Alright, so Matt, I heard there was this new drug out, this new like experimental drug,
whatever, that you can just go buy it over the counter and it's apparently supposed to cure skepticism.
I'm not buying it.
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Before we get into it, I just thought I'd let you all know if I wince at any point trying to click my mouse in my notes or whatever, I just thought I'd let you all know.
We are on Michael's school's PTA, right?
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But I was trying to clean this stupid machine the other day and I'm wiping it.
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So I am sore.
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Why?
What's this little?
Is this cherry flavored popcorn?
You put some salt?
Oh, it's so good.
Yeah, and an extra salty.
Extra salty, Adam's blood comes out salty.
It does, man.
It does.
I'm a salty SOB.
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So Matt, that's all the housekeeping I've got. Why don't you tell us? What are we talking about
tonight, brother? Okay. So tonight Adam and I are going to head out to the West Coast to Portland,
Oregon. And we're going to talk about probably the happiest friendliest haunted house in the US.
That is the the Pitock Mansion. Now, I am going to say Pitock. I have heard Piddock,
but I've heard Pitock more. So I'm going to go with that. So in Portland, it probably is Pitock,
but I've just been saying Piddock Mansion the whole time. So whatever. I don't know how that's
exactly said, but I've watched enough videos that I've heard it both ways. So if you're from
there and you get this episode and we're just like, Oh my God, I can't believe these two clowns
are mispronouncing the name of this place. You need to go back and listen to the other shows
and hear how we butcher other places. But your place is in our home states. So it's not just
we just our tongues get tied. I mean, it happens. So as we always say, go check our sources,
go down to the bottom of the show notes and check where we got all this information. You can continue
the information and you know, we like to give props to the people that went to these places
and did the research that Matt and I don't get to go do. But now the Pitock or Pitock Mansion is
located at 3229 Northwest Pitock Drive in Portland, Oregon. Now the home once symbolized the heights
of Portland's wealthy elite, but after just four years, both homeowners died. So
I wanted to start with that because it's kind of crazy. I'll talk more about it,
believe me, but I wanted to start with that because it's like you build this
opulent house and then you only get to enjoy it for four years. I just feel bad for them, really.
But before we get into the house, we need to look at the owners. Henry Pitock. Now this comes from
the Peddick Mansion's historical info and there's a few others in here, but go check our sources
if you want to see where we got all this. Now Henry Peddick, he was born in 1834 in London,
England, but he grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, where he attended preparatory school and he
worked in his father's printing business starting at about the age of 12. So as always, back then,
they started work early. There were no child labor laws, so you could make them child's labor
all you wanted to earn your keep as my dad used to tell me. But right.
Now in 1853, when Henry was 19, he headed west on the Oregon Trail to seek his fortune.
Now he landed quote barefoot and without a scent in Oregon, in the Oregon territory in October of
that year. Now a year later, his future wife, Georgiana Burton, left Missouri with her family
and headed west as well. Now when Henry and Georgiana arrived in the area, Portland was a frontier
quote stump town that was actually competing with Oregon City to become like a major trade and
industrial center for that region. So it's pretty interesting that you've got Oregon City, but
Portland, I guess, kind of beat them out in the long run. But at that time, they were still trying
to get it going and it was they were neck and neck. Yeah, but you know, going back to,
going back to Mr. Pitot, think of the resolve you got to have at 19 years old to head out to
essentially the great unknown. I mean, I know, I know how I was 19. I was not going to just take
off and seek my fortune. You know, I just, I realized times were different, but that,
that is impressive. I mean, usually you hear about these people doing this, they're in their 20s,
you know, they, he's a kid. He takes off, right, to make his way in the world.
You got to remember that at that time, the West, it was the quote, Wild West, it would,
we call it that nowadays for a reason, because most of the city started up on the eastern seaboard,
and that's where the longest inhabitation of the new world was, and it slowly started moving West.
Well, that time, there was a lot of stuff in between that kind of would, would kill most people.
I mean, the Oregon Trail, you could end up with dysentery and die on the Oregon Trail.
That's right. I mean, you know, it was, it was in the video game for a reason.
It had to be true, right? Yeah. I mean, it was, that you, that's the thing.
You might not even survive the trip. I mean, you may not even get to where you're going.
Yep. And so for like Matt said, for him to strike out at 19 on his own,
even with times being different and people growing up a lot quicker back in those days,
then kids do now, that's still a risky business. And oh, yeah, for him to not only make it
out there, but just to say, Hey, this is what I'm going to do. And then when you hear what he's
accomplished and in his life, you'll go, I make sense. Why he accomplished this because of just
that attitude that he had, I'm going to go make my fortunes across the country. It wasn't like
hopping on a plane and you're there in four hours. That, that probably took him a long time to get there.
But Henry found work as a typesetter at the Oregonian at the time. And this was when the
newspaper industry was actually financially risky and it was fiercely competitive. So there were
more than 30 newspapers launched in Portland during this period. Good lord. Yep. So we think now,
we've got a lot of newspapers in one area, but back then, any Joe and his wife could start a
newspaper and didn't mean it was going to be popular or whatever. But if you had a printing press and
some connections to paper, you could start up a newspaper and start printing stuff. So
there were 30 just in the Portland area. And he started working for one of these, the Oregonian
and like they said, it was risky. It was a risky endeavor at the time and very competitive market.
But on June 20th of 1860, 1860, don't know why my tongue did that. 18 trickery. I don't know what
that was. On June 20th of 1860, Henry and Georgiana married and five months later, he had given ownership
of the paper in exchange for back wages. So we hadn't been paying this guy.
Right. And he kept working. We just give him the business.
Yeah, just give him the business. So here, Henry, you now own the newspaper and he's like,
but wait a minute, you still haven't paid me. I still haven't made any money and this may fold
pretty soon. So where's my money coming from? At least that's what I would have said.
Now, Henry went on to transform the Oregonian into a successful daily newspaper that's still
printed today. So that's incredible. Yep. So if you're in the Oregon area and you get the Oregonian
newspaper, Henry Piddick was one of the first people to own that company. And it's been going
this long. Now, Piddick went on to become one of the wealthiest men in Oregon society.
Now, while best known for being a successful newspaper publisher, Henry also built a financial
empire by investing in real estate, banking, railroad, steamboat, sheep ranching, silver mining,
and of course, the paper industry. So he was a what would you a pioneering guy in all this or
he just took risks that worked out for him. Now, he was an avid outdoorsman. And in his childhood,
they said he was a mountaineer. So even before he moved out to Oregon, in his early childhood,
he was a mountaineer climbing mountains and doing all this stuff camping up there. He was a bicycle
enthusiast. And he was among the first group to climb Mount Hood. He helped found the Mazamas
climbing club as well. Now, Georgiana Piddick became a founder and fundraiser for many charities
and cultural cultural organizations such as the Ladies Relief Society, Women's Union,
and the Martha Washington home, which was a residence for single self supporting women.
Now, it wasn't until the early 1900s, 1909 to be specific that Henry started planning his
quote, mansion on the hill on property that had this panoramic view of Portland.
It also overlooked the Willamette River and the distant Cascade Mountains. So if you can picture
that, that is a beautiful view. Yeah, the front of your house. Yeah, it's amazing. I mean,
I'd love to visit it. Let alone the way down. Yeah. So all of, all of Portland,
the Willamette River, Cascade Mountains in the background as the backdrop to all of this
had to be gorgeous, even back then when there wasn't much of a Portland.
Now, with big plans in mind, the pedox hired the architect Edward T. Folt to design their
mansion from scratch. Now, if you remember several of the
asylums that we've talked about, the hospitals for the
the quote, mental patients back in the day, his fault guy was involved in a lot of those.
He was a pretty prominent architect back then. Now, the 46 room mansion,
this let that sink in for a minute 46 room mansion. Yeah. Was built on a hill, like I said,
overlooking Portland with a French Renaissance exterior. The inside was uniquely designed with
oak paneled cabinets, marble floors, a huge central staircase, modern amenities like an elevator
and dumb waiter, and perhaps most strikingly beautiful views of that area, Mount Hood and the
Cascade Mountains. So we've we discussed that, Matt, in another episode, I think it was the
Winchester house where she had an elevator put in. Yeah. So I mean, I guess with 46 rooms,
you got to have something like that in a dumb waiter system and everything.
Yeah. And there are a lot of similarities here as far as the
to us, the odd technology that they were able to install and incorporate into this house.
Right. I mean, I mean, the Winchester house had had like gas lighting
and things. I mean, that just wasn't heard of to have that built into your house. And they both
had that type of intercom system where you could, you know, call back and forth. So, I mean,
I can't imagine that there were many homes in the entire US that had something like that.
At the time, no, right. It was it was cutting edge at the time. So pretty cool. Now,
foil lines the inside of the entryway ceiling. And it's a nod to Georgiana's frugal early years
when she had to save foil from old tea containers in order to decorate the house.
So I thought that was cool too. She used to save the foil linings of tea containers
and put it on the wall as wallpaper. And so they still have, I couldn't find if it was original
or if it was just a refurbishment of how what she would do kind of to say this is what it would
look like. But I thought that was cool. It kind of a I don't know that it would be a look that I
would go for in a home, but to have like the foil, it's a unique look. Well, you know, I've seen those,
those like those 10 ceilings where they're like pressed into a design. Yeah. I've always thought
that's kind of that's kind of neat looking. I've seen some some bathrooms that have that
that look. It's kind of cool. So I would imagine this was had a similar appeal to it. Maybe just
not as decorative, but still what a what a good idea. I mean, to do something like that.
Yeah. Now, construction actually began in 1912 and Henry and Georgiana moved into the home in 1914.
This was when Georgiana was 68 years old and Henry was 80.
So waited their whole life, basically, to get this house and they moved in with eight other
members of the family. Now, the couple only lived in the mansion for roughly four years before
Georgiana died in 1918 and Henry passed away the following year. Yeah.
So the family continued to live in the home and to the 1950s. Now, the last resident was grandson
Peter Gatton Bean, Gatton, Bine, and his father Edward and they moved out in 1958 and they put
the mansion up for sale. Now, the mansion sat empty for about four years and then was hit by
the Columbus Day storm on October 12, 1962. So hurricane force winds damaged roof tiles and
window panes and then that allowed water to get inside the mansion. And by 1964, the mansion was
in poor condition and developers actually expressed interest in tearing it down and turning the
estate into a subdivision. Those fricking developers wanting to turn everything into a subdivision.
I'm just angry because I keep seeing things here in town go from trees and nice little forested
area to, oh, it's another strip mall. Yeah. Yeah. And they sit empty for it's not like, oh,
we built it because we've got companies wanting to come in, they built it and then they sit empty
for five or six months until people rent it. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
you're in the town. We've got that going on right now. Yeah. You know, so I'm just a little bit
already perturbed at developers. So yeah. But they wanted to turn the pedic mansion into
a subdivision, but dedicated citizens of Portland rallied and they assisted the city in raising
the funds to purchase the property for $225,000, which included $67,500 raised by citizens.
So just the citizens put in $67,500. Yeah. That shows you how much they did not want a subdivision
there and they wanted to save that mansion. Well, maybe, but I like to think that it's just
the, the people, the citizens of Portland realized the historical significance of this amazing house.
Yeah. And to see it just fall into ruin, it's like giving up a little bit of Portland history.
Yeah. And it's true. So you got to, you got to save it. You got to save that stuff. Mm-hmm.
Well, the work needed to restore the mansion and transform it from a private residence to a
public space took about 15 months. So in 1965, the mansion opened to the public as a historic
house museum. In 1968, the nonprofit pedic mansion society was formed to take on the
responsibility of furnishing the mansion, taking care of the collection and providing educational
activities. Now, in 2007, the society took over the day to day museum operation from the Portland
parks and recreation department, and they've been operating the historic house museum ever since.
Now, the pedic mansion society is a 501c three nonprofit organization whose mission is to inspire
understanding and stewardship of Portland history through the pedic mansion. The society also works
with Portland parks and recreation to maintain other historic buildings. All admissions,
memberships, donations, grants, and museum store purchases go to the pedic mansion and its mission.
So I think that's really awesome that they are dedicating all that stuff to saving the history
of Portland. Because you know me, I'm a history nerd, and I hate seeing history get wiped away.
So it's really cool that this society is actually doing that. Yeah, absolutely. And
from what I've seen in the research, the it's it's very affordable to take this tour.
You know, some places it's like, oh my gosh, you know, 25 bucks ahead to wander through this old
house. But theirs, I don't have specific pricing. But when I looked at some of the reviews,
you know, they all talked about how it was free to look around the grounds or, you know, it was
really inexpensive to take their whole family. And even one review I read these folks went because
they just they had a big layover before they're flight out. And they just they said, Oh, we can do
this and kill a few hours. And that's what they did. So I think it I think it's great. I think it's
great. That's a beautiful house. I mean, absolutely beautiful. Unbelievable. You can go. There's tons
of pictures out there and their website has has a lot of really good photographs of the house. So
you can get a feel for not just the size, but you know, how just how unique it is. And just the
splendor of it. It's amazing. And you can see pictures taken from the property out. So you get to see
that that Vista, that view that we were talking about with the mountains in the background,
it's incredible. Yeah. All right. So you see, you know, the history of this place,
not all that scary. Right. In fact, it's not scary at all. There's no, there's no murders.
There's no mystery. There's no jilted bride that jumped off the third floor balcony.
Right. So you're like, why would this place be haunted?
That's kind of what I was thinking. My answer is why not? I don't. Yeah, why not? But
like a lot of places, the the the Pitok Mansion shows up on many lists of some of the most haunted
homes in the United States, definitely the most haunted places in Portland, Oregon, which is,
by the way, full of haunted places. Right. We've talked about, we've talked about places in Portland
before. So there's tons of haunted history in Portland, but this doesn't really seem like it
would be. And the fact that as Adam mentioned, they only spent about four to five years in the
mansion before they both died. But they died in the mansion. And not only that, the like the
groundskeepers, any servants, other family that had come, they all died there too.
Right. So, but not, not tragically, not brutally, just naturally, but they still died there.
So maybe they're hanging around. And some people think maybe they're hanging around their retirement
home because they didn't get to enjoy it that long while they were living. Couldn't bear.
But since the 1960s, visitors have reported odd activity in and around the mansion. Now, as Adam
said, it was around that time that the mansion was going through major renovations. The storm in
1962 had done substantial damage. But, you know, when the people and the city bought it in 1964
to save it, they start all these renovations and what have we said, you do renovations to an old
building, you wake stuff up. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So the ground workers and the visitors and the
staff all agree that the ghosts that are present in the pitock mansion are not malevolent in any way.
And many people assume that the ghosts are the spirits of Henry and Georgiana Pitock.
I mean, why not? As Adam said, why not? Just spend your days in this beautiful mansion that,
you know, you didn't get to live in very long. But according to staff and visitors,
odd little occurrences happen almost daily in the mansion. Some of them are a little creepier
than others. But again, nobody really feels like they're being attacked or any kind of danger or
that they're not wanted. So the most activity in the mansion occurs in the upper rooms. Now,
visitors report that when they enter the rooms, they immediately smell this intense fragrance of
rose perfume. Now rose perfume, you know, in the 1800s was very, very common.
Right. Okay. But like a lot of other things, it wasn't exactly where you could just
go down to the Walgreens and pick it up. Right. Okay. So it was hard to obtain. And most of the
time the ladies that had or could wear rose perfume were, you know, of they were people of means.
Okay. Because they still used ambergris and perfume back then. And that was expensive and hard to
get a hold of. Yeah. Like they still use it today. Yeah. That in some of the, it's funny. I read an
article about amber grease the other day. Yeah. Talking about how rare it is, but how the fragrance
is so unique. If you all don't know what ambergris is, look it up. You will be shocked. So go look.
I don't want to ruin the surprise because I won't do it just as explaining it. So just look up what
ambergris is and. But the, you know, not to not to go off on too much of a tangent, but what.
I think you and I were talking about this what a couple of years ago. A where was it? Was it in
Spain? This guy was picking this stuff up off the beach. And he thought that it was just pretty
rock. Mm hmm. It turned out to be amber grease to the tune of like $260,000. Yep. I remember
us talking about that, but I don't, I don't remember where it was. Yeah, it's crazy. So anyway, Rose
perfume, people smell it when they go into the rooms. And the staff believes that this is
Georgiana making her presence note. Most visitors report feeling surprised by the smell. And most say
that the, they feel like that presence wishes them no ill will. Now the apparition of a woman in a
long gown has been reported in the mansion, even in the basement. And it's assumed that this
is the spirit of Georgiana. Now outside of the mansion near the northern side,
visitors report hearing the sound of a shovel hitting the ground. But then right after they hear
the sound of heavy footsteps kind of stomping towards them. The staff believes that this is the
sounds of the groundskeeper going through his daily routine. Now some have a report seeing an
apparition of in like disheveled clothing as if he'd been working out on the grounds, even to the
point of potentially mistaking him as a staff member. So that's why they think, okay, this must be
the groundskeeper, but like the pit dogs, the groundskeeper lived and died in the mansion.
But everybody says he's also a very kind entity. This is the house that I want to go with.
That's right. I mean, that's why I said this is the happiest haunted house in the
east. Besides the that South Pittsburgh hospital where the ghost goose is men, I want to go there
just to get ghost gooseed. But I would love to. Hey, we're going to do it. We're going to do it.
I mean, we need to look and we're going to do it or we can both go. So, you know, we, I had the
opportunity to go. Adam couldn't get up here. So I, you know, I was going to take Brooks and then
he, he flaked and didn't go. So, so Rob, if you're listening, we're, we're going to go. Okay, then
the next time, you know, you decide to investigate there, we're going to go both up. As long as I
got a heads up, I can make it happen. But a lot of people say they, they strongly feel this
supportive unseen presence. It's been felt by the staff and visitors. And some people that are more
sensitive to this than others say they have felt this presence almost escorting them around the
mansion. Like following them like a good host would do. Like giving you a tour, like,
come check out my beautiful home. A few folks have even reported seeing a male spirit walking
through the home with the assumption that this would be Henry Pitock himself. Now, footsteps is a
very common occurrence. Okay. So they're heard around the mansion in the mansion, you know, at all levels.
And they happen at random according to the staff members at any time of day.
There have also been reports of boots walking, not a person, just the boots.
Just boots. So I can't let you look around. Here come a pair of boots.
Just walking in the hall. That's weird. Yeah. Hey, Henry, how are you?
That's weird, man. That's a new one on me. That's like a cartoon. Yeah, that's new for me too. I've
not heard of that. But the worst thing was is that I could only find that story in one source.
It was a good source. So I trusted it, but I didn't see it anywhere else. Right. So, you know,
if the staff listens to this, they go, nobody has ever seen that. Okay. So somebody claims that
they did. Yeah. But still, I've never seen it before. So I included it. That's cool. Oh, yeah.
And if you're the person that saw it, please holler at us and tell us what happened. But
if your staff, yeah, get in touch with us and let us know if any of this stuff is actually
accurate. Yeah. But one thing that the staff do report is seeing windows in the mansion open
and close themselves, almost as if they have a will of their own, not that the spirit's doing it.
The house is doing it. Yeah. And if they're old windows, that's a feat too, to get old windows
to move. Right. And so I was reading a review of somebody who had visited the mansion just a
couple of years ago. And he said, when he got there, the first thing he did was ask one of the
staff members, Hey, if the spirit's been very active today. And she kind of said, well, it's
funny, you ask. Like this morning, we were opening up the windows to air out the house and cool it
off. And said, we opened a window and it closed and latched on its own. And so he said, okay,
okay, I got a look at this. So he went and looked at the window and he said, it was one of those
that kind of swings open, you know, it wasn't like a pain, a pain glass where you slide it up and down.
He said it swung open, but even if the wind had blown it, which it's it's a it was a heavy old
window. So even if the wind had gotten strong enough to blow it shut, he said it had one of those
latches that you have to take your thumb and physically flip it over to close it. He's like,
so there's no way the wind did that. Right. So I thought that that's pretty neat too.
Well, and I like what you said about it's almost like the house did it and not a spirit because
I do like to think sometimes that some of these houses, it may not be spirit activity.
It may be the house. Yeah. And that I know people say, well,
you're anthropomorphizing stuff or whatever, but there's been a lot of stories out. And it's a topic
I want to cover about things themselves being animate when we don't think they are.
Well, consider this. Okay, because I'm with you on this that in some cases, houses, buildings
become almost like living, breathing entities, you know, and but but this is what I want you to
consider. How many times have you walked into a home, a room, whatever new old it doesn't matter.
And you feel something good, bad or otherwise. It's not just, oh, I'm in another room. You go in
and you feel an energy there. Okay. That you can explain it. It's not something you could describe,
you just go in and you're like, I have this room has a feeling of all its own. This house has a
feeling that you just can't explain. But I think I'm with you, Adam. I think that sometimes that is
not spirits that are in the house. That's the energy of the house itself. And whether it's just
collected energy, positive or negative over the years with families living there with,
I mean, we all we like to talk about all the negative things that happen in these houses because
it tells us why this weird entity may be, you know, poking people in the back of the head or
throwing glasses across the room. But if we, you know, flip the script on that and say,
what about all the birthday parties? What about all the wedding celebrations? What about all the
baby coming home for the first time? You know, what about all of that? I mean,
there's there's no negative energy associated with those events. So we feel a house with positive
energy. What if it takes on that? Where you it just the house itself gives off a positive energy. And
if if any any place that that you and I have researched over the years would fit that description,
it sure seems like the Pitok Mansion is it, you know, that that there was not just love between
Henry and Georgiana, but they were they were just nice, good people. And that just flowed
throughout the home that they they built for themselves. Well, and it's like we've talked about
before when I said, you know, there negative energy can be like a sludge that gets put on the walls
of a house or a hospital or whatever. The opposite is true as well, like you were saying, positive
energy. Now it's not going to be like this ethereal sludge if it's positive energy, but it can radiate
into the area as well. Like it's not just negative energies that are involved in the stone tape
theory. Right. The stone tape theory works for anything. So if there's enough positive energy
in a place, then why wouldn't it, like you said, take on a life of its own and be a be a positive
haunted house? We don't talk about it much because it's not as quote, fun to talk about, but
not everything is a freaking demon. Like I've been in doing my job. I have been in so many houses. I
couldn't I can't even begin that count 20 years. Kat burglar. Yeah. We weren't going to talk about
Oh, that was good. That was good. Yeah, but but you know, going into patients homes,
there have been a number of homes that I go in enough that I might this place just feels good.
You know, this place just feels like home. You know, I've even told patients, you know, I've
shown up on, you know, in an afternoon and the sun's just right. And I'm like, I could just take
an nap on your couch. You know, it's just so nice. You know, there's something about it. I think
I think that's what's going on. I think it's just they're filling their home with positive energy and
it kind of sticks to the wall. But you know, back to some of the weird things that happened.
And this one is kind of neat. So visitors and staff report seeing a portrait of Henry Pitock
move around on the wall by itself. Now, I saw I found two different instances for this.
One makes it sound like like this, that it's a portrait like hanging on the wall. Like when I
say portrait, what you think of, I know I found another couple of instances where it was like,
like a photograph in a in a small frame that was sitting on a mantle. I couldn't tell exactly.
But I think when you listen to this, it sounds like it's it's actually positioned on a wall.
But it moves around. Now, it'll it'll show up in another room or it'll show up in a different spot
on the wall. And some people have even reported seeing these human-like shapes moving the pictures,
furniture, house plants from not just around in the room from room to room.
Right. Yeah, I mean, one visitor reported that she heard a picture fall off the wall in one of the
rooms. Now, when she went to go see what it was, she was watching as a woman wearing a long gown,
picked up the falling picture from the floor. So the staff member, a staff member came up behind
this woman and said, Are you okay? And said, while she's standing next to her, she looks at her
and the woman vanishes. Oh, wow. Just standing right there. Yeah. So,
I'm a lot of apparently not. I'm dead. Yes, it's not okay. But apparently,
a lot of folks believe that this is Georgiana just redecorating her house.
Yeah. You know, just moving stuff around. Oh, well, this picture of Henry needs to go over here.
That was the other thing. There was a picture of him from his youth
that moved around. And they're like, you know, if you put it one place, then you come back in a
few hours or maybe a day or two later, and it'll be somewhere else. But along with the portraits
and the in the paintings in the in the home, one visitor reportedly was looking at a portrait on the
wall and saw the reflection of an older woman in the glass like she was standing behind her.
Right. But then she turned around and there's nobody there.
So that's a that's a little trickier than the than the mirror thing. You see something in a mirror.
It's going to look more solid, but you see that reflection. You can't make out a lot of detail,
but you could tell there's a woman coming up behind you. And you know how you do somebody comes
up behind you. You don't know. You just naturally just turn around and go, Oh, hey, how are you?
And you turn around and nobody's there. Wait a minute. Now, this this one, this is this next one is
the one that makes me say, this is the happiest haunted house in the US. There was a tour group
of native Hawaiians. Okay. They came in and one of the youths that was in the group told the staff
member, my uncle is a shaman in Hawaii. And he says that he can feel the spirits of the pitocs
here. And they are very happy. Oh, nice. I mean, you we just don't hear that, man. I was like,
how many places have we we've researched that the ghost was happy? Yeah, they're usually
pissed off. Yeah. They're either pissed off at how they died, pissed off that you're there,
you know, whatever or are just mad that they are dead and they're stuck.
Now, one one story is about a female employee who got kind of spooked one night as she was
closing up the building. Okay, so she's closing up for the night. And part of her routine was to
turn off all the lights in the mansion. So after all the lights were off, she began locking the doors
and including the front door. And as she turned around to head out for the night,
all of the lights in the museum or the mansion switched back on.
Now, it just it just kind of goes to show no matter what what you think.
There's been enough that happens in this in this mansion that there's something that haunts
the grounds and the mansion itself. I mean, it's just there's just too much going on.
But, you know, I always love when places like this that offer tours, I always love to go and find
people that have done this and leave reviews. So I did I did find several, but this one,
this one was good. So this these visitors posted their experiences at the mansion
on the site Oregon haunted houses.com. Now, one post describes a rude encounter with a young spirit.
It says during a behind the scenes tour at the pitock mansion, I had an unseen entity,
a child, I guess, based on the height, shove right past my left shoulder or my right shoulder
and the wall said, I felt it through three layers of clothing, including a leather jacket.
It says this was in the children's bedroom area of the mansion, where the hallway is a little bit
narrower. Says this was the first time I've actually had an encounter with anything paranormal.
Huh, pretty cool. Yep. And it's cool that it her or their first encounter.
Yeah, it's a physical touch. Yeah, because people that
sometimes people can get into where they believe something was a paranormal encounter when it
wouldn't because they really want it to be. Or, you know, when when you get there's some people
that you talk to that are like every single day, I have a paranormal encounter. And it's like,
eh, but do you really? Yeah, you know, there's some people that I can believe that they do. But then
if you're writing a review about it, I kind of think maybe not. But since it was her first,
I, you know, that's cool. Yeah, yeah. Now, there there haven't been a lot of investigations here,
but one paranormal investigator did get the opportunity to poke around the mansion. And
she actually caught a couple of EVPs. There was one man saying, I'm heading back. And she said she
had felt a strong presence following her tour group around the mansion or her group. It wasn't
a tour group. It was her, I guess, the other investigators. But in one of the smaller rooms,
she caught another EVP of a friendly female voice saying hello. So you you add the EVPs on top of
all the other things people have reported. And it really does seem like this place is haunted by
friendly spirits. Mm hmm. I did find some things about, they said in the children's bedrooms,
they had a lot of these little clown dolls and stuff. And they were kind of creepy as all get
out. Oh, yeah. Well, somebody even posted a picture of this one particular clown doll. And I was like,
geez, that is, that is awful. I'm glad I didn't see that picture. But I do not want to see that.
But be on that. That was like the biggest negative, you know, it's like, if it's haunted,
it's these dolls that are doing it. Yeah. It's coming from this room.
And, but yeah, I mean, with all of these, and look, I love to, when I start digging into these
places, I go until I start getting repeat stories. Mm hmm. And if I start seeing the same stories,
you know, repeated that I've already read, I'm thinking, okay, then I've found all the little nuggets
that I'm going to find. But there were so many. They were a lot of the same stories, but you could
tell that it wasn't just they were regurgitating it from another website. You know, these were,
oh, this happened to this person, this happened to that person. You know, when they say visitors
have have seen these windows open and close, you know, they're not talking about, you know,
a couple, you know, they're talking about regular visitors to the mansion on a routine basis,
witness this happening. Staff members who are there every day, they see it happen very, very
frequently. So it really, really says, yeah, I would say that, you know, Henry and Georgiana
decided they're going to, they're going to spend the afterlife in this, in this beautiful home they
built. Yeah, well, like we said, they didn't get a lot of time in it when they were alive. So they're
like, I built this stupid thing. I'm gonna, I'm gonna hang around and enjoy it. I'm gonna hang out
here. You know, so just imagine, just imagine had had they gone forward and demolished this place
after the storm. We wouldn't have these incredible stories. And you know, Portland would have lost
out on a, on a piece of, a piece of history. So yeah, yeah, I'm glad I'm glad they did that. And then,
you know, in 2023, you know, two bozos get to talk about it on a podcast. Right. Exactly.
Exactly. Thanks for not destroying some material that these bozos could talk about. We appreciate
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And this was, this was a fun one. This was a fun one. I enjoyed, you know, hearing about this place.
It was somewhere I just kind of came across and I pitched it to Adam and he was like, let's do it.
So I like that it's, it's not a super scary place. Yeah, we do a lot of super scary. So,
it's cool that it's not something like that. It's more like it would be if the people were
actually still living there. A happy place. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no brutal history.
I would a serial killer in living the basement or nothing. There's no no portal to hell down in
the basement or under the stairwell or right, right, right. Creepers and shadow people and stuff
running on the walls and exactly. So, all right. That's all I've got Adam. Until next time,
we'll save you a seat in the graveyard. See you soon.
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