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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of the Hunting Gear Podcast.
I'm your host Dan Johnson, and today we are going to continue the upgrades and modifications conversation,
but this time with a different guest.
Today we're going to be talking with Byron Horton.
Now Byron is the host of the Whitetail Experience Podcast right here on the Sportsman's Empire.
It's funny about what I'm about to say.
Byron is a serious bow hunter, right?
He's at the top when it comes to the seriousness level.
He's very particular about his gear, and so it was confusing to me why he told me he sold his truck,
and what he plans to do, and the new vehicle that he plans to use on his hunting trips.
I can just imagine this vehicle, if I close my eyes, I can imagine this vehicle pulling in to the parking lot of some public land,
and the other hunters see it, and they're like, well, this guy's not a threat.
So it is a fun episode. I think Byron and I are kind of in the same boat at this point.
We have just about everything that we need, right?
We've collected and curated a whole bunch of gear over the years, and so now we have found what we really like,
and there's not much sway from those things.
Now you'll hear him talk about upgrading, not really upgrading, but messing around with traditional archery
and how he plans to hunt using traditional archery.
We talk a little bit about clothing, we talk about e-bikes, we talk about trailer hitches, we talk about...
We have some other things.
You'll have to just listen to find out.
Before we get into today's episode though, I'm going to do some commercials here.
Let's see, today we are tethered.
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So, that is today's intro. Those were the commercials. Fun episode with Byron. Here we go.
Three, two, one.
All right. Today's guest on the Hunting Gear podcast, Mr. Byron Horton of the White Tail Experience podcast, Mr. Horton. How are we doing today?
We're doing well, Dan.
Doing good?
Yeah, I just got back from Minnesota last weekend. Did a little like turkey, not really hunting, but I filmed a turkey hunt.
Yeah.
And caught some, caught my first trout. Nice.
And it is spring here, like the weather's turned. I feel like we are on the up and up.
Yeah. You're wearing a hoodie. I'm wearing a hoodie. What two weeks ago was like 90, or last week, at one point it was 90 degrees.
And so here in Iowa, and so it's that springtime fluctuation going back and forth. Did you, do you get out and look for mushrooms at all?
No, I have not been in the turkey woods in my home state, actually. Too many home projects and the fact of the midnight runner. I've been taking my, my two year old as far as in the night shift is concerned.
Yeah. So the midnight runner, is he still getting out of bed every night?
Uh, less frequent for sure and like put downs are easier, but there have been a few nights where like we're in this screaming battle of he needs his animals tucked in a certain way and dude there's nothing more than I want to pull out a pocket knife and gut all these animals that are sitting in there.
Father of the year Byron Horton.
Just imagine how big of an impact that would be where, you know, like some guy come becomes real successful.
And they're like, so what was the moment in your life when you realized you had to quit screwing around and, you know, it was time to get serious.
You guys like, that's a funny story. My dad took a pocket knife and he gutted all of my stuffed animals. And I knew right then and there that it was time for me to change my ways.
Dude, it'll be a 45 minute battle of like the bunnies got to be able to see the tiger and you're like, dude, these guys don't care what they like really.
Yep. Yep. But what if the tiger eats the bunny? Have you ever asked him those types of questions?
That is a good conversation. There's also T rex in there. I feel like he would roll them.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well.
Well, it is like it's that time of year.
And I had a episode similar to what we're going to talk about, about upgrading, talking about new gear, talking about what we're trying to accomplish in the, you know, as far as our gear list is coming up.
And I'm going to talk about the gear list is concerned. If we're going to change anything, if we're going to upgrade, I had a little bit of a conversation like that last week.
And you hunt a little bit different than me. You hunt a little bit different than the last guy who was on the podcast. So I wanted to get you brought in.
And I'm going to talk about the very budget conscious when it comes to hunting gear and equipment. And so I'm just going to kind of cast the wide net here and ask you before the season starts.
Do you have any big purchases that you plan on making?
So I did just make a big purchase. I bought a stick bow. Oh, yeah. Okay.
And it was not cheap. And you also have, I have a striker RK one. Yeah, buddy.
So striker is an Ohio company, a little bit of self pride there. Yep.
But the riser is is a similar riser grip to one of my favorite compounds, the new breed archery, which is no longer even around. But that riser angle and grip is the same from the compound that I used to shoot back in it. And in fact, the new breed blade is still my backup.
So like, yeah, I'm and damn worth three days into it. Maybe I've got over a hundred arrows at this point, but like had to buy arrows had to had the guy play with some insert system to get my point weight to fly a little bit better there the shop.
So, you know, not only did I buy a bow, then I bought a, you know, a half dozen arrows. I'm probably going to buy another half dozen and I'll probably buy a 3D target this year.
Yeah. Yeah. And so, as of right now, are you splitting arrows yet? You Robinhood yet?
No, no, I'm trying to lose. Like, I'm shooting seven yards for the most point. I think this morning I step back to 10 and like I'm not going to go full send in the trad life like, yeah, I'm reserving the trump card of if I get a booner on camera I'm definitely ditching the stick bow.
Yeah. But my thought is maybe I'll stick bow hunt in October this year and then I'll grab the more efficient weapon come November when I'm, you know, the season's coming to a close.
It's it's getting to a point where the encounter may happen at a higher percent. But in five years, if I do this every October, I'll have five months of stick bow hunting experience and I got to believe that being, I'll just be a better deer hunter because everything is so much more magnified with the stick.
Yeah. How much did all that run you so far jumping into grandish thousand dollars and that includes the arrows.
Yeah, now I could have maybe found the bow used and cut three or four hundred dollars off that. But it's a model that's not very popular and people don't slip them as much.
So that's the thing like you can go buy like last year's Matthew's flagship bow pretty easily because so many people bought him and they flip them but like that particular stick bow doesn't get flipped as much.
And strikers a good brand too. So I would guess that guys who spend that type of money on a trad bow keep it long like long time.
Yeah, yeah, maybe I'm yeah, I've had those guys on the podcast actually before to talk about it. And the process that they go through to build their their stick bows is quite impressive.
I mean, it's very detailed. It's a very small, like it's a small but mighty type of organization and process that they put into it.
And I think the some of the guys who originally started the company.
If they're still not making the bows, their sons are, or you know, like the person that they taught, like the second person down is making all the bows so it's, I like those those types of companies.
Yeah, exactly. Now, Dan, I said I got to buy a 3D target. Do you have a recommendation there? This is your.
Yeah, man. I'm just going to say Reinhardt.
From my experience, Reinhardt's number one, take the most abuse.
I've got two Reinhardt's in the backyard. There the booner buck, two booner bucks. I got one in on my back property line.
And 10 yards further down is another one. So I can, and I got a little bit of an angle on my hill so I can shoot 20 and 30, or I can shoot 30 and 40, or, you know, and so on. So I have a 10 yard stagger.
And so, man, they're really durable. The way that they're put together, they are, you know, you can throw off over 500 grain arrow down at them, and they're not going to knock over. They're not going to fall over.
And I've got other brands that I've used in the past, just man, one arrow into it at the right point, at the right angle, the whole thing falls apart. So now you got to get these big long decking screws, and you got to screw into the chest to try to hold the insert in, and then it
And then over time that loosens up. And, you know, the whole, I feel like on the, the one that I'm talking about, it took its fair share arrows, but it's still not anywhere close to the amount. I mean, this is going on three years, four years of heavy shooting at these targets.
And they're still taking arrows, and they're still, you know, some of them in the right spot and arrow will go through. But all I got to do is kind of rotate it in, you know, rotate it, and it will, it'll, or shoot at it a little bit back and put a little sticker on the thing.
And now that's my, my target. And, and from a weather standpoint, they've held up to the weather very well. And so I'm just, I'm just kind of a huge fan of Morell's, excuse me, I'm sorry, of Reinhardt's.
Outside of that, I've had a couple Morell's. They were like the stuffed bag. Those, if you have an insert on your arrow, sometimes that, that mesh webbing arrow goes through, and there's like a pop.
And that pop is that mesh webbing connecting on the insert. And so I've lost a couple inserts from that type of repetitiveness.
And, and then the ball, you know, if it rains and you forget to take the bag in, it fills up, it fills up, and then that inside starts to expand and it pokes through and it's just, I don't know.
So long story short, I suggest you get a Reinhardt.
All right, I'll move that to the research list. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Yes, an offer, I'll tell you which one to not get.
To definitely do not get this brand. And I don't want to talk shit on anybody today. I'm feeling positive. So I'll just do it off.
All right, so, so that's going to increase, right? Because depending on what target, you know, could be 100, 200, 300 bucks depending on the target that you, that you pick up.
They have the caribou or the elk or the bull moose. They might even have a Sasquatch. You could your boy would like that get the Sasquatch target.
Yeah, that's true.
So now you're starting to stack up a little bit, you know, and you're in that 1300 range, potentially. Another half dozen arrows. What arrows are you going with?
So they are the Easton, I think legacy, I believe is the model type.
And it just kind of came down to what the shop had that fit the traditional setup. There's not as many options out there.
At most shops, I was fortunate enough to go to a shop that.
Oh, a stick bow shooter works at.
And so like, I got a lesson for an hour and we set up my bow. So nice. You know, yeah, and, and, you know, if a shop's a little better class.
Which this one is at a boy's archery like I'm okay with spending a little money at the shop, you know, because that goes to them that goes to their, they stay in business.
It's one of those things I feel okay spending money there. Yeah, I feel you.
And then are those arrows specifically for trad bows or is there crossover to the compound world world with those?
Well, they do come like a bludged with feathers. So like, they might even be a touch too big for like, if you were shooting a whisker biscuit or drop away, there might be some contact like I don't, I'm not going to speak out of it, but they are like.
They look like wooden grain, but it's a carbon arrow underneath. Yep.
And obviously with feathers like they're set up for trad bows like I do think that that's what what it's.
Target is if you will for that particular make model. Yeah.
And so what kind of restraints have you put on yourself saying, I need to do this by this date in order to feel comfortable taking that bow out into the woods and trying to kill something with it.
Yeah, I think 15 yards. And I'm saying I've got a hit five out of five arrows within, I'm going to say a softball like that's that's pretty solid like I can go.
And I'm calling this this style of hunting like a Comanche mode for October where I need to be scouting. I think I'm only going to take two sticks.
I'm going to take a very small tree stand that I probably would not hunt within the rut when I would be sitting longer hours kind of thing. Right.
And I just want to have fun I've minimized down my filming setup to I'm thinking about taking a arm arm down from two segments to one.
I got this smaller fluid head that is even half the weight of my current setup.
But I kind of want what I call like like some commands he hunts where I'm just in the woods. Yes. Fully like scouting fully engaged in and I got the stick bow that's lighter to carry than the compound like that.
That's kind of what I think I want for October maybe next year.
That and the fact that I said this I think on the last podcast or another podcast where we talked about traditional archery.
I definitely see myself going down that route at some point.
But the people who are getting the job done.
Like with a stick bow dude that is just badass is such a badass like who's the guy.
He says I know him but I forget his name that Jared Shafer right from white white tail of gentleman.
That's what he does with his stick bow is bad ass period.
And so and so the only thing that I can compare it to is in rugby.
Really the only thing you would wear is a nut cup and a mouth guard. That's it. There's no helmets or anything.
But some guys would wear scrum hats if they didn't want to get beat up on their ears or things like that.
Which is like a soft helmet. We would make fun of them a little bit.
And so just imagine how badass like I don't know like nobody's making fun of Jared.
Right. Yeah. The dude is just he number one he's flaying and he's doing it with a stick bow.
And that's like the pinnacle of archery if you ask me.
Yeah. To me too like I am giving greatness a chance.
Yeah. Yes. Where like I could shoot like a stud buck with a stick bow at 10 yards.
And like at that point like that's a trump card at any conversation.
Exactly. But it's like getting a chance to shoot a game winning shot.
Like you can never be the hero if you don't take the shot.
Exactly. Yeah. Just imagine. And I know guys out there.
There's a guy who killed like a 380 bull with a stick bow.
And he packed it out himself. And he's a solo hunter. He does it.
He does it all by himself. And like and so when it comes to like that solo.
Now now you're solo. Now you're on public land. Now you're on stick bow.
Like stories just don't get better than that. Right.
There like when it comes to telling a hunting story. Like how would I go?
I want I hunt private land in Iowa with a compound.
Like the story can't be beat that I don't know. It's nuts.
Yeah. Yeah. And like in five years, what if like two years from now,
I turn up the biggest buck of my life. Yeah.
And I'm picking an ambush point on November 5th.
If I've got experience where that ambush point needs to be within 15 yards,
like I think you're just going to read it better if you if you put it on the line where you're like,
yeah, my kill radius is 15 yards and I've got this bigger 60 limb inch bow and I got to be tucked in like you're just going to be more dialed, right? Right. Right.
I mean, that's my goal when it comes to like saddle setups and tree stand setups is to get 10 yards.
Like I want a 10 yard shop. I want I want the to be broadside at the closest possible closest range possible.
That's how I don't set up off anything. I want to be right on the dot in my setups, but that's more strategy.
You know, the gear obviously helps you be selective and in that, but outside of your bow, your arrows, your target, any any other purchases or new gear that you plan on picking up.
Before the season starts.
Hmm. Let's see here.
Um.
I got to get a.
I have a hitchhauler, but I got to get a hitch put on the the mom mobile. I'll be driving this year and I sold my pickup truck. So I'll probably actually look to.
Rig that thing up pretty solid, you know, maybe have some extra back storage for that. And like I said, I got to get a hitch put on for an hitchhauler.
As far as like clothes and layers, anything there. When you say when you say mom mobile.
Are you going to put a hitch on like a Dodge Caravan?
Uh, not much. Not much better.
For for financial reasons and looking ahead to the future. I am I'm definitely driving a vehicle that screams, I get a Starbucks. Okay. All right.
But but that that is also setting up a farm down payment. So that's a fact. That's a fact. Well, hey, you can take the seats out or fold the seats down in a lot of those vehicles and you can put a deer in the back on a tarp.
Yeah. Yeah. There is that I have the jet sled to that can contain some of the juices and blood. Yeah.
Yeah. I got to get that thing kind of ready to go.
I don't think I've got anything. Last year I did do some testing for for XOP and so like I knew my mobile setup coming this fall. It's not going to change. Right.
Which is nice. I'll probably buy some sort of aider system for my command. She hunts what I'm only taking two sticks because I do want to get stupid high per stick. And so there's a couple companies that have emerged on the market obviously that specialize in like very cool aftermarket
eaters that like tuck into themselves and you had a guy on from from Genesis 3D printing stuff like those guys make right. Right. So I will be looking to maximize those two sticks. And so yeah, if anybody out there listening, so I did in my DMS because that is that is going on right now.
I caught a podcast from a fleet that they've on their YouTube. He teased several new gear items and one is a windproof fleece jacket. And I just got to believe my current windproof fleece jacket is is not near that quality that I believe that that one's going to be.
Yeah. So I will probably do that. I like, you know, I kind of like what I like as far as clothing and I do like fleece for the quiet factor and you had windstop to it which rewind I don't know mid 2000s I was rocking a fleece that if it blew over eight miles an hour it was just flying right through.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you this man. When it, I don't, I'm not, I'm familiar with fleets bass layers, not the rest of their equipment so it's been a while since I've tested out any other stuff.
They're their bass layers were a bit itchy, but they they kept warm. They kept me, you know, they did they did exactly what Marino is supposed to do. And so my only experience was the, was the bass layers that they sent me.
And I think that this year, I'm going to be messing around with some hunt worth camel or the hunt worth brand. Okay, yes camel. I'm not sure how familiar you are with them. But according to my research.
They are sick of for the working man. And so it's, it is that kind of quality, but at a more affordable price. And so I've been, I've been looking into it a little bit and seeing what I, what I, you know what I could pick up for my Western type
of hunts that could cross over because I really like to focus on gear these days where I could use them in both situations. I can use it in Western hunt, like a spot and stock where I'm in South Dakota, or, you know, this year, I'm still waiting to hear back from Kansas on a hunt, which that's going to just be a saddle slash tree stand hunt.
And if I go down there, I'm also going to try to hit Oklahoma while I'm down there. And so I don't know what, what I'm going to be picking up from hunt worth. But I feel like I need.
Here, I have a pretty much a really good base layers already. I have, I like the shell jacket or the, not the shell jacket, the, the Eddie Bauer installation layer that I have the puffy jacket.
And then I'm looking for something to get over top of that. That's where I want my windproof. So I want some kind of fleece windproof jacket. They have a couple options and a couple different camel patterns.
And so I'm looking to get like a shell jacket with a hood, potentially, you know, you know, the pockets in the right spots to put, you know, rangefinder, grunt call, that kind of stuff so that's it. Everything else is pretty much dialed in. I'm going to be picking up more socks this year.
I'm going to also be probably be buying another pair of boots, like hiking boots. I don't use rubber boots. And then more socks, more boots. And then I've made the decision last week I said screw it. I'm going to keep my same bow.
And then I'm going to take it into the shop and just get new strings on it. That's it. Yeah, that. I think there's something to that as far as keeping the same bow.
I do. I talked to a guy who's pretty dialed and, you know, being so familiar with your shooting system. I think there's a there's a win there. There's there's familiarity.
I like that. I yeah, when I can and when I do that, I like it. And if I don't have to change strings, you're so much ahead of the game come literally April turkey seasons over you can start shooting your bow.
Yep. Yep.
There was something I was going to ask you.
Oh, you talked about socks. I just blew, I think, like $130 on like five or six pairs of like better wool socks.
What brain did you go with? So, I'll Tara. Dude, they chit swish swish. You just didn't you nailed it.
I know exactly what you're talking about. Those socks are bad after the prevails.
I got so I can do it. I loaded up. I got the the Explorer, which is a little bit lighter than the prevails. Yep. And then I got a couple pairs of the prevails as well. And like, I, I bought a pair couple pairs like six years ago and I've just.
I mean, they're six years old. They've seen some miles and I was like, they had a show special at the deer in Turkey Expo. I don't know, 10, 15% off website price.
And I was like, well, at that, I'm gonna buy four or five pairs. Yeah. Yeah.
Because they're not cheap. They're they're what? One need $30 a pop depending on what model. Mm hmm.
But like, I was like, okay, at this rate, I don't want to be searching for socks November 4th when I just wore a pair of the prior day. I'm like, I only have two pairs of prevails. No. Yeah.
Like, I just want to go to the drawer. There's already a pair to in there. Yeah. Dude, something about those socks that I really like is number one.
My feet do not get sweaty in them hardly ever. And that's in that's in Western heat. Okay. So there was a couple days where in the morning, it was cool.
So I put on my my prevails and then, you know, it gets hotter throughout the day. I'm not going back to the truck. I didn't have an extra pair of socks with me. And my feet never got sweaty.
Me they they may have got a little warm, but those are so good at waking moisture away. Second, I stepped in like a crick crossing a like a crick when I was out there. One boot got wet. One sock got wet.
And so I had another pair of another pair of boots there. And so I hung that sock up in while I was sleeping and it dried. You know, you ring it out and it dried overnight. And so not only not only does it wick moisture away, but they dry extremely fast.
If for some reason they do get wet. And that is a product that brand right there. I don't know why I'm getting this fired up about socks. But that brand right there has made me a like, I'm not going to go really look anywhere else.
If I want to buy some wool socks or alpaca socks. I'm I'm going to Alterra straight up like they're that good. And I know the owner and he's pretty cool guy. So why not.
Yeah, yeah I agree. I've bought one other pair from a competitive brand. And they were nice but like I didn't think they were as good as the Alterra. Yeah.
I have a I have a pair of darn tough wool socks that I also wear a lot. But now that now that Altera has those explorers which is the lighter style of sock.
I feel like I'm just going to load up on those get you know get some of those. So that's man. That's it. I don't. Oh, I talked about this last week. I'm going to buy a new or another backup battery for my e-bike.
But other than that man, this is this is kind of a low key year for me as far as what I would call spending. I'm not. I'm spending to replace not necessarily to upgrade this year.
Yeah. Did you plan on using the e-bike to get the deer out the woods. I remember we had. Oh yeah. Last about adding a jet sled in like a mini tow rope. Yeah.
As an option or maybe some sort of slight sliding device. Yeah. I can see on on not on my main farm. But on the new farm that I have access to. If it rains a lot.
There's about a hundred yards of the two track that I don't think I could drive on. I would be able to drive on. And so.
Until it gets to this grass. And so once I get to the grass I'd be fine. But I could see myself having to drag that deer in wet like you know wet condition only.
You know the half mile to my truck maybe even a little. Yeah, I would say about a half mile half mile to my truck to where.
I could actually get the truck somewhere to get to get it. But.
I have I have a sled sitting in a garage in a little garage at my mom's house that I could use or a kids sled kids. You know like a toboggan type deal.
I've done that before. And that seems to work fine. But as far as pulling something. I don't know how it would work until I try it.
So maybe I tell you what I'll do. I'll load the kids up on the sled and pull them in the bike and see how much weight I can get away with.
I feel like the listening audience needs like a real like an Instagram real to follow up on that this conversation because that that's a legit concern or a huge win for the e-bike community right if like you know it can pull.
Let's just call it a 200 pound gut of deer like oh wow. Me personally like I never see myself at this point owning a four wheeler.
I may get access to ground hunt other places. The e-bike it stores way smaller profile in a shattered garage loading it is way easier as far as like you know just a hitch bike system on the back of your vehicle or in the bed of a tailgate like.
I always thought I don't a four wheeler at some point in my life because I'd have ground it to need it and now I'm I bet I never end up with a four wheeler purchase.
Yeah. The issue that I ran into with an e-bike was I bought mine and I had stipulations on what I could buy. Number one I wanted it for access.
And so that meant I had to it I didn't really want to carry too much stuff even though I probably could with the model that I have.
But I also in order to make it public land illegal in some some of these scenarios. I had to have a motor that was 750 watts 1000 is too high.
I had to have the ability to disconnect the throttle. So that makes it a class one a class a class one e-bike.
And so on certain public lands class one is legal meaning you don't you have to pedal for the motor to be engaged.
You have to pedal the throttle has to be disconnected and you can't use it. So that's a class one which makes it legal on at least the states that I've researched.
Like Iowa I don't think Iowa really has a law in Nebraska really doesn't have a an e-bike law per se. So.
Every state has a different rule every piece of ground whether it's state or core of engineers or BLM or forestry or gas grassland.
They all have different rules on e-bikes. So I just wish there were in some instances the state says.
Oh yeah big e-bike at any size e-bike at any size is legal but then the federal ground in that state has its own rules.
Right because federal ground does have some different rules. Yeah. Yep exactly. And even state ground has different rules. So it's very it's very gray right now.
And so it's like I don't think conservation officers are really doing too much about it.
Is that it? Is that a trust path?
No that is a dough on the back of just a regular mountain bike. Oh perfect perfect. We have done it but that clip has never seen the light of day because it's very obvious where you are.
Yeah. But we have hunted places where like oh let's take a bike even like 400 yards so much easier. Yeah but yeah.
Getting deer outs very possible I feel like with you had a motor to that right. We got it out with a pedal power bike. Yeah absolutely.
When the point I'm trying to make here is I wish states like I feel like I'm taking advantage of a loophole kind of in a way only because there's no black and there's nothing black and white right now.
And so I feel like the state like the E-bike community or the E-bike, whoever the people in charge are in the states need to come and go here is it's just basically yes or no. Yes it's good here.
No it's not. Yes it is. No it's not. And get it straightened out so people know. I know a couple people who are just like 100% anti-e-bike.
And they're like if you need to knee bike then you need to hunt closer to your truck or whatever the situation.
Meanwhile I went back six miles this year. Six miles in like 40 minutes. It was beautiful. Beautiful that far back.
Yeah I mean we have ground here where it's like ATV friendly.
So you can easily bypass this for certain places and stuff like yeah I hear you on the state definitely needs to adapt and just black and white it.
Don't make any guesswork.
Fact fact. And so outside of that you know outside of an extra battery. I think I'm good for the year man. I think this is going to be a this is going to be kind of a chill year.
And I think I'm going to have like I'm in a chill five year period I think I'm in it right now because I don't see other than maybe a new bow next year or the year after.
I don't think I'm going to be buying too much gear in the upcoming years maybe at a trail camera here and there as my old trail cameras start to fizzle out.
Yeah but there is always upkeep items I feel like we just talked about stocks you know stuff comes along where you like it breaks I need a new one or arrows same thing if you lose one or break a few like you kind of got to maintain a certain level.
Yep absolutely absolutely. I got a stack of arrows up here in the storage room next to my office that I'm just going to take them in.
I'm going to strip. I'm going to strip the current veins on them. I'm going to put new new fletchings on and they're going to I got new air you know I got pretty much brand new arrows again.
And so it's going to be really you know I think they charge me $2 per arrow to flex them. And so let me ask you this question.
Have you ever thought about buying a bow press or arrow fletching kit to start doing any of that yourself.
I think it's a very narrow fletching thing. Back in the day that was a little easier to do you can sit in front of the TV and glue your own fletchings you get a little lower tier because it's just now.
I don't know didn't do a good enough job right right.
I'm messing with archery equipment at a higher level and needing a bow press like I think I'm out on that I think I'd rather I'd rather be doing other things and money and time and learning that craft yeah like I'd rather go fishing
I'd rather maybe go shoot some guns like yeah there's just other things that I got a much higher priority on.
Yeah, yeah. Do you have a you know I think you mentioned the four wheeler you know you're kind of on the fence about whether or not you're going to get a four wheeler.
But are there any like I wish I had the money for this type of products that you know obviously it's a no go right now but if I don't know work throws you a big bonus or some or somehow you get a big raise or you know yeah your your grandma goes.
Hey here's this much money like any any type of gear that you you would upgrade on.
Yeah I mean as far as maybe maybe my my firearm setup is not as dialed as it could be like I have an 870 with a field barrel slug like or a field barrel on it you know for shooting pheasants turkey stuff like that.
I don't have like the 870 like rifled barrel or I could go straight wall cartridge.
I've thought about maybe the 350 legend because it's from what I've read.
It's a very low recoil gun and very like it could be for my son.
If you will and we can double dip with it because I think there's companies like Mossberg maybe even savage as well where they have like replaceable stock pads on the back end to like make it bigger so like I could hand it to him in like five six.
And I could hunt with it now and have something that's definitely upgraded from my my my classic firearm 870 right now I take my muzzle loader a lot of times.
If I'm gun hunting.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah I don't own I own a Mossberg.
I just happened to find another one when I was cleaning my closet out.
So my I have my Mossberg 20 gauge it has built in choke in it.
That thing has killed a lot of turkeys and and pheasants throughout the years.
I have a single shot.
I don't even know if there's a brand name on on on it.
It's a single shot 20 gauge.
You know it just folds down through the slug.
You're going to hold back up and then.
Man I forget the name of it but it's made in Italy.
It is a over under shot gun that Sarah my wife Sarah her uncle gave to us as kind of a gift.
He's like I don't use it here.
Maybe you guys can use it.
It's a 12 gauge over under it's gorgeous.
It's like an it's not like necessarily an antique piece but it was made in the 60s.
And so it's a it's a sweet looking gun and I feel like I'm going to I need to take it in and do it justice and get it cleaned and get it.
inspected to make sure everything's working properly and then.
Go out and do something with it like whether it's just ski shooting or I mean it looks like it could be the world's best ski shooting gun.
That's cool.
Yeah I would if I I was handed a big check.
I'd probably get a few.
Fire Army type things like a like a single shot for 10.
It's like ultra light.
Yeah.
For for I used to squirrel hunt a lot back in the day but like I know the 410 with the TTS pellets is a popular for Turkey now.
Yeah.
With some of its abilities I think would be cool to have.
I I'd probably get a real nice 1911 like I have like.
I thought at this point in my life I'd have a few more firearms but I get head over heels into into bow hunting right.
I would like 10 years ago so.
I also want one of those closets have you have you seen the movie commando with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Where I don't think so.
Okay so you got to watch it.
There's a part where in commando he breaks into this gun store and there's a room with just everything in it like rocket launchers and like.
Just a variety of different like all these like I guess you would call them assault weapons they're not you know the loose term there.
But all these crazy like automatic shotguns and things.
I can I if I had the money I want a room like that.
Like I want an apocalypse apocalypse room in my where I'm not like I'm not ever going to run out of ammo.
I would be I would be ready for the police force if they came knocking with all their all their stuff so I would love to have I would love to have some kind of room like that but.
That's more of a dream and I don't shoot guns enough to justify spending that type of money.
I just got a flashback of the Matrix you had mentioned the Arnold Soresy man like be my generation I feel like the Matrix where he steps in there and like.
These sliding shelves come out and they're picking shoes like 500 different things but yeah I'd have me I'd have me some more fun toys if I stumbled upon a large sample cash.
Heck yeah.
So I heard do you have a boat like a Johnboat.
I have a canoe.
I had a Johnboat at one point in my life and sold it and kind of regret it.
Okay. That's another thing that I'm thinking about picking up is just a very small.
River not not Mississippi River but small riverboat.
I can get shallow I can go I can you know put in somewhere put upstream put downstream and 100% for access.
And it wouldn't be for fishing it wouldn't it might be for running bank poles if I have the boat I would want to do that run bank poles and access routes take it down to Oklahoma or take it down to Kansas and you know a lot of those places have rivers that run through them.
And so you know put it in and take it up take it upstream and just anchor it to the side get back in turn it around like something something real small.
And I don't do a lot of it right now but I feel like if I had a boat I would definitely start doing it.
Yeah I killed a doe back in the day on a Johnboat.
And then me and the guys I hunt with I have the canoe but like you know if somebody wants to use it for a particular hunt they can and we may or may not use it a little more than we let on.
I'll tell you this back in the day I bought that Johnboat for I think 250 bucks I had a deep cycle battery I got for free and I bought a $100 trolling motor.
And I have no money back in the day but me and my current wife we used to go fishing and I used to lay a piece of plywood between the first and middle seat and she would tan and I would cruise around on this Johnboat.
And for like no money I was redneck yuck clubbing it up.
Buying a Johnboat like and I flipped it you know I sold it for the same money I had into it now I've heard obviously when you get into a higher end boats all they are as money pits but yeah I feel like the Johnboat you can you're not going to lose too much and it's a cool toy.
Yeah you know Lucas Psycho right? Yeah he told me that one of his goals in life is to use a jet ski to go into some of this public back door some of this public on a jet ski that kill a deer and somehow get it out on a jet ski.
If I ever see that happen I don't know if that story could be topped.
Yeah I shot it you know I shot it at what was your access route.
Well I had a Polaris jet ski or a Sea Dew and I went up this back water and you know that would be that would be something to see.
Now so I don't have the most jet ski experience but like you get pretty soaked on them like you'd have to have a good system or maybe a big enough jet ski right that it would that you wouldn't get water and I got to think you got your backpack on you.
Yeah I don't see it being like a stand up jet ski that you see in the 80s movies but more of a bigger sit down jet ski and I don't you know unless it's really choppy or there's a lot of boat traffic.
I don't think you're getting too terribly wet unless you want to and so big old you know maybe a big pair of rubber boots or some some gators.
Yeah you can do duck hunting waiters on your driving.
Exactly exactly and you'd be money you'd be fine.
Hey let's do it.
Let's just do it.
Let's just do it.
Hey Graham we're doing it. We're going to buy a jet ski. Here we go. Byron. Man I appreciate you taking time out of your day today to hop on here and BS with us appreciate it and hopefully all of your purchasing that you do comes easy and you make the right decisions for this upcoming season.
That's right man.