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There's been so much action over the last few weeks with Auburn kind of having this late run in the second transfer portal.
And you've got kind of two groups of Auburn fans with all of this.
And this is probably not specific to Auburn, but this is an Auburn show.
It's an Auburn community.
So that's the way we are going to address it.
There's the folks that are excited, which are great.
And then there's folks that pop up on my YouTube comments, pop up on Twitter, pop up everywhere.
Let's say, well, we need to quit acting like every time somebody is added, it commits via the transfer portal.
But there's some superstar, they're going to like change the offense or change the defense or change the scope of what Auburn football could be in 2023.
And Charlie Five, I think those people, I think they're missing the point because it's not about getting a potential Heisman candidate.
That'd be great.
And we all hope Peyton Thorpe can become that quarterback when he's probably not.
But it's about the roster getting better one step at a time.
That's why it's worth getting excited about.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
It's not where Auburn, unfortunately, is not in the position that you can go try to find that first round wide receiver that popped up.
That's literally the missing piece.
We have a whole roster upgrade.
And then if you look at it as a collective, you can go by position group and there's just not one position where Auburn did not get better.
Where they didn't need to get better, whether you're looking at linebackers or you're looking at all things.
I think there's one position.
We'll get to that in a second.
Yeah, but that's the thing is you look at who left and who came in and it's not even a comparison.
It's not even a comparison.
You can look at their player rankings, their transfer portal rankings pretty much across the board on all the different websites.
Auburn got better in almost every single room.
It's not just trying to get first round.
We're not just talking about a whole lot of one done pro NFL first round prospects.
We're talking about collectively as a group competition wise.
You cannot argue.
If you're trying to argue that you're just trying to find something to argue about.
There is no discussion.
Auburn got a lot better in both portal seasons.
And it's not even up for debate anymore.
It's not.
And they added a lot and they didn't really lose that much.
I think they lost one player that would have contributed this year.
And we'll touch on that position here for a second.
But I think I just don't know if there's a trade that I would have had specifically with a second portal window with like,
okay, TJ Finley leaves and you get your quarterback, right?
And some people like Robbie more than Peyton Thor, like that's cool.
But I guarantee you 99% of people watching this show would prefer to have Peyton Thor in the roster than TJ Finley.
Like that's not a debate, right?
That's not a discussion.
No, it's not even close.
Yeah.
Travarj Dawson versus the other receivers that we've added.
Like come on.
Like what are we talking about here?
Like I just don't understand.
I don't understand the need to say, oh, yes, this guy is going to change the roster or like,
I don't understand why we're acting like everybody.
Or the new one is, oh, Auburn added somebody.
Why do you receive the Deon Sanders didn't want?
One, don't think that's true.
Two, he's still like, let's assume your premise is correct and it's not.
But let's assume that it is.
He's still better than several of the guys that are on the stage.
Correct.
Correct.
That's the point.
The point is not that you got to get, we got to get past the, is this a guy better than every other receiver in the SEC or every other receiver,
or wherever.
It's, it's, you get better by adding better players to your roster.
So Auburn,
hook, Steve,
Hooks has a chance to be better than, yeah, better than,
exactly, better than most of the receipts.
He's got physically more gifted than a lot of the receivers on the roster.
So, I mean, there's really no, there's really no argument about that.
Stop it, stop thinking, we're trying to get the goal is to find the next, you know, first round draft pick.
Like we had to completely rebuild this roster.
We added like almost 20 dudes.
Like think about that.
21.
Yeah.
I mean, think about, think about that.
That is, I mean, quick math, that's like one fourth of the team almost.
I mean, that is, it's incredible.
And you would look at guys that actually played last year and this, this, this staff's going to rotate more than last year.
But there would be, you know, where I was kind of putting at the PFF grades at AuburnDaily.com,
there'd be like 22 people that played on offense, 21 people that played on the offense.
And it's like, well, you added 21 transfers and not all those guys are going to play consistent, you know, snaps.
I think most will.
I think 15 of the 21 just lose math.
I think they will.
But then you also got 21,
you got 21 high school kids slash Juco kids coming in.
You're talking about 41 or 42 newcomers coming in.
And they've all got past the playing time and some, some are more instant than others,
but it's just you talk about flipping the roster.
This is exactly what it looks like.
So, well, this is the means to the end.
I mean, this was the next step of saying, you freeze flipping the roster in two seasons.
This is what it looked like.
And look, I don't want to call a kid out, but I think I have to for this.
Like, Steven sings like, he's fine, right?
Like he's not going to, I don't think he's going to get six or seven sacks this year.
But you and I were talking about it the other day.
He's better than Dylan Brooks.
Like the roster got better without him.
Exactly.
That's the way that's exactly what, and it's hard not to say sometimes you're like, man,
this guy just doesn't like super fire me up or this doesn't super, doesn't super inspire me.
But it's like, hey, what went out and what came in bottom line, what went out at edge and what came in.
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And I don't think that would have played him.
So I told you, there's a difference.
There's a difference in being hurt and being injured.
You can play at a high level hurt if you want to.
And if you're injured, you can't play.
So he may have been hurt.
But he was not.
He was not.
He was not running with the ones at all.
And I know you can't tell a ton by the weather and the style of play that was happening.
But I'm with you.
I'm with you at the end of the spring.
He was real hot at the beginning of spring.
And then as the spring rolled on.
It was like he started to fade.
And then you go bring in two more outside guys.
After you already brought in Martiner.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
And it could just be thin.
Right. It could just be thin.
And they're trying to get other dudes that can stretch the field.
That's cool. That makes sense as well.
It is odd.
Only so many can play on the field at the same time.
So sure.
That's true. I'm just saying something.
I mean something something's up there.
Yeah.
I don't know what it could be.
That's going to take some people mad.
Right.
But it is what it is.
No, I think it's a good question.
I think it's a good question.
All right. So that was hooks and then with corner.
I think it's a good question.
I think it's a good question.
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I think it's a good question.
I don't know.
Yeah, he didn't in New Mexico.
That was one of the things I was looking at.
Like could he could he do that and strictly outside?
I mean he didn't.
That doesn't mean he can't, but he just didn't.
He wasn't asked to.
So I don't know.
I don't know how that plays out, but yeah.
I think I think as far as the corner pecking order,
I still think JD Rim is ahead of him.
But of course, DJ James,
me and my appreciate.
Kay and Lee,
and Kay and I think Scott are all in front of them.
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