Surgeon General Warning About Social Media & Kids – Mo News Rundown
Hey, everybody.
It is Wednesday, May 24th.
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I'm Moshe Wannoonu.
And I'm Jill Wagner.
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Jill, I've been taping a couple interviews today
that will be rolling out in the coming weeks.
Some of you may know Carlos Whittaker,
motivational speaker, author of a book called How to Human,
Very Inspirational Positive Conversations.
So look out for that on the premium account
and then on the main feed after that.
And then also spoke today with the editor-in-chief
of Gallup, the polling company, particularly interesting.
I mean, we talked about domestic polling,
but very cool.
They pull in 140 countries.
So he was talking about how culturally they have to change
the way they ask questions, including how they are actually
able to pull in places like Afghanistan, China,
and Russia.
So be on the lookout for that episode as well.
Okay, I am officially interested.
I didn't know if I was going to be, but you got me, Moshe.
Jill, every time she hears, I'm like talking about polling,
she's like, no, this is actually,
this will be interesting, I promise you.
The truth is that anything can be interesting, right?
That is part of our job here is to try to tell you
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So we appreciate all of you.
We try to make every story interesting,
or at least find the interesting tidbits for you every day.
Speaking of which, let's get to some of the headlines,
a warning from the Surgeon General about social media
and kids and what we could do about it.
It appears Ron DeSantis will be officially declaring today
on Twitter with Elon Musk.
More on the man who believes that he is Trump's biggest
threat to the GOP nomination.
It comes as former president Trump got a trial date
in that criminal case in New York related to hush money payments
and he isn't happy about it.
White House threat 18 is accused of deliberately
crashing a U-Haul truck into a security barrier
near the White House.
Apple's investing billions of dollars in US manufacturing
as it looks to move more of its production line
outside of China.
A monster typhoon is barreling toward Guam with strong winds
and a 25 foot storm surge.
How safe are buildings in San Francisco
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A new list is naming names when it comes to buildings at risk
and is LeBron James ready to retire?
Plus, Moshe has on the stay in history.
Jill, one of our favorites, Dawson's Creek
made some history today and it might surprise you.
All right, let's start with that new warning
from the United States Surgeon General,
although it probably won't come as a major surprise
to many of you.
Social media presents a quote profound risk of harm
to the mental health and well-being of children
and adolescents.
Dr. Vivek Murthy issued that public advisory on Tuesday
in a 19 page report.
He said that the effects of social media
on adolescent mental health were not fully understood,
but there are ample indicators that it is not good.
Now, while there could be some benefits
like connecting with others,
there are also so many negatives like being exposed
to quote extreme inappropriate and harmful content,
content that normalizes things like eating disorders
and other destructive behavior.
There's a lot of cyber bullying, it's impacting sleep.
Kids aren't exercising or seeing their friends in person
as much as they used to.
Now, in an interview with The New York Times
about his advisory, the Surgeon General said quote,
adolescents are not just smaller adults.
They are in a different phase of development
and they are in a critical phase of brain development.
Case in point, he says that frequent social media use
could be associated with distinct changes
in the developing brain when it comes to emotional learning
and behavior and also in the prefrontal cortex,
which is really what's in charge of impulse control
and emotional regulation and also moderating social behavior.
He says social media could also increase sensitivity
to social rewards and punishments.
Moshe reminds me of that old PSA from when we were kids
when the big concern was drug use.
Remember the egg and the voice saying,
this is your brain, this is your brain on drugs
and it showed the egg sizzling in the pan?
I literally had this exact conversation
with cognitive psychotherapist, neurofoliciana
a few months ago for that special edition
that we did of the Monus podcast.
And she said this exact thing, she said,
kids brains are physically developing differently
than ours did and that is because of social media use.
Yeah, you were talking there that,
I mean, multiple components of the brain here
appear to be impacted by social media,
talking about the amygdala, the emotional learning part,
the behavioral part, the prefrontal cortex, impulse control
and the earlier that you expose kids to this,
their brains are literally getting wired differently here.
And it does come as we've seen this huge jump
in depression, mental health issues
among young people in the last decade.
It's something you remember statistics class like I do,
they used to say correlation is not causation,
but in this case, there is clear connection here
between social media and mental health.
There's a 2019 study just a couple years ago
that found that teens who spent more than three hours a day
on social media faced double the risk
of experiencing poor mental health outcomes,
including symptoms of depression and anxiety.
The numbers are startling here in terms of use,
according to the report 95% of teens reported using
at least one social media platform,
while more than a third said they use social media,
quote, almost constantly.
In addition, among the younger set,
nearly 40% of children ages eight to 12 use social media,
even though the required minimum age for most sites is 13.
As for what to do about it,
these are general says more research is still needed here,
but that until now the burden of protecting youth
has fallen predominantly on the kids themselves,
the teens and their families.
He says that that's a lot to ask of parents,
take a technology that's rapidly evolving
and fundamentally changes how kids perceive themselves
and ask parents to have to manage it,
which has been the case here.
So what the Surgeon General is saying here in this report
and is telling policymakers is that we've got to do
what we did in other areas where we have product safety issues
and place safety standards that parents can rely on
that are actually enforced.
So the social media companies have said
they're creating their own rules here,
their own limits in terms of how kids,
teens can access this stuff.
But clearly, at least from the Surgeon General report,
he says more is needed based on initial research,
which means it'll fall on state and federal lawmakers
to impose some sort of regulation on these companies.
But most case in point, as you said,
nearly 40% of kids aged eight to 12 use social media,
even though most social media platforms
say that the minimum age is 13.
Yeah, all of them, all of them.
Yeah, so clearly whatever they're doing is not working.
But the question is then in the meantime at the very least,
what can we do about it?
There are some recommendations in the report.
They say families should talk about it
and create some type of social media plan.
They recommend having tech-free times,
like around bedtime or dinner time.
Also, they say parents really need to model
responsible social media behavior.
So for the parents out there,
it means put down your phone.
And this is harder than it seems
because we as adults in many ways
are addicted to our phones as well.
I actually had this exact conversation with my husband.
Yesterday morning, because I go on my phone a lot for work.
I post news, I listen to our podcast,
I cut clips for social media.
And he looked at me, it was during breakfast,
and he said, Jill, every single time that our daughter
has seen you today, you have had your head in the phone.
And he said, what kind of message is that sending her?
And he wasn't berating me, he was asking me
as a real question, and I looked at him and I said,
you're totally right.
And then I put down my phone, but it definitely is a challenge.
Right, you're modeling behavior for the kids, right?
I mean, it's something that has already come up.
I mean, we're still a few months away,
God willing from our first now.
And we've had the discussion,
because you know what, I live on Instagram.
And so how will I conduct myself?
And it's a discussion that we've had,
and clearly we're coming to a point now
where Facebook launches in 2004,
but like on laptop at one college kids,
social media really takes a hyper focus
in the smartphone age over the last 10 years or so.
And so we've learned a lot in these 10 years,
you have a certain general's advisory,
which we will link to in the show notes,
so you can read the full thing for yourselves, everybody.
And we're getting to the point now,
we're like, we've learned some lessons now,
and we've seen the impact of this.
And so now how do we adjust?
How do schools adjust?
How do parents adjust?
How do these companies adjust?
And is there a role for government here
in terms of regulation, a warning label?
So it sort of reminds me of, you know,
cigarette packs or alcohol or whatever.
What is the warning label that will come with social media
as we start to learn the real impact here,
especially among younger people?
The other challenge that you're gonna start to notice
when you and Alex have your baby
is that you want your phone,
because you're gonna always wanna take pictures of them.
So it's hard because you're like, wait, that's so cute.
I mean, I used to have hundreds of pictures,
especially of my daughter when she was first born.
Anyway, I do wanna do another plug though,
for the special podcast that I did with neurofiliciano
because we talked all about this stuff.
And she had some really, really solid ideas
if you're a parent out there who is struggling with this.
Okay, now on to politics.
We have an official announcement
about his official announcement.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis will announce
that he is running for president
during a discussion with Twitter CEO Elon Musk
tonight at 6 p.m. Eastern.
They're gonna be hosting an event on Twitter Spaces,
which is that platform for audio chats.
It will be moderated by David Sacks,
who is a tech entrepreneur and also a DeSantis supporter.
Later tonight, the DeSantis campaign
will be releasing a launch video.
And DeSantis will be getting on the campaign trail
pretty much right away.
He's gonna be heading to some early voting states
shortly after Memorial Day.
Moshe, this was pretty surprising.
I think what do you make of it?
Are we looking at Elon Musk, Kingmaker
and the Republican Party at this point?
It's so interesting.
I mean, Elon has, unlike other previous tech owners
and entrepreneurs who've tried to keep their platform agnostic,
if you will, Elon has made his opinions clear.
He has tweeted openly that Trump shouldn't be reelected.
He's also been very critical of Biden.
Here, we're going to see how things unfold later this evening,
whether he endorses DeSantis,
but it's just sort of a tacit endorsement
by serving as the platform here.
And Elon has tried to keep the water warm
for more conservatives as he took over Twitter last fall.
So a couple things here.
Elon is also a businessman.
He's trying to keep Twitter relevant.
And the campaign cycle, you know, typically
the last couple of cycles,
Twitter is the place to go for campaign news.
And he wants to ensure that that continues
to be the case in 2024.
Remember, he let Trump back on Twitter last fall.
So Trump has an account, but Trump has not used it.
Of course, he launched his own truth, social.
And so, and been critical of Trump.
So clearly there's some animosity building up there.
So, you know, he's going out of his way here
to give a platform for Trump's biggest opponent.
So that's going to be very interesting to watch.
And DeSantis Aid, by the way, tells NBC
that they've been watching Twitter become
this increasingly friendly space
for conservatives under Musk's leadership.
And so they believe that this allows them
to bypass traditional media
and speak directly to the conservative audience,
which is one of their goals here.
Trump, of course, is already responding, his campaign,
saying that announcing on Twitter is perfect
for Ron DeSantis.
This is the Trump campaign statement.
This way, he doesn't have to interact with people
and the media can't ask him any questions.
The knock on DeSantis has been that he doesn't like
small talk that is very awkward.
So we're going to find out more about that
as he begins to campaign here.
But that's clearly a story alliance
that Trump campaign would like to get out there.
So you have DeSantis reaching out to conservatives.
You have Twitter serving as this platform.
Elon trying to keep it relevant.
Elon potentially trying to be king maker here,
saying that, you know, Twitter is the place
to find your political news
and figure out who's going to win.
Back to the politics of all of this,
DeSantis is the biggest threat right now,
at least he'll tell you that to Donald Trump,
right now when you look at the polls,
Trump has about 50% in the GOP primary,
about half of all Republican primary voters,
say they would vote for Trump,
just over 20% DeSantis and then the rest of the candidates
are in these single digits.
So it reminds me,
when those are those numbers, by the way,
Ron, we have 2007, obviously different context here,
but Hillary Clinton was in the 40 to 50% range.
Guy named Barack Obama was in the 20% range.
This is now 16 years ago,
obviously different context,
but it does show you that movement can happen.
And so we will see,
a lot of people are very open minded
when I talk to Republicans,
a number of Republicans,
even those who voted for Trump,
are just like, I'm ready for something new,
whether DeSantis is able to make good on his pledge
that he's the only guy who can be Trump,
he's the only guy who can be Biden.
We will have to see,
but one thing we do know is,
key to winning is money,
and he does have a lot of big fundraisers lined up
and donors lined up.
And so that'll allow him to remain competitive here with Trump.
And a lot of analysts have pointed out
that it is a long campaign season,
and even Barack Obama,
who of course eventually won the presidency twice,
had some stumbles in the beginning.
They all have stumbles.
Right, so whatever winds up happening here
is not necessarily make or break in these first few weeks.
A lot of it is messaging.
Do you have the right message for the right time?
George W. Bush did in 2000,
Bill Clinton did in 92,
Obama had the right message,
the right feel for 2008,
especially with the financial collapse.
Trump clearly had a message
that resonated with people in 2016,
Biden anyway.
So a lot of it is messaging,
a lot of it will be, we're gonna see ups and downs.
You're gonna see Trump collapse,
DeSantis collapse.
I mean, this is a long roller coaster of a campaign,
unfortunately for all of you.
We will have much more, by the way,
breaking down DeSantis's bio,
what he's done legislatively, et cetera,
in tomorrow's podcast and the newsletter.
Okay, we have plenty of more news to get to,
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Okay, time now for the speed read
from the Associated Press.
Police have arrested a Missouri man, a 19 year old,
but they believe intentionally crashed a U-Haul truck
into a security barrier at a park across from the White House.
He was identified as 19 year old,
Si Varsyth Candula of Chesterfield, a St. Louis suburb.
He smashed into the barrier near the north side
of Lafayette Square at around 10 p.m. on Monday.
Nobody was injured in the crash.
Afterward, he exited the truck with a Nazi flag
and started to shout as Park Police
and Secret Service officers approached him.
He was questioned by investigators and said
that he was there to take over the government
and wanted to kill President Biden.
A witness said the driver smashed into the barrier
at least twice.
He said, when the band backed up and rammed it again,
I decided I wanted to get out of there.
I don't blame them.
Yeah, the video's a little freaky.
I posted it on Instagram for those of you
who are familiar with the area around the White House.
This is the north side of the White House
next to the Hay Adams Hotel.
So still, you have to go through the entire park
Lafayette Square in order to then get to the street
that then has the fence to the White House.
So still far off here, but still a scary situation
that played out, it led to an evacuation
of the hotel across the street.
Officers from the Secret Service and Metro PD
there in DC searched the truck after the crash.
As you noted, they found that Nazi flag.
No weaponry though.
That said, the Park Police is still charging him
on multiple counts, including threatening to kill,
kidnap, or inflict harm on the president,
vice president, or members of their family,
assault with a dangerous weapon.
That's the truck here, reckless driving,
destruction of federal property, and trespassing.
Now, the Secret Service does monitor hundreds of people
who make threats to the president.
It's not clear at this point whether Condula
was on their radar or if he had threatened the president
before, you often hear these cases,
they'll send letters in advance, and then show up.
There's a couple of these cases a year, actually,
of cars getting close, or people driving across the country
with ambitions to do harm to our leaders.
So it does mean that the Secret Service
has its hands full on most days.
From CNN, super typhoon, Ma'wara,
is barreling toward Guam, threatening to slam into
the United States territory as the strongest storm there
in more than 60 years.
The typhoon is posing a triple threat of devastation,
including deadly winds equivalent to a category
by Hurricane, exceptional storm surge,
and torrential rainfall.
This is according to the National Weather Service Office
in Guam, the storm is being described as, quote,
one that will be remembered for decades.
Joe, I actually got a message about this
from a military family.
We have a lot of military personnel out there in Guam.
It's this island out in the Pacific.
It's about a four hour flight from there to the Philippines.
It's really out there in the middle of the Pacific.
This typhoon, despite how small Guam is,
is expected to make landfall today.
If the typhoon does make direct landfall,
the island will be facing some of the storm's
strongest winds and a high storm surge.
And though Guam is located out there
in the West Pacific Ocean, an area that does see
a lot of tropical cyclones, a direct hit is very rare.
The island is just 30 miles long,
so it's been lucky many go-rounds.
And apparently it's only been hit by a cyclone
just about eight times in the last 75 years.
So because of how rare it is and how large the typhoon is,
there is a lot of concern about the potential damage
it could do.
From the AP, we now have a trial date
for former President Trump's criminal case
related to Hosh Money payments.
It is March 25th of next year.
Trump threw up his hands in frustration Tuesday
as a judge scheduled his criminal trial for next March,
putting the former president and current candidate
in a Manhattan courtroom in the heat
of next year's presidential primary season.
Trump was less than thrilled when the judge advised him
to cancel all other obligations for the duration
of the trial, which could last several weeks.
Trump pleaded not guilty last month
to 34 felony counts at falsifying business records
related to those Hosh Money payments made
during the 2016 campaign to bury allegations
that he had extramarital sexual encounters
with Stormy Daniels.
Trump has denied all wrongdoing.
So Trump said little during the hearing via video conference,
but then said his piece on social media afterwards,
writing quote, just had New York County Supreme Court hearing
where I believe my First Amendment rights freedom of speech
have been violated and they forced upon us
a trial date of March 25th right in the middle
of primary season.
Very unfair.
This is exactly what radical left Democrats wanted.
It's called election interference, all caps.
And nothing like this has ever happened in our country
before three exclamation points.
The judge said that he did arrive at that trial date
of March 25th after discussion with both Trump's attorneys
and the prosecutors.
The Trump attorneys were trying to get it later next year.
The prosecutors were trying to get it earlier next year.
They agreed to it.
A Trump attorney quoted afterwards said,
Trump knew the date prior to the hearing
and said she didn't see the reaction
that the rest of us saw on the video conference.
Now there are gonna be some preliminary dates
beforehand.
One thing the Trump attorneys are trying to do
sort of a long shot bid is to move this from state court
to federal court because some of the alleged conduct
took place while he was president
and they feel they can't get a fair trial
in a New York state court.
From the Wall Street Journal,
Apple strikes multi-billion dollar supply deal
with Broadcom.
The multi-year agreement with the chip maker
includes US made components at a time
that the iPhone maker has been trying to bring
more of that type of work in house.
Apple has long sought to replace chips made by other companies
with versions that it designs as part of the deal
that Apple and Broadcom disclosed on Tuesday.
The chip maker will supply Apple
with 5G radio frequency components
and wireless connectivity components.
The companies did not disclose the exact value of the deal.
The components will be built in several manufacturing hubs
around the United States,
including in Fort Collins, Colorado.
So we covered the trip recently by Tim Cook,
the head of Apple to India.
Apple has been trying to get more of its supply chain
out of China in recent years,
you know, for a variety of reasons,
including how the government conducts itself there,
including COVID, including, you know, anticipating
if there's a potential war at some point in China and Taiwan,
Apple wants to be able to keep its supply chain going
without depending too much on the country.
So they've been trying to ramp up production in places
like Vietnam and India in recent years.
And they've also been looking at doing some more manufacturing
here at home.
And this has also been a big push for the White House.
They have some agreement here from Republicans
that trying to bring more chip making here to the US,
only about 12% of the world's computer ships
are produced in the US,
although the government now has put new incentives in
and a $53 billion bill last year
to alter that landscape slowly but surely.
Now to an exclusive story from NBC News,
famous historic sites, low income apartments
and Twitter's headquarters all appear
on a previously unpublished draft list
of more than 3000 concrete buildings in San Francisco
that could be at high risk of collapse in a major earthquake.
This is according to a copy of a city government document
obtained by NBC News through a public records request.
The building list provides a window
into the sweeping cross section of San Francisco
that could be especially vulnerable
in a high magnitude earthquake.
NBC News made the decision to publish this list
for the first time.
The city official tasked with overseeing
the production of the list expressed concern
that publishing it could prematurely cause uneasiness
among tenants, investors and others.
You think?
Before building owners have a chance
to do thorough evaluations.
So the list excludes single family homes,
public schools and buildings constructed after 2000.
It's not clear when the list will be finalized
but the structures on the current list
have one thing in common.
They were built with concrete at the time
before engineers fully understood
how much steel or other reinforcement it was needed
to keep the concrete from crumbling while shaking.
We'll include a link to the NBC story here.
You can literally go, you know,
address by address one market street, 1455 market street,
100 drum street, et cetera, et cetera
to see if a building you know of,
how you're familiar with, is on the list.
Thousands of people who live and work in the buildings
could be taking additional risk every time they step inside.
Of course retrofitting the building
so that their deemed safe could require billions of dollars
and decades of work.
Jill, my first thought when I saw this story
was like San Francisco.
They have a lot going on right now.
Do they actually need this as well?
It's a great point, but they haven't had a massive earthquake
in so many years.
So it's not necessarily top of mind.
Right.
But if the big one were to hit,
it would be good to know which buildings were safe.
Yeah, there's a lot of concern
across the Pacific Northwest.
There's also a fault line in Seattle.
I worked on a story on that a couple of years ago,
Puget Sound and concern about a potential earthquake there
that could be a repeat of something they saw a century ago,
centuries ago.
And so always a concern in the Bay Area
given all the fault lines there.
For me, SPN LeBron James says that he'll consider retirement
this off season after scoring 40 points
and playing all but four seconds
of the LA Lakers game four loss to the Denver Nuggets.
James ended his post game news conference
by telling reporters,
going forward with the game of basketball,
I've got a lot to think about.
After the press conference, ESPN asked him to elaborate.
He said, he needs to think about if he wants
to continue to play next year.
James is 38 years old.
He just led the number seven seeded Lakers
all the way to the Western Conference Finals,
though they were swept by Denver in four games.
He played in all 17 of LA's post season games,
even though he was still dealing with this right foot injury
that did cause him to miss a month late
in the regular season.
He had a torn tendon.
It is possible that he'll need surgery this summer,
but still somewhat surprising news.
At the same time, when asked by ESPN,
if he believed a full summer of rehab
could get him back to being the player he was
before the foot injury, James nodded and said,
because I'm still better than 90% of the NBA, maybe 95%.
So clearly the things he still has it.
Over the past several years, including this year,
he has said repeatedly that he wants to stay around
until his son gets in the league.
This is oldest son, Bronny,
who recently said he'd be playing college basketball
for USC next season.
LeBron said, I've done what I've had to do in this league
and my son is gonna take his journey,
whatever his journey is, he's gonna do what's best for him.
Jill, earlier this year, we covered how he beat
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's all-time scoring record.
And beyond that, he was asked,
well, what's left for you to do with this point?
You've won championships,
you've gotten the all-time scoring record.
And he said, I wanna play with my son.
So it'll be interesting to see how this plays out,
especially after he was able to take the Lakers
further than many people thought they would be going this year
until they were swept in the Western Conference Finals.
It feels like a Tom Brady situation
when it comes to LeBron.
Both multiple championships, both this,
like what are you playing for at this point?
You still wanna go out strong.
Brady came back, was clearly not the comeback
or final season that he was anticipating.
So I think that's gotta be going
through LeBron's mind at this point.
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in a gluten-free high protein way.
I'll tell you more about that at the end of On This Day.
But let's get started here.
On This Dane 1883, the Brooklyn Bridge opened.
Jill just about a half mile from me in Brooklyn.
It connected Brooklyn and Manhattan in New York City,
considered a brilliant feat of 19th century engineering.
And Jill, but some people may not know.
It was a woman, Emily Warren Robling,
who handled the completion of the bridge.
Her father-in-law was the designer and builder.
He started the job back in 1869, 14 years previous to that.
But then a fairy injured his leg.
He died three weeks later from a tetanus infection.
The job then went to his eldest son, Washington,
who three years later contracted a sickness
caused by the Bridges Underwater Foundation.
Emily was Washington's wife,
and then she would go on to manage the completion
of the project as it opened On This Day in 1883.
Very cool.
Do you want the job at that point
when the first two people suffered?
Very, very serious.
And in one case, fatal injuries while working on it?
Yeah, it seems like if your father-in-law goes down,
your husband goes down, but good for her.
She took it through.
And it's still spectacular.
Brawning across it, walking across it,
driving across it, seeing it.
It's iconic. It's iconic.
And then you have some more modern bridges
that connect Manhattan.
Manhattan, by the way, is an island.
About 2 million people on it.
And you're either connected through tunnels or bridges
to get off Manhattan.
Nothing really compares to the Brooklyn Bridge.
And now to a couple On This Days, more recent On This Days,
it was just three years ago, 2020, on This Day,
when George Floyd was killed during a arrest
in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
It set off massive protests around the country,
generating greater support for the Black Lives Matter movement.
Police officer Derek Chauvin was later convicted of his murder.
And just last year, it was just a year ago today
when we had the tragedy at Uvaldi, the school shooting,
19 children, two adults killed at Rob Elementary School,
the deadliest shooting in Texas history.
All right, now to a big birthday we're celebrating today.
Bob Dylan, born On This Day in 1941.
He turns 82 today, Jill.
I still listen to Bob Dylan all the time,
especially when I'm driving.
So when is Bob Dylan time versus Bruce Springsteen time?
Like, what's the mood?
There's a couple of Bob Dylan songs
that just have gotten me through some moments in my life.
And so usually there's a few roads that I like
that when I drive on them, I like Bob Dylan.
Jill and Sir Margulize, 82 now, he released his first album
when he was just 21 years old.
And next year, the times they are a change in
turned 60 years old.
Wow.
All right, two other pop culture items here on this day,
23 years ago, May 24th, 2000, Dawson's Creek
aired the first ever prime time romantic kiss between two men.
I did not realize that that was on Dawson's Creek.
And that we had to wait until this century to see that.
That did not happen in the 90s,
because a lot is made of the Ellen Coming Out episode,
just a few years previous,
but then it took a couple more years before we were able to see
a kiss between two men in prime time.
And Jill, I know we talk a lot about 80s and 90s music,
but I want to throw back to this song.
We'll end speaking of music.
We'll end with this song turning 54 years old today.
♪ Show got it ♪
♪ Oh honey honey ♪
Jill, on this day in 1969,
that is sugar, sugar by the Archie's, it was released.
It was actually launched on a cartoon show,
an animated show,
it would become the number one song
on the pop charts in 1969.
Also a great song that I'm surprised
hasn't been remixed yet, unless it has,
and I just don't know it.
Definitely waiting for a moment for like Miley Cyrus
or Lizzo or Lady Gaga to like do their version of it.
And Jill, one thing that surprised me
is the song came out in 1969.
It has the feel of a more of a 50s, early 60s song.
It was coming out, you know,
despite those tumultuous times of Vietnam
and the rock era, et cetera in 1969.
So it feels like a little throwback.
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The hotline.
Yeah, I'm in tight.
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Call the hotline, it sounds urgent, I like it.
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And again, still working on 1-800-711, Jill,
for Seinfeld's references, Bruce Springsteen songs.
We could talk about Dylan.
And about Dylan.
It sounds like about Dylan.
Yeah, today's blowing in the wind over on the Jill line.
All right guys, see you tomorrow.
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