Zuck, The People's Champ | Group Chat News Ep. 786
Hey, guys. Welcome to Group Chat. We're here with some news and we'd like to get you all caught up and ready for the rest of the week and to sail into the weekend.
Got a good one. We got a good one. We got a lot to talk about. It is our midweek episode, which is now when we end with winners, losers and content. So you have that at the end. And then, you know, we're talking about inflation. Things are booming.
Elon has thrown his hat in the ring, not with Zuckerberg, because he's ripped and hanging out with UFC stars, but with AI.
So x.ai. Elon is entering the AI. What's the motivation? That's what we retried to debate. That's what we're going to debate. What's the motivation behind the old Elon here? And I have a little bit of different perspectives, but starting to get a little crazy.
Yeah, and then a lot of other news. And like I said, we end with our winners, losers, content. We got a good episode for you. You ready? Let's go. Let's do it.
Members 10. Yeah, that's where I belong. Wow. I mean, fresh out of the members. 10. I see you got your merch.
Your head to toe, huh? Yeah, I got, I got the t-shirt on, got the hat on courtesy of Eric Deluxe. Javier, wait, got, got me my merch yesterday. You know, I belong in all members' tents except for the boys. That's the one tent that I just can't get out. That's the tent that's like the most the toughest to get into. Yeah, tough.
The boys over in Venice tough crowd. But good thing there's stuff. Yeah, but I mean, I get it. That's a tough tent. Is that stuff for sale?
It's it has been for sale and shipping this week. So people have been buying for the last 10 days, I think.
Been great feedback, great sales. So everyone who's purchased, they're shipping this week. So you should get any day now.
So, you know, rock your members tent and be proud. The group chat members 10 is the hottest 10 of them all.
We definitely got to do like something with this, you know, like maybe next time we do an event, we have a little tent.
You know, because it's one of the few times like my friends, you know, they're not like Jen's ears. They're obviously my age. Yeah, we're all turning 40 this year. And
everyone wants it. Everyone has been texting me for it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you live in a member's tent sort of crowd. Yep. And I guess, I mean, you know, it is still resonating with the young audience because the boys.
They go with the tent strategy, you know, 10. Yeah, because if if you're not in the real members tent, you at least want to try to be in a member's tent.
When look, I would say in their world, that tent is the members tent. Yeah, no, it definitely is hard to get into.
Okay, well, I think all of our events from now on, we should have little tents, even if they're just little baby tents, and it's still our members tent while we're growing.
Yeah, everyone wants some sort of exclusivity and what they're attending. They want to be like, I'm here for a reason, and I belong here.
And what says hot event like a tent, you know, yeah, totally.
Okay, so shopnewrepublic.com. They're for sale now. They're shipping shout out to Eric Deluxe with a quick turn around.
There you go. He's on his way to Tokyo rocking members tent. So we're going global. Wow. We'll use some picks. Yeah.
Okay. Well, D's out. He's running around New York. Um, you got me and on and today we got some news to go over. I think the first thing we should just celebrate is we are hot market.
Stock market is hot. Everything's up recessions over inflations at 3%.
Yeah, it's a pretty big steep decline, because I think June of 2022 inflation was at 9%, which is a staggering number.
So if you think about it pretty much one year later, we're down to 3%. The feds target was is 2%. So we're getting closer.
They're still scheduled to raise rates next month.
What's interesting about the last eight months with interest rates rising so high.
The consumer really hasn't been affected. Consumer demand is still really strong. Companies are still delivering great earnings and Americans are spending.
Yep.
But what the Fed has done with the interest rates is basically created all regional banks. Yep.
And created all commercial real estate debt that was due this year because you'd have to refinance it. And when you have 2% rates refinancing to 8% the math doesn't work.
The business is insolvent and you have to hand in the keys. So I don't know. If you're the Fed,
do you think about this as a best case scenario? Someone had to have pain to bring inflation down. We created two industries.
And no one wants to see people, you know, fail and go bankrupt. But that's what's happened. But the average American consumer seems fine.
It's not 2008 where the average consumer was the one that was fine. And actually it was the opposite. The banks all won because interest rates went to zero. Yeah.
So I think it's a pick your poison. Yeah, average consumer got cream. So it's a pick your poison and they will they parade around as this is a win.
I don't know. It's a.
I mean, if it starts to end here, if this is really the beginning of the end, I think, look, I don't think any of these situations are a win in my book. But I think that if you're them.
This is a win. If the voters were not wiped out, you know, that's all that really matters at the end of the day. Yep. The voters, the average person was not in commercial real estate, short-term debt. Yeah.
Yeah. So, you know, as the way that the everyday American sees it, a pain for the big guys, pain for the fat cats and your average person, nothing changed too much.
I think that's a win for like isolated fat cat. Yeah. A lot of fat cats out there in the members. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Because the only other thing that it affected was obviously it dramatically impacted IPOs or it really impacted the.
And that's also isolated, right? It was just the tech market, which is, you know, a very small portion of the American population that was affected.
Yeah. Yeah. It affected like raising money, venture capital, once again, very isolated. I think it's a win. I look, if it's really the beginning of the end and the Fed isn't sitting there waiting for some sort of worse numbers, which you wouldn't imagine if inflation is at 3%.
I mean, the jobs number 10 days ago was like bananas. I think it was almost double what they expected. Yeah. Yeah.
Wrap it up. Let's get back to the party. A small number of fat cats paid. Let's go. Yeah. I mean, they're biggest, the biggest criticism are two things.
And summer of 21 inflation was already at 5% and they did nothing. And then in December of 21, they said inflation's temporary.
Yeah. And they got those two things really wrong. I understand rates had to go up, but had they started doing them back in 21. We wouldn't have had.
As dramatic of pain because people could have prepped even the fat cats at the regional banks and the commercial real estate. I think probably would have survived and everyone would have won. If they just got ahead of the problem and just signaled like, hey, this is coming because the problem is.
When 21 when interest rates were still damn near zero, everyone was still incurring new debt and not not trying to like restructure their balance sheet.
Yeah. So they were the casualty. I think the American consumers find I do don't really see a hard landing at this point.
Like with interest rates this high and everything's fine in the majority of the economy. Yeah. It would just be so nice.
It would be great. It also like it's too early to celebrate, but it it really showed me because I wasn't paying attention to this stuff in 08, but like the amount of press of doom and gloom once again fingers crossed.
I hope that's not actually coming in some way, but like there was so much like, you know, expert who predicted 08, we're fucked end of the year.
Bob, Bob, Bob, there was so much doom and gloom in the news about what was coming. And if if we make it out that I just, I don't know, it makes me realize that, you know, once again, obviously I should have realized this by now, but like, there's just so much.
There's so much, there's so much more clicks in in everything's fucked news and, you know, it just seem really scary.
I think that's, that's honestly like a problem with the way media personalities are incentivized to work. So like Peter Zahan, the guy that was on Rogan that we've talked about.
Yeah.
He was a very thoughtful geopolitical expert, like five years, four years, three years ago, like during COVID lockdowns, I read his book and explained why geographically the US is the best position to, to sustain the supremacy of the economy of the world, why the population growth is great and explain what, what all the advantages like rivers and all this stuff in the US that
access to trade. And that was very thoughtful. And I was like, oh, wow, this is actually really interesting. The problem is now he's got to sell more books because he sold a lot of books three years ago. So actually go on Rogan and say China's done in 10 years.
Yeah. Plus you have to have an equally or bigger bold prediction. Like if you get hot, you know, like it's just like making a song, you could make songs your whole life, you make one song that hits and now the pressure is to one up that song.
And it just feels to me like he had a really good book. He had a really good sort of theory around this thing. He got a lot of attention. And now you got to up the ante.
You know, but it's scary when something is low stakes from how it affects society like sports. I get why the sports talking heads say this stuff.
Because there's no consequence. You say LeBron sucks. You say LeBrons that go known. It's not affecting anyone's day of the life. Yeah.
But if you say China's ending in 10 years, what is a Chinese citizen? Like hearing this, like, wait, is my family going to die? Like what's going to happen?
Or like we're talking about apology for him.
Yeah, apology and Bitcoin. Perfect example. He knew it wasn't going in million bucks, but he knew if he tweeted it, he can get go viral.
And everyone talked about it. It was on every mainstream media platform.
It's because unfortunately the incentives for Shaq and Charles Barkley are the same for those guys. It's just clicks and number.
They're not, they get no, nothing changes if they were right or not. And I just think you get so, you just the problem with everything nowadays is you get so used to clicks or book sales or impressions being the metric for success that
you kind of lose. There's like these other second and third order consequences to what you said maybe that have no effect. It doesn't matter. That's not what you're checking.
Yeah, apology, nothing happened to him negatively. He's still on every big podcast. He's still on every big, you know, platform.
Yeah, it was a positive. Not only did nothing negative happen, positives happen. Yeah.
It's finished for that. Nobody says, here, we're going to cancel our interview with you because you were really wrong on that. They're like, oh, apology, the famous guy. Let's have him on and talk.
Yeah, exactly. And then he can probably, he's obviously not a smart guy. So he can just talk his way out of it.
Yeah, I think that's everything. That's literally the presidential race has is that like if someone came in today, we keep saying we need like a supermoderate person and blah, blah, blah.
If someone truly was moderate, they would just get drowned out. You would get no attention or impressions or likes and like you have to.
Yeah, it's why boomberg who was the most qualified candidate. Yeah, he was out on day one.
Day one. First debate. Hot clip. And you're out. Yeah, no, it's it's increasingly scary because I think we think both things are true. Social media is not real life.
But social media also determines who's in power. Yeah, because attention determines right who's in power. You know, and then like that's why I think it's so crazy that we're just the Democrats are running the same playbook with Trump again. Like all you see is Trump news on, you know, from the left.
And I just worry that that formula worked for him before.
Yeah, I mean, if you're the Democrats today, the marketing technique you could use.
Inflations fallen off a cliff. And if you look at it, it's it coincides when the inflation reduction act was signed. Yeah, just lie and say just use that.
Use it all. That's what the Republicans do. They're so good at like, you know, lying or bending the truth to fit their storyline. Play the game. Don't just keep trying to trash the other guy and give them more impressions.
No, it's a.
Yeah, it's it's frustrating because if you will, if you're willing to do a little more research, you can actually uncover the truth on a lot of these topics.
But unfortunately, everyone's too busy with their lives, their families, their jobs, I get it.
So no one's incentivized to like dig. You just look at the headline and you think America scrambling. You think America is great. You think Republicans are great. You think Zohan's China's stance is great.
Well, insane. It's insanity. It's insane. You can't do it. I'm telling you, I'm at an all-time low in my social media consumption and like, it just it's been like I even just went through it all Twitter and everything to try to pick my winners, losers and content.
And so I went to the trending topics and it's just like, you know, Ukraine, Trump, people are arguing over like Greg being nominated from succession for the Emmys because he has, you know, allegations of under it.
Like it's just like, holy fuck man. Yes, allegations. Wait, what Greg from?
Yeah, so Greg from succession. I saw him as trending on Twitter.
That's why because he, I have no idea if any of this is real and I have no dog in the fight because I don't know.
But apparently he like owns a bar or something, you know, wherever he lives, it's like by a college campus.
So just picture Greg, you know, famous from succession. Apparently he has this bar and like, it's a bunch of college girls and apparently he hooks up with college girls and he brings them to the VIP room and everyone's claiming that there's been underage girls that have been served alcohol and that he's predatory and whatever.
I'm no idea, but there is a very strong internet group against Greg from succession because he's a predator and they're not happy that he's.
So another thing on TikTok that has gone viral in the last three weeks, Solomon bird, it's sitting in the office today, USC football player shout out to you.
He was asking me about this viral clip, like Michael Jordan's broke from gambling. Do you believe it?
Yeah, that's why he had to sell the hornets and I was like, this guy makes $150 million a year guaranteed from Jordan brand.
His net worth from Charlotte Hornets are two billion dollars that he's going to make on this sale.
He can there's not a counter party where he could lose that much money. Yeah.
Yeah, he could be broke. I guess if he was a psychopath and he was betting tens of millions of dollars on everything.
I don't even think you could casino will take $150 million a year.
I agree. But my point is he could be broke for a month until the next royalty check comes in. It's just too much money.
He's made this much money for like 20 plus years post his career.
Yeah.
But if you go on TikTok, there's all these people that are doing clips like this is why Michael Jordan sold the Charlotte Hornets.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Because now this is what's so crazy about the world we live in and like I don't know Malcolm Gladwell should write a book about this.
I'm not the one to talk about it too much.
But like what do you do when the content creators that type of content does really well on TikTok?
So they no longer care if it's true or not, they only care about getting views.
And so you follow a format, you get views, now a rumor becomes known.
And they move on to the next one and they do a similar format.
But all they care about is this like mystery discovery format because that format is popular.
And it just causes an casual user with maybe a little bit of, you know, doesn't know.
I don't know if you didn't know.
Like I could see my cousins calling me and be like, damn, Jordan's broke.
Yeah, Jordan owns a NASCAR team. He owns like a he owns so much shit.
There's like, it's actually, if you want to say gambling is the reason he goes broke.
It's actually mathematically impossible.
Yeah.
But it doesn't matter.
Because the streams are, the royalties are forever.
Yeah.
Like 150 mega to 160 next year.
It's not going to 20.
Yeah.
You know what I noticed is like we all want to live.
There's my big, you know, my big thought of the week.
We all want to live in like a free society, right?
Like we want to be free.
We want to be able to do what we want.
We want to consume no censorship, whatever.
But the responsibilities that come with living in a free society are like pretty.
Like I don't even know if we can take them.
It's like, you know, most of the food is terrible for you that are your options.
Most of the, you know, the medical system is made to treat, not prevent.
Social media is just 99% bullshit and inflated things.
All this stuff, like to be able to parse through that and use your own judgment
of what's bullshit, what's healthy, what's the right thing?
Like, it's tough, man.
I'm not saying I want to move to a dictatorship.
But yeah, you got to have a lot of responsibility.
It's interesting because when we were teenagers in the 90s, the conspiracy theories,
we're pretty reasonable.
Yeah.
Like the conspiracy theory that JFK might have been assassinated by the CIA.
That was like crazy to say.
Today, that's child's play.
Well, that's nothing.
Did you see Jack Dorsey was just on a podcast saying 100, it's 100% fat?
Yeah, I actually saw that clip.
And Jack Dorsey's in those circles.
Like he, you know, similar to we bleeped out from your comedy show last weekend.
Yeah.
That guy knows.
Yeah.
Things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyway, what's your point?
You're right.
My point is there is used to be nothing compared to what they are today.
Because people didn't have this like ability to consume.
Yeah.
I mean, is it uncensored content with no consequence?
Oh, it's like unfiltered.
Like it's just, there's no parent company.
There's no, you know, standards and practices.
I mean, we talked about this, but if 9-11 happened today, there would be zero consensus.
Zero consensus on what happened.
Not only that, but the same way that everyone talks about after 9-11, the amount of pride
for America was like through the roof.
I think there would be like protest the next day that, you know, Biden did it.
Like I don't think you would get that same.
By Hunter Biden did it.
Like what would you think in the White House was blah, blah, blah.
I don't think that you would even have that moment of, you know, a month
where everyone's driving around listening to country and swinging American flags.
I think it would instantly be like...
Oh, Bill Gates would get blamed for sure.
Yep.
Epstein.
There would be TikTok frame by frame.
Here you can see Epstein's plane actually flying into tower one.
I mean, insane, but you're right.
Yeah.
But here's what else I wondered.
This is, I honestly wonder this, especially after just going on like American history
deep dive the last month, is are things actually crazier than they were before?
Or with the invention of the internet and the fact that everyone can talk to each other
and you can even see a random video about Michael Jordan being broke,
is it just like now you tear down the walls where everyone can share everything
and anytime there's a shooting, someone caught it on video,
you can literally watch cell phone videos of the war in Ukraine live happening,
like people dying, it's insane.
Like is it just that now with this unstructured access to information,
it's just too much.
I think it's too much and I don't think it's real life,
because if I look at my daily life, even when I come into the ghost offices every day,
I'm Dan near 20 years younger than Solomon, or 20 years older,
and I can have a very normal conversation with them about various different topics.
Javier, 15 years older than, and we all have different backgrounds and everything's normal.
Yeah, yeah.
And I just think like, I don't know, man, as bad as like the war in Ukraine is,
and as bad as, like things have been insane, like the Vietnam era,
or if World War II, or like, it's just, I don't know, things have been so different.
And I think the secrets have always been there.
The conspiracies, those things have always been happening,
it's just now people can talk about them.
The problem is we overdo it and we get into Jordan being broke.
We go overdo it and then even in the political side,
I don't know if you've noticed, obviously you're not on social media,
so you probably haven't noticed this.
It's just Trump's battle is going on real time,
as hard as you can possibly imagine.
DeSantis is running ads that Trump is pro LGBTQ,
and he has all these comments of how Trump passed this bill,
how Trump is progressive in this side, and that's bad.
Yeah.
That's on one side.
Yeah.
That's what's wild.
It's like the Democrats funding all the strategy
of the Democrats funding the outlandish Republican candidates,
which work.
Yeah.
That's just a whole another layer of like cluster fuss
in all this information.
Trump's campaigning, or DeSantis is campaigning
that Trump is too open-minded.
Think about that.
To try to get Republican voters.
And then what does Trump have to robot it and say no?
I have to.
Oh my God.
Okay.
Well, it's wild times.
What's up with Coinbase?
They're just crushing it.
Yeah.
Coinbase.
So news reported yesterday that all the ETFs that we talked about
BlackRock, BlackRock Fidelity, all the Schwab that want to run
Bitcoin ETFs have now all agreed that Coinbase is software will
basically be the data surveillance for the SEC to be okay with
there's no market manipulation.
So they share all the data, not individual accounts, and you know,
Trump is buying an ETF.
Not that.
Just basically like here's the data flow.
Let me just shoot.
Apparently all ETFs apparently have to have this now.
And Coinbase as like the authority in providing that data.
Coinbase is also the custody for BlackRock for the ETF.
So what's increasingly happening and I've talked about this
a long time, Coinbase is effectively going to be a monopoly on
crypto access in the Western markets.
Yeah.
So think US, Europe, Japan, Korea, all these countries that play
by the rules, Coinbase is your only solution.
Because everyone else has become either fraud or gone on a business
over levered and stocks up 300% year-to-date.
And this is what I like as a, but it's also down 80% from
IPO.
So, you know, this is why I never wavered in my belief.
I haven't sold a single share since the company went public.
Because if you think about it long-term, it was similar to how I viewed Bitcoin.
Like it seemed pretty obvious to me that it's going to exist in a meaningful way.
And now the way, I think the last 24 months of all these
scams getting smoked out from three AC, FTX, Celsius,
not the drink, the exchange, it just shows that there's so many
bad actors in the space.
And this is the only actor that's working hand in hand with regulators
across all countries in the world.
And they're the only ones that I think a country can get comfortable with
being like, hey, we're okay with you operating.
And shout out to Brian Armstrong because it must have been really tough.
When you saw all these people like growing so fast and making all this money
and it was just a wild, wild west and I don't know.
There must have been so many times when it felt like, oh man, we can just
have the discipline of doing the right thing when everyone else was
being rewarded for not and for that to finally pay off and start to pay off
now is just, I mean props to him.
That's a tough thing to do.
So I thought about this and I was thinking because he's been in crypto
I think since 2009, 10.
And if he was in crypto back then, even if he put a small amount of money
in Bitcoin, Ethereum in 2016, like he's so rich that he was
able to have the clarity like, this is the way I need to build my company.
Whereas the SPFs and stuff were like, this was their day to make money.
Or you could be right, but also maybe just like, look, this is just what I
want to believe.
So I'm going to pitch it.
Maybe Brian is just one of the rare really hardworking good dudes
that does the right thing.
Yeah.
And, you know, because they could have done this 10 years ago
and cut all the corners and been out of business in three years.
Yeah, he could have just bought the crypto and never started the company.
Or he could have, whatever he has in crypto, probably, you know,
I think to your point, which I increasingly will agree with is,
he owned enough crypto personally, I would imagine I don't know
that in 2017, 18 after the first crash,
been like, cool, someone else run this company.
I'm really rich.
I don't care.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think he could have bailed out.
And I also think of vice versa.
I think SPF, you know, he had his little Bitcoin swap hustle
and he could have made money and not, you know, hurt anyone.
But I just think he's a piece of shit.
And I think, you know, money and like the availability
to huge opportunity, nothing shows, you know,
where your weaknesses are like that.
And it just seems to me, once again, I'm weaving a bit of a fairy tale
because it's what I want to believe.
It seems to me that Brian Armstrong just, there's a strong moral sense
that even through so much like temptation and examples of competitors doing it.
And even probably questioning like, am I going to get left in the dust?
I mean, look what Uber did.
Uber went and broke a lot of laws and did a lot of wild shit,
but it worked.
And in the end, it was worth it.
That company is now legit and it now is, you know,
a great company because of the recklessness that it took
to disrupt the industry.
So there's an argument that like, oh, this is what I should do.
This is what competitors are doing.
This is what whatever.
And he like stayed so morally sound through it all
and made life a lot harder on himself than it had to be.
Yeah, 1000% because there's a counter example.
There's a guy named Charles Lee who's a top 10 employee at Coinbase.
So he started Litecoin.
And in the peak of the mania in 2017,
I think he liquidated $900 million of his position.
Yeah.
And wrote a blog post how this is morally the right thing to do
because I need to be removed financially from the product.
Yeah.
So I can actually lead the product.
This guy's nowhere to be found.
Yeah.
He's not on Twitter anymore.
He's the right thing.
Yeah.
He's the right thing.
And think about it.
I mean, $9 million in 2017, you put in the SB 500.
He's probably worth like $3 billion now.
I mean, did you know how easily Brian could have made Coincoin?
And it just...
Oh, easily.
You know, pump it and dump it and make a few extra billion.
I've been around him enough to...
I think you're right that he just actually just believed...
He really believes in the mission.
Yeah.
It's just cool to see.
I know we talk a lot about like fucked up business people.
And obviously those stories are a lot more fun to talk about.
But he just strikes me as a good example of someone who really believes in Bitcoin,
or really believes in crypto, truly.
And...
But won't cut corners or, you know, cut morals in order to get there.
And it seems like right now it's starting to pay off.
Where he's at and look at where like CZ and SBF are.
Yeah.
And like, think about mentally what he had to go through between IPOing 21,
you're the hottest person on the block in March of 21.
And your stock just gets cratered to the point where people are like,
this is a scam, this is over.
And he just...
Yeah.
Just level headed and he's just put his head down and worked.
And he's obviously rich enough, he doesn't have to do that.
Yeah.
Props to him.
Props to him.
Okay.
How about this?
X.AI is now live.
And if you're wondering what X.AI is, it is, you know, Elon...
His go, him and his people, their go at AI.
You know, they're chat GPT products, so to speak.
So this release this morning, X.AI.
I don't think anyone really knows what they're up to,
but it's obviously like an open AI situation.
What happens on the website?
Is it like a chat box?
He can hire for roles.
They're like, uh, in it, drop your resume.
Uh-oh.
And they're trying to build out the team.
And, you know, I was actually talking to Zach White this morning
because they released all the people that are part of like this founding team.
Yeah.
And he made the comment, this is the equivalent of like,
assembling the dream team of AI research
and sending them to Barcelona and the 92 Olympics
and just beating the shit out of everyone.
Really?
How is he so good at talent, man?
How does he...
How does he have the time to start this?
I know, and how do you...
Like, how does he convince these people to go to him?
You know, it's just...
It's just fascinating.
If you study like business, it's just like, man,
he obviously, what he does better than anyone is collects talent.
And he like moves to where everything's going.
Yeah.
Like, he probably...
But then you move there and you're competing with Google
and open AI and, you know what I mean?
I mean, you gotta imagine given how he's made moves like,
didn't he tweet that him and Zach,
he's like, I want a dick measuring contest literally.
He tweeted that, right?
Did he?
Yes, he tweeted that...
He's wild.
So, Ego's clearly driving all of his decisions, right?
So he can't stand that Zach called him out.
Now, Zach is with...
I need your opinion on that after I make my point.
But right now, in AI, which is some...
Open AI, which he actually was technically a co-founder,
Sam Altman's on covers of magazines.
He's meeting with world leaders.
Yeah.
He's getting...
He's the face of AI today.
Yeah.
Whether he should be or not given what everyone else has achieved,
if you were to ask anyone about AI,
they'd be like, oh, Sam Altman, I've heard of that guy.
And he's probably like, fuck this guy.
I'm doing my own AI and I'm gonna be better.
I gotta imagine that's the motivation.
What else is it?
I'm done with believing he's just like this humanitarian
because Twitter is a perfect example.
He challenged another mogul to measure his dick.
I'm trying to find it.
Is that real?
He did say it's not good to cock.
And right after that, he says,
I challenge him to measure a dick measuring contest.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
But bro, you're the richest guy in history.
Yeah, so it's not like altruistic is my point.
At this point, it's like ego and legacy.
So he sees Sam Altman getting all this fame
and he's probably like, I know way more about AI
than Sam Altman.
No one's questioning whether Elon's a genius or not.
Now he just doesn't want anyone else to have the shine.
I can't.
I cannot analyze.
I just don't get it.
Because if it's ego, like what else, literally?
What else, nothing else will do it?
I think tech moves so fast.
And tech is, I mean, if you look at this in P500 or NASDAQ,
they're the biggest companies.
So there's a face of tech every that's changing faster than ever.
Bill Gates was the face of technology for such a long time.
Then Steve Jobs came along.
He became the face of tech.
Then Zach came along.
He became the face of the new age tech.
And then AI right now, Sam Altman,
AI's the only thing everyone's talking about.
And he's the guy.
I don't see whether the motivation.
Do you think he's trying to like, it's not money?
Like, did he put out, like, you know how he's real big
on his mission statements and stuff?
Did he put out like a mission, like why XAI exists?
No, he just said I'm announcing XAI.
I just went on his Twitter.
Yeah, I don't know.
I have trouble here.
I mean, look, I do legitimately believe,
unlike you, I believe that his motivation for...
His tweet was announcing formation of XAI
to understand reality.
I think you're right, SpaceX, Tesla,
all these things that he created 10 years ago were...
I believe Twitter, that's where you and I differ.
And I think he had the right intention
and then he got too famous.
And just like everyone we know,
just like the LA Club Rat that becomes famous
and then their ego goes out of control.
Yeah.
It's just a different scale.
Yeah, I listen.
It's a valid point.
And...
Because we've seen it the smallest scale,
and now we're seeing it the most global scale
we've ever seen.
And I don't think anything's different.
It's just like if you're doing everything you're doing
and then you're like jealous of Sam Altman,
that's just fucking crazy.
Think about that.
I think he has to be.
Interesting.
I don't know.
We'll see.
He's always been good at doing interviews and doing things
and saying whether you believe it or not,
saying what the mission is.
You know, I bought Twitter because of this reason.
I started SpaceX because of this reason.
We'll hear what his explanation is of why he got into AI.
Or why...
You know what I mean?
Look, apparently obviously like Tesla
and all that stuff they've been gathering
and working on AI for a long time.
But why get into it on this level?
Yeah, his tweet that I think I read,
we were chatting,
he says his mission is to understand reality.
I don't know.
I need more.
I need more than that.
But he is a talent aggregator.
Which is crazy.
That's insane.
If you think about like, once again,
you can think about like how he spends his time,
that's crazy.
You wonder what I just saw, by the way,
and I just pre-ordered it.
Walter Isaacson, who wrote the Steve Jobs book,
is releasing an Elon Musk book.
Wow.
Because you know, Walter Isaacson trails the person
all the time, like always like an honest tape.
They're not puff pieces, right?
They never have been in the past.
And Steve Jobs, like that was one of the, like,
he was dying and that was one of the agreements
was it has to be honest.
It has to show the bad parts too.
So curious about that.
But you can look at how he spends his time.
You can look at how smart he is.
You can look at whatever.
But like, how to gather talent at that level.
Like even for the talent to not be like, well, look,
I mean, this guy is busy with a million other things.
And I don't think the talent, like the talent's like,
he just challenged Suck to measure his dick.
Well, yeah, Andy has time to do that too.
And like, go do jujitsu.
I just saw a video.
I didn't watch it, but I saved it.
There's a video of Lex Freeman doing jujitsu
with Zuckerberg for like 10 minutes.
And is that who Lex did jujitsu with Elon, right?
Yeah.
For no, right?
Yeah.
Let's talk about the post.
Give me your thoughts.
The big, exact post.
It's old bro.
Hold on.
I got to look it up.
I didn't see it.
You don't know it?
No.
There's no way you don't know this.
No, it's him and your homies.
The guys you watch every weekend.
Google it.
Instagram.
Instagram.
Instagram.
I cannot believe.
Israel, Arizona, and Vokalovsky, and Zach,
we're all fighting.
But wasn't he like, didn't he have his shirt off or something?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, his shirt off.
You need to get back in the real world, bro.
Do you believe it's a lot?
Well, he's ripped.
He's ripped.
Okay.
No.
Oh, man.
I mean, I'm into it.
I don't know what to say.
I mean, this guy was like, what?
Like, I'm traveling around the country
and living with a different family.
Remember when he was on all the bullshit things?
I'm into this one.
And he was like running everywhere.
Remember, he did his own run club, right?
Yeah, he did.
I'm totally this one I'm all about.
And I think this has changed.
I can only imagine it is for other people too.
This is changing my perception of him massively.
So you know the sport 100 times better than I do.
Yes.
And I've heard from UFC fans that I know
that follow this stuff pretty closely.
And my original take was, because I don't really,
I mean, I know the names, but I don't follow the sport.
Yeah.
That if the stars in UFC,
from the people that I know that are involved in MMA,
they take their craft so seriously.
Yeah.
They're not willing to just like post, you know,
a cloud chaser.
So if Israel is willing to post him
with another champion, is Vokolowski a champion?
A Vokonovsky.
Yeah, he's number one ranked pound for pound.
He's like considered the best fighter in the world at the moment.
Okay.
So they're willing to take a picture.
And you know how hard they treat their craft.
And I was like,
that's where it's very different than like the NBA and NFL
where you would see like, you know,
Tom Brady's throwing passes in Kevin Hart.
You're like, whatever.
Who cares? It's funny.
But I feel like MMA is like very particular
about who they associate themselves with.
Yeah.
And I was like, this must be a sign that he's real.
And then someone said Israel really craves attention.
And Zach probably just PJ to wherever the hell he was.
And maybe paid him a bag and said,
let's get a session in.
Yeah.
And so you're asking like, what is it telling me?
Which one is it?
Because I don't know these people.
Do you ask me what LeBron's motivation from a post was?
I could probably give you a fairly.
Let me tell you what's important to me.
This is what's important.
So it's similar to both of those angles.
I don't think, yeah, Israel is like a thirsty for attention
whatever.
That's just like kind of hatred or you talk.
What it tells me actually is that the fact that Zach
even gives a shit about Izzy and Volkanovsky
that he really, like those are his stars.
Like he's not posting photos with LeBron or Oprah or, you know,
like those are his celebrities, which means he really cares.
It's not even him and like, you know, like I could see him
and like Chuck LaDelle, you know, like the old champ that, you know,
it's like, oh, I love UFC.
You know, it's like, no, you don't, dude.
Like you.
QSP or someone?
Yeah.
Like he knows what's up.
He's very current.
And the fact that he cares enough to want to go roll around
and sweat and train with those guys.
Those guys are stars.
But they're not like, they're not LeBron James.
It's not like, wow, I went to the gym
and Steph let me hit a couple three pointers.
Like it's still a relatively niche thing.
He cares enough that those are his stars too.
And he's rolling around and sweating and, you know,
not ashamed to show his skills.
Because that would be really embarrassing.
You know, you're a poser.
And those guys know you're a poser.
And it would all be whack.
And he's fucking ripped.
It just shows to me that he really, really loves this shit.
And it's like a fanboy for the real stars of the sport.
It's impressive.
Yeah.
That's why it changes my perception.
Like when you hear his Murf time, you know, it's like, damn,
you can't really fake that.
You know, that's just undeniably very difficult.
And those guys, of course, if Zuck wants to come hang out with them
and he's like actually about it to your point, yes,
like they're over the moon.
It's not because he's a fanboy
and he wants to go see Zuck and he'll do anything for attention.
It's fucking Mark Zuckerberg ripped
that wants to come to Jiu-Jitsu with you.
Who wouldn't take that opportunity?
Yeah, I've never done Jiu-Jitsu.
It's not the most flattering sport from what I've seen.
No, it's not like we're meeting up to shoot free throws
or even hit a golf ball.
You're gonna fucking sweat all over each other
and fucking rub each other's nuts in each other's faces.
It's like a brutal, like it's gross, dude.
It's very like intrusive.
It's not like we arm wrestled.
And like your point, it's not free throws
or swinging a golf club.
Even if they're not really trying,
you're still risking yourself for like a quick injury.
Real quick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's cool.
You can't hate on anything in that picture.
That is my take.
You can't hate on Izzy or Volk,
for hanging out with him.
You can't hate on him for hanging out with you.
You can't say he's a poser.
You just can't.
Like any person at his age
that gets involved enough
in such a hard like invasive sport
to get those muscles
and practice, you got to give props to,
especially one of the richest dudes in the world
who could be doing anything else.
Yeah, because any able adult human
can go on a basketball court
and shoot a basket
and then Steph Curry can shoot a basket
and you can take a picture.
Easy.
Anyone could do that.
Anyone.
Almost any other sport.
But fighting.
You can go to the Dodger game
and throw a first pitch.
You can go to the blah, blah, blah.
You can do any of it.
It takes no dedication.
Getting to the level that Zuck is at.
Even if he's still a super beginner
is very hard.
And like I said,
like he's getting his face mashed.
He's definitely catching elbows.
He's definitely getting fucking ringworm.
He's definitely like, he's in it.
And it's gross.
And you got to give him props.
And I'm not even.
I'm kind of a Zuckator a little bit.
I mean, not big time.
I don't care.
But like, I like to rip on him.
And I loved making fun of the American flag photo
with the sunscreen all over the face.
And the fucking.
He's come a long way from there.
It's cool, man.
It's over over using sunscreen
to fighting two of the UFC champs.
It's pretty.
Pretty.
And this is where I get a little like Jim Broey
is like, I think once again,
you can go shoot a basketball.
Fine.
But getting off your couch and going
and like really, there's no way in that sport to half-ass it.
Really putting yourself into a challenging position
over and over and over and getting better at something
and getting stronger and getting more fit.
And I'll never, you can't hate on that.
Yeah.
It's fucking cool, especially when the guy,
like I said, could be doing anything else.
There's a million other hobbies.
Or even like athletic things that he could be doing.
I got to remember there used to be those photos that you said
the run club.
Now I remember there was those photos of him running
where it looked like the president running.
It was like him running in a security team.
And it's like, yeah, that's what Zuck should be doing, I guess.
But fucking rolling around on a mat with these guys.
The pre-pandemic.
This might have been like six or seven years ago.
He ran in China and Tiniman Square.
China is the most populous country was actually.
I think India passed it.
But you get the point.
There's a lot of fucking people there.
Yeah.
And he's in Tiniman Square.
There's zero people in the photo.
Yeah, exactly.
That's like actually no other day in the world.
Has there been zero people?
I think COVID at Tiniman Square.
Exactly.
And rolling around on a mat with these guys.
I mean, Zuck is going to like...
He has to be getting injuries.
You know, little injuries.
You can't get thrown around and twisted up like that.
Like he's getting hurt.
There are injuries that he's nursing.
He could very easily, you know, tear a tendon or...
Or whatever.
There's no way to fake it.
He could break a wrist.
He could do all that stuff, right?
Yeah.
You got to give him props.
Pretty sick.
Okay.
Hey, what's up with Lena Kahn?
She's just trying to break everyone up and losing?
Or what's good?
She's really not having a good go with it.
Yes.
She went after Microsoft for the Activision Deal $75 billion.
She lost it.
And it's funny.
Dan Primack, who's the leading tech reporter around tweeted,
Lena Kahn is the Oakland A's of the FTC.
The Oakland A's are a notoriously a terrible team.
Yeah.
So she's just getting catchin' else.
Did you say if I listen to her like she is the one...
She is the person in charge of antitrust of breaking up big business.
Yeah.
And so if like a big company makes acquisition,
her job is to be like, is this fair for competition?
It's just fair for small businesses.
And I'm torn on this, and I'm curious where you land,
because we've neutered big tech for the last 20 years basically
in making large acquisitions.
So this is a really large one.
$75 billion.
Microsoft's the only one.
It's kind of ironic.
They were the ones who were the face of antitrust
in the late 90s and early 2000s.
And now they were able to buy LinkedIn for 21 billion.
They bought Activision for 75 billion.
Like those are acquisitions that Facebook and Google
just can't do.
Yeah.
And I get it from a small business competition.
Like you can't build the next great company if you have five
oligarchs in the big tech CEOs that are controlling everything.
But then from a national security perspective,
look at TikTok.
They had a company bite dances.
It came in and kicked everyone's ass because they don't play
by the same rules.
So I don't know what the...
There's moral angles to both sides.
But TikTok was a perfect example if you don't let big tech run wild
and you're not going to...
And especially if we're not going to regulate them.
Yeah.
So if you're not going to regulate them the way you regulate US companies,
like she and TikTok, they're not getting regulated.
I just saw.
Yesterday I just got sent because now we're on it.
Is she and has...
We're not really strangers game on their website.
It's fake.
And all they did was take our product images
and on the word strangers on the box, they blurred it out.
And it is up on their website.
And it's the exact same game. Have you bought it?
I haven't received it yet.
But we bought it and it's just a fake...
What's the price?
What's the difference?
That's going to be the funniest.
I don't remember.
I think it's half.
I think it's half.
Which is crazy.
12 bucks or something.
Yeah.
And they probably just use all your guys' quotes
from the last...
Whatever, however long how many years you guys have been around
and put it in the AI and change a little bit.
But I don't even know if they did that.
I think they literally just took our game.
And we have problems with that on other things.
We're like...
In China, they'll just make the exact replica of the game.
But the red is a little orange.
You know, we spotted on Amazon or whatever.
But they...
She and did it.
And they...
All they did was blurred out the word stranger.
So it still says we're not really.
And then...
You've got to send me this.
I'm going to send you...
I'm going to send you a screenshot.
That's wild.
And some board game.
It's the exact same...
Not something else.
No.
It's the same everything.
Yeah.
No one's seeing it.
It's not like...
Alibaba, some manufacturer is selling...
It's not like an Etsy seller.
Yes.
Fucking she and it is so wild.
And the reach...
I mean, the...
I'm sure it's doing great.
She...
Probably killing it.
If I got ads cruising...
Do you have any recourse on that?
Can you do anything?
It looks like it.
Yeah.
But I'll...
I mean, I'll know a lot more by the end of the week.
But yeah.
It looks like we'll be fine.
And they'll have to take it down.
But the point is they can just keep doing that over...
Rinse and repeat.
Yeah.
I mean, the point is there's no real policing.
You could get it taken down.
The police...
The consequences, they take it down.
But there's no punishment.
No.
Zero.
So to your point, exactly.
I feel it personally today.
And I'm not feeling it from fucking Microsoft.
Yeah.
You know, I think the bigger threat is that type of stuff.
But I agree.
Look, I'm also in the mood right now of like a sort of killing.
I'm very American, you know, exceptionalism.
And I miss it.
And I just feel like...
There's all these examples of China embarrassing us.
And I don't personally see how Microsoft buying, you know,
freaking Call of Duty is...
It's going to actually do it.
I think there's just...
I don't know.
I think the line is very blurry between where are you actually looking out for small businesses?
And where are you just anti-success?
Anti-wild success.
I think there's a group of people in politics that hate billionaires.
And they're constituents.
And that's all they talk about.
And it's ridiculous.
And it's corrupt.
And every billionaire is fucked up.
And it should go to the little guy.
I don't...
I think that that line is very blurry.
And it sounds to me like the reason Lena Khan is losing these things
is because she...
That might fall a little bit more on the just...
I don't like it because it's big.
Yeah.
You really care about anti-d...
If you really care about the consumer or small business,
like Amazon should have never been able to do private label.
That's who's affecting small businesses.
It's not this type of stuff in my opinion.
No, because I see people with venture tweet out in the last 40 hours.
Like, I guess we're all okay with just having five world lords.
You know, Zach Tim Cook, Jamie Dynan.
Yeah.
And that's self-serving because it's tough to compete with them.
Yeah, it's also better than having one.
I mean, China has one.
We've at least got five.
Yeah.
And they have to compete.
You know, I just don't...
I just think it's a little...
I don't know.
I hate the like, just hate it because it's big thing.
If you can show me actual...
I think the places where small businesses are being affected
aren't these type of things.
I think Amazon has reached havoc on small businesses.
You know, Shopify has helped small businesses.
100%.
You look at counterpoint.
Yeah.
So I think there's just a little bit of like, hate it because it's big.
And I think, naturally, you're going to have five behemoths.
You've got to look out to make sure it's not predatory.
And especially if you're going to have five behemoths,
and you want to regulate them, then just don't let foreign countries,
especially the number one enemy of America, which is China.
Yeah.
Come in just a free-for-all.
Yeah, because really, if you look at it,
all five of those behemoths are really worried about one thing.
I would guess, and it's probably China.
And think about it.
Like, your business, because there's no regulation on Xi'an,
you have to spend money on a lawyer.
You incurred costs.
You incurred costs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'll do you have to do it probably over and over again.
Right.
Yeah.
And there's no potential.
So even the US government is going to refund you on your legal bill.
Yeah.
That is what's actually, like, can you imagine the damage that Xi'an has probably done on small businesses,
small apparel companies, small.
And think about how many upstarts that have seen some traction, they scrape some data,
they just knock them off, and they can't exist.
Yeah.
That's the real threat.
It's not, in my opinion, it's not these type of things that, like I said,
they just don't like because they're big.
You just see 75 billion, and you're like, nope, not on my watch.
That's not what's actually impacting anyone.
Yep.
Love it.
Okay.
It's that time.
Let's do our winners, losers, the content wrap up on and who's your biggest winner for the last week.
My biggest winner is Christopher U-Banks.
He's an American tennis player.
He just lost in the quarter of finals this morning to Medvedev, who's like a top five player.
And the reason he's my winner is because he's 27 years old, which in tennis years isn't young.
And he really hadn't had great success for most of his career, and obviously to pro, so he's obviously successful.
But he was like trying to crack the top 100, and was having trouble doing that.
And he just came on my radar during Wimbledon, because he just got on fire.
And he was doing media because he thought tennis might be a wrap for him.
And he was kind of hedging.
He would do some media spots, and now announcing it being an analyst.
And a month ago, he just catches fire, wins his first ATB tour title in Mallorca, and has been on a heater, gets to the quarter finals of Wimbledon.
And he was like three points away from advancing to the semifinals, which would have been like for an American.
We haven't seen that since Andy Roddick, which is damn near 18 years ago, I think at this point.
And it's just a testament to perseverance, and not giving up.
And at the highest of levels in a sport that he like, it can change at any given time.
And now he's like a name, no name.
Like he was the main, so Alkarez, who's the number one seed in the tournament, was on ESPN 2.
Christopher Eubanks was on ESPN 1.
And this is how quickly your life can change if you just start succeeding.
So I was super into the story the last few weeks, and admittedly didn't know who he was till Wimbledon.
And I'm excited.
Hopefully he continues this, and you know, Americans dying for tennis to like be relevant.
And I'm a fan of the sport, so hopefully he can do any so charismatic.
He was getting the crowd going.
He had Coco Gough in the stands watching every game.
Like it was dope.
It was fun.
Yeah, it's good.
I'm really bummed.
You know, my tennis.
I kind of felt like tennis.
You get up on tennis, right?
You're golf.
Yeah, golf took over.
You know, like, yeah, Liv got me.
I just pre-ordered.
Somehow there's already a book out about coming out about the Liv.
Like it behind this, the real story of Liv take over.
See if it's any good.
You know, I'm just going to go easy, but obvious to me.
And I've already said it all.
So I don't need to go too in depth.
But I got to get my winner to Zuck.
Okay.
He's doing it, you know, for every reason that I just said,
I thought the guy was a weird robot dude.
When he was in front of Congress drinking out of that water, and it looked strange.
And, you know, my perspective now when I watch social network,
I see him as the jerk and the Winkle Vi is the victims.
But that's starting to change.
And I think the Winkle Vi are starting to look like little bitches.
And if they don't like it, they can see him on the mat.
Send location.
Send location.
And it's interesting because Zuck has been famous since he's, you know,
called it 20, 21 years old, running Facebook.
So he's never been able to live a normal life.
And he had to go through all these transitions, like how you talked about it.
You didn't like the way he drank water.
He was sweating on stage and interviews.
He was running in the sea of nobody in the most populist country in the world.
Yeah.
A lot of sunscreen on.
And then you think this was the calling that changed him.
You think MMA changed him.
I think we'll go down.
I think we'll go down to see Zuck as
before MMA and after MMA.
Yeah, because a guy like him probably doesn't have, doesn't have friends.
He does now.
Is he?
Is he?
That's the other thing.
It's like, you know, not to be cheesy about it, but even since I started doing boxing
or I know a lot of people talk about this like in football or like they actually play sports.
Like, you know, the friendships that you make trying to do something hard together
and like that respect level.
And I'm sure he has like friendships like he's probably never experienced.
Even if they're still, you know, a little weird because he's still Zuck.
But like, probably the way he feels with his like trainers and, you know,
whoever his little crew is that's usually around when they're working.
Like, I bet you, I think there's going to be forever Zuck before MMA and after MMA.
Yeah, even after, I think the Joe Rogan interview was the, the inflection point.
Yeah.
Because I assume they spent time privately either training or working out because Rogan
has mentioned on several pods subsequently of him meeting Zuck.
Yeah.
He's like, no, that guy knows MMA.
Yeah.
He's in it.
He's not a, he's not a poser.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Rogan wouldn't say that if he didn't believe it.
And we thought maybe he just did MMA for a year to prep for the Rogan interview because we thought he was such a robot.
Yeah.
He's about it.
He's about it.
I've got to give him credit.
Who's your loser?
Purgosan, the head of the Wagner group, still unconfirmed.
So we're recording at like 2 p.m. on a Wednesday.
So don't blast me if this ages poorly.
He was 200 kilometers from Moscow to potentially toppling Putin less than a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah.
About face apparently had shelter in Belarus.
Yeah.
And then there was this Putin Purgosan meetup that supposedly happened.
His reports live on Twitter that that was stage and he's dead.
I feel like Purgosan in a very high window probably had a meetup.
Yeah.
So talk about rise to rise and fall.
It's a good run.
I mean, from like servant plates of food, you got to live as a billionaire, you know, sort of warlord for a minute.
And just like it all be false too.
Who knows?
He may pop up.
This is the age of social media.
Like, I'm not going to say.
Yeah.
But isn't it like generals and stuff saying they don't believe.
I mean, you would think maybe there's like you would think that maybe some people know already, like high up in intelligence.
Yeah.
You would think so.
Like the CIA knows what happened to him.
Yeah.
They know where the window you fell out of.
It kind of sounded like what you're saying about Elon.
He just, you know, he blew up and he started feeling himself and, you know, he go got too big.
He tried to take down the whole government.
Yep.
Yeah.
Well, we'll find out what we'll hear eventually.
I'm sure.
But that really happened quickly.
Yeah.
Rise and fall.
My loser is the writers guilds.
You know, let me actually read this, this tweet here because it's pretty harsh.
The studios reportedly have no intentions of speaking with the writers guild and strikers for several more months.
Until, quote, union members start losing their apartments and losing their houses.
A studio executive has said to deadline.
So number one, they sound like Jay Powell.
Yep.
They're Jay Powelling their own organization.
Yeah, they're Jay Powell in it.
And I don't know.
I mean, it seems tough.
It seems like a tough battle.
I do empathize with them.
Like I said, I see them every day on my way to the gym there because I go by North Hollywood, my studio.
It seemed like the crowds really like swelled big like like a few weeks ago.
And then it seems pretty sparse now.
But I don't know.
I mean, that's not a good sign if you're out there.
It's 90 degrees in L.A. right now.
You're out there with your sign.
And that's not a good, it's not what you want to hear.
Yeah, I think it's what we've said.
They have no negotiating leverage.
And whether what you believe is just or not,
you're negotiating at the wrong times where all these businesses are losing money when they weren't 90% reduction in profits in the top studios.
I just don't see how they cave.
They being the studios when their business models don't work.
Yeah.
Yeah, it looks like they're not going to.
Sorry for you guys.
Good luck.
I don't want you to be losers.
I want you to be happy and taken care of.
But I don't know.
It might be bad timing.
You got any content recommendations?
I saw the new mission impossible last night in theaters.
Look at you.
We can always count on you.
It was good.
I don't know if you've seen the clip on social media.
Like he actually drove a motorcycle off like a mountain.
And like,
actually pull his parachute.
And I was like,
you could see the people in the studio,
like,
or whatever the director's and producers,
like,
like, so nervous.
Like, when's he going to pull the the cord?
And that's a clip on social media.
Obviously not in the movie.
But I mean,
he's just,
I don't know if you've seen the clip on social media.
Like he actually drove a motorcycle off.
I mean, he's just,
I don't think we all ever see anyone like him again.
No, he's wild.
He does.
Did you see Top Gun in the theaters or not?
No, at home.
So in the theaters,
he, in Top Gun,
he does like a little prologue before the movie.
Yeah.
Like, saying, like,
how hard they worked.
And I hope you guys enjoy.
And he did the similar thing
to the mission impossible.
Like, this is why we come to the movies.
Yeah.
You can tell that guy.
I love cinema.
And I enjoyed.
So the goat, Tom Cruise.
I'll look away from all the Scientology craziness.
Yeah, you got to respect the art.
I just like, man, he's wild.
I just wonder, like, how long this guy's going to be like 80?
I feel like fucking jumping out of airplanes and shit.
Yeah.
I don't think he's slowing down.
Okay.
Well, good for him.
You got to,
you got to support him.
It's a great movie too.
Yeah.
Maybe I'll go see it.
I'm going to go back.
You know, stressful.
It must be.
Yeah.
You should go to I pick.
It's worth it.
Yeah.
How stressful it must be to be on the set with Tom Cruise.
You know, or to be like the studio who's like fronted all
of this money, you know, this guy's going to fucking die.
Or like a role actor.
Okay.
He doesn't like what you're doing.
He's telling you.
Yeah.
There's a famous story from Top Gun.
You know, the beach scene where they're all ripped and everyone's like,
yeah.
In perfect shape.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And apparently they had all died in like these crazy diets, like not drinking water.
Like just trying to get as ripped as possible for this scene.
Yeah.
And after the scene was filmed, the cast, not Tom Cruise, the rest of them, like
Miles Teller, all of them, they all were like, finally we can eat.
So they go to like the bar and eat drink beers and burgers or whatever.
Yeah.
And Tom Cruise calls him and says, I don't like the scene.
You got to refill.
Oh my God.
That really happened.
That happened.
I read it somewhere.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
He's wild, man.
He's a wild dude.
And these are like stars.
Miles Teller's not some like, you know, yeah, filling guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's so good.
I love.
I just love.
Could I feel like that used to be so normal?
I just love outlandish shit like that.
Yeah.
You know, like I feel like movie stars just used to be like that.
Just weird and, you know, demanding excellence.
Yeah.
I missed that.
Mine is I have a random one on Netflix.
There's a Arnold Schwarzenegger documentary that is oddly really good.
Wow.
And it's three parts.
And the first part is about him becoming a bodybuilding champion.
The second part is about him becoming a blockbuster actor.
And the third part is about him becoming a politician.
And I got to say, the guy is just very, you know, like put your mind to something,
at least the way that it's told, put your mind to it and do it.
He did these three very difficult things to do, sort of separately from each other,
or almost where like, you know, becoming an actor when he was a bodybuilder,
everyone said, like, that's not what an actor looks like.
So you're not going to do it.
And then becoming a politician, everyone was like, you're a bodybuilder actor.
You're not a politician.
And he did it.
And it's actually shockingly good.
Is there any negative stuff about him, or is it all positive?
There's a little negative about his flandering and his baby with public cleaning lady.
Yeah.
So I guess the problem with documentaries, when the subject's involved in the production of it,
you know, you're not getting the real story.
So like, well, when you said Walter Isaacson's doing the Elon.
Yeah.
I don't think Isaacson's going to compromise telling the truth.
And Elon's probably okay with that.
Yeah.
I agree.
I do agree.
Look, if you take that out of it, it's a good, it's very motivational,
the sort of like, I put my mind to these wild things and I did it.
You'd have to suspend judgment on that, put other stuff though.
Yeah.
But I agree with you.
Okay.
That's all I got.
What do we got?
Do we got shout outs?
Got some shout outs.
We'll do questions on Sunday.
Love it.
What do we got?
From Shrew to Dimple.
Dimple and Shrew, huh?
Interesting.
Happy birthday.
I hope you have an amazing day and year.
So Dimple, happy birthday to you.
Birthday.
And I'm just endlessly curious about Shrew and Dimple.
Like, is this these nicknames or these pet names you guys call each other?
They're Indians.
Dimple.
These are Indian names.
Yes.
Really?
Yeah.
You take your Indian card away.
Don't you dare.
Dimple, that's sick.
Okay.
Savannah.
From Savannah to Josh.
Happy 27th birthday to my favorite Kathy.
Okay.
Welcome to the question.
What's the team's best advice for that phase coming out of your early 20s and into your
30s?
I'll go first.
It's time to get your shit together.
It doesn't mean that you have to completely stop like going out and having fun, having some
drinks.
That's totally fine.
But I really think going from 20s into 30s, it's time to kind of buckle down, get your
plan together, you know, get your shit together.
That'd be my advice.
Yeah.
I think it's similar.
You have to start having a plan on where you want your life to be in 10 years.
Whereas in your 20s, you don't have to.
And it doesn't matter how successful or not successful you are.
Because you need to start thinking a little forward looking.
I agree.
I think that's the time to do it.
If you've already done it, you're ahead.
Keep doing what you're doing.
From Ernesto Palacios to go ahead on it.
V&A.
Okay.
You're the expert at this.
V&A.
Palacios.
We love the pod.
Ben Listenin sends the beginning.
I want to wish my wife a happy five year anniversary on July 11th, which is today when we're
recording this.
No, yesterday.
Oh yeah.
Happy anniversary yesterday.
And thank you guys.
Happy anniversary to the Palacios crew.
Congratulations.
There you go.
All right.
There you have it.
There's your rundown.
We'll be back on Sunday with the whole crew, I think, in the studio.
Yep.
Yeah.
Okay, great.
Everyone have a great rest of your week.
Enjoy it.
See you Sunday.
Bye.