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Okay, so tonight we're going to be taking a look at something that is, it's really pretty cool that there's this much associated with it.
And what it is, we're going to look at ghosts and hauntings that are related to the Titanic.
Oh, yeah.
And now you may say, what, the Titanic's haunted, you know, it's what, you know, 13,000 feet, but you know, down and just bear with me.
You got to remember, they pulled an awful lot of stuff off of that ship and they pulled a lot of personal items from, you know, the victims.
And those items are spread across a variety of museums and exhibits and they may have had some sort of attachment.
Because I was just having a conversation with my daughter earlier tonight and I said, you know, I started naming off all the different museums and stuff and I was like, they all have reported some paranormal activity.
And guess what?
Each one has got hundreds of artifacts, you know, either taken directly from the ship or from the bodies of the victims.
And I don't know why it would be hard for anybody to believe that these artifacts could be haunted.
I mean, if you listen to our show, we're talking about so many haunted artifacts that had, I mean, way less of a traumatic end to the owner than what happened in the Titanic.
Absolutely.
And I mean, you're really, you're really going to dig this one.
It's, I'm speechless.
Just all the stories that we were able to uncover.
Actually has been telling me to do.
It's pretty great.
Actually has been telling me that we need to do the Titanic for a while.
So she is going to really love this episode.
Yeah, I mean, it was, it was a lot of fun to research.
I learned a lot about the Titanic that I didn't know, not necessarily about paranormal stuff, just about the Titanic and the passengers, you know, the well-known figures that were aboard.
Yeah.
The Titanic, it's, it's amazing.
Yeah.
And you know, look, I've seen the movie and I've read the books and I've been to one of the museums and I've, you know, and I still learned stuff.
Oh yeah, I'm doing all that.
Oh yeah.
And I mean, and one last year's the year before last, I helped Michael do a Titanic paper for school.
And I still learned stuff here that we did not put in his paper.
So now as we always say, go check our sources down at the bottom of the show notes.
You can find where we found all this information.
And like Matt said, there is a ton of stuff out there.
A ton of interesting wild stuff that you were not taught in school.
You probably didn't see in documentaries or anything that you can find if you do a little searching.
So go down there and bottom of our show notes, check our sources.
Now, there is no need for me to go into a long discussion of what happened to the Titanic because, sure, like I said, you either learn about it in school.
You watch the movie by James Cameron or you've seen several of the countless documentaries about it.
But I'm going to go over a brief synopsis just so we have it in our head as to what happened.
Shortly before midnight on April 14, 1912, on the fourth day of its maiden voyage, the Southampton to New York trip.
It was the greatest ocean liner in the world.
And they said it was built to be unsinkable.
But it hit an iceberg and within two hours and forty minutes broke apart and sank two and a half miles to the ocean floor.
The sinking of the RMS Titanic was one of the worst peacetime maritime disasters in history.
And of the 2,223 people aboard the ship, only 703 survived.
That is a huge loss of life.
That's why we still talk about it today.
That's right.
Now, but given the amount of time between the collision with the iceberg and the ship's total immersion underwater,
you know, they said all could have been saved had there been enough lifeboats and had those lifeboats been filled to capacity.
As it was, women, children and the very rich fared that night probably what they called the dismal best.
Now, 40% of first class was lost, 60% of second class was lost, 75% of third and the like percentage of the crew.
So, as in most cases, the Uber Rich got first dibs.
Yeah, well, they were up there.
Yeah, exactly.
If you were already up there, the film class and the crew were down way down in the bowels of the ship.
And one of the things that I had not really ever considered while doing this research was the survivors guilt that these survivors had when they got home.
And not only that, a lot of the survivors were shunned.
Yes.
Well, I'd say mainly male survivors.
Yep.
Because when you knew.
I've got a little bit about that.
Oh, cool.
There's a particular passenger that was very shunned because of what you're talking about now.
Right.
And other people maybe they had lost friends or family loved ones, you know, in the sinking.
But they managed to survive and carry the guilt of why me?
Why did it have to be them?
You know, why couldn't they still be here and me be gone?
You know, that kind of that kind of guilt eats away.
Oh, yeah.
You know, talk to someone that's been in the military.
Oh, yeah, 100%.
And it's been through, you know, wartime or even just times of conflict and get an idea of what survivors guilt can do to a person.
Yeah.
And this was at a time where, you know, they didn't even have a term for PTSD.
Right.
They certainly didn't have anybody that was actively trying to treat it.
Sure.
Yep.
So, yeah, I mean, this was a disaster that continued on well after that ship sank.
Yep.
Exactly.
Now, 22-year-old Charlie Shorty, he was a gentleman's valet.
He paid eight pounds, one shilling, to buy a third-class passage aboard the Titanic.
Now, he had planned to begin a whole new life in New York City.
A fiance was waiting there, and he would, with money raised on the family silver he carried with him, start a taxi cab business in the city.
Well, excited.
He wrote a postcard from the Titanic to his father as a Titanic left Queenstown for New York.
Said,
Hope you all will.
This is the boat she is a peach.
She smashed into another boat leaving South Hampton.
There is a great vibration here in the stern.
She'll be in Queenstown today, get New York next Tuesday, so we'll ride again later, see quite calm, fondest love to all, and hugs for push.
Well, Charlie Shorty went down with the ship and his body was never recovered.
They do have his postcard.
Now, what I thought interesting about that is he said it smashed into another ship as it was leaving the harbor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't remember reading about that.
Nope.
I don't either.
They didn't mention that part.
Now, keep that little...
Oh, it's coming through.
Yeah.
It rattled my way.
They're heading to New York.
They're driving like the taxi drivers in New York do.
Yeah.
But keep that little bit in mind as we get further into this on what could bashing into another ship have done.
Could it have damaged it?
Could it have cracked it?
Whatever.
But just keep that in mind.
Now, you may not know this, but there is a 1912 silent film about the Titanic called, quote, saved from the Titanic.
So the James Cameron film was not the first saved from the Titanic was.
It was starring a survivor of the Titanic named Dorothy Gibson.
And it was released only a month after the Titanic sank.
Man, talking about jumping on it.
Quick turnaround on that one.
Now, according to the Los Angeles Times, she even wore the same clothes in the film that she was wearing on the fateful night.
A white evening dress, long sweater, gloves, and black pumps.
Although some critics praised Gibson's performances, other said it was too soon to capitalize on the disaster.
Unfortunately, like the real Titanic, saved from the Titanic was lost as well.
All of the prints of the film are believed to have been destroyed by a fire at the studio in 1914.
So it was only out and available for two years.
It was a silent film.
Yeah.
And I mean, it got.
It got mixed reviews, which I think.
I think nowadays, if something like that happened, now you would not be able to do something a month later.
Yeah.
Like, no.
Most people, I think there might be one or two that would go, yeah, I'm going to do this.
I'm going to be the first to do it.
Get it out of the month.
Nobody would produce it.
Nobody would film it.
Nothing.
Yeah, you couldn't even start to get the funding for a project like that.
No.
Yeah, imagine if they had tried to make a movie about 9-11 on nine months later in 11.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, in October, we've got this movie coming about.
What?
Yeah.
No, not a chance.
Ain't happening.
But yet they, they did it with this.
I'll tell you what else is kind of amazing is they got her in the same outfit she was wearing on the ship.
I would have probably burned those clothes.
I would have never wanted to see those clothes again.
Nope.
Nope.
I mean, really, that's just me.
This is my bad luck dress.
I'm not wearing this.
No kidding.
I'm not, I'm not putting on these black pumps ever again.
Yeah.
I've said that before though, but that's a whole other thing.
Never again.
Never again, Dad.
Got it?
All right.
So I've got a few interesting facts about the Titanic that I thought we should talk about being that they're interesting facts.
I found them interesting.
Yeah.
So now, a person survived the sinking of both the Titanic and her sister ship, the Britannic.
And I guarantee you people are going to know this story because it was pretty popular, but I have to say it again.
Violet Constance Jessup, maybe the bravest ocean liner stewardess and nurse in history.
Not only did she survive the unfortunate sinking of the RMS Titanic, but she also survived the sinking of her sister ship, the HMHS Britannic.
Additionally, she was also aboard the RMS Olympic, their other sister ship, when it struck a protected cruiser.
After the war, she continued to work for different ship liners.
Years after she retired, Violet claims to have received a call from a woman who asked if she had saved a baby on the night of the Titanic.
Violet replied, yes, and the woman replied with, quote, I was that baby.
The person then hung up.
Violet claims to never have told anyone that story before the call.
Miss Jessup, who was often referred to as Miss Unsinkable, or the Unsinkable Miss Jessup, died of heart failure in 1971 at the age of 84.
Can you imagine?
Wow!
You survived two ships sinking, a third getting hit, and then you just kept working as a nurse in stewardess on, after the first one, I wouldn't be back on another ocean liner.
Nope, nope, not me either, I'd be like, I'm my feet are going to stay on the ground.
I'll be a nurse at not even going to go to the beach.
No.
No.
I'm going to move to a landlocked country.
I pushed my luck once by surviving the Titanic.
I'm not going to push it again.
She pushed it and overcame that several times.
Now, not one single engineer aboard the Titanic survived the disaster.
They sacrificed themselves in order to give others a chance to escape.
So when the order came to abandon ship, it was far too late for the engineers aboard the Titanic to escape.
They could not make their way through the confusing passageways deep in the heart of the Titanic, and many of them most likely did not try.
They probably did not drown, but were instead crushed by the boilers and machinery that broke when the vessel sank deeper.
They died carrying out their duty and sacrificed themselves so that others would have a chance at surviving.
Now, this next one I got is what I was mentioned, what I mentioned earlier when you were talking about people being shunned.
The only Japanese survivor of the Titanic was condemned as a coward in Japan and lost his job.
So Masubumi Hosono was the only Japanese passenger aboard the Titanic to survive the disaster.
When he arrived in Japan, he was condemned by the public for his decision to save himself rather than go down with the vessel.
As a result, he lost his job, but was soon re-employed and continued to work until 1939.
This says that to be fair, a lot of the men that survived the Titanic were frowned upon because they were supposed to let women and children on the lifeboats first.
However, Mr. Hosono was the only survivor who reportedly lost his job as a result.
There were a lot of stories about women who refused to get on the lifeboats because they were scared.
They didn't want to leave their partner.
That was a lot. You can imagine how fearful it would be.
The ship you're on is sinking and you're out in the middle of ocean.
It's dark and you're going to get in an open air lifeboat.
That's pretty terrifying.
I think I would have been able to overcome that.
It's either this or we're going down on this bigger one.
At least if I get on this lifeboat, I've got a chance.
I got no chance if I stay aboard here, but fear and panic, it does weird things to people.
It wasn't so much that people had this idea that these men were pushing and manhandling these women and taking their spots on the lifeboat.
That wasn't necessarily the case.
If you had a lifeboat that had a spot and there was nobody left to take it, why wouldn't you take it?
That was the story from several of the male survivors.
Despite that, the idea was still, you're a bad guy because you came back and there were women and children that didn't.
That's on you all of a sudden.
I hate to say this, but I might be one of those putting on a dress and pumps and popping on that thing going,
Never again.
Apparently finding that Titanic was a front for a cold war mission.
Explore a Robert Ballard.
Explained that looking for the Titanic in 1985 was actually a cover for his recently declassified mission to explore two sunken nuclear submarines.
Ballard, who wanted to find the Titanic wreck, secured the funding from the US Navy in exchange for completing research on the USS Thresher and the USS Scorpion, which coincidentally were located in the same general area.
Plus, the search for the Titanic provided the perfect cover story.
They wanted me to go back and not have the Russians follow me because we were interested in the nuclear weapons that were on the scorpion and also what the nuclear reactors were doing to the environment.
So Ballard told CNN in 2018, the secret mission left him with only 12 days to find the Titanic afterward, which we all know he did.
If you ever want to see something cool, go back and watch the interviews with Robert Ballard after this happened.
I mean, he is a pretty cool individual and him telling this story of how they did this.
It's incredible.
Yeah.
You're thinking, you know, oh, well, he's just another one of these explore guys.
Nope.
I mean, he went out there.
He knew what he was doing.
He had to get out there and do two jobs under the guys of only doing one.
Right.
And he did it.
Yeah.
So I mean, he's pretty impressive.
I wouldn't say most of the world can barely do one job.
So it'd be me.
Yeah.
I can do one.
Yeah.
You know, it's like the old, the old, uh, what's his name?
Ron Swanson from Parks and Recreation.
You know, he said, don't, don't half ass multiple things.
Whole ass one thing.
Yep.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And I actually used that, that saying it my previous job.
I'm like, yeah, I whole ass a lot of things here guys, but you'll know when I have that.
So here's, here's another interesting fact that adds some credence to the hauntings.
The Titanic site may hold human remains.
You know, we don't think about that.
We think about it being a desolate vessel and everybody came off the ship and died in some other way.
Well, it says another reason why some experts argue that the wreckage of the Titanic should be left alone is because the ship could be considered a final resting place and gravesite of the 1500 people who died.
Only 340 bodies were recovered with 1,160 remaining lost at sea.
And although no one has actually seen human remains at the wreckage, photographs released in 2010 show clothing and lace-up shoes and positions that suggest bodies once lay there.
It's also possible reports the New York Times that preserved corpses remain inside the ship itself where modern explorers can't see, but experts haven't come to a consensus on the issue.
So I would assume just in my humble weird opinion that the Titanic itself, if we had the ability to be down there more often, we would notice haunting activity there.
Yeah, I think so too.
Not just the artifacts, but right.
I think that it's very likely that there are human remains somewhere like the ship.
Right.
I mean, I think if they ever were able to get down there and fully explore the ship.
If they found nobody, that would be the weird thing to me.
You know, it's not weird that there were actually be the bodies of these victims still on board.
The weird thing would be is if there wasn't.
And you know, I realize it's, you know, it's been a really, really long time.
The sea is going to take its toll.
Sure.
But it's really cold too.
It's really cold, so it's going to slow that.
But you know, look, ocean life cleans up messes.
Crabbs, lobsters, anything like that.
You know, so anything that would be exposed to the living sea creatures, they're going to handle it.
I mean, that's just how nature works.
So coming in, you know, a hundred years later.
And with the expectation that you might find significant human remains.
I'd say that's very likely, but you could find the evidence that they were there.
You know, probably bones or something like that.
But the fact that it's all there would kind of lead you to think.
You know, the spirits of these folks may still be attached, you know, to this.
Yep, exactly.
So let's look at a few survivor stories real quick.
Now, Eliza Gladys, Dean, who everybody called Milvina for some reason.
I don't know the story.
It doesn't match any of our other names.
Have you noticed that when we're talking about people from the turn of the century,
you know, 1900, they've got nicknames that had nothing to do with their name.
And it wasn't like, oh, they got, we called him cheese.
You know, he was old cheese Johnson.
No, it wasn't like it was like, yeah, I guess name.
I guess name was Fred Thompson.
Yeah.
Everybody called him Gary.
Yeah.
Why?
You know, yeah, I mean, I could understand like you said,
if there was an attribute like he loved something nicknamed that or like I did with my buddy,
who is a giant human being, he, I mean, he could be part giant like we just talked about recently.
But I call him Shrek because he's big like an ogre.
And Milvina to me, I don't, maybe there's a story that we don't have.
It got to be.
But Milvina doesn't work.
But anyway, Milvina holds a special honor of having been both the youngest passenger on board the Titanic when it sank,
as well as the last living person to have survived the disaster.
So when the ship went down in April of 1912, she was just two months old.
So Dean and her family never intended to board the Titanic.
They had intentionally booked passage to the United States on another ship, but a strike forced them onto the luxury liner instead.
They were third class passengers and because they were immigrating to Kansas, everything they owned was in their luggage.
It was Dean's father who saved him.
He had been on deck at the time of the collision and he knew something went wrong.
He rushed to help his wife dress the children and get them on deck.
Quick thinking that put them at the front of a growing queue of people scrambling for lifeboats.
As third class passengers, they were at a disadvantage, but Dean, her brother and her mother got on board.
Dean's father never made it off the ship.
After that, there seemed little point going to Kansas, so the shattered family joined a number of other heartbroken Titanic survivors aboard the RMS Adriatic bound once more for England.
On that gloomy voyage, the young Dean became a minor celebrity.
She was a symbol of hope.
Other survivors were pleased to see that the baby had been saved and the crew took turns holding her.
Many took photographs with her that later appeared in newspapers.
So that's interesting.
Now Frederick Fleet, a British sailor, was just 25 years old when he signed on as a crewman on the Titanic.
He was one of the five lookouts on the ill-fated voyage and it was Fleet who made the famous call on the bridge iceberg right ahead.
At 10pm on the night of April 14th, he took the frigid crow's nest with his watch partner, a man named Reginald Lee.
The departing team warned them to look out for small bits of ice in the water, a difficult task on a moonless night.
At 11.39pm with just 20 minutes left in his shift, Fleet spotted an iceberg suddenly off the bow.
Panicked, he rang the bell and notified the bridge.
By the time his shift ended at midnight, people were already swarming to the lifeboats.
So he was ordered to row lifeboats six, the same one occupied by the unsinkable Molly Brown, who was another lady.
And I didn't bring up that she survived multiple ship sinkings.
And his group got to safety on the nearby RMS Carpathia.
So Fleet's reception on land was mixed.
Though he had spotted the iceberg, his role in the sinking became the subject of a number of inquiries.
The world wanted to know whether the disaster could have been avoided.
Fleet always insisted that he could have prevented it if he just had binoculars.
Something the Titanic's watch crew had asked for and been denied.
And we'll talk about that more here in just a minute.
But as he reached old age, he suffered from depression and ultimately committed suicide in 1965.
There were several cases of that.
Yep.
So one more survivor story here.
Charles Lighttroller.
As the lifeboats were launched, second officer Charles Lighttroller observed the quote,
women and children first rule so aggressively that he sometimes let lifeboats go into the water with empty seats rather than let any men occupy them.
But whatever people said about Lighttroller and the tragedies aftermath, they couldn't call him a hypocrite.
The second officer intended to go down with the ship and very nearly did.
He was on the Titanic as it slipped underwater.
At the bitter end, when there were no lifeboats left, feet below the surface, he was trapped against a grate when the ship's boiler exploded,
sending up a blast of air that carried him to the surface.
Afterward, he swam to an overturned collapsible boat where 30 or so people clung to life.
He joined them, showed them how to shift their weight to keep the big swells from sinking the ship and from swamping their small craft.
Together, they survived the night and Lighttroller was the last survivor to set foot on a rescue ship that reached them at dawn.
In the inquiries that followed the tragedy, it emerged that Lighttroller's lifeboat policy wasn't as hard-nosed as it seemed.
Doubting the strength of the lifeboats' davids, he intended to fill the remaining slots on the ship once they had safely reached the water line.
But the men assigned to the task drowned before they could open the lower doors, meaning some lifeboats sailed away with empty ships.
In the aftermath of the sinking, Lighttroller made a number of recommendations for better safety measures and tighter regulations that could prevent similar disasters in the future, and many of his suggestions are now maritime law.
Wow, that's pretty cool.
Yeah, oh yeah. I mean, you know that whole women and children first, it was a big deal, especially to these aged semen.
I mean, well, that sounded terrible.
Yep, I was about to make a joke and decided, even for Patreon, I shouldn't make an aged semen joke.
Right. So we're going to say, even for seasoned sailors.
Yeah, there you go. That works.
The Lord.
Man, quit saying it because I'm going to have to say my joke and I can't.
I just can't.
Just imagine a very naughty joke right here.
Yeah.
So I've got a few Titanic mysteries that I want to get into that Matt and I were discussing some of these before we turned on the mics.
Yeah.
There's some of these that I don't know if you know Matt.
I didn't know these prior to doing this research.
Some of the ones we talked about, I knew, but there's some interesting ones here.
So was it even the Titanic?
This is one that we talked about.
Everyone agrees that a luxury liner set sail on April 10th, 1912 and sank five days later, taking the lives of around 1500 of the 2223 people aboard.
But that's pretty much where the consensus ends.
Some insist the ship's that sank wasn't the Titanic, but rather the nearly identical RMS Olympic.
As the story goes, the Olympic had been damaged in an accident in the year before, but in order to score a bigger insurance payoff, the ship's common owners passed off the Olympic as the Titanic and then deliberately sank it.
While there are lots of holes in this Titanic theory, serial numbers found on parts of the ship that didn't sink actually support that theory.
Man.
Well, how freaking evil would you have to be to sink a ship purposefully with 2200 people on board?
Yeah.
You know, men, women and children, you know, crew and, you know, musicians, you name it.
Just to collect a bigger insurance check.
That's the only thing that kind of makes me go, I got that.
But you know, are people really that bad, you know, could you just literally decide a death warrant for that many people and nothing twice?
To think that they could be that evil.
But, you know, human kind history shows that there have been people that evil.
Yep.
Exactly.
So, and we'll get into that evil nature here again in a minute.
But did a fire actually seal the ship's fate?
A recent documentary offers credible evidence that the Titanic, let's, they say, let in this article, they say, let's just call it that for argument's sake.
Had been damaged by a coal fire, which had been raging for three weeks before the ship even set sail.
So the damage would have weakened the whole of the ship thus hastening the ship sinking when it collided with an iceberg.
So it was, it was already problematic.
Yeah.
There was a three week coal fire that had been burning and it damaged the interior structure of the ship.
My problem with that is they make it sound like it was still burning when it was sailing away.
How would you not see the smoke coming out of the ship?
You know, wouldn't that be something that it would even show up in video and pictures that we could see today?
But I don't know.
So another one is why was the captain speeding?
For decades, people believed that Captain Smith was speeding through the iceberg heavy waters of the North Atlantic because he wanted the Titanic to cross the Atlantic faster than her sister ship, the Olympic.
But in 2004, the Geological Society of America published an academic paper by engineer Robert H.
S and high with a different theory.
It claimed the real reason that the Titanic's captain was speeding was to burn coal as quickly as possible in order to control the coal fire that we just talked about.
How does that work?
I guess so that he's pulling coal from the coal that's burning and throwing it in the boilers.
Okay.
So it's getting used up in the boilers rather than burning the ship down.
And in order to do that faster, he was speeding through the thing.
Yeah.
The faster it goes, the faster he's burning up that coal.
Right.
Another one is did a torpedo sink the Titanic.
Most believe that the Titanic sank after hitting an iceberg on April 14th.
But not everyone.
Some think that the Titanic was torpedoed by a German U-boat.
This theory doesn't seem all that far-fetched considering that three years later in 1915, a German U-boat did sink a passenger ship, the Lusitania.
However, it's possible that torpedo theorists are confusing the Titanic with the Lusitania.
It's also possible that they're confusing the Titanic with the Olympic, which had sustained damage after colliding with the military vessel in 1911.
Still, the presence of several other ships in the vicinity of the Titanic sinking leaves the question open.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I could see where it's a possibility.
I think I like that theory more than it being the Olympic for the insurance money.
Yeah.
That's easier to deal with.
I think I can wrap my head around a U-boat sinking a cruise liner like that.
So, the next one is, was there even an iceberg assuming the Titanic didn't collide with it and wasn't torpedoed by another ship?
It's safe to believe that it hit an iceberg, right? Well, not necessarily.
Professional Mariner Captain L. M. Collins maintains that if a Titanic had hit an iceberg, it would have gone down in mere minutes.
Instead, Collins and his followers believe that the Titanic must have hit a hidden flow of pack ice that had made its way into the Atlantic from the Arctic Ocean.
Collins points out discrepancies and eyewitness accounts, which may actually be due to various natural optical illusions.
So, he's basically saying if it hit an iceberg, it would have just sunk.
But the way that it tore the side of it open seemed more like pack ice and not an iceberg.
Now, why you would hide that and say it was an iceberg, I have no idea.
Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Plus, I wouldn't be able to know what the difference is.
If you were looking at a ship's wreckage and saying, oh, this looks like it was caused by pack ice and not by an iceberg.
Well, how can you tell? It is damage. It seems like it hit something big made of ice.
And the ship that was supposed to be unsinkable sank.
And I guess what made it so unsinkable?
I mean, why did it just, it was reinforced or it was supposedly the interior of the ship was cordoned off into sections that had doors going between the sections.
So if one hole, say a hole got ripped in the side of it, like what happened?
Then theoretically, it would only fill up one chamber with water and not all the bottom of the ship and sink it.
So they could, yeah, so like, what kind of the way they designed it today?
You know, it's like you've got sections with those, the big heavy doors that you can close and turn the wheel.
I guess, but one of one of the theories is that those doors were left open and not closed.
So that's why it sank is because once it tore open with the doors open, it just filled the entire bottom instead of only one chamber.
And I mean, well, what if it filled up so quickly that they couldn't get the doors closed?
Well, they were supposed to sail with them closed.
Oh, like you weren't supposed to have them open at all.
Once you set sail, you closed all the under deck doors that were in the storage and they, and if you had to go through one,
you went through it, closed it behind you, then went to the, like you do in an aviary, you know, so the birds don't get out.
So I can see where that would be a pain in the butt.
You know, you're going back and forth between areas of the ship and you're having to constantly open up this sealed door, go through, close it, you know, do all that stuff.
It's taking you a lot longer, you know, I, I could see where somebody, a crew member might say, just any other than just leave us door open.
We're going to come through it 10 more times.
Yeah, exactly.
So we talked about the crew not having binoculars. Why?
Well, surely this says that the crew had binoculars they would have seen the danger in time to change course, but the Titanic's entire supply of binoculars was locked away in a storage compartment.
And a crew member who had been transferred off the ship just before it set sail had the key.
The crew member later claimed that he quote forgot to hand over the key, but did he forget or did he deliberately hold on to it?
And if so, was it to further the insurance fraud that we talked about or was it something else entirely?
Now, see that makes me think, okay, you're, you're, you're gambling here.
Um, if, if you think, if I don't give them access to binoculars, they're going to have a, they're going to sink, they're going to hit something in sync.
Uh-huh.
Well, that's kind of a crap shoot to me because it could have just as easily made it all the way.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm at all.
And so I don't, I can't, I can't imagine, you know, one individual going, yeah, I'm just going to hang on to this key.
You know, even if he had been approached or even paid by somebody, I just think that's, that'd be like, I'm going to, I'm going to put this, I'm going to put this thing right here in the hopes that somebody comes by and trips on it or sets it all or whatever.
Somebody playing a big foot prank out in the middle of nowhere.
Yeah, we talked about that, you know, a couple weeks ago.
You know, why, why would, why would, if this is a prank, why the heck are you out here in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere, just on the off chance that somebody was going to see you?
Yeah.
Yeah, that seems, it's interesting that that happened that they didn't have access to the binoculars.
It doesn't seem necessarily, you know, malevolent in nature to me.
There's more to sailing a ship than binoculars.
True.
I mean, so another one, and I'll wrap it up here in a second, but did JP Morgan plan the whole thing?
So some who believe the Titanic took the place of the damaged Olympic blame, uh, financiered JP Morgan, who was one of the owners of the company that owned both ships.
Morgan was one of the wealthiest people on the planet at the time and he wielded considerable power.
In addition, he was a last minute no show on the Titanic soul voyage.
Why did Morgan and his entire family not end up on the ship, then he know what was going to happen? Did he plan it?
Hmm.
Again, that just makes somebody out to be extraordinarily evil.
I mean, you know, I laugh because I just, I can't, I cannot get my head around somebody being that horrible.
Right. Well, my last one here that I'll do is people being that horrible.
So was it a murder plot?
Well, some people believe the sinking had nothing to do with insurance money, but rather that JP Morgan engineered the sinking to kill off his rivals.
Jacob Astor, Isidore Strauss and Benjamin Guggenheim, all of whom perished aboard.
But how did Morgan plan to pull it off? Well, neither the insurance theory nor the murder theory takes that into account.
What else would Morgan have needed to do in order to ensure his plan's success?
Yeah.
I mean, a lot of these, they're interesting to think about, but they're, they're hard to wrap your head around that.
Oh, he may have wanted to kill people.
So he sank a whole ship.
I mean, it's hard to believe.
It would seem like if that was your intent, you would have had to have done something to guarantee that they were going to have a problem.
And got hit on by a U-boat, maybe.
Yeah, something like that, you know, not rolling the dice and going, man, I really, I really hope they, they hit an iceberg and sink.
Because that would take care of my competition.
I mean, that's just kind of a, you know, if, if you're really that bad and you wanted your competition dead, you know, that's a, that's a big gamble to just, you know,
I hope it sinks.
Yeah, there's quicker ways that are guaranteed and wouldn't result in that much life lost.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I mean, I mean, I don't, I don't see that it could have been a murder plot.
I could see where it's interesting to talk about it because of all the high profile names involved.
Yeah.
So understanding that there is so much more to the sinking of the Titanic than just an ocean liner hitting an iceberg.
Let's get into some of the paranormal activity that has been associated with artifacts and, and even the, the staff and crew members of the Titanic.
Now, this is going to cover several different locations.
Okay, and you're, you know, I've tried to make it where you can kind of follow it, but just understand there was, there are permanent exhibits.
There are museums and there have been traveling exhibits that contain Titanic artifacts.
And that's just in the US.
Right.
So there are other, there are other museums and exhibits in Europe.
But we're just, we're going to focus on the ones in the US tonight.
So the first one we're going to talk about is the Titanic, the experience, which was a big exhibition that included some really strange and unexplainable events.
So, you know, this is one of these exhibits where they have anywhere from three to 400 artifacts taken from the ship parts of the ship.
You know, clothing from passengers, furniture, portraits, things like that.
A lot of people felt like during Titanic, the experience that the spirits of passengers and crew members were reaching out from the other side.
And, and some feel like it was just their minds playing tricks on them.
I mean, understand that the, the exhibit is designed to give you the impression that you were a passenger on the Titanic.
So there, there is some, some illusion to it.
Now, this, this comes from Carrie Drake, who was the general manager of Titanic, the experience.
And she says, I am a skeptic and encourage visitors of the Titanic, the experience to prove me wrong.
I have personally experienced odd encounters here at Titanic, the experience, which have no explanation.
It seems the ship and its former passengers and crew have a few more secrets left to reveal.
And again, that was Carrie Drake, who is one of the general managers of Titanic, the experience.
Joe Zimmer, who was an actor and exhibit manager, he talks about a heavy chain from the ship that was securely encased in one of the exhibits.
Now, during an interview, he pointed out that the bottom link of the chain was swinging.
And Zimmer claimed that the chain only moved when the staff were around it discussing paranormal events.
So, I mean, essentially, you've got something that is enclosed to where people can't touch it, so like a glass case.
And it just kind of starts moving on its own.
Yeah.
You're kind of looking at it going, hmm, what's making that thing move?
Yeah.
Now, we did a Titanic, I can't remember where it was, but me and Ashley and Michael did some kind of Titanic thing where you walk through and like you can see some artifacts and feel how cold the water is.
And I don't think I've ever told you this map, but there was a part where it's supposed to look like you're standing inside the windows and looking out onto the deck of the ship.
And then if you walk out, you're on the deck of the ship.
Right, yeah.
There was actual windows in between that.
We walked out, you know, looked out the windows, we walked out, we came back in, we looked and there were handprints on the window.
Yeah.
We're all talking about that.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Yeah.
I just like that all came into my memory when you were talking about the experience.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I remembered we did something like that and it freaked me out.
The one I went through, God, it was forever ago.
And I can't remember if it was, if it was at the Georgia Aquarium or if it was at the one in the Smoky Mountains that had a Titanic exhibit going on while we were there.
But yeah, we saw a lot of really cool stuff.
It wasn't like that.
What you're talking about was more like Titanic, the experience and more like what the exhibits that the museums have now.
Yeah.
Where you can actually walk out, they have, you know, rooms and models of the deck that you can actually get on.
I think it's the one in Branson.
They said it was, it's built to half scale.
Yeah.
You know, so you can really, really get a sense of what it was like to be on board the ship.
What was crazy to me is how cold the water was.
Oh, yeah.
They've got something chilled to that water temperature and like, dude, I'd die quick if I ended up in that water.
Oh, yeah.
Amanda would never make, you know, she can't get in our swimming pool.
If it's like, maybe it's only 86 degrees in here.
It's too cold.
I'm not getting in.
Yeah.
We went to the swimming pool at our gym Monday, in fact, to do some laps and get a little exercise.
It's indoors.
And I had to take like three to five minutes slowly walking down into the deeper water because it was cold.
Yeah.
And I'm like, what is wrong with me?
I can deal with 110 outside, but I get like a 80 degree, 75 degree pool water.
And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm dying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look, 75 degrees and you're surrounded by it touching you.
That's pretty doggo cold.
That's true.
Yeah.
That's true.
But Zimmer also claims that orbs have been captured on camera around the replica of the grand staircase
that travels with the exhibit.
Others report the sensation of hair standing up on their necks while in the room that houses the ship's telegraph.
Zimmer also says that while standing on the ship's deck, he saw the apparition of an officer in uniform.
Oddly enough, the officer was only visible from the waist up.
So it was essentially a torso apparition.
It had no legs.
That's weird.
At night, after the overhead music track had been turned off, Joe says he sometimes hears the sound of an orchestra playing.
He has heard his name called followed by spooky giggles, which I never, never, never call my name and then follow it up with spooky giggles.
That's no.
No.
No.
Don't even call me spooky giggles.
That's right.
That's your new nicknames.
But he also says that he has felt an invisible force tussle his hair and grab the back of his jacket.
So I mean, these are, these are things that we have heard from other people that work in museums that are, you know, supposedly on it.
Now Titanic, the artifact exhibition opened in the Luxor in Las Vegas, Nevada in 2008.
And it is, it is a permanent exhibit, I do believe.
You can still visit it.
I looked it up.
But some people there have had some pretty interesting experiences.
So much so that they include ghost tours on Saturdays in October.
Now this exhibit houses over 300 items from the sunken ship and essentially is ground zero for all of the unexplained phenomena.
Visitors and staff alike supposedly frequently feel frequently have strong feelings of being watched or followed as well as hearing disembodied voices or footsteps.
Sometimes they have the feeling of they're being poked or prodded or even pushed by unseen hands.
In addition to the sightings of shadowy apparitions lurking in the halls and corridors.
Now one of these tales tells the story of the lady in black.
Now the lady in black is often seen on the grand staircase crying out for her famous friend Margaret Brown, which is the unsinkable Molly Brown.
Yeah.
There was, there is a story about a photographer who was prepping for the opening of this exhibition at the Luxor.
And he saw a woman casually walking down the grand staircase.
Now he was kind of startled because he said he had not seen anyone walk in earlier and the staircase was roped off.
So he just assumed that she was a part of the exhibit, you know, one of the actors and asked if she'd like him to photograph her, but she ignored him.
So he went back to setting up his equipment.
Yeah, rude, rude ghost.
But he just, he went on about his business.
And suddenly he noticed that she was standing directly behind him.
So kind of startled.
He offered to take her photograph again, but this time instead of ignoring him, she vanished right before his eyes.
That's wild.
Yeah.
Now in addition to seeing a woman in period clothing on the stairs, employees have also heard the sound of children.
And they have reported the sound of an orchestra playing, you know, and that's, you know, the famous story about the orchestra playing near my God to thee, you know, as the ship went down.
Yeah.
Now Adam mentioned this gentleman earlier, Frederick, Frederick fleet.
Now, as Adam said, he was the Titanic's lookout.
But his ghost has been spotted watching over the exhibition's promenade deck, trying, supposedly trying to write his late sighting of the iceberg.
So, you know, fleet, fleets ghost, you know, he's sticking around there.
Now another passenger predicted the sinking of the Titanic when he wrote to a friend a few days before he perished in the North Atlantic.
He said, quote, right now, I wish the Titanic were lying at the bottom of the ocean.
All right, during a paranormal investigation of the exhibit, staff reported a story that occurred in the engine room.
Now, this is really, this is really a cool story, okay?
There was a picture of Bruce Ismay.
He was the chairman and managing director of White Star Line, which is the company that built the Titanic.
Right.
Now, this portrait of Ismay hangs on the wall in the engine room.
Now, Ismay was on board during the Titanic's maiden voyage and ended up surviving.
But once that, it's a three foot by two foot portrait.
That's a big portrait.
As they were coming in one morning to open the exhibit, the picture was on the floor, okay?
As if someone had taken it down and then leaned it up against the wall, sitting it down on the floor.
It wasn't like face down or smashed or anything else.
Yeah.
But it certainly didn't look like it had fallen.
Now, initially thinking that it somehow had fallen or one of the staff members was pulling a prank,
the staff went and reviewed the security video.
Because either way, you're kind of like, we got to know what happened, okay?
Yeah.
If one of our employees is pulling a prank, we want to know that that's all it is as a prank.
But we can't be having staff members taking these artifacts and messing with them.
Right.
I mean, don't be touching that stone, leave it.
The security camera footage showed a clear view of the room and no one was in it when the picture
started to move on its own and then slowly slid down the wall as if someone had grabbed it with both hands
and lowered it to the floor.
Thank you.
Just before hitting the floor, it turned on its side, then it slid a few inches according to people who saw the video.
Now, I looked, I couldn't find this video online.
I bet if you keep digging, you might could find it, but I didn't have any luck.
Right.
Now, this happened.
This story was related to a group of paranormal investigators just prior to starting their investigation.
Okay.
And this is at the Luxor in Las Vegas.
So they tell them this story and then lock them in the engine room.
Hey, have fun.
Good luck.
So as the ghost hunt started, the investigators were all alone in this room with this haunted portrait.
Suddenly, an alarm went off and light started flashing and the alarm on one of the glass display cases
near the picture of Bruce Ismay had been tripped.
Now, the displays are fitted with motion detector alarms that sound when the case is touched or disturbed.
And in this instance, the case had not been touched or disturbed.
You know, they weren't even over there.
They just heard the story about this picture coming off the wall.
And now they're locked in the engine room and one of the exhibits sits off the alarm and they're like, yeah, this is a great beginning to this investigation.
Yeah.
Erie, they're stoked or terrified.
Yeah.
Right.
There's no in between.
So, I mean, what could it possibly be?
I mean, are we talking about, you know, the spirits of passengers and crew that are somehow attached to these objects?
We don't know, but it's not limited to just, you know, the Titanic, the exhibition or the Titanic artifact exhibition in the Luxor in Vegas.
Ghost adventures actually went and did an investigation at the Titanic Museum in Branson, Missouri.
Now, during their stay, they caught a figure they assumed to be a child on their SLS camera.
If you remember, Adam and I, we've talked about this.
I think we did a Patreon on this piece of equipment.
It's like the old, what was it called?
Kinetic or something for the Xbox.
It was a connect.
Yeah.
It was a camera that you could put on your Xbox and it could, it would register your movement.
It would register your movements and as movements in the video game.
Now, paranormal investigators will use this camera because it will pick up a human form, okay?
Even even in the joints and like what?
Map the joints on the arms and with dots and everything.
So if you've never seen this, I think one of the, one of the Teslas has this too.
Maybe.
It has a front, front facing camera and on the display.
It looks like a stick figure with dots representing the joints.
In this particular video, what you see is kind of a triangular shaped body legs with dots for the hips and the knees and the feet.
Shoulders, elbows and hands and kind of a line with a dot that represents the head.
And you see this and the arms are out to the side and the guys from the, from Ghost Adventures thought that because of its size that it was potentially a child.
But it appeared to be trying to balance up on the railing of where they were, which was around the, the, the deck and the windows that Adam described.
You can fly, you can walk out to the deck or you can go back inside and there's windows that would give you a visual of what's going on on the deck and out on the water.
Now at one point, after watching this for a few minutes, the, the figure just seems to jump out the window is what it, what it looks like is just jumps out the window.
As they get closer and start examining this area, okay, they found fingerprints on the window, the figure seemed to jump through.
Now, they claimed that they knew for certain that the museum staff had cleaned all the windows prior to their lockdown.
And they felt like they had really collected a piece of significant evidence now.
That's interesting. Yeah. I mean, always take these shows no matter what they are with a grain of salt, but this, 100%, this was very interesting.
Because just because they said the museum staff cleaned it before their lockdown, there's no guarantee, but I, I, I would, I would almost, I would almost bet that, that actually happened that they actually cleaned it.
All those windows, because this would have been something that they did every day, if you had, you know, hundreds of tourists going through this exhibit in a day, somebody's going to touch something.
And there's going to be fingerprints. And if you, if you don't stay ahead of that stuff, it just gets awful.
So every day, I'm sure somebody went down and had a routine, had a little checklist that you got to clean the windows up on the deck.
And you got to wipe them down, wind decks, whatever. So my, my thought is, yeah, they probably were clean.
No idea where those fingerprints come from unless it was one of them that had done it.
No, it could have been one of them. It could have been missed. I mean, still, still pretty interesting though.
How many times have you cleaned the window and then went back and looked at it a minute later and went, good lord.
Every is that stinking time.
Yeah.
And you've already put up the rag and the wind deck and every time, every time I clean glass, that's what happens to me.
So moving now from Branson to Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, the Titanic is there.
Yeah.
And if you've ever been to Pigeon Forge in the last few years and seen this, it looks really cool from the highway as you're getting off I-40 and heading into Pigeon Forge.
To see this over on the side, you're like, holy cow, look at that.
Yeah, right.
So, yeah, the Titanic Museum in Pigeon Forge, they've captured some other experiences, let's say.
Now, during a special Friday the 13th Ghost Hunt, several strange things occurred that they were able to get on video.
And this was done by Adam and I have been on one of these weekends with this organization, this Ghost Hunt weekend.
Now, during one of those, can you turn the light on and off kind of sessions?
One team member was able to communicate with an entity that responded by turning the lights off on command.
And even weirder is that each time the spirit shut the light off, a scream could be heard in the dark and deck area of the exhibit.
It happens twice in the video that I saw.
There's so impressed with the fact that this one of the investigators is counting down, turn off the light.
I'm gonna count down from three and you turn off the light when I get to one.
And then he goes three, two, one, bam, the light goes off after he says one and then you hear the scream.
And they're all like, did you all just hear that scream?
And then it happens again within a few minutes.
And I mean, it was just, it's kind of weird.
You know, when you're watching a video, you can kind of see how surprised they are when they hear that.
Yeah, I would have been like, hey, it's time to leave.
Yeah, exactly. That would freak you out.
Yeah, here's screaming.
Yeah, remember, always be more afraid of the living than the dead.
Yeah, you hear a scream.
But later, that group is filming outside of an accordion-style gate, you know, those, the ones that slide back and forth.
And they're asking if there is a spirit present to knock and they would unlock and open the gate.
Nothing happened.
At least not that they noticed at the time.
Now, after reviewing the video, which in the video, they're in a smaller room, there's probably eight, nine people kind of gathered in there.
Okay, you can see the gate.
That's kind of where everything's focused, but then the camera pans across the group of investigators.
And you see this dark figure emerge from behind another person in the back of the room and begin to walk towards the door.
And I don't mean like it's one of those, oh, do you see it?
You see it? Look real close.
Okay, right here.
No, it is holy crap. What is that?
I mean, it is that clear.
You know, could something like that be faked?
Sure. But nobody in that room reacts to it, almost if they didn't, they didn't see it.
And they said they saw it later when they were looking at the video.
But it's definitely a figure.
Okay, it is, it's not a shadow.
It's, it is definitely a figure that, you know, you see a head, shoulders and looks like it's walking towards the door.
And those shadow figures like that are so creepy.
Like it, I mean, it's as bad as hearing the creepy giggles from another room.
Good old spooky giggles.
Spooky giggles, that's it.
Spooky giggles, balinger.
But seeing the, seeing the big shadow figure slowly move and that's, that'll make the hair stand up on the back of your neck.
It's, it's pretty interesting video.
Now, let's talk about some places that aren't necessarily directly connected to the Titanic,
but they are connected to people that died on the Titanic.
And so the first one is the Jane Hotel.
Now, when the US Senate inquiry inquiry was in New York for three days before moving to Washington DC,
approximately a hundred or more of the crew stayed at the Jane Street Hotel,
which at the time was known as the American Siemens Friend Society Sailors Home and Institute.
Imagine having to paint that on a sign.
Yeah, imagine having a business car with that on it.
The name takes up the whole front.
Mine was on the back.
Now, these guys, they were undoubtedly devastated at the tragic loss of their colleagues.
And perhaps some of them were close friends.
The building itself was designed by William A. Boring in the Gregorian, in the Georgian style,
and was constructed between 1906 and 1908.
Now, Boring, interestingly enough, was the same architect that designed the Ellis Island Immigration Station.
Okay. So, I mean, it's pretty well known figure.
Now, the crew members were given clothing, food, and a room to stay in once they arrived at the hotel.
And these guys were in bad shape.
I mean, this is like, we have just gotten back.
You know, we're going to have to answer some questions about what happened.
This is the crew, mind you.
So, they put them up in this hotel that was for sailors.
Like I said, they were in bad shape.
And they'd just been through this horrific ordeal.
The surviving crew members had a special memorial service at the Jane Hotel
to honor those who perished on that cold April 9th.
They sang nearer my god to thee with a quote, mighty roaring chorus.
And many of the crew still held out a glimmer of hope that by some miracle, there would be more survivors.
But that wasn't the case.
And even today, it's believed that the crew members have taken up residence in the halls of the old hotel.
Now, guests at stay at the hotel have reported that these survivors never left.
Now, the American Siemens Friends Society Sailors' Home and Institute
remained in the building until 1944 when it was replaced by the YMCA.
Now, during this time, the YMCA changed its name to the Jane West,
which was considered a hotel for those down on their luck.
During the 1980s, it was a hipster hotel.
For the Centennial anniversary of the building, it was renovated.
Hotel before it was cool to be a hotel.
That's right.
But eventually, it was turned into a luxury hotel and renamed the Jane.
Now, like the passengers, the surviving crew lost everything.
They weren't able to get anything off of the ship to take with them.
So all of their belongings that they had when they got on board went down.
But now they found themselves in New York City with nothing more than the clothes on their back.
And sadly, the memorial service, which was held to mourn the loss of the RMS Titanic,
her passengers and crew didn't rest those people's spirits.
There are reportedly cold spots all throughout the building.
Many guests have reported experiencing problems with the elevator
and claim that it will occasionally go up and down completely on its own.
While walking the halls, guests have reported witnessing transparent figures,
hearing sobbing and what is described as unfathomable grief.
The sounds are stated to come from the surviving crew members
who were mourning their lost colleagues,
while others who have heard these sounds claim it is the spirits of the crew that survived
and passengers who perished now have come to the Jane for their eternal rest.
While on the third floor of the Jane,
one guest saw an apparition of a figure in a white through a porthole on a door.
When the guest opened the door, the woman disappeared.
But as soon as the door was closed, the guests saw the ghostly figure once again.
So like I said, this was not directly connected to the Titanic,
but this was where those surviving crew members stayed.
This is where they were housed during the inquiry into what happened.
There was still a big interjean release or whatever at that place.
So yeah, you had, like I said, this was still fresh.
So you had the surviving crew members.
They're still mourning. They're still kind of in shot.
They had a memorial service for all those people that all their friends and colleagues that died.
So yeah, Adam's right.
A ton of energy pouring into this hotel just shortly after such a tragedy.
It would have lent itself to hanging on to some of those spirits.
Now, this one is my absolute favorite.
And this is about Captain Edward John Smith.
Now, Captain Smith was one of the victims when the Titanic sank.
Smith's last words are thought to have been,
be British, which is a reference to the stiff upper lip in the face of impossible adversity.
Smith's ghost has been seen in various places.
In fact, Smith's ghost is one of the most frequently encountered.
The first sighting of Captain Smith's ghost occurred before the world knew of the tragedy.
Captain Smith's wife Sarah Eleanor Smith was in her drawing room when the door opened.
She watched her husband walk across the carpet towards the window.
No doubt this was viewed as some surprise because he was supposed to be sailing across the Atlantic at the time.
Moreover, he neither looked at her nor spoke to her.
When he reached the window, Captain Smith simply disappeared.
It was way too early for the news of the Titanic disaster to have reached Smith's Smith, but she knew.
From the moment she saw his ghost, she knew.
That's crazy.
I know.
What a...
I mean, that's just one of those give you cold chill stories.
Yeah.
Yeah, I like that one.
That's wild.
But Mrs. Smith was not the only woman in Southampton to be experiencing such strange phenomena.
All over the city, wives of sailors and other crew members told tales of waking in the night
with nightmares or hearing their names called out.
There were a lot of men reaching out for their loved ones on April 15, 1912 as they sank to the bottom of the sea.
Jeez.
You know, imagine those voices, those cries of those dying men reaching their wives,
reaching their families and bringing them out of a dead sleep in some cases.
Yeah.
Pretty powerful.
Yeah, it is.
Now, another place where apparitions of Captain Smith have been witnessed is the Adelphi Hotel in Liverpool.
The hotel has a history of paranormal activity and was once referred to as the most haunted hotel in the United Kingdom,
due to the high number of unexplained events.
Now, the septent suite in the hotel, it is claimed, is an exact replica of the first class smoking room on board the liner.
One paranormal investigator and author claimed to have witnessed three men dressed as naval officers standing at the far end of the room.
The man believes the three men were Smith and two officers who were aboard during the liners won an only voyage.
And Captain Smith, if you've seen pictures of him, he looks like, well,
I'm trying to remember, but somebody, when I was a child, somebody had a little statuette of a sea captain,
and he had the gray, close cropped beard, real tight mustache, you know, that stern look, that's Captain Smith.
I mean, if you were going to say, draw me a picture of what you think that Captain of the Titanic look like,
or just draw me a picture of a sea captain. That's him.
I mean, he is very sea captain looking.
I mean, he has a very distinguished individual. He's got features.
So seeing his apparition, it's not hard if you can make out details that this is him.
When the guy who played him in James Cameron's movie looks very similar.
Oh, yeah.
So if you can only picture the James Cameron Captain Smith, that's very similar.
I think I'd say the real Captain Smith had a maybe a bigger mustache, a little bit.
It was more pronounced, but he did a good job in getting the resemblance.
Yeah, and Captain Smith ghost has also been seen at his former childhood home in Stoke on Trent Staffordshire.
Staffordshire for all my friends in the UK, which is in Central England.
Smith lived at the home until he went to sea at age 13.
His ghost has been seen in the bedroom drifting across the room by former residents.
The owner at the time of the Titanic Centennial stated that one of their tenants rang them up one day years before
to say that he was convinced he had witnessed Smith's ghost drift across the bedroom while he was in bed.
The previous owners experienced a flood in the kitchen and they said an icy chill was felt in the dining room.
Other former residents have said they felt a chill passing over them as cold as an iceberg.
Using some colorful language there.
In 1977, second officer Leonard Bishop of the SS Winter Haven was giving a tour to a man who he figured was a passenger.
The British man was very soft-spoken and extremely interested in every detail of the vessel, almost unusually so.
Bishop found the man to be a bit strange but not unpleasant.
Years later, when Bishop saw a photo of Captain Smith, he realized why the situation felt so strange.
Bishop exclaimed to a friend, I know him! I gave him a tour of my boat!
The friend laughed and informed Bishop that the man had been long dead. That man was Captain of the Titanic.
Oh wow.
Now, this is interesting too and I didn't get into the stuff that in Belfast but there is apparently a lot of activity in and around Belfast regarding the Titanic.
But this one was a sighting of Captain Smith's ghost in a pub in Belfast, Ireland in 2018.
That says Robinson's pub is full to the brim with Titanic memorabilia.
A young couple visiting the pub had a romantic picture taken of them when they felt something cold on their backs.
After the photo was snapped, they were horrified to discover a spooky face right behind them which apparently bears a striking resemblance to Captain Smith.
Yeah, pretty cool. He's sticking around.
I'm sure that a lot of the crew probably stuck around just due to the nature of what happened.
Yeah, absolutely.
But to wrap these ghost stories up, it's a call back to us talking about the likelihood that there are many, many corpses that are still inside the ship.
That no one has been able to get inside and try to recover remains. So it's a giant watery grave.
The wireless station at Cape Race reportedly received echoes of the distress call from the Titanic years later.
The QE2, while passing the rec site in February of 1978, strangely received the Titanic's distress call.
They allegedly received a distress call on an old wavelength with the words come quick into stress boiler rooms flooded ship is sinking.
The operator changed to a wavelength and replied, what is the name of your ship? The reply Titanic.
That's crazy. So they informed the captain on the bridge and the operator tried to contact the ship again, but to no avail.
When the incident was logged, it appeared that the Queen Elizabeth II's position was almost the same as the Titanic's when she began to sink all those years earlier.
Passengers, passenger and cargo ships passing over the rec site have reported strange orbs hovering above the water, hearing people shouting for help, an orchestra playing or the feeling of or sense of dread or unease.
Almost as if you were walking over a mass grave. I mean, let's be real.
And really, there are so many other stories. These were the ones that I felt like were the most interesting and gave you kind of a sense of how widespread this really is everywhere from the site of the wreckage itself.
Across the US and the UK, there have been reports of paranormal activity that is associated with the Titanic.
I don't know that we've ever covered any any kind of specific haunting that was this widespread.
I don't think so. That makes it a very unique story in and of itself.
But I mean, it's really easy to see how a tragedy like this and the number of lives lost could leave that negative energy that would hang on to those spirits that would replay that distress call.
You know, that you would, you would hear, hear those cries for help as you pass over the wreckage and the water.
You know, I mean, you just think about something that big happening.
And, you know, if you do what Adam and I do, you'd be like, yep, I bet that's on it.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I do that stuff all the time.
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Have you experienced anything?
Like I said, I'm sure there are plenty of stories that I left out.
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