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There it is yay, it's mad at us about changing the historical day today
I'm so mead you know
I for some reason and really okay with him being mad at me because it's gonna make my life so much easier
So mead so mead guys
Let's do our introductions for a week right now in a spectacular little sweater we have one dr. Corey Petty
Say hello, I'm dr. Corey Petty and I got a haircut
Why make me more of a douche? Yes absolutely
hacker douche
Hacker douche that's my that's what I'm going for
Dear needs a new one for something. I need some sunglasses
Okay, yeah, I got a glove last was a glove well, it's more like
It's for my riding monitor. It's like a half-glove
Oh
I'm gonna have oh when it's backwards like that you look like it does that have to is that your name sir on your hat
Yes, it is and then I have everybody else's named
Yeah, for those who are watching this be jealous about our swag
I mean is there one with my name?
Do I get a unfortunately not yet?
Yes, not yet
Wow, we can fix that sure she's got a guy just got a guy got a hat guy
What do you guys think one or two good send me one more?
I like one better, but they're both good. Oh, okay. You're right. It's one better
correct
like a little different
Like that one doesn't like it the quality of the stitching is not as great quality control meeting as as this one
Like this one is Chris
This one's real crisp
Santa had I can't get included so she can go fuck
We have like there's some of these extra
Your extra hats this one there's only we'll with our names on names on
Listen, you've got one apparently
Yeah, where's it got one?
Well, no, I'm saying D does and speaking of introducing ourselves in names D
Say hi to our audience tell us about yourself. How's it going audience? My name is D. Also known as black zordon
Longest winner of flash has so far on the year and I'm ready to win another
In case you guys don't believe on blacks. We're on it actually says it right there
So you can see that it is a name that
Zomonika
Anyways, I'm excited to win another one
Again, there are no winners, but I like like the winning attitude
Jesse or so the name says on your hat is that I
Think that's my name some days. It might be different depending on if I'm in trouble
oh
Yeah, so I'm a this podcast. I don't know what do you things?
It's always it's always weird being on the spot to give a description of yourself
True, I mean, I won't have you tell your favorite color some other stupid icebreaker, but yeah
Thank you for at least giving us your name roll crowd no problem. All right, so
Flash ash we've got three subjects everybody gets two minutes a lot of that two minutes of Jesse time
We'll probably be absorbed by the others, but we'll see
It's been in some instances
not needing that time lately first subject of the day is
Bitcoin
Now has NFTs
Everybody's getting NFTs and now we got Bitcoin
Cory this was actually your you want to talk about this one. So we'll go with you first your two minutes starts now
Yes a good one
First thing I saw was the chatter in the in the slack
We're on this one and it's basically the concept of
since Tapper which was a while ago got implemented into Bitcoin it allowed for
What would eventually be something like smart contracts or a flavor of smart contracts on Bitcoin because it expands the
functionality in the scripting language of what the Bitcoin blockchain can do and
No one use it didn't get any adoption nothing in the first I guess I would call major adoption is
What's called Bitcoin ordinals, which is a way of like tagging UTXOs
in Bitcoin with additional data up to four megabytes and what people are doing is basically
shoving what is
not quite
up to the standard of Ethereum NFTs but NFT like objects or pictures picture data on to
these ordinals and then trading them around and
the good portion of the
quote-unquote maxis of Bitcoin or pissed off that people are using the blockchain and
Doing something new that they approved of and often in the sense of like Adam back saying miners should censor these things
And so like you just have this kind of weird double cross or like double talk on
What they think this supposed to be as useful for yet passing
Extended functionality and I imagine what's going to happen is they're going to end up going through the same pains that
Ethereum went through and had a deal with permissionless use of a blockchain when you expanded functionality and
They'll have to backtrack a good portion of the dumb shit. They said in the process of
criticizing Ethereum for doing it
and
Since it seems as though like it's growing in popularity and people are at least using it
I'm excited to see it and I like the fact that tap words actually being used for the first time
All right, just in time
D you are up next sir your thoughts on the Bitcoin NFT your two minutes starts now
Your mic is not on
How about now all right it is and I'm gonna I'll restart your time
You only took 10 seconds, but I'm feeling nice. So two minutes starts now boom. All right, so I got seven of them
Just wanted to see what they were about
Okay, I don't get the NFTs like that. I'm true to the chicken gang. That's about it gang gang
But when it comes to NFTs, I really really wanted to end
Wanted to die in a fire most all of it except for my chickens, of course gang gang
But now when it comes to the Bitcoin community at large, I honestly think the sound people they don't care
I think these maxes are being a little bit irrational about it. I think it's all summed up
With there's an old old miner that I follow. He's not old. He's not old person
But he's been mining for a long time
And he said I don't care what you do as long as you pay your fees
So that pretty much sums up what's gonna go on with Bitcoin with this new ordinals and taproot
And I hope it opens up a whole new world to Bitcoin
People start using taproot and trying some new things on Bitcoin
To me it was a big nothing burger
But it was just funny to see all the people on twitter that were like, oh my god, he's on Bitcoin
More ways to waste our money on jpegs
Just a bunch of twitter buzz
Like Corey said, he summed it up. The most interesting thing is people are using taproot or something
The least interesting thing is it's another enough tea thing and
You know, Bitcoin is gonna keep trucking along
Processing transactions very slowly
Well, I'll put it very slowly in quotation very slowly
and
Being secure and being slow. So let's say that's all I really have to say about it
You only had like eight seconds left. So that's that's a big answer real quick. I got a I got a
interesting
consequence of this
If jess if jessie hands over since this time
It seems like this is gonna be more than a 10 second something rather. So why don't we see how
How what jessie has to say first jessie your two minutes starts now
Um
It's cool. It's disrupting
ethos of bitcoin like Corey mentioned it's kind of
Taking all the boomers who bought into bitcoin because it was just bitcoin and
forcing them to deal with nft's
um
Yeah, I don't know nothing nothing really much more to add. It's cool
Okay. Yeah, I thought I had a feeling
This would happen. So yeah, core you've got like a minute and 20 seconds. So just awesome
So I was reading a post by on twitter pro by eric wall
um
Who mentioned that like he went into the way in which full nodes operate on bitcoin and
Um in order to be a full node you don't actually have to download all of the data or the segregated witness part of the data
Which is a part of what segwit created which is where all the signatures live
um
And the way that taproot is implemented is a part of a segwit segwit software. So
uh in the event that
These nft ordinals become popular and the quote-unquote blockchain gets bloated with them
The actuality of how of like I said purists if you will that don't care about these things
Means they their wallets have to do less work
Like they're literally having to download less data
And keep track of less things and spend more competition resources to be quote-unquote a full node
They can completely ignore all of this stuff
And so it's actually becoming more efficient for them in the event that ordinals become successful
Which is completely against a lot of their complaints, which is it's going to
Fill up the blockchain. You're not going to be able to use it, etc
It's going to be cheaper and more efficient for them to use things and I thought that was a pretty interesting like
consequence of a potential success of a use of taproot
Uh, so you can prove that
Why don't you just say that's pruneable like that's not part of become a full node
Could have shortened
Uh, no, I like to run out. It's all right. I'm done. You uh, you shortened enough for everyone involved
Take that time. All right. Just your shoes. Just see a question
Yeah, so do you shorten everything?
I just want to shorten everything. Oh, no, see this is no that is
That's a good question. You like shorten everything allowed to do right now. You can talk about that later times whatever you're shortening
I don't want not not all the time. It's a short in your response to later
I type a lot. I'll type a lot
And I have muted everyone's mics because that is not our next subject. We're going to move on
to the next one
Yeah, it's uh, it's more NFT shit
English soccer league
They've been considering a partnership with a crypto platform to expand NFT offerings in my head
It's fantasy food bowl
If you will NFT's your digital trading cards
Hopefully we have some thoughts
Corey your two minutes starts now. Yes, this one's off a coin desk. Um, let's see
I think it's interesting that
the engliff premier league is
Partnering so heavily with these things because everyone knows trading cards are big deal. They're just I guess keeping up with the modern times
They went with a company called so rare which made a raise of
680 million dollars in a series be around
Uh, I don't know what so rare does but basically the name I'm assuming they're an nft based platform
and that's a
shitload of money
and it I noticed that
They made this decision
after talking with other platforms such as I guess consensus was probably considering either something on theorem or
private chain and then also the
um, dapper labs
Uh, was also a part of those things so like they missed out on a lot of money
in the process of making this thing but at the same time, uh, they immediately got hit with like
financial regulations and gambling regulations because what's going on is they're doing these things called that allow you to
Basically participate in fantasy leagues and then get profits based on the performance of these things
But it's a free to play game assuming you have the nft's
to participate and then you can buy additional nft's to like amp reward or something like that but
Uh, I think this was the natural progression of things like fantasy football is you have
A scarce amount of these assets that represent players
You then draft them and make teams out of them and then earn rewards based on like real life scenarios, which is
I mean like if you can do it with draft kings and all kinds of other stuff. I think this is just a more
Fun way to do it with an open marketplace
That's all right. Oh, that's good in a few seconds left, but right on time as usual
Do you think you'd actually talked about this at some point in the past kind of the digital trading card game?
But we'll say you got two minutes talked about this starting now
I did
Uh, this is close to it. This article opened up. It opened up like a healthy flower for me when I first read about it
I was like non-clungible token again with these stupid ass words, but here we are again nft's
Uh, I appreciated the article one for calling it soccer because football is only American football
And let's just get that straight for everybody listening. Sorry Australian people
But I just speak truth now
um
I had no idea so rare made so much money in their in their rays. So that was surprising to me
Um, the nft's are taking off like this. Um
I lean more towards the concluding arguments of the
of the article where it was like yeah whenever you're
Profiting off of you know value based on real world events then it's kind of gamble
And I was like, oh well. Yeah, it is kind of gambling if
How much money you make is determined upon how good these athletes play or how bad they play?
um
So it's it's neat
Um, it's a neat scheme that they're doing here to try and like turn trading or trading card games also into fantasy football
um
And kind of gamify it
Uh, however, I think they're going to run into a pretty hard
Wall of you are making letting people gamble
With fancy words attached
Uh, so we'll see how it all plays out. I think it is unique
I think they need to try to take the nft verbage out of it and just use something else call them icons
Column
Play your pieces. I don't know do something marketers get creative stop using these engineering terms thrown around for the public to use dangerously
All right, um
That's all I got
Awesome
Uh, I'm going to take this moment to remind jesse and cori that you are on camera
So when you're leaning over and doing
Other shit. It's very obvious reading your article
I don't know
article
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna put your next reading more when I'm reading I was reading more about the ordinal stuff
And how people can actually use it to uh crowd uh
Crowd confirmations for other transactions essentially because they can take up the whole block
um, and that just seems
Interesting you could use that like as an attack to like I don't know
Uh, oh no
Push out on the transactions great point
Interesting that would have been
For the first topic had you read it you could have used it if you read it
Last week when a senate but that's no, I'm not reading your article your and our
I know that but reading out about it
No, I would read about it
About this stuff and I don't hear the one and you could say this one's better
But you don't so you're stuck with the shit that I find
And speaking over the bridge
On his throat christian speed the shit that I find third topic we're there everybody
Uh appto's labs gave 50k
to
What school was it that they gave to to cornel
Uh to fund some more computer science and research
Gate theory and all this stuff seems like a lot of people are starting to do this for web 3 so
Thoughts on these companies donating money and maybe making the next work
You wait your turn
Just took that in your mind dr. Cora petty your two minutes starts now this one's coming from decrypt
Sketchy source in my opinion, but uh, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't really matter because this isn't really like
Crazy it's 50,000 who gives a shit like this is enough for
A single grant to a single professor to have a few grad students for a year
Uh to do some work that no one's going to use
More than likely but well
And so the article goes on to kind of talk about how appto's cares about the education of people in blockchain
And it's a big part of their whole thing and there is a bunch of money, but they're always going to help
Push the idea of education and blockchain and so whatever gives a shit. This is a hiring funnel
Uh
It's all it is it is a way to try and train people to learn the things that you care about such that when they're done
You hire them and they're somewhat useful. That's it
Uh
And I think it's good like overall I think the
donation and grants of money to fund graduate students to work on types of problems like this
Is generally good assuming that it comes from more place like a bunch of different places and not just
um
VC chains that are for a money grab like app does like i'm not seeing them stick around for a long period of time
uh
Or be relevant in the ecosystem for a long period of time, but the fact that
it's getting
Students in college who are spending all of their time focusing on trying to understand these problems and work on
um pushing them in as many ways as they can so that they come out
uh of
Graduate school with relevant experience is important to the ecosystem and personally me because
Finding these types of people to hire is
Incredibly difficult usually you have to spend a bunch of time
Training them in a bunch of other things before they become useful on the team
That's it
Okay, d
Your two minutes on the the same topic stretch now ready for it. All right. Um, like Cory said, uh,
$50,000. I mean shit. What was that going to do?
Entry level mini van like it's not a lot of
That's not a lot of cheese
so um
You know it's a small little bit of money to get people excited about app toes
I will say this app toes is definitely following the silicon valley chain playbook very well
um
And this is a part of it, you know my hats off to them
um in this article but kind of
Like Cory said like hey we we care
We care about you and we care about what you care about
And they're kind of real in some eyeballs to the project
And they're using a lot of hardcore words that you see thrown around in the back offices
It's not but not back offices the back
Crypto business tolerance and um all of these things so I did get uh, it did peak my
You guys here? Yeah, yeah, there's so much going on right now. I cannot
Make children in my house. There's not much I could do
Throw a shoe taking it back to the old days. They were just like birds
That's how my window
Oh, oh my kiss gone off
so um
I did get cute
Oh, oh two minutes gone the yellen has begun. I'm gonna pause his time
Thank you. D is so funny. Oh, man. All right. That's I paused your time. You still got like 30 seconds
So you just take that 30
I didn't get a little curious about app toes and the the actual comment that
Spark my curiosity was app toes uses parallel execution
Uh, which the company claims makes transactions fast while keeping them cheap
So I was like parallel execution was that so i Googled it
those popular thing that showed up was uh an article or actually kind of like a guide by oracle the company
It's like multi-threading introduction to parallel execution
Up into the processes
And there's only reason bullets off the audience
Prove performance can be significant if it improves processing for queries requiring large table scans
joins or partition index scans creation of large indices
Indexes creation of large tables bulk inserts updates merges and deletes
Deletes not so good in crypto land, but we'll keep going. All right. Well your time is up. So it is. No, I needed more
I gave you more how much you want still just pick it. Well. Yeah, let's let's put a pin in it
We'll see how much time how much time do you want d like you beat them. I'll give you 30 seconds
All right, so you still got 30
I got 30 seconds of jessie town jessie times there go
Okay, and then it said parallel execution benefit systems of the following characteristics
Symmetric multi-processors clusters are massively parallel systems sufficient IO bandwidth under utilize or other
Inimidally use CPUs sufficient memory to support additional memory into the process of source hashing and IO buffers
which is telling me that like
You got a lot of money to run a node for this app toast thing because that's that's some of that looks like to me
So that just asked me the guy who's your best friend who is a expert in parallel execution
Literally
Oh my god
That 30 seconds was up already anyway all those bullet points you just had to have
I just want to throw them out there because I was like this that looks expensive to run
Talk to your best friend and expert when flash hash is done
So jessie
Wants you put together a supercomputer, which was expensive to run. So how is this not expensive to run?
Again something to talk about later jessie you've got a whopping minute and 30 seconds
Let's see if you will take all of it your time starts now
um
A 50k grant is not that much money in this ecosystem. Usually people give several hundreds of thousands of dollars
and maybe even millions
uh
So yeah, I think I agree with what kori saying
helps kind of garner interest from people who are grad students
Who may be picked up by organizations who are looking for you know new researchers and developers in the space to help
kind of push the push the envelope in terms of
how you can have higher like a more performant uh consensus
mechanisms with
without sacrificing so much of the
The
decentralized aspect I guess
Um, but yeah, it's just a it's an attention kind of move
So
That's it
Those 30 seconds if anybody wants to school them up. I have I'll put a hundred dollars down
And your choice of shit going that
uh
Aptos paid for this
How would we find out? I want to know that's why that's easy for me
It's easy for me to make because you're not going to prove it in your way
So like but like this is a puff piece about a small amount of money that Aptos
contributed to try and get a good hiring funnel, which is what everyone should be doing
except for the puff piece starts to be honest about it like
I don't know. It's it's a bunch of marketing stuff around stuff that everyone should be doing
paid for it. They probably sent out the
the old
Like education reporter like press release
The press release loop what we did all the things
Exactly
Yeah, the article is written by some junior writer is like I need something to write about it's like here's some shit
The this we got through the emails of press releases right about this
Getting down the head core. I just did a little research on old Jason Nelson from decrypt
Well
Don't hate on Jason Nelson. All right. He's making that living
This article could have been made with chat chp-t. He's like
Oh Jason not looking good. We'll never know we'll never know