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I have a proposition, fellas. I figure maybe we could have just a group meeting. Maybe it makes the pod. Maybe we cut it out. Okay. I would like to... What do you call it when you sort of sit around in whatever proposition? I don't think we should do intros anymore. Okay. All the great pods, you just press play and bam, you're in it. I think intros are outdated. Okay. What do you think? Fuck intros. What do we care? I was listening to a Mr. Beast interview the other day. And he talks about all the pointless things that people still do in movies. They still do the title scenes at the beginning. They do stuff at the beginning. They do written by. Here we come. Blah, blah, blah. That's our retention. Everyone's just dropping off the moment you do that. Obviously you're stuck in a movie theater. If we're thinking retention, I think people just hit play and here we are. So I agree with that. I think... I'm open to... In the context of a movie, no fence to the people in the creative industry. No one gives a shit who wrote, produced, directed, anything. You just want to be entertained. Maybe at the end, I'm more intrigued at the end if I like something. Man, the music was so good. Who did it? Oh, that actor was incredible. Who is that person? There's no way you're waiting for that. He's on the plane. He's had a few cocktails. He's like, who are those hookers? Yeah, there's this chance I might care at that point. When you hang out with people who think they're like movie buffs to the movie, they're like, oh, I was directed by Christopher. But I was like, no, no one knows who fucking directed anything. Like zero people know a directed. So I agree with that. The one thing on the podcast tip, the one thing I think we don't do well, is basically, no, but if you're a new listener and you start with us from the beginning, you have no idea who we are. Yeah. You're just like... I don't think like... For example, there's a lot of people who think this is my profession. Yeah. People come and say, oh, what is he? He used to do the pod, right? And I was like, well, it makes so money. So that would be tough. But I think like social media... I'm just thinking about all the pods that I listen to and no one does intros. And I don't think that our intro adds any value. I don't think anyone says, man, do I want to listen to this episode? I don't know. Let me hear this. I've got an average half hearted intro. Yeah. Fucking chose that. I mean, Joe Roach is the biggest podcaster in the world. He just said, let's go. Yeah. And he plays the music first. We could play the music first. Yeah. So the music can only go. Or if it comes up, like, maybe an auto plays after someone what they're listening to. And then you hear the music. I don't even want the music. All right. All right. I think we see what people say. But I just think that in this age of podcasting, people want to get right into it. Like, when I read a book, I don't read the fucking glossary. Yeah. Essentially what we're doing is like giving a half hearted glossary. Like, well, we're talking about the hurricane. And we got a lot of news. You guys ready? Like, it's just kind of silly. That's, it's a great point. Let's see what people say. It might help our retention. And then I do think the, I empathize with that issue. But I guess that's what like social media, I don't know. Yeah. You got to figure it out. I guess if we don't know the way off. Yeah. Because what the last thing we want to do is like an intro that's like, D founder of Ghost Formally, you're looking at it on a brilliant investor. Yeah. I agree. I agree. I think it's tough because I don't want to re-ash our history every episode. I think that's stupid. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. Like, I, I was at a birthday the other day and then I ran to someone, maybe a week ago, this is the plot. But they didn't even know how to deny our brothers. Seriously? Really? They thought you were two buddies. Yeah. Because like, if you just listen to it on TikTok and then occasionally listen to that episode, you have no idea. That's true. That's funny. That's funny. People I know, like, that I know very well that, like, like, like, Koreans friends. Like, that's how well. So, like, they know really well, not my best friend, but you do. Yeah. And they listen to us on audio only. They've told me before that they can't tell, like, they mix us up. Well, let me tell you how you're not to mix me up. I'm not woke. Yeah. He's asleep. I mean, he's asleep. He's asleep. I'm sleeping. I'm sleeping. I'm sleeping. Well, let me say this. If we were going to add our resumes to the intro, one thing that we would all have to add as of today is storm chasers because we are reporting live from the eye of the state of hurricane Hillary. Not only that, we had a quake, a hurricane, I believe they're calling it online. And I want to say props to Anand. D&I are both recording from home. Anand is in that old-ass building over on Wilshire. I don't know if I trust that thing to hold up. Wait. Me and are you holding it down? Yeah. I'm good on that dosing. I don't know about that building in a quake, man. I don't know if I trust it. So, I mean, here we are where, you know, this is as bad as it's been all day is right now. So that's great. Yeah. Great time to talk about it. And then we got hit with Earthquake in the middle of it. So I think the, look, ultimately, it was not a hurricane that hit L.A. I think maybe Bob Peninsula was very different. So, you know, I'll reserve my opinion, Evan. I don't know the facts on that. I was in L.A. It was not a hurricane. It was heavy rains. The one thing I think the purpose that was served that they actually did a good job on is I think inherently your average person is a moron, right? They're fucking idiot. And I think if you did not warn people, they would have just continued on with their day. And God forbid it was a hurricane, it would have been a disaster. And ultimately, it was not. And hopefully tonight's mellow and things go back to normal tomorrow. But I think what I, you know, what I appreciate given what happened in Maui, which was like a lot of citizens there felt like they were not warned with ample time. And I think given that and given just where we're at a society, better to be safe than sorry. If it is in mother nature, it's not predictable, right? Like some stupid power line could go down that could cause a fire that could cause a collapse. You just don't know because like the infrastructure in general is not great anywhere. So like, I'm okay with the, the fear that it caused people up to stay home. Look, I'm glad that everyone gets to make fun of it and it was a joke and it's fine. But like, I just mother nature is fucking scary. So here's my point that everyone could Google it. We could Google where Hurricane Hillary was coming from and where it was going to hit. It was very clear yesterday this morning, this afternoon, that it wasn't hitting Los Angeles. Not a hurricane, but rains and wind was they just didn't know the wind intensity level. You broke up, sorry. I was saying the, the rain, no, Hurricane Hillary, you can look at the, the, no, actually, I agree with you. It was even close to LA. I know it's not the hurricane, but rain and wind in August. But rain and wind happened all the time. We've had the rainiest last 12 months in the history of Los Angeles. Rain in like this in August. We just haven't, we, it was not by me today. April, it is because it's unpredictable given that it was the end of August in Los Angeles. So my point is like you could have Googled it and prepared yourself appropriately. I know, but you can't have to warn people. You have to warn people on, and you're not even necessarily arguing with like the way the news handled it or anything, right? You're just saying that if you really were concerned, you could have looked it up. And it was exactly as it looked on Google. Yes. Yeah. And by the way, I think a lot of people who chose to do that, well, I'm with their day and they did whatever they wanted. And that's fine too. I don't like, I think it's better to give everyone all the information they can get and they can decide what they want. And all the news in the media was saying was like rain is coming. Maybe our case coming, be prepared. There's a lot of people. There is power outage. There's 12,000 homes in the LA County area that do not have power right now. That's real. That's it. 50,000 people. That's real. So it's just like, we have to be like mindful that it is affecting somebody. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I don't think Adam's even arguing with you really. I think, but it's funny because I actually do kind of sit in the middle. I just think, look, I think you're right, D. And if I had to choose, I would choose the side of over caution with like, you know, mother nature as opposed to the opposite. But I'm just a little jaded now of like, I know what the intentions are of the news. And it's, if I believe that the intentions were actually to over prepare people, I wouldn't make fun of it. But the reason why I think it's fun to make fun of is because the intentions are just to sensationalize and to get clicks and to get viewers. And you know, my mom called me like so nervous last night, like, oh my god, you guys are about to get slammed. I was getting texts from our cousins like, are you guys okay, earthquake, hurricane? And I was like, we're fine. Everyone's fine. Yeah. We're fine. There's, I guarantee if you talk to your friends in Malibu, they may have a different view. They live in an area where rain is affected very differently than our part of town. So I don't think everyone is fine. I don't think it's a fair thing. There's still a million people. So what's the number? I, anyone who dies is a problem. If you think that's okay, then that's a different view of the world than you that I have. I mean, that's silly. I don't think anyone would die. I don't think anyone would die to make it. That's silly. It's silly comment. I know. You're affected. 50,000? That's a lot. What are we talking about? Power out? Yeah. So sub 1%. Yeah. You're a few hours. Yeah. If it was you, you would have a different view of it. That's a difference. No, I'd be having a candlelight, you know, I don't, I don't know what I'd be able to play. No, but I'm just saying you have to play it by the numbers, right? That's it. We're fighting. Look, guys, we're coming in hot this episode. We're fighting before we're even fighting. Yeah. I think we all have a similar take. I just think that it's fun to make fun of the news because I think, like, look, let me say this, then I'm not making fun of any of the LA news, but I am making fun of the news in the entire rest of the country that used it for a story to do things like freak my mom out and my mom literally calling me all day, not believing that I was telling her the truth, thinking that I was lying to her to make her feel good because that's how convinced she was that we were facing severe hurricane. And then when the earthquake hit, then they get the news about that. Then it's like, oh my God, Southern California, earthquakes and hurricanes. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the job of the media, right? It is one of you to pay attention and they are incredibly good at that all the time. They want to, it's fear. It's fear porn. Yeah. And that shit works. I'm not saying that is good, but I think you just don't know that it's weird. I'll take that. Yeah. Exactly. I'll take the fear porn and overprepared over like what some people you're right are saying about Maui, which is there were alarms and there were things that weren't used. Yeah. I think everyone needs to actually do their research. So similarly, how I said in February of 2020 that COVID was going to come and lock down our cities. Yeah. Yeah. You have to do the research. So I don't believe in AI for like, like, meaning every person is going to have limitless power because people are fucking lazy. They just watch the news and they're like, oh, fuck it. Like why would you Google it? Yeah. I mean, it's so easy to Google and see the path of the storm and I saw where the storm was going. Yeah. And I saw that it was not hitting Los Angeles. Yeah. Doesn't I'm not saying I'm not I'm not I'm empathetic to the places that hit. I knew is not hitting where I live. Yeah. So you have all the tools to be like a grade A meteorologist in, you know, 1990, but most people still just watch the news. And I just think that's, you know, what people like to, you just, you take the easy, you know, tell me what's going on. People don't want to have like a, and it was as easy media porn, right? CNN, Los Angeles, Hurricane, earthquake. One of the biggest cities in the world is collapsing. Plus climate change. Easy. I'm not saying. Yeah. The world like to push the climate change. That's a problem. I know on it. I'm not trying to go in on your crew here for the climate change thing. He was the most scared about the hurricane. If anyway, I know, I just said he was terrified. He's literally was terrified. No, I just, he's the Maga guy that is so terrified of the hurricane. I know. No, I said, I absolutely, I'm terrified. I couldn't, I could bring up the text messages, I could bring up the text messages. Bring up the text messages. I have to say you're a moron for eating outside literally an hour ago. So I think you're a idiot at eating outside and a great meal with both my kids. I don't eat outside in the rain that's so fucking stupid. Get a hurricane dinner. I had a great meal. I faced time. I mom the entire time. It was awesome. What? Over like an awning or something? Yeah, we were, we were covered. I get it. He was talking about eating outside. So I thought you were just seeing they're getting wet like a fucking moron. I imagine him in the family, we're just in the rain. Yeah, the dishonest, like I have to prove a point. There's no hurricane. Everyone's getting wet tonight. No, we had a great, great pizza. We had great risotto. It was great. Yeah. Well, look, I do think, and this is a, you know, a touchy subject. Why is it touchy? No, no, this part, I'm just, because I'm going to say it, like, I, you just got a note from Ari. Oh, what's the note? The dicey stuff, yeah. Oh, shut the fuck up. I think the climate change is real. I think that humans are affecting it. So let me just put that out on the table. But I do think that any story now that falls into the, see, look at how crazy climate change is, like, it really gets sensationalized. So like, wow, hurricanes in LA, see, we're all going to be dead in 10 years. Like it just feeds into that narrative and, no, it's fair. You know, we have worse storms than this, just pretty much once every winter since I've lived here. Yeah. And we can move on. And I want to actually talk about a couple of things with D. This is not confrontational, no, I don't know, I think it's better for content if we fight. Yeah, I agree. I think we know it's like push ups before these have a. Dodger game Friday night, D go, oh, yeah, we got, this is awesome Friday, John J, who has actually been on the pot, has he actually been on the pot or just listened in? I think he has. Maybe. I think he's definitely come. He's a really old friend of ours, sports illustrator, I've known him for 15, 20 years. Yeah. Like, you know, one of the world's series with the Cardinals retired maybe a year and a half ago, two years ago, is now a coach on the Miami Marlins. And you know, we hung out Thursday night and he's in town because they're playing the Dodgers and he's a very close friend of ours. And he's like, you guys want to come by the game. And I was like, you know, it was all night games. And then Sunday was a day game, but it was like 12 o'clock and we're like a birthday and the hurricane. And I just wanted to deal with that. So then, so then, and then so I wake up in the morning and I talked to the kids. I was like, you guys want to go baseball games and they're like, yeah. And so John hooks it up, gives us tickets to the game, but also batting practice. Which you've gone to the Dodger games. You've torn out of first pitch. Yeah. Which I think I still have your jersey from that day. That's amazing. I have a ball. Yeah, I have the jersey. And you know, my kids, you know, just recently recognized sports, whatever. And what's going on. And so I was like, all right, let's go. We'll go to the batting practice early and then we won't say the whole game, but you know, we'll leave the 737, 45, the game started at seven. So we got there like at 515, get on the field, batting practice. And I'm just thinking to myself, like our childhood going to sporting game was like the most epic. It was, it was a very special like going to a baseball game, laser game, whatever, clipper game, whatever it was. And I remember vividly all those experiences and it was, they were very fun. My kids are probably a little younger than our first game to go to anything. So my Dominic's turning six this week and Miles is turning three this week. And so we, we, the other fields, which is insane, batting practice, which is insane, insane in itself. And then we're sitting there playing and then Roth, our friend who on and went with to the game was talking to an old client of his. And he had his bat and he was like right next to Miles and Dominic and, and, and Miles goes to me, he goes, I want that. And I go, what do you want? And he goes, I want that bat and I go, I got to go ask him. No, so, so the guy, he's like a, you know, a stud on the Marlins says, like, hey, I'm going to go do batting practice and I'll give you the bat right after. And then he goes go up to him and ask him, well, Miles goes to me, he goes, I want that. And the guy heard, I want that. So he was being really nice. So then he goes, he goes batting practice and comes back and he gives Miles the bat and you know, it's funny. Yeah. Yeah. So he, the, the player came out and he looked at me and Rafa and was like about to give it to this little Asian baby. I was like, no, no, me over here and then he gave it to me and then he gives me the bat. And then Haley's like, Miles, give him the bat back, like, what are you doing? By the way, the bat is like massive, right? It's like, and he's like a two year old. And I was like, I think he gave him the bat. It's like his bat. I don't know. He definitely gave me the bat. I know he did that. I was, I was trying to explain to him a real time and I was like, no, no, you got the bat. It's his bat. And these kids got balls bat and Miles was like dragging this bat and a dodger stadium. And to check this out, this is kind of wow, this is a cavity comes and goes, hey, we don't like people sitting with bats in the stands because obviously for obvious reasons. Can I put it in the dugout? Can you get it off to the game? And I said, we're not going to stay that late. Is there any way I can like check it with the stroller because they have a check in for the stroller? He's like, honestly, if you check up with the stroller, it's gone. These people are thieves like don't do that. So he goes, I was like, oh, what should I do then? He's like, where's your car? I'm like, I'm not too far. He's like, all right, I'm going to, you know, just think about it from this perspective. We've all got a sporting event. This guy walked me to the gate, said, told the security guy, he's like, he's going to walk out, unscanished ticket, unscanmed ticket. I went out and came back in. Remember how many times we've been told, oh, that's impossible. You can't go in and out. So you actually walked out of the stadium, put the bat in your car and came back in. No way. It's supposedly the impossible task that's actually impossible. The security guy from the field was like, where are you sitting? And I go right there. And he goes, all right, tell your wife and kids, it would back in 10 minutes. So I tell you, they were going to go, I go, they let me go back to my car and come back. Wow. What a great experience. Yeah. It was good. That's so good. Well, I would only imagine, because I have those moments too, like where I remember going to like Indians games or whatever. And I just can only imagine that like those memories, I don't know, that would just be the coolest thing ever when you're that age. Like, I mean, two, you might be a little hard to remember, a bunch of those experiences. But I just, yeah, those things are like, it's funny, it's Dominic, because we got their late. So we couldn't get on the field. We were literally on the first row. And Dominic's like, why are you on the other side? Oh my God. We know how he's going to be. That's going to be him. But then, but then we went to our seats and on it was him row one and we were 50 rows back. They got humble in a little bit. Yeah. He goes, I then miles the whole day goes, I see uncle and he's pointing like 15 miles away. I'm like, that's not him. That's amazing. Yeah. You can't really imagine, like it's hard to remember, you know, I guess we do remember that. It's just hard to imagine, like, because to us now, you know, and also we talk a lot about how, you know, spoiled we are, how many cool things we've been a part of. And so for us, like going to a random Dodger game is like, you know, it's cool, but, you know, but to kids, man, it's just, I was trying to explain to my kids on the way home. I'm like, do you know how many kids brought their gloves to the stadium in the hopes to catch a ball? Yeah. And these kids got the multiple balls, they got three balls, they got three balls and a band. They didn't have to fight for anything. There's kids over in the home run zone ready to, ready to fight literally, like when we're walking out, people just kept painting the balls because it was the only the last kids left. Like, here's a ball. Oh, my God. That's amazing. It's, it's, it's really funny. And, and, you know, Rafa, who listens to the pod, who's a, like a really big baseball agent, gave me a ticket to last year to the home run derby. And that was the first sporting event I ever took Dominic to and his client was in the All Star game. And the next day we went to the All Star game and Mikey, our friend got me great tickets. And Rafa was with us and Rafa got a ball from his client and gave it to Dominic. He's a good All Star game in LA baseball, which is so great. He's very spoiled. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. You're going to have a probably. And, and I'll actually, like, it was a really cool moment. So I was sitting with Rafa at the game and he's a baseball agent. One of his clients got called up to the big leagues while we were sitting watching the Dodger game. Well, he found out about it. He found out about it. And then he started texting the Cincinnati Red General Manager. They're like trying to figure out logistics and I was like, this is so fucking cool. Wow. Like, I saw it like real time that he was like figuring it out. Yeah. It was really cool. There's just nothing like, like I even watched a little bit of the draft this year because I got caught up in the web in Yama hype, but like, there's just nothing like making it to the major leagues as an athlete. Like I mean, maybe others in like signing a record deal. Like I just don't know. I don't think it is because it's, this is so public sports is public like, yeah, record deal. We don't know about. Yes. True. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You don't know. You have to be able to succeed. If you think about the conversation that Rafa was having with this guy's family, it's life changing. Yeah. And I'm witnessing him having this conversation with this family, like he made it. Yeah. That's why I was watching the draft, like feeling like I was going to tear up because even though those guys know, yeah, I only watched the first round, those guys all know they're going to do well, but like you're watching the moment, like that is the moment where it actually became official. And there's just nothing like it. I even watched that show, the swagger. Yeah. And so, yeah, like you just feel that in that in that moment. Yeah. It's so good. Yeah. That's great. Okay. Ready for some news? One more announcement. What? He's got another one. I got a personal announcement. And I want to share to the Cathy's first, so you know, I've been working like a crazy person the last six months and actually the last two years. And we, you know, we finally closed our series Be Investment for Ghost. Amazing. So, it's going to get announced tomorrow. Josh is going to come on Wednesday just to like, you know, chat about the process and like what we're going to do, but we're raising, we raised $30 million to really build out what we're doing. The series A was 13 and a half million, and the seed was five, so if you do the math, we've raised a lot of money, we're spending a lot of money. But what you're telling me is my Bloomberg station is fine. The Bloomberg station is fine. You can keep it running. I think the, I'm excited to just dive into it all Wednesday with Josh, but like, I'll tell you that shit's hard. It is hard out there. And I think like, you know, we do this podcast, we all run businesses, we all have like our own lives. And like, we'd like to keep it light and not talk about like the serious shit in our life. But the last like, you know, four or five months, it's been borderline miserable. And it's really tough out there to raise money, raise an up-round, raise a lot of money and like, and sell people your vision. You guys are all out there doing stuff and, you know, how hard it is. And I think everyone listening, those how hard it is. So I think like it's a big accomplishment, but a lot of work to do. And as you know, when you do these types of things, you have a gun deer head. And you now have to deliver. We can wait for Josh to kind of dive in, but, you know, I'm in the office every day with these guys. And I saw how much stress and chaos it was the last three months. It was very stressful the last three months because that's when you were raising. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. So like, how do you close around? How do you close around? How do you get the buddy in the bank? Yeah. Yeah. Cause like, we started having conversations in like late April, early May, we're talking in August now. And it happened relatively quickly, but and like, it's just the world is different, right? Like, should change. And you really have to prove that you're doing something special or, you know, you don't get support. And so I see a lot of people on social media complaining, but if you do the right thing and you build something special, there's money. There's always money. Yeah. And mega companies like Zimmerman got brought for a billion dollars. And I just saw, you know, if you look at Cree, the got bought for three plus billion or ASAP for two and a half million, like incredible businesses are getting bought. And I think it just shows that like, you really have to execute like the song and dance is nice, but you got to execute. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The last time you raised, but I feel like with Josh or whatever's right, like you should go into it like, yeah, I think a lot of our audience, I would hope this, even though like sometimes we kind of bubble talk, I do think that people feel like we're relatable, like more relatable than a lot of the types of people that talk about this shit. And I just feel like hearing your take on raising that amount of money, how hard it is to raise it, but the fact that like you just said, it is there if you have the right story and the right thing. And then what you do with it, and like you said, also just in that tidbit, having a gun to your head and the good and bad about having that type of money and you know, everyone here is 30 million dollars and things, oh, must be nice. You just get to roll around and cash all day, but it's a very different thing than that. Like I think that's really valuable. Yeah, and like, and I'll tease you with this and we'll talk about the rest on Wednesday. The day the money hit my head, I was happy in the morning. I think I cried with my wife for like 30 seconds and I stressed the fuck out. That was it. Yeah. Literally, like I can't, because it's not, it's not the end result. And there's an article that came out, if you follow information, they sent it out over the weekend. It was an email. They sent out that basically being the founder of a startup in any industry is an ultra marathon that never ends. Yeah. And the, if you work in Hollywood and you work on a movie or a television show, you film a season, you film a movie and it's over. Yeah. As a startup founder, what is our end? Yeah. An exit. Yeah, it's an exit, right? And most people will never see an exit. That doesn't mean you don't make money along the way, but even if you make a ton of money along the way, you are running the entire time. You never get to stop like so, so I'll actually get a jump in and I think when you hit a milestone in your life, where you think like, okay, this is where I get to be happy. This is where life is chill. It doesn't exist. No. Meaning like your life is your life and it doesn't matter if you had a financial windfall. It doesn't matter if you had some sort of security in your life. Everything still exists in your life and you just kind of keep going. Yeah. And I've been thinking about two a lot is like, if you sold, like I'm 36, if I sold a business right now for like whatever, whatever, life changing a lot of money, I've really been thinking to myself, like, what would I do? Like well, I play a lot of golf. I definitely be in the studio for every episode on Group Chat. You're going to cut your clump. Sure. I joined a country club. Probably like three months in, I would start thinking of the next thing to work on. You know, like at my age without kids and like that whole thing. And so to your point on and I think that, I don't know, I don't have the answer. It's just that's a topic I've been thinking about is like, well, what would I, I would want to continue the race anyway. So it's almost like, I don't know, how do you, how do you run the race at an enjoyable pace that you actually just have, you know, somewhat of a decent balance and you enjoy your life? But like when you talk about having no, no finish line, I don't even with a like a big exit of some sort or whatever, I don't know exactly what any, you know, it would be three months until I would get eager to start the race all over again. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's tough for, you know, people that have similar personalities to all of us and are generally on the younger side of life, like it's really, really hard to have the finish line because I, I don't know, I haven't, I haven't made life changing money yet. So I don't know. Maybe if I got life chasing, when he, I may change my perspective on this, maybe, but, but, but like right now, it just, the good part is is I have the entertainment side and I love it. And I love what I do. I have never fucking worked harder in my entire life. Like I am, I'm driving to fucking Vegas, but crack early in the morning because the flights are going to be canceled in the morning. Like I want it more than ever, but there's a cost to all that, right? Like not spending time like, like not spending time with my children, like not hanging with my friends, not having, you know, there's a cost to all those things. I think like, I'm curious to see, if I get the end result I want, if my life will be different. Yeah. I honestly think your, your personality won't change at all. And I think you'll actually have like more freedom. Yeah. You'll be able to like provide more for your, your family and whatever. But I don't think it's going to change your mind to it. Yeah. That's kind of sad. Like I think you'll have a window. You know, you'll have like a really fun six months or something, you know, that's kind of sad. I don't think it's six months. I actually don't. So I'll tell you why. I think I talked about this on the pod, maybe a month, a few months ago, I was a son on social media and it's a someone posted that the only people that were a member that you worked hard are your children. It's kind of dark because you're not there. Yes. Right? Is that your point? Yeah. Yeah. That's your point. I don't know. I just, I have a slightly more positive outlook on it, please. So I think, I think your children will remember that you worked hard, which will, as long as you don't neglect them, like dad was never there, hardly even know my dad. That will inspire them to work hard. And I think some of the greatest joy and fulfillment that I've gotten out of life is the results of working hard as long as you're not, I mean, none of us are like psychopaths, never see our loved ones, right? D maybe you, not as much as you would like, but you're around, like they don't not know who dad is. Of course. And to be honest with you, like, as long as you're not neglecting that, some of the most happiest, fulfilling things have been the results of hard work, kidding those benchmarks, being proud. I mean, that moment of what you just did, raising $30 million, like I know that it kind of fades fast because you go right back into the race. But like, I do believe that when you're old, old, you're going to look back first and foremost with the time with your wife and kids. But right after that, your achievements and your ability to hustle and make shit happen and you've created jobs for people in that scenario, you've created things in the world. I don't know. I just, when I look at a lot of like the despair in this country, like a lot of the, just complete despair that we see, I think a lot of that is from a lack of purpose and personal achievements and striving for something and owning something and, you know, like, as long as you do it in a healthy way, your kid growing up knowing that hard work is what makes the needle move, arms them with real fulfillment. Like think about kids that are born to either rich parents, really, really rich parents where hard work doesn't matter for them or people that are born to really lazy parents to get instilled with like laziness. Those are some of the most unhappy people. Yeah. People that work hard and strive, you know, I don't know. Yeah. I think that's fair. I think that's a, I guess it's a combination of seeing people talk about like the never ending Marathon and the thing is is like the highs are high, the lows are so fucking well. Yeah. I think that's what gets rid of. If you had life changing money and then started another thing, I think you get rid of those really low lows. Yeah, yeah. That's fine. Because you know, I think experiencing the low lows makes the rest of the journey really easy. Very clear. Yes. I agree. And I think it builds a lot of character. But I do think that if you experience enough low lows and you're lucky enough to hit life changing money where you know that you're all good, you know that your kids are all good. I think you do get to enter the next thing yourself to work your fucking ass off. But I think that you do it with the knowledge that you're not going to, you know, your kids aren't going to starve if things don't go well. You know what I'm saying? Like you take that level of stress out of it, I think you can have a little bit more fun. I don't feel comfortable sharing a lot of personal stuff and I will share it one day. But the last 18 months of my life, that's a crazy. Yeah. That's a crazy. And like I'll share it one day, I don't feel completely yet. But yeah, I think if I get to that point, then maybe I'll have a different view of the world. Yeah. I also just am a believer. Maybe this is wrong. Maybe there's people that we know. We know a lot of them that have done really well for themselves and would tell me this is silly. But I think not to get too philosophical, I think the sort of marathon of life like never ends. Yeah. Like things come up, you know, family things or health things or like I think either way we all signed up for the marathon. We might as well like run it. The happiest we can and enjoy the grind. But like I don't know if I don't personally know anyone that I feel like it's truly escaped the marathon of life and just crazy. You can't. Right. Well, I mean, I think it would be a good example as your cousin Rob, right? Like, does he have to, he never has to work again. No, but his point is different, right? No, but it's different. It's like you you're escaping like the reality of life. Yeah, yeah. So like even so let's use so I could try to once again, there could be people who have done it. But I'll use my cousin as an example. My cousin never has to work again. Has a beautiful family has all of it is I believe a very happy person. But like if you look at the outside, he has every box track, every life. Yep. But here's the thing. The point is he still works harder than most people I know. Like he still has the thing. He's still in the marathon. Yeah. It's just that he gets to do it knowing that the downside is not very severe. But he's still, if you asked him today, he acts like what he's accomplished or the amount of money he has or whatever is nothing and the next thing is going to be the great thing. And that's what I'm saying. No matter what, you can't help but like run the race. And the goal I think is to run it as, you know, sort of peacefully or I don't even want to say happily because I think that's a little bit of a false thing you're shooting for. But like, you know, without those severe, severe lows. Yeah. That's her. Well, fucking congratulations, D. Thanks. Yeah. It's big news tech crunch tomorrow, tech crunch tomorrow morning, generally speaking, we don't do press. I'm trying to remain a very low profile for the business because we have a long fucking way to go. But, you know, unfortunately, SEC filings release the number of dollars you've raised and who's given it to you. So it will get announced tomorrow no matter what. So we want to just get ahead of it. And then well, we'll break down the whole thing. It's it. It's a really great story and who our investors are amazing and the last question just because I think it's good for like Sunday night, the Sunday pod. And then you can go more in depth on it on Wednesday is like, so sitting here today, you said you've cried, laughed, been stressed to shit already. Yeah. Leading into Monday. So now this is good. We've done it. It's off your plate. What is your attitude? Is your attitude like relief? Is it a new level of motivation? Is it fear? Is it like, honestly, what is your attitude to Monday? It is an enormous amount of motivation because I know I have, you know, beliefs in what we're doing, incredible amount of fear and stress, like why? It's because like with this, I mean, we've raised like $50, $60 million, right? In the same amount of time that basically Uber raised, that's that amount of money. Like we're on that trajectory and you have to deliver, right? You just cannot not deliver. Yeah, we've delivered for the first 22 months, but you have to deliver till the exit whenever that happens. And I think I, I'll be honest, like I wake up in panic sweats at night all the fucking time. Like I go to, I travel three, four nights a week. I don't sleep. Like I'm in New York City. I come home at midnight, I wake up five in the morning in sweats, stress the fuck out. I go for a run. I, you know, it's like I'm going to Vegas tomorrow morning. I'm driving because I'm, I don't want to get late because of flights and I won't sleep in Vegas and I'll come back and it's like, it's, I don't know if it's healthy or whatever it is, but it's like I, I feel like I have this, you know, we have this responsibility to deliver and, you know, the challenge for me is like, I've been doing this a very long time. If I was 26 years old, I might go to Vegas and have a good fucking time. Yeah. Like I was raised 30 mil, whatever. But, you know, I haven't, I haven't made it to the promised land. And so I want to question everything I've done in the past to be like, what, didn't I do previously that hasn't gotten the result that I wanted? And that is what's like stressing me out. It's like, you know, we've, you know, we've all worked together for a very long time. Hiring people, siring people, right decision, all these strategy, all these things we think about, like, now I have a very different view of the world because it's like, I don't know if this is my last chance or not, it might be, right? So it's like, I, I, I, I take it very, very seriously. So like, it's scary, just be honest. Yeah. That's good. It's scary in the sense that like you're basically like, hey, this is my chance. Yeah. Exactly. Like, I, I always thought my, like, previous journey was my chance. And I didn't think I would get another chance. I'll be honest. Like I literally did not think I would get another chance. And the fact that I got it, I'm like, very scared that I got to make it work. Yeah. Where are you scared? Because it's, it's different before I didn't have wife, kids, tuition, like that to worry about. Is I, I, financially, it's very scary if you don't deliver it. That's why I'm scared. I'm not scared because the ego reasons, like, I have no problem with failure. If I don't make it, I'm okay. Yeah. I'm more scared of just like not being able to provide. Hmm. Yeah, I get it. I tell you that doesn't feel good because that doesn't feel good. Yeah. Well, it all starts again tomorrow. I'm excited for the TechCrunch article and congratulations to, thank you. I'm very in tune with what's going on in venture fundraising and it's virtually impossible to raise money right now, unless you're an AI company or we don't got no AI in our name. Awesome. Yeah. D and Josh were able to pull this off and, you know, hats off. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Great job. Thank you, guys. All right. Well, before you try to get some sleep with all this new anxiety, let's talk about some news. This might be triggering, you know, far-fetched stock is down more than three days. It's actually good for him. Yeah. You're right. It's good for ghosts. Here we go. A far-fetched stock is down more than 30% after missing their quarterly revenue expectations. What do you guys think? We've talked about far-fetched a lot on here. So on a single day, the stock dropped 45%, revenue projections for the quarter were like $650 million, it came in at $572, lost over $280 million for the quarter, which is like, you know, you only do it $570 million, I lose in $280 million. It's luxury, which what we've always known is, in a recession, luxury is the best place to be. Like, you win. Yeah. I don't want to say that luxury is the issue, or is it far-fetched is the issue? Like, I mean, I think the business isn't work, right? Yeah. I mean, I think like, the biggest challenge- It's just a marketplace of luxury goods and, you know, the CAC doesn't need their LTV. That's it. You got to have a low-CAC. Yeah, you got to have a little CAC. A little CAC. If you have a little CAC, it's really simple. You can win with a little CAC. It's really simple. Like, we don't need to like, like, litigate this, it's a little CAC. Yeah. If you have a small CAC, you win. Which is really strange. It's not, you know, what I've always been told. And everywhere in life, if you have a big CAC, you win. Yeah. Yeah. Life's all about, you know, a CAC showing contest. By the way, if you don't know what CAC is, just don't explain it. That's a mirror acquisition cost. That's what we're talking about. So we thought anything different. Get your mind together. Yeah. He's fucking sick fucks. Yeah, he's sick of. I think it just more surprises me because we've talked about, like luxury is just such a hot space. I think that's the, you know, just, I don't know, and nothing's easy and these people are dealing with all the same issues that we just talked about for the last 45 minutes and how tough this shit is. But I think the shocker is like luxuries usually hot in a down market, the luxury seems pretty untouchable and it just seems like they're having a really hard time figuring it out. Yeah. To me, it doesn't, I don't know, something doesn't make sense, like it's such a big of a CAC. Yeah. You got it. And they own, they bought new guards group, which owns off-flight Palm Angels, all those brands. So like, they have like incredible IP as well. Like, there's ways to monetize off white, like, I'm sorry, like the brand's still very, very relevant. And you can make mine out of it. Yeah. Okay. Bad news. If you are a meta employee that loves to turn off an home, to play with your CAC at home, they're calling people back to the office. They're getting pretty strict. There's another one, you know, we saw Zoom, I think it was last week of the week before said it. So we're just, you know, we're starting to see a lot of this sort of thing. Yeah. They, you know, originally, they were talking about being in the neighborhood. And now they're saying that you have to be there at least three days a week. And that was as a June. And it sounds like it's going a step further where it's pretty close to every single day. And if they, and they're saying that if you don't in a memo that like, we will terminate people and move on. So I think though the work from a home party, at least in big tech, well, is changing, like all of these larger companies are asking. And what's funny is it's a very different expectation from employees around the country where everyone wants to work from home more than ever. Yeah. It's a mismatch with the recession coming, like, you've got something has to reconcile, like either employees given or employers decide they're like, Hey, we can't win this battle. My guess is the employers went, I don't think employees win this battle because I think if push comes to shove, there will be a new set of employees that will want to work at the office. I don't know. What are you seeing? I think with a tough economy, that changes everything, right? The economy's booming, everyone's doing well. I think, you know, the employees probably win for quite a bit longer. But if you pair all of this with a tough economy on the way, and I think everyone kind of follows the lead a little bit, not everyone, but a lot of people of, you know, these big tech companies, these are the biggest companies that we got. So you kind of follow, like, Oh, they're calling people back into the office. Why am I still letting people, you know, work from home? I don't, you know, our company in particular is still, you know, the team is so small. I, we have like a pseudo, you know, hybrid model that I'm actually pretty happy with. There is something that happens in small companies, when everyone's in an office where everyone, like chats and hangs out and, you know, there's a different thing there that I kind of forgot. You know, we did that a lot at the old days, a young and reckless. But when I've had people back in the office, that's also been, you know, a little bit of a distraction. So to me right now for a small company like us, being half in, half out is totally been great, but longer term. And as we grow, like if we had 50 employees, I think it'd be much easier for me to just say everyone's in the office. I don't want to worry about some weird hybrid schedule. It's easy now. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. And what do you think? I think it's really interesting how you portray the, like people being in the office and it's actually distraction. Yeah. Because I didn't actually understand that until like two episodes ago or whatever we talked about it. And I was like, I'd never actually understood that. Yeah. Like, yeah. Like what do you mean? Meeting like you guys, you're saying like the employees are just like not doing things. I think that there's just a lot like to your point, if you could perfectly engineer it, right? What you would do is you would maximize the amount of random conversations that lead to productive things because that definitely does happen and it doesn't happen with work from home. And you would somehow minimize all of the other, right? Just kind of chitchat or like, you know, talking about one person goes to the Taylor Swift concert and everyone's talking about it for two hours. I think that's a problem. Actually, is that a problem? So look, I want to be honest, just in case anyone's actually actually have had multiple conversations with ghost employees, but the Taylor Swift concert. It's a problem. You're the problem. You're the problem. I want to keep it real because I know who knows people might listen to this. It hasn't been what I would call a problem yet, but I've just noticed like when you go from two years of working remote and there is zero of that happening, and sure, there's other shenanigans, there's people doing whatever they're doing, you know, not working. But when you see, you know, you're just when you're in a room and you see people talking about it and then you leave and then you come back a couple hours later and they're still talking about it. And you're like, well, I know that there's work to be done. I literally know what it is that we're waiting on. Yeah, it makes you think like, hmm, what's the right amount here? Because just this, having to, you know, have do this five days a week and then someone has to kind of police, you know, at the young and reckless office, even though we were all about fun and whatever, we still walked around a lot just to let people know we were kind of looking, you know, we still, whatever, and you have to kind of police. And it's just when you haven't had to do it for two years, you just realize it now. Whereas that was just the norm before. So I have a really different take. I think, you know, being around the ghost offices daily, I think being in person, you police yourself like automatically. So like, I'm not employed by D. I'm not employed by ghost shows and do the opposite. You are the problem. No, but my point is that everyone kind of like build this camaraderie. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you. And I see it. And I see it with like, Javier and Helen and Jordan and all these guys like, they literally build this camaraderie or like, hey, we need to like build to words like getting something done. Yeah. And that would not happen if it was remote. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you. And like I said, I want to be really clear how I represent this. I watch it. I watch it firsthand. Yeah. Look, all that I'm saying is, as someone who's kind of experimenting with different options right now, I have also noticed that something like Monday through Wednesday, it's like what's on your to-do list, what's on your notion, get your stuff done. Let's just work. And then Thursday, Friday, we're working together and maybe Friday, we have a lunch catered and like that to me also feels like an interesting balance. And so for me with, you know, let's just say 15 people that are local, not 50, not whatever, there's something that seems a little more nuanced to it than just everybody all the time. And once again, to reiterate, if I had 50 people, the answer would definitely be everyone in all the time because who has the time to manage that schedule of who's in, who's out, blah, blah, blah. But there's something to like head down, work on your slack and your notion, get your deliverables done, get your to-do's for the week out, get your selling reports, it's just, we're getting our work done. And then there's this kind of cadence to the week where the bonding happens Thursday, Friday. And people kind of miss each other. And, you know, I don't know. I'm not saying I have the answer. I'm just saying. No, I get it. I see like, I actually see the in person like kind of magic in the ghost environment that I'm like, why wouldn't other companies want to do that? Yeah. I've just seen now the difference between like, we have a team that is pretty, like they're pretty responsible. And so Monday through Wednesday or Monday through Thursday, most of them like, they get their shit done. You know, like everyone's at home or wherever they like to work from and they're just cranking through work. I mean, I've literally had people be in the office when everyone's there and be like, hey, do you mind if I break out and like go to the coffee shop or whatever, because I just need to like focus. Like, there's too much talking happening and, you know, and I actually, I understand that now like, especially from like from an engineering standpoint or a position that doesn't require to be very social, like some folks just need that quiet time to get work done. So I'm not against this hybrid workforce, but I do think it's important to spend time together because I do think you do create some magic that way. I agree. And to be clear, I don't think it's scalable. So if I was Facebook or Twitter or anyone else, it's easy just to say, you know, and just say fucking everybody in. All right. Love it. Love it. Okay. Listeners, because you guys both know because it's on our list. I want you to take a moment to guess who the biggest seller of sushi in America is. Who does the most volume of sushi in America? I know what you're all thinking, Katsuya, you know, maybe it's sugar fish. Maybe even Benihana. I don't know. Maybe they pump out a bunch of sushi. Nope. The answer is Kroger. Unbelievable. All right. Unbelievable. I mean, it's a tweet from Gunjin. We love Gunjin. She's been on the pod before highlights really interesting stuff like this. And I mean, Kroger, I, to me, I can't do it. I love sushi. I just can't go there. But maybe I'm wrong. Kroger, which is based in Cincinnati, Ohio, owns Ralph's, bought by, uh, by, um, Albertson is a reportedly selling 40 million pieces of sushi in a year. It's just, I just have trouble with it. I mean, obviously I'm, you know, in the minority here, but there's just something like the cheap merchant close to an ocean, the cheap merchant officer was like, when customers think of sushi, we want to think of Kroger. I mean, I want to hate it on it, but it sounds like they're doing it. Yeah, they are. It's like, I think what's interesting is it's like people, you know, uh, want to like dunk on like people in the middle of the country and, you know, you would think it executive Kroger, I don't know what they're doing, but they're the largest seller of sushi in America. Wow. It's kind of wild. Like, it's also just really makes me realize like the side that I take is like how many people haven't, like how big is the open market for sushi? Yeah. Because that experience is terrible. Like I just want to, like I live, um, a hundred yards from a sugarfish and the difference of ordering it versus going in person is night and day, just the time it takes to drive it a hundred yards or walk it a hundred yards if I go pick it up. It is a night and day difference. And so what you're telling me is that even Kroger sushi, which is just sitting there, you know, in a refrigerated unit of sometimes, you know, all day, I'm sure before you can grab it, people are still that hungry for it. So there must be like a huge untapped market. Yeah. I mean, that just tells you like a chain like sugar, sugarfish can basically enter every city in America and do well. There's an audience. If Kroger is selling the most sushi in America, then like basically everyone can be at that level. Yeah. There's just a hunger for sushi, I guess that because you know, like when I remember when I moved here, I had a very, I still don't, you know, I still have a 15 year old palate, but like sushi seemed crazy, you know, and like I started with like California rolls, which is like a little bit of crab and then like whatever. And it just seems like maybe more and more people are like into eating sushi. That's an interesting thing. Like I wonder what other opportunities there are with that. Yeah. I think I think the palate in America is so different than the rest of the world. Like when you go to Italy, it's Italian food. Yeah. Are you going to try Chinese food? You know, Korea is great, but America is a very unique place when it comes to like palate. Like where sushi, 40 million, whatever, these are sold through a grocery store, that's just a grocery store. It's, I think Americans are open when it comes to cuisine. If it's good, they'll eat it. It's like, could you have like the McDonald's of sushi? I, I 100% think you can. Like it feels like an opportunity to me. John Terzian from H.wood, that was his dream in college. He wanted to do a fast-food sushi place. He should revisit it. It was called Fushi. Oh, I remember that name. I remember that. It just seems like an opportunity now. It seems like the like the amount of people that are trying it is obviously going way. I mean, think about just 40 million pieces of sushi this year. Think of all those people that are being exposed to it that are now okay with it, that have gotten over kind of the, that's gross hump. I feel like you could have the frickin' at a minimum, you could have like the Chipotle of sushi. You know, maybe it's a little bit more custom. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I think it's there. Crazy. This seems gross. Okay. How about this? I mean, Calacanus, a friend of the pod. He posted this list of the cost of ozemic in, you know, bike country. And you know, we've talked a lot about ozemic and, you know, I would say we've been very supportive here on the pod, but there's a little bit of an issue. The price in the U.S. is vastly different than the price in other countries. Like 8x, sometimes 10x. 10x, right? So list, list price for one month's supply of ozemic, wagovii, and mornjuro. In the United States, 900 something dollars, wagovii is 1300 and mornjuro is 1000. In Canada, which is not far, $147 a month. If you live in America and you want ozemic. Yeah. That feels predatory. Take your ass to Canada. You might as well. Yeah. It's like Taylor Swift tickets. You might as well fly to Canada. Yeah. Girls come home. It's cheaper. Yeah. Go see a show in Toronto and lose 30 pounds. It's just, I mean, obviously the U.S. is, you know, the one struggling with the most obesity. And this feels very predatory. Very predatory. It's a joke. I hate United States pharmaceutical companies. But they gave us the vacs, they're good guys. By the way, I just finished painkiller. I've been taking all your records. Oh, the guy. Holy shit. How painkiller is kind of sad, depressing. The good thing is I already watched dope sick, which is pretty much just like who lose version or whatever that network that did that. Yeah, I got it. And, but man, it is brutal. Yeah. I'm like, I was like, I was like, I can't watch this and make this to the present. It's just such a predatory industry, man. And you see it here. Even with those epic, I thought it's epic was all good. We're all just losing weight. So what do you think the problem is, right? No, big pharma in America controls pricing. It's actually the insurance companies. Yeah. They can tax anything. And by the way, and like, you, you have to be a diabetic to get insurance cover. You can be over a weight and not be a diabetic and then you have to pay for it. That's unfair. I wonder if there's doctors. Remember how there used to be weed doctors that would like, oh, you have insomnia, here's your weed prescription. Like I wonder if they're like, ah, it sounds like you're diabetic. No, there's plenty of those temperatures. Yeah, that's, you know, I know a lot of people in that space. Well, either way, it's just, it's just, I think the thing that gets me if I could put it into quick terms is it's just the whole industry is so predatory, just praise on people. And it's just, yeah, it's, it's, it's, I mean, when you watch Painchiller, it's like got wrenching. I'm fresh off of that. So I have a bad. Yeah. Okay, how about this China? So we've talked about China a lot, you know, I think the topic about China has been that over the last, you know, 40 years, it's just exploded. Like it's went from, you know, not notable to the second largest economy in the world. They've absolutely exploded. And it started to really scare people, you know, then they have things like, you know, TikTok and these things that come to America. And there's been a lot of fear. They now are having a lot of trouble, a lot of economic trouble. And you know, we don't ever know the exact issues because it's China and you know, they're very tight lipped about that, but there's some, you know, pretty obvious, really big problems. Yeah, I mean, I think the big challenge is that like China is having like a number of issues happen at once. One is they have a real estate crisis on their own. They have some of their largest real estate companies imploding. They also have very high unemployment for their youth. That's also an issue. Then you have like their COVID recovery has not been like America. Like they have their citizens are not spending like we are and now they're cutting interest rates to hopefully stimulate the economy. And then their biggest business is export, right, a manufacturing export, which we all make stuff. We're all making less stuff than we did two years ago. So that is one. And then the other is so many of the largest companies because of COVID have diversified where they make stuff. So not just making in China anywhere, they're making in Vietnam and India and Korea and whatever other countries they can make product and or even in America. And so definitely like over the next couple of years, where does this country really fit? Like they had this incredible run. They've controlled their population. They came out with TikTok, but what else have they done? It's so weird to me that like with how much, you know, maybe I have this wrong somehow, but with how much their economy relies on ours, it's so strange that they're so outspoken about like wanting to dominate us. Yeah. Right. It doesn't make sense. Yeah. Why wouldn't you just be secretive about it? I'm not saying you're not going to do it, you're not going to try to do it. But like why are they're pretty open outspoken about their, their plans and it just seems weird. Yeah, I agree. I think I don't know the answer for that. It also seems weird to me that they used sort of a capitalism model to grow really quickly and then sort of started putting the squeeze on that same model that worked and that seems to be, once again, we don't know the extent of trouble that that caused, but seems to be causing some trouble and obviously hurts incentivizing the next round of Jack Maas. That seems weird too. You know, it almost seems like they, I don't know. There's like this quest for like dominance today that like kind of gets in the way. Yeah. I don't know. I used to think they were playing the game right. They seem like kind of dropping the ball here. Yeah, it seems like I mean, not that we want them to pick the ball up, but it just feels, it feels like some missteps here, which is great because for a little while there, I was legitimately worried. I feel better now. I still really think the, ah, to be honest with you, I think mainly fentanyl and TikTok are way worse for our country than we realize. Yeah. Fentanyl, obviously, we know how bad it is, but the fact that like, it's, to me, it is weaponized. Yeah. But, ah, it does make me feel better. Not to mention, you know, I think you mentioned a, I don't know if we got it or not because we were cutting out, but, you know, Zohan says we got 90 years. 90 years. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see. Okay. Last but not least, I didn't read this on purpose. The number one city in the United States with the worst traffic is not L.A. or New York. I have no idea. I'm so lost if it's not one of those two. Is it like a random, not Chicago, you don't think it's Chicago, it is Chicago. Is it Chicago? Chicago, Boston, New York, Philly, Miami, LA, San Francisco, DC, Houston, wow. Yeah. Crazy. How do they? Yeah. So maybe Chicago and Boston ahead? I think. Yeah. What? Well, people don't realize like, people always want to say LA has the worst traffic. That's someone that basically travels to all these cities all the time. New York is un-fucking bearable. Unbearable. It's just like discount it because you can walk. So they say LA is worst. Because you don't actually drive. Most people drive. Yeah. LA, post pandemic, LA has much less traffic. Yeah. I can't stress. I live off sunset and when I used to go out on sunset at 7.30 in the morning, it was a parking lot. Yeah. 7.30 in the morning now? Nobody there. Zero. There's literally no traffic. The traffic doesn't even pick up to like 8.39 o'clock and it's not that bad. So there is a traffic shift in LA because of post pandemic, but it goes back to work. Yeah. That's the one down 12. Contact. Yeah. All right. Well, unfortunately, we're, you know, I kind of want to be number one. I got to be honest. I'm a little hurt. Yeah. All right. That's all we got. We got some shout outs. We got a shout out. Joe and Kramer, too, Charlie, want to give out a shout out to my buddy, Charlie. In LA, OG Kathy, who turned me out to the pod, getting married this weekend in San Diego, Chuck's a real one and congrats to him and his bride, Taylor. Hopefully you got married on Saturday when it was nice and dry and not have to do with the rain. Yeah. Maybe he didn't get married. So Chuck, if you made it, congrats. Yeah. Definitely. If not, try again. Next weekend. Another one is from our guide Patrick, Kennedy Williams to all the Kathy's in San Diego. Shout out to all the Kathy's in San Diego. Try not to get blown up the map to me. Patrick, that's not very, that's not very motivational. Blown off the map. I don't know if that's the correct terminology. Lastly is from Alex, a K at agent Alexander to himself, please shout me out. I've been a long time fan. Love the podcast, especially the stocking by, by the way, Alex, we do not give financial advice on this podcast. Yeah. Careful, Alex. Love it. Okay. Anything else? That's it. All right. We did it. We survived. I will tell all the Kathy's. It looks like the rain is slightly less than when we started the were survivors. And we'll talk to you on Wednesday. Everyone have a great week. Bye bye. No intro. No intro. Bye bye. Let us know what you thought. Go, we'll go.

No Intro | Group Chat News Ep. 797