Hey guys, welcome to Group Chat.
We're all here.
Sunday's get.
Gosh, Sunday is good.
Sunday just goes off the rails in a good way, though, I think.
I mean, you know, it's an it started really wholesome.
Kind of, but we were kind of bashing country clubs to start.
Like we started pretty feisty.
Yeah, but.
Well, actually, you know, you started with a wholesome golf story.
Then we went.
Wholesome golf story and then full on tin foil.
We went full tin foil, but I feel like we're probably pretty accurate.
Yeah, it was good.
There's I'm on.
I was on the ropes on and I feel like on and, you know,
on and wants to believe on his idols are like real and they're just not.
But even the zuck thing, like, he wants to believe that these people are
superheroes.
I get it.
You like Spider-Man, whatever.
It just feels a little unfair.
It feels like it feels like we're.
Like fucking I love Batman, Iron Man, whatever.
I feel it feels it feels unfair to me.
It feels like on and has been outnumbered a lot lately.
Yeah.
And just getting bullied here.
You've been taking a beating and but it's OK.
You know what?
It makes for great content and.
Yeah, I don't know what else to say.
We talk about golf a little bit.
Then we talk about the news and then we go full conspiracy theory and it's to me.
It feels like a hell of an episode.
You guys let us know what you think.
Look, everyone said they wanted me in the studio on Sundays.
This is what you get.
So I don't know.
Everyone in the room was laughing a lot.
I hope you guys do too.
Let's get into it.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah.
Roll and video roll and audio Sunday night.
All three gentlemen on the pot in studio.
It's going to be a good episode.
Wow.
Let's get into it.
Wow.
Bruce buffer over here.
Yeah.
Nice.
What do we got today, guys?
Well, what's interesting is.
Just because of all the golf talk, I paid attention to some golf today.
I didn't watch TV.
No, I didn't.
My boy Brooks live.
Yeah.
My guy.
Big day for live.
Did you guys see the next guy?
You're you're you're I'm a live guy.
I've always been a little guy.
You know Brooks best friend is who is it?
Trump.
Well, gone into the
draw.
But it's in the spectrum, right?
Did you see the story of the PGA pro?
So that's what I wanted to talk about.
Yes.
Incredible story.
I think this might be the this is Tiger Woods big for golf.
I know they got to lean into it.
So so there was a guy named Michael Block.
Yep.
46 year old.
So that golf pro from Mission VA.
Ho.
Yeah.
The local guy.
Yep.
He literally he just looks like a dude.
He literally looks like a golf pro in Mission VA.
He charged a hundred fifty dollars for lesson.
I saw some promo video he does.
Yeah.
I think it's a public golf course.
I think fancy.
I think so.
Yeah.
How do you end up in this tournament?
I didn't follow that part.
Like how we ended up playing in the tournament.
It's a possible right to get into these tournaments.
Yeah.
I think that there's probably some sort of like PGA.
You know, you do some other tournament and you could qualify.
Yeah.
You know, something like that.
So yeah.
So whatever.
Exactly.
So we're going to know the backstory.
He ends up qualifying.
He actually plays well.
He ends up in today in the last eighteen with Rory McElroy.
It's a hole in one.
Hole in one.
And dunked it.
So many inspirational quotes.
Yeah.
And I think when if I'm golf, like obviously live came and stole golf's thunder.
Yep.
This.
Think about it.
Every 30 something 40 something year old schmuck is sitting there today being like,
that could be me.
I'm one of those.
Yeah.
You could be.
I'm one of those schmucks.
Even me.
I was like, guys, 46.
I'm like, I'm like 10 years.
I could be this guy.
You could dunk a hole in one with Rory.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Like if I if overnight, first of all, if I'm live, I'm signing that motherfucker.
Pay him 10 million dollars.
Yep.
And let him be the face of like, just have him go to like local public courses all
over America.
And like, oh, play with me.
Play Michael Block.
I made it to PGA.
Yeah.
It's legendary.
I think it's it's the only sport in the world.
That's why to me, it's not a sport because some 46 year old schmuck.
Yeah.
I think it's fair to call it.
It's like a professional hobby.
Yes.
And did you see when it's politics to me, like anyone can just show up.
Did you see when they announced him?
No, I had no idea.
I just saw I read the story this evening.
So I think that would happen.
This may be just my view of it, but he played all weekend.
It was kind of a story, but then that story bubbled up like on TikTok and everywhere.
So today everyone was like ready and prepared to see him.
So when they announced like the tee off, you know, like starting at 2.30
tee time, Rory McElroy and everyone cheers and he hits the first shot.
This guy got a bigger reaction than Rory.
People were roaring.
No pun intended lining up waiting to see him tee off overnight.
He became like another from another dude in the tournament to like the guy to see.
I mean, to me, he's the biggest golfer in the world because we're talking about the
backwards hat.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Please talk about it.
Ridiculous.
We're getting back with that and PGA championship.
And do you realize that Rory backwards hat was trending on Twitter?
Because everyone was like backwards hat.
Rory is sick and he was playing well that day.
The disrespect.
We're talking about one of the majors, one of the four.
Where was this golf course?
I don't have no idea where this.
I heard saw it's OK.
Good question.
We should probably do it.
Yeah.
Not that in America.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it's definitely.
It's a good idea.
It's a good idea.
It's a good idea.
It's golf tournaments.
I don't know where the hair could be.
It could be.
I could be.
I could be.
I could be.
It could be.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But this is one of the four biggest tournaments of the year.
Yeah.
Rory McElroy, the face of golf currently.
Back where's that?
Yeah.
Will you walk into El Cabb over on recida.
And they kick you out.
What about Braemark?
Can you wear a background?
That's they don't give a fuck what you do over a brand.
You said the boss.
I used to walk into the pro shop to get my tea time in like slippers and a t-shirt.
And probably 50% of the time the guy said, like, Hey, man, you have a button up, right?
And I'm like, Oh, yeah.
It's like you was like to a membership.
Literally, are you homeless?
You have a home or a home?
Watch a certain New York.
OK.
They're not laughing that backwards hat over there.
But he did.
No, no, no, that's what I'm saying that the fact that they did.
But that's my problem.
That's my complaint.
So funny, I've been, I was at a birthday party for the kids and ended up with all the
dads, all of them played golf.
Yep.
I'll go one.
And they're all members at, you know, Bel Air, Lakeside Hill.
Everyone's a member at something.
I didn't realize that they all played golf.
I mean, I've known these people my whole life.
I had no idea.
And so I started talking about Anthony Bourdain and golf, his drama doing,
erating them and like whatever.
And they were like, you know, golf stops.
Golf stops.
They were like, Oh, you can't do that.
You can't do what the worst.
Like, you can't talk about this.
Talk about it.
Talk to it.
We can talk with everything.
So that's what I'm telling you now.
That's what I'm telling you now.
That's the thing.
And then he was talking.
One of them is the Bel Air guy was like, you can't talk to him.
I'm like, you guys are even a clubhouse.
You don't have a damn clubhouse.
You got here.
Guess what?
Never invite me.
I don't care.
By the way, I drove by LACC today.
I never actually paid attention to LACC, but I know the golf tournaments coming there.
Yeah.
They I saw like the huge structures they've built.
I didn't see it.
So, yeah, yeah, it's huge.
And they said that no guests can golf there till August one course is all like.
I actually actually connected drama with this LACC invite.
Yeah.
I'm invited.
He's invited.
But I can't go till June because of that.
Yeah.
Which is totally fine.
I'm going to play by the rules.
Yeah.
I'll give an honest review.
But what's amazing is that you're hot.
I'm this is getting overwhelming.
Yeah.
I'm getting like a little anxious.
So, I mean, um, US Open, that's that's a major, right?
Yeah, it's one before and that's happening soon.
It's happening Father's Day weekend.
Oh, that's a good weekend to have it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, she got offered tickets on the text.
Ridiculous.
The San thing, but anything.
I kind of want to go to the get.
I'm kind of want to see it.
Maybe for Sunday.
Father's Day.
No, I don't want to go on Father's Day.
I'll go on like.
Go Saturday.
Friday.
Go Friday or Saturday.
So, you know, you could just ask our brother in law.
We'll have my brother in law.
Yeah.
Right now he has four tickets.
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Asking.
We got him.
I'm coming.
Which day?
I'd rather go Friday.
That's probably easy.
Yeah.
Friday, I mean, Scott.
Quite easier.
Yeah.
Because I don't want a couple hours.
Saturday, Sunday will be like two rowties.
Sunday's going to be the.
Yeah.
I don't want to see all that.
Yeah, yeah.
It's Sunday, Friday, Friday.
I'd rather be with my kids.
Yeah.
Go, go Friday.
I would even go Thursday.
Like Thursday, 2 p.m.
with like Wilmington Trust people.
I went to the US Open.
I can't read.
I went to Thursday.
US Open at Pebble Beach.
Yeah.
It was unbelievable.
Maybe I'll do Thursday then.
Yeah.
It was so fun.
That's going to be the quietest.
You just look around, hang out, get a little dose of it.
Do I got to wear?
Make fun of the snops.
Probably.
Yeah.
I know she probably not.
I don't think you do.
This is a tour.
I don't think you do as a fan, right?
Yeah, a fan.
We're a T.
We're at Kobe Jersey.
Yeah.
I don't think that'll work out.
But it's funny is my our who you all know, David.
He was like, we're talking about golf.
He doesn't golf.
He's like, I want to go to waste management.
Because he's like, I saw him.
He saw like a video of waste management.
He's like, I want to go to that.
Wow.
I think like waste management and Michael Block
could change the trajectory of golf.
That's my point.
Not all this uptight bullshit.
Yeah.
Waste management is the loosest, most party event.
Waste management is literally that's what it is.
You're managing waste.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not doing a very good job of it.
What this is I was going to ask.
What other thing?
Is there that is so strict?
And it's no, no, I mean, you can't.
Screaming.
Yeah, like a lunatic.
No, I'm not going to wear a button.
No, you forward hat tucked your shirt in and wear a belt to play a board meeting.
Like what else is that strict?
A board meeting is a black T shirt and jeans.
Depends if you're a church.
No.
You know the church.
They don't kick you out.
They don't ask you to tuck your shirt in.
I don't think nothing.
This is a sport.
It's barely even a sport sport.
It's a fucking hobby.
It's finally cool with young people.
It's a game.
It's a game.
It's finally cool with young people.
I'm OK with it having an element of like, you know, it's golf.
You should wear the thing.
Look, this is what I'm here to tear down.
I think I have to say.
The thing is, if you break it down, drama, you might be like a pioneer.
You might be a legendary.
I might get a call from the first Saudis.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You might know that's what you want to do.
If you could be like a commentator where it's like the simulcast,
where it's like the serious commentator and then it's you.
Yeah.
I just make TikToks.
Well, they're trying to do it.
Did you see the comment?
They had the mic up at the PGA.
Yep.
On Thursday and Friday.
Yeah.
And then we're talking shit.
Rory, we said some shit like a few other guys.
There's some really good TikToks of them being like, hit the fucking ball.
You know, like, that's what we want to hear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
You're just on the LCAB.
I'm a practice.
I'm going to I want to do a shirt with all the country clubs.
You should just be funny.
Maybe we do a shirt where like I sort of like summer crossed out.
Yeah.
Green check.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
The Bourdain show.
You get to cross out the ones you don't like.
Once you do like this one.
Belair.
Get a clubhouse.
Racist.
It's really funny, like how protective people are of their country club.
It's weird.
It's like I'm trying to think of like anything like that I'm a part of.
Where I would defend it blindly.
I just even like that you pay an arm in my leg.
Like I would do all these schools like USC.
I went to my high school.
Am I going to blindly defend them?
No, absolutely not.
No.
Yeah.
They fucked up.
They fucked up.
What else is like this?
It's it's it's I think it's like.
For specifically a group of nails, it's the last thing they're holding on.
That like they have full control over.
I also like that.
It's like that is a kid.
Like what's even what is the fear of what the fear of like not being accepted
at the country club because you talk shit about it or you try to break down a barrier.
And we're just basically like.
You know, it's all stupid.
I mean, I honestly can say maybe that this will most likely be different when I'm like 50.
Mate, I would say.
I just want to hedge my bets and say it most likely to be different.
I've been now to some of the nicest ones, some of the not nice ones, some of the whatever.
I just do not nice ones.
Yeah, we know that.
It rhymes with Elbab.
I I just don't like who gives a fuck.
Yeah.
Like about like, oh, I met my country club and don't.
Oh, dear, you like, I think probably the person who snitched on me for having my shirt on
talked was probably another member.
Oh, for sure.
And it's just like who gives a fuck?
Also, like if I do my Anthony Bourdain thing and don't get invited to any more country clubs,
I'm frankly OK with that.
I think I also think it's it's actually like a problem with society that people think that
if you're in these, like, if you think it's an elite kind of experience, you can't just be honest.
But a lot of these like, you know, when he's at one of these country clubs.
Yeah.
And someone's like, hey, he has his hat backwards.
Why wouldn't you say like who cares?
Yeah.
You're like, you're allowed to like question it.
Yeah.
So like it's weird.
What's interesting is is our friends have a members club and it's probably the most elite place.
I would probably argue on earth and and you could basically do whatever you want.
Whatever you want.
You're talking about a restaurant.
You're talking about bird street.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And it's like it's it's literally insane who's there.
Yeah.
It shits on any anything.
Yeah.
Any member, any country club, anything.
And you just can't take pictures.
I think we are.
But I literally just like how I'm on the podcast.
I can wear this hoodie.
Yeah.
I can wear this hoodie in the hat.
Can you imagine if you had to wear a button up tucking your shirt, that's the lamest shit ever.
And how dare you say that the fucking the fucking Caesar salad isn't great.
Yeah.
What we went to the cult is this.
Yeah.
We I mean, you can put this out if you want, but we went to the member list.
15% of the members at bird street.
Yes.
Yeah, you got to believe that out.
You should just believe about after 15% are.
It's just what else in life is that straight.
Yeah.
I agree. I think I really think it's this group of people that are just,
they've had their safe space for so long.
And they're just like, they don't want to lose control of it.
Because I get it.
If I'm like an LACC guy, I've had a good for what?
The last 300 years.
Yeah.
Okay.
You've had a good run away from the line.
You've been running the other in shirt.
What?
Why do you care about the tucked in shirt?
Because it's like, it's just, I tell you, I'm telling you how the way people think.
They've lost control of society, right?
In their view, it is abeshit is happening.
They go out to the real world and they go see what's going on.
And they're like, it starts with the tucked in shirt.
Next thing you know it, you know where it goes.
Yeah.
It's the group chat podcast.
Yeah.
You're just like, then you have a little riff-reffin.
And so I think the-
But they're still a price barrier.
I'm okay with the price barrier.
Yeah.
Here's the problem.
I was talking about this with someone who went to the Laker game the other night.
And we were talking about historically, when you saw Quartzide Laker's seats,
you kind of knew where everyone's money came from.
You knew that that guy was a movie producer, she's an actress, he's a blah, blah, blah.
And now they were talking about it last night because a bunch of them once they came,
and they were like, yeah, I mean, I think that guy sells weed.
I think that guy's-
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's like, he's like-
They don't like that.
Here's the thing is, is like, there's so many, like, historically,
the only people that made money, like real wealth are from families that came from money,
or are from a certain pedigree.
I don't like that.
Don't forget that, right?
I don't like that.
It's a story.
I agree.
It's fucked up.
All these fake liberal, rich LA people.
Yeah.
And so then what happens is, you get to this point where now you're seeing,
like, you go to a Quartzide Laker game, you see the amount of young people sitting
quartzide, like, Aiden Ross is someone that no one knows.
Prime seats.
Every game.
The best seats.
The best seats.
Him and his security are whatever.
Yeah.
Right.
And not just him, it's just like, there's just two guys that I saw at every Laker game,
every Phoenix game, every Denver game, they're everywhere.
I don't know what they do.
And I think...
Well, we got to celebrate that.
That's sick.
I know, but it's threatening them.
It's also equality.
Isn't that what we're looking for?
Everyone has an opportunity.
They're real Republican over there at the Country Clubs, these LA liberal types.
Yeah.
The problem is, is, and I get it, I understand where they're coming from.
I'm not saying that it's right, but they're just like, we have control of this 700 acres.
That's 1,000 acres in the middle of the city.
This is all we got.
I'm in a what?
Yeah.
I get it.
Yeah.
Look, I'm kidding a lot here.
I get it, but...
It's just, I think it's...
It gets a...
Like, I don't know.
I think if you're paying an arm and a leg for a Country Club, do it how you want to do it.
That's fine.
I won't go if it's not right for me.
But it's just weird when you look at it, that there is nothing else like it.
Yeah.
There is nothing.
There's nothing with that strict of address code.
There's nothing that's that expensive that people defend so harshly.
It's just strange.
I wonder.
I would love to know.
It's strange because I think he's bringing up a great point.
It's strange that there's this one bastion of society that is holding on to this.
Yeah.
We have to be tucked in, white, put her collar on,
put pants on not jeans.
And this is it.
And I don't get it.
It's strange.
It feels old.
It feels like it needs to be disrupted.
And that's the opportunity.
And they all listen to the puns.
All these Country Club guys and listen.
Yeah.
I think that I feel like something from the past.
I 100% it does.
Because think about it.
We always joke about how like...
If you went to a London members club, you have to wear like the collar.
You have to wear this.
Yeah.
But that's London.
Yeah.
It's a different society.
We don't do that here.
And in LA, you got to Bird Streets, like you said, which is
the most exclusive place in the world.
Yeah.
And the most famous and richest people in the world go to.
And it's the most safe place for those rich people and famous people.
And you can walk in with a hoodie and a hat.
Yep.
It could be...
It could be any color.
Any color.
Yeah.
There's no like looks.
Yeah.
You're not getting vibe checked.
No one cares.
No one cares.
Because in reality, in the real world, no one actually cares.
It's like if you want to actually play country club.
But they do.
Like, country club.
Like, Bird Streets is way sicker than L-A-C-C Bel Air.
Anyone.
Sure.
But yeah.
But like the...
But it's a different culture.
Yeah.
The fame of Bird Streets and the influential people that are there
every single night is bigger than any country club in Los Angeles.
Yeah.
The problem is it's the land.
LA Land CC.
You got the...
Like is it like you have the land, you make the rules?
That you're saying?
Yeah.
I think if you have land like that, you're kind of important.
You're important.
It's just...
Especially where LA...
If you live in LA and...
Or if you ever come to LA and you really want to see the land,
just to get a sense, it's like a Lion King moment.
It's like...
Go to the Waldorf Astoria.
Yeah.
Go to the rooftop in John George's restaurant.
And look at LA CC from there.
And then you're like,
fuck.
Talking to the money.
God damn it.
I'll tuck in the shirt.
Well listen, if anyone out there listening,
and one day this might happen is a big money person,
maybe has a relationship with the Saudis.
Yeah.
You know, I'm not trying to tear down...
Buff.
I'm not trying to close LA CC or Belair.
I'm trying to usher in the new era.
Yeah.
And I believe that will speak for itself.
Okay.
So...
Well before we usher in the new era,
I did have a comment about why Aunan doesn't play golf.
Okay, so our audio cut out,
we recorded like five minutes.
Yes.
And our audio cut out...
And it was incredible content.
But Dee had another sort of topic on this same topic.
He thinks I'm insecure about being bad at a sport.
Which is true.
Yeah, so...
So it dawned on me today when I was watching the...
The, you know...
Beep, beep, beep.
Michael Block guy.
You're the Tuck-in Fest.
Yeah, Tuck-in Fest and 46 year old hero, whatever.
I was like, I wonder why Aunan doesn't play golf.
And then I realized...
Yeah.
Because he sucks.
That is why I think.
And Aunan knows this.
I know I'm gonna suck.
But I think the reason why the time to actually be good and actually...
Because I, by the way, in high school,
with Eric Weiss's brother,
and I played every fucking weekend with them
at a public course in the valley for years.
And I got good enough where it was fun enough to just go and play and whatever.
Like, I was not great, but I could get through 18 holes.
Yeah.
And whether I, as I went to college, I never had any friends.
I think I'm gonna go.
Happier being just drama's...
Contiation.
I think it's a big mess.
All of Aunan's friends play golf.
Yes.
Aunan is naturally pretty athletic.
Yeah.
Good at tennis.
Tennis is actually kind of similar in a weird way.
It's a similar sort of.
But he just sucks at golf.
But he just is too...
He won't be able to stand...
being the worst of his group.
Yeah.
It's gonna be tough.
That's why.
But I'll get you on all the courses.
I know, but I want you to come with me.
We already got an invite.
Manolo.
I know, but you're not gonna come.
I'm the liaison.
Give me five years.
I'll play golf.
You can, because your kids are gonna be a little older.
You can put even you put a fucking net in your backyard.
And just when you're on the phone...
I have an invite.
You know what?
My backyard is, it's baseball.
This guy's got a million followers on TikTok.
And he invited you to go play with him.
I'm going.
But I just...
Did you text him?
Did you send me his number?
Yeah.
Did you?
I did.
Oh, shit.
No, I didn't.
I will.
Well, who is it?
You said it's some big golf influencer.
Manolo teaches golf.
He's a massive TikTok influencer.
This guy used to be a caddy.
Started, created this character.
Blew up on TikTok.
And he's a golf pro?
Or what is he?
He was just like a caddy.
I don't know.
I think that's what I heard at least.
That he was just a caddy.
And you know, the caddy's all like no golf really well.
And they created this character,
like this sort of Scarface golf thing.
And he gives tips on TikTok.
He blew up.
He's hilarious.
And now he's like doing Corona beer commercials during...
Wow.
This is Star.
He's a million followers on TikTok.
And he invited us to the point.
He has 855,000 on Instagram.
Yeah. And I'm going to go off with him.
I'm just saying how much more fun would it be?
If at least Anand was with me.
I'll be there.
Just make up your ears.
So, D, this is all I'm telling you.
And you can just...
You can ignore me.
But I've been trying to learn golf for the last two years.
Okay?
If you...
If you had a net.
And a little patch of fucking turf
that you buy at the golf store for 40 bucks.
You put it in your backyard.
You buy one club.
And you just...
When you're bored.
When Dom's out there hitting baseballs.
When whatever.
You just get used to the feel of hitting the ball.
You'll be light years ahead.
I love balls.
Well...
You sure you don't want to be worried that way?
I'm just saying,
you guys have the yard.
You're gonna...
The cool thing about golf is we can play
till we're like 80.
Yeah.
Ah.
I'm not against golf or playing golf.
I'm not like on the amount of frayed.
On the amount of frayed.
On the amount of frayed that he's gonna go out
and Eric Weiss is gonna beat his fucking ass.
You're gonna lose there.
He's gonna lose by 40 strokes, Eric.
You can't...
But I'm dealing with that currently.
But it's fine.
You know, there's a lot of people that don't want to play golf
because of Eric Weiss.
That's true.
He's holding up the sport.
My people are gonna start bringing back Eric Weiss.
Pulling him back.
Yeah, I just...
Man, it'd be so fun.
I mean, I'm just letting you guys know
I'm in the process of...
rewriting...
Golf history.
Golf culture.
And I would really love if you guys...
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
So just think about it.
If you want me to...
If you want me to just even send me your addresses,
I'll just send a couple of nets and turf to your house.
I have nets.
You have plenty of nets.
Yep.
All right.
Want to talk about news?
Let's do some news.
What do we want to talk about?
So I think a couple of interesting things happening is...
Let's just go highlight, right?
Yeah.
Instagram is now launching a Twitter competitor
as a new app in the next few weeks.
Aren't they also copying the paid verification?
Like, what are they doing?
So I think Zuck has some Elon FOMO.
It feels like it.
Elon fires 75%.
Zuck wants a fire 75%.
Yeah.
But why are you just straight up copying?
There's no innovation left over there.
I don't think you need to be.
Like...
Think about it.
He got a stock back in damn near 52 week high,
not far from an all-time high.
Yeah.
And if I'm him, that formula is working.
Cut, cut, cut.
Follow what the market wants you to say.
But they become Richard.
But he's done.
Richard, Richard.
They probably done.
He...
I agree with you on the Richard part,
so it's hard to argue,
because it's not like he's failing.
But copied stories, that worked.
Tried to copy...
I don't know if they did a be real thing or not, I forget.
Copied reels.
TikTok.
I would say didn't work.
Yeah.
I would say it did work.
What do you think reels,
copied TikTok?
I'm sure somewhere in the metric.
I'm sure.
If you looked at reels engagement,
it's meaningful impact on the business.
But what not relevant,
not like the cool thing, right?
No, I'm sure he had the TBT.
Yeah.
Cooking.
Yeah, that's my point,
is that he's going to use AI.
There's no point in like...
He doesn't have to invent something new at this point.
He just take...
He's at the Cheesecake Factory.
You go to the Cheesecake Factory.
You got every dish that's hot in the world.
They have a version of it.
And guess what?
Cheesecake Factory, people want to go to.
The only line I see anywhere in the world
is fucking Cheesecake Factory.
I get it.
I mean, look, I can't actually argue with it.
He's a Cheesecake Factory of the internet.
He's Cheesecake Factory.
And it's...
You guys think he's just literally running the mill,
like I'm the tech CEO,
and I'm just like,
Hey, I'm just going to give you whatever you like on the menu.
Yeah, you're like,
you want a salad with a lot of ranch?
One thing that's right here.
I got meta as a company has been for the last...
Yeah.
Now, I'm not saying Mark.
He's out there kicking ass and...
Bye.
I'm just saying Facebook as a company
has kind of been, to Dee's point, a little cheesecake.
That's fair for the last eight years.
I honestly think he's going to
kick some ass with this AI shit.
Maybe a version of Chatshi PT is my point.
It won't be something new.
It's different.
Elon is like creating new shit.
It's pretty amazing.
Like, we're seeing superheroes real time.
Give Sam Allman.
You have Larry and Sergey and Sundar.
You have Mark.
I think you have Elon.
I can't believe he's...
I would say Elon is the only one.
I can't believe he put Elon last.
Elon and Sam are...
I'm not saying he's last.
I'm not saying he barely even said Elon.
You said Mark and then you did this long call.
Well, Elon's not AI yet.
What?
He co-founded OpenAI!
Number one.
That's his number one.
Co-founded OpenAI named it.
Yes.
Came up with the concept for it.
Number two, he claims in that new interview
that...
Here's the best way to put it.
If OpenAI had to go figure out driverless cars,
Microsoft or Tesla had to go build OpenAI.
Tesla is much more likely to build OpenAI
than Microsoft to figure out driverless cars,
meaning Tesla already has so much AI knowledge
that he thinks that their driverless car
will be an OpenAI type moment.
He thinks their AI is just as shocking.
And...
Elon's light years ahead of Zuck.
And Zuck is trying to catch up.
I don't know if...
Technology-wise.
I would say Elon is definitely
number one in innovation.
Thank you.
There's no question.
Yeah.
That means a lot that you said.
But Zuck is probably not far behind.
He's not in the...
What is the innovate?
What is the innovate?
He hasn't done anything.
He's a thief.
Thief?
He stole Facebook!
All of those steals products and meets up with the Winkevi!
He just steals products and chokes out Indians.
That's all he does.
And you're calling him a superhero.
Think about it.
Who came up with Facebook?
Winkevi.
The Winkevi!
Who came up with stories?
Evan Spiegel.
Yes.
Who came up with reels?
Some Chinese guy.
Which is great.
But he's not an innovator.
He's an executor.
He's a fucking vicious.
That's where he can choke out these Indians.
Bring up one boom!
Boom!
Boom!
He didn't create you, Jitsu.
But damn, he's efficient.
I have no doubt that Zuck is probably the most efficient CEO
of our generation.
But he's not an innovator.
He's not.
He hasn't innovated anything.
He's a thief.
You're going to make a Twitter knockoff.
Like where was your Twitter knockoff?
But what's up?
This is what I don't get.
Where was your Twitter knockoff?
When Twitter was not...
Well, not even that.
The last 15 years.
Anytime within it,
when Twitter was a great product but not innovating,
he could have revolutionized,
hey, I'm going to make a Twitter,
but I'm going to actually innovate.
Do you want to see a fun fact?
You want to see NBC interview, right, with Elon?
Yeah, David Faber.
What?
Yeah, with David Faber.
Did you see the way Elon just pauses?
Yeah, to think.
Until he wants to respond to the question.
Yeah, I like it.
That's a very powerful person.
I actually don't see anyone else do that.
You know who you should do that?
Because that's why you innovate.
Hitler.
Oh my god.
That's something Anand should have said.
We're team Elon.
I know, but...
So in AP government,
we had a whole World War two thing.
This is something I pause getting the what?
We had a whole World War two thing.
He just compared to Elon's.
If it literally remembered my AP government,
we were watching a speech
from World War two that Hitler did.
And we were studying it for whatever reason.
And one of the thing the callouts was
he had that he was like an order that would like...
Can't speak to this.
Pause and have confidence over like...
He would not say a word for minutes.
And what resonated with me at that time was
if you could go speak when you know there's an audience listening.
And have like a pause.
It's a very powerful thing.
Because everyone's waiting on your word.
I'm not saying Elon Musk is anything to do with Hitler.
It's a pretty weird comparison,
but I thought it was pretty insane on live television.
Yeah.
He just pauses.
Yeah, he doesn't care.
And he...
15 seconds.
I think it's computing.
He's computing.
And one time when he paused really long and then he was like...
I'm reminded of the movie Princess Bride.
Yeah.
He's like great movie.
Where'd you pull that out of him?
The open AI, man.
Elon also announced he's up to six hours and now he's asleep.
He's realizing...
That's shocking.
That's shocking.
Yeah.
I'm surprised.
Yeah.
He's realizing he said his brain was hurting.
And that he needed a little bit more sleep.
He probably physically feels pain.
I saw him.
He was like in Cabo at the Solomon Show last weekend.
It's insane.
Right after we talked about...
Dancing.
Yeah, he was dancing his face off.
Right after we talked about...
That's what I'm saying.
Like, you...
Innovation also comes from like people that are like living life to the fullest.
And so that's why like when you look at like...
Zach will end up being the richest man ever.
Elon will end up being the most innovative person ever.
In my opinion.
Innovation and wealth doesn't...
But man, if like SpaceX goes public and then some things happen there,
I mean, Elon's wealth could be...
Brilliant.
Unheard of.
Yeah.
It could jump so fast.
Yeah.
Mark's would have to like kind of slowly snowball.
It just selling ads to sucker DC company.
He's just ripping off other tech companies selling ads to sucker G.
He's just gonna be selling ads on SpaceX.
Blender.
I hate the sucker G.
He's not innovative.
On I think you take some Jabs at Elon.
I think we take some Jabs at Zuck.
You know, I think we all agree they're both superheroes.
Yep.
One's a copycat.
One's an innovator.
Yeah.
No big deal.
No big deal.
We're not judging.
I love Zuck.
I'm Team Zuck.
Yeah.
Should we watch the movie of all the things he stole?
Yeah.
We watch it and see if you're still Team Zuck.
After you know he's a thief.
Speaking of theory, do you guys watch...
You guys don't watch boxing, huh?
I actually watched the boxing match.
Funny thing, I think...
I don't watch any boxing matches.
I think Zuck was one of the judges because they stole the fight.
From Lomachinko.
So I watch the fight and I admittedly don't know anything about boxing.
Yeah.
And I was like, this guy be disaster.
Lomachinko.
Yes.
Yes.
That's what everyone thought.
Even people who know boxing really, really well.
He would stand more than me.
He would stand more than me.
And wait, he was crying than he lost.
Yeah, you saw my pose.
Yeah, I saw him.
So here's the story.
Devin Haney, Young Buck, NextUp, 30 and O or something.
25 years old.
Maybe one of the next stars.
Vasily Lomachinko.
35 years old.
Life dream is to have a be undisputed champion.
He's never had it.
This is probably his last shot.
He took a year off from fighting to go fight for his homeland, Ukraine.
When fought in the war, came back,
battled ring rust as they call it.
I know they're not even winning the war either.
It's a different topic.
We're not going to go in there.
There was some leaked papers over at the Pentagon.
But I know you, my guys,
or came into this guy.
Then he came back.
He fucking got back in shape, got everything together.
Has this fight, this is his last chance, his life dream.
That's it.
Devin Haney, he can lose this.
He can come back later and fucking do all this.
They, Lomachinko won the fight and lost by you.
Everything's fixed.
No, doing funny is I watched the fight on a phone at a friend's housewarming thing.
It seems like you were really engaged in that.
And the person that I was watching with was a guy that is into Jiu Jitsu,
into combat sports.
From the Ukraine.
Yeah, and Ukraine.
And he was like,
bought in the war.
Oh, Haney's done.
Done.
He's like, he's done.
Look at his legs.
Look at, he's like coaching me through the fight.
And I'm watching it.
I was like, look, I agree.
They zucked him.
Okay.
They stole it.
They just stole it.
It's fine.
But now it's so sad because that's why there's videos of this guy crying,
is because now this guy is a legend.
Like we'll be in the boxing Hall of Fame.
I don't see a world where he ever gets a shot to unify the belts again.
And that's it.
Too bad.
Yeah.
Sorry.
It was definitely a fraud.
Okay.
Sorry.
It's a rama chain.
Also.
And also.
The way that like boxing works, or kind of UFC a little bit, but more so boxing is like.
UFC, you're okay to lose.
And you get to get next big fight.
But also like the way that like Dana White, like if you lost in the UFC,
but like then you go have a couple more good fights,
he'll put you back in for another shot.
With boxing, it doesn't really work that way.
Everyone's kind of on to the next thing, especially at 35.
You know, he's going to age quickly now.
Every year is going to be very detrimental.
And there's just nothing you can do.
Like if LeBron like had a bad loss in the finals.
Well, now LeBron's a little older, but like even now,
you'd be like, well, maybe next year.
You know he's going to be have a shot next year.
I don't think Vasily Loma Chica will ever have another shot.
And.
That's a shame.
That sucks.
That's a.
This is life dream.
Does it look like he beat the shit out of them?
He did.
Yeah, but you play a sport where it's rigged.
So.
And when I knew it was rigged, it's.
Haney stood up on the ring.
Like I won.
That's like you won.
They told them.
They told them they gave him the script.
But let me tell you the the coaching in boxing is.
No matter what you do.
No matter what you do that, because the judges are telling up their scores.
And they might be like, that kind of looks a little happier.
Profitable.
Healthier.
Yeah.
Because he's fucking idiots.
I mean, look at the guys who's judging.
Yeah.
Zuck and his two buddies.
And you got it.
You might be able to convince them.
I mean, if we're worrying about.
Legislation in Congress on AI.
Had we have any faith in the boxing judges?
Oh, yeah.
There's no way.
There's no way.
Yeah, I mean.
To that point.
No chance.
The boxing judges might want to take a shot at the AI or legislation.
They should.
They might do a better job.
Well, I think like we're at such a point in life in society where like everything is so out of whack.
Today.
Sockingly, it's the second most popular article on Wall Street Journal.
It's been trending all day, but.
There was an article that came out on the Wall Street Journal today that said that Bill Gates.
On his boy.
On his boy.
On his boy.
All right. You were saying like great guy.
Great guy.
Yeah.
Superhero.
Superhero.
You were saying to like the Jeffrey Epstein stuff.
It isn't.
It's not great, but like not doesn't look like a smoking gun to you.
No.
My thing.
My point is basically like.
What's your point?
Great guy.
That's here.
Had a couple weird friends.
We all have weird friends, right?
That's what you said.
We have a lot of weird friends.
We did.
I don't know.
We did.
I don't know.
We did.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Who are our weird friends are.
Do you know.
Do you know.
Do you do any of your friends having a fair with like a 19 year old bridge player from Russia
above age and a bridge player like above age.
Above age.
Some people like, you know, athletic girls, some people like volleyball players.
I've heard of that.
That's a sucker for a bridge player.
So we now know.
Tucker for a sharp mind.
What Jeffrey Epstein had over Bill Gates.
Is this a fact or is this like one of those allegedly situations?
This is a wolfian church.
This is the one page of the wall.
They're not a diligent.
They're on the wall tree journal app right now.
It's the first or yes.
They are.
They're staking their fucking.
They're going to click bait.
Yeah.
Okay.
So if they can say it, we can say it.
Yeah, of course.
And that's the only reason why I felt comfortable even talking about it.
Look at this.
Front page of Wall Street Journal.
All right.
We're nothing.
Okay.
Go ahead.
So it felt weird to even say.
No, no, that's where I read it.
I got the notification this morning Sunday.
Sunday morning Wall Street Journal to me is like.
A very sacred piece of content.
Like it's always like, I actually really enjoy it.
It's always really incredible content.
Okay.
That was the push notification I got.
Wow.
Obviously I read it.
And well, it's about a young woman that was like a, like a very successful bridge player
as a high school student going into college.
And basically Jeff, Bill Gates is a bridge guy, big bridge guy.
Of course he is.
It's sort of like some guys are like suckers for like IG models.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's just, and he's a nerd.
Like to see this coming bridge chick from football.
You see her hands.
They're so fast.
Okay.
I don't even know what bridge is by the way.
I have no idea what bridge.
It's like, don't we get a bridge either?
Bill Gates.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think I remember vividly playing in India with like our Ants bridge.
Back in the day, but I don't remember how I get a chest.
Yeah.
Get bridge.
It's a card game.
I just know it's the game that Warren Buffett and Bill Gates play all the time.
So whatever they play it.
She ends up meeting Bill Gates as like a bridge, whatever player.
The British.
The British.
The British.
Yeah.
And she has a post in her social media.
I was like, like basically, who is that?
Like, look what I'm playing.
They clearly had a relationship and Jeff Rhapsine caught wind and basically used it
to blackmail Bill Gates into helping one.
He was trying to raise a charitable foundation with JP Morgan where he needed like an anchor
investor and he wanted Bill Gates to do it.
Bill Gates eventually never did it.
But I think this is with Jeffrey Epstein's MO.
How do you have this power?
I still don't get it.
What do you know?
I don't get how Epstein knew all these billionaires.
Well, by the way, and was able to convince them to do all these different things.
You know, read the article.
You read the article.
I read the article.
He basically paid for this woman's school to go to engineering school.
And Jeffrey Epstein did it.
Yes.
And he knew that she had an affair with Bill Gates.
How did he know?
How did he know?
What?
How did he know?
I'm sure from her.
So my question is how does Jeffrey Epstein know?
He's playing the line with black Bill Gates.
I think he's got his own little membership club, if you know what I mean.
Yeah.
Like I bet you if you're Bill Gates, look, this is completely speculating as hard as a guy can
speculate.
But like, let's look on the positive side.
We know Bill went to the island.
Yep.
Maybe he didn't partake with any underage women, but maybe that's where he met
met up with the bridge player so that he would be out of public eye,
not get seen.
We know that place was filled with cameras.
Maybe that was also part of the amount.
Maybe it all wasn't.
I guess my question is basically like, how did Jeffrey Epstein?
But that was his business.
I think that's what he did.
This business with blackmail.
Yeah.
Bill Clinton, Bill Gates.
He knew.
He knew.
He knew.
Think about it.
I think he said about it.
What is the most powerful?
It's just like, no, no, I'm just going to give girls and all of a sudden.
I'm meeting the richest of the people.
You obviously don't know how the world works.
Think about the people we know in this video.
You're an idiot.
The job it is to create girls and fun environments for rich and famous people.
Of course.
Now if you did that on steroids, I think you're Jeffrey Epstein.
Yeah.
I think if you had a house in the hills where everyone went,
you know you could go there, you know you could hook up with girls.
Every room has cameras in it.
Blah, blah, blah.
And they say, hey, D, you know last weekend with the game,
blah, blah, blah.
I love video here.
Why don't you help me?
You're using me.
Yeah, D.
D is a problem, Bill.
Any of us.
I saw you last weekend, blah, blah, blah.
Why don't you hook me up with, you said you know someone over at L.A.C. right?
Yeah.
I'd love to play there.
Yeah.
There you go.
I need that stuff right up.
You know, if you could tear down someone's life and we know, we know that that is,
if you're heading, do that to the highest level of society.
What are you talking about?
Guys are horny.
No, I get that.
Stop that.
I'll just put it up.
You think Bill Clinton and it's-
You hold these guys to some high standards.
No, I'm not holding them to any standards.
They're horny.
I wake up and Dick's heart, they went fuck.
They like bridge.
I see a hot bridge player, they're like, oh, Jeff, can I use that?
Yeah, yeah.
Epstein getting that circle.
That's what I don't get.
What's the circle?
You get- dude, you know how many club promoters in L.A.?
The way he's dead.
Did you have for Epstein?
A billion.
I think-
That's my point.
He was just a promoter that was like-
He was like, you know what?
Yeah.
Oh, that's it?
He was a- if you gave- you gave ex-club promoter $5 billion.
They're Jeffery Epstein in one year.
Yeah.
Six months.
Yeah.
What week?
And I think- I thought part of the story was that Galaine Maxwell was like,
dad was really connected and she knew a lot of high society people.
That's how he got along.
Well, look, I mean-
I think-
I think-
I think what Jeffery Epstein-
I'm just saying is an issue.
I'm just saying.
In the article-
Part of the article was that Jeffrey Epstein had set up a meeting with
very powerful people in Norway regarding Bill Gates getting the Nobel Peace Prize for curing polio.
You're Bill Gates and you are this close.
Like, money does not matter.
So you're this close to getting the Nobel Peace Prize.
Yeah.
This guy might take you to the promised land.
Yeah.
He's got some dirt on you.
Yeah.
You shut the fuck up.
It's just- it is what it is.
It's- it's-
That's what happened.
I agree.
I agree.
I- I- I- to me it seems clear as day.
And I think it's actually positive because-
I- I think it's clear as day in the mechanics of it.
Yeah.
100 percent.
Yeah.
I just don't know how he got in this world.
It's not that hard.
I think-
It's not as hard as you think.
You're- you're not-
You're like overthinking how hard it is to get into any circle.
It's not that hard.
I think he's just like the-
Like I almost said the best, but a positive word doesn't seem good here.
But like I think he's like the biggest.
Like there's so many people who-
do you know connect people with a good time.
I think his was really dark and I think he's the biggest.
I also think he possibly is connected to some sort of intelligence.
Yeah.
Agency or something.
That-
Do you really believe that?
I actually-
I do.
Hold on one.
I do.
100 percent.
I really do think he's like CIA.
Yeah.
Or Mossad.
Yeah.
Wow.
Someone else said that.
Let me-
Can you hear me?
Can you hear me?
Get in the hole.
Get in the hole.
What you can control.
Okay.
What?
What?
This is fun.
What?
This is getting fun.
No.
How does it get it?
How does it get on?
How does it get on?
He's such an idealist.
He thinks everything just works the way it works.
He says-
Well, but he seems pretty asleep right now.
He's very asleep.
He's so asleep.
He thinks there's no chance that a person-
This is getting good.
Listen.
Listen.
Listen.
Listen.
What I want you to listen before you talk instead of just talking over me.
Listen for a second.
Listen.
Listen.
Do you think if-
There was an organization that realized that you could
take advantage of people because of a weakness they all have,
that you would do it.
We're doing-
China's doing it with TikTok today, right?
They-
I was watching a TikTok-
I was watching TikTok today and I was thinking to myself.
I was like, can you imagine
you're some-
A government official in China and you're looking at these
dumb ass American kids literally like dancing half naked to a camera all day.
You don't think like-
That could be-
Can you imagine what the data of TikTok must look like when you look at it as a whole?
Yes.
And so similarly, if you look at what happened with Jeff R. Epstein,
the thing is it's so insanely calculated, like to your point,
how does this guy get with Bill Gates, Bill Clinton,
fucking everyone who has ever in my own power.
He must have had some help.
He's not that smart.
So-
Yeah, you agree.
All right, let's put you both on the record.
Yeah, we're on.
Both on the record.
Yeah.
You guys are basically saying that the CIA-
Not CIA.
Any intelligence agency.
All right, fine.
NSA, CIA-
I would say most likely CIA or Mossad, but could be any-
Mossad's Israeli intelligence agency.
Any-
Any-
Okay.
Before it-
It could be foreign.
So they-
They need him billions of dollars.
Or hundreds of millions of dollars to host all these guys.
No.
And that's how he got all these guys.
Is that what you guys are saying?
No, no, no.
I think that's way too simple.
Yeah.
Like, I think that-
I think also like-
What's his name?
Victoria Secret?
Love him, money.
He had some money.
He had some money to invest and Lee on Black and blah, blah, blah.
I don't know that the CIA-
So walk me through how it worked.
Well-
I think they realized-
I'm not-
I realized this guy had some clout.
No, I want you to walk me through how Jeffrey Epstein got to all these powerful people.
Can I tell you girls?
What-
You know-
Autumn, you know-
You know successful people.
What is their everyone's weakness?
I did it.
Admit it.
What is everyone?
Every rich man on earth's weakness.
Stay the words.
It's hot fucking girls.
Okay, so I want to know how the CIA and the NSA are involved.
Because they realized that.
Do you-
I just asked you-
Do you know any powerful people?
Any rich people?
No.
You don't.
So you-
You-
You should not talk about this.
You have no idea.
You're not in our world.
Let me tell you every powerful man's weakness-
One of the biggest-
Give me-
Give me-
Take the only time that I ever-
In the history of my making content,
which has been now 15 years.
The only time I ever got asked more about-
Than I do about golf.
From-
From rich and successful people-
Was when we had the reckless girls.
Yes.
That's the only other time that it was more than golf.
People would say,
Hey, does drama actually like-
Hang out with all those girls?
Yes.
Hey, what's going on with all those girls?
Same.
Hey, if I would have said,
Hey, you know what I got a little house here?
You guys can come on over and-
You want to meet some of these reckless girls?
Yeah.
I could have been, you know,
I don't want to say the words, but-
I have seen-
I just say, and I could have been working with the CIA by now.
Yeah.
You're over-complicating how stupid guys are.
Guys are the simplest-
Come on over-complicating it.
Guys are the dumbest people in the world.
There's no bill-
Bill gets-
Look, we know a lot of people who do-
You don't think Bill gets-
Bill gets kind of manipulated by someone
that just wanted to be around-
Well, we know a lot of people in this world.
Yeah.
We're not like naive.
You are naive.
You're acting new.
You are.
You keep-
You're like,
You think someone could manipulate it, Bill gets?
I look-
Of course they could not.
Bill!
Why couldn't they do it privately?
Why would they?
Wait, what?
No, why couldn't Bill just do it privately?
Because he's a-
He's the richest guy in the world.
He still likes to party and hang out.
Yeah, no, I agree.
But he could-
He has the means to do it privately.
Everybody gets caught.
You know that, right?
But you mean like just one-on-one with the bridge player, for instance?
No, I'm saying one-on-one being like-
The whole operation is just dialed.
Oh, I just don't think-
You're over-thinking it.
I think you have googly eyes.
You have googly eyes for a hot young bridge player.
You slip up.
You have a couple of cocktails.
You go to-
You do dumb shit!
Yeah.
That's it.
You get caught up.
You think people are so cackling no hats?
You know how many people have gotten-
Wait, you know how many people that you know or have heard of
in this city have got caught cheating?
100% of people get caught.
And every time is something pretty fucking stupid.
It's like, oh, you left your iPad on,
and you're home while you were texting.
I agree, but like, I'm just-
On the things everyone just like CIA like figured everything out.
No!
They get a couple beers,
builds up the bars, like, I want to plop, and that's it!
It's over.
Oh, Bill, yeah.
I think-
It's not that complicated.
I think you're about to-
It's literally that simple.
You think it's that stupid?
I think it is.
Hey, Jeffery Epstein caught wind that he's like,
I can manipulate people because-
I know!
We know a lot of famous people that do this stuff and never get caught.
Okay, well, listen.
Do you want to know who knows-
It's different.
You want to know who knows all of their secrets.
Club promoters.
Yeah.
100%.
And I'm saying that Jeffery Epstein here is the club promoter to billionaires.
He knows all their secrets.
Biggest differences?
They go to him to party.
They go to him with the dirty-
It's not the fact that famous people, rich people,
hook up with girls.
That's not the problem.
It's that these guys are married with kids and come off very righteous
and have a persona.
Bill Clinton married with kids,
present United States.
Who cares if it's a celebrity that is single and has hooks up with girls?
Nobody cares about that.
I mean, Bill Clinton was getting sucked off in the White House
by a fucking-
Bill Trenton.
Sorry.
Bill Clinton.
You're telling me that rich, famous people don't make stupid mistakes?
That's the most powerful person ever.
Yeah.
I'm saying Bill fell-
Pre-social media, pre-iPhone.
Yeah, and he got caught.
But I think this stuff from Gates was-
Jeffery Epstein's heyday was pre-social media.
I think the biggest problem with Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein's connections
is that it was post Jeffrey Epstein getting arrested, going to jail.
Dying.
Yeah.
No, no.
It's like, no, like him-
Like he knew he was a bad guy.
It's like 2010, 2011.
The bridge thing was post that.
There's no excuse to be like, I had no idea he was doing this.
It's just like you're the person of that stature.
I would assume everyone's validating everyone that you meet with.
It's just shocking the number of powerful people that are connected with this guy.
You just don't understand-
He's like bigger than any-
I think the shocking part here is not how many people vote what.
Just how much guys are suckers for girls?
Yes.
That's the answer.
That's it.
It's not that complicated.
The guy's throwing part of-
I mean Peter Thiel's part of it.
That would leak this weekend.
But what was he doing exactly?
Because I also think-
That's why I also think.
This is- I'm just saying what I think.
Is he also met-
Like it was his-
What he did all day was met with famous and rich people.
I don't think all of those people were flying to the island and-
Even Bill Gates, it's not clear that he had anything to do with-
What Jeffrey Epstein effectively got arrested for.
But what Jeffrey Epstein was really good at was using any little bit of information
about people and manipulating them.
That's what he was doing.
I mean it's unclear that Bill Gates participated in anything else.
It's just that the guy had an affair with this bridge player.
He was just a tutor.
I'm just-
Yeah, I'm not even saying he definitely-
But you did that bridge!
I'm not saying he definitely did any underage-
Illegal-
Yeah, I actually don't think he did.
I think he got busted on this.
And this guy used it to his advantage.
But I also think like look I'm just trying to like have some fun here with some common sense.
Like if you're going to the island,
the island is obviously like billionaire Vegas.
Yeah.
No rules.
And you are cheating.
Like you probably like-
What's crazy is his-
There was a Jay-Z or Kelly video shot at the fucking island.
Yeah.
Did you see that?
You didn't see that?
His guy is like on top of everything.
How does he have everyone?
That's what I don't get.
That's why you should believe that he is intelligent.
Because CAA is probably like you know what?
That Jay-Z guy!
He's going somewhere.
Well let me tell you this.
Let me tell you this.
Even if he wasn't intelligent to start-
Because that one is about 2001 or four, right?
That's what I'm saying.
Is it a music video?
Is it a music video?
Yes!
I think it's like Fiesta.
One of those like somewhat crazy.
Well look Jay-Z is on the island.
All that I'm saying is-
Damn that's sketchy.
Especially because it's with our Kelly.
All I'm saying is even if he wasn't like CAA or intelligence to start,
the smartest thing that the CAA could do.
The CAA thing is basically like hey let's just give this guy tons of money.
No no no.
You're looking at it two like one way or the other.
Yeah.
I'm saying that I think that there's a chance that in his travels of all these rich and famous people,
he also made contacts in an intelligence agency.
And the smartest thing any intelligence agency could do is say,
let's partner up with this dude.
He's just bringing him Prince Andrew and Prince whatever the heck and this and that.
Yeah.
And we could control so many donations.
Maybe we need our campaign funding.
Think about it.
Well what's more exclusive than hanging out with those types of people?
There's nothing.
They control the world.
100% of you.
So I'm just saying you-
So I'm just saying you-
I'm trying to basically connect the dots.
That you think the government CAA in some sort of back channel was like,
wow this guy knows everyone and let's fund him.
Yeah.
Or I don't-
Because we know some promoters in LA that know everyone.
Are they getting their CAA?
Yes, yeah.
I hate it.
No I'm not getting their names but there's a few people that know literally everyone.
Yeah.
And I bet you if we said like hey you know,
are guys really that stupid when it comes to girls?
They'd be like absolutely.
Yes.
But I can tell you that.
I can do that.
The story hasn't been cheating.
What's-
Why can't you believe all these things happen?
What's out landage?
Guys are-
No, nothing's out landage.
Guys who aren't dubbing-
You just connect the dots that you think it's the CAA that was like-
Wow.
But let me give you my honest answer.
My honest answer, this isn't good for content,
is I have no idea.
But I think that that level of like lawlessness and slap on the wrist for terrible crimes and
mysteriously committing suicide or dying.
I just think it feels-
But to be clear, I'll be honest.
Like if you're the CAA, you're being irresponsible if you're not funding
the best promoters in Hollywood.
So maybe they are?
Well, I think you probably just gave a little tip.
Maybe you are the CAA.
Yeah.
But even-
Try the weekends.
I was just asking you more when you keep talking about that.
Yeah, yeah.
How warm was that?
I don't-
I mean, why wouldn't you?
Yeah, sure.
I think they're now-
They got the best promoter of all time.
Said now they're all in on it.
Yeah.
I think you're probably right.
But I think-
By the way, like-
I think these club promoters are-
Like their contacts are celebrities and like-
Billionaires.
L.A. Billionaires.
But I think that like-
They're not in New York too.
Atsteines were like world movers.
But New York's billionaires too.
I know, but I don't know-
I mean, look, I think you're kind of right here.
But I think that like-
Epstein was a crossroads between world-moving billionaires,
political people, and like scientists.
Who's getting the hookers in Davos?
Like who's paying for it?
I mean, it's been reported.
See, me seem reported.
Is there a whole person-
Who's personally getting them?
Yes.
Who's paying for them?
No, I don't care who's paying for them.
Who is organizing the hookers in Davos?
I think they know the same way-
No, they're just-
No, they're just-
The same way strippers know to go to Vegas
during a big fight.
I think so.
You like overthink things.
Pretty simple.
I think you know,
I think it's literally like a Mayweather fight in Vegas.
You're like okay, we got-
All the strippers go.
Think about it.
Do you think how many guys just show up to a city?
Because something's happening
because I think they might meet a rich and powerful guy.
Propriest like women for a second.
How many girls do that?
Oh, how many guys?
For networking you mean?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, oh, it's all-star weekend.
Oh, it's, you know,
milk in conference or whatever it is.
Guys show up everywhere.
Yeah.
You don't think-
But it's like guys are so-
I think if you're a proff the two.
No, it's an organized thing.
So there's an Epstein there.
Because the Davos hooker thing is like very widely reported
and-
No, why do you think it has to be organized?
There could be like a-
like a madam that they-
Sort of so they know.
You don't think-
You know what you are?
You're condescending to women.
Because you don't think women watch NBC and they're like,
oh, Davos, I'm going there.
Same way it got-
You know these dorks that show up to like,
South by South was like,
oh, who raised my foot?
No, no, no, no.
Same thing.
Same thing.
A girl's going there and being like,
I know these dorks are gonna spend a bunch of money.
Listen to Morgan Wallen fucking-
I'm like, I can take his ass for money.
Yeah.
Clean house.
You could probably go to Davos for one weekend
and not work the rest of the year.
Right?
Rest of your life.
Yeah.
But I'm sure that like to your point on it,
I think you are like over analyzing it.
There's gotta be some way that these guys know
what the list is.
Here's an honest problem, I'm gonna be honest.
I can't wait to hear-
On it holds these like people.
These intelligent, successful rich people.
On this pedestal that they're so above everything.
Yeah.
I don't-
I actually don't.
They're horny fucking scumbags.
That's one of the main things I learned from Epstein
is like man, judgment.
That's me from the-
Yeah.
Is that-
No, but I actually don't.
I actually don't.
I don't hold that.
Then why would you think-
Entirely perspective.
Why do you think about the mechanics?
You guys are saying it's a coordinated event from the CIA
that's funding Epstein.
That's funding the CIA.
It's that easy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I agree.
You pick a person, we could take them down in a week.
100%.
Pick a person.
I agree with that.
With that.
Pick a human being.
We could all take them down.
Yeah.
No, but I just want to clarify my statement.
What I learned from the Epstein event
is that the smartest-
You just want to have seen you.
The smartest people in the world
will just throw everything out the window for a fucking girl.
Yeah.
Yes.
No, I agree with that.
100%.
That's not like something-
But that's it.
That's it.
You're-
I just don't get the CIA connection.
Because CIA realizes that that-
Geysers that stupid guys are dumb
as shit.
Like if you had access, if you had-
Okay.
Let's just say-
Well, what would a guy throw anything away for?
It's only a girl.
Can you imagine this what I'm saying?
If you're anyone, if you're a government,
if you're a rich person,
if you're anyone with any agenda.
One of the most priceless things that you can get
is the list of people that Jeffrey Epstein had blackmail on.
Sure.
That list, having blackmail on those particular people
is absolutely priceless and something that money cannot buy.
And I think that to think that an intelligence agency
wouldn't have helped craft that or tap into that-
It would be smart.
Yes.
And I think that the way that he was completely immune to law.
And I think that like, look, honestly, if I'm being really honest,
I don't think Bill Gates can get someone killed in prison.
I don't.
I don't think he has that ability.
I think that takes high-level government-connected people.
And it reeks of something higher like that than Bill Gates.
Yeah.
I don't-
As much as I can say, oh, he fucking had too many rich and powerful people.
Leon Black cannot get a guy choked out to death in prison.
They don't have that ability in a high-level maximum security prison.
That takes the government being involved on some level.
Maybe it was just the prison warden and somebody knew him and whatever.
But I think-
You think someone made the call?
I do.
I'm not arguing with you on that point.
That guy.
Did I convince you?
No, no, no.
That part I agree with.
Yeah.
I agree with the fact that he was randomly-
You didn't think you committed suicide.
100% not.
He definitely got killed.
I don't believe-
But we've got to go to the next question then is who had the power to-
The question was 10 years-
15 years prior who was orchestrating this whole thing.
That's what-
But I don't have-
My next question is if you think undeniably,
if you think this, that he was killed and didn't commit suicide.
Who has the power to make that happen?
Yeah.
No, I agree with the one that-
I think we both landed on intelligence.
No, my point is 15 years prior,
who's funding his operation?
And you're saying it's the government-
No, no, no, I'm not.
Just to be clear, I'm not.
I'm saying-
I also don't know.
I don't think the government gave him a billion dollars and said go nuts.
I don't quite understand that part either.
But maybe they did.
But I don't think so.
I mean, it's pretty insane that this guy just got some young girls
and got the most powerful people in the world.
It's that simple.
That's how stupid guys are.
Guys are the dumbest.
It's really bad.
We're literally the bad-
We're the cavemen.
You give us a banana and we're like,
Whoa!
We're the thrower all live.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Literally.
My whole life down the train.
For a bridge player.
Yes.
Nobody even knows what bridge is.
Literally.
I started to read what it was and it's so stupid.
It's so boring.
I couldn't even-
I tried to read it.
I couldn't-
It's like a strategic card or a strategic card.
Brr, brr, brr.
So he was that strategic?
What?
He knew which the girl knows.
No, no, no, no, no, no. I think that just happened.
He knew that that happened
and he knew that he was married with kids
and he took advantage of it.
That's it.
Once again,
club promoter in LA might not have set up the celebrity with a girl,
but he knows he hears the stories.
He knows what's going on.
He just-
When your ear is to the dirt.
Yeah.
So he's the best promoter of all time.
Look, once again, I don't like the word best, but he-
He's-
Maybe a successful guy.
I don't like that word.
He's-
When it comes to like-
Being a sort of wizard of the trash lands.
Yeah, manipulator.
He's the-
That's all he did.
He realized that every powerful person he interacted with had a weakness.
In his case, specifically around women,
he-
He must have been a charming guy.
You know what I don't get though, is why the underage?
You know?
Because like if you're a good one-
Because he knew that was illegal, right?
And he wanted to catch them doing illegal stuff.
Exactly.
I actually don't think it was-
That's all it.
It was intentional other than that.
He's just cheating, isn't it?
He's like, oh, you-
He's like, hey, so-and-so billionaire.
You're with the 17-year-old.
I just want to let you know.
And then you're not going to fuck the guy that like-
I think he's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He basically used to this bait.
Yeah.
Because my whole thing was like, this guy is obviously like the worst person on earth.
But the main reason why is because of the underage thing.
Yeah.
You know?
And so I was thinking like, why the underage thing?
But yeah, you're right.
Okay.
Well, shit.
And we're never going to learn anything about it.
These Sunday episodes are fucking incredible.
Yeah.
Uh, what?
We're never going to learn anything about it.
We're going to-
Never learn-
That's what sucks.
We're going to get little crumbs for the next decade though.
Because people are, you know, you get this Wall Street Journal story.
I'm banking on Joe Rogan.
But how would he ever find out?
I don't know.
You got to get Gellain.
Gellain knows- This is a crazy thing.
Gellain is still alive and knows-
Everything.
Every detail.
Yeah.
That's wild.
Yeah.
I don't know what to do with that information.
I was the most powerful person on earth ever.
It is.
I can't believe she's still alive.
I know.
She's in jail too, huh?
Yeah.
Supposedly.
She might be part of the-
Like is she sitting in a jail?
So there's no way, right?
All you have to do also has to do is call her.
Yeah.
Like, yo, tell me some stuff.
And at this point you're in jail.
Why would you just tell?
That's what I'm saying.
Okay.
All right.
I mean-
All of an episode.
I mean, we fucking started at country clubs and ended up at Epstein.
Holy shit.
Because anything-
We're in trouble.
We didn't say anything fucked up, right?
I don't think so.
Yeah, just always like to-
I-
If you guys hear this voice, I said nothing.
D, accuse me of being woke.
That's all that happened.
You're what?
Oh, you.
I mean-
I used to be in sleep actually on this episode.
You're sleepy as fuck.
You're tired this week.
Sleeping beauty.
All right.
Well, there's a lot of other news, but we'll get to it-
Never, yeah.
On Wednesday, these were the biggest topics.
And I mean, to me, it felt like a hell of an episode.
I don't know.
I loved it.
Yeah.
This is great.
All right.
Any shout outs?
Shout out.
Just stay safe.
Stay alive.
Stay safe.
Stay safe and listen.
What?
Oh, yeah.
June 6th, we're going to do our event for all the Chatey
Cathy Club members, Venice Beach, Los Santo House,
in the Discord, all the details.
We have endless tequila.
We're going to have some food.
I'm going to actually make some special merch.
I'm going to have Eric make some merch.
Handmade right there.
We're printing it.
Yeah.
In labor.
I think it hurts.
You got to take advantage of Eric until he gives up.
Yeah.
Eric's good for the two months before he tells me the fuck off.
I think by July, Eric's burnt out.
All right.
Well, hey, get the merch while you can,
because soon we won't have anyone to make it.
Shopnewrepublic.com.
Do we still have the camel hats?
We have the camel hats.
Camel hats.
And we'll see the hoodies and all that.
Yeah.
So June 6th, come out.
If you're in the club, it'll be fun.
It's LA Tech Week.
And we should have a good turnip.
Right?
Good deal.
Good.
All right.
Everyone have a great week.
Stay safe out there.
Stay sleep.
Stay sleep.
Better that way.
We'll see you.
We'll see you on Wednesday.
Bye.
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