire.
And I'm like, well, why don't we just go back to the rental car place or call them on the
no, that's going to take forever.
Let's change the tire.
You know, let's change the time.
I'm like, I'm not changing no tire on the side of an interstate.
So Cordares and Larry proceed to start changing the tire while me and you are standing on
the side of the road and every truck goes by.
We're like, and they're beeping the horn.
That's just to make with the tire.
My favorite.
I bought the third or fourth one in the corner.
It looks up and then sees us like this.
And now puts the pieces together.
That's why every semi that what the drove past on.
Larry, Larry flung that goddamn wrench.
They were all looking great.
Oh, man, we had that those us for.
And then there was I was still 20 years old.
And it was the Super Bowl that the Packers went to.
And we all went to, I believe Larry's house for it.
And this is when until halftime, you guys wouldn't let me partake because I was only
20 years old at the time.
I could know.
Some hotel, I think.
I thought that was the Super Bowl.
It was a Super Bowl.
Oh, no, it was.
It was the hotel somewhere.
We went to joining rooms in order to win wings and all that.
That's what it was.
I think the liquor store for some we had a day off or something.
We went to Larry's for the Packer one because it was Packers versus I don't know football
as you as you know.
It was Packers versus Steelers.
It was Packers Steelers.
Oh, that's what we went to Larry's house.
That's right.
But yes, now that you say that, it was at a hotel with the adjoining room that we couldn't.
And you guys wouldn't let me partake until halftime because I was still a child at the
time.
Some would say that's the law.
A lot of gin, not the alcohol, but the card game was involved in our travels.
And in the road life for you, probably some of my favorite memories were on the gin table
at the gin table.
How did that start?
You are a famous card player.
You're known with the on the road gin games.
You're one of the main heads of it.
Was that just a, was that before you came up?
Everyone's doing it.
That was, that was when we first started.
Arnie Scolin would always love to play cards.
And him and Gorilla would play gin all the time.
But Gorilla wasn't at all the shows.
Arnie was an agent back then, or producer, whatever they're called these days.
But Arnie would, we'd play Crazy Aids with Arnie.
And he would love it.
And if Andre was there, you'd play Cribbage with Andre a lot.
And Andre would just sit there back and drink wine and stuff like that and play Cribbage
with Arnie.
And it just progressed.
That's how we learned to play cards.
And we found out playing gin, you know, how to play gin and stuff like that.
And we started doing that because, you know, you feel you set the rent and you get to a
building at like one o'clock, you'd be dumb at the ring at maybe three.
Maybe go get something to eat.
You still got a couple hours to kill, you know.
So we played cards and then it just progressed.
You know, nowadays, there's none of this.
None of this.
Oh, that's another chivalism.
All this.
It's all that.
No one uses their hands anymore.
It's all through the Bluetooth.
Yeah, exactly.
Was there always, is there any like Hogan or macho or warrior, any rock, any big names
that would stand out that would be a part of the gin games?
Oh, yeah.
You know, Cena played all the time.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love playing.
I even got a picture here.
Here's a picture of me, Cordares, a little habner and Cena playing cards.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
That's a good one there.
Ha ha.
I'm trying to see where that even is.
I don't know where that is.
No idea.
Is that your remember the show somewhere because there's bottles of water and seven ups and
mountain do's.
Those weren't normally on the tables.
No, no.
You have Sprite or Coca-Cola.
That's something that just stands out of the scene of playing cards with him and just the
big losses or the big gains of the card table by the end of the tours where it would just
be guys just either real good on their luck or real down on their luck.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, you play when you're overseas, you know, for like two weeks or something,
you know, you play, you know, five, ten or whatever, stuff like that.
And then usually at the end, you'd probably, you know, double or nothing, the last game
or something.
So if someone was up a hundred bucks or something like that, you could walk away with a couple
hundred bucks or something like that.
But those overseas tours are so long, you know.
And now I see how all the rules, all my ideas, all of the things that I was saying 10, 15
years ago now are happening.
Oh, less house shows.
Oh, not overseas once a month.
Oh, pay per views on a Saturday instead of a Sunday.
Oh, I mean, I will say the best stuff happens.
At the house shows, the absolute most fun happens at the house shows.
There's a white at a TV there, you know, the Charmel, Charmel using you as a chair, the
All Hail King bookers about a hundred times.
About the, I had the, when Mr. Kennedy came out and had you stand on the chair to drop
him the mic from the ceiling.
Yeah.
He was the best Mr. Kennedy.
And is there any other spots from the house shows that stand out that people didn't see?
Well, let me tell you about Mr. Kennedy, the one thing I loved him.
What are you still keeping contact with him?
Yeah.
I said hello.
He's the best.
So we're overseas, right?
And every time that I would announce him, he would, he'd have like a bottle of water and
you'd spit the water in my face, you know, this happened like four or five shows in a
row.
Like, this is getting a little boring, the same thing every night, you know.
So I'm like, Hey, I said, let's try.
Let's do this next time.
Chimmel calling spots here.
Yes.
But for once is the spot where I'm not getting over.
But anyway, so I said, Hey, you act like you're going to spit the water in my face.
I'll cover up my face real quick.
You know, and then you hit me in the nuts.
I'll sell the nuts.
Ow.
And then you spit the water in my face.
And I'm like, yeah, that's good.
We'll do that.
Were there any others in the, even before that or the past that stand out to you?
As far as what?
Gaga show spot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gaga.
Yeah.
Well, you pushing me over every time I had to do that stupid little leprechaun kick or
whatever.
I forgot about that until you started bringing up the Kennedy stuff.
I forgot about that and the stunners so much.
I just had literally mess it.
I wrote down messing with you from under the ring with the worms.
Yeah.
With the microphone board.
Chimmel would, Chimmel would be before the shows how you know the ring is nine, nine
times out of 10 lights would go out, video on the board, and then a bunch of hands would
surround me like local hands and we'd slide under.
And I was like, man, I was bored and I could see Chimmel through the ring skirt, but he
couldn't see me.
And I wanted, I was like, man, I can use this to my advantage.
So there was a time where he was, and now he, it went dark.
The lights went out for in between matches for another video or something.
And I scurried out and I took his ring bell hammer and I came back under the ring and
I saw him then go to ring the bell and there's no hammer.
And he's now going, oh shit, where is it?
So now he reaches under and I hand him it and now he puts two, I can see in his face.
He put two and two together of that.
I got it.
So it turned from stealing the ring bell hammer to during the match, I would be pulling the
mic from the, from his chair.
So you just see this moving microphone and the first three or four people behind him would
notice it.
Like just just moving microphone.
He would, he got smart enough to that cord on it.
Right.
And usually it was plugged in underneath the ring somewhere.
So and I would have the mic right by the bell.
So when you ring the bell, you would hear it.
So I'm just sitting there, you know, sitting there during the show and the mic just starts
going towards underneath the ring and I'm like, no.
So many, he would, he would step on the cord.
Well, every time he moved his foot, I would pull it real fast.
Yeah, I have to move my foot.
The other thing that pissed me off too was after the match was over, I put the mic on
the freaking ring and then I have to walk over to the screen of the ring.
But a time I get over to where the mic is, you've already pulled the thing down off the
freaking ring.
I have to get down.
You know, my favorite was one of them.
One of the times I pulled it and it hit a little ridge and it literally just goes over
the sound system during the match.
Well he then is going to just stepping out it.
He outsmarted me by tying the cord around his chair.
And I didn't know he got up to take jackets back and I pulled his chair.
I, Boogie Man would have the worms and in the dark, I would pull up the apron a little
bit and just start chucking worms at me.
Right.
The amount of fun we had.
Literally, I, me under the ring and just seeing his facial reactions to me messing with
him but him not knowing where I was in front of him.
The only thing that got me sane out there all those years, forgot that you said.
Then for a bit, do you remember when fit and I would play sports during his matches?
Yes, the tennis match.
The bad man.
We would have been at this idea of one time he was in a match and he was in a headlock
and he just started like fake dribbling a basketball.
What are you doing in the match?
I just yell, what are you doing?
He goes, I'm dribbling and I go, okay, I sit and I put my hands on like this and he
passes to me.
So for a whole tour, we would just switch off sports and then I played badminton one time
and I hit it, fit, hits it, I hit it, fits it to chimmel and chimmel hits it back.
It was exactly what you said, that was the stuff that kept us sane, especially on those
tours that could be really long overseas.
That just made the time fly.
A randissally long.
And then I'd get hit in the head with the chillellie every fucking day.
God, that hurt.
He would be doing this so no longer.
We did the show in Belfast and I'm like, oh, this is going to be great.
It's going to be a baby face here.
Even worse.
Oh, he can't even harder.
I'm like.
Because he would stand, he would stand on the chair next to you to yell at the crowd
and as he was getting down, he would whack you.
That's right.
That's right.
Or if I'm taking jackets, I would have to take his jacket and I knew the chillellie was
commenting to be like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, let me see that seven.
All right.
So we got seven things.
Okay.
We're very famously for that.
Like in older, older, like WrestleMania is that you literally just popped up at WrestleMania
10.
I think it was taking the gold chains from Razor.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was one of those things that made me smile.
I was like, man, he is real old.
He's not just been around for a while.
I remember once I'm taking the change from Razor and it was at a TV and low mass at that
little auditorium.
And Razor's handed me the jewelry.
Yeah.
And he's like, you know, don't let anything happen.
It is.
Or you know what's going to happen.
And I said, yeah, I'm up shit Creek, you know?
So I bring the stuff to the back and Bruce is there.
Bruce Richards at Dorella.
And he's like, Jim, the camera was right over your shoulder.
Can't say that stuff on TV.
I'm like, oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't know.
The microphone on the camera picked it up.
Well, it's about time here.
I have to say you then transitioned from that to running the production office, as you would
say.
And that transition, was it enjoyable?
Did you not like it at first?
How did that transition come along?
No, I liked it.
And Yaton was the one that taught me that.
Yaton taught me a lot of things.
Yaton was the best, you know?
And he got let go too for some unknown reason, but any who.
Yeah, he taught me how to work production.
And you know, it was always the more jobs you could do as a crew guy, as an announcer,
as a whatever, you know, the longer you would be around.
And that's what I would tell these, you know, other ring announcers that I was teaching.
And I'm like, you know, announcing yet, but if you're just an announcer, they're going
to change their mind one day and you're going to be gone.
Find something else you can do, get your foot in the door somewhere else, and do something
else because the immediate announcing gig was just, you know, that was like, oh, that's
the easy part of the gig.
You know, I can now I got to go back to the real job and do the real work.
And, you know, Yaton taught me how to do that and I was in charge of money.
And I learned a lot from him and just doing that.
And I really enjoyed it.
And I didn't want us to do the ring anymore.
I was tired of the heavy lifting.
It was nice to sit behind a computer and do work there and learn other stuff and still
know how to do the ring and all that other stuff.
And yeah, that was fun.
I mean, it was longer days.
We walk into a TV at seven o'clock in the morning and not leave until midnight, you
know, and now when I get on a plane, I'm like, how did I do this for 38 years?
You know, I'm like, I think it, you know, and I'm like, you know, back then you just,
you didn't think about it.
You just did it.
You know, you've been sitting all the way, but, you know, it was just did it because that
was your job and you just like it.
It was life, huh?
You know, and I made a very good living at it, you know, and it was a great career
why it lasted and, you know, I don't feel better or anything like that about it.
But, you know, we talked about producer calls to the show George Feese earlier and he had
a question for you.
He hosts a wrestling video game podcast called the Game Marks podcast and he wanted
to know the process of recording the voiceovers for the video games.
Was it awesome?
What was the process like?
Did me knowing your boys were they all about it when they saw you and heard you in the
games?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I used to, that was a great thing to do.
That was really nice because I was paid very well, you know, and to do all the lines that
they wanted me to do probably took, you know, maybe two or three sessions of three or four
hour sessions, you know, and it was great just to do, you know, and you get the video
games for free and the boys loved it, you know, the kids loved it here, you know, I
never played that Gaga, but, you know, yeah.
I didn't realize until he said you were in like visually, physically in a couple of
the games making the announcements.
I thought it was just your voiceover, but you were scanned and everything for the game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they did that a year or two, which was nice.
Yeah, that's awesome.
That's always, always a good perk.
Well, pal.
Oh, he's always, always something.
Well, Tony.
Is that it?
You can.
That's it.
That's all.
I appreciate this.
You, I have to say, you took me under your wing very early to me being on the road, and
I appreciate that.
You've always been an awesome, awesome part of my life and Landon's life and all of that.
Your wife is like a second mom to me who I still call mom to this day and I appreciate
the amount of.
It's going to be very upset if the next time you down here and put the gorta, you know,
they have to.
I have to.
You got them down.
I have to.
I have to see you guys.
Come on, come on.
But guys, book.
Yeah.
Pretty chimmel appearances, signings, conventions, anything.
Indie shows, have them announce your whole show.
You can't get that anywhere else.
No, have them announce the whole show.
Make him do it.
Otherwise on cameo, chimmel is on cameo.
He can give you that world famous in his mind, ring announcement like he's done for edge.
So many times he can do it on cameo as he calls you that.
Yeah, I've done a lot of those and just announced people, you know, from their own
town or even some kid wanted, you know, hey, I'm this guy on the video games and you announced
me on that.
I'm like, all right, whatever, you know, I'll be with it.
Awesome.
Well, thank you, pal.
I appreciate it.
Thanks for everything.
Yeah.
And let me just say this too.
But before we leave, I know Kiyota wants me on his and and have her and Teddy long
the best.
I, you know, here's the whole thing with these podcasts.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
This is the this is the world to me.
This is work to me.
Okay.
This is the world moving forward, Tony.
Okay.
When can I, when can I watch this or hear the show or this will be up both?
Actually this will be audio and visual.
That's why I have you on video.
Okay.
And what so well, I won't even know how to do a podcast if you told me.
I got another episode of small talk in the books.
You will email me something so I can put it on Twitter and then people will hear about
it.
Is that how it works?
Yes.
Whatever.
I'm sure I'll screw that thing up.
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George, that was a blast.
I hope people enjoyed listening to it as much as I enjoyed.
I don't know if hosting is the word.
I don't know if I like that word, but...
It's hard to call it that when it's like a friend of yours that you're sitting down.
It's one thing if it's someone that you don't really have a relationship with.
You know what?
We'll use your own terminology.
When it's not too pals yucking, it feels a little bit more formal where I feel like
this was a more casual conversation because you do have a long-standing history with Tony.
Yeah, it was just like I said in the intro, it was so fun to hang out with him again,
even virtually, and just have some laughs and talk about old stories that we both enjoyed.
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And that's what I like.
I don't like the usual, the ones that you would guess I would have as guests.
I like the random ones of people you may not know everything about, or may not know what
I'm going to come out swinging at them with.
And this was definitely one of those.
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And then we'll also talk about wrestling con in the intro to that episode.
We'll talk a little bit about the things that haven't lot to talk about broken ass toe.
I'm talking about because of Landon.
He had a one day career, broke his damn toe.
And now he's walking around the worst than I am.
He can feel as many he can feel.
Hello, my son.
Oh, here he is.
The star of AC double wrestling con.
Landon.
As many as I can.
Landon, how are we feeling?
Post is hablin.
He's hablin.
He's not hablin down enough.
You couldn't get the elevator pass off.
They wouldn't give it to you.
Alright, get out of here.
We gotta finish the show.
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Dylan Postle.com, where a website update is coming.
Yes.
Up by me.
Up by me at all.
Like George with the helpings of Matt Stein to set up how I didn't know that I bought
Dylan Postle.com.
That's a little peep kind of curve.
He's never known.
Guys, this isn't going to shock anyone.
I bought Dylan Postle.com.
I didn't know how I bought Dylan Postle.com.
And it's a lot of many people who have bought a website and have forgotten that they bought
a website.
I know that I bought it.
I just don't know when or where or how or but I know that I bought it.
My favorite part of that was you and Matt just texting me.
Well, how did you do this?
Like in the group chat and you guys both realizing that it's me you're dealing with
and you both kind of just going, oh, I think we're going to have to do this ourselves.
Like yeah, and he's he's a tremendous help.
So I greatly appreciate Matt.
Matt putting up with me asking 20 questions trying to figure out what the hell you did.
Luckily, he understands the struggle.
So he was very helpful.
I cannot let you forget Dylan the wonderful YouTube channel, youtube.com slash Dylan Postle.
And what's that website where if you want to get like 10 bucks.
Guys, auction got all this is going to come out after.
No, no, it's not.
It's going to come out the day of land and I need my boat.
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What a signature Lex has.
I slammed yoko Zuna July 4th, 1993.
Did it pop him?
Is it though?
Is it a one of one?
George, it's coming out.
I got full video of it me with him signing it coming up on the video diary.
Yes.
He goes, I've never signed one of these.
I said, you haven't.
And the best part was David C's right there.
Chris Boggers right there.
Everybody just watching it happen.
These guys were tee he and at me for buying a boat.
I ain't tee he anymore.
You're going to be able to buy a real boat with that.
Swagglauction.com George, give us your plugs.
Yeah, so in addition to this podcast, I also host another one with former create approach
champion Johnny Clash.
But on this podcast, we call him what Dylan?
Chris.
Thank you.
And that podcast is the Game Marks podcast.
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But Dylan, this is now everyone's favorite part because you're so good at doing this
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Whatever you're ready, sir.
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