The Power Slam Podcast - Collision Rating, Seth Rollins On NXT & More

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Ich denke, das ist eine wöste Zeit, zu großen Numbers, die ich glaube, in welcher Weise in den Netwerk fährst du, weil du, ich glaube, vielleicht diese Woche die Religion-Number wird geholfen, denn es ist der Nacht-Before für Bidden-Doll, und es gibt noch mehr Interests in einem go-home-Eppi-Sort-of-The-Programm, und es gibt noch einige Tage, natürlich auch. Ja. Wir sagen, once wir 5-6 Wochen in, wenn die Numbers sind, etwa 6-50 Mio. Vielleicht, du know, das wird gut. Vielleicht, du sagst, du weißt, das ist nicht ein Bad-Number für Saturday Night, die ich glaube, kann helfen. AEW, denn es ist nicht ein enormes Präscher, um eine Million Viewers alle Saturday Night zu machen. Das ist mein Viewer, nicht? So, ja, ich glaube, ich weiß, es gibt immer viele Competition-Sport-Sorten, oder es gibt sicherlich viele Jahre. Aber ich denke, das wird, das wird, du know, für zu mechanismen geht. Aber vielleicht nicht foundational. Es wird ja zusammengekommen, und zu sehr улиcen zu verstehen hat. Ja,bolt 16. Ich glaube, der Koncenses in dieser Lübe, ist es ein ponerer Bad-Number? Er ist ja das große Community, glaube ich, repeatet nur vierevenzig, Ja, well, not many, but you know, if Dynamite kind of does 800-900-1000 as its average and you know this has done 8-16 this Saturday is not bad. I mean what I thought was interesting comparison was the first rampage back in 2021, August 2021, did 749,000 years. So it's done more than that. And like you said, I think because on a Saturday and because there's not an expectation for it to get a million viewers and I think that's going to be competition all the time. Whether it's WWE pay-per-views, UFC pay-per-views, college basketball, was that college world series? Yeah, it was loads of sports on Saturday night, isn't that loud? Yeah, so I mean, you know, I assume Warner just paid it because they're like if we can get, you know, 650,000 viewers on a Saturday night for a show, that's great for us. So and I think the thing that I think is more likely to help them this time than rampages because rampage as we know we've discussed so many times became a kind of, you know, I mean, I don't know what the opposite of musty is. Misseless. Miscible. Miscible. Miscible show within like week four. Whereas this time it's you know punk is primarily for the most part going to be on collision as are a lot of other people. So hopefully there's more of a reason for people to to tune in and see what happens. So Well, I mean, AEW's got to give people a reason, hasn't it? So it's not whole busy. It's like AEW needs to make this more sea. He needs to give people a reason. And I'm sure you've reasoned this Saturday, but will there be a reason on week three, four, five, six when the novelty has worn off? And people are then, you know, customers, it's like, you know, it's a big ask. I mean, AEW is, I mean, it's a lot of you week that's been now devoted to AEW when you think about it. If you got, okay, lots of AEW viewers give rampage a miss for obvious reasons. I mean, I watch it, but I mean, I can understand why a lot of people don't. I mean, you've got two hours of dynamite, two hours of collision. You can have three hours plus probably four hours of forbidden all this weekend. It is a lot of product that they're putting out, isn't each week. And you can reach that point of oversaturation, especially if the product, especially if it's not all, must see. What I thought was interesting last night, so I thought they did a pretty good job last night of kind of building stuff for collision this Saturday with the eight man tag and various matches and the announcement of who's staying in Derby's partner is going to be. The thing I was really surprised at is the kind of went full pill to try and promote rampage as well, you know, MJF, because first appearance, everyone rampage, Osprey's wrestling the tag match. So there's a bunch of stuff on that. I mean, collisions got a ton of hashie match on on Saturday. And he's wrestling swear of Strickland, if I remember correctly, yeah, he's swear of Strickland. So I mean, you're not going to do that every week. You're not going to do it every week. They want to promote the both shows of that and, you know, really collisions are showing that you want to be pushing, you know, because that's the big one. But yeah, so that is the that is the first rating. We'll see what the next one is. I did want to bring up the match from Tuesday next May next to Seth Rollins and Bronn Breaker. They went like 17 minutes. I know we discussed on the podcast about how would Fennbauer enter fear and sort of cost the match or really not, but he did get involved after the match. Seth won the match. What did you make of the match itself? Yeah, I thought I thought it was really well done. I mean, Rollins and stuff with the storyline rib injury or rib injury as a result of the attack by Fennbauer on Raw. So that was a factor in the match. Obviously, you know, Breaker when he hit the big spear, you know, that looked like maybe he might score the upset, might become World Champion. People were willing to believe for a few seconds that the title could possibly change hands. Of course, he didn't. I think Rollins put in a hell of a performance. He even did a splash from the top rope onto Breaker who was lying on the announce table and the announce table collapsed. That was a big spot in the match and then Rollins sold the ribs afterwards. You know, I thought Breaker, you're really showed that he's ready for the main roster. He's been ready for the main roster now for, I think for a few months. I think this heel character will serve him well. I mean, when he was a face, he was, he was somebody who some of the fans didn't like because he just came across a bit he leash and now he's got cat blanche to just ramp that up and just run with it and just be obnoxious and unpleasant, you know, an offensive to the audience and to his opponents. So I think it's really come together very well for Grand Breaker. I'm curious to see when they call him up because it feels to me like there's nothing left for him now in AEW. Maybe you can have, maybe there's a couple more matches but he's obviously peaked and he's just really waiting for the call now. I think, you know, had had they had big plans for him still on AEW. I think it would have been a DQ finish because it was the right way. We can't job Breaker out here. We can't beat Jay Breaker here. Even to Seth Rollins, we have him lose to Seth Rollins because we've got all these things that we want him to do still. So I think that was very much confirmation that he's time in NXT is coming to a close. Yeah, I mean, it's funny because I don't watch a lot of the NXT. So this was the first time I'd watched Breaker in a while and he's, I mean, he's, he's coming on so much more even than like when he did that match in Dallas with Dolph Ziegler than I have to wrestle with me now last year. He feels way, but he's come on so much from that. Never mind how good he was then for something new. And yeah, he just, Evan Lee does seems to be crisp. He knows what he's doing. He's, he's, he's confident. And yeah, I think he, I thought he hung, he hung with Seth Rollins. He did well. And yeah, I think we should get him up soon. I think you don't want the Bayley situation to think and where Bayley was kind of left for almost a year after the rest of the four horse women when they were all called up and she was just kind of still around. So I'm hoping that he maybe gets called up right after SummerSlam. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, he's a very refined performer now. He's a lot of finesse there. He knows what to do when to do it. He knows where to be. He knows where not to be. He knows what to do. And he, and more importantly, he knows what not to do in his matches. So he's fine tuned his act. He knows exactly what he's doing out there. And yeah, he's ready to go. So I would think, yeah, post SummerSlam, Raw or SmackDown doesn't matter which, I think he's going to do well wherever he goes. Yeah, so very good night for him and for Seth. So, and it was nice to see Baller there as well to kind of play into that story. So there was some reports on obviously CM Punk's promo from last week and his interview with Sports Illustrator, which I know you've covered in the new What else is going down. ESPN, ESPN, ESPN. ESPN, ESPN. And then he spoke to before his return. You spoke of what else is going down. People can be on Patreon. But there's a report come out that's basically said that part of the issue is that basically he's not allowed legally to say anything about the young bucks. And people in the young bucks camp think that, you know, because he can't say anything about the bucks. But he can say something on the page that that's why he chose to kind of go for him a little bit. And I think Dave Meltzer, who is partly young bucks, had said even if privately he believed, he believed all the stuff, this wasn't the time to do it. And Paige is not someone that's going to answer bags. He becomes the bad guy. There was a feeling that he went after Paige because he's friends with the young bucks. And he's saying a thing where he couldn't go after the bucks. I mean, did you get that impression when you read it that that was what he, that that was the motive behind it? Or did you get the impression that he was, you know, not going to back down from Mancer on a question? How did, how did you take the way he kind of had words for Adam Pooge? What, you mean the quote in the interview in which he described how their relationship deteriorated, disintegrated, and they had the big fallen out. Yeah. Well, I mean, he was asked a straight question about it. And he gave what I think was a straight answer to the question about why he'd fallen out with with Hangman Adam Page and how it had all gone wrong. So, you know, Paige had come out and said, you know, I'm defending, not only defending the world title against you. I'm defending AEW against you. That was the line, wasn't it? Yeah. And, and Punk wasn't happy about it. He felt like he crossed the line and gone into business for himself. And according to Punk in the ESPN interview that was published the day before a collision, he said that he, that he did speak to Paige about it backstage. And he did try to sort it out there and then before he escalated. I think that was the impression that he gave in the interview. Yes. It was, yeah. Yeah. That's why it's exciting. And, and Paige, it didn't work. And he claimed that Paige stiffed him, like, patated him with a chop to the face and chipped his tooth. I think Paige said that he didn't retaliate to that, with a potato in return. But felt, you know, aggrieved by it. So, like, Paige was perhaps taking liberties. I mean, I'm sure in wrestling, obviously, occasionally stiff shots are thrown accidentally. Sometimes they're thrown deliberately. And, you know, who knows what a person's motivation is, only the person who actually threw the blow knows their motivation. And they're probably not going to tell the truth. Well, they're both still working for the same company. Because it, you know, looks unprofessional. If you say, yeah, I stiffed him. And so, I don't really feel like Punk was out of order with what he said in that interview with ESPN. I think those were his true feelings. And he explained why it had all unraveled. And, you know, that was the beginning of the problems, wasn't it? That incident, you know, the blow up with Paige was that then led to the the fiasco in September. And that was the start of it. But I mean, as we said many times last year, this should have been, Tony Khan should have got involved. You know, he should have some one of the one of the agents or producers should have got involved. There shouldn't have been just left a punk and Paige to sort it out. There should have been management intervention to make sure that this did not, you know, escalate into the crisis that he did that resulted in Paige leaving the, uh, resulted in Punk leaving the company for, for nine months and the elite having a little holiday and rest of it. So, um, I don't know what Punk said was fair. I mean, I can't argue. I mean, it's hard to know, isn't it? I mean, what you'd have to then, Paige would then have to go on the record, wouldn't it? He would have to do an interview to explain his side of the story. Now, we know that Paige said those words on dynamite last year. We can go back and listen to them. And that, to me, was the first sign that there was a problem. And he was the one who officially did start this by going into his business room, so first and then Punk responded. Um, because he felt that, you know, his pride had been dented and he felt like he needed to say something in return. And we talked about this last year, Kenny. There should have been Tony Khan. If he was any sort of leader, he would have quashed this. He would have squashed this straight away, got him in a room and sorted it out. And he didn't. Well, let me, let me ask you this, because obviously, something that's interesting that not a lot of people talk about is that Hangman Adam Paige has not done any media for AEW since last August, I think, or since all it does no interviews with him. He doesn't do anything. Do you think, does that, does that help him? Does that hurt him? Do you think it's smart for him to kind of, for him and AEW to go right? Let's not have Paige. Can you know if he speaks to someone, they're going to ask him a bit. That's, you know, if you're, if you're worth your soul as an interviewer, when you speak to Adam Paige, you have to bring up. There's just no way around it. So, do you think it helps for her to send that Paige chooses not to comment about it? Um, well, so long as this thing lingers and festers, then I don't think it really helps him at all. I mean, we've learned from the ESPN interview that punk is not going to wrestle the elite. He has said that he's willing to have that match with any of them, have a conference with him, summit with them and sit down and, you know, to just thrash their problems out. He said this publicly and he's been told through intermediaries that they are not willing to do the same. So they don't, they don't want to meet with him and they don't want to wrestle him. And presumably Paige feels the same way. I don't know. Maybe he doesn't. Um, but the problem with this is he's going to keep coming up again and again until it's dealt with. And this is why the boss Tony Khan, if he's any sort of leader, needs to sort this out this week. He just needs to say to him, we're doing this. We're having this conversation. We are, we are burying this problem because it's just going to linger and it's just going to fester. And people are just going to be talking about it instead talking about the things that AEW does well and talking about the shows and all the other things. And he just, I just get the sense that punk's just upset about, you know, there's still heat there and that heat hasn't been doused. And until it is, this is just going to run and run. Well, even what even the thing punk said about, you know, I've tried to reach out to them and whenever I do, I legally get told don't contact this person. And it's like, because even last night, because punk obviously was on dynamite, huge reaction again in Chicago for him to set up that eight man tag with the punk, starts an FTR against the bloke club in the guns. And for that to happen, Omega and the bucks were not in the building. Omega bucks and page were not there. And I mean, you can't really keep that up too long. So has he, because they did a segment backstage, have that been pre-taped? That had been pre-taped, yeah. Okay. But I mean, you know, the, I mean, for example, they are all going to be in the building on Sunday. Yes. Because they're all, you know, the young bucks and page are in the 10 man tag with the Ishi and Kingston against Blackpool Combat Club. And Omega's going to match with Ospreay, punk's going to match with Kajima. So everybody's going to be there. So yeah, if I, I'm with you, I think as uncomfortable as it would be, I think you've got to try and get even just get page and punk in a room. Don't you, I'm not, you don't need to get everybody in the room at the same time, but start men and some fences. Start just going, yeah. If you guys can't work together, I'm not going to force you, but I am going to force a handshake and an agreement to the cordial to not take any shots at each other, unless we agree we're doing a program. You know, and if you want, if you want to, if you want to do a short and a promo, a bit of the other, come to me. It has to be approved by me. Yes. And once that happens, each time this will only be brought up a few more times, because there's no juicy gossip to spread, you know, it'll be like, well, yeah, hang on, punk, punk, if he's asked about it, you can say, yeah, page and I spoke two weeks ago with shook hands, we buried it. You know, we've agreed to move on and not to discuss it anymore. And that's my answer. And we asked about that maybe a few more times, and then no one will ask him about it again, because there's no juice in the story. You know, like you said, we'll keep coming up and coming up and coming up and coming up and coming up. We'll do. Absolutely, we'll do. And this is, to me, I just don't know why this is not happening. To me, I would not actually have that conference or sit down or meeting on a sure day. I would have it the next day, like I'd have it the day after forbidden or because you're going to be on edge. There's a lot of pressure on to perform. Your mind's going to be on your match and your performance. How that conversation the next morning, you know, all the next afternoon, yet together somewhere where there isn't the pressure of performing that night and just sit down and sort it out. No car, no time, no problem. With TipTap, you'll quickly and easily find help with deliveries, moves and recycling at a time and price that suits you. 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You know, match for him that's not really going to be, you know, the expectations aren't going to be super high. Is that a smart way to do it, do you think? I mean, I don't know really. I would have saved these for singles match for something that mattered. I don't think this tournament does. Just feels like, wow, we need him on the show. It's like, well, no, you don't really do yet. You could be good just in a promo or he had in a six-man or an eight-man. I mean, obviously they're doing the eight-man on collision. Could have done that eight-man at the paper view. And have to do it on the show. And it's just, we said when he was coming back, he needs to be used sparingly. And he wrestled Saturday, okay, didn't wrestle last night, but he's going to wrestle this Saturday and he's going to wrestle Sunday. So he's already on quite a heavy schedule which is the reverse of what we recommended. And Kojima, I mean, he was great in his day, like 15, like 10 years ago, 15 years ago. He's not anymore. He's sort of a middle-level player. It just seems like a bit of a waste to me. And it seems after that, he's then punks going to clash with Simoa Joe, presumably in the semi-finals. And I imagine that you'll then win the whole thing. I can't imagine they're going to beat him. I can't imagine the punks not going to win this thing. I mean, if he's in it, what I would do is I would have Tony said, you know, whoever wins, the Owen Hart tournament gets a shot of the title, gets a shot of the world title. And then you've got punks, a story that he's got going on anyway with the bag that you can kind of add that in and go, well, I've got the old belt, I've got the title shot, MJF, I'm coming for you. And then you can build that in. So that's what I would do if he's going to be in it. Yeah, I mean, the best thing I can say about this tournament is that Roderick Strong's involved, probably lose to Simoa Joe, but remember Roderick Strong, he came in, wow, great performer, and he've done almost nothing with him. Yeah, he's, he's been, yeah, because I mean, Adam Cole's going to move on to the MJF thing. Yeah, I guess the problem is MJF's not really got, you know, if MJF had like a second, he was worth, then Cole could have the second. But if MJF's not got one, then Cole would see Rebecca Hewisch to always have strong with him, so then Strong's kind of the odd man out, so then he ends up at the picture. Yeah, absolutely, record fashion really. I mean, yeah, I feel sorry for Roderick Strong, I mean, he came in, I mean, he's still so great, I mean, he's probably better than he's ever been, I think he could do so much with him, and sadly, they've done almost nothing with him. Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't envision he's going to do super well in this tournament. Anyway, let's move on from there, and there was something else I was going to bring up to, so Cindy Lotter was a, was a get, was on the bump, the WWE show, kind of, she was on a red carpet, and WWE bump were there, and they basically asked if she'd be open to work with WWE again, and she said, I don't know, I always had the look you never know. I mean, surely now, Finn, for WrestleMania 40 next year, it is time to get Cindy Lotter in the hall of fame. Yeah, I mean, I don't know why she isn't in there, I mean, there's gotta be something that we don't know. There's gotta be a reason, I mean, they've, I mean, she said, I don't recall her ever saying anything bad about the company. No, she was on an F sort of Raw in the lead up to Raw 1000 in 2012, which came out with Wendy Richter. Yes, so she was, she made an appearance, but yeah, we've just not seen her, we've not seen her do anything else, so maybe she's asking for too much money. Well, do you know what, for WrestleMania 40, just give it to her, you know, because it is, as I glared it, you get a lot of people say of what a glaring or merchandise that she's not in there. So it is, I agree, yeah, I agree, I remember I wrote about this in Q&A in the magazine some time back, unless you could have even been the year before. And yeah, I mean, I don't really know why she's not in there, it could be financial, it could well be that. That's the only plausible explanation that she's asking for, you know, an exorbitant amount of money, like six figures or something absurd. And WWE is saying we can't match that price because it sets a dangerous precedent and we'll have to pay other people that amount of money. That is the only, but there again, you know, if she was, if her asking price was so high, you know, they wouldn't have booked her for that appearance 11 years ago. Yeah. And then Shamist is someone who's in the news. He was, he was interviewed by the, by Metro in the UK and he had some things to say about feeling that WWE should have done more or should be doing more to, to give a push to the brawling brutes. He said, I just don't think they've really capitalized on the group. I don't think they've really let us show what we can do. This stop start stuff is really hard from you're trying to highlight young talent. It's frustrating. So I don't know, maybe we'll get an opportunity to show what we can really do as a group because a lot of those other groups who are out there now have definitely got an opportunity that we haven't had to do some storyline stuff, some character stuff. That's kind of been a shame to be honest considering the talent that's in there. Is that a fair point from Shamist to bring that up with the brawling brutes, do you think? Yeah, I think so and I just hope he hasn't buried butch with these comments because it would butch be in English. You'd think that he will have some star sequences in the money in the bank ladder match. Are we on Saturday? I just hope that by association Pete Dunn butch he's not clobbered for those comments. I mean I do understand where Shamist is coming from, rewind to September, clash at the castle, had one of the matches of the year against Gunter. I mean I thought he would be the one possibly to end Gunter's reign. Obviously that's not going to happen until after Gunter has broken the honky tongue man's record. I mean he's over a year in now so it's not that much longer than a couple more months before he becomes the longest running into constant little champion ever. But yeah I think that's a fair point from Shamist. I mean what I'd like to see, what I want to see is a big show in Ireland and I think that would go down tremendously. We've got Shamist, we've got Becky Lynch, we've got Finn Baller, I mean we've got J.D. Madonna obviously he's not a big deal but he's from that country and I just think that show would do so well. I mean I can't remember the last time the Ran and Major show in Ireland, in fact have they ever? Well they were supposed, I mean it's not, I don't know if it's major but they were supposed to do that NXT takeover show in Dublin with Bauer and Walter at the time. Walter, that is correct but I mean the pandemic got paid to that. So I mean I'd like to see them run a big show in Ireland and Shamist is obviously a big part of that and I think that would be a huge WWE presence in that country, huge for Lynch, Baller and Shamist and you know anyone else who was on the show. But yeah he's got a fair point about the Brawl in Boots. I think part of the problem is that Ridge Holland is not that good, he's got better but he still, he hasn't really progressed in a way where you feel like he could be a big star in the future. He's very much the weak link of the team and I think he probably feel like he may have gone as far as he can. I guess the problem though is that I guess the problem for him though is to Shamist is probably been doing character stuff, if you do some character stuff you can get over that way if he's if he's any good if he's given the chance and then that can kind of make up for some of the shortcomings that he's got but yeah it's a kind of catch 22 I guess if he's ready for that so they don't want to put him in the position but then he also doesn't get put in the position then you know I don't know how you how you take them to the next level I think that I think that a really good faction though and yeah I would like to see stuff done with him so yeah but I mean to me it's Ridge you needs to step up and if Ridge steps up really shows improvement and shows that he belongs you know at the top half of the card and I don't think he does at the moment then maybe attitudes backstage would change I think if Butch has a really good night and money in the bank and receives an enormous cheer from the Crown and his huge support for him winning the briefcase I think that will go in their favor and I think that could be something that may sway opinion and change hats and minds backstage so I mean I don't think it's all over for the for the Brawling Brutes and it's possible that Shamus will be the one to end Gunter's reign I mean there's a backstory there there's a storyline between them we know that their matches have been really good we know that a rematch could be potentially as good as the flash of the castle match up you know once Gunter's broken honky's record you know that point I think he'll drop the bell and he'll probably move up and maybe Shamus will be the one to take it from him and then the last thing I wanted to ask you about was it could be a silly one but I'm curious to get your thoughts so Jake the snake robber was on his podcast the snake pet recently I heard about this he wants to be a booker he does I know you recently spoke to him so I thought I'll bring this up so he was asked a bit if you know he'd helped book shows in WWE Georgia and asked if performing a role in AEW was something you'd want he said absolutely I would love the opportunity just give me 15 minutes of show let me put something together I know that I can help I'm begging for that job and we know Brian Danielson is involved in creating AEW we know that that's Harvard has now started to get a bit involved do you think at this point in the game should should Jake Roberts get a chance to be involved or is he just took his own horn um I mean it wasn't weird that when we when I did that interview with him back in was it late February I think it was yes as a late February early March was he hadn't been on TV for ages and then he was on TV just before I spoke to him and I don't think he's been on rampage or dynamite since if he has maybe once yeah I mean I've I've not seen much of rampage but he's definitely not been on dynamite that's all yeah I thought it was it was excellent timing for the interview though oh here's Jake remember him it's like oh that was a really good first question are you just been on TV and we've seen yeah you're right wait I mean even if he has a pin on rampage it's very very few times and he's done he seems to be doing so little there and he's obviously hungry wants to do it he's got the experience as you say he used to be he was briefly the booker in Georgia championship wrestling he worked for wwf on the creative team in 96 when he returned I mean what have they got it got to lose just give him a shot for a week you know he might be able to do something exciting um you know there's so much TV time right now in AEW that I think there's still a lot to go around and rampage is like the sea show now it's the number three broadcast each week and like what have they got to lose I mean some weeks it's just matches the are okay and sometimes the matches are actually quite good but there's it's it's sort of bereft of you know creative it's like creatively like barren some weeks rampage so why not let Jack have a go so right Jack right these are the people we want you to book you just do one ever you want with them you know this is your rampage is yours this week and they can prove it of course before it goes out just let him have a go I mean this is a very tenuous comparison to make but I mean I sometimes I watch the the view you know that American chat show with the Goldberg and all that and they they would always have like a conservative voice on the panel so they'd all be liberals to be conservative in the panel anyway so about a year and a half ago Megan McCain left and they were looking for somebody else and what they decided to do for a long time was basically have people come in and do a week and do a week and do a week so they just have all these different kind of rotating people coming in and they just kind of be able to see and if somebody does well they get another week and they actually do well they get another week and then eventually they found someone and they liked them with rampage it might not be the worst idea to kind of go right okay Jake you can book a week here's here's a week here's the people book it if you do well you might give you another week then try somebody else and then you know get a few people in rotation and then it might be that you know Jake Jake might have good ideas but it might not be suited to rampage and then you might want to put him over on collision where it's old school type minds and stuff and he might be more sitter over there but you know if you start trying with people you can actually see what they've got to offer rather than just you know because you can always say oh I could do great at that job but until you actually see you know the the results of someone's work you can't really say so I think they should yeah use rampages and experiment till as you have said um because what's the other option you know because most people everybody who I knew I know apart from you because obviously you need to cover for the magazine stuff but nobody really watches rampage and they especially in their collisions and I'm not going to watch it so yeah there's no there's no loss in giving it a go so that's it you've got to get people a reason to watch it's that simple exactly exactly well listen that is all ten we've got for today we will be back next Tuesday with what's going down we'll talk about it for a bed and door we'll talk about run smackdown well we'll talk about smackdown for a bed and door we'll try to get to raw and and yeah we'll look forward to speaking to you then the magazine is out next Thursday 29th of June and say that it was magazine.com is where you can pick it up and yeah then we hope that people will gather together as a try yeah next Thursday it's out with Seth Rollins on the cover so um you know you know the Scott you know we're doing this long enough now you know what to do and um yeah it's a really nice cover for the next 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