Who's going first?
What's up everybody pass it out cover right back at you. I'm I'm the host that talks first
I'm another host Dr. Quarty Petty and then the third host Jesse broke
Yeah, you're working on your mid-nigh rain your voice happens to you
talk about
No, midnight rain
Come on, that's a ma pretty exciting news this week. There's been a few weeks since we've really something
It's been a hot minute. Yeah, yeah, it's even pair
Yep spin it around anyway, so think
We are
Joining the logos collective talked a lot about kind of
A lot of the chain like we first I guess this past year we did the revamp
We added Christian to the group we made a whole series around
Out blockchains are made and the trade-offs between
Like the scaling trade-offs what you need to focus on in these different layers that the
Consequences of making the choices for blockchain networks at each of these layers
Uh started hashing it out started from the started flash hash
Did all kinds of things I think this to the show ultimately got better. Thanks to Christian and
As a product of that
we basically have
merged with
Merge the logos collective which is
This is which is a thing not a lot of people know about it is a graduation of the status organization to something larger
Which includes a bunch of infrastructure projects that I spend all of my time managing so like
All the things that I do are still are like moving under one
Community brand thing like funding
So like it's for me this is awesome, right I get to work
With the same people doing the same thing
On things I care about most and nothing nothing's really going to change other than we have more funding and sort of like resources to make the show better
So now
Christian D Jesse all work
I want to know how awesome it is
Like on a scale of going to the DMV to going to Vegas
How where is the land that spectrum
Why is it going to basically Vegas going to Vegas is not 10
Yeah, that's your 10
What yeah, I know who goes to Vegas for fun
I mean, it's fun
I don't know what 10 is what is it in what's your 10 is what's your 10 Jesse?
My 10
When when playing video games is the same thing as working in terms of like how it feels which it's right there
Like I'm at that point
I just got back from on friends where I felt completely ignorant and I talked to you know my co-workers asking them technical questions on the content
We were consuming and they didn't know either which is a great place to be
So at the end of that conference what I have
Turned to the end at the end of that conference
I learned something and we potentially have a new hire
So
Definitely a win for the whole organization as well as goodness man went out there fishing got him a fish
So the answer that question this is this whole situation is close to a tent
like
What we've been talking about under hashing it out and starting it like we started talking about
And originally in Bitcoin podcasts was like the things I care about in crypto or we care about in crypto
hashing it out was a
ups
Side project or side series that grew that was more focused on
Like technical things like technical implementations and the reasons why people make decisions on how they build this stuff or like how it works and
That's what I do for a job to which is focused on all that stuff. It's just focused on the projects that
Status has enabled which is now turning into logos
and
now
I get to use the resources of that organization that I work for to make the podcast better and broadcast this stuff more broadly
Which has been so much frustrating for me is is working in this organization and not being able to broadcast as much stuff that I want to
And so we get to like it all just kind of folds in together like I just keep working on the stuff I care about with the people
I like working with
Like what else what else do you want and like grow communities that are
And also interested in this stuff like the slack podcasts the podcast slack is like the
coolest place to be so I spend a good portion of my time
Because everywhere else is
Ruled with a bunch of garbage. I have to I have to sit through and there's like no garbage in the podcast slack
When you say it goes together would you say it folds like bat towels or folds like bread mm-hmm
As a distinction
The only bread that I know that folds is a tortilla you don't have to read
I'm answering it. I'm thinking about this now. I am now trying to figure out the way this folds
Hmm, I feel like it's probably bread, you know, you're mixing everything together, you know
And when it comes out, it's delicious and everyone wants to eat it. So yeah, Brett. We're doing bread
I'm actually proofing some bread right now. So
Proofing
Proofing it's where you when you let it rise when you've mixed the dough and then the yeast does the rising
Bessie Jesse knows
That was just called
It's a dumb name
I'm getting real artisanal. I want to make some bread. I made soap two weeks ago. That was great
You're so you're so basic
What are you talking about man? Have you ever made soap before? I can't say too much
You know, I'm right there with you. That's why I can say it is because like we just made about a new bread maker at a state sale
That we went to so like first off I'm going to a state sales
Saying off my bread makers from a state sales. Oh, yeah. Those are the choices I'm making in my life
You are adulting adulting real hard
Right there. Yeah, man. This is a little this is pro tips to the young whipper snappers in the audience
You know get your special someone get some cocoa butter base and make yourself some soap together
Because then what happens later is you both get to use that soap together the shower together
You know what I'm talking about. Sorry. This is not this is not that kind of show
um
Well, we are joining was collective
Yeah, so like I think there's questions around this right so
I think one of the immediate ones that we because we even have some of the stuff or like
portions of it in the slack to the community and
The immediate worry I think from them was like
don't get
Like corporate or like don't
Turn into don't suck a bot
podcast yeah and
What's interesting about the way we've done this is that
Nothing really changes for us at least in terms of hashing it out. So like
There's there's two parts to this one is hashing out gets resources added to it so we can make the show better
It's the technical side of
Media for for logos, which is talking about things we're to talk about how blockchain networks work
Interesting projects that are pushing the boundaries et cetera, but we get to add
Production resources to it and access and we'll probably highlight the work that we do
For the projects under logos, which is
the
Like status being one of them we have codex, which is a decentralized storage platform. Jesse spends a lot of his time with
nomos, which is a
I call it an agreements network focused on privacy. So
Similar to a layer zero layer one and
Waku, which most people already know about, which is a femoral messaging layer
And then a bunch of other smaller projects that may turn into projects later
So we'll highlight that stuff and look at how they work and why they fit in and look at other projects doing the same thing
Which is similar to what we did anyway and then the other half of
Joining and merging is
Helping logos build media that's appropriate for the communications is trying to have
Right, so helping broadcast the message that logos is about which is
Building infrastructure for the network state or the creation of a network state
I'm excited because I think the show's gonna get better
Well, it's gonna get it has to be writing resources. It's better get better
What's cool stuff to happen. I watch a lot of podcasts. I'm like man. I wish we could do that
And now we can I think like I just said you want to do
Huh, what do you want to do? What are like the top three things that you want to do that we couldn't do before
I would like a less static
Visual podcast, you know what I mean? Like we're very static with our visuals us like 80% b-roll
Yeah us in a scene talking, but like when we you know when we say stuff
You're like do a little cut to what we're talking about like starwipes everywhere. You mentioned yes
Starwipes
Um, I've been watching a lot of Star Wars. I would like a lot of starwipes
And then like you know like when you mention something we could have like a visual pop-up of the thing and just like that's the thing
So just scene changes, I guess a lot of what we do visually we don't have a lot of scene changes
Which does we do explainer stuff we can maybe have some graphics that help yeah visualize that explanation
Now that takes a lot longer in post production, which may mean episodes come out
Less frequently at least the like the more in depth ones some of the more some of the podcast like shows that I consume
They only make like 12 shows a year right so but they they do put a lot more time into the post
And I think if we can focus on the quality and now that we have time to focus on the quality of excited about it with the support of everyone
At logos
So I'm pretty pumped about that. I know
Pretty sure. That's what I told you from the beginning. That's why we had
biweekly episodes and
Dropped your faces off a lot of episodes because it takes too much in post
But now now we can starwipe the shit out of your day. I want the starwipes. I don't think to listen
Yeah, part of this also is like it it's allowed
Like if we've been doing the show since its inception right yeah in our spare time
Like well at least the three of us Christian you you've been you've been pretty full full on such a start
But like that was the reason we brought you wrong is because we wanted to do something better than a side hustle
And this is like the next step we brought Christian on and she made things better
Content got better now like I brought Jesse into logos. So he's spinning all this time in the ecosystem learning and doing things
And now Dee gets the joint full time
And no and not spend his time not in crypto. So like you're spinning
half your time
helping me with
Managing these projects and getting things done across logos and the other half of the time like wholly focused on the podcast itself and making it better
So like yeah, it's been a lot more of the financial anymore than anything else. I should tell them learning
There's a lot going on at logos. I think we're really excited to let you guys know about it as time goes on
um
There's a lot going on. So um, this is my baby, right? This is my
This is the rest of my career
easily
I'm not gonna go anything else for my life except for this
Just as that I'm like the uncle of the baby and like the godfather
Just call me the godfather now. Yeah, Jesse the godfather broke
Okay, I'm with actually I get
quite a mouthful
You just changed that to your name and just she said
and
That joke never
My baby like I I am not doing anything else
Outside of logos like as a career until I'm retired
Yeah, I'm like that level of committed to the logos project as well. So
so like
But I think one of the other complaints is gonna be like a conflict of interest
maybe
Like you get bought you start talking about things that you want
Other people you like people are push like anytime you're
You join with a larger entity
The influence of that entity that was a worry. That's why like VC chains are called VC chains
It's because the VCs have a strong impact on
Making money for themselves and not making good software for
The
The community that's a live product or like how you sell it
And then this one or like in this one's like oh, you know
The podcast has his new stakeholders and now the there may be an influence and so
You all aren't talking about the same things and I don't think that's a case here because
The thing that we're emerging with is the thing that I also
Do and care about and have a lot of ownership in
So if you like to what we built in the first place it's coming from the same
Basically the same thing
We just have more resources to do it
That's just a larger group of people
Believe in the same thing
Yeah, that's basically that's good
That's not any different you just have more people to help
Get you that sweet sweet content
Yeah, that's sweet sweet content
Jesse you excited about
About the merge with the collective yes
You just want to talk about like an AI thing. Yeah, exactly
Yeah, I'm excited. I you know one thing that I want to try and focus on doing is
Creating more content around the project the cult codex that Corey mentioned that I'm pretty heavily involved with
And then trying to use the template of kind of
The content that I'll lay out that is surrounding decentralized
Storage projects and see if that works for the other projects that are within the logos collective
But yeah, I'd like to do more kind of specific content targeted toward what I do
For codex and what what the researchers and engineers are actually building out there and how it kind of
builds on
the
Space overall in terms of what has existed and what what can be kind of like pushed
Further so like
I'm pretty excited about that content. Yeah, you have an example like a
Examples of other shows that do something like us
Or like so a model for someone to understand what you're talking about
I don't think I don't think it's a podcast that many people would listen to
There's a there's a podcast about yeah, I mean it's it's more for like technical technical people
So there's a z there's a podcast called the zk podcast
Which does really great educational like primers on the zk space overall
But I think that
There could be more information given on
The problem of data durability and how that applies to decentralized storage
So you talked about the at the event you're at didn't you?
Yeah, yeah, I spoke with Anna Rose and she gave me an email to
um
Have
Like dialogue with with the podcast like between our podcast and their pro podcast to try and create like a content
uh
Like a some sort of like future content collaboration between the projects that are within the logos collective and
some of the projects that
They host
So bridge the golden bridge
Partnership we're creating a roll of collaborative content creation
That would be a cool name. What's the what's the thing they do with like with the like the shows of different
Like uh
Cross over YouTube creators do yeah like crossover. What's that? Is that what it's called? Yep. Yeah lab
Call it like you remember like uh, you know when the Ninja Turtles went into
Like the other cartoon it's called a crossover
Canio yeah, yeah, what was it? No, I'm sorry
Ninja Turtles went into the power rangers one time
And they fought your line that never happened. No, it did it actually happened
It had the 90s as well as a dream you had
No, it was not it was like a fever dream, but they went in there and they fought with power as if I read it and uh
The other guy
I had on I had something I want to say and I've come just one hundred percent forgot it based on that oh
I mean how could you remember after hearing that in that crossover
collaboration? Yeah, one I wanted to say like one of the the first things we'll do
In terms of like additional content on that on the technical side the asking outside of things
um, I hold a
Usually hopefully weekly research call um that highlights
Some area of research that's happening within the projects. I maintain
or we maintain and
We'd like to publish that right? So the first one of that will be oh no, he just sent me the IMDB for that interesting
Uh, yeah, you know, it's fast
Good job young Jamie uh
Yeah, the first one of that is is highlighting the research that
Uh, the codex is doing around data validity sampling for the Ethereum foundation
So they got the grant that looks at
um
This problem that Ethereum is trying to
move into for the next iteration that has to do with the thing called data availability sampling and codex does a lot of research for that
so
We had a research call on that they went over the current
Like what it is and the progress and some of the results they've come to so far
For that grant and then the other
Research resources we have within the organization learned about it ask questions
gave criticism etc and it was a great hour and a half call to like highlight this
Serious research problem in ecosystem and that's perfect. It's a perfect kind of content we want
To be publishing and so we I've been doing this for
About a year now and we want to start
Turning this weekly call and does something that we can publish and other people can consume and understand and
Join if it if they want to so like that's an example of
What we're able to start doing as a part of this
When it's coming out. I don't know whenever we can get some post-production stuff and figure out how
We do content pipelining and all that stuff
We need to determine
You'll know whenever we figure it out when it hits your feed. That's when you'll know
Oh, should I talk about some of the changes?
There's gonna be a few changes
Right so TPP
Oh, yeah, that whole network that we had and ran and that feed
That feed is gonna get straight up in Indiana Jones one day
It's gonna be TPP the next day. It's gonna be logos and you're gonna be happy about it
No, whatever it's called. I don't know. It's called but like some
Unifying ain't gonna be TPP media brand. That's not TPP
It's not gonna be what do we do with all that old the Bitcoin podcast content
That's just gonna sit in the crock pot and infinity slow cook and
whenever
You know, we feel we need it. We'll time into it
But for right now it's just gonna be an archive of the internet. It's just gonna be a gym on the internet
I guess like people can stumble upon it. It'll still be stumbled upon
Passing it out obviously will be co-branded with logos collective. So that's obvious
Um, I will you see I'm growing out my Michael B Jordan mustache. That's gonna stay around for a while. That's part of this
um
Jesse's gonna grow his hair out again
Um, what else changing?
Are we just talking about hair now? Is that forever changes? We're just talking about general changes and then
No new hosts too for some of the shows like there's gonna be the whole other side of content pumped through this that's
Like not technical. Yep, it's political in nature
A new look right not for hashing it out hashing it out will always be technical
It's the technical side of things, but will it ever be the other wing is gonna be a political way of
Why are we gonna get replaced?
I mean, that's that we're not forever replace you for hashing it out. No, no
We're simply a replaceable Jesse. I'm not I'm a replaced Jesse. We'll see
Yeah, you're gonna moniker is that an ex- a staggering pace Jesse
Jesse young Jamie the godfather broke
I think you have earlier too
You're just you're getting a lot of nicknames there
Building up the pseudonyms for his internet personas
You got to use that Jesse young kids have a bunch of personas like I'm Cory Petty everywhere
Also known as petty
and
Why young kids young kids just have all kinds of like pseudonyms and personas and they like show up as different people
What's your call of duty like in game name is it? It's not actually petty, right? It's petty, huh?
Yeah
That was a nickname I had in high school
Steeder Hill not for any like gross or sexual reasons
There's a guy named Pepe. He was my friend and I called him Pepeho
And he called me petty hoe and then everyone else started calling me that and then that stuck
And
It's we're soccer players that it's weird right soccer players were weird, so it's a Pepeho
I mean, I think we don't feel them be like pico petty hoe and I've say
That's not true. That was like a Brazilian thing isn't it like
You know how they add hoe to every at the end of everything
No, so that's not they don't add hoe at e-no, which means small
I thought it was H.O. at the end of everything. No, so like
Ronaldo
Which is the you know the famous Brazilian player like they the younger ones who also got named Ronaldo who played soccer
Got called the Bernal Dino, which means little Bernaldo
So but even Ronaldo is not R O N A R
L D A it's not D O. It's D H O, right?
No, our old dough
Eño is I in H O
So like the letters are there so when you when like it's I and H O so there's just missing the first two
I see I see I didn't I didn't know because in Spanish like in mexican
Maybe that's why he did it in the first place
Pepe
And that's what I'm thinking we were young and dumb and I just did it back, but yeah, that's where it came from
Yeah, but yours is spelled hurl like a prostitute
Yeah, you're giving why yeah, I spelled H O E like a like a garden tool
Teenage boys way too much credit here
There was no like there was not a lot of thought here or like purpose. It was stupid. Yeah, there was a stuck
There was like a eight hour window
When you changed your username to petty file
Yeah, that got banned
I thought it was hilarious
It's a people who love me petty
It's a P G I L E
Oh, I was definitely PH I L A P E T Y P H I L E and that
flagged real hard
I thought it was hilarious. It's a really good
That sounds hilarious
Cory
There was one admin at Xbox Live was like is this kind of serious?
That is last long
I only changed it to that because someone flagged that you know
I want to change by David or bro code now
Do it
It'll work one
It'll work
Anyway
What else we got what else is changing
I'm excited for all like
To like post production branding
Marketing things we can do to like actually grow the community because we've never had time or talent to do
Yeah, I'm pretty pumped about that. I want to know what I can create stuff. I can't market it
I want to know like whoever's listening
This far into the podcast. What do you want to see
With the with the power and resources available to us. What would you like?
Oh
There's something we're going to have to do eventually with migrating the slack
somewhere
Because it's the big one podcast.slack.com or whatever it is
That's just pull them all into the logo server in discord. No
No, let's just wait till communities is up and put them all over there and then communities is up version one right now
Point one or something, right? That's no zero point. So I don't know the communities version
Um
Status desktop is currently in beta phase
At 0.10. I think they'll be dropping 0.11 here relatively soon which has a lot of updates and then the timeline for 0.12
Is it too far behind that or after that?
Uh, and but communities is scheduled to be like version 1.0 launched at the end of q2
And so that's going to be what is
ostensibly a status or a discord replacement with native crypto
So like when you use the status applications
To do that and I'd love it if we migrated to that, but I mean is it worthwhile to just
Move the discord and then do that. I don't know. He's like status communities applies a part of the the launch
There's a built-in
Like discord migration tool
That allows you to say like import community from discord
And then create your status community off of that which which makes it easy right so we just build the discord we want
We can use that and the migration should be
straightforward
So you mean the thirst is the end of q2
Huh?
Mm-hmm June 3rd end of q2, but it wouldn't be June 30th
The one that I'm looking at shows June 3rd, but I mean if you're doing the end of the month then yeah
Is is it the beginning of June or the
At the end of May
Like you know me like what's what marks so I don't know it's the end of the sixth month. What if I held that is
The end of June you know what we're gonna keep it moving. We're also changing some of the visuals
We're gonna be changing the thumbnails
Which I just found out recently thumbnail doesn't mean all images on the internet
No
Does that
Hold on
No, D you're right. It's through June 30th for whatever reason the link I looked at just a double check show just forgot the zero
Well, hello, I think they dropped the zero. I think it'll be all guys out on the language that you got to speak
You see there's 12 months in the year and if you divide that is what I what I thought is they were padding it like giving three weeks
For everybody to delay get in all your shit in terms of the information so that they can generate the quarterly report
Oh, I got you got you
We want to come back to Corey's face whenever he found out D thought all images on the internet with thumbnails because that was pretty great
Well, you gotta understand where I'm coming from though Christian. I grew up at a time
Where there was this primordial topsoil of
I don't think you're that much
What is doing
Stable the fusion have to say
And sure what what year were you born
1985
So
Remordial topsoil
Older than me
I'm uh, I got great. I got grease
But like I'm really well, so it's like uh, you know, there was this thing in the 90s that blew up on the internet gold
You know porn and there was always like this tab that would be like look at the thumbnails and then you click on it
And it was pictures and then so my brain at the time. I don't know 12
I'm like oh thumbnails equal pictures
So my whole life my 38-year-old life. I've just like images on the internet equal thumbnails
It wasn't until last week when I was talking with Christian who knows what she's doing and the
I think Shmetta who knows what he's doing Nick. He was like no, no, not all images of thumbnails and I was like
Probably should have been wrong about that. I believe the question was are you talking talking about the thumbnail or
The like full-size image. Yeah
And I was in my mind. I was like there's big thumbnails and small thumbnails man
What are you talking about like we need all the thumbnails, bro? Like every
Every kind of thumbnail you got
So
That was a fun conversation. So remember kids don't trust anything you learned from 90s porn
That's true
Not gonna help you. Not gonna help you. We probably didn't that don't trust anything you learn from porn
Like
Don't
Let it entertain you but not inform you
Yeah, don't try none of that stuff in real life. Let me tell you don't get you far
Don't get you far at all. No
I worry about primaries
Was that your dad's TV face right there? I was trying to load stable the fusion up
But I forgot how I do it on this computer. So I was never I'd get
Talk about stuff that was monetized faster. No, I can't even use mid-journey anymore. It was like
It's like no got to pay for it. I use chat you can even like free versions for everything got to pay for it. Oh
Word
Yeah, see. Oh man free stuff like they try to make you feel like a pirate these days
It's free on
Welcome to the little guts
Pirates
Pirates
Anyway
Yeah, yeah, we're working with a lot of cool people. It's been so many interesting
Different people with and he will goes collective
How how is how is how if things been on your side Christian in terms of like integrating with calms up
Yeah, so if just for just for context here
Christian joined the communications hub
Which is like all of the just giant entity to focus on how we communicate things across all the projects
And like the overall mission for what logos is about and
They're finalizing a lot of the like
Communication strategy and how we how we do this where we go about doing it which dictates how the
Other side of the podcast stuff works and Christian is a part of that
Yep, yep, so I'll be
Given post production time to hashing out but then
Using my reporter skills for the
politically leaning podcast they want to put out and
Oh, I've been keeping my face off of this thing because I didn't want to be on it, but I guess you'll be seeing me
So you smile more
You look so pretty when you smile at home
Punch them punch them through the internet
All right, I think that phrase is a reason that's a reason he's that it's over the internet and not to my face because he knows that
She can take your ass
But logo's collective I mean it's been great. They've got
Graphics and like media production which is gonna, you know, bring that razzle dazzle that D wants and I mean
Everybody's just they're just cool and they're knowledgeable and they're delightfully weird
Which is you know the kind of person I want to hang around and I'm like from all over the place
So trying to make a meeting time is fun
This our team is California, North Carolina
England
Yeah, I'm nicely placed though
Yeah, that's one of the consequences of working in an organization like this is that there's so many time zones
They've just have to um you have to meter your excitement
Uh
Expectations like I get so excited when I'm talking to people
About things that I would like to have happened and work on with them
But you know, I've been I this is the first time I worked a hundred percent remote right so like in rl
When you get that excitement going everybody's in the room and it's like yeah like yeah
Yes, let's fucking go and but like now it's like I'm so excited
Enter and you stare you stare and you like man somebody's dots are gonna pop up somebody's gonna start typing
Nope, nobody's typing
I'm only striking you like thumbs up and like emoji reaction
Yeah, the emoji is that high it gets you a little pump is like oh fire emoji or oh smile
Yeah, but you don't get it's a late reaction right you come back 30 minutes later you're like oh I guess I'm I got some I got some
Moji somewhere but then the if it's just an emoji reaction
It's kind of a little bit bittersweet because it's like man. I see the smiley face, but wow
Give me some words man like
I'm hoping like with the off of you get some cool memes and gifts. Oh good lord
You memes the meme game is strong
These guys it's like his entire computer is basically meme reactions
He's got a he's got a treasure trove of them
He's got a meme that for 100% I've seen him uh
Let's see what I was gonna say uh yeah, so like part of my excitement for this as well as is
Helping build that internal communication stuff. So like because like the organization is huge
Like people underestimate people think about status. Yeah, it's huge
They automatically
Just associated with a mobile app right
But in reality like the entire organization like status organization which is
Turning into the logos collective eventually more is is massive
And when I start explaining all of that to people like oh wow, they'll do all of that
It's that's a lot of people. I think we're like 170 strong right now, but like it's
There's a lot more growth to be had based on the ambitions of the of the projects and
When you grow to that size you you lose
The ability to understand what's going on across the organization completely. It's like too big to follow
Everything and so there's a lot of pockets of really cool work
And communities doing stuff and people that I've never met
That I don't get access to and so by making more content that's consumable and relevant
To all the stuff we're going on and it helps build the communities so like just like the slack. We're like
People talk about this stuff and you get that more real-time reaction, right? So like you have come we have conversations in the slack
It's it's happening 24-7 people are talking and you get some of that
I don't know that excitement the community excitement when things are happening and you can camaraderie and things like
that
And more I want more of that not only for
Communities we have like the podcast like
but also for
Logos and the people that are doing stuff inside
Jesse you think of what I'm thinking fellow program manager
You think where I'm thinking we need voice and video inside saddest setup
Uh, that's a given I wasn't I was thinking that but I was thinking like one of them will workspace things that you found
Where you can just like that was virtual ones being a virtual cafe with people
Yeah, what do you mean? Why are you making that noise? That's a weird space. No, you know
It'd be cool if they had a call a duty lobby like you could be in while you're working
What do you mean like I like a what do you mean? You know, you know like like like a VR chat
We could just like hang out and a lobby
It's good to work with people that are working at the same time
It's like a part of our evolution man. That's why there's a whole you go to the water cooler and you talk about what you're talking about
Yeah, just hang out like make we can make it big and make a great channel
Keep some off-sours and just hang out on the voice channel and then while you're doing some work
If you're working like have a status cafe like yo, I know it's not a real cafe
But you know like at least you know if you're working and they're working you can work together
Virtually, I don't know it's cool, but it's a vibe
Probably what you were thinking I will not go to the cafe probably
That would only distract me, but you know, but you would use a little character right to control to move around and talk to your co-workers
What's that? No, no wouldn't do that either
No, I don't want to see anybody. There's a thing
No, I see you me and Christian do not want that
And if we're doing something together
Let's do it, but not just we're working on our individual projects. We should do it in the same space
So there's there's area like proximity area of effect chat
So like if you walk away from your co-workers, they can't hear you
You're effectively in your cone of silence. Why would she be there then
Where she can just be at home and her real cone of silence
You could see them in the office as little Chibi characters like playing Pokemon Red
And they she can see them working together at a table
But she's just not close enough the table to be able to hear them neither they hurt
I was Jesse on the C Jesse. They don't know how we struggle through Chris. They don't they don't know
We struggle through kiddo zombies together. We did that
Happily with Corey on this one and I don't yeah
Y'all make it I'll show up one day and check it out
Working working with people like okay, here's what I learned going to this hackathon was so
Amazing because I learned so many new directions of like ZK stuff that I didn't even know existed
There's so many derivatives of plonk
Like there's plonk-ish sort of things. There's like turbo plonk. There's plonk-y too
There's halo halo two they had halo two in the slideshow
Like yeah, like the game
Like like they put master chief. Yeah, but what does that do with that virtual environment?
No, I'm just saying like eating up with people virtually or you know in meat space
Meat space less ideal because you actually have to travel in an aircraft to get to you know a different location
in all the you know
Dead space that dead time and space that comes with that like layovers and
Missed flights because people can't be on time. He strictly submarines for me. You can you do those aircraft buddy
Um, listen D you want to if you want to have a like virtual happy hour once a week. I'm with you
But I like it. It's like work wise. I don't I don't need to be distracted
agree
All right, I'll take breaks in these things
And like that's that getting the camaraderie because that's what you miss
You miss that for for digital
I agree with your work environment. You need to be solo to do deep work. Yeah, for sure
Collaborative work or pair programming like that's so much more entertaining with other people. Yes
Well, yeah, but he was saying I'm not doing collaborative work. I'd just be sitting next to somebody
Oh, yeah, I guess if you don't do collaborative work then it doesn't doesn't make sense. You could just be solo
This is my collaborative work and look we're all here
Yeah, this is this is collaborative work
I'll do it
But more collaborative work
And a different context other than a podcast
That's my work
Yes, I I'm with you Jess. I show up to the status cafe crypto zombies was hella fun with D
That's like one thing that kept going let's do more that let's do speed run Ethereum together D
What's that be fun to watch
Yeah, you guys want to watch me try to program. Let me tell you something. You're just in for you're gonna see me get how frustrated
That's what you will do speed run Ethereum. We'll do rust by example and then we'll dig into a zk MOOC
By damn bane. I've have a good one already that I'm ready going through
I'm going through all these things already, but I'll run it back with you
You want to do that. I'll do that, but I don't know how much value I bring to the the work. It's you're just there for the camaraderie
So I'm saying just there for the camaraderie
Yeah, you're there as the eye candy
Well, somebody's laundry done
Yeah, that's mine
Yeah, we got a lot of that long machine kicking at old school out here. I need I need to turn it off got that 70s buzzer going
Yeah, really
I mean, we've been doing this for a hot second. So I think anybody final thoughts basically mine is it's only gonna get better
Community should grow too because we get to broadcast a little bit
Instead of like never posting anything on any social media or site or whatever
Yeah
All right guys, let's wrap it up. Thank you guys for tuning in
Why don't we do that? I don't like tunes and things anymore
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