Meet Meredyth Cole, Head of School

The role of a head of school is not just any administrator. They're the driving force behind the success of an independent school community responsible for leading the vision, strategy, and day-to-day operations of the school. Like many things love it however, our head of school is uniquely challenged to attend to and steward the whole child promise. This is Living Love It! Stories from the Riverbank. I'm Jessica Sant, Chief Engagement Officer at the Love It! School. On our first episode of season 3, you'll meet Meredith Cole, Love It!s head of school since 2018, in our first female head since our founding. She'll share her journey to Love It, the pivotal turning points in a 31-year career in independent school education, her vision for Love It!s future, and her thoughts on what makes this place so unique. Meredith will highlight some of Love It!s points of pride, challenges, and opportunities, and also discuss Love It!s place in our broader community. Most importantly, you'll hear Meredith's perspective on where she hopes Love It!s headed as we approach our centennial celebration and also offer some insight on how to foster a strong and healthy family school partnership. I hope you'll discover that some of Meredith's superpowers are her willingness to strategically attempt new practices and to model an innovative and growth mindset for her colleagues and most especially for her students. Her passion for education and centering the student experience is evident in all that she does. If you want to know what Living Love It means, you don't have to live any further than Meredith Cole. This episode has been a long time coming. We have referenced our head of school Meredith Cole many many times on Living Love It! And finally, she is a guest today. Meredith, thank you so much for being here! It is an honor to be here. I'm excited to be part of this exciting endeavor. Very glad that you're here and looking forward to our conversation. Usually on these episodes, we start at the very beginning and we're going to do the same with you. I think that your story, your family's background is really interesting and I know has had an impact on how you have become who you are today professionally and personally. And I think for our listeners who are mostly current parents and also prospective parents, they'd benefit from hearing about it too. Can you share a little bit about your upbringing and how you made your way to education? Sure, I joke that I have gone to school every day of my life since the time I was about four years old. Both of my parents ultimately became educators. My mom actually graduated from college and was a journalist and my dad became what the seminary and became a minister and then became a school chaplains. Fast forward a number of years. They have two children and we are living on a campus of a boarding school in the Mid-Atlantic and it's an environment that I grew up in. My parents were both teachers. My dad was a chaplain kind of think Steve Allen that coaching, teaching, chaplaining in a boarding school, living on campus, having most of our meals as a family in a school dining room with hundreds of teenagers. My father then pursued a school administration and actually became a school head and I had the benefit of attending my first independent school in the seventh grade where my dad was the head of a small junior boarding school in Lake Plastid, New York in an incredibly beautiful setting in the mountains surrounded by opportunities to ski and to hike and to ride horses and do all kinds of things outside. It was a really neat school, small little school. We were there for a few years and that actually was a moment in time where my family really established our home base. My parents purchased a house on Lake Champlain which was near Lake Plastid and that is where we basically spent every summer of my life. It was a moment for me where the out of doors taking risks. I learned how to ride horses. I did camping trips in the winter in the snow when it was cold. I learned how to ski. Wait what is the camping trip in the winter? I can't even imagine what that looks like. It's cold. Yeah. I probably only remember the good stuff. Fires and these are the lean twos and sleeping bags that have the right degree of down in them and things like that. Oh my god. I remember being fun. We ice skated a lot. We were just outside all the time until it was like literally 50 below where you couldn't go outside and the windows were iced over. We left the north country and my father took an interim year out of school in Ohio, a small Quaker boarding school. It's teeny tiny little Quaker boarding school. I had no idea what it meant to be a Quaker. I was in I guess I was in ninth, tenth grade at that point. I thought he had taken us to the end of the earth. I was not a happy 15 year old at all. But I looked back on that year. We were there for a year. It was an interim year for my dad and it really was an opportunity for me to kind of find my spiritual center despite the fact that I'd grown up with a fatherhood gone to seminary who had spent some time as a minister. We hadn't been a particularly kind of religious family and my parents had always looking back on it. They said we wanted to leave your religious identity really up to you and your brother and I'm like well it's hard to form them without a lot of exposure but that's another story. I spent that year of tenth grade every school day for 20 minutes in the morning and 20 minutes in the evening in what they call Quaker collection. You sit in silence and then twice a week on Sundays and on Wednesdays we had 45 minutes of Quaker meeting where we sat for 45 minutes in silence which for a 15 16 year old who had never done anything like that was kind of bizarre. But I will say that by halfway into that year I went from counting ceiling tiles and shoes and feet to really appreciating the silence and the inner reflection and for those who are not familiar with Quakerism the idea is that you sit in silence and it's given that silence that you hear God and so I think older more mature Quakers than I was at the time would share those insights on occasion and speak to what they were hearing but I it is still something that I value enormously now as a more religious person and certainly a deeply spiritual person those moments of quiet and reflection. That's how I start every single morning when I wake up heading downstairs getting my coffee and sitting in silence for a little while. Then we left Ohio, Barnesville, Ohio to be exact. Then my father takes another headship the Foxcroft school which is a girls boarding and day school in Middleburg, Virginia in the middle of beautiful horse country Virginia. I was a new junior in high school with this new head of headmaster at the school who decided that it actually was not okay for kids to smoke at school that it was not okay for some other things that people were any remember but he was changing changing things and making new rules and I just remember you are making my life miserable dad. Yeah that was your dad that was your dad making all those changes. Yeah but again I look back on that experience it is definitely where I became a student where I took myself seriously intellectually where I remember having a whole bunch of teachers who really valued what I had to offer intellectually. I didn't mention that I found out I guess fourth or fifth grade through a lot of educational testing and many many tears and it was all cemented when I took I think in sixth grade my first SSAT test that I have dyslexia and probably found out a little too late that I had a learning difference. School was was always really hard for me I've shared with the kids here that when I was in fourth grade I was a blue bird in my reading group and the blue birds were the lowest reading group. We quickly understood that whole smoking me our approach and that was really hard I just remember that. Anyway I'm in 11th grade and a senior in high school and I am finding my own way now in in terms of succeeding academically and just feeling smarter for the first time because I teachers who believed in me and that meant a lot. And then after I also had opportunities to get involved in school leadership I was the vice elected vice president of my class my senior year and the president of the class got in trouble. I don't remember exactly what she did but lost her position and I became the class president but it pretty early in the year but I that was one of my first kind of worries into leadership. Prior to that though I had always been a very entrepreneurial kid always looking for ways to to make money to try different things. I worked with kids a lot in the summer whether I was working summer camps or I was giving little kids tennis lessons and that kind of thing. I love being with kids and got a lot of joy and satisfaction out of that and then that is sort of I headed off to college went to the University of Virginia had a experience there. It's interesting looking back on it as a as a student who had learning differences. That was a time when very few colleges and universities were actually providing student support in that situation and I can remember going to the department of student support and remember what it was called and it was like literally in the dungeon of the oldest building on campus and but I remember those people being really supportive and I look at that center now that they have at UVA and it's completely different and modernized but I did I made it through UVA and the the best part of that experience was the experiential experience I had my my fourth year there where I did an internship and realized that I was actually going to be okay in the real world. I just had to get through statistics and through some of these things that were so hard. I would say that college allowed me grit and resilience big time but college was parts of it were hard but I knew I wanted to work in school so I applied and was accepted to a fifth year graduate program at UVA in the education school and you start taking the courses your your last year of college and I started taking those education classes and I hated them. They were dry they were so theoretical and I thought maybe I am not cut out to work in a school and to do all of this. I kind of changed gears decided I was not going to go to graduate school. I wanted to get out of school frankly at that point and decided I would pursue an administrative post in an independent school. I had interviewed with a number of different independent schools and I was offered an admissions position at a girls that actually the competitor girls boarding school to the one that I went to in Virginia the Madeira school and I coached I worked in the dorm I did admissions work I ended up teaching and I was at Madeira for 23 years and I did just about every job under the sun there always kind of looking for the next challenge and ways that I could engage and do different things and grow my skill set. I had an incredible mentor in the head of school there Betsy Griffith who I had the just the gift of working with for 20 years and she really inspired me in terms of what I saw was a woman who was she was a leader she was a strong leader she was smart she was a mom she was a wife she was feminine she was a feminist and I was like man you can do all of this stuff and very inspirational to me I think a lot of people God rest his soul my dad think that it was my dad who really inspired me to become a school head and frankly it was really Betsy seeing that model and and for me the power of being able to see a version of my future self and to provide that for kids today is really has a lot to do with why I do what I do. All into your colleagues too I should say well thank yes a lot of talking I think I should just know you're gonna do some more talking you're not done I do hope what you heard is that all of my individual educational experiences were which were very different had a huge impact on who I have become as an educator yes yes well and I wonder if it's a it's made an impact on just who you are as a human being and how you see the world most definitely and I think that has a lot to do with why I feel so strongly in the model of an individual and having been out of higher faculty who are passionate about what they teach and who they teach as opposed to educational theory and a set way to do it that kind of stuff the freedom that he gives them. I think it's what you shared about being diagnosed with dyslexia is a really important message for families to hear so often and even just talking with peers who have children who are now being diagnosed with certain learning differences I think the first response is panic or fear or worry am I going to be able to support my child are they going to be okay and the anxiety of that but you are an example and there's actually lots and lots of examples of people who serve in leadership roles similar to what you do who there's documentation of this there's a disproportionate amount of people of dyslexia who are CEOs and I think that's so fascinating. It is but I'll tell you boy to all those parents out there we I can talk a really good game and I am the mother of two kids with learning differences and I definitely made some poor decisions probably based on some of the wrong things thinking I was doing the right things for my kids when I yeah looking back on it being worried about pulling them out of certain social situations or situations that would have allowed them to pursue passions and loves that they had but having putting them in the right educational setting those were hard decisions and we didn't always make the right decision. You mean choosing where they wanted to be in the moment versus choosing a place that could have supported them better academically? Probably where I wanted them to where I wanted them to fit. Right yeah yep we say this all the time we all say it as parents there's no there's no one way to do this and we there's lots of different points of view on how to parent but at the end of the day it's it's hard work and but I do think your message is an important one Meredith just to say and you've shared this before you've shared in another settings what you wish you could have done differently as a parent but just who you are as a person and what you just acknowledged about your own journey it was not a straight line there were lots of curves and turns and maybe doubling back and trying it again. National disappointments and you know you just it's not a straight line I think we all think that but no heavens no and as I say it all the time if if I've done nothing else in John I as parents just modeling being a just be a good person yeah they're watching yep they are my two-year-old is spinning back everything I say right now and I'm realizing I'm saying things that I'm not even aware that I'm saying it's a little terrifying. That's that you know all that you just shared leads us to an important or interesting question to acknowledge about what you do every day you are part administrator your part CEO your part educator your part visionary for the school help families understand what it is a head of school actually does from day to day. I think about the job in a number of different angles one one of the big pieces is that on my shoulders sit the success of this place at any given day I may be on vacation but I am carrying the success of this place with me at all times we are one part this educational endeavor which is it's a combination of deliver of curriculum we're of kind of an extension of family we are church we're health care mental health care provider we we provide all of these pieces related to the maturation process of a healthy human being and it's the most precious commodity that we as parents have in our lives and we're sit there's people are entrusting us to support their children in this process and in order to do that we are a we're business operation so we don't receive any funding from the state we don't have any federal funding it is all comes out of tuition and privately funded dollars we have about a set almost a 70 million dollar operating budget on an annual basis we carry a currently have an endowment that at this kind of market low is sitting about a hundred and thirty million dollars we produce about a thousand w-2s annually a huge chunk of that almost half of it is a whole collection of part-time employees it's a question of part time with about 500 full-time employees and we of course have to follow all the laws associated with being a business operating in the United States in the state of Georgia and that just has gotten more and more challenging really since I entered the profession in 1989 lots of accountability lots of transparency on that front and then and I guess that the the other piece of my my boss is a board we have a board of 31 sort I said call that they're non-paid professionals we our board operates very much like a corporate board they just don't get the benefit of the salary that corporate board members get they work very hard so they I am their only employee and then everybody else it love it reports up ultimately through me but I have this incredible leadership team who all have a piece of this operation and then I guess that the last chunk of that work really is this this visionary piece sort of it's not my vision it's Eva Lubitz vision it's our mission and it's our our vision to be the school of choice for a whole child education in the city of Atlanta and how do it's my responsibility to make sure as the world is evolving around us and changing that we continue on that track and that we continue to make to prepare kids to be successful in their futures which is an ever evolving education frankly I mean we can't we can't provide the same education we did in 1985 it's not a static initiative so it's keeping that ball rolling too it's kind of a three-legged stool I guess well given what you just shared I had this question queued up for later but I think it's worth asking right now you've been spending a lot of time talking with the leadership team about the future and what education might look like what what our world might look like and how does a love it graduate been into that constellation of the unknown what do you see given all the conversations we've been having what do you see as really those critical skills that kids will need to have to be prepared for that uncertainty I think a lot about this and one thing we know for sure is that artificial intelligence is it's coming well it's here frankly and it's not going away and it is replacing a lot of the jobs that are related to skills that we historically have taught kids in school computational skills writing communicating number of different things that are putting different kinds of problem solving what it does not solve for is emotional intelligence intuition empathy and compassion and nuanced thinking and different perspectives and so I so I know that doubling down on those skills is going to be important I think we say it all the time but resilience and grit there are so many complex issues that need to be solved and it's going to take 4,000 tries to kind of get at the right solution it's not a one and done how do we make sure that it's the love it graduate who has the stamina who has the fortitude who has the grit the resilience the appreciation of a diversity of perspectives to try different angles to bring more minds to the table I want those to be our people out there who are in all walks of life operating with that skill set well I mean we're having these these conversations right now with colleges I met with a university president earlier this week and asked her what what is the number one skill that you hear your faculty say and they wish they saw more of in the classroom no surprise grit resilience how do we then translate the building of that skill into our classrooms and beginning to think about some of that you know it's fascinating we as schools we we are responsible for curriculum we're responsible for delivering through content an outcome of skills and in many ways and that does have to evolve over time but who is it to kind of guide us and say these are the skills they need it's the classroom teacher does not have a whole lot of free hours in the day to be figuring that out but I think it really is it's it's people like myself it's making sure that we are providing our faculty with the resources of realities that are happening out there we're out ahead explaining two more families yep what we're teaching in our classroom and why it's valuable to the future of their students right and why it looks different than what what I learned and what they learned what they learned what we all learned what we all learned yeah I mean at some point memorizing some of the stuff that kids have been memorizing is just a waste of time and we've got to figure out when is the right time to let go of some of that and we never want to get rid of it's through some of that memorization of stuff that that you're building other muscles talk more about that parent school or family school relationship partnership where do you see opportunities for love it to do more in terms of quilting that relationship and where do you see opportunities for families to engage more it excites me so much to think about this this aspirational vision of a school that has presented itself so transparently and effectively to families that they know exactly kind of what to expect that there can be a values there can be an expectations much and if we could do that so well that we are working that handing glove approach to growing these kids together and that what families are doing at home is mutually supportive of what we're doing at school and what is happening at their friends house who also goes to love it is there's this sense of parents can can have this feeling of safe the sense of safety that that they have a sense that if we value this this other family probably values the same thing and and then it allows us to give kids this incredible amount of independence and again to grow those skills and we can we as the adults in their lives can back off maybe just a little bit and feels though we have we can control a little less of their lives and and be a little less worried I think we're all really worried about it these kids they are it's not an easy time to be growing up so I I'm really excited about and we will continue every day at love it too I mean we Jessica your position I mean we're thinking about it organizationally in terms of the work people are doing it love it we're thinking about where we put our resources my commitment to transparency in this partnership and then to really understand kind of the boundaries where what is schools to decide and what is a parents to decide and we do have professional educators here and they're professional educators but they're not the parent of Sally Smith and that's Sally Smith parents are expert in Sally Smith you know we just have to be I think be really aware of that and then I think the other piece of that is making sure that as we hire faculty and administrators and staff that and and we've been we've been doing this I think really well lately we are really hiring people who have an appreciation for that same value set so that we're all working in this same path I think the baseline of what you just described is a community that trusts one another you know that family school teachers parents kids we trust if we can't have a degree of trust I mean we've lived through the past couple years it is so disruptive and everyone's life and it feels lousy and it really does it tests the model the tension the integrity of our model let's play out just an example just for the sake of a conversation Sally Ann's parents who know Sally Ann the best have a concern about something that's occurred in a classroom where should Sally Ann's parents direct that concern I would love it to start at the most local level possible where Sally Ann has talked to her teacher it it can Sally Ann solve this for herself that depends on what grades Sally Ann ends in and of course if Sally Ann is a kindergartner and she's reported something to her parents that's that's concerned them I that parent does need to call a teacher and and they need to do it through the range of my my five-year-old has just shared this with me and it's a five-year-old's interpretation of something but I think trying to solve it in the most local level possible makes a lot of sense and if it's if the solution does not set right with either party at that local level taking it to the next level which would be a division head perhaps and then on from there but I think to jump straight to to me or to a board member there they really don't know what's that's not their job and I am just going to have to go all the way back to find out what's happening at that at that other level but again it goes to that trusting and I think we're living in this moment of time where everybody's a little bit afraid and and there's this sense and I'm not even sure where it's come from necessarily that am I putting my child at risk by directly confronting a teacher about something and I think kids feel that way sometimes that strange power play and then the teachers are feeling it yeah also but I mean Jessica you've talked a lot about and I think it's it really is going to be part of how we continue to strengthen this partnership is just to get to know one another better and to begin to have conversations about kids in general with parents and teachers in the same room together and making time for that because it wings somebody it heightens your level of trust and we just haven't had a whole lot of time for that over the past few years and you I think of another byproduct of that is you realize we're all on the same team and that we're not at odds with one another that we really are you know we're all working towards the same goal and that's for our kids yeah yeah we just covered a lot of questions that are complex your work is complex and also very exciting you're doing something different every hour of the day what drew you to this role you talked about your mentor you talked about what Madeira meant to you but what what drew you to the role and what what keeps you here too and what drew me to the role was when I began to realize that what I thought was best for kids I couldn't move the levers in the position where I was to make that happen and that inspired me I also and I I've shared this before too I started my educational career in a setting that did not have a faith identity associated with it at all and I saw kids struggling mightily with life issues and at no point could we harness it was not appropriate for us to harness a conversation with them about their faith identity to be part of how they managed through something or to have faith in something larger than themselves and I and my my son went to an episk I was actually on the accrediting team for an episcopal school and it was such an eye-opener for me to see kind of what that was like to have that piece of an identity incorporated into a child's education and experience and frankly a teachers too that kind of coincided with my interest in pursuing a heads role and when I had an opportunity to work to apply to an episcopal school that really inspired me and this idea of kind of the whole child approach to me really kicks in and it's it is to work in a place and to be supporting an education that so deeply values the development of emotional intelligence as much as intellectualism is what I think it's all about it's really exciting there are a lot of schools that I would not be inspired to work in but love its mission and our values and that the deep commitment to that and our founder's vision spot on and frankly to do this kind of work and to when I talked about carrying that responsibility every moment of every day wherever I am it's not just a job it has to be part of who I am as a human being to love it and I are deeply entwined I guess that is what keeps you here is that a really deep connection to what this place is all about and knowing that I think we can we can keep aspiring to do it better I don't know if better is the right word but even more succinct well to continue to evolve to continue to evolve yeah the world needs love it graduates kind of teasing this out a little bit more when you think about love it the big points of pride for this place what makes love it what it is today the first official week that I worked here I was sitting in this office and looking out behind me where I look at onto Williams Plaza and I had this sensation that this place actually had like a heart there's like a beating heart to its center it sounds a little bit weird and crazy but love it is like a it's a living thing and it's not about one person it's pretty amazing how a place can have such a personality and and and frankly a heart and I think that heart piece impacts everybody who's here and that that certainly is my goal that everybody who is part of this place whether you're an alum who graduated in the 60s or you are a new first grader now that you feel a physical connection to this place you're not the first person to reference love its heart on the podcast which I think I mean I think you're actually the the third person to reference that which I think is pretty remarkable that that's the image that comes to mind yeah it's right out it's right out here in Williams Plaza it's yeah every day especially at like 120 p.m. what about flipping this question a little bit what keeps you up at night what do you think some of those most pressing challenges are for love it well first of all actually I do sleep pretty well because I'm tired but what keeps me I think filled with a little bit of anxiety kind of that it's kind of ever-present are the stressors of society that are working against us social media the race to that academic race to nowhere which is it just seems like such a a hamster wheel that is so hard to get off of and I see what it is doing to our kids and their health I see what it's doing to our kids and their relationships in their families I see what it's doing to the health of parents I just wish that I sit in such a privileged position where I I can move chest pieces around and I cannot I can't figure out how to fix that one we also we we have some some things here at love it that have gotten old that we need to repair we have a financial model that I wonder at what point can we not keep growing tuition and what how are we going to change that's in 50 years we don't cost as much as Duke right now yeah exactly that we we continue to be an affordable option for as large a range of possible of people some of those things those are big things and and find in ensuring that we continue to attract and retain the greatest educators we can without without really great teachers we are nothing and it is really disheartening oh I see the numbers of people not going in the profession and then I talk to colleagues who just they are they are brilliant they were such they were talented students themselves they are passionate and they they feel as though their profession is losing so much esteem and that's a bummer but we're working on that got a plan for that it's just it's that that academic race like I just have to fill a resume I'm going to school for the sake of grades and GPA not to learn like I care about the grade I don't really care about what I've learned because I have to get into a really good college and if I don't my future is capoot and I have to do sports and I have to stay up all night long because I have all these tests tomorrow and if I don't do well in the test and something has gotten to give I would love to be the school that experimented the great experiment where I got ever all the all the and all the parents who are investing in this education to say okay we're going to give this a shot we're going to make sure that our kids are getting eight to nine hours of sleep at night we're going to give kids fewer tests we're going to you know my gut is our kids would continue to get into great colleges and succeed but that's a big it's a big risk for a parent to say okay we're going to do it differently yeah I like that idea for somebody else's kid yeah or thirty three thousand dollars experiment and it's easy for us to blame college damn those colleges if they would just stop but they what did Jessica you told us just heard a USC had 80,000 applications I mean somehow they got to find 2,000 out of 80,000 well and I remember I will not name who this was but it is a dean of admission who had a highly highly selective school college and he shared with me it's not my job to worry about students it's my job to fill seats in a class and I don't know that he probably began his career thinking that way but over time and the pressures of the role and the all the things that you just described Meredith it wears on those folks too and eventually you land in this place where you just say I gotta make sure that I got seats in classes filled yeah it does and it it is right where the very tippy I don't know to be top or very bottom bottom it's where that business model hit the programmatic piece the the mission and it's I think it's why it's so important it's such a such a balancing act to make sure that we are we're finding a way not to short sheet that mission to improve a budget yeah and you can appreciate I mean in that case that school is not in jeopardy of closing in stores but the headlines the last few weeks at least in inside higher ed and the chronicle of higher education lots of colleges are closing their doors right now the money has run out so are independent school yeah and so you it's a it's a really tough the precarious it is a bad experience yeah situation that we're all in and it's it is a it's not a sustainable financial model no it or from a human point of view it's not or that right there's a lot of reasons why these realities are not sustainable it's a it's a tricky place to be and we benefit from being in the southeast where population is still increasing but we're a little bit more insulated than maybe other parts of the country but yeah it's not to say that we can afford to not can to respond to these issues right right okay let's go back to talking about the future and let's let's let's not go too far out love it's about to celebrate it's one hundredth birthday in a few years 2026 yeah where do you hope we are by then just in three years where do you hope love it is in three years i'm really excited about what the near future holds so love it for kind of the first time in its history our board has been engaged in a master planning process and was looking at this place through the lens of a whole child education and through the lens of the skill that the skill building that needs to happen for students to be successful into the next few decades internally we're thinking about the programmatic pieces and feeding them to the board and the work they were doing on the master plan and we have come up i mean we know that we have some spaces if you think about space as another teacher so you've got a teacher at school you've got parents who are teachers and then you've got this space that kids are operating in it really is a form of teacher the community center building where we have arts our arts program where we have our academic resource center we have the library educational technology where we're breaking bread together where we're worshiping those spaces are not serving our needs we need a maker space that's twice as large really to serve our students we also have this incredibly beautiful campus and kids are spending an enormous amount of time in a building that's almost completely opaque we have come up with this just a wonderful design of a space that is going to unite our three divisions really as one love it our littlest kids are going to be able to see the grown-up versions of themselves on a more frequent basis are older kids are going to to be reminded of their younger selves and to interact with teachers that they had previously teachers are going to be able to intersect more with one another it's a space that's solving a newly designed space that's solving for a lot and it's really exciting that is on the horizon and i think it is it is a building that is designed with a whole child education in this place in mind and the school finally at this moment of time have the resources and the forethought and the vision to bring it all together so that if we can if we if all goes well and we can be opening our doors around our hundredth birthday the other piece that's really exciting is that we i think we are very creatively beginning to solve for this teacher attraction and retention model through some really creative innovative ventures they do have price tags attached to them but the goal is really the ennobling of teaching and it is providing professional educators with the time that they need to continue to develop their craft and also the professional leadership opportunities and career advancement opportunities that most classroom teachers don't have they they we have had a conversation with a teacher recently who talked about this is a woman who went to a very selective university and did very well with her peers and she became a teacher a really great teacher and she has friends who became sort of they started as the associate something and then they became the assistant vice president and then became the president and they they've had this career ladder of advancement and she has gotten to be better and better in the classroom as well but has not had the same opportunities for increased growth and challenge and we are have put together some models that allow for that it's it's really exciting and i think we are going to be a place that is going to be very attractive to to the teachers we have in terms of retaining them but also of attracting teachers in the future to be a place that is really prioritizing excellent teaching and the career development of excellent teachers i think our future is really bright all right here we are the last question and as usual the only question i shared with our guest today it's maridith cole what does living love it mean to you okay this one is hard because it means so much living love it to mean means learning and growing and building relationships and environment that is safe and every sense of the word challenging joyful and unbelievably full of possibility that that's what i think it is i have to say that i am personally so grateful for your leadership maridith and your belief not just in me but so many people on this campus to help us continue to grow and see the possibilities of what love it can be three years from now ten years from now for that kindergarten or in 2050 we are in excellent hands thank you so much for being i'm living love it today thank you jessica you know i i also failed to say we just have a me i said we have amazing kids we have an amazing collection of adults and if we can get ourselves organized in a way that we have every opportunity to be a large larger than the sum of our parts man watch out yep i'm with you thank you thank you thanks to maridith cole for being on living love it today you can find living love it on apple podcast spotify or your favorite podcast app connect with the love at school on facebook twitter and instagram all things love at school may be found on our school website loveit.org i'm jessica sant and until next time i hope you've enjoyed this story from the riverbank ♪♪♪♪