The Power Slam Podcast - RAW, Rey Mysterio, Omega-Ospreay III & More

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Ja, und das ist so, you know, early nights examples today I'm going to be sort of going over the early night interviews as a week, I think everyone right okay, watch his answers because a lot of times if you've done interviews, if you actually watch a person being interviewed by other people and you look at how they answer questions, you can kind of see where you could take it that it wasn't taken by other people, you know, because that's kind of what we did over Dominic Mysterio when I was in him, I was watching all the stuff and I knew he was going to want to try and be in character, he was going to try that, so I had to try and disable that at all costs, which is why you know, you're asking him stuff, it's childhood, it's very hard to then like do your in character stuff but you're dad when you're training, so you know, you just love them in it, I mean, look I'm talking to you, you know, you know, you know this better than you, you're the master of sucking them in and getting them to blow. Well, not really, because it's a different environment and I've never, I don't think I've ever done an interview in this environment before, they always do longer interviews, I want some short ones but never like three or four minutes and I don't think I've ever done one of those sort of interviews, remember it serves me correctly, so I guess I stand the challenges you face, it's more difficult than people think, I'm sure a lot of people think, wow, why is he just asking him that puppy question, it's like, well that's the environment and that's sort of what you have to do in order to be invited back, isn't it? Yeah, exactly, and then you've also got to kind of look at the idea of, if you just say, you know, we're doing an interview that, you know, that same person is going to be interviewed by 20 different people that day, so you have to kind of go right, what can I do that will hopefully make mine be one of the better ones of the day, so what I try to do is, I'm saying this now and I'll end up not doing it, but I've seen other people who have like four minutes for somebody, and the first question is absolute garbage, it's just nothing, and you don't have time for that, you have to go straight in with, you know, like, you know, I can't remember, I think I was talking today, maybe in pre-sliced at Summer's Fund, and one of the first questions I have is about working with Edge, because I thought maybe you can get something good at him, working with Edge, you know, in Judgment Day, then then breaking up, and I thought if you start with that, you might get something, and if you don't, you're straight into the next thing, you can't, you know, like you said, if you had a 30 minute interview, you could start with a fluffer, a complete fluff question to just get them comfortable, but with four minutes, there's just no time to do that, it's just a waste of, you know, a minute, you have a quarter of your time, so. Absolutely, then you start panicking, you're like, oh, no, the time's ticking away, oh, I'm going to say next, and my plan is now torpedoed, because the first question went completely to Port, when of course, so yeah, you can say it all night, you say it all night, you say, all night, we want you to win, the public wants you to win, I know that you want to win, the question is, are you going to win, and also do you like that, you know, because, and then that covers a lot of bases, where he's got the support, the public behind him, and everybody wants this, you know, but is it going to happen, and you just sort of judges reaction to that, you know, is he, is he going to be this sort of flicker in his eyes, his flicker of defeat, he's going to detect it, his eyes, does he already know that he's not winning, and obviously like, you know, beaming with your confidence, and you know, because we know there's been certain wrestlers over the years, but when they're walking to the ring, especially when they were champions, Tony Stark, yeah, yeah, and it's just written all over the face in their body language, yeah, he's losing, yeah, she's losing, yeah, yeah, so the real pros don't telegraph it, do they? I mean, yeah, it's fun, because the only thing is the one, not the one, I mean, he's the main one, he's the main one tomorrow that I'm looking forward to, because in all the interviews I've seen him do this week, and last weekend recently, he's not someone who, I'll give you an example, AJ Styles is someone that when he's been WWE, he's quite a hard interview to do, because he's just, doesn't really give you anything, WWE, and he kind of, I think there's maybe once or twice he's been quite open, but like, apart from that, he's very just kind of, you know, doing the round, so his early night, I think he gets that, you know, there's a, I swear on a fan support form, so he's trying to make sure that he doesn't interview, he's giving a lot of stuff to the interview, so then people like him even more, so, Absolutely, I mean, look at Paul Grayson Waller, I mean, he got nothing out of AJ on WWE TV, No, he did not, we should, we should mention actually, because Grayson has, broke his leg, oh no, um, let me just get this, Andrew, because he has, he has, but he has injured, yeah, he's broken his leg, he was, has said, he did a video on his Twitter, but yeah, he's, so he, yeah, he said, I keep seeing everyone saying online, am I just a talk show host now, if I was, I'd be the greatest talk show host in yesterday, but as good as I am, the effect, when we're going back in the ring, the bad news is, um, what I've learnt in the last eight weeks, all the pain on the stuff in rehab, uh, trying to be in the best shape of his life, but yeah, so he, so I think, I don't think he broke his leg like, no, but I think he broke it a little while ago, and that's been why we've been seeing him in this role. I've got to say, you know, they've done a really good job actually of, of concealing that, and he's always in the ring, isn't he, when we, when the cameras appear on this, well, in fact, we never see him move, so that explains it, but he did a great job. If they've been that one. Yeah, so apparently he broke his leg and his last match with Carmelo Hayes. That's when he did it. All right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. I remember something did seem a bit off. So when was that match, that match would have been so very good. 25th April, this one that was, so we're talking two, two months ago. Yeah, so yeah, I mean, at least he's on TV, at least they're doing somewhat, I mean, well, I say at least he's on TV, he's getting over a shadow, but he's, that he's got as a guest, but you know, at least he's around. So, let's, let's dive into some of the news. It was sort of raw from this past week. It was a go-home show for money in the bank. How did they do overall, do you think of kind of getting people excited about? I just thought, I thought they're a great job for the 7th Fenn Baller match. That's like the Fenn Baller video package was tremendous. On sort of the history between them. Yeah, yeah. And then obviously we have the Rawlins promo that turned into, you know, bowed attacking and having the Rawls. I think they've done a really good job of making a match that I think at the beginning, people weren't that fussed about to making it quite an interesting program. What do you think? Yeah, I think so as well. I like the fact that they brought Camelo Hazing as well. And that was, you know, joined up booking with Rawlins was obviously an NXT last week. And then there was the post-match attack after Rawlins had beaten Braun Breaker, Fenn Baller attacked Rawlins and then Camelo Hazing, rescue Rawlins from the post-match attack. So it was good, but Hayes was there on Raw and he prevented Fenn Baller from using a chair on Rawlins. The only thing I didn't like about that was it led to a Camelo Hazing versus Fenn Baller match. And I was expecting an appearance from Baron Corbin and some type of distraction before Baller won. Obviously Baller had to be Hayes because Baller's challenging Rawlins at money in the bank this weekend. So it was the right outcome. But I felt like they should have protected Hayes more on the finish. But as far as, yeah, the sit down drawmoring which Baller was really determined, really serious, all business, there was no laughing and joking. He's hell bent on taking and he said that Rawlins took everything from him like seven years ago and Baller said now he was going to take it all back from Rawlins. And I thought it was very well produced and Baller just came across as a world title contender. You know, there's times when they haven't portrayed him as that. And we've always known that he could be that and actually he's that if they just let him go. But yeah, he seemed like a guy you could. Because I mean, I think most people think that Rawlins is going to retain kind of, you know, swimming upstream here because Rawlins obviously only just won the belts and now champions, brand new title. So it does seem unthinkable that he could lose the belt so soon after he won it. But I think after that interview from Baller, I think more people are thinking, well, maybe this could be Baller's night. Yeah, I mean, I didn't think going in that I would even, that even part of me would think this could be Baller's night. I mean, I still think Rawlins is going to retain it. But the fact that we're questioning it in any way shows the doing the job and they're making us, you know, have a bit of doubt, which is what you want. I mean, if you don't doubt in wrestling matches, what's the point? You know, then you're just... I mean, I'd love to see Baller win because I mean, he really should have eaten edge for WrestleMania, shouldn't he? Oh, 100%. It makes less sense as time goes on. Yeah, I just do not understand that results at all. And I think it would be, you know, a really sweet reward for Baller to end Rawlins, his reign and Rawlins could regain it. Some of Islam. And I think that would be a... I think that actually would be a very interesting way to work this feud because the title change would be very unexpected. And I think that would be huge for Baller. And I think there would be a massive reaction. I think possibly Baller will be cheered. And this Saturday, I'll be interested to see because obviously Rawlins is now very popular. So it can be a very long time to become very popular, but he is now popular. And I'm curious to see, you know, how the crowd will split and what the... how much support Baller will receive in London. But I think he does have a lot of support over here. So it seems a lot of really interesting matches at Money in the Bank this Saturday. And that's one that, as a result of this thing that we're talking about now, is I'm a hell of a lot more interested in because I'm not convinced now that Rawlins is going to return. And that's the art of promoting, isn't it? It's to come in the element of doubt over who's going to win. We did have a segment with all the women who are going to be in the... the women's money in the bank match. And they were kind of, you know, promos back and forth. And at the end of a trash can of saying, you know, winnings what I do. And, you know, I'm going to win on Saturday. And then they had a big fight, big brawl, and then Becky Lynch climbs the ladder, takes the briefcase off of the hook, and kisses it as her music plays. I mean, tell me she's not winning. If I tell me she's without telling me she's not winning. Yeah, I mean, this was the women's summer for the Money in the Bank, Lardematch. And, yeah, they were all there. I mean, Eels not happy with Bailey. We know they're heading for Splitzville, which is obviously the right outcome for you up in particular. Curious to see what Bailey does after they split, obviously they're going to have a match, but Eels really has to win that, so Bailey could be in trouble, you know, post-damaged control. But yeah, I thought this was good. I mean, you know, Lynch just... Lynch, he was Lynch, you started it. It was big scrap there. And I think that's what he needed. He didn't know the state's welcome. And, you know, there were lots of people really enjoying seeing Becky Lynch climb the ladder and grab the briefcase. It's not going to happen on Saturday. No, that was for sure after that. And also, I think afterwards backstage, Becky Lynch ran into Rhea Ripley. And Lynch told Rhea that, you know, the belt needed her, you know, the belt that Rhea's holding, needed Lynch. So that was a nice little, you know, dropping a nice hint there that Lynch and Rhea Ripley could be on the cards later in the year. Yeah, I mean, it definitely seems like a summer slam or a WrestleMania match. It's happened, Becky and Rhea, for sure. We did, like you mentioned Carmelo Hayes, he was obviously part of this episode, having a match with Finn Balor, which obviously Finn won in the end. I mean, I know sometimes people are kind of torn in the idea of bringing someone who's hot for NXT off and having them lose. But some people think it's a good exposure. How did you think they handled this in terms of Carmelo getting a showcase, but also, ultimately, he couldn't win? Well, as I said, I feel like Corbin should have done the should have been the distraction by Corbin before Hayes was beaten. I think on the main roster, Hayes needs to tone down the own colleague Jim Nastix, but he does a lot of aerials, some of which have a tendency to be not that realistic. And I know that's his act, and I'm a fan of Hayes, I think he's really good. But I think he's going to have to turn that down slightly on the main roster, especially if he wants to go any higher than sort of mid-card, because that's, you know, I think Ricochet does it better than him. So I think he's going to have to find a slightly different, you know, more sort of robust style with more sort of high-impact sort of ground-based moves, rather than lots of, you know, spying through the air, where people just have to stand there and wait for him to land on them or whatever. But yeah, I'm a fan of Hayes. I think he's somebody who in time will get over, because he can talk, and he believes in himself. I mean, it's a different environment, of course, and there's more competition there, and he's had, you know, a really smooth ride in NXT. So it's going to be a test for him when he gets on the main roster, but I think he's going to be all right. You know, it seems that they like him. It seems they believe in him, and, you know, it's Kenny. If a wrestler believes that the company believes in him or her, then that's half the battle. They're then believing themselves, because they know they've got the company behind them. Yeah, for sure. And then elsewhere on roll, we did have some more build to sort of codey and dom. We had codey. Codey didn't have peace in the main event. I made the dom codey poem early on the show. Did you like Hobie? Did you like the promo between them early on the show? Yeah, really funny and rear and dominate were out. And, you know, Dominic kept saying welcome to Rod. He fans were just booting. He basically booted him into submission. So rear had to take over, and then she was booted and then codey joined them. The codey called Dominic Mysterio scared a little boy. Codey offered Dominic a free shot. And Dominic then approached him. Of course didn't take it. And codey wanted to know if dom was just mommy's little boy. So yeah, we know he's going to win this. I think it's going to be a good mid card match for both. I think codey will give Dominic quite a lot of offends, rear will be involved. And it's, yeah, there's no, it would be completely crazy for Dominic Mysterio to defeat codey. Robes, we know that codey is going to have a rematch we brought. Let's now at Somerslam. But as long as Dominic gets some offends, we know he's going to get a lot of heat. Then it'll be job done, you know, entertainment provided. Everybody, everybody's story moves along in some way. Yeah, I agree. And I mean, it's a little sort of interlude, isn't it? For codey, it's just to give him something to do this feud. Let's be honest. In the summer season, at the 8th of July, the chance of 3 times 777,77 euros. And 100 times 777 euros, additionally, in every other spot and at Lotte Bayern. Lotte Bayern, take your luck in your hand. Play your name at 18. Glücksspiel kann süchtig machen. Hilfe unter BZG-RDE. Lotte Bayern wünscht viel Spaß beim folgenden Podcast. Yeah, and that's kind of the main stuff from raw bone to money in the bank. I mean, I will say, I think in terms of the build they've had, I mean, I've even just looked at it. If you've seen this on Twitter and stuff, but you've got Becky Lynch and Seth Rollins on Talksport, like on their actual radio channel, you've got Rhea Ripley on BBC Women's Outer or something this morning. So that people are getting around. So they're doing what, hopefully, you know, AEW are going to do in August. That's what, you know, they should be setting up right now. It's going to be like, let's get a Jedi. And who had jokes about getting a Jedi code in Lotte's women, which I would still love, by the way. I would still love to see that. Or, you know, staying on Lorraine. Like just, you know, but you want to get the big names who people know. I mean, WWE are lucky that, you know, Rhea Ripley has been doing press over here for like four years or something. So, you know, by now, she's not like a household name, but you know, she's a name that if you're like a passing wrestler and fan who has watched WWE, you know who she is. So yeah, I think, I hope, hopefully, this kind of stuff is what AEW are going to do for all I'm going to do over. And it's August, three August. I mean, I'd like Roman Reigns to do something as well. I mean, hopefully I don't, he probably won't be coming in until like, tomorrow morning or something. So maybe you're out of time. And you end up on that BBC breakfast or something. You know, whatever the big gig as they can get, the big, the biggest one. Yeah, he should be on that, representing the company. And if not Friday, then Saturday, you know, getting on Saturday morning, we know he's going to be there Friday. So, I mean, this is a guy who can do some big appearances Saturday. And this is the person that people want to talk to because they can talk about movies. We know he's really comfortable doing mainstream media interviews. You know, he's the main man and he's totally unflappable. And I just think it'd be great to see him on there. Actually, we poll Hayman as well. I think that would be fantastic. And maybe we solo and give solo a bit of a rub. Yeah, when you go back to me, do you go back to me? Do you get them on live in Kekken or whatever? Yeah, like you get them on there, what do we do? So yeah, just one more thing Kenny about a role. And Natalia did a backstage interview. And she said that she was still standing. I'm thinking maybe Elton John, the company, another wrestling crossover here. Well, look, he's duet. He's duet. If it's Duolipa and Britney Spears, maybe Natalia is the next course, now he's retired. Exactly, I mean, you know, Glastinbury was big. But I mean, you know, that one night come back to play. Natalia to the ring. That could be the pinnacle of his career. I mean, judging by the way he was walking out to Glastinbury, I don't think he'll be doing much more walking to be honest, but we shall see. I did want to bring up Jim Cornett, quite quickly, Finn, because he obviously is very rarely complimentary, but modern wrestling. But he was very complimentary, but someone in WWE called him a genius. And he was talking about Rey Mysterio. So he said, Rey is a genius in almost exclusively now. He'll open up strong on him, so he can fight from underneath. Then he'll give them a move and a tease of another move that they'll shut him down. So he gives the fans a little bit at a time, but he's always fighting from underneath. Then finally, when he makes his big comeback, it's brilliant, because he's smaller, he's older, he's a legend. But he's got the trademark moves, and he knows how to put it together. It's brilliant. Would you echo Jim Mysterio? Is he on the money a bit, Rey? And kind of that different spin that he puts on it? Yeah, I think he absolutely is. I mean, it's just a shame that, you know, so fresh in mind is the, you know, debacle. Well, wasn't that bad, but the match did fall apart with LA night last week. But I mean, you know, typically, Rey is so good. I mean, when you think back to the end of his run, 2013-2014, I mean, it was things did look grim there, where he was getting booed as a baby face. I needed to go away. He needed to go away and then come back, and he did. Got himself in shape again. And he's had this amazing career, an A-Sense, really, over the last few years. I mean, the stuff he's done with his son has been amazing. I think it's really good. The Dominic has moved on. He's doing other things. I mean, he could have done more of Dominic and Rey, but they can always revisit that. I always felt like the blow-off should have been a mask versus hair match. And maybe that's what will do when Rey is ready to retire. Maybe Rey will mask, and that'll be it. I don't know. But I just feel like there's still another match in that feud. But yeah, Rey is really good. He knows exactly how to work with smaller wrestlers. I'm sorry, with larger wrestlers, because he's a smaller wrestler. I mean, he had a match. And she had a match on SmackDown last year with Gunter, didn't he? And I remember thinking that was... Gunter was already getting over, but that just felt like one of those matches where people saw Gunter as this major player, because he'd been in there with Rey. And Gunter, of course, is the, you know, is the antithesis of Rey. He's the big guy who knows exactly how to work with a smaller guy. So he knew exactly what to do. And I remember that just being... It was only a TV match, and they could have done more on a premium live event. But I remember just thinking that was just perfect for a TV match. And yeah, Rey is just such a... You can see, he does it all instinctively. And he knows exactly what to do when. And he doesn't have to think about anything. And often times when you watch wrestlers, and you just look at him and you think, oh no. You know, they're standing there, they're trying to work out what to do next. And in fact, we saw that with Ronda Rousey. And Raquel Rodriguez on RAW, they had a match. And there was just all this hesitation from Ronda. Where you can see she's just looking at Raquel and she's like, oh no, what do I do next? And she's waiting for Raquel to give her the signal. But Rey, just, it's all just fluid and it all just happens. And that's the way it should be. Yeah, and even like, the story we need to be dominant, that there's not a lot of people who are good at doing both. They're good at doing the entering stuff. Like the way Rey does it, but also doing one of these long-term storylines that go on for months and months and months. So I looked about that with the patience to shoot. I'm rare, totally humiliated himself again and again and again, which is unusual for a baby face. And a lot of baby faces don't like that. They're like, I don't want to look like a fool. I don't want the heel to get one over on me. But I mean, it was the slow builder. It started in September, ended just before WrestleMania. We've talked about this before, written about it. And it was just a guy who knew how to tell a long-term storyline. And a long-term spites definition, a long-term storyline. It's something that's going to take a long time. So you can't just go to the finishing line on week two. You've got to pace it. And if that means totally humbling yourself for months at a time, to make the payoff at the end even bigger, then do it. And it's like, you know, I think a lot of people could learn so much from Real Mysterio. And then the last thing I wanted to ask you was about Matt Cardona, who obviously is doing pretty well on the independent scene and stuff. But he was talking to Sam Roberts. And he said this, he said about going to, you know, WWE, WWE said, I've not been in communication with anybody. They know my numbers. I would have a phone call with anybody, but I don't think I don't know if I would go back to either big company right now. I feel like Steph DeLander and I are killing it right now. No matter how you define success, I'm the most successful I've been in my career. So he does say that he kind of, you know, it would be cool to see his figure in shops again and wrestling the stadium. But I know we've talked about this before. But do you think for Cardona, because he's going to have to make a decision fairly soon, whether he's going to go back to WWE or he's going to go to UW. Do you think he will work in a bigger company again in the gimmick that he's got now? Or do you think that he would kind of have to just go take the money and accept it if you're in mean event? I mean, well, that would have to be a condition of signing the contract, wouldn't it? That he was going in there, not as, you know, a Zack Ryder or the character that people remember it. Because I mean, he had that run, didn't need an impact. You know, that was okay, but it was not that amazing really. And he's got more creative freedom, more flexibility to do his own thing on the independent circuit and it sounds like it's working for him financially, which, you know, is good. I mean, maybe I'm sure he did very well financially in all these years in WWE and maybe he didn't live it large. Maybe he was very careful with his cash, which, you know, everyone should be if he can, certainly if they're, if they're doing well and wrestling, you know, you never know how long this is going to last. So it's, you know, don't buy that expensive card. Don't buy, you know, don't blow the money on things that are going to massively depreciate. So I think he's been smelt with his cash, the fact that he's not desperate to go back. And in some ways, you sort of would like to seem to do something with Chelsea and maybe as a double act, they could get over. But then you just think of Scala and Carrie and Cross, don't you? And you think, oh, you know, it might end up like that, which is not benefiting anyone, not Cross, not Scala and certainly none of their opponents. And I mean, you're right, yeah, you would think at some point you can say, I'm going to sign this big contract because this could be my last big, big money contract. I want to do this now and this is going to set me up. And then after three years with the big company, I'm going to be able to go and do in this occasionally. I can do the convention circuit again. It's going to be loads of money in that. And that's going to see me right for next three to five years after that, just as a part-time gig. But I mean, I don't think AEW really showed a whole lot of enthusiasm for him. I know he was only there briefly, but I don't think he really would do well there. If you went back to AEW, I just don't see a spot for him. And they've got so many people there who are not really doing that much now. So if I was him, I think I'll probably say I'm going to give WWE another go. I'm going to do something we Chelsea because she had space it. She could use a helping hand right now. Couldn't she, Kenny? I mean, she's going nowhere. And I'm going to do a different character. And if you let me do this, I've got to come in there and have some assurances from them that they're going to let me do something completely different. Not Zack Ryder again, because that's just going to be like a job or is it basically a glorified job after two or three weeks? It's going to be a main event character. Then I'd probably give them a call if I was wanting to go back to the mainstream. Why don't you think? Yeah, I think when he was in AEW, it just didn't fit. He kind of came in and he was called his pal. Yeah, it didn't really fit. I think if he was going back to WWE, it would have been a risk for him because they don't tend to take very well, you go away and make yourself successful if they didn't deem that they wanted you to. But with Drew and he left because they were like, we want you to get your act together. We want you to get more serious and all that and then he did it. But yeah, I think he'd be going back to be at risk for him. But yeah, he's got a way up. Doesn't he's got a way up? Is it worth having the money and doing the travel on their schedule around on his own? Yeah, but I mean, I think a lot of it would depend if they were willing to pay him handsomely, then that would show a commitment to him that yes, we want to use you as more than a main event wrestler. We want to, you know, as he's not main event, as in headline, as in main event, as in we can show hell type thing. Yeah, and she's main event on weekends. It's not on weekends anymore, is it? When is main event broadcasts? Does anyone know? I will try and find out WWE main event broadcasts. I think it drops on the network. Well, when is it? Main event is out on, oh my god. It's actually not on, oh, I'll try and find out where we're going. Okay, well, anyway, we know main event is this place where careers, if you're on main event, usually your career is in trouble. It's just that simple, isn't it? I mean, there's so much product to watch now. How many people have got time to watch a main event as well? So, I mean, yeah, if Matt Cardona were, I mean, the fact, if they weren't going to use him as Matt Cardona, that'd be a huge start. If they were to say, no, we want you to come back as a Zack Rider, because that's who everyone knows you as. I would just say, right, this is not going to work, you know, thanks, but no thanks. So, if they can come to an arrangement on a new character and you know, something different that could get it over, then I think it would be worth the risk. But if not, if it's going to be like, now we want to bring you back as the guide everyone you you has, forget about it. Yeah, I would agree. I mean, yeah, main event, here's on a Thursday. Thursday, so it's not a weekend show anymore. But I mean, I think if he is going to go back, he has to kind of say, it's not a Zack Rider thing, it's maybe in the character of kind of created in the end. Which will be tough, because obviously Matt Cardona is also his name. So, they would need to be a sort of bit of, you know, they would need to sort of give him the invest in him that, you know, we're going to let you use your real name, which is also what you're ringning, but we'll see. And in very last question, very quickly, so there are rumors about Will Osprey and Kenny Omega doing their third rubber match at all in it Wembley. Do you want that to be the Omega match at that show? Well, I think, I think so. I mean, the big winner will be Osprey, who will be playing before massive crowd in his home country. I'm sure he is itching to have that match. You know, I'm sure he is. I'm sure he's just like, yes, sign me up. I'll work for free. You know, I mean, that's, that would be enormous for him. Yeah. I think given the success of the match at Forbidden Door, and I think that's the place to do it. I mean, they've also announced, as well, I'm the Kenny all out one week after all, right? Yeah, all it's going to still going to be in this, that, that Labor Day weekend, I think, yes, there's a Memorial Day, Labor Day, everyone in the one September's. Yeah, some Q is it. I mean, they're putting out a lot of product right now, a W, and they're going to have to be careful not to oversaturate, not to just, you know, wear themselves out, because it makes a lot of product. And that's two big shows on consecutive weekends. And I think that's going to be quite trying for all involved. Yeah, it's going to challenge. But hopefully they do learn that if they do Osprey Omega 3, put on last. Don't put it on last. I think that should, I mean, I think, are they going to do, I mean, they're going to do like, I mean, like, obviously on rampage, sorry, dynamite this way, it felt to me like that was the end of the Jericho versus Sting feud. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't feel like Sting has got a one-on-one match for Jericho in them. Yeah. So I mean, maybe you do a multi-man thing to retire Sting. Yeah. But I mean, I think there was some people think, well, maybe it's going to be Sting versus Jericho at all in London. But to me, that felt like, you know, last night on dynamite in the tornado match. That was it. That was the end of their feud. It doesn't feel like there's any more mileage left in it. So I'm not quite sure what's going to do there. But yeah, Osprey versus Omega, I think that would be a worthy headliner of the London show. And yeah, be grateful, grateful for Will Osprey to main event show in front of, I mean, well, it's going to be over 70,000, isn't it, over 70,000 pounds on the night. I mean, that would just be colossal. I mean, it's going to be colossal for Omega as well. I mean, that'd be bigger show of his career as well. Yeah, 100%. We will see how it all goes, but that's all time we've got for just now. The overrun will be up on Friday on Patreon. So tomorrow, if you're listening on Patreon today, if you're listening on the main feed, so we hope you check it out. And so there was magazine.com so you can check out our current issue with Seth Rohns on the cover. And she's now on sale. She's now on sale on sale today, the 29th of June. So it'll be on sale on WH Smith. So if you want to go and pick it up for a sort of free money in the bank, read, go do that. 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