Goose Is For Everyone with Sean and Sarah

A service. Welcome to another episode of Goose Chicks Podcast, an all woman show, women lead show focus on the band Goose and the community that supports them. Welcome Luzzi Mac producer and co-host today, we are going to talk with some LGBTQA plus fans of Goose about their experiences with the band and community. It's going to be a really great conversation. But as always, first let's check in with everyone. First of all, our folks cap run ready. I mean, we are, you know, everyone's going to be listening to this today of the cap run, but we're recording this the Friday before. Hannah, you're shaking your head. No, you're not ready. No, no, a little bit ready. The biggest thing is like, I was always raised. You don't leave your house for, you know, vacation or whatever without it being clean. Y'all, I got to do some clean need. But the plans for the cap are starting to come together. So in that sense, I feel really good and really ready. And me and Kelsey from Jively Designs, we got big friendship plans. So I'm going to go. I love it. I love it. I love you. How are you feeling? Ready for the cap? My thing about you is like, you decided to go, but you have you. This is a quick plan for you. It's like you decided and it's here. So how are you doing? It feels a little whiplashy sometimes. Yeah, definitely. You look really fast because I was not intending to go until like a couple of weeks ago. So it feels like it's coming up fast, but I'm really excited to hopefully see all five nights. I still need a couple of nights and tickets and be with all of you. But I've never been to New York either. So everyone knows which nights you need. So they'll hear on Wednesday and then, you know, we can. Yeah, I need Wednesday. I'll be flying in like that afternoon. So hopefully I could make it to the show Wednesday and Friday. I'm still looking for it. I need Friday Saturday. Are they Saturday? Okay. That's all the tickets that we're looking for. Got it. So anyone has tickets. Yeah. Yeah. Let us know who this up. You can literally just tag us literally on any social. We will tag. Alexis, you ready? How are you? You prepping? You ready to go? Oh, girl. Oh, oh, I am so ready. I am so excited. Like, Gustra will be coming to an end. We will finally get to see everyone happy faces, you know, bring filling our cup, you know, with harmony. It's going to be wonderful. And I just got a package before we started recording. And the most beautiful lens, like a new lens came in. So I am just beyond excited to use this baby up there. I mean, what a better place to bring it out and bring out this new lens at the Capitol and, you know, just such an awesome place. So I am obviously I'm just like beyond excited. I'm like, I don't know if I'll have the right clothes. That's a secondary clothes. You know, you're placing it. That'll be fine. I'm kind of ready. I'm trying to get my clients, you know, just all the things they need so I can really be focused on my enjoyment next week. And we're driving up so it's going to be a bit of a long drive. So I'm sort of also preparing myself for that and making sure, Drew and I have what we need to make it go away up in one drive because initially we're going to do two take two days, but we decided not to this trip because we're going to have to fill you as well. So yeah, that's one thing that's just give me a little anxiety being in the car for that long. I'm excited to get up there. And then we had a lot of announcements since our last episode, some special stuff that's happening around the cat first. Our own podcast network of Cyrus is hosting a live event on the 12th next door at Garcia's. They're going to be talking with Rick, Peter and Jeff and also having a little short acoustic set. Very exciting. It's going to be pretty cool. I haven't been to any of Cyrus events before. So I'm super excited to be there. I know a lot of other podcast hosts are going to be there on the network. So it'll be cool to interact with them. And RJ who's the CEO of Osiris, you can follow him on Twitter at RJ. That's a letter R, the letter J, the letter B, E, E and two. On Twitter, he's asking folks to actually reply to him with any questions that they want to ask. Rick, Peter and Jeff, not that they'll all get asked, but he's putting it out kind of crowdsourcing a little bit of that content. So definitely check that out. And then just a day or two ago, Peter and Becky and Al, so we're going to be doing a DJ set after show on the 12th as well. The 12th is going to be very intense. Lots of actually, I think it's a Friday. Oh, is it Friday? It is the Friday. Yeah, I'm glad. Oh, thank goodness. Because I was like, that sounds like a lot of stuff going on. So yeah, so that's Friday night, which is a 10 to 10. Yeah, the 10th. So that's going to be next door on there. So definitely check that out. This first comfort serve, I know Garcia's is not that big. It's going to be really interesting to see how that works out. But I think it's pretty dope. That is going to be spinning and Peter's going to be on a synth. And I'm excited to see what they create together. It's going to be super cool. By the time y'all hear this episode, Alexias will have, and I will have recorded a conversation with Rebecca with Becky Jimin about her work with Peter on their PRC, their park designs. They just had a drop around empathy. And so yeah, I'll be on with that for that. That conversation is going to be on our feed very soon. And we're really lucky to have Becky say yes and come chat with us about that work. So be on the go for that. All right, let's get into our running segments. How do we get down? We're going to be talking about Indian River today, which was just sort of something that organically happened in our group chat. Just some general stats about Indian River before I turn the conversation over to Hannah and Alexias one. It debuted December 20th in 2014 at the Factory Underground Studio in Norwalk, Connecticut. And it is a goose original song. Goose has played the song 80 times y'all and Arabelow has played it twice. This is one of the songs that has so many versions. It's hard to keep track of them all, but I'll go through a few different versions. They have a minor key version. If you listen to the June 19th 2020 show in Reading, Connecticut, you can hear that version. There's a blue gas version of Indian River. If you listen to the 911 20 show in Yarmouth. Oh, my stuff's just went. There's a piano version, the pine show on July 3rd 2021. There's a clave reggae version, which is on the Moon River album. And then the one that we've been hearing most often recently is the 80s synth version, which we heard last at the Cynthia show for New Year's Eve. So yeah, that took a lot to even just say all those versions. With shout out to Goose for taking a beautiful song and playing it all these different ways so that it can touch so many different people, depending on which version sticks with you. And with that, I will turn the conversation over to you, lovely ladies, to continue. So I decided to sort of think about the different passages of this song and what it means for me. And I guess I'm not a very patient person sometimes. So and I feel like if I ever met Rick, I haven't, but if I did, I feel like he gives me patient vibes. Like he would he just is like calm and patient. And so a lot of his lyrics for my need to slow down and take in the world around me. Appreciate things as they come. And I would definitely say for Indian River lyrics that is the case. And so, you know, experiences all I truly know, when held slow, but I moved too fast. Is it the wind upon my neck? Is it the swaying of the trees? Well, I forget that time don't hold us for that long. So for me, I think about, I think about while my mom passing and how that was something that really gelled me to Goose and their lyrics and stuff like that. And then like I just had a birthday recently and I'm starting to feel my age and I'm feeling older. I'm starting to get more in tune with my dreams. I have to keep like a notebook next to my bedside table. So I'll like write down different things that I have in dreams. So that passage also sort of makes me think about that. Or like this song makes me think about that. And so I think we should try and sort of be more in touch with our or in tune with our dreams and ideas. And then another passage I wanted to highlight is your voice is strong now. I heard it in a dream. All your energy growing up in me. And though I know it's always here, I don't feel anything at all. Just heavy drones filling up my mind. Short piece of time dropping like a seed in the snow. So I have to let it go, but man, it's all I know. And so the last thing I wanted to say is like, for me songs have different meanings at different times, depending on where I'm out of my life. And so right now I'm going through a really difficult breakup. And so, you know, this was someone I thought that I was going to be with forever that I'd have a family with. And so this passage really resonates with me right now because sometimes, you know, you have to let things go and you don't know what that means for you or for your future. But it's like one of those things I have to let go of this relationship, but it feels like home. It feels like family to me. And so like it's kind of all I've known or whatever for such a long time. And so yeah, I don't know. I think for me, the interpretation of songs and lyrics can change over time. And then I also just wanted to do a shout out to the Goose community because they did a full blown interpretation of this song for the Ted Poet Society. And so I looked at that. So I was thinking about like, what is this song and what do these lyrics mean for me? And so I just really appreciate that we have that community here. Like if you want to see what other people think about lyrics in a particular song, you can go to the Goose community website and look for the Ted Poet interpretation and sort of see that. And I just think that's a cool aspect of the Goose community for sure. Yeah, I love that we're always looking for meaning. And I also think, you know, Rick has these reoccurring themes around, you know, recognizing that your low points are what propel you to your higher points, you know? And this song continues that sort of theme. We hear it in Tumble. We hear it in so many of Rick's specific written songs. And so I always take that from here. You know, that time doesn't hold us for that long and also that like, there's all I know. And like that experience of life is what kind of propels you and change is inevitable, right? And then we all have to kind of accept it and move along with that. And I always think this song reminds me to not necessarily always fight against change, even though it's uncomfortable sometimes, but like, how do I get in sync with the flow of change and how do I react in a way that allows me to move through it with the least amount of pain as possible. But also recognizing sometimes we learn from the pain too. And so I'm holding you tenderly right now, Hannah, as you're going through the breakup, I know it's really difficult and hard. And yeah, so just sending a lot of love your way. I want to hear what Chelsea has to say because she all of us is like the lyric. We call our Empress for a reason. She always loves the most great things. Like a small, tiny fraction of what you do Chelsea when you break down lyrics just now, it made me so anxious. Like I don't know if you could hear like my voice was like, yeah, my saliva was getting dry because it makes you have to be so vulnerable to do that. And so I just, I mean, we appreciate you and your lyrical interpretation even more. Oh, thanks. Amazing. Well, I found your interpretation super interesting because I would literally never thought about the song that way. And I'm like, oh, wow, that's, that's really interesting to me. But this song means to me and how I look at it is it's about losing your loved ones. And when someone leaves us, they don't really leave us. They just speak to us in a different way. So you know, your voice is strong. Now I heard it in a dream. Your energy is growing up in me. Like to me, that's my aunt who passed away that they're always with me that this, you know, it's your relationship changes, but it's still there. And so when I hear this song, that's what I think about is how are you listening to the way that they are communicating with you instead of focusing that they're not there? Just how can you still connect with them or whatever it is that you believe that you can? And also I just want to know, so that's, you know, what I always think of with this song and I love a song at New Year's Eve that he played this song and the lighting struck me because it was just a bright light coming down like from the heavens. That's what it looked like to me. And they've never done that that I know of at a show with this song. And so when the lighting was like that, I remember I texted Nikki that night. I was like, Indian River, they had the light shining down from the heavens. I sent her a video. I was like, this was amazing because to me, that's exactly what it felt like was like your people are still with you and they're here right now. And so that's what I will be crying every time I hear that song live now because my I have dreams about my mom regularly and usually in the dream she is part of the dream is her being diagnosed with cancer still, but she looks normal. And so I feel like it's her telling me that she wants me to remember her not being sick. And then like I wake up and I'm like, wait, is she still alive? Like it's still very wrong, very real to me, but it definitely feels like her way of communicating and like me and my sister will text each other somewhat regularly like, oh, this thing happened. Let me tell you the whole story and like that was mom looking down on us. And so gosh, I'm just going to cry every time I hear that song now. Thanks, thank you, Chelsea, for your beautiful presentation. Yeah, yeah. It's beautiful. It is a beautiful. My interpretation of it is kind of like the same as yours and I was the same as yours is you know, is slowing slowing down and also so my big thing has always been on just learning trying to learn how to embrace life and live life to the fullest. We only have a certain amount of time here and that we are here to do something. We are here. We have a bigger mission and we need to find that and do good. Like kind of like I was saying, the Dalai Lama was saying the other day is, you know, to leave this world a cleaner place than when we came here and to also do a better place. And so one of the lyrics for me, like one of my life motto is funny thing is I'm here for a good time, not a long time. And so when he's saying in the song, the time don't hold us for that long, oh that long, you know, when he's saying that hit me very strong, like the first time I ever heard it because it was after my sister had passed away and so I guess I see, you know, what you're saying, Chelsea also is like, you know, she had just passed away and it was like, okay, we have, I have got to, I would say we, I have got to embrace this and I have got to make sure that I live my life to the fullest and that I do the best that I can for myself and the best that I can and be a great example to my girls. The best that I can possibly do. And you know, so it just, and also, so that meant a lot to me. That's always been a lot. The incubus song warning, she called out a warning was always a big inspiration in my life. So when I heard this, you know, the time don't hold us for that long, you know, it was a big, a big, what is it? I forget the word, you know, just the same, you know, kind of the same. It's the same meaning. And so, and also, I'm really big on experience and experiences really all we really know. And the only thing I believe, no matter what the next, the next life would be if it's the only thing that we can take with us to the next life is knowledge. And so it's very important for you to have to have knowledge to take that seriously and to have these experiences. And so this song got me in a lot of different ways. And just like we were talking about, songs can mean different things on different days and on different times. And this song is one of those songs that I can play at different times and feel different ways. And it just always, it just makes me feel better. No matter what I need it for on that day, this is one of those songs that can ebb and flow, like whatever you need it for, you can get that from it. And so it's just a very, to me, it's just a very close song to my heart. And every time it gets me in. And just like we were going over the styles of the song, that's also another thing. You can enjoy it so many different ways and so many different versions of it. And I will never forget. I was at Louisville show on 211 and last year, 2022. And they started out with Jive 1 and then went into Indian River. And it was just such an awesome like reggae vibe, like through the whole thing. And I probably definitely listen to not probably deaf, well, not probably, but I definitely listen to Indian River from 211 every, you know, 21122 every day. And it just fills my pebble on that. That's definitely a song that I listen to every day. So I agree with both of your meanings and interpretations because they do mean both of those things at different times and different ways. So a beautiful, it's just a beautiful song all the way around. And we were both at, or a lot of us were at that show before we knew each other. I was at that show. And that's one of my favorite versions. I was listening to that show before we started reporting. Yeah, I listened to the Moon River version right before we got on the record today. I was like, wait, I want to listen to a different version than I usually listen to that one. It was good. All right, we're going to move on to Goose Talk. And I think Alex, is you got a little announcement to make about a competition that happened in Louisville last night. Oh, yes. Super exciting. It's so funny how this is all running together. This is not playing like this at all peeps. It just came together like it should. So last night, there was a big competition happening and the competition was for a spot at summer camp for up and coming bands, summer camp, the music festival that Goose will be at this summer. So one of the bands competing for this along with many other bands was Mr. Please, some Goose fans out of Louisville. I absolutely love them. And so I have heard that they, and we know that houseplant is one of the after parties for one night. And so they're getting together. I've heard through the rumors that Mr. Please is the other night. So we will get for short news on that. But I've definitely had the honor in meeting the guys from Mr. Please on my birthday. Alex not ended up being side by side and jamming out to animal the first time that it was played freshy. And so we immediately became best friends because that song was so awesome and just the bonding, you know, just the bonding over those things. So, but so I woke up this morning and I was just praying the results were up on which man had won. And they were up. So drum roll. Mr. Please won. I'm so, so, so excited. Oh my gosh. So cool. I'm just like, I, you would think it was, that it was my band. Like I'm just so beyond excited. So they are going to be, so they're going to be at Scamp this summer, which short for summer camp. And so while you're there seeing goose, make sure that you put Mr. Please on your checklist because I promise you, you will not regret it. They are absolutely awesome. They're definitely something that you don't want to miss and something that you definitely want to put on your, on your playlist because they are awesome. You will, you'll really enjoy them. I love adding them to my list for summer camp. And I also want to say we also have this competition, my hometown last week or a couple weeks ago. And so shout out to flabbergaster, local band, they will be playing summer camp as well. So I love that competition to get into, to play on the stage of summer camp. Such a cool, just so, so great about the music. One, it gives so much more exposure to additional bands that even if they don't make it to the, you know, to the stage as summer camp is amazing. But also I'll push me in mind, somebody had posted on Twitter, a side by side of Peach Vess roster from 2019 and from this year. And you know, goose was the third font on the bottom in 2019. And now they're the biggest font on the flyer. And it was just so, you know, when I think about a band like house plan or, you know, Mr. Please like getting onto these bills, like how it can open so many opportunities for these bands to get exposed to more people. And we see from 2019 to 2023, you know, goose just like hop, skip, and jumped all the way up the roster for Peach Vess. So yeah, just congratulations to all of them. And yeah, it's a beauty of Fess that people get to be exposed to different music than they may be and that bands that may not have the money to tour get to be out here and see more people. So that's really awesome. I don't know if y'all saw like I'm going to totally bring this up later also. But I don't know, was the announcement that this week or a couple of other, a couple weeks ago, but house plan is doing dumbfist. So I saw that as their first best and I was so excited for them. So awesome. So Louisville, you know, we had the announcement of Louisville. And then we have the announcement of house plan done in after party and Mr. pleased during an after party. So everyone who's Louisville gets to experience both of those bands and after parties. And then they also get their first music festivals this year. So these guys are the most humble, most amazing and talented guys ever. So definitely put them on your list. Everybody meet them at shows, they're totally and follow them on social media. Mr. pleased and look up house plans. So they are awesome. Love them. And huge goose fans. And it means it's another huge goose fans. You know, their music can be there. So that's just like that added to apply. And I also wonder if like, you know, I'm pretty sure that Jeb would be Jeb, you know, supports house plan. Where's our shirts and stuff. And so I'm calling a not. I haven't been told any of this, but I'm calling a Jeb sit in on with house plan because he was at the after party that they were at. And for New Year's, he was there, you know, so I bet you anything while they're Louisville. I hope he does. I bet he'll probably sit in with them and play with them. Now wonder if someone will sit in with Mr. pleased because they're both, they're both really big fans and they're both amazing bands. So, you know, so but hopefully they both get us sit in each night. That would be really awesome. Yeah, very cool. All right. Tell us, we're going to turn over to you to talk about a fan art spotlight for this week. All right. So this week, I thought we would highlight a TEC that's Tolone County in gravy, which is by uncle John and our lovely Miss Tina Varner, one of our favorite goose chicks. So they do custom engraving things like coasters. You can get a whole set list engraved on something. They do picture frames, cutting boards, agates, keychains, and they do a lot with goose lyrics. Again, it's custom though. So you could ask them probably to engrave whatever lyrics you want. I personally, I did not get this custom, but they posted it. I personally have an engrave agate from them that has like a little mountain and sunlight scene on it and it says, seep up all the light and I have it on my altar with all my other things that I use daily, my crystals and things. So I love that. And they were so sweet when I bought it because the one I wanted, there was two and the one I wanted someone snagged it like right before I had a chance and they're like, oh, we'll give you the other one and Tina gave me free shipping or something. Uncle John was like, Tina said you're a goose chick and to give you a deal. So they were so sweet. So I was like, oh, thank you. That was before I even really knew where she just knew I like her post or whatever. So sweet. They will do anything custom for you. They also recently posted and these went super fast too. Some wooden trays that had lyrics from the doobie song. Smart. They'll hit from the doobie. Yeah, those were amazing. I know they went fast though. I think there was like four they posted and they were like immediately taken. They were. Yeah. So when they do post things, they go quick. Otherwise, hit them up for a custom piece and that again, they're on Facebook. Their Facebook name is TEC-TOLAND-T-O-L-L-A-N-D, county engraving. And we'll include that link in our show notes as always. Thanks so much, Chelsea. For our podcast, lowdown this week, we are talking about No Simple Road, which is hosted by Aaron, Mal and Apple and produced by Corey. I'm going to read the description of the show as we are more than just a grateful dead podcast, more than a music and culture show, something other than a deadhead family of cosmic wanderers. We're real people living a life uncommon and we've grown into a thriving community. The No Simple Road family. It really has been a trip to see whether the show was taken us back in 2017. We started a Grateful Dead podcast and soon it became so much more than just a Grateful Dead. No Simple Road has turned into a show about the whole music scene, the community of freaks, heads, weirdos, mitzvitz, stabblers and wildcards that we are a part of and love so much. Beyond the music, we delve into the worlds of comedy, food, art, books and the things that turn us on. Make us think, bring us joy and make us smile. They're grateful to have us all along on the ride with them so you can check them out. I'll have the link here. You can just go to no simple road.com and this, not this, actually yes, Friday and when you guys are listening to some Wednesday, this two days from now, their episode will feature Chelsea and myself. We got to have an amazing conversation with Aaron and Mal about this show, about Goose, about music. It was just an amazing combo. So we'll be on their show a few days after this comes out. So definitely check that out and follow them and subscribe to their show as well. We are going to take a quick break and we'll make it back. We'll have our guests for today, Sean and Sarah. We'll be right back. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. We'll have our guests for today. 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Peter's, I've noticed, I don't know if it's different because I'm trying to think there was echo over Rose. I want to say he uses she. And that's, that's a Rick song, I think, but Peter's on the honeybee whales trying to think they use she, but at the same time, it's like his best experience, you know? Yeah. So, and that hits for me, especially because I, you know, marrying a woman. I don't know. It used to work for me, but now that Sean says. They still hit. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I always like Hannah has this great thing. She says like if people are asking about goose and what songs they should listen to, she asked them if they're Paul or John from the Beatles person and that kind of like leads them to their songs if you're Paul and, you know, Rick songs if you are a John, but I've done that many times, Hannah. Thank you very much for that. I'm so glad that you're here. It's a great way to do so. Also, just playing a Ray below is a great, another way to kind of get people in. They hear the acoustic pieces and then like jump into the rock side. That is what sold me. Yeah. I love the Ray. Absolutely. It's great entry points. So very smart on them to have that as a way. Yeah. I think Rick songs because they're so thematic in nature versus Peter's which are very storytelling. You know, Rick really approaches his songwriting or it seems to me most of the songs he writes are very thematic in nature. And so they're kind of lofty, very high level view of like world and experience and things like that. And so I find them to be more universally applicable because of that. And then when I listen to Peter's songs, I'm like, you know, I'm like, oh, this is an experienced Peter had and he's. Yeah. Right. It's like a different approach to it. So I can appreciate even though I don't, I may not be like, oh, yeah, I have a honey bee. But I'm like, oh, but I hear it in Peter's voice and like about him talking about himself and with Rick, it's like, okay, what is he trying to tell me? Like what is. What is. What hill am I trying to get up? What flag am I grabbing? Like, you know, that's where I always go to with Rick songs. I felt like there's a little bit of, I think there's some truth there and like Rick's lyrics being a little more universal. Yeah. It's because of the topics he tackles and like the things that also. Also something. Something about like needing to process your own personal experiences through music, whether that's listening to music or playing music or writing music. Like it is for Peter, like, you know, there's still something that resonates with his story or like the way he writes, even if it is not like, oh, like he's telling this story that he experienced and I experienced the exact same thing. But it's like that idea of like having music be a way for you to process what's happening to you or what you're experiencing. I think like a lot of us can relate to that. Absolutely. Right. I was watching, well, all this is like going together. Last night I was watching on Goose Community.com. Deepak has the chat with Rick and so they're talking, they're going through many different things and like stages and I'm not for sure if y'all know, but Rick's father passed away when he was very young. And so he's talking about his writing, you know, his writing process and the way that he does things and how that, you know, that he wants things to be all inclusive and for people, for it to be a vessel for people to learn and that he doesn't want for it to mean one thing and that it's not, it's about being a vessel to learn and that he wants for everyone to get what they get out of it. And so it's just really interesting watching that interview over and over and over, you know, because just the different ways that he views it and the ways that he's talking about writing songs and, you know, sometimes when he's got a block in Matt Campbell coming in and helping him write and, you know, so it's just really interesting in how that each song hits us each different ways and we, and not each different ways and each different time in our life. You know, at one point it can mean this one thing, you know, six months down the road you can be doing something else and something else that you can do. And so it's just really interesting to see that you have something that you have happening in your life and you have an epiphany and you're like, oh, wow, this song. Yeah, I totally get this. And then it hits on just another level. And so it just changes all the way through it. And I think through my experience with Goose that that's been the way it is. I love, you know, we'll say all the time, all this is my favorite song because it's what are we going through? How does it hit with us? You know, what do we need for that uplifting support and to get through? I want to build off of that because I feel like I've been listening to so much jam music and so much goose lately. Like, do you think there's something about this particular genre where like, like we were talking about Indian River and how there's like the synth version, the reggae version, the regular version, the Raybello version, is it, is, are these different versions and these different jams? Why were able to be like this version of this song and this moment is my favorite? And then a few days later, it's this other version or it's a completely different song. Like, is it the genre or is it the people who gravitate through this genre? Like, what do you all think? I don't know. Is that too much? Sorry. I think it's goose specific, I think. But I mean, I know fish does like a fast and slow llama. I don't know a whole lot about fish. I've been listening to them. It's like 2015, maybe. Yeah. So I don't know. I think it's like a goose thing. It feels like to me, they just do so many different crazy versions that, yeah, it's just hard to, everyone has a, a, a different baby because it could be the right a, it could be the slow, it could be the fast. So. Yeah. I think fish definitely doesn't have as many different versions of their different songs. They have a few that they mix up a bit, but mostly the, you know, the unique pieces are in the jam itself, not necessarily in the composition of the song. So you're not going to hear possum very different at, at its core. It's going to still be the same song. But I, and I do think that that is a unique thing about goose. I remember like being super confused. I went to a show and like they played so ready. And I was like, is this the same song? Like I honestly, I didn't know. It was a very early, I mean, like even going to shows and like listening to goose. And so. Since then, yeah, as Hannah mentioned in this episode, we're talking about Indian River. And this is a great example of the song that has so many different versions. And I, I always want to ask them, like, how do they decide which one they want to play? Is it just whatever, you know, whatever they feel like or how does that happen? In fact, I'm going to submit that to RJ for a question and see if he'll ask that because that's a good question to ask. Yeah. But yeah, but I do think it is unique to goose. And I think it does kind of draw a specific type of person into liking goose. People ask me all the time. My friends like, why do you see them so much? Because each time I hear a song, it's never the same. It literally, and it's not just just the jam part. I mean, it really is literally never the same. It's not just the jam, the actual music, how they compose it, which, you know, tempo they're using. I know the other day somebody was complaining about like three songs and Jeff like replied to them with the beats per minute for each of the songs. Like actually they're, they're very close. They're like three, three beats off from one another. So they actually are in the same family. And it was so, so I opened it for me. It was like he thinks about these songs and beats per minute. It like blew my mind. And like him responding so directly to somebody like challenging if songs go well together or appropriate to be together. And he was like, well, actually, you know, what's that doing? How much thought, you know? Oh, and I do think it's unique to goose. So there's an array of those that came out recently. It might have been the Colorado, one of the Colorado shows, but where I forget who, but one of the guys is like, who's going to da da da da da, show tomorrow? We're going to play the same set. Like say it like that. It's just, it's so tongue in cheek. And I just love that they also like joke around about it with the audience. You know what I mean? It just makes it so fun. Like it does. And it's like, you know, Sean, when you were talking about the Taboos tour, I remind you of that. I mean, we saw, I went to five of the eight shows and, you know, I think goose played one double and the only double they played was one that trade played and then one they played by themselves. And I think tab repeated like the second, the second show they repeated because there are different type of band, right? They're, you know, a standard band that has like very defined ways in which they play their songs and I mean, they have sheet music and they have a lot of different, and I think it's very different. It's very different, but it was such an interesting experience to have those two kind of different approaches to live music combined together in one show is so interesting. And then it made those encores super special because you had those two things colliding with one another with this hugely improvisational, you know, approach to making music. And then this more, you know, I would say traditional approach to live music. And it was just an, I just thought it was really interesting, very interesting, and it was just an efficient, you know, and you know, goose had gone on tour. It just tabbed with goose, I think, which is a really unique pairing and really special to see how different musicians approach their, you know, their way of working, like watching Des and, you know, and Trevor, you know, play bass together. Like that was really interesting to watch and you know, how is that going to work? And you know, all of that was just really interesting and really cool to see. So yeah, I do think it's unique and something special about this particular community. I'll leave the last question with you, Alexia Sparghis. So is there anything else that you would like to share about the LGBTQ plus goose fan experience? And anything else I'm going to add on to this and anything also that you feel that we as a community can work on and can can help share to others and take this because things that we learn in the community are things that we inevitably take home. That's how wonderful and we all know that. That's how wonderful that our community is. I now get to the point to where certain people I don't even want to be around when they're so negative at home. Like I come home from shows and Leslie, like you were saying how one showed how Drew said that he goes to shows and like it's like being at the altar. Like, you know, that is his place that that is in a lot of us feel that way. Like that is our church session. And I'm sorry for those who are offended by that who are listening because we, you know, it's a whole, it doesn't, that's our experience and that's what we enjoy and that's the things that we get out of it. And I get the same thing. When I leave a goose show, I feel, you know, like I've been so enlightened and I'm taking things home. And so it would be so wonderful to know, you know, what we could learn there to do better and how we could support better and what that we could take home with us and share with those around us and, you know, it help enlighten those. So do you feel that there's anything else that you would like to share and what that we could possibly do better as a community and share with those two others as we leave? Oh, I think even including myself and like not even the goose community, just like as a whole when introducing ourselves saying like our pronouns. Because I know like I felt super comfortable with you, you know, you guys. So I see even then you guys people. So I was able to say hi. I'm so on me him, but you know, at work, you know, if I'm meeting somebody new or something, I'm not, you know, I'm not going to do that. So if other people like us, if we all try to do it and normalize it, be a lot easier. And I guess my other point would be, yeah, just trying not to use gender, gender control or gender specific. Like I just need you guys. Ladies and gentlemen, it makes some of the nine non-binary people not this feel seen. And just one more thing. I never realized that like introducing myself at shows would help my anxiety like Leslie was saying and that that's such a good idea because I think we were right behind through and Leslie and Alexias and Jason at Reading and I don't know. I just never introduced myself. I'm just like, very shy, very anxious. So yeah, I'm going to start using those tips and thank you for that. Yeah. Also, if I'm up front and you introduce yourself, I switch out. So you could have been on the rail. I'm just an incentive to me personally anyway. And I actually learned that from Alexias. The first time I was at the front of a show, she was like, oh, let's switch for a little bit after we, you know, meet each other. So yeah, there's a perk to that as well. I think. Did I not introduce y'all? I feel terrible. You did. Okay. You did. Okay. I was just like, oh, I thought, yeah, but that's definitely, I feel the same way that Leslie does and I feel that that can help everyone's anxiety and, you know, is always introduce yourself to those that are around you. It helps for me. It helps my show experience. And then if someone comes inside the bubble of people that I know, you know, like 10 people around me, I literally start looking and I'm like, we're, you know, they're not a part of my crew that we come in with. You know, it could just be me and Jason going in. It just could be the two of us. But I literally am like, wait a minute. Where did this person go and asking people? You know, and so I think that's another way that I've gotten very close with people. And that's the way that I've met y'all and different people is just, you know, it's just meeting the people around, around you and making sure that you know about people, what's going on. I think with my epilepsy, that's a big, you know, I want to make sure that, hey, I'm okay. You know, if this happens and I have to take medicine at this time. So, you know, everyone kind of starts to set their clocks and, you know, knows because it's an important thing for people to know. So I think that's an awesome thing and something that we can all, you know, make sure that we, that we've practiced on this, you know, this making sure that we say our, making sure that we say, hey, Alexia's she heard. And is that how, you know, how you would say it? Because I think that's another thing. Like if people are just like, I don't know how to say this. How do I, how do I properly say it? Like y'all heard me say like how, because I don't want to, I love everyone and I don't want to offend anyone. It's nothing about like, oh, I don't, you know, I don't think this is right. It's just like, I don't want to offend anyone. So you tell me the way that we're supposed to, you know, the way that you feel comfortable and the way, and then I am totally down because I don't want to, I don't want to hurt anyone. And so this is a good thing to, good thing to start doing with others. And I think our community can definitely do that. Oh, yeah. Awesome. Thanks y'all for coming on the show. Thanks for saying yes. And being so open with us, I can't wait to be at a show together. Again, I'm super excited specifically for our time at Asbury Park. It's going to be awesome. I'm really excited about it and can't wait. Do you, is there any way you want folks to follow you or are you on socials or if not, that's fine too. I just always like to make the option available for folks when they come on the show. You can follow me on Facebook, Sean Bates if you want to. I mean, I'm one of those people, if I see you and I think you're cool, then I'm going to add you and hopefully we share this way. It's not whatever. Yeah. Sarah Elizabeth. Yep. Awesome. Thanks y'all. Any last words that you want to share with everyone before you give back to your regularly scheduled programming? No, just thank you for having us. You guys, you're awesome. People are awesome. I love y'all so much. I'm really excited to be here. I'm really excited to be here. I can't wait to see y'all soon. I will definitely be seeing y'all in SPAC if I don't come and visit y'all before because y'all have nieces that y'all need to meet and are going to be so sassy. I'm super excited because they're going to be at SPAC and we're going to, you know, we're all going to be there. Well, which was the best they're going to be. I think I know Leslie's going to be at SPAC. Are we all going to be at SPAC? Oh, yeah. That's awesome. So, Auro, my youngest, which has not been people have seen pictures of her here and there, but she has not made her debut on the goose scene yet. And so, she's making her debut at SPAC because her daddy, his first concert was at SPAC with Janet Jackson. So, he just was like, he's like, oh, what a better first concert. SPAC, the same place her daddy went to. And, uh, goose, he's like, couldn't ask for better. And it was like, so true. And he's from Saratoga Springs. So, he's excited to take the girls up there, showing where he was, you know, born and raised and stuff. And then first concert, some similarities and stuff. So, I'm so excited to have all of us there and take care of it along. This is going to be exciting. Somebody tell a band to give her a shout out. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Definitely. She might go out there on stage. She's a little feisty. She brought me like, give me that microphone. I'll say your song. You got to watch those lipos for sure. Yeah. All right. Thanks, Sarah. Thanks, Sean. So much. Have to do really soon. Thank you. Thank you. Y'all. Western Sun Foundation has launched their second campaign in support of an organization local to the upcoming Capitol Theater Run. 914 Cares, only seven miles from the venue, works to ensure their neighbors in need are cared for by collaborating, supporting, and providing resources, educating the community about poverty and encouraging actionable generosity. WSF will be providing charitable support through donations made directly to Western Sun Foundation and launching an online auction to benefit 914 Cares on Tuesday, February 28th. Head over to Western Sun Foundation Socials. Check out their website westernsunfoundation.org, or if you're going to the Capron, stop by their table for more information on how you can support this great organization and campaign. 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