Hey everybody, welcome to group chat. It's everyone's favorite type of episode. All three of us
in the studio. Yep. I would also say great combination. Not really any arguing this episode,
unfortunately. So if you're into the arguments, we're all pretty fun.
Well, I'm not in his just gone full magas. Yeah, I didn't really turn to corner. I don't know what
happened, but he he almost let some word slip out of his mouth that were very. Yeah, it's all because
I'm just saying he's very excited about Barbie. Yeah, he's very excited about Barbie. And he has,
you know, he's very Florida man when it comes to Disney. Yeah, that's not true. You know,
no, things are false. And you are excited about Barbie. I'm excited about Barbie. So that's not false.
So stop by. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So very peaceful episode, but good combo of.
Living peaceful on the intro. Never mind. You're gonna argue real quick. Good combo of news and
banter, I would say. Yeah. Great episode. I think you guys will love it. I'll give you all geared up
for the week ahead. You guys ready? Let's go and the boys have a boys have one coming. All right,
here we go. Ladies and gentlemen. Group shot.
All right. So we're opening up the episode with more beef beef with the boys. The boys.
The saga continues. The boys are hot. The boys are hot. And you know, I respect the boys, but
it doesn't sound like it. I want to like he on respects the boys. The boys don't respect
yes. I have no they don't respect me. Yeah. You know, the youth doesn't respect your elders
anymore. Yeah, that's true. They spit on them. So someone that will keep anonymous was throwing
a very cool party on Saturday night in Hollywood. Like a private party. Private party. Yeah. And
I was telling Javier all week. I was like, you know, the boy should pull up. I was like, I'm not
going to be able to pull up, but you should. Well, why don't you tell them even after they
shined you. Yeah, they're in it. Wow. No, it's one of the ones. Shame on you. Follow me twice.
Shame on you. The point is I'm trying to contribute to the boys. Like, you know, keep the boys
going. They need to expand from Venice. They can't just be in Venice. But I thought after last
weekend, you might want to like pump the brakes on the boys. No, I just want to show you my generosity.
Got it. So you're not a hater. You're not a hater. Like whatever you just me, you know,
three times a year. It's fine. Yep. I still want to, you know, support you and in your endeavors.
Yeah. So, uh, the boys pull up to this party in Hollywood. Yeah. A very exclusive party.
Is it like a nightlife venue or a private residence? No, it's a nightlife venue bar bar.
Yeah. Can we say the name or no? Poor Vue. What's that? It's in Hollywood. Oh, I have beef with
that place. Yeah, I know. You, you know, historical beef with the beef on today's.
That's two vegetarians. You guys have a lot of them. They have a lot of beef with that place.
My last experience at poor Vue was 17 years, 15 years ago, and DN Eric Deluxe tried to get no
fight with the bouncer. Cause you still have a dress code. Yeah, they had to wear the coat.
Yeah. I was like, what, what am I Steve Harvey? I'm not wearing this fucking suit.
That's like you, you maybe shouldn't start golfing then. Cause that's everywhere you go.
Ironically, uh, before you go to the boys, I was in New York and we had to go to costs.
We went to drinks for a Costa chip ryanine wearing t-shirts and a hat. Take my hat off.
And then they're like, you got to wear a blazer. You have a collar. And I was like,
all right, give me the ugliest suit you got there. Wait, they have the clothes for you, though.
Of course. That's pretty nice. Okay. So that act like people that left it or something?
What? Is it like the Lawson founder? Yeah. It's basically it's disgusting. Right? So I'm like,
give me the ugliest thing. That's worse than a t-shirt. Yes. Like what world do we live in?
Where that is not worse than this? It's funnier. So it's me and Michael Katz, we walk in,
we're wearing our blazers looking like fucking idiots. And I was like, whatever. It's, it's
so odd hour of the night and a week. Damn, I'm not going to run into anyone. As soon as I walk
to the bar, boom, I see Jay Luxe. He's, and he's wearing this stupid fucking blaser.
I know that blazer. He's like, come on. To the other guy's look like clowns. Yes, but clowns. Yeah.
So anyways, it's a hot party. Yeah. And it's 11, 15 last night. I'm about to go to sleep.
And he's on his way. The boys are on the way to the party. How many boys? Just one. One boy.
One boy. Two boys. Two boys. Two boys. Two boys. He was from Saudi and three of two boys.
Well, you were you with Harvard now? He was part of the organization. Yeah, you got an event.
And hosting committee. Got it. And so I texted them. I put them on thread and I was like, look,
I'm probably 10 minutes away from falling asleep. Yeah. Here's the contact. I want the boys to enjoy
the night. Good luck. Godspeed. Okay. Right. Hav gets in via our anonymous friend. Yeah.
Would you need the contact? Yes. Okay. Got it. Okay. And Sizzle was there. Benny Blanco,
Bronnie, Little Dickie, Kidler Roy. And the boy. And the boy. And the boy. Two boys. Two boys.
And got in without a. I think there's a little. I woke up to some text messages between our contact
and the boy. Yeah. But the fee that we got from the contact is he was very sweaty.
Very sweaty. He had a time in his life. And I don't think he slept last night.
He had breakfast. I texted him at 7.30 in the morning. I was like, did you get in?
And he's like, I haven't slept. I have practiced my parents right now. And he's not here.
He's not here. No, that's good. Okay. So what do you think is like the takeaway that?
The takeaways that I'm just like, you know, a philanthropic person. Yeah, you're man of the
people. Big charity guy. Yeah. I'm sure he likes the boy. A charity kiss. I think he might be.
Okay. I'm just like, hey, so you're making a wish foundation. He's the poor. He's the poor
minority that you're getting into parties. When I heard about this party. No, but when I heard
about this party, I wanted to tell the boy, Javier, you know, you don't experience things like
this. Yeah. I know what you do at waterfront and the Victoria. I took him to Coachella. He lost his
losses. Yeah. He got the taste of that. Yeah. Javier's been to Puff Daddy's house.
Say in the morning, he, he understands what the real boys can deliver. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So I want you might have done this a little bit to punk him.
He think. Yeah. I thought it's a flex. I think it's a flex. I thought it's like, by the way,
you're stupid little party that you wouldn't let me in. These are the type of parties. I go to sleep.
I don't even go to. I was tired. I think you flexed on him a little. You might do right.
So Javier is just going to flex into every hot party. Yeah. In the next week. He's going to keep
shining you. Yeah. Hey, man. Anything you want to prove? Yeah. The hot SB party. By the way,
SB's at Oscars. You know, babies are coming out. Yeah. Yeah. So they're going to uninterrupted
party. Damn it. That looked like quavo. Yeah. And then you also explored the the world of the boys.
I had an interesting call it six, seven hours of no wife and kids today. They went down to my
in-laws to go swimming and hang out with them. And because of timing and stuff I had to do,
like I couldn't go. So I was, they left the house at like 1115. And I was like, I wanted to go
for a run. And I was like, yeah, it's kind of hot out. I was like, I'm going to go to the
west. I'm going to the beach. Does it impromptu? I'm impromptu. And I text Ryan Tierney from
Locianto and Taylor from feet. And I was like, hey, you guys want to go for a run? Just Taylor
live down there now. Yeah. Okay. Got it. And I hit Taylor and them. And Taylor's like, yeah,
come meet me on Main Street. And so I meet him. And he ends up being busy. Brian and I go for a run.
Go through Venice, Santa Monica. It is, I mean, the weather it was cloudy or so goddamn crowded.
It was wild. It was really hard to run. Yeah. And then finally, I was like, you know what?
Let's go get I have two and a half hours. Give me Venice and two and a half hours. I mean,
that must feel like a a week long vacation at this one. I literally was like, I was walking on
Abbott Kenny with the, it was a three of us. I was like, man, I feel like I'm 26 years old right now.
Yeah. Just walking around carefree. Not care. What's the vibe? What? It's slamped. It is really the,
I mean, I feel bad for West Hollywood. West Hollywood has really fallen off. Yeah, I really actually
think club culture is kind of in LA. I agree. Declined. Not forget club culture. It's just,
no, but that's all West Hollywood. It's right. There's not used to be that. It used to be
something very different. What was the borne, uh, Santa Monica and Chris Nights that we used to hold in?
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was like, there was places you can go hang out and it was, uh,
unfortunately, West Hollywood and that whole neighborhood is very much like you have to be in the
know and you have to have money. And so it's great. If you know the people and you have money,
it's phenomenal. It's probably still the best place to hang out. I feel like the youth doesn't go
to clubs as much. When you go to, and then when I was in, in Venice, we went to Bells Beach House
and Grand Blanco and whatever, some other spot. It's like little hangs. It's just hangs. It's fun.
It's super casual. It's not like uptight and, you know, you could dress, you don't have to wear
a fucking blazer to go out. It felt like it felt like we're, we're all the young people we're
hanging. Yeah. And even the waterfront, we, it was like a line. Did you go to the waterfront?
No, I couldn't do that. But it was too crazy. But like, who's at the night clubs? Because they're
still packed. I think it's, uh, weed guys. We guys are the table buyers now. Lot, I mean, we know
every rich guy that was at the nightclub 20 years ago is still there. Well, I think there's one
rich guy. I know who you're talking about. It's one rich guy. And it's weed guys. No, it's the same
guys. If you used to be the crypto guys and the weed guys now, it's just the weed guys.
Yeah. It's the same rich guys from 20 years ago. I think he's kind of hinting at me being right.
Yes. I'm not denying there's a lot of weed guys. I think they're the ones buying the tables. I
think it's weed guys, rappers and athletes by, or at the clubs. Yeah. And then the young 25-year-old
like, uh, weird old name of brand. Give them my teeth. Give them my teeth. So we're still welcome.
No, but I don't think the 20, like when I was 25, it was fun to go to the club. I don't think the
25 year old today thinks it's fun to go to club. Yeah, I mean, you think about, you've just
been five grand. You're just like, it's not your vibe. You're just not going to do all these kids
are rich. It's, all these kids are like streaming and tick-tocking and only fanning. They have the
money. I just feel like they're like doing house parties and shit. Yeah. I think those kids definitely
call you with kids. Sure. But I think if you're just sure, if you're like a, a guy or a girl that
has a job, you're 25 years old, I think going to the West Side is probably more fun than going
anywhere in West Side. Well, just crazy because it's a total transition from when we were here
20, you know, 15, 20 years ago. Yeah. The West Side was like, oh, you're going to die there.
Now, it's like where it is. Yeah. Yeah. And like, it's totally different.
A demand of restaurants and coffee shops and just, I don't know, there's a lot of really cool
places that I mean, I don't, it's so far for me. So I'm never going there. Yeah. But today,
I got to like walk around like Abbott Kenny is so slammed. Really? Slammed. Yeah. So you think
Abbott Kenny is like the newer cooler West Hollywood. Yeah. Oh, it definitely is. There's no doubt.
Like every restaurant you were waiting for hours, there were so many lines of people just everywhere
waiting. And obviously it's the summer. So I assume it's a little bit more crowded.
Yeah. Even Main Street in Santa Monica was crowded. Just, they did a good job of just like
attracting like, and they, there's also decent places to eat. But they actually weathered the storm
because there was a massive homeless crime situation that was going on in Venice. Did they clean it up?
I don't know. You didn't clean it up. It's there. But I part kind of far from our last group chat
meetup. And I, I walked the luck, I walked with the luck to his car, then I walked all the way to
my car. And it was like pretty, I mean, obviously it was, yeah, they have to do anything up, but it was
a little sketch. Yeah. But that was midnight. So, you know, for the sake of the
little, despite the sketchiness that you don't care. Yeah. The youth doesn't care about sketchiness.
They just want to have a good time. Yeah. I think they're just used to it. There's raised in it. Yeah.
They're normal. You're raised in filth. They're way, they can get drunk. Yeah. But I mean, props to
them too, because it's not really like buy anything else. Like if you're in Venice, you're in Venice.
Yeah. It's, yeah. It's poppin' around. It's isolated. But what's interesting was, you know,
I was Ryan and Taylor, they were like, you can walk to this restaurant and then go to a bar and
blah, blah, blah. And there was a little bit of that in West Hollywood, you know, 10, 15 years ago.
But it's basically gone. And it's, you know, if you don't know the right person,
you can't get anywhere in West Hollywood. Yeah. It's just kind of, you know, kind of sucks.
And, and Abbot Kenny feels a little bit more, as long as you're willing to wait,
you can walk in. Yeah. We walked in the three places pretty easily.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're a full 20s 20s. I would say it's like, yeah, like a five hour
action packed. Yeah. Boom, boom, boom, back out. That's good. Yeah. I feel like I learned from golfing
how big a day off without the wife and kids is, you know, a lot of that on the course.
And I really didn't, I didn't understand. I appreciate it. Yeah.
And then on and what about your boy, your tennis?
Dennis. Your tennis guy. I got a tune into that. I know nothing about it. I talked about it on
right there. Yeah. There was a, I think it was probably the most anticipated match since probably like
Federer, Chokovic 2019 at Wimbledon. It was Chokovic versus Carlos Alcarez. So Carlos Alcarez is
and I'm one seed in the world. He's 20 years old. He has one grand slam. Chokovic has 24 grand
slams. How old is Chokovic? 36. And so there's a 16 year gap. And Chokovic has won the first two
grand slams of this year. So he's already won the Australian. Yeah. He's won the French. And then,
you know, he's playing Wimbledon. Yeah. And it was like just one of these like epic matches. So I
woke up pretty early because, you know, I wasn't with the boys last night. So I was able to wake up
and watch Wimbledon. And you know, I wake up at like 16, 16, 630. It's already five one Chokovic's
up. And I'm like, oh, this is over. Yeah. Like this guy's just going to roll over this 20 year old
Genzy Pussy. Yeah. And then he's a Spanish Spanish. That's why he came back and wept his ass.
And then, uh, so, you know, I was locked in. I'm texting in our threads and like, I have
she lost a bet. Yeah. Could you bet on Chokovic? Yeah. So I was so cocky about Chokovic. This
that, uh, but you were so big on, you know, I love Alcress, but you bailed. No, but my, you got cold
feet. Yeah. My point was that it's better against Genzy. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, Chokovic,
you should better get some American Genzy. Yeah. That's fine. You'll be very particular. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Maybe I was, I was a little off on that. So John and I, um, bet a Nobu lunch with the group.
So D Brian, Mikey, John, so this is gonna be expensive ones. Yeah. We like to, you know, expensive taste.
Did you lost one? You lost the last one of those. These lost so many. I don't even think he pays.
No, I don't, I don't, I don't pick. You don't have a wall. I just added. I swear.
I mean, I just, just minus 200. He's a heavy favorite. So it's a bad bet for John. Yeah.
But he bet, um, Alcress and what was so fascinating was the second set. There was a tie break.
And pretty much if Chokovic wins this tie break, it's 4-4. Yeah. You have like two points
and the match is over if Chokovic wins this. I think it was down 4-1 too. No, no, 3-1. Yeah.
Maybe. Yeah. But it was 4-4. Yeah. And it was basically like, this is not crunch time. It's
basically like, can you show up? Yeah. And he showed up and fucking beat Chokovic. It was fucking
crazy. 20-year-old kid, the whole, and the crowd flipped in the beginning. Everyone was saying,
no, VAC, no, VAC in the end. Everyone was like, he kept doing the ear thing, like our love,
scar love. It's like, it was crazy. And like, I have so much respect for this kid. He's 20 years old.
And, um, I lost the bet. I'll own the bet. Yeah. And, um, it's cool to see like,
I mean, dude, he's 20 years old. Like, how old's Dom?
5, 6, 15 years. Yeah. Can you imagine him being in Wimbledon? Yeah. It's going like the other way.
Last year, he won. Yeah. He won the US Open. He was open. Yeah. 19. Yeah.
Like, think about that. Yeah, I'm sure he didn't get many participations. There's probably a lot of
parents. There's a lot of parents that listen to this podcast, right? Like, you may have a 12-year-old.
Imagine eight years. Yeah. You're at Wimbledon. I can't imagine it. It's so wild.
What years old feels so young now? Yeah. 20 feels. Yeah. Insane. Yeah. And the poise he had,
and he was able to like, he, he, that's a smooth move. But you have to remember, like, I was
to, because he was like, the king of Spain was there. Yeah. Yeah. To watch. And Brad Pitt looks
incredible. What the hell is Brad Pitt doing? He just has the family. It's just, it's also like,
it's getting 60. Yeah. But he has a plastic surgery. He's Botox. You, you, you're just an idiot.
You think people just look like that? Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt was like the most impressive part of
the Wimbledon. Yeah. I looked at him and I was like, man, that is one good looking guy.
That's the winner. Because like, you see, like, what's the homie, the prince? What's his name?
Prince William. My god. He looks like he's 60. He, he looks like he's 60. He looks like George
Costanza. Yeah. You're the fucking prince. You're killing your billionaire. I agree. How can you not
buy hair? I think that's kind of the vibe though, right? What just looks like a schmuck. Yeah. They all look
like schmucks. No. Royal family. I think it's supposed to be fat. There's nothing. There's nothing,
there's nothing aspirational about Prince William. And then when I said, I'm over the dice over.
I think that was the signal that it was over. When I saw him, he's so ahead of his time,
he's like, you know what? I want to signal to everyone that this shit's a wrap. It's over.
My dad passes and I'm the king. I'm putting it in there. I mean, if you saw him as your king,
you'd be like, well, he's my king. Yeah. Yeah. King of what? He's over. He doesn't even believe it.
Yeah. He doesn't even believe he's a king. Yeah. It's a huge Jackman. I just Alba. Like,
it was a fun event to just kind of watch. It was good. It was fun. You know what else I saw? I just,
this wasn't on our news report. But actually, our mystery guest knows a lot about this too,
or our secret friend. I don't know why we made him the secret friend friend. Now he is.
I just watched a clip before I came over here that it was eight in Ross on a podcast,
talking about how just talking about, um, gallery, not endorsements. He, he will make more than
LeBron James this year. Oh my god. Because of his streaming deal with kick.
Like, by a lot says our mystery. He knows very intimately the deal structure,
which I think he said LeBron makes like 44 million a year or something. Yeah. He's like,
that's insane. So as we've talked about kids getting soft and sports and why would you want to go
to basketball practice? Yeah, we do. Better to be eight in Ross. You know what eight in Ross does
is just in case you guys aren't clear or maybe our listeners sits in front of a camera
and live streams. Just whatever comes to mind. Now he's an amazing entertainer. I'm not taking
anything away from him. But if you're a kid watching and you watch LeBron like breaking himself
and then you and he's obviously the biggest. And then you watch eight in Ross like shaving his head
on live and like, you know, like interviewing porn stars. You're like, okay, well, I know my dreams.
I, by the way, I've watched enough porn. So I have a pretty good sense. Yeah. I have a little
bit more insight. Yes. Yes. I'm telling you, that is why, like, why are you going to football practice?
Yeah. And maybe American Gen Z got it right. And the rest of the world, Gen Z are idiots.
Because August is going to kill you in Ross. Because August will never make more money or fame in
America than in Ross. Yes. And they were talking about another guy. I'm so out of the loop here,
but like, excuse me, who just they just announced the deal and he made like the same or more.
I don't either. He's another streamer.
Who makes like more than eight in gaming streamer. No, just porn.
That's why I'm trying to explain to you. They literally imagine if it's like, yo, fans,
every day at 10 a.m. I'm just going to turn this shit on and whatever the
foyer is them. That's all it is. It's the next version of reality. I want to know what that person is
living. Yeah. And they might game. They might come in and their friends prank. Yeah. Sometimes
are just watching like a new video that's going viral. They watch it in comment on it.
They watch a new music video. Yeah. They might interview a rapper, but they pretend like they just
kind of came into their like bedroom and they're doing it. Poor Carlos. This guy's going to have to
broke. Yeah. Carlos. I saw he made like $15 million only in the last couple years. And he's
going to have to be in a chamber. He's going to have to do. Yeah. Think about that. That's wild.
Yeah. And then let's let's on the pop culture note. You see the Drake interview with that girl,
Bobby? I, I, well, I saw the clips of it. I've only seen the clips. But that girl, as far as I know,
that girl just exploded on TikTok. Yeah. Very recent. The last month. Yes. I think she was big
on TikTok as like an influencer. Yeah. For like a little bit. Like a mommy feels like it was a
mommy thing. And she just started a podcast. Intentionally. Intentionally awkward.
Yes. Right. Yeah. Intentionally awkward. It's almost like a between two ferns sort of thing.
Yeah. Like her, unfortunately, I look, I think it's great. She's going to have a moment. It's not
sustainable because it's so ingenious of Drake to go on. Who has that stick? I know. It's
like Alphanaganess, right? That's what she is. Maybe she gets like a Netflix show where she has
this awkward character. I know. But it's, it's not, okay, cool. You get one show. I don't
know. I think I think I could show you a clip of Aiden Ross and you'd be like, this isn't
going to happen. No, I've seen it. I've watched Aiden Ross. I mean, I like his reaction when Tory
Lanes was freestyle. I was good enough for me. Yeah. Like you might be right. Here's my only
point that I think is crazy. Is Drake was like her fourth guest on a podcast. Yeah. It probably has
a very big agent. I'm sure. But I also think I think Drake just knows how to stay viral. Yeah.
He's like, oh, I'm going to go on. And he played into the awkwardness. Yeah. He knows
how to play. He also did the Caleb Presley thing. And that was great. And I think it probably
went really well. Like the Tiger clip. Did you see that? That's great. So good. I think his
feedback from the Caleb Presley thing was probably really good. And that's like another awkward thing.
Yeah. I think Drake just has this like unique talent where, you know, he's been in the game now
15 years. And he knows how to just basically, okay, I'm going to go reach out to this girl. Yeah.
I don't think it was vice versa. Drake's team probably reached out to her. I think so. I don't
even think that they would think Drake's team reached out to them. Yeah. And being like,
hey, Drake's willing to come on. But she literally had like one viral interview. Yeah. And that's
how quick that happened. Yeah. It's pretty awesome. It's good for her. She should make as much
of my. She's laying in bed and doing great. It's gonna make more money than Carlos. Literally.
I feel like we're just going to be watching people from other countries battle it out on fields
and in rings. Yeah. And we're going to be fucking dancing to get the Saudi bag. So Carlos gets
a. So he hears the one thing. I'll, I'll, I'll, we'll move on after this. Yep. The one difference
will be is which we haven't seen yet. So if you look at early internet kind of youth influencers
were like divine people. Yep. With the exception of Logan and Jake Paul has anyone else really.
Oh, not really. Okay. So let's assume they're the couple. But okay. But like they've
plenty of people made a living. Yes. But they're the biggest. They're gonna, they're gonna be
the only ones that have generational wealth. Yes. And not even just wealth. But I would tell you
that the biggest difference will be like if you are big on the internet. Unfortunately,
the internet is in and out, right? Like you are hot for a year. If you're lucky,
you're hot for two, three years, right? And then you're basically spit out because that's just how
the internet works. Yeah. If you still win an NBA title or a Wimbledon, you're kind of entrenched in
history forever. So you'll always be known with that. Like if you're. Yeah. But you like the money
goes away. It's sure. So the thing is. Your name is remembered. So the kind of what we have to know
now is so once eight in Ross is married with three kids, does he still have that earning power?
I don't know. We have to see depends on how he like transitions. Yeah. But it's just I don't know.
I don't think sports are very forgiving either. I mean, I can't name you any Olympic gold medalist.
Uh, like I think if you're training to be Olympic athlete, unfortunately, it's not not the way.
So you're talking about like the stars of. But those guys.
The rough life. Like unless you really made a lot of money, put a lot of it away. Yeah,
but who's to say any of these streamers are putting any money away? They're all going to be broke too.
I know. But when you make hundreds of millions, it's just a little easier.
There's Fred Van Fleet is making $49 million. Do you know who that is? Yeah. He's playing for the
rock. Fred Van 43. No, he just said 43. 43 million a year. Yeah. That's eight in Ross money.
Sounds like one of the members of the Eagles. I mean, I think uh, Jay Powell's work to do.
Okay. Well, speak of Jay Powell. Okay. Let's talk. Yeah. We're hot. We're all getting rich.
Let's get into to really big news. Basically, I think we have to take back everything we said about
Jay Powell. He was right all along the job. This landing really steered the ship. The landing
is as soft as ever. I've never felt so soft. I will say, um, like a baby. No, but here's where I'm
going to correct on the Jay Powell because yes, everything that's happened the last six months
has seemed to be right. Yeah. He should have started in the summer of 21. Yeah. When inflation
was 5% and in December, the party going a little longer. It was fine. It's like, I know what to do
here. Yeah. And in December of 21, he said inflation was transitory. So he's wrong twice.
Doesn't matter. Now he's right. Yeah. Now he's right. It's what you know that the economy. I
think what I think what we're experiencing is that we've underestimated the power of the American
consumer. We're pigs. We like to underestimate pigness. Yeah. So we can buy our way out of anything.
Yeah. You give us Jimmy checks. Could zoom. Yeah. So I mean, I mean, I think all
signs point to the economy is going to be fine. You have pockets, you know, commercial real estate,
yeah, uh, regional banks, fucked, totally fucked. Yeah. Uh, average person fine,
exact opposite of 2008 where the average person was fucked and commercial real estate was on fire
because it's zero interest rates. Can I ask you one question? A lot of people are talking about like,
yes, but like there's also been still a lot of weird free money in the system,
such as, um, actually credits. So, so here eviction moratorium. So there's eviction moratorium.
Student loan payments have not re-kicked back in, we're supposed to come in September,
but Biden snuck in a quick 40 billion on Friday. So I don't hope that happens. We'll say like,
you know, sleepy Joe has a lot of wins under his boat. I'll tell you, I'll give you where I think
Sleepy Joe has one. You can, you can make fun of his like, you're calling him sleeping,
you're calling him. You're just president. You're just president. Sleepy Joe has a lot of
wins. You're all back among Joe and so back back back in the day. You have to say, Mr. President.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now you're like, Sleepy Joe. Yeah. You don't mind that is a Donald Trump nickname.
Yeah. I have to choose a friggin' man. Good guy. My point is the economy is fine.
Unemployment's great. Yeah. What about all those things?
So, so, so. An inflation reduction act like we talked on last pod like it worked.
It worked. Look at it. Reduced inflation. So, so I think the. Sleepy.
You didn't even know any of this happened. No, I don't know what.
Flesh. What? I think though the key things that we have to watch out for is a lot of companies
have received starting to receive their ERC credits. That's the employment retention credits.
That is that's going to go into the economy for the next year.
And it's a lot of money. Billions of dollars that are coming into into into companies. Then
we have to see what happens to the student loan. If the student loan thing
is completely removed, then we have free cash. If not, they're saying about 5% of the average
person's salary is being removed out of the economy to repay a student loan. So that's one thing.
Then I think lastly is if inflation actually goes down, then people have our money.
If it actually, it's still like, even though everyone's celebrating last week, it's really,
really high still. It's not sustainable. It's not it's bad. It's bad for the economy. So what
is the trigger that's going to truly drop prices? Because none of these prices are sustainable
long-term based on wage growth. It's just not it's not going to work out. So I think
there just feels like a little bit of still some danger in the water. There's definitely a lot of
danger. And by the way, all of those looming things and just I don't know, it doesn't feel like.
There's a lot of cash in the economy that's not earned still. Like we've always said, what this
feels like right now is all the money on the sidelines is starting to feel safe to deploy it
into the markets. Sure. There's just all that other stuff of like we said,
of extra moratoriums and ERC, all this stuff that I just it feels a little dangerous still to me.
Like, yeah, what if there's still a little make-believe in the market and people are actually
going to run out of cash? We've talked about credit being at an all-time high. We've talked
about all these things that just fell trouble for the consumer. The consumer has been strong
up until today, but there might still be like we might be at the tail end of fantasy land a little
bit. Yeah, but I think fantasy, so like the ERC thing is going to take one year to deploy.
Yeah. Because I was talking to R. It's exposed to it. So anybody that had five or more
employees during 2020 or 2021, like five W2 employees, which is basically like a lot of
fucking businesses. The only small businesses that had five or more employees, you're entitled
to this credit. The credit deadline is passing. It's happening. So if you don't do it soon and
you're fucked, but like the fact that it's there and it's like basically free money,
like we're we got our first small check for one of the companies and we were like,
whoa, it's real. Yeah. And we're owed so much money. It's going to come in the next 12 months.
So it's like, all right. So you guys obviously both talk to a lot of big box retailers. What's
the sentiment? It's soft. Yeah. So then how do we reconcile what we're? That's my question.
But this stock market is operating. No, let's work it. Okay, wait a minute. The consumer. Yeah,
the consumer is strong. So consumer is strong in different segments. You're talking about
discretionary retail spend. That's that is soft. Yes. But if you look at
hospitality, you look at other categories of the business, people are expecting a record back
to school record. So that's big box retail. Yeah. So I think in August, I talked to a retail
the other day, they said early back to school is very strong. Back to school technically starts
right now. Yeah. I think a lot of people could also be scared because they've been hearing the
words inflation and doom and gloom and recession for the last year. So that could be it. Or I just
think that there's a chance. I think it's if I had to guess, I'm obviously the furthest thing from
an expert here. I think there's a 30% chance that this is the moment when we're actually like,
there was real danger with the consumer that we we thought it was over and we thought we were all
good, but the consumer was kind of propped up by all of these artificial things and it collapsed
in that time period. The only change is I didn't understand that. Can you explain that?
I think that there's a chance that this just feels to me like the moment where we're at the end
of the fake money and the stimulus and like I said, the rent and the eviction and all that
stuff. And because I'm hearing also in other areas that the consumer is softer than usual,
not devastatingly, nothing insane, but just soft. And I think that there's a chance that like
the party is actually over like at the end of this year and there is an actual like consumer
spending issue. Whereas to me, the stock market thing. Yeah, the stock market is very different
because the stock market is literally singularly defined by the interest rates.
It just doesn't make sense to me why the consumer. They're completely disassociated. Agreed.
So we agree on that. Yeah, it doesn't make sense to me why the consumer has been so strong
this whole time. It doesn't add up. And then when you look at all of these things that have
still been a little bit of fantasy land, it just feels like, oh, is that the thing? Is there
something we don't see that when all of this actually kicks back in discretionary spending
just flattens for a year? Right. It just feels a little dangerous. It doesn't feel like we're
totally out of that. Yeah. By the way, the market said 30% chance in my so I guess I don't think
it's coming for sure, but I think it feels a little dangerous. Yeah. And then the problem is is
prime day happened last week and it was record. Yeah. It was up 6%, which doesn't make any sense.
Makes no sense. People shouldn't be spending. I don't know why people are spending. And there's
no one at Disneyland. That's a whole different issue. What's the issue on it? What's the issue
on it? Did you watch the interview? So Bob Eiger did an interview with David Fager. This is important.
This guy's Bob Eiger. Bob Eiger. I'll go after Hollywood. I mean, their business is broken and
the writers and directors and actors are like, it's more than a bunch. It's a brand problem, I think.
Hey, you sort of went there yourself. You went there. That's a different problem. We said,
what's the problem? That's the problem. What's going to Bob Eiger was on. It was very stunning.
You said consumers are soft, right? They don't want to go to different moratorium. They're traveling.
I was in on my way back from New York on Thursday. I spent the day in Salt Lake City, Utah.
I mean, how should even flight was that for work? Did you tell me terrible? No, no, I had a meeting.
Oh my god. Can you describe how bad that flight was? Cause Javier told me you were flying. I was like,
that's got to be the worst flight. Obviously was not flat bed. Yeah, obviously. That's what I said.
And you probably went really early, six AM flight. And you're just sitting up straight, sitting up straight,
like dozing off. And then I had like this person behind me that was like, could not
figure out how to work the TV. And they're just tapping on it the whole time. So you can feel
you're yeah. And so like I'm not one of those persons that go to say anything like whatever,
you're a dummy. It's fine. Ironically on my flight from Salt Lake to LA, the guy next to me
could not figure it out. Cause you know, the average person on a Salt Lake flight is like 120. So
average age. So this person is literally like tapping, tapping, the guy gets a you didn't stop that.
I was like, whoa, I was like, yeah, it's like, yeah, the guy was like, just sat there and
just looked at the back of his face. Just a minute. You tell them more than anyone I know.
Salt Lake City is the most slam imported America. It's a Delta hub. It's a hub. I mean, I'm telling you,
I could not fucking walk through the goddamn terminal. I haven't been, but just give me the
dynamic of travelers. Are they happier now? You travel more than anyone I know.
Uh, it doesn't still feel dangerous. Remember when flying felt like you were like in a UFC match?
Yeah, exactly. I, I would say a few months ago, it was a lot more like people were a lot more
edge on edge. Here's like the tip. So like a lot of our team is traveling this week. Like people
are going on vacations, people are going to New York for work. And like the flights are getting
canceled. And you know, there's some weather issues in New York. Yeah. Here's like the, the,
the hack that no one wants to do because it's miserable, but it's the safest way to travel. Yeah.
Take a red eye or the first flight. The planes there it'll leave on time. Yeah.
As long as there's not a weather issue. All these, no one's fighting on red eyes either. What?
No one's fighting on red eyes. Yeah, you're so tired. Yeah. You're just like,
you're gonna be ready to get to fight. Yeah, those 2pm. Yeah, exactly. It's like 3pm. Look it up.
You've been at the bar versus 11. You're ready to fuck someone up as you tap that menu screen.
Exactly. And so I think I think what happens is it's like those flights obviously are coming from
other cities. And there's a weather. There's obviously pilot shortages. There's people shortages.
There's these airports are so busy. It's so easy to get a delay that turns into a cancellation.
That turns into a nightmare. And I hear all day, oh my god, this is looking nightmare. Yeah.
But no one wants to take the 6am out of Newark. Yeah, because it's fucking sucks. That's absolutely
right. Yeah, it's miserable. I did not sleep the night before and I went to the airport.
Hey, right. It's the same thing. It's Salt Lake. Yeah. It's still a lot of masks on planes or
how's that looking? Depends on where you go. There's always there's always one one idiot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then just putting the mask down while they're eating. It's just like funny.
I know. It's ridiculous. And you just keep it on the whole time. Yeah. Even at the LAFC game,
there was a guy behind me full on mask. Oh, my drive here. There was a woman beside me in her
car alone. Definitely was not an Uber double mask. Windows up. I will say I've run in the neighborhood
where you guys know I live. Yeah. And they dart when I'm on the sidewalk running. Really?
That's a real cautious crowd. The wokey. Is it the wokey? Do you guys want to talk about
Disneyland or not? Yeah, let's talk about it. We've talked about like you don't go against the
mouse. Disneyland record numbers. So what's interesting is a big article in Wall Street Journal that
came out that traffic sound. The traffic is down at Disney World, which is in Orlando, which is
in Florida. Yeah. That makes a little bit more sense. They're a little more anti. Yeah. And so
Bob Iger that are really it's a really good interview if you're in and then if you're
interested with David Faber from CNBC. And you know, it was like a long interview and they talked
about all kinds of things, which we should touch on all of it. But he talked about is it
is it because of political reasons like, you know, foot traffic is down. I actually didn't see
this response. And he said that we got the benefit of the early pandemic because we were open
the whole time. And we we had record numbers in 2020, 2021. And as other things have opened,
there's just more choice. And so his response was that's a good CEO answer. Great answer. He's like
as a as as we see it is that there's just more optionality. But we still are up from a pretty
high base. And we feel really good about where we are right now. I would say that I think it would
be pretty difficult to say that Disney World itself is down because it's woke or whatever. Like I
think that that line of thinking for me, I think globally, it's still like so in desire.
If they're down, it's probably it is that people have other options to go to other places.
And by the way, it's just too expensive. It's not it's not a cheap weekend.
I would say woke has to play a small role. I think I do say plays in movies. I honestly think
their move every one of their movies has not hit their projection. And I think 100%
says that people are like, you came out of the pandemic, you know, your family of four or five,
whatever, you blow your wad. You hadn't been to Disneyland for like three years. And your kids
are now three, four and they can enjoy it. And you were like, I wish I could have done this before.
Yeah. You already did that. You already blow. You already spent the money. So now you're like,
do I need to do it again? I mean, so that's my point is I actually think the movie industry
for Disney is being I actually do think they are getting hurt by the woke stuff.
I think it's all a piece, especially after what I saw with what we saw with Bud Light. It's like,
I think people are so fed up. If you get if you catch a wave, you're fucked. And the
way same wave is happening with threads right now, you know, they had really this is what happened.
And I'm literally watching it get Bud Lighted right now on Friday.
There's like Thursday, yeah, meta threads Thursday. It's nothing to a woke or anything like that.
Oh, you just mean like, yeah, like they said that there was a 50% decrease in time usage
of active users, active users are down 20%. And I bet you now it's down 50%. And what happens is
the mob starts posting that. And then you're just like, I saw it and be like, yeah, fuck threads.
I'm not going on anymore. Yeah. Literally, because I saw some random person and subconsciously,
you just don't go on something. It's like a high school. I mean, that's what you said happened
in high school. Yeah. Oh, so and so. Everyone hates, everyone hates Joe. I will say like Disney
is not Bud Light. I don't think it's go woke go broke. That's not it. It's not it. For what,
Disney? I think the movies are suffering because of it. I think it's just a piece. I think that like,
if I think they're just taking a lot of ails right now. I think a lot of people went early.
That's totally true. I think movies are down that hurts momentum. I think the woke thing doesn't
help you. Like, I don't think there's increased traffic because of the woke. Yeah, sure. That's fun.
And I think it's all just they're just in a slump. And who knows what old Bob J Peck did? I mean,
that guy was the head of parks. Yeah. And he became CEO Bob Eiger forced him out. So maybe the
park guy fumbled the parks. And then you think Bob Eiger went on talking about streaming and he wants
to shut down the cable. The cable was he's double downing on streaming. He thinks it could be
profitable. He thinks it can make it work. And I think he is he's he he in this interview said he's
up for selling off ESPN. Wow. He's up for like he was up for anything. He didn't say no to anything.
So Bob Eiger, he's he's in his 70s, right? He's obviously super rich and he came back for a reason.
His reason is unclear because you came into a complete shit storm. It's ego. What do you mean?
It's unclear. No, but okay, you think you're the savior, right? Of course. Yeah. And I think the
the deck is stacked against him. Yeah. So what's he going to do? Sell ESPN, which is the obvious
answer. So I'll just be into a private equity company and make, you know, free up. I actually don't
think I don't think streaming works, though. I actually don't think he sells ESPN. I think he's
saying that just to he knows sports is you just give up NFL rights. It's just stupid. I also do it.
So you also got to keep in mind everything he's saying is like placating the shareholders. Yeah,
like we're open to anything. Yeah, nothing's off the table. I think he learned from Zuck. Zuck,
just what do you do? Just cut costs and stock tripled. He got six pack, too. He also started
whooping out here. Can I give you? Can I give you if you put him in there with Israel out of
Syria, oh, Bob Eiger. Stocks. Here's what I think I think what's happening is in in terms of the
the woke shift. I'm really curious to see how Barbie does. I think Barbie's going to break every
record. His. Oh, yeah. I already have tickets. What? No, it's Margot Robbie and Brian.
So you're saying will it be a testament to not being political? Yes. I think you just have to put
out the best possible. I'm just put out really good looking people. Yes. By the way,
it still works. That. It's funny. He's like look who. Oh, oh, shocker. Taylor strips the biggest
tour of all time. I mean, it's pretty obvious what works. I mean, look what you remember from Wimbledon.
You're not. What? Yeah. I said, look what you remember from Wimbledon. Yeah, Brad Pitt.
God damn it. You look good. I'm just saying that like people are trying really hard to be like,
oh, we got to we have to touch everything and we have to figure everything out. Just be
fucking amazing. And you will get money. It's because Disney at the end of the day, like
there's only responsibility really is to make money. Look, is there only responsibility? I know,
but they're not there. I know about like staff and political pressure and social. That's wrong.
That's wrong for management. Your job as a publicly traded company is to provide for your
shareholders and provide profits. Okay. So, but that's you're not a philanthropic company. I know,
but that's where everyone. I know America doesn't got the pleasure of that.
They thought it was a profitable way to do that. I think I think it's a combination of both.
I think they thought it would be like a hardcore capitalist. Like I believe companies should do
whatever. So you want a white little mermaid. If it makes more money, if the white man
mermaid makes more money, I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not like this. The
wokeness for these these companies was because they thought it would make more profit.
Or do you think they say that again? Okay. So when Disney, you know, they obviously had a
meeting and said, hey, you know, there's a lot of stuff. They thought that would be a
social off-rest. They thought that would be more profitable endeavor. So what's funny is is
I agree. It's so the new Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs like live action, whatever
player, whatever came out. And they had like a preview of like the cast. And you know,
it's like multicultural like men, women, everything, whatever. I'm reading the comments.
I think goes, man, that's fucked up. That's this is ableist. And I was like, what? I kept reading
the things. It's like, why didn't you hire? I don't know what the political term is for people that
are not tall. Yeah. But those people are being left out. Yeah. You can never win. It's
all winable. It's unwinnable. Yeah. So it's like, Disney goes out of the way to cast this multicultural
thing. Don't just hire the best possible talent you can get. Because here's the new reason it's
all winable. Even if you get everything right, then you're Bud Light. Yeah. No. So you can't. That's
why and Bud Let's King. Don't check it. It's gonna be funny. It's like a person tall person.
Barbie, like you just said, it's Ryan Gosling and Margot Robbie. Yes. They're like the most beautiful
people in the world. That's why I think the movie's gonna close. That'll be the test. And that's
what I actually love about Dreamhouse. Well, I just did tickets three weeks ago. I couldn't get
it. I pick. Yeah. I'm telling you, I think this movie is so, it's so important to see just how
we just want white good looking people. We'll see. If it works, I mean, Bob Hiker's be like,
all right, throw the white people at Brad Pitt. You need to get your ass back in there. Get that
money. It could change a lot. I do think because if it's only about money, which we know it should
be, and they're very good looking people. Yes. I saw people say Margot Robbie's mid. I was like,
and then someone posted someone said that. Yes. I mean, you got it. Twitter went about Margot Robbie's
mid. And then is I think Andrew Tate or is his brother Tristan Tate? Tristan Tate said, fine,
if you think Margot Robbie's mid, show me a picture of your wife. Love it. It's a great. It's a great
but back to the Barbie conversation. So you're seeing this like, forget that they're white. They're
good looking people, right? They're the best looking of their race. They're all representative.
I know, but here's my next train of thought. We have made such a shift. You know, the alpha male
has been kind of looked down upon for a while now. Everybody is it? No, I think you think it is
on Twitter because Rogan would tell you it's the opposite because he's the biggest and he's
alpha male as it gets. No, no, but but I would say that. Yeah, but it's so we fake think alpha
males down, but who's the biggest way that we say who's the biggest platform? It's Rogan. He's the
most alpha male. No, but my point put Rogan aside, I'm talking about in every day culture,
we're trying to we're trying to like change the narrative that, you know, males should be this,
males should be that. Mark Zuckerberg is out with the six pack beating ass and now he's a
fucking hero. You know, there's probably like a Slack channel at Facebook that's like, yes,
dissuaded that from happening. Yeah, I'm sure that they're I mean, it sort of became like a
sign of like being a white supremacist if you go to the gym. Like that was like a thing that
started bubbling on the internet. Yeah. What what? Yes, there is like, there's a sentiment on the
internet that going to the gym is sort of like a, you know, it lumped in with like the white
supremacist right wing, you know, storm the capital. Those are the people that go to the gym.
Like it became negative. So my what I'm saying is with how woke all of those companies are like,
we know what the stories of yeah, of course, Shopify and Coinbase and all this stuff that's happened.
I'm sure there was a Slack channel that was like this fucking bro. Oh, just another white dude
getting buff like I'm sure he had to go against some sentiment that was 100% and I take six pack over
it. Yeah. And I think you're seeing this like we I think Barbie is really culturally really important.
I want to see what happens. No, it's record. I couldn't get a ticket a month ago. I know I know I
know it's going to be a record. I just want the numbers to come out to prove the fact that like
all people care about is give us your best. Yeah, give us your best. Whatever it is.
That's all we've ever cared about. Yeah. So why why do we like make if you're not the best you're
not going to get fucking casted or you're not going to be. Yeah. And I know people want to say like
Oh, I'm under a bridge. No, but at the same time, like I don't I think we kept getting bumped off
of our news stories, which would probably get us canceled, you know, a year ago. But you know,
there's all these new regulations with like the Oscars and stuff of your crew. Yeah. And so like
that's also happening. Yeah. At the same time, you know, it's like really interesting. That's
like a pretty. Let me tell you based on the new nomination expectations, Barbie will not be
getting nominated for shit. They can't. They can't. They can't say that this is your
need your best actor, best actor. Just to prove a point they have. They're not getting that
Reynolds. What? Gosling. Gosling. Whatever. I think you need to be canceled. Yeah. I should
be good looking white guys. You just think they're all the same. You know, it's been tough. And
hopefully Barbie is our revival. But you know, you know, for white people, Barbie is your moment.
You guys are back. We'll see. I think Barbie brings white people back on another level. I wonder if
there's is there. There's got to be outrage about Barbie, right? Online. You know, they're marketing
is so inclusive. Yeah. They're fucking crushing marketing because they're going to all the like
women and of all kind of races. They're doing an incredible job at marketing. So for now,
you can like manipulate the outrage. Because if your smile is too beautiful white people,
you should be pissed. Yes. You should be like to skinny, beautiful white people. And
Margot Robbie is not even from here. And there's trade as far as we know. Yeah. Two sys. Yeah.
White. I mean, this is everything. It's like old school Hollywood. This is like the Frank Sinatra
years. I mostly have a run. Like do you think that, you know, everything always swings? Yeah.
Do you think we have like an American exceptionalism swing? I think this Barbie movie. This Barbie movie
if I was in the story, I think Top Gun started it a year ago. That's fair. Oh yeah, they do deserve
some credit. Yeah. Top Gun was just white, ripped, beautiful people. And maybe that sort of subconsciously
got the ball. Well, it proved that like you give us exactly what we want and we'll watch it.
It's sort of like the butterfly. Like if there's no top gun, does this happen to bud light?
Yeah. I don't think so. Yeah. I think that started it. I don't think whoever the creators of
Barbie are have the confidence to do Barbie with Gosling and Margot Robbie for top gun.
Well, I'll be sure that movie was casted a long time. I'm sure. But like, I wonder if Ryan
Gosling like over the last few years was like, fuck, I'm done. No, I think he's I wonder if they
had those thoughts. Did Margot Robbie be like, damn, being skinny blonde and white? It's just like,
I'm out. I do, but I'm sure their teams have had those conversations with them. At the high
levels, be like, I think they're saying something here. I think they're dire air against MLBs.
Yeah. Absolutely. I think they're going to be winning for a long time.
The good-looking white folk. I got it. Got it. I think I'm not going to like, I think good-looking
people in general will always win. I'll be honest. I think that it's and this is not just
good-looking people. I don't think I'm not even suggesting that Barbie is bringing back just white
people. I just think that like Bob Eiger needs to look at the cast of his next fucking movie and
be like, yo, is everybody good looking? Yeah. Because we're not taking no fucking risk anymore.
I want to see the next excellent. Why? If you're in the movie business, why wouldn't you just cast
good-looking people? Because you can't. You can't. You can't. You're scared. Because of your people.
You're not going to fucking. And your mob. Yeah. Yeah. I think that you're scared to. Yeah. I think
Barbie. It's like what's very bright. Do you want some fat Indians on the Lakers? Actually not.
Yeah, exactly. I just said I want to look at people in my movies. Yes. So you don't want
to be Indians in my movies. If you hate me, you'd have one fat Indian on it. Every day.
This is a diversity. Yeah. Every would suck to be like, oh god. I'm the worst guy in the
pot. I'm the worst guy in the pot. I'm the only one that goes to the movies. I'm a good-looking
people when I watch a movie. I want one fat Indian that has to play at least two quarters on
India. That's a mandate. You know, because India is basically the next China where like everyone's
going to be like, if you could get an Indian person on your team, it's good for business.
Oh, yeah. Like the kid from the Blue Jays. Yeah. Arjun. Arjun. He's gone viral. He's the
traffic. Yeah, the traffic. 17-year-old, by the way, the 17-year-old kid. He's got drafted by
the 200 Blue Jays first round the major league. Did not respond to my DM and I have more followers
than he does. Maybe he'll come around. 90 more probably. Let's see. Yeah, we need to get it
updated. By the way, he might come around. By the way, he looks like Indian people don't look
like him. He's a buff. He's huge. Like a big kid. I will never forget when that, that dude's
pack of standing, right? They got really ripped the actor. Oh, shit. He has way more followers now.
That's why. You know what I'm talking about? The guy, the comedian, the guy, super ripped and
we've talked about it all these times. The big sick guy. What's his name? Camel. Yeah, Camel.
Camel. Camel. What's his last name? I don't even know. I don't know. But I'll just never,
anytime I think. I don't want good looking white people. Is that Camel on the fucking?
Yeah. Yeah, good looking people are back. We can't believe this guy didn't respond to me.
I mean, who are you? You're nobody new. You were a little too late. I know. I know. You should have hit
him up before the draft. Yeah. If you were to hit him up like three months ago, you're his best
buddy today. Yeah. I mean, I just jumped on the banglack. You're just another chicken as DMs.
You're another Indian in his DMs. Yeah. Camel and Indian girls are in his DMs right now.
Yeah. Archon. What's good? I live in Toronto or I know Drake is the answer. I can get him
to a lot more important people than whoever's in his. Okay. We see what you did with the boys,
but he doesn't know that. He doesn't know that. He should've got early. No, he blew it. He did not.
I don't think so. He blew it. I think he's going to be fine. He's the first round draft pick.
You know, he's going to get to the show. You got to get to the show, bro. He'll be at the show.
Yeah. All right. Let's move on. Okay. What do we got? What do we want to do? I mean,
I want to talk about tipflation because it really bothers me. This is right up your alley. Yeah.
So why don't you just go ahead and take it because, you know, we have talked on this pot a lot and
you have led the charge about your outrage in tipping. And I'll be honest, I'll give you credit here.
You were early on this. You were like four or five years ago. I brought this up. Yeah. I think one
day we all went to coffee and you brought it up. There was on the machine. You know, they kind of
flip the machine around and give you like a, you know, a look. Like am I getting paid today or
not? It's up to you. And you were outraged. And I feel like when you did it, it felt a little,
you know, you were a little early. Yeah. It was a little like, I don't know, D. Not such a big deal.
Now it feels like most businesses that are like, you know, service businesses are, they're paying
their employees with tips. Yeah. Sorry. You're running a fucking slavery business. Why do I have to
keep tipping everyone? That's how I feel about DoorDash and Postbait. Yeah. I pay them more.
And then like auto tip board business shutdown. I don't want, I want delivery to end. You know what,
I hate is I'm supposed to be done. You have to choose your tip before, like when you press order.
Yeah. So the irony is of tips is to ensure proper service is the
that's wrong. But what we've been accustomed to is you tip after the service has been
first and then gets the work done. I agree. I think it's the day they ever hate it. So there's
an article on CNT. Did you see that fucking guy in Florida that he delivered a pizza? Did you
guys see this? It went viral. No. He delivered a pizza to some like person's house that was fancy
or like whatever expensive. And on an $18 pizza, she tipped five bucks, which is a lot way too much.
Way too much. And he goes for this fancy house, this is all you're typing me and he like gave
her a sass and just like fuck off. It's all recorded on a ring camera when viral on Twitter.
Yeah. Okay. So is it over? So here's the interesting thing. It's insane.
It's five bucks on an $18 pizza. Yeah. The article is talking about five times. It's okay not to
tip. So I was curious. I wanted to see the first one is fucking nuts. It says as a blanket rule,
you do not need to tip anyone who earns a salary or performs a trade. That means what literally
listen to this. That means you don't have to tip doctors, lawyers, teachers. What the fuck
is going on? Are people like as a doctor being like, sorry, you have a fucking colon cancer.
Here's a tip. Can you imagine? There's like a lie like you sign and then like plus. How was your
boot job? Yeah. I mean, this is just nuts. People think. And then so then they said counter service.
As a rule, anyone working on a counter is earning a wage while those delivering food either at your
table or to your home rely on tips is a major part of their income. So anyone at a counter,
that means the coffee shop, which is not what's happening. The way the way they push you just
answered that last question. Yeah. No bitch. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to do this. So do can servers
and stuff or delivery people make under minimum wage? Is that legal? Yeah. I think waiters in certain
no, they don't make under minimum wage. Waiters in certain cities make under minimum wage. I don't
think that's right. It's a hundred percent ratio. So this says they earn a salary. Isn't that all
of those people as well? No, waiters. Weirdly in certain states have crazy. Really? Yes, a hundred
percent. When I talked about this tips thing four years ago, I got DMs from people in Alabama and
Kentucky telling me what their minimum wage is for waiters. It's like $3 or $5 an hour or whatever
crazy. But no, no, no. But in LA, by this list, we don't have to tip anyone in LA in the counter.
No, but everyone earns a salary. No, but they're saying the if you deliver your if you're a
waiter, you might be earning minimum wage with the hopes that you get tips. So let's get to do
on this list. Open bar events. If you go to an open bar event, you're not you're not obligated to
tip. Oh, that's funny. That's that would be like the most likely I am because because the host is
already paying you paying that. No, we know that. But the bartender kind of weirdly looks at you
like you should be and they put the jar out. Very tacky. Why should the bar chart tacky? We've all
been at events that we all paid for. We know the tips are already included. So we were just at an
open bar event together. I didn't have any cash. I mean, and I felt terrible. I did. I felt great.
I walked away and I like get me a double. Yeah, yeah. I totally get it. But I was like, I thought
that there was sort of like a, I don't know, maybe you pay like a flat rate and the bartenders
are relying on tips at those events. I don't know. So got me. So when you're talking about the event,
we were you're talking about 100% the tip was a good. Yes. I felt bad. Yes. I'm a sucker. Yeah.
Don't worry. Rice that paid the tip. Yeah. Rice that paid the tip. Our four bucks wasn't
adding incremental. So the next one is double tipping. You don't have to tip twice for the same
service. So this is an interesting thing. So when you go to like, so their example is when you go
to a nail salon, the woman does your nails and often people pay a cash tip right there to the
nail technician. Then when you go to check out and actually pay the bill, there's always a tab
for more tip. That is ridiculous. Yes. That's crazy. And the last one was poor service. You don't
have to tip for poor service. Well, no, actually, you do have to tip for poor service. You do.
Because if you don't tip for poor service, they come and yell at you on postmates. I don't
believe there's a zero option or do you have to go in some sort of it to actually put zero.
I do zero sometimes. My bill is high. I just it's too much. They probably put their balls
all in your food, but it's after the they don't know. The next meal. If you get like, I've been waiting
for the whole day. I have a wash my balls. Ball is life. I mean, food is offensively expensive.
I mean, you have to be a billionaire to eat. We, I mean, every restaurant I go to, it's just
mind boggling. We ordered food for our kids yesterday at our house. Like, it was absurd. It
was too shitty pizza. It's like this big. Yeah, like the size of my hand was like 65 bucks.
And it was a pasta salad. I brought 125 bucks. Yeah, plus tip. Yeah, that's good living.
I didn't I don't think I tapped. Yeah, it's just gotten crazy. I mean, I went to a dinner on
Friday, um, cover city, like a known restaurant. Don't need to out it. And I looked at the
prices. I was like, this is ridiculous. You're in Culver City. You can't be charging like $30 for
on trays, $35. What's the on tray? Anything. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I'm sorry, if you're in
Culver City, you got to cut those prices. I agree. I totally agree. It the worst is like when you
go to Europe and you're at like one of the hot, hot spots, a crudite fucking bullshit is 150
years. Yeah. Yeah, it's yeah. But I mean, do you think the tip thing ever like this feels like,
it's going the way of the Barbie. It's coming back. Do you think it's these little fucking bullshit
screens, you know, they can flip around like it's postmates. It's like, I feel like it's part of
this new wave of technology. I think what we have to do as a podcast, we need to create a movement,
to go to square and all these toast and all these people like when you when you get now they
they do the automatic tip, it's already 20% of forget that they now do the like in Europe where they
bring the register to you, like the mobile register. And you're checking out in front of them.
The options are 18 20 or 25%. Those are your options. Yeah. That's also crazy. Like you used to just
on the receipt, you'd be like, I want to tip eight percent. Yeah. That's fine. Now you have like,
yeah, you want fucking really high. They're sitting there watching you. Yeah. They're literally watching
you. Yeah. And you know, they're taking the device back right after and see. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.
Or not. Like you didn't tip enough. So what do we do? I mean, I think I think if we believe in
a free market, the best thing we can do, I think if everyone like go back to cable, go back to
just signing bills and try people in movies. Make America great again. Oh, it's coming around.
I'm getting back. He's on the fence. Sometimes you can get you watch that Barney movie. He's like,
you know what? Yeah. He's going to be an iPad, like just America. It was sold out. Where are you going?
Western Regency. Oh, God. You're opening weekend. Yeah. Wow.
So I'm doing Openheimer and our Oppenheimer and Barbie. Are you doing the double
pension? No, not double. Two different days. That's next weekend.
Next Sunday, I'll have a full recap on what's really a full weekend of American exceptionalism.
The nuke and pretty white people. That's when white people were really thriving when the nuke was
invented. Yeah. What else do we want to talk about anything else? We got to talk about
she and because we talk about it all the time. Yeah. And we have to talk about, you know, what's your status?
We're fighting. I just got a page from... Does Dino? D doesn't know.
I don't know. She and has a, we're not really strangers game. Here's one from Israel.
I didn't get the she and but it's she and oh my God. Like they just, it's the game. Yeah.
It's the couples game. It's the whatever. It's just all fake. So it's the, the Rico is justified.
Yeah. And I want like, can I help out? Can I put my name on a list?
From what I understand is like a scary term, right? Oh, yeah. Because yeah.
Basically on this, this week, they've already built a case against you. It's not like
here's our like, oh, we think you're, you know, maybe we can build a case. It's like we have
looked into your organized crime. We've built a case and come with us.
And so how do you do that? So, so, so he, here's, here's like the kind of back story of it. So she
and basically, I think to our, to our US government credit, they have clearly been paying attention
to this business because we know how slow these motherfuckers move. The US government. That means this,
this probably got brought to their attention last year. They're like, hey, this company is causing
a problem. And they're just waiting till they have the data to do that. Well, they're very conservative
in terms of like, they got to get all the pieces right before they make a move. And I think like,
we talked about, so people listen to this podcast know that if you ship goes directly from China to
America to consumers, anything under $800 has no duty, no taxes, no nothing. That's the loophole
that they've been able to scale with. I was talking to a friend of mine who is a competitor of
theirs in a major way. And he said, do you, I like, why are you lobbying? Why are you doing anything?
And he's like, you know, Amazon benefits from that. There's a lot of Chinese sellers that sell
on Amazon directly to US consumers. So Amazon does not want that to go away. So he's like, that's,
he's like, in my opinion, that's never going to get changed. I was like, man, damn, they're kind of
untouchable. This was two weeks ago. Yeah. They get hit with this Rico. Basically, the amount of
trademark and copyright infringements they have done in the last five years is so staggering
that it actually constitutes as a racketeering charge. And I mean, historically, we know Rico was
done against like the Gambino crime family. Yeah, like the half, what's it? The half of him? No,
that's Jimmy Hoffa was. All the old, all the old Mafia also. Yeah, young dog. Yeah, young dog.
Big gun. Yeah. Yeah. But that is the most song in the country though. So you see, like, you see
the, the, the, the length of which they're looking to stop this company is pretty crazy. And I can't
you just like, I guess stop doing it. Like what? No, no, I don't, you can't. But it's just, I don't
know. I think the way that we, my frustration that I'm trying to get out that there's no way to actually,
I don't think do it is like, we just let them waltz in here and do whatever they want. And they
don't let us do that. Yeah. And there's not like, oh, well, this statute. I'll give you a hot
take. She and his toast toast. I think they're fucked. I hope you're right. But it's just
weird to me that we just, they shouldn't be able to operate tomorrow. I think they're going to
go to court. And I think they should have shut down operations. If you're the, you're the
worst government, right? You're right. We're, we're, we're, we love due process and all these
things. But we are, we are where we're China. I know, but that's how security viewed at.
It's not viewed as China. It doesn't let Facebook and Google. But that's it. I'm just telling you,
but do processes for Americans. We know that. Yeah. We've seen what happened to the,
they're probably not even a Chinese entity.
I bet you they're not. It got to be right. But bet you that. I mean,
I just wish that we would shut it down and say that we have checked out and she and and
all these companies exist. I think she's going to, I think she is going to get
really taken to the cleaners here. I know what would be surprised if they're banned in America.
I hope so. But why isn't it not overnight? Yeah. Because it, it, it is deactivate the US. You just
can't sell in the US until we figure this out. Yeah. You don't have to go by the normal.
There's no like legal right. Who's suing? There's a homeland security issue. US,
what's US going to say? There are political ramifications for doing that.
You think there's some lobbyist that is like a she in insider that has the
ear of McCarthy saying like, hey, you can't ban she in. No, I'm not saying you can't ban she in.
I think you have to give them the process immediately. I give you an example of something that we've
tried to pull off that we can't is there's way more way, way, way, neither than she in is the
fentanyl problem. Yeah. And China sort of turns the other cheek whether they're in cooots and it's
all part of a plan because they know they're sending it to America and that's doing damage to America.
But one of the things that we push for politically is for China to crack down on the fentanyl
suppliers more harshly and they don't. But that's fake. What? That's, that's just to placate the
American public. They're not doing anything. But why wouldn't you stop fentanyl if you're
going to stop she in? Why wouldn't you say crack down? I don't know. Why don't we go to the moon?
We didn't go to the moon. Exactly. So why won't we stop at the top the other day?
I'm starting to get convinced. But you know what I'm saying like what I'm saying here is if you're
not going to like there's nothing that the US should be more serious about. It's just a power is
that B that's just how it works. But then why would they punish she in is what I'm saying? Because
I think it's clothes and it's stupid. So it doesn't matter. You get a win. Why they wouldn't.
Yeah. I'm saying if you say why wouldn't you put a TikTok? I still don't go because it's no one in
the government's like hey, we need to ban this ace up. Let's just shut it off till we know what's
going on. We know what's going on. I think that's pretty much what we do with lockdowns. COVID,
right? Here's my answer. We shut down the country and be like, hey, let's figure out what's
going on. And then we can I have a really easy answer that I think is the case is that they don't
understand it fully. They don't understand how detrimental it is. And it's bad for voting. I
actually think too many people like TikTok. I don't think so. No, I think it is. I don't think it's
bad for voting. I think that they think it is. Whether it is or it isn't, I think that is the fear.
If I'm the person who took away our beloved TikTok, that's going to be bad for my real life.
Like the bad for voting. It's two million fifty to six-year-old people in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,
Pennsylvania, Florida, Michigan and Wisconsin. I don't think they care about TikTok.
I think they have more power than you think. I think that look, I'm not making the case of if it
is or isn't bad for voting. I think that's the reason why they don't do anything about it. I think
they don't fully understand it. And I actually think they're scared that it's bad for voting. I think
they understand it. I know we think they're morons and I agree they are morons. It's just
ever since some of those congressional questions. But I mean, the Rico and Jean is kind of genius.
It's a genius way to take them out. I think that I'm still waiting to see if if that's just
another fake to play Kate. I don't know. Historically, when you hit a Rico, you got,
but doesn't Rico mean anything in China other than a random name? So, but it may give the power
to allow to block the IP address. I mean, the founder is not even China.
We'll see. It's all over the place. These people are in China. I actually don't think this
is even a Chinese entity. I don't believe it is. I'll just look. I bet you it's Singaporean.
If something happens here, I will be so surprised and pumped and American exceptionalism is back.
I think Barbie can make this Rico go through. Can you imagine the fake Barbie that's on
Xi'an right now? There's so many fake Barbies. Well, I mean, if you're going to do that,
you should you should really ban Timo and Xi'an same time. Ben and Boat. What about TikTok?
TikTok. You should absolutely ban. I'm wondering why TikTok should be banned. I just think people
love it too much. It's like banning Disneyland. I agree with you. That's why I think that's the point.
I think they sit around in their offices. I think TikTok is so like popular. Yeah. Like the
senator that wants to ban and his kids are like, Dad, if you ban TikTok. You fucked me on this shit.
I'm running away with America and I'm having sex with my boyfriend. You can't stop me.
I think that's the case. I think they're scared of the voters. Yeah. I think when you see the numbers,
you're like, they're like, they're going to be like, Fuck America loves TikTok. Yeah. I think it's
stupid though. We should do. I did too. But this will be really, I mean, I like our views on TikTok.
We're getting one of the good views. Oh, yeah. Well, it's about to be gone. No, you just said it's not.
It's not gone. I actually don't think TikTok. If you had to vote, we'll say by the end of next year,
is she in ceased operations in the US? I think she is. This is what I only say thing.
Assuming they have two arms and two legs, a leg on an arm has been chopped off.
You don't know exactly what that means, but it's been hobbled. Yeah.
And I think if they fuck around and keep doing trademark and copyright infringements,
they're going to get decimated and they cannot control that because they leave a lot of their
merchandising to the manufacturers that make their product and they're not policing it.
They don't have the things, the systems in place to police it. So I think it does inherently hurt them.
Just wild that like it's that. Blank and blatant. Well, go on all the express.
If we're going to do this, go after Alibaba, go after team move, go after all of them and just clean
it up. That's what makes me feel like they won't. But maybe this will be the, make an example of
yeah. Well, that'd be really good for a few American businesses that we know very well.
And that'll be a big day. I talked to one of those American businesses and he was like,
I think I want to do a 40% discount on code Rico. Yes. He's good at that. He's good at those
discount codes with the key moments. Is that it? That's it. I gotta go to sleep. Okay.
These are finally in town for a night. So we're going to let them get some sleep.
We'll do a question on the next one. Let's do it. All right guys, thank you for listening.
Have a great week. Take care.