Free Agency Rumors, NFL Players as Pokemon & Rich Eisen | New Heights | Ep 32

I remember it was like 2015-16 somewhere around there and Rodney Hudson our center had just went to Oakland and there was a big question like Oh man, where are we gonna go with the centers? I'm like man. I went up to John Dorsey It was our GM at the time like John. I know I know a center He's he might be tied up on me right now But I know a center if you want to go get him you I think you'd fit it perfectly You tried to get the Chiefs to the triple 1000 percent every year. Well, not now. I just got creeped hungry. Yeah, no We don't need you Welcome back to new heights ladies and gentlemen presented by way sports and entertainment and brought to you by our friends at fireball the power for pound undisputed of the world Whoa a wonderful and delightful Cinnamon delight new episodes and new heights come to you every single Wednesday ladies and gentlemen But subscribe on YouTube and wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media platforms at new heights Show Jason talk to his brother what we got coming up. Yeah, we got another great episode Trev We got some free agency news to the touch on between the Eagles and Chiefs We got on all these rumors surrounding the Eagles a lot of rumors a lot of rumors as well as a fantastic interview with my man Rich Eisen Unfortunately, Trev could not be there. He wasn't at the guy to this one But man, it's a doozy and after that we're also gonna touch on a little bit of Pokemon I guess Pokemon is a Pokemon or Pokemon. It's Pokemon. Hmm. I think it depends on where you're at in the world But first as always new new Still a top five podcast display fighting off all these basketball and three live sports Podcasts and it's thanks to all of you the 92 percenters have kept this show going strong in the all-size-it So, thank you for tuning in Before we get to comments, we're gonna tell you guys the biggest news the biggest We're officially doing a live show. It's live. That's right for the draft the Wednesday before Thursday Round one that usually happens Wednesday comes before Thursday. That's right in Kansas City We're gonna be doing a live episode on April 26 at the Kansas City musical April 26 at the Kansas City musical. We're really doing this, huh? It's I mean those are dates and a venue that means we're really doing this Wednesday April 26 at the Kansas City musical Yeah, it's gonna be produced by the wave sports entertainment crew as well as being brought to you by live nation This is I'm sweating right now. It's real deals. It's intense. Yeah. I don't know if we're ready for this But it's gonna happen new heights live in person and all of our usual bullshit, so We will have some surprise guests. We're gonna have a bunch of giveaways in hell. Maybe we'll even sign your baby We're gonna have a little baby sign station. That's right your baby and bring ear muffs for them because we are not censored and Tickets are gonna be available for purchase via ticket master starting Friday March 24th at 10 a.m Oh, and who I don't know how big the venue is two days before it jumps off. That's gonna be March 24th the event that's gonna be a month and two days before this could be wild At 10 a.m. Is that Eastern time? I'm assuming it's Eastern time I mean the whole world runs on Eastern time other than The Midwest the mountain time and the Pacific Everybody outside of the Eastern time zone. Yeah, but when somebody says 10 a.m. Without specifying. What do they what do they mean? Midwest Let's give the fan mentions of the week We had a lot of comments this week a lot of you seem to enjoy the Harry Potter talk Although some people thought it was a little weird that a sports talk show was talking about Harry Potter, but Creative nonetheless, we got a lot of buzz as well as our workaholics poop dollar It it got so much buzz. It was a common in on by Blake Anderson We all know Blake from workaholics Felt honored that he Was inspired to comment on that little clip on Instagram as well as Backstreet Boy Kevin Richardson Yeah, which be a baby big team stand. I'm gonna be honest I was always more of a Backstreet boy than an in-sync boy. I don't know you were where were you at? That was the battle in the house. Yeah, no, I had the in-sync album That was like the battle in the house man. You had your just take it in sync now because your buddies with Justin Timberlake That's what we're taking in no We were blaring that back back streets back Then The fact that you're calling yourself a boy band fan right now is fucking I mean I wasn't a boy I was a boy band fan then I'm not a boy band fan necessarily now But I feel like when you grow up with them, you retain that knowledge 90s era was a little different backstreet boys in sync 98 degrees I'll never forget when I was on a bus to some summer camp and somebody told me about backstreet boys I was like what the heck is backstreet boys and I listen to it. I was like this like oh you were like oh This is backstreet boys. I got told in the same bus ride about backstreet boys and WWF two things I had known nothing about and they both ended up being an enormous part of my childhood, so Thank you to the skinny kid that was sitting next to me. I forget what your name is His skinny kid though. You need to eat. Yeah, you got to eat kid I'll tell you what he knew his WWF and his uh in his backstreet boys. Let's do it, man I love it shout out to Kevin. Why did you like in sing more? Man, I mean JT just had a star power man. He just said that star power. He did. Yeah the star power You've always been more of a dancer, and I feel like in sync was definitely a more choreographed dancing crew whereas backstreet really just focus on the vocals I can see that though I can see where you're going with that little wait definitely more flashy for sure I mean right yeah for sure and I was I was a big Mickey Mickey Mouse Club kid. No you were not timber lake Britney Spears Christina Aguilera Were they all in Mickey Mouse Club? I don't know Britney Spears was I know Christina. I don't think she was yeah There's some other people somebody else in there goofy thinking of Who else was in there? I don't know. Oh no either. I forget there was there was one other who was one They were all in there along with Ryan Gosling. That's the one I was missing. I knew it I knew it was a star-studded crew. I remember seeing those little videos of him and Mickey Mouse Club when Lala Land was Making the rounds look at you great movie great. Look at you. I think Lala Land went on Oscar. Yeah I didn't even need to go to the Oscar party saw that Alright, but what we really got everyone going last week was obviously the Harry Potter segment The Jay Z Khelsey sorting hat in the NFL players into Hogwarts houses Yeah, for some reason a bunch of people thought that I belonged in Hufflepuff, which It's preposterous Let me tell you what what's crazy about the Hogwarts houses and just really? Harry Potter genre they've had to expand it for all the fans Right so now Hufflepuff actually has like a meaning and like a reason but I read the books all right A full of me there was Gryffindor there was Slytherin there was Ravenclaw and literally in the books It says in Hufflepuff took all the rest Hufflepuff is just leftovers. All right The Smarties were in Ravenclaw the goodies were in Gryffindor and the baddies were in Slytherin It's as simple as that. Listen. Listen. You don't need to over complicate this and I ain't no fucking Hufflepuff, all right There ain't nothing wrong with leftovers Jason. I love some good leftovers. Listen. You need leftovers Everybody needs leftovers. That's what I'm saying You don't need to take stuff though. Everybody's playing this Harry Potter game and thinking Hufflepuff is some noble house to be in It's not a noble house to be in All righty We also asked twitter To give us the name of this Harry Potter book and uh of the Harry Potter book of this picture And um you guys did not disappoint No, there were some big ones. There were some more. Matthew Niri Harry Potter in the goblet of fireball Think fireball is gonna like that name. All right. We also got uh Harry Potter in the magic house JJ Martinez clearly drawing inspiration from uh Travis's uh new hog warts house the magic house Harry Potter's real house We also got Steven uh galone Harry Potter and the cursed jabronis i like that That's my favorite one so far. Haley crane Harry Potter and the fight for hermy own Not bad right over your head right over it. That's a move move on Um boom and soon harry potter in the masters of the wonderling. Oh, I don't know if we're masters a wonderlick man But uh, I can see that's a fun name to say. We're certainly not Kirk cousins probably is being a Ravenclaw guy. Yeah Um, wasn't it? We didn't know about it. They got public oil like acid didn't he didn't he like I don't know traffic. I know that uh ryan fits patrick. I think got like a perfect score If i'm not mistaken. There you go That's what I meant. I don't know if you if it goes in the abcd Realm so it might have been the wrong one to say but yeah, that's what i was going for Jason They're both white quarterbacks. Yeah, they look alike. Um, we also got harry potter in the tush push by k k mark The tush push yeah Of all of them. I like the cursed jabronis. That's my favorite or the godlit of fireball Actually, i'm lying. I like harry potter in the magic house The magic house Something simple about it now because we love doing these kinds of segments with you guys and somehow Uh, we actually got trab to kind of take part in a harry potter segment which he had no previous knowledge of or any Dude i love that right at that disney world. We also, uh got another one coming up later in this show Uh, but right now we actually got to talk some football first Right, we got a good one actually we got to talk about no that's right Did you post that you what house you got in or is that just something that we know? No, that's just something we know because I felt way too much of a dwee to actually tweet out that i made a profile on harry potter Dot com just to take a test that I had no idea what it was even asking me I was in a whole different world there for about 10 minutes and the words of the great uh morry povich Uh, what did the test results reveal? I don't even know what that reference was And now i'm scared to tell you I was a uh griffin dorth. I was in harry potter's house And there was there was honestly there was nothing to steal it saying there's a lot of people saying there's a lot of people saying You belong in slithering. I immediately called out jason for when he said that he was in griffin or because it's like if you know what House you want to be in you can skew the answers or the test to like be in that house So I think jason kind of skewed his answers. I don't know. I went in blind. I just answered everything honest. I was just clicking on shit I said I wanted to walk through the the the florist path. I was a big force path to yeah I mean we both got in griffin dor. So I think we had a lot of so I think you think all right So anybody that wants to be in griffin dorth just pick force back Well stop giving away the answers, you know, we don't want anybody to get into griffin dor that doesn't belong in griffin dorth It's that's how you fuck up griffin dor Gonna have slitherins all wander in the halls are much worse huffle puffs Already before we keep going we got to talk about one of our partners which one Fireball who fireball takes any events to the next level, especially celebrating a big game That's right. Fireball is iconic cinnamon flavor tastes fire and goes down easy Making it the ultimate crowd pleaser. That's why it's the number one shot in the country jason You know what I like about fireball probably it's cinnamon taste, but what are you gonna tell me? 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That's t.m The bold topics no longer 12 bold talk was because we don't know how many topics we're even talking about any more So let's sprinkle in the recap of all the nfl free agency tabs If that sentence even made sense Yeah, it makes sense to me and we're gonna start with the chiefs The chiefs baby Who did uh, who do we who haven't we talked about yet? The chiefs have officially uh signed from last week uh defense of n Charles Amenahue Sided to your contract with a value of 20 million dollars A year must be a pretty good defense event 20 million dollars. Where was he from? Is that the guy that was in the san fran fran fran? Let's go. Let's go player. You're gonna enjoy that guy. Yeah, we are runs games really well explosive Uh comes inside on third down good place Safety like edwards signed a one-year three million dollar deal to solidify the back end of the chiefs I like it. I like that that pickup is good. Mays ball halker, man He doesn't like solidify like defensive backs that can catch the football and mike is one of them Are you sure there's nothing more frustrating than seeing a guaranteed pick just just drop right through some wisdom I agree. It's somebody right in the chest. I agree Yep Yep, that's how do we get here? Um, yeah, no, uh, I I like that pickup a lot man And obviously, uh, we lost my guy one thorne hill to the uh to the cleven browns, baby He's up in the he's in the he's in the homeland, baby He's gonna live on the west side of the east side all those guys live on the west They're all west side guys. You already know if we if we ever went back to cleven would be eastiders for life But uh, yeah, I respect it. I respect there's no free ways Well, well, what? Can't get anywhere fast. So I get it One isn't the only guys you guys lost you guys lost quite a bit and you widely signed with the commanders my guy Four million dollar deal big drew I love that. I love that angel man. We're gonna miss him a lot Colin sontas another dude that I absolutely love these are like locker room favorites, man Like it's gonna be interesting. This is the hard part when you're a good team. Uh, you realize that a lot of these players are gonna get picked up Uh, whenever you've done well and win the shoot bowl usually means you played pretty well. Um, yep That's usually all those guys in the locker rooms. So big Yeah, sir, binky is gone agreed to a three-year deal worth up to 14 and a half with the saints deserves every bit of it Man the big one obviously is uh orlando brown Four year 64 million dollar contracts that includes 31 million signing with it's things The bangles. Oh, it's dang. He's officially He's officially in slithering. I How do you feel about this it hurts hurts my soul man. I hear my soul. It's like watching your best friend just Turn evil on you. Yeah, it's kind of how we felt when javon sign with the 49ers Uh last week. Yeah, that's tough man. He um obviously I mean the past like two years We've struggled beating the bangles. So there's been a lot of like build up and emotion of like I would say Not necessarily hate but just like dislike towards the bangles because sure they keep eating us They keep talking about every time they do So it's like man To see him go to the dark side man. It's uh, it's an awkward feeling obviously Hope that he has a absolute hall of fame career. You know what I mean? Which nothing but the best for ob he was an unbelievable leader an unbelievable teammate on and off the field We got countless memories that i'll fucking cherish. Um, but obviously uh him going to the dark side His own and popping ob Do you think the mayor helped to recruit him? I don't I have no idea if the mayor does he even steal the mayor? I thought he resigned. Um, and then we lost joo-joo smish shuster to New england patreon, which was that hurt man Another guy that came in was really the leader of that wide receiver group for us last year To be the first year be a first year guy on the team and to kind of you know Take the take the group and and really just set the tone for work ethic and uh and and attention to detail and things like that for a Lot of the young guys can't say enough about what joo-joo was for us last year And i'm sure he's just gonna transition that over to new england and help new england be a better team man without a doubt Happy uh happy got paid you can't hate You know, I mean you can't help but uh, but appreciate guys that you love go out and get paid man And uh all the guys that you just listed right there andrew wily colin sonders Want thorne hill or lana brown joo-joo all those guys man. I love to see those guys get paid man Yeah, I mean, what do you think uh, do you think he introduced his bellow check to tick tock finally big tick tock guy? I don't know. It sounds like a fun challenge though. Dude joo-joo you gotta get you gotta get bill on a tick tock man Just do a quick one just do a quick one. He doesn't even know he's on it. You know what i mean? 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Um, no, no. Yeah, I don't know He still wants him there, but either way, uh marcus is uh, I mean he sent me home in the playoffs one time He's a great quarterback. I think it's a fun pickup for you guys I think he's a guy that you know can come in and uh and win you guys ballgames if needed and um and run at jaylin hurt style offense Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing is obviously he's had a lot of success in the league Uh former top pick overall and he you know, he's can do the read option. He did it all in college That's why chip was Rumored to be interested in him if not for sure interested him in 2015 You know, he'll be able to do some things that that we'd like to do with jaylin hurts And uh won't have to completely change things up. So, um, you're excited to see and meet marcus mayard I've never met them. So yeah, me neither I don't think uh, I might have just dapped him up one time in the pro bowl Fletcher cocks resigns, which was a huge uh got a bring back Obviously big-time leader and a legend in the city of philadelphia Uh for a 10 we're waiting for one million One one one year 10 million dollars worth every frickin penny Uh, fledged weight in on uh on our next seerion me interview actually That's right. Yeah, he tweeted in quotes. It be your own people In response to the clip of seerion he's saying he lied about uh putting in cocks the qpc Sometimes, you know, you just gotta Gotta give guys energy and uh let him down easy. Well, that ain't right Well, that ain't right But it's uh definitely good always good to have a guy like fledged your cocks on the frickin roster man That dude's a beast But guys got uh got a few cornerbacks Greedy williams agree to one year contract James bradbury who agreed to come back for three years and so did dairiest sleigh big play sleigh Big pay Pay After pump faking everybody all right Yeah, i'll see y'all later On twitter i thought he was gone Sign deal What's up y'all? I'm in this thing For $42 million with 23 million guaranteed got a nice little payday for the next three years, brother Congrats man big obviously big fan of sleigh came in the same year man hold it down for two show 2013 baby He actually he he did tweet goodbye to philly before resounding, which is always i'm aware It's always fun. Yeah, I thought it was over. I mean the whole entire world did and then sleigh just slid back right into it That sleigh slide right back in there. Oh would i say that? What Jennifer sleigh tweeted that you were her favorite eagle outside of Darius that's very nice I think that that is only because i'm married to kylie because kylie and jennifer of uh at least on kylie side She loves uh jennifer and uh so i feel like this is 100 just kylie Yeah, well, i mean you get you get attached to people and you start cheering for Yeah, hood out so it's going um, but you guys have officially uh say goodbye to a few guys And that's always the hard part uh zach pascal uh signed a two-year deal with the cardinals uh isek Paschal uh isek sei o malu. Yeah, this is this is a one of her. It's obviously our old line room Um, you know isek's been here for a long time Ever since 2016 Season so you know yeah side of three year 24 million dollar contract with the Steelers back with Andy widal who's In that front office now, you know, I think it just hurts when you when you lose a guy that you know is a really really good player Such an important piece to your room and just a great friend, you know, I think uh Steel is getting a bargain man. This dude is an unbelievable player. Um, i'm happy that he's getting paid Um But man, this guy can do everything you do center guard Uh, you guys are really really gonna enjoy having Isaac sei o malu up there in pittsburgh That's a huge chest pieces at the old line man. You can move guys anywhere. Yeah, it's big time but um, well, he's He's a pretty darn good guard. So One of the best in the league surprised but you know One more power till you eyes. I go ahead and and enjoy pittsburgh man. Have some uh What's in pittsburgh you get go and get some uh Permani brothers pomani brothers. There you go. Go get some pomani brothers, baby Miles sonders agree to a four-year deal uh to the uh cult right he's over there with our guy fring right Can you pronounce one of my teammates names right after this is an asana? Passcode Isaac sei o malu Miles sanders it's sanders. Do you watch any of our games sanders sanders? You just get them to confuse the car and the one kelsey kelse. It's all the same and All right. I'm sorry miles if i've been saying our name around this Big fan. I really am All right, so yeah is with the panthers school miles, um No excited for miles. Um, you know, he's a big part of our offense. Obviously Um, you know, I think that you know, here's a guy that whenever we called his number he showed up And I'm just excited for him to get an opportunity and get paid. He's an unbelievable player Did you hear that did I how can you not hear that? It's amazing. This comes out of nowhere. Just like i Sorry, why it's all right. Okay. Keep going. All right. So uh lion beker kizir white Did I say that one wrong? No, you nailed that one nice knew it Signing a two-year deal with the cardinals getting out there. So you guys lost two safeties two linebackers. So you guys kept your corners and lost two safeties who we were getting to next Marcus eps and uh cj gurner johnson cj gurner johnson um both of them uh eps went to the raiders came into our division so it'll be a challenge going up against him uh twice a year and then um yeah gurner johnson went to the lions with a uh an interesting scenario Yeah, this is the hot topic right now in philadelphia obviously uh resigned james bradbury uh darius sleigh And uh gurner johnson unfortunately walks and fletry cox b sign fletch too. Yeah, so you know cj unbelievable really really good young player um You know sign a eight million dollar deal with the lions um Okay, it's agent tweeted the terms that they were negotiating with the eagles which is i thought very odd I don't think i've ever really seen um an agent tweet out Contract negotiations, especially ones that weren't agreed to like is a is a kind of a I don't know. Just never seen that move done. Hmm. He was he trying to clear the air like yo like I I mean obviously eagles fans are upset that we didn't resign cj and um There was leak that uh the the terms that he turned down was a three-year 24 million dollar deal which if you do the math on that it's eight per year But I think what it doesn't say is um He kind of said that it was like all back loaded like 17 million a year three He just wanted to say basically I didn't screw up this contract negotiation, which um, you know I don't know if you did it in I know that cj's worth a lot more than eight million dollars a year um as a player dudes a baller um But there's a lot of things that have to fall in place. Um Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I really know what else I want to say on it good luck to cj dog That's that's it's best. That's the best you could put it. I hate to see you know situations kind of Unfold like they did if that's the you know, if that's really the case But like you said he's a great football player and uh, he's going up into detroit where they got a great team of Detroit and flies around so I mean he's not going to a bad scenario No, he's going to a great scenario and they got better this off seasons. I mean detroit, um Was really really good at the end of the year. Yeah Dan Campbell baby by nikat pretty dang good note, you know, I think uh There is a very bright future up there in detroit And uh, you guys just got an unbelievable player there for a steal if you just look at his playing ability No question about it. So free free agency questions Is uh having an agent versus a player repping themselves when it comes to free agency? What is there like a do you have any like opinions on which one's better or if it's silly to just kind of play or rep? I think most people should definitely have an agent without your you'd be almost dove into player rebin. I did I early on when I was redoing my first contract. I was thinking about trying to do it myself Talk to my agent really to fire them and um We came to an agreement um and man, it's the best thing I ever did because uh, they got me more money than I thought I was going to get and um Yeah, you would have definitely settled for last. You would definitely settle for a Thank you over the first offer and I was like, all right, let's sign this puppy and then they were like Jason We can get more out of this. You don't sign the first off first silly. You don't That's what i've been doing. I see That's a lot of money. I would take that very i'll take that as fast as possible Can I sign that now before it's off the table? I think it's beneficial for most players to to have an agent now There are some guys that are doing it without an agent shout out to uh, larry me tonsil who's Signing great contracts by himself. That a boy. Uh, I mean just very impressive Uh, but I think it's beneficial for a number of reasons one is Hopefully they oversee the deal. Uh, they have connections there. They know what you're worth like all of these things Uh, but then also it's nice to just have a buffer between you and the team So that you know the the business side can remain like kind of separate from you. You know, I mean you already know Somebody comes to me like hey, you know, what why haven't you responded to the what i'm like, man I don't have nothing to do with that. That's my man jb's handling that. I'm just here to play football I'm just here so I don't get fired Uh, so I think um, you know, I do think it's important for most guys now. I do think they should make the agent process Uh harder to get I think there's a lot of bad agents. I really do Uh, I think a lot of guys get misinformed. Um, I think free agency is hard to navigate in general Because there's a lot of competition You know usually there's like a top tier guys that every team is going to go after That is in need of that position and has the cap too And then you know after that, you know money kind of dries up quick and um You know, a lot of guys end up signing deals in the free in the market um That quite frankly, I think is below what they should be at and um I think a lot of that sometimes comes down to the agent just misinformed them Or trying to drag it out and then all of a sudden you just don't have an option and I think that happens across The league to a lot of guys quite frankly. I think they should make it much more difficult to get an agent's license and certification I think there's a lot of bad agents Um across the nfl. I think there's a lot of misinformed players Uh guys sign bad contracts. I mean it The numbers that are released Don't tell the whole story which is one of the things that I can't stand like oh if you believe they signed that guy for that And I'm like dude You don't that might not be that that could be half of that you have no idea what the terms of this needle are Um, I cannot and an agents will tell the team to release you got to release the high number I need my guy needs to be a top three guys so that they can go recruit more guys. I'm like There is way too much um Honestly Bull crap on the on the side of agents and um and things that are released in the media uh just the artificially Inflate things and um And it's misleading It's misleading to players. I in my opinion the nfl pa should do more about this I think nfl pda pa does a great job in general. I'm not here to cross the nfl pa I think that they should be making it Uh making the agent process much more difficult and uh getting better uh representatives We'd out the bad ones man. Yeah, man Not waiting to meet out the bad ones too many guys and I think are not represented well And on top of that if there is a situation like I want to get layering me on here And let's talk about what his situation is you know, that is a great point I would love to know how he's trusting it because there's no way I can trust myself to look over a contract or anything like that So there's got to be some type of legal team that he is teaming up with Yeah, what he probably does he pays a lawyer Uh or a law firm and a a certain law Hourly rate or whatever it is to look over the contract and make sure everything's dotted Uh, I would bet Um, but I think it does help when you're like the best tackle in the nfl And you're gonna make top down. Everybody wants you. Yeah. Yeah, I mean He he's able to You know, he's got a big hammer there being as good as he is. Do you find out? Uh, what's going on in the eagles organization As that is like it comes across through like adam chef and everybody or do you kind of know like ahead of hand Sometimes uh, you find out over the media actually the majority of the time you find out Uh over media I would say, um, and then I think sometimes though there's some moves that happen Uh, that throughout the week you've kind of heard rumblings of or you know, it's been leading to that direction You've heard going into free agency. Um, you've heard through the grapevine that you know, we're interested in this guy or this guy Uh, who is it? And then when it happens, you're like, oh, that doesn't give us an example give us an example Uh, I don't wanna how to want to do that. Um, I think sometimes you know sometimes you don't know. I mean the team doesn't know so you can't know everything I mean these things are happening You know on a deal by deal basis, you know, they might go want one guy then all of a sudden He's gone and it's on to the next one and you don't have a clue what's happening. So yeah It's just kind of similar to the draft a little bit, but you have even less control than the draft Yeah, unless I have like a random conversation with somebody who's in a situation like that And they just kind of spill the beans on where everything is or if I just randomly like hit up breath each every single day And the off season to figure out what we're doing with the chiefs. Um, he'll sometimes tell me I'll tell you what is a good way to know Who you're kind of targeting him free agency is if they ask or if you Kind of get told that they're interested in a guy and uh you kind of help with the recruiting process Yeah, like I'll never forget when uh, you know, Jeff Stoughlin Told me that they were interested in getting Brandon Brooks. I'm like dude. Please get this dude here He would be so beneficial. He's an unbelievable player big strong fast So I made sure i'm texting Brandon Brooks throughout free agency nice and he and he came so okay I don't I think he was probably the money, but you know It's nice to let somebody know you want to play with him and I definitely want to play with him for sure Yeah, no, I remember I remember it was like 2015 16 somewhere around there and uh, there was a Rodney hudson our center had just went to uh, oakland and there was big question like man Where were we gonna go with the centers? I'm like man I went up to john dorsey who's our GM at the time was like john. I know i know a center He's he might be tied up on me right now But I know a center if you want to go get him you and I think you'd fit in perfectly You tried to get the chiefs to trade for me? 1000 every year. Well, not now now he has got creed humphery. Yeah, no, we don't need to know but before Before creed and honestly before mitch morris, but it was uh, yeah There was there was a one point in time where I think there actually was a caller a conversation and didn't go very far I almost that almost happened. Is that what you're telling me? No All right, it was a call that that never came close But I was I did I mean that was about as far as me trying to recruit Jason kelsey gone Um, but yeah, I feel like the free agent I mean you gotta be able to talk to somebody or call somebody and uh and have a conversation whether make them feel comfortable About where they're signing and stuff like that. That's that just goes with being a good teammate Reaching out to guys and that that have just signed or you know, I mean all that is just make it sure you Set the tone for the chemistry when everybody walks in the building man For sure for sure. I'll tell you what I'm not good with those. I'm not good with goodbyes I gotta text some of these guys. We lost a lot of great players With the field of these guys. That's the hardest They've been important people to our organization Um, so, you know, I think uh, yeah, just it sucks. That's a that's the sad part about free agency is uh, it's sad and happy You're happy guys are getting paid. You're happy guys are doing well But obviously, you know, you don't want to lose any teammates You you kind of want to play these guys forever and it just doesn't happen. Yeah, I'm with you brother Most interesting part of free agency to use so far. What was the most interesting one? We got maybe To the jets. Yeah, I think the roger situation with the jets and packers. That's the most interesting one to me Yes, that's pretty good. That's gonna go down another hall of fame quarterback in the AFC. You gotta love it Uh zee released by dallas. Um, yeah, man That's last last last play he ever had in a dallas uniform is That's a hard one. We're all right there. Jalen ramsi to the dolphins I mean, that was that was interesting because they they're only a year away from that super bowl and that defense looked like they were A stellar top tier defense. I think bobby wagner left Jalen ramsi leaves The only one left now is erin donald and he's talking about he's said on camera He said he doesn't really need football anymore. So it's got to make sense for him to play Um, I think one that isn't really on here But I think it should be is the chicago bears panther's trade Uh for dz more in the first I think chicago's low key this offseason. They're making some moves They're signing some good players that gm came from kc Yeah, well, yeah, he's doing some good things and they got some really good draft Exactly as well as they've given fields They've given field some tools now to be successful was on offense So I really think that they've made a lot of good moves and it also kind of tells you what you know They're gonna do in carolina. You know frank right down there. I guarantee Uh former quarterback rights in carolina We just talked Yeah I think that'll be interesting scenario obviously dair card of the saints. I I mean shut out to the saints for giving him another chance Man, I I think he I think he got a bad rap and Stads vegas You look at the stats to be one of the best quarter bench over a decade He's my base I base football off of guys that can just in time make decisions that change the exact anything is going on So me and daira are playing in pro ball out in hawaii together and By the end by the end of the first quarter really the middle of the second quarter The defense that you're playing has seen every single player that you got Unless you have like a trick play in your back pocket that you want to fucking pull out at some point that you just have So it's like you got to start improvving if you want to make something shake so i'm telling Uh daira car that i'm gonna all right. I'm gonna run this route. I'm gonna run that route And I I think I had like 180 yards and two touchdowns Is this the one daira car get you that kia? No, he did That was got you that kia and he dalmed it and that was Andy dalton stance Another buns stat of like three catches for 36 yards and a touchdown got me a free car But daira car got me uh the most yards that I ever had in a uh in a pro ball I will say I don't do two tuddies and he was just not really No, I was supposed to run a corner. I told him about to run a corner post And he was like all right deal and he threw that thing right on the money right on time tuddy I will say I don't know much about what happened in uh with the Raiders and daira car He had a lot of good numbers Everybody i've talked to that's played with the guy has good things to say about him offensive lineman skill players So, you know, hopefully it works out in New Orleans They got a pretty good team surrounding them too That team really what they're missing was a quarterback They've their defense was has been and still is a very very solid defense um Offensively, uh, you know, they've they've struggled to move on after drew gree's so yeah Hopefully daira car can be the answer. Well, I mean daira car's got to battle it out. James Winston Fainish james james james james was playing good before he got hurt right? Yeah, and he's he's thrown like 30 touchdowns at 30 interceptions in one season. It's crazy Yeah, no, that's not a good one-to-one ratio is bad though, right? All right, listen paid man. He did it Let's move on to free agency rumors Let's get to what everyone wants to hear about jason What we know about the free agency rumors and um, we got a big one in the eagles rumors you guys just brought in Texas running back the number one kind of rated running back Be john robin said Yes, sir. I was actually lifting this morning saw him in the building met him. Nice. Let me tell you looks the part Ooh looking pretty good. Listen, that's half of the you can pass the eye test You got a chance first test I test right now doesn't mean anything. Absolutely amazing. Absolutely nothing. No, I mean, I think that means we're drafted. All right That's what that means. That's not that's we're bringing it Why would we bring him into the building for now draft because you bring in everyone? You're gonna bring it probably the top five running backs if you bring it in running backs So um, this is a part of the draft process They they bring in all of the draftees not necessarily all of them But you got 30 up to 30 team visits that you can go on as a drafty And uh, you kind of pick and choose the ones that you know fit your Your skill set the best I would assume or give you the best chance to get the highest draft pick That's adorable. You had 30 choices You get the teams get 30. Oh the teams get 30 see this this news me you want to start this over I Think so the teams get 30 guys to bring in and they brought in b john robinson nice You guys are definitely drafting him first round. Yeah, that's what that means 100 Um, it also could mean something else because the san francisco 49ers brought me in on a team visit And I remember jim harbal coming up in the draft excitement No They came they came up to me pumped up a lot of energy shook his hand. We talked about some ukleb beach Uh in his your early years going to cleveland for the summers harbal jim harbal Oh, yeah, the him and john harbal used to go up to ukleb beach in the summers Man, he was cool talking a little cleveland talk with him But he uh, the first thing he did was shake my hand grab my arm It kind of sized me up looking me up and down did not pass the eye test Because who did they draft vance mcdonald who 1000 percent passed the eye test Um, it's good. I test guys. It's a good idea. If I get a plus I test a plus Plus plus the guy was a freaking nature man. He's absolute beast. Um, and then um, yeah, where else where else do you have any fun? I went two places. I think well three. I went to st. Louis, kansas city and then the philadelphia Eagles are my last stop. It was very late in the process I went to capital grill with h Howard mud and you jin chung And I was like what is this crazy offensive line coach h Howard mud He's a very unique person to say the least And uh, I knew that he had coached chef saturday for years who obviously was one of the guys that I looked up to As a as an undersized center coming out of college. I thought it went good. It felt like it went well Well, it did because they ended up drafting you they did yeah met andy first time Did he was it was a stash bright red then or was it kind of like starting to change a little bit? It was big red Be a big rear All right now, um, I got I got another good one I I got but the other harbal went to the ravens the ravens asked me to come in I go to the ravens facility I'm meeting everybody. I meet harbal. We're talking about ukleid beach again and harbal brothers. Just love talking to you No, we had some good convos. We had some good convos and it was uh, they were awesome They were just awesome guys. Obviously john was also at a university of Cincinnati as well He stopped through there, but uh, I I met one of the guys that I had I want to say idolized. I just always looked up to because uncle don our uncle Uh, who who also played college ball? Um, yeah, he was up in kleil maker and ran into a azzie newson or went to a signing That azzie newson was at and azzie newson at the time was the gm of the uh, baltimore ravens and um He went to the signing when azzie was playing for cleveland so obviously a hall of fame a cleaving browns tight end and he uh He got a say he got a picture signed to the kelsey boys with azzie newson's signature on as him dunking on somebody in the end zone and Um, man. I was excited to meet azzie and tell him you know what i mean like dude I'm a clealy kid. I like such a big thing. I saw you This is like I see this picture in my mind when I think azzie news i'm just being Stud and um, I walk into the room and it was immediately sit down I sit down. That's damn strong. I like this you Hits the clicker on the tv and it's like six plays in a row of just personal file penalties You had a bunch of college Dude, I had way more but it was it was at least one a game And uh, he went through it and he he paused it after after the fifth one just paused it put the Put the remote down and just looked at me. He's like son Are you an asshole? I just looked and i was like Well, after you just played all those clips Uh, I don't want to like Clearly you know, I'm a you know exactly what i'm about I'm like do I need to clean that up. Yeah, I need to clean that up. It's a 15-yard penalty, but I I'm a good dude. I promise i'm a good dude. I'm not hard to work with i'm a teen guy I just play a little bit of fire that I need to control sometimes And um, yeah, he was just kind of staring. He's like, yeah, man. We don't need assholes I was just like well noted And um, yeah, that was uh, that was something that I had to work on was those personal file penalties still had a few in my earlier years Hopefully I don't have any more Um, uh kind of had one already last year, but we're moving on. We're moving you know what I mean? We're doing better uh, another fun one one real quick. I went to uh, the At the time Washington red skin is now the washington commanders Mike shanahan walked into that room not knowing a single thing about anybody so I walk in I meet Mike shanahan. All right I meet the offensive coordinator ciao shanahan and obviously mic shanahan big denver broncos legend Right one one all those super bowls with elboy Yep, and I um, I'm meeting all these guys meet ciao shanahan as the oceum I oh man, i'm nice to meet you man. That guy was that guy was electric. You seem really smart And then I go in and I meet the uh, the tight end coach and it's Sean mcveigh. I'm just like damn man This dude has a lot of energy man That dude was really fun to talk to about football man And he seemed really excited about getting better And then uh, and then like i'm passing everyone in the hallways They knock on the door introduced me to uh matt left lure I'm like dang man matt lee he seemed like he was like fun to work with too like man These dudes are all like young it's a good crew like a good energy and then I go and meet the don was mike shanahan and he's talking to me about how uh The tests that they just put me through um that I scored high very high on like the uh problem solving tests There was like this like puzzle Uh like the therapist sat in front of me or a psychiatrist. I should say one of those I don't know which one's right either. Yeah, uh Put like puzzles in front of me and asked me to like decipher him or like figure him out and uh and tell me why And it was just like I was going through all of this and it didn't it didn't last very long but when I got out of when I went into uh mike shanahan's office he told me is like I Was one of the highest graded on those and I was just wrong. I was like, oh man. That's gotta be a good thing Right Yeah Problem solved man. It sounds great. I'm good at getting out of problems. Does that mean I have a lot of problems Like in my head i'm like Experienced on the getting out of it. Yeah, I don't know there's a good thing screw it either way They uh they drafted uh jordan reed who's a dog for quite a bit of time was a dog. Yeah. Yeah, he was a dog They draft him after you got drafted though correct very very very true Yeah, that was a fun little fun little kind of tour I went on though, man Had a fun time kicking it with rex ryan. I went on a lot of interviews because I had a red flag and they wanted to They were like we got a we got an interview that's got a check out He has good film good film very Interested in what this guy has been doing though. Yeah, we also got some cheese rumors That's right. Chief's rumors patchick my homes has mysteriously well, not mysteriously Very subtly liking some tweets about diange d'andry hopkins and odele beckham jr Now right now Our atna one is from the new chief uh charles amenahube Uh that says diange d'andry hopkins Come on fam. We waiting on you chief's kingdom. Okay. He liked that. I like that pound Yeah, the pond decided like you were part of chief's kingdom. I like that. Um, yeah I mean I've not had you cannot go wrong with a guy like d hop I do know that he is with the cardinals. So that might be tampering. I'm not sure what uh is Qualified under I mean just like in a tweet. I don't think that's tamperin just like in a tweet. All right. Never mind um, well, no, I think uh our guy tweeted it, but uh Either way, um I Yeah, yeah, it's definitely tamperin All right The other is from uh That says I want to be surprised of odele or dehop go to the chiefs I want to be surprised that both guys go to the chiefs Um Boom double down there with the second part of the tweet then we got we got some dogs in the receiver room right now though That's the thing we that died like I get it odele Dehop Top tier guys top tier guys praniel You guys got all that money left to spend on receivers, right? What money? Um Yeah, we uh, we don't have very much. I don't think I actually I don't know where our cap is right now And how close we are to it. Have you liked any of their tweets? I'm not big on twitter I'm not very big on twitter, but uh what I do go on twitter I will like a tweet if it's not tampering. I don't think liking a tweet is tampered good point Tweeting a tweet could be perceived as tamperin. Well here. I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this is what bread vietz told me He said that um I'm not gonna stay the fuck out of my way Don't fucking call me anymore about this Travis stop calling me Right sounds good. I don't want your brother Oh, no. No. No, yeah, he looks good. He looks good. He looks good. He'll somebody keep I think you do is just a sit when you keep Travis out of my office for the next couple weeks All right players as we've reached the segment where we have moved beyond football in some ways Oh, this is a new segment. Nice. It is players as is a new segment. We obviously did the hogwarts houses last week Uh this week in honor of rissa del porto on twitter I think I got that All right, um since y'all did hogwarts houses. Can you please do nfo players as pokemon? Yes rissa Pokemon Listen, man. Do you remember the pokemon days? I do I remember uh, man. We were so my game my game boy I had the blue and the red one beat both of those games. I think there was another there's like a gold one at some point Uh, yeah, that was like only pikachu or something like that. I did them all Anything on the game boy. I did. I haven't done it since well actually I had to take that back I also did pokemon snap on a 10 to 64 Got all those pokemon so i've been catching them all for a long time. Travis are you a big pokemon guy? I already knew the answer to this. Yeah, no, I was I mean I wasn't about it I was about it because you know, I mean it was our childhood but other than that I haven't I haven't really kept up with too much pokemon since our child who was who was your starter in pokemon? Who's my starter if I could get a charizard man? I'm in charizard you don't start with charizard charizard is the end product You get three choices you get charmander bulbous or squirtle those original choices Charm-charmulians another again. That's down the road. Can you go straight to charmillion? You got to start off with the uh Adolescent years you got to start off with the charmander charmander So you're a big fire guy big fire guy I think charmander was the first one I chose to something more something about fire is just more intimidating than water and it was like a dinosaur Well, they're all that I mean balsa definitely is kind of dinosaurish. Yeah, but he's not a fun one He's like kind of like uh, what is what was the bulbous? Sores? Bulbasaur was kind of like your leaf eating. It's like a vegetarian. That's why I think I always went for the charmander charmander seemed like a carnivore Yeah, um man knows really and squirtle. I mean, it's just hard to get I in hindsight I like squirtle a lot, but when you first start the game Squirtle is not a good to hear the name squirtle and you're just like I'm not impressed. Yeah. Yeah, so what we're gonna maybe they should have But you got a super soaker kid real real original water Pokemon named squirtle. All right. Here we go We're gonna get to the players as okay. I guess we'll get to me and you last let's save us Um the first one. I think this one's pretty obvious. We got aj brown Oh, that's the easy one. Yeah, I think uh, I think we're gonna go with choke. My choke on aj brown He is a absolute he looks on me. It's a g brown right there. I think this one's pretty self-explanatory That's swole batman's ripped Swole batman's ripped and uh, yeah, yeah, no, that's that's one of these looks like the other Hg brown. I hope the these the NFL guys that were listening nobody takes offense to this because This is our producer. This is all our producers. We had nothing to do with this I'm I'm something to do with it. I Yeah, no, they already got rid of mine. All right Larry me tonsil. Um, this might be my favorite one is uh, as Of course coughing This one not so much for looks or temperament. It's more just um I think it's In reference to his iconic draft a video that really ruined his entire draft stock which is he's killing now though He's killing me. He's one of the best tackles in the NFL. He's making 24 million dollars a year. Whatever it is. Yeah, he's doing all right Um, so yeah, Larry me tonsil coughing the gas mask, baby lock it in tarry kill What are you going who are you going tarry kill? I'm going pikachu. He is the most electric player in the national football league. You can't say anything Wrong about the guy. He is Small version of the most electric player and I think that's pikachu in a in a nutshell And honestly pikachu pokémon. I always thought pikachu was the super was like that the main character Yeah, well you're you're not I mean in the in the show use the main character Um, I think pikachu always got the most amount of love and then there's obviously the one game where you had to play with him So I think you know pikachu is for sure the iconic Character when you think of pokémon lightning and um and when you're playing with super smash brothers, you know, he would do that You know you would do that little maneuver that Uh, and that reminds me tarry kill so I think that's a good. I think that's a good comp. Thank you I knew one guys. I knew one brady You got to go with the best pokémon of all time the most powerful one Mute you too. Mute. That's right dude. That looks like him right there in you see it. Yep And see it almost in the cheekbones very very brady. That's Um, that's just I actually have a pair of brady underwears in that purple color right there I got my tom brady's. I'm trying to be great out here dog. All right, andy reed Andy reed um, I don't know. I don't know this one. This one's name is alakazam. Look at that moustache looks just like big reed Big red right there with a moustache We need to change them red. We need to just change them from yellow to red and then Let's see if we can get on that team. That's uh, we're gonna make a red alakazam Either that is just a red moustache. That's pretty good right there. Yeah, i'll be accurate um Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence. Who we got? Um, I think you're gonna like this one Uh, I don't know if you know who this pokemon is. We got jinx Look at that stop it I mean, it's the hair. It's the hair. It's fucked up, but it is 100% the hair George kiddles also got a picture that works really well for jinx. He's got the locks. He's got the locks for sure So i hate this and Trevor, but i hope you don't take offense to it, but Justin herbert Jolteon I mean this is okay chargers. Yeah, that's the only reason this evening. Yeah, so I see it. Yeah. All right cool electric pokemon for an electric player who plays for the bolts Who's dirt when james then if he's if he's the elect who he's a charger is there another charger pokemon? I feel like there's a bunch of electronic pokie electric pokemon, but I think uh The one that sums up dermond james attitude the most is poly wrath looking if it just looks like a bully what He hits you so hard that you start seeing that little spirals You have power and then you're like what's going on You're doing like this. Derwin james is a bully because he powerbombed me. It's fucking hard He doesn't have to more than just you he's uh, he plays like a bully no doubt um Antonio brown AB AB League anyway who we got we got gyrodose. I don't know. That's how you pronounce it. That's how I always say it. I don't get it Well, um gyrodose is well known for its fierce temper and reputation for causing nothing but destruction Because I think you see a pattern And then of course, uh gyrodose's iconic move is pool where I think we all saw Antonio brown whip out his gyrodose in that pool that one day All righty, that's it. That's all we got. I don't know there's nothing else. We really got no no no We gotta get we gotta get me and you oh yeah. Yeah me and Travis Um Do you want to do me? Yeah, I'll do you you're you're the uh the snorin one You're the fat one. Yeah, the fat one of course Snorlax was one of my favorite characters. I idolized snorlax as a refusal to get out of the house growing up. He just was not a big mover and uh I've really been a big fan for a long time snorlax. So I will gladly be snorlax Um tramp our entire childhood growing up My my entire childhood you'd never realized this because you were asleep and you were a part of the snoring You snored mom snored dad snored every yes, you did no I didn't I know for a fact you did I listened to you. It was like a choir at night. Everybody had their own toes. There was only one person You and I both know there was only one person that was bringing the house down and that's mom She was up on the third floor and if we didn't close the little door that went up to the third floor You weren't sleeping she was I mean Wall rattling snores was mama kelsey. No, it was uh, it was wild. It was wild. And we know now she has sleep And yeah, I didn't even know what that was at the time. Her aunt dad And then turns out everybody's got sleep apnea in the family other than trav. Yeah, well and I've been tested and they said you don't but else I'll snore which I think means you do So who knows? Who am I which pokemon am I? Trab um you're a tough one because uh you're too handsome to really compare to a lot of pokemon Uh, but I think so I I tried to go the flanking route like what which pokemon is the most deceptive and and the most trickery because you're you're a man of tricks Uh, so I went with mr. mind. I think it's a great pokemon. I think it really suits you Um, you know, he's he has the he has the ability to fit in really with any crowd Uh very good Uh at copying people Uh and taking dance moves and just watching them and then doing So I'm going to smile. I just been a mind my whole life man. I just been running routes like receivers and acting like Yeah, no, I don't know. I guess uh, I mean that's that's I mean what that is is that's a game day fit right there That is a game day fit That looks like a game day fit made by like some Italian designer that was trying to Change uh the way we look at fashion He looks like a mixture of like, uh, panochio and I don't know some evil spirit. So What designer would that be would that be? Uh, uh, money That looks like a s'marnie Marnie Marnie I could see Marnie getting Getting crazy with it. Yeah You need I could see that That's pretty good though. The mind the ultimate flagger. I'm just I'm just creating an illusion in front of you Creating illusion. This is kind of be the least creative pokemon Right It's a totally one with like a very good name there It's like all right mr. Mime All right. We're running out of we got a hundred and forty nine these suckers. Where do we get the hundred and fifty from? Uh I saw mine on the street today and I thought it might work out of the pokemon That's pretty good very odd to just have one human on there and it's a mime. Well, that's fun No, it's fun players as let us know what you guys think of it. Um, if you guys have any other pokemon, uh That you think being Jason would be better suited with uh, please let us know and um, yeah Keep shooting us with uh these players as we like this segment. It's a fun segment for it Yeah, or or if you have a better name for this segment because players as seems a little off So if you can think of a better name, we'll take that too. Um, all right We're gonna get to the rich eyes and interview the reason everyone is here listening to this episode my guy Once again, the rich and eyes and interview is brought to you by Accelerator energy drink and we're drinking the same one today. All right, then go what do you think? Dude, I drink one. Do I think I drink a limeade one The other the other day Dude, it was really good. Yeah, I don't know what the flavor was but it was cherry limeade. That's it cherry limeade I know that was a good one back in my hand berry lemonade Uh, what else we got a peach paradise is another good one. Um, yeah, there's uh, there's a few good ones Down your big energy drinks. Yeah, all right. These things drink them every day. Yeah, Trev. You're about to watch One of the godfathers of sports center school me when it comes to interviews Uh, so uh, yeah without further ado. Here's the rich eyes in the interview rich and reappear The cameras now actually on all the cameras are now on That's how I could tell we're rolling that you're full of shit That's how I can tell we're rolling but it's good to see it. It's a pleasure. Thank you so much Same here. Our guest is uh one of the guys who made sports center. Um, he is also Uh, the first on air talent for nfl network. That's true. The first man. I believe to run a 40 and wing tip Stress shoes. Yes. Yes. Yes lace ups and your crocs not to be i'm sorry specific I'm you know what it's so difficult to not be a control free And be in the answer as opposed to the question you drive the segment i'll be quiet So first of all, it's I would much prefer that you take a second mention i introduce myself. Yes. He's a great guy He's a great guy His name's rich eyes and here on new heights. By the way congrats on this pod. Thank you so much It's been uh, it's been fun starting it. I've talked to trab more than i've talked to him our entire careers That's cool. So it's it's been fun to kind of I mean between the pod and then a shoot ball with the family which you're kind of enough to do it my folks We've been closer as a family than ever before. How great is that? Yeah, that is great. Yeah And it was great having your folks on my show. Yeah. Yeah, so i've had ed had Donna I've had Travis and um here. I am on yours first. That's that is what we would call An upset like I didn't I didn't see that one coming. Yeah, so I guess this kind of leads into a topic I did want to ask okay. Okay. What do you think of the athlete Podcasts that are out now as as someone who is a professional Journalism yes has been yes, you've seen the evolution of media. Okay. What do you think about because they're only going to get more Right sure like that was the success of them. They're going to be popping up. It's great Look, I mean when the NFL network started 20 years ago By the way, the the first show is called nfl total access, which is still tall that name But they called it that for a reason because fans Want access more than ever before yeah And so I took the approach for my job like i'm kind of Going to be in the middle of what nfl network is going to be and how it might evolve and become That i'm going to take the fan and put him in my shoes like the fly in the wall all that yeah conversation so um Fans can't get enough of Inside real talk and so you and your brother are providing that here Um, if you're talking about the other athlete podcast like Brandon marshals and the pivot and rest of what i'm seeing out there This is real talk like you're getting real conversation Um, you know part of the conversation Um at the super bowl was about your teammate, you know and and you know james and brad berry before the game and what You know, I guess debo referred to him not to stir anything up here on your heights But you know, but that that's the sort of real talk you'll sometimes get out of these podcasts and i i think it's great I think it's great and i think it's great that You know you have a platform and you can come on here and control your own Controll the narrative you are correct like that's what this day and age is about like you don't need to like i need a press conference No, you need a podcast, you know, so i think i think it's great i really do Awesome. Yeah, that was one of the reasons we started honestly was first of all seen some other guys had some success and You're a little we were certainly nervous of you know If the season's not going well, you know, how the fans gonna react to it These are all like very big concerns going into it. Yes. Got really lucky that we both went to the strip bowl first year we did it incredible but um I think the other big piece is what you just said is like You know, I have the ability to talk and say exactly what I think yes and control that narrative instead of saying it through somebody else Which I mean enough journalism has done that really really well for a long time Yes, there's a lot of I have nothing over spec for all the beat reporters in philadelphia and everybody that covers Anything no you don't know you don't I do well. I should sum sum you're right not everybody Yeah, um, but the vast majority. Yeah, it's been it's been fun to be able to do that And it's been cool to be able to have that connection with fans that I haven't really had before right? And you know like you Let everyone know you were coming back by making a video. You know pounding Several beers like is that what it is one source one? Okay. It was great And uh, well for me, it's that would be multiple You're you're one, you know hammer down it'd be a sipping night for me but um So you were able to do it on your own terms your own way with your own brand with your own style and get it out there I mean, there's there's nothing more powerful than that I guess I should also when you're talking about players uh podcast if I don't mention Uh, tailored to wan. Yeah, plus with the voices naming in comp Yeah, you know all the yeah, they'll be very upset if I don't mention them So They are Sensitive so I just wanted to mention those guys get michina. I do mean this when I told travis i was coming here Yeah, uh, or when we told travis you're coming here and you have to go to s&l And we told we were talking about it. Yeah, I know I know it's insane. What ever a million years. Sorry Yeah, wouldn't be at the combine. I've got a host saturday night live It's like that's an acceptable reason. Right. Yeah, it's it sounds so absurd like it it does It's right. I just it reminds me of a time in high school where I asked Uh a girl out on a date and her answer was I can't do it this weekend. I'm I'm going to yuga slovia And and and I thought that's an elaborate way to cover your tracks of saying no You know, um as a matter of fact, but her family did actually go on a trip to yuga slovia It was no it turned out to be true, but it just sounded so absurd it had to be false And that's the way. Sorry. I'm can't go to the common. I got a host s&l Yeah, that's what that sounds like to me So but he's gonna be great at it. I think he'll he'll brush it If it's so well into him. I mean they make it so easy for the host and that whole crew up there I'm sure that's gonna be awesome. I can't wait to see what's that you're gonna cook up. Yeah when I told him I was talking to you He was like, you know, I that's he was so excited. He said man. I wish I could be there. Yeah, because we grew up. You you stewardska um dampatry Scott vanta all you guys at sports center. Yeah Were one of the reasons that we were into sports besides loving and playing. Yeah, like we could not wait To go to the tv and watch sports center and you guys were unbelievable. I love doing it man Yeah, I loved doing it seven years. I did it and um, I was 26 when I first got there Um, they hired me out of red in california. Yeah, I was a local sports anchor in northern california Um, the reding Chico markets entirely possible. Aaron rogers was watching me as he was eating his fruitloose Uh in Chico. I'm by the way, I'm serious Like it's entirely possible like that's probably where he was living at the time And if he turned on channel seven, he was watching me do my thing and and espn You know, I sent a tape to a headhunter and they they found me there and age 26. I was right on sports center. Um, and Time of my life man. Yeah time. I see i i'll see a Uh, you know the video somebody will tweet out like a highlight of me calling a miami of ohio game and 99 of a sports center Highlight and it just it looks like it's a it does look like a different person. It just feels Like out of body watching that. Yeah, I've never thought about that like it all gets Because you haven't lost your hair yet. Jason's it's going if you don't even Don't even start now you're good. You're in good shape I would you're not you're not you're not you don't got the creep going on just yet. How old are you 30 35? Yeah Yeah, you're good. Yeah, you're good. So then I right around that's when I started to lose mine So I think you're fine. But yeah, it just felt you know, it just feels completely weird and it was just a different It was an amazing time. Yeah, I loved every minute of it and you went just straight from sports center to the NFL Yeah, there right in 2003. I was getting married um and um my contract came up eight days before my my wedding So I I got I got married seven days after leaving espion or being handed a cardboard box and told to leave Um, yeah, man. Yeah, people tap you on the shoulder as you know Yeah, um and this in in your that's so you and you're doing it on your own terms, which is amazing Well, you know until like if I keep going eventually they're gonna hand me the cardboard somebody You know what I mean? At some point. So that's what happened to me and I got married and um and a film that were hired me there Um in oh three and I remember going to the hall of fame Um that year in august Um, the network didn't start till november And I that first thing we did was go to the hall of fame just to do some interviews and and put them, you know Start our our network with some interviews of the hall of famers and people were coming up to me saying, you know What is nfl network? Like what are you doing? Like why would you leave espion? Like what is happening? And I was also wondering the same thing at the same time and then we came on the air in week 10 of of The 2003 season. Yeah, uh right in the middle of the season. We came on right in the middle november fourth 2003 law awkward and uh, it was it was Weird and wild like I don't know why we didn't start with the season. I don't know why um, I don't think we were ready yet Um, we went on the air and we're celebrating our 20th year this fall This is your 20th combine that you've been my 18th 18th. We we Brother's trying to get the combine coverage off the ground, you know, we ran into uh, uh, uh On occasion a bill polion wall. He was you know running the competition committee and they you know And this event old school people were like you're bringing a camera in here to do what like and why You know like why are what like what? How is it? Why would anybody want to watch this? Vertex jump televisable, you know what I mean? Like what is going on? Yeah, and so 2004 we didn't do it from the network side of things nfl films produced and uh bill patrick and old sports center anchor And mike mayoch who was working at nfl films at the time. Yeah, they did the first combine in 2004 sitting on Chairs like this on the field with a with a screen behind them. Yeah, just talking about what they're seeing on the field And then oh five we showed up. Got it Um on total access and did the show from there every night and then around 2009 or so is when they put me in a booth and I start calling the action like it's a golf tournament slash You know track meet it's it's it's a weird event. It is not Well-rounded at all But uh it is again a time of renewal like it's been two plus weeks since the super bowl And I miss it and every team is now on the clock. Yeah, and So many questions abound about you know, you're one of them as well Like what you're gonna do is one of the many questions that people want to know the answer to now Where is roger's gonna go? What's gonna happen with lamar? What's gonna happen with the jets quarterback? What's gonna happen in fill in the blank any team? Everybody's making news now and the combine is an excuse to talk about it. Yeah, yeah, well, it's also everybody's coming here So that's like have you ever gotten like inside information at the combine just talking to Executives. Oh my god. Are you serious? Um, okay. Here's the deal the combine is the it's a gossip It's like oh my god Gossip is not even The proper word for I don't know like just think of anybody out there listening watching. Yeah think of the the Loosest lipped friend of it. Okay Put that person You know in you know a tank Get him drunk get him totally drunk. All right, so they have lost all sense of any Filter. Yeah, that's the combine and that's what they do every I have heard so many rumors here in just 24 hours And it's always like So here's the deal This is what I know. I swear I got it from somebody who's really very very very long it's It's like some assistant to the trainer of the agent to the assistant of the assistant and just and you don't know What is wrong game a telephone? What is complete bullshit? Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, suddenly Rogers is a minotaur who's gonna maybe you know You guys come back as a Another creature and play for the jets like I mean like so that's that's Yeah, oh god It's just a non-stop rumor mill and the chatiest of cathies and everybody is the cattiest of them all and just like You it's it's a wild man That has been it is wild being here not Participating this is my first time ever here not running. That was the only time ever came here. I don't know why else Would you why would you come back? Yeah, there's no reason right? Yeah, that was one thing like everybody Is here for one week and they all just want to hang out and have fun. Yes on top of that They're gonna look at potential draft picks and prospects, but really they're all doing this on the side Yeah, yeah, I mean and coaches love you know blown off steam and sort of general managers and so does Long season, fun office executives it has been a long season and it's been like two weeks since then and plus You know if you make the playoffs or the super bowl, you know, it's great to walk around and just you know Say hi to your colleagues who did not yeah make that super bowl and it's you know It's it's it's a fun dynamic. It really is and so you also Get to see people kind of laid back Not in the middle of a season not getting ready for a season not getting ready for a draft It's a nice little downtime. So there is a sociable aspect sure to the combine as well for sure. Yeah, so everybody knows you've run the 40 How many I mean, I know you know how many times um I it started it started in 2005 five. Okay, and so Um, just like anything as you're learning in this business of content creation Yeah, uh, the best ideas come out of sheer boredom Total sheer boredom and so um the first combine we were at oh five where Done with a pre tape interview that we're airing later on that night for total access That we're going to do live at eight o'clock at night. Good lord. We're just sitting around It's me and tarell davis sitting in the stands at the old rca dome. Yeah, just waiting On a break everyone's on a break dinner break. We're just You know, i'm sitting there in my suit He's sitting there in his suit and i got nothing to say to each other because we've been hanging out all day And I hear the the hum of the lights and the air conditioning that's You're Easily it's like a white noise putting you to sleep. So I just turned I don't know what pop why this popped in my head But I look down in the field. I see the 40 yard dash line. I say to tarell davis Hey td how fast do you think i can run the 40? Yeah, and he goes right now. I'm like right now in my suit in my lace up shoes and he said I swear to you. This is what he said. He just laughs He goes you can't Not even an option like what do you mean you can't like like I can't like Like physically go down and do it because if that's the case, you know watch me go do it Like that was my sense and and i'm he goes no you you just can't run the 40. I said I'll just tell it. I said fuck you Watch me So I go down on the field. Oh my yeah in my suit. Yeah, I remember the suit I was wearing and my lace up Zenya crock shoes that I had bought just a special for the combine And I went out and I ran it and I had no idea that Somebody was in the truck hit record. Oh my yeah, and I had no idea somebody was shooting it Yeah, no, you zero completely it. No idea. Just ran it. Just so later on that organic 100% cursed out tarell davis ran the 40 out of sheer boredom And then later on that night on total access they surprised me at the end by showing it Oh my gosh 677 terrible. I don't yeah, that's slow brother. I talked for a living. Okay, you play I talk now You're talking you're now in my field and it's it's disturbing but I ran Apropos of nothing and later on that night they showed it and then the next day in walks in my home grin of the sea hawks And we're interviewing him in the middle of the universe. Did I see you on tv this morning running And I'm like yeah, and of course they showed it he laughed Joe Gibbs saw the same thing he walks in he starts telling a story about how he once pulled a guy out of the stands at a training camp Just to show like how tough it is to run and he made him run and you look like that guy and Over and over and over again. We showed it. We showed it. Yeah next year I show up at the combine walk in the rca dome first person I see on the field is hombre and he says to me You running again this year? I'm like, what do you mean? I don't think so and he looks at me he goes You gotta beat your time. I swear to god. This is how this was born Jason. He goes You gotta beat your time and I'm like oh my god my comb grin is like Challenging my my competitive spirit. How do I not? Try to be through that. Yeah, and he just looks at me and he goes just don't hurt yourself I'm like oh shit. He's right. Yeah, so I ran it again and then I ran it again and then I year after year after year And then I just thought to myself, you know, this thing is jumping the shark like here I'm running and just as that happened they came up with the um Advent of the simul cam like so overlaying one run after the other and so You would now overlay the real 40 yard dash runs of really fast people over me Elite athletes and just watching them fly off the screen. I'm barely at the one yard line You know it was like slapstick comedy even worse the beautiful your brother The worst one was then they decided to overlay me against bj raji. You remember bj raji. Okay, big nose guy I mean, I don't know if you ever were on the opposite side of my Scrimmage at that like the two of you were probably who are my saying or a free drawl thing center You know bj raji. I'm sure you have bashed heads with this guy, right? Yeah, so he was at the combine He did not run very fast at the combine, but it was faster than me and so watching this big dude Run off the screen on me and then somebody came with the idea of giving me a head start And then watching bj raji run through me Was like pure slapstick comedy and you know, I'm a former stand-up comedian in college so I'm I totally understand and relish the Value of a joke. Yeah, okay, and I'm like, I know it doesn't look good for me I get it, but that is fucking funny And so like that was that was so we would do it every year and then Now we're doing it for charity. Yeah, so and anytime anybody is willing to laugh at themselves looks good on them I mean, I I told look I mean, how do we not laugh at ourselves in this world? You know it would be a miserable world if you couldn't do that. Well, and I'm not surprised I mean, I mean somebody put the mumbers costume on it. You know, that was Great. I'm sure you've had plenty of that. So anyway, it was about six Wow eight years ago 2015. Yeah, one of our Great while she's moved on to NFL Europe. I believe now in UK Uh, she was in a Meeting and they came up with an idea. Sarah Swanson was her name Came up with an idea. She called me up. She goes. How would you like to run for charity? Yeah, and I'm like Sure. Yeah, like what do you got in mind? and she Mentioned how they're a handful of league charities probably should choose one of them to help Mix together get the NFL involved. Yeah, which is always important Yep, um and so the the one that jumped out of me was st Jude children's research hospital is 2015 We had three very small kids and I just thought to myself This is the worst call a parent can get how do I you know like on behalf of the small children that I have for all the other kids Let me just Have this stupid idea that was born out of boredom turn into something Yeah, and we've just grown it and grown it and grown it This is my very long-winded way of saying I'm not running it at the combine anymore That's the idea that I've now because the combine when the combine got canceled due to covid in 2021 I didn't want the run to stop. Yeah, so I ran it. It's so fi stadium With a bunch of players from the nfl legends community. Okay, and some kids from play 60 so I love the idea that I think my run is the only Idea whatever you want to call it. I'll just screw it event event Yeah, the only event that mixes the legends community with kids. That's awesome like play 60 nfl legends So I got you know jerry rice and rodwoodson and tarell davis fittingly Yeah And you know chris carter a whole bunch of um just to name a few showed up at sofai and ran with some Very good harded deep pocketed individuals who donated and we ran it and it was just pretty cool Okay, so the next year Last year we did it the rose bowl It's a that was incredible. Yeah, michigan guy Yeah, i'm michigan man and i covered the rose bowl and bose last game For my school newspaper and here i am in the rose bowl with the st. Jude logo painted on the field It was wild that's unbelievable and rg three ran and vick ran and Fast and that that got that got some more buzz going which obviously means more donations So i think that's the way to do it. That's how you're doing it this year Yeah, i think that's just the way i'm going to do it from now on because um i can also you know make it bigger Hopefully make it more money right and i also find legends and kids i also don't have to run here and by running here I when i run here or when i ran here It's the end of a day of a broadcast when i'm sitting on my ass eating like garbage I feel like my hip flexors like atrophying just and i dreaded it i would be doing that this whole This whole pop, you know this whole day Uh, i'm up in the booth you can ask me awkward you had dj on i think earlier yesterday daniel jerema like i'm up there Like stretching and commercial breaks and whatever Misrable i'm like, oh god i have to run later today, you know, it's not the way you want to get up around No No asking for an no and plus at some point long story short i you know i'm 53 I don't know how long people want to watch me run anyway it seems like people are still enjoying it I I will take it i certainly love it every year. Thanks brother Have you ever thought about doing another event too? Folks, you know i've said why don't you you know lift weights or whatever 25 bench? I don't know that then it's just it's done and plus you know that's the logo of my show now the running man Is the logo of my show? Yeah And so in the suit and tie and the funny thing is when they when they first Came up with the idea when my show was at the time was born by direct tv and you know i own the show now That's another long story, but anyway direct tv was the one that birthed it And um came up with the idea how about you know the logo is you in your suit running i'm like great Then they created some like mad men looking silhouette Um with me running and the problem with their initial Uh version of it is it was so real that my left leg when i run does kick out like i have a terrible running style Okay, and it looked terrible it looked terrible i say do me a favor Can you make this a more athletic and i watched them jason i watched them on a computer take my leg and move it in More underneath my body to make it look like a more athletic Silhouette like i'm like, okay now now we're good Yeah, yeah, I feel the 40 is the event though that everybody's watch watches the combine Yes, like all the other events are great when you're in it you care about all these drills and you do yeah coaches but as A viewer was the first time i ever saw the combine yeah the 40 is what gets you there Well, it's also the most relatable thing jason I mean like you know, you know when you're going through your drills here That you're being put in positions that are not natural to the game But it's natural to see if your ankles flex as your hips flex if you're gonna bend and you know That you're gonna dip instead of bend like that's what they're looking for when you're doing your drills And for a fan it's just like well, I think there's a john if it's an off offensive one But which one I think it is where you're like you're you're lying on your back to start the drill right get up and you have to shuffle side Exactly right like If you're on your back, Jason, it's not a good place to be it's bad news You're not getting off we should not be in this position exactly like that's not what you know You want to see out of your offensive lineman is prone on on his back But for the drill that is what they want to see because they want they do want to see your Appetuses. You get up. They want to see how your hips drop correct. Yeah, right So fans might be a little bit thrown off by that like running fast in a straight line That you get yeah, you can get it. You can also just easily understand. Oh that person's fast That person is really fast Or in other cases not but So that's why many reasons why I think the 40 is the most popular and And see who's fastest and you can also do that metric like okay that guy is now the fourth fastest Yeah, oh, I remember that guy who was um faster Or I don't remember that guy and it just shows you that running fast doesn't mean you're really successful in the NFL So that's an neat way to look at the run in the second time like man Okay, this guy was close to that first guy the last time we're on Let's see if you can break that guy this right now With the simul cam feature that I was talking about before like you're putting my homes over the fastest quarterback here Over russell wilson over dak. Yeah, and we can just compare years fans Love that. I know I do I want to see it was a game changer when they started doing that Did they did they put Travis over did we put Travis over you Here like that's the sort of shit we do to brothers like we do we kind of clown him Is ran by we we do that like I don't try have had some I know he ran it as pro day I'm not sure I don't know if he ran it as calm at the combine like that's the sort of stuff that will we'll do Yeah, you know, yeah So and I think people like that and also I love the fact That we get to flex that we've been we've been around and I found that works been around We've been around so and that's and that's and also, you know, I want to show We should show jail and hurts at the combine. Yeah, right? Like that's what we should see now that he has become what he is becoming a super star, right like this is where it started When he was here like and I I said also to in our meeting yesterday like we need to Show on the screen even though he he did throw but He he we need to have Brock purty standing in the background of last year's quarterback drills Yeah, where that kid At that combine nobody's thinking what he could possibly do sure this year And I kind of dig that those stories like you know, I know again Um, you know, they didn't work out for your team, but we did have skymore and Um pacheco at the combine last year. Yeah, they both scored in the super bowl Yeah, and I don't know how many times you've seen rookies do that He's he runs with a fury right and he was he ran four three and change here last year and fell all the way to the seventh round So that's the sort of thing we're gonna when the run and backs run like hey like pay attention because You know the kid who ran last year was chosen seventh round He scored in the super bowl and skymore the guy you were saw running the gauntlet in the wide receiver drills He scored in the super bowl. So you never know Who's gonna come out right, you know, and so we love that. I love that stuff. I love it Do you have a favorite position group to watch or ones that like because I quarterback's always the hardest to predict, right? Here's a deal with me with the combine the way I view my role here is Multiple fold, but I'm not here to tell you What you're seeing in a drill and I'm not here to tell you what's on the all 22 like that's not my my gig sure my gig is to do two things one put everything in perspective with what team needs are You know from from what I do on my show every day For three hours talking to people and talking and interviewing people who are willing to come on my show And and I gather Narratives I gather what team fans or interest what what teams fans want or are demanding or are talking about And what the team needs are and free agencies right around the corner in the new league years beginning Yeah, so I I love talking about What's going on in the football world completely and what these kids might Fit in terms of a need and also it's just really Really dry watching some of this stuff. So I try to keep it entertaining And I'm sorry if I'm saying the wrong words too. I try to I want you watching. Yeah, I don't want you turning off So I it's got to be completely I'll say douche free, you know, like it's got to be I love that completely I don't know that I've ever used that phrase, but I'm stealing that take it That's you know, I know it's a it's a You know, it's not it's a very coarse way of Of saying something, but it's true like I I want you To have it on, you know in the background or pay attention. I don't care But I just I don't want you turn off like I can't listen to this guy another second I can't listen like I can't I can't I mean seriously I what do you think is the key to being douche free? Um, I don't know I'm myself like authentic. I'd hope hopefully like that You've never come off. Well, that's the idea. I've always been douche free to me. Thank you, sir I've never been more Um Taken it back and complimented at the same time. I've never what an odd feeling is coursing through my my veins right now But that's I don't I don't know man. I'm just myself and I try not to take myself too seriously as we've talked about Yeah, and uh, but I I do want your attention, you know, I do you know It does what I do for a living requires that you stay tuned. Yeah, and you know, I God so I do three hours every day on my show. I do four hours every sunday morning on nfl game day morning Yeah, I'll be doing six hours tonight six hours tomorrow eight hours saturday and eight hours sunday And then the draft hits and it's like a telethon So I don't do anything that's a half an hour long like if I ever have an hour long show in my career I'll be like this is a walk in the park. How do I fit everything in? Well, you have pretty much like I'll I'll be wondering like I need more time Which is why obviously what great is great about a podcast like you can go as whatever you want. Yeah, so um I'm not going eight hours three hours No, but that's but but so I have to have a certain style when I'm on these shows That will keep your interest and not turn you off like I just don't want that that's the worst thing But I also don't want certainly when I'm doing my show every day in three hours I traffic and some you know sports talk radio and up against the debate shows on other networks and sure like I don't want to I love to be heard, you know, I don't want to be turned off and I like to be heard But that's not my reason for doing what I do like it's not my reason for being like I don't care if i'm you know, um I don't care if i'm right. I care if i'm wrong like that's a fact You're not just gonna stay something just to get attention and but I I have to say this too. I do love being right though I mean it feels oh god That's when it's great to have a show with your name on it when you're right when you say something and you're right Uh, it's it's great. It's yeah I do love puffin my chest out, but that's kind of the philosophy that I have I want to go back to this just for a second. I did not know this you said you did stand up in college. Yes What do you think that that has helped you? Immeasurably Oh god, nothing's nothing's more difficult than walking into a room. Yeah Have you ever tried it? I've never tried it. I'm always your brother is gonna do saturday night. Yeah Is very difficult now. I know he's gonna be reading off the cute cards and he's gonna be rehearsing He's gonna be doing all that's gonna be as good of a setup as you can have Support system there. It's just an snl support system. Yeah, it's first rate. Yeah pretty good. Yeah But still it's live. It's live. Exactly. Right. You gotta perform You're right one shot at it and you can't break the crowds gonna let you know whether they think it's funny or not Yes, correct. And it's nerve-wracking and You know the all the nothing compares to to that and oh That feeling when you walk into a room and you you've got your set you've got your material And you think it's gonna work But the crowds off or whatever. Yeah, and boy when it bonds it's so terrible Terrible so I always had in my back pocket the big finish for me was Um, and I know i'm dating myself howard co-sell the the announcer again. This is late 80s Um howard co-sell is one of my idols growing up. I would read the letters in in penthouse magazine in his voice in his voice Killed every time when I say every time Never didn't kill never didn't kill and my parents came to see me one time there To their new york city public school educators who came out to michigan. I think they even drove jesus Uh, they drove and they saw it and they were and I did the act and I introduced them in advance So people were seeing I was doing it in front of my parents and I got to a particularly awful line I just said did you get that mom like the place just went flat and I love Nothing beats the feeling of of of getting that You know laughter and feedback to the point where I I tell everybody whenever i'm on any show You know and your crew here like laugh like I want to hear Like i'm expecting yeah hearing that and it's not their job to laugh at my shit But I love it if they did and I don't mind it. I don't mind it. I love my randoms over here You try not to make noise because of the show but it's but it's great. This is working I like that. I like that when you're watching game day morning Yeah, you hear you'll hear the crew laughing and you know hootman hollering and whatever that That's energy. I like that. That means if they're liking it in the room that means you're liking it on your couch or ever You're watching it. So i'm i'm i'm kind of ingrained for that A couple of years. I did my show at the super bowl in front of a live audience. That was amazing I loved like I warmed up the crowd like I hadn't done that in in years. I love that I love the feedback and so it's made everything else i've ever done live tv That much easier. Yeah, the only thing that would come that compared the one time that i've done my job As a broadcaster that made me feel the similar like butterflies Is one year I did sport center at the angels? Giants world series So I guess that's uh 2002 I guess okay last world series I covered free spn and so the reason why i bring it up is i'm at whatever it's called now I don't know what but at the time packbell ball ballpark that's home of the giants Okay out there on the sport center set and left center field Games over lasted really long. I don't forget who won over who lost But all I know is that we're going live On sport center from there 10 o'clock at night 1 a.m Eastern going to do the highlight hadn't seen it yet And that that happened all the time to me, but what got me do the highlight multiple spot Brother my first sport center that I did in my life age 26 I my first sport center was on a uh a sweet 16 saturday At seven o'clock at night. I had 12 highlights I saw one highlight before going on one 11 of them were going to be coming during the show is games branding Yeah, you're not coming out of the edit bay and everything And they you know it's all written out for you in a shot sheet not to get too deep into it But you're not like just looking at it by that you have notes you're given notes But I just remember walking down for my first sport center of my life thinking I have two choices I can P down my leg or I can just go ahead and just suck it up and do this thing like I've been built for this Like this is your moment go do it. Yeah, like talking myself. So what I wound up doing was both I pee down my leg And I I I grabbed the I grabbed the brass ring at the same time I might have been doing the sports center while urinating. Yes possible. Yes, but well, that's encourages you're terrified Correct. Go do it anyways, right? I'm in i'm in pat bell ball park and they get in my ear right before we're going live You're doing the highlight if there's any mistakes We've got a way to do it live again at 2 a.m And because they couldn't like just record it for whatever reason because they were coming out like the satellite link It was all live like they couldn't record anything So just wanted to let me know because if you screwed it up any other time we could just admit it It's a commercial break you were on tape for the rest of the show I could just record it there got it But for so the reason why it made me wild is the entire crew Would have to stay the whole crew like literally every human being on the set It's not just you who wanted to go home like it was Well end of a long ass night like and so Everybody was like on pins and needles wanting me to nail it Yeah And I that really freaked me out like i'm like, okay I'm gonna like the whole crew is just like this asshole Couldn't say you know the word percival. I don't know like so I mean uh it was Nerve-racking. That's the only time I felt like a stand-up type butterfly in my stomach There is something about other people's lives being affected by mistakes or something like that that uh resonates more with like personal Brian kelly's our college football coach. He moves me to center Whenever I had a bad snap. I had never snapped the ball before and he said whenever I had a bad snap All right kels take a lap around the field. Yeah, and that sucked right and what running and everybody's laughing at me What took it to the next level is like kels You're obviously don't care if I make you run Right If you have another bad snap the entire team is doing a lap around the field I tell you I was so terrified to have a bad snap because I'm like these guys are gonna fucking hate my guts I'm sorry. They're gonna hate my guts. It's the same thing. Oh by the way, I'm not a lot of work You're on this show. I'm sorry. Okay. You're allowed to do anything We're both gonna do anything. Okay. Okay. Good enough. Um, so you're freaking out. I imagine yeah, and uh, I failed And you really had to do a lap and it was man. It was a terrible feeling. That's this so that is basically the entire Crew would have had to take in the lap of Standing and sitting around for another hour. Yeah for me to try and get it right a second time. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah, I But you nailed it. Oh, yeah I'm professional so lead pipe wielding professional when you Jason back to your this just in Sorry Do you feel like you're like performing like yeah when you're on there you Like absolutely unconsciously thinking about that when you were in the stand up. I am not unconsciously thinking it I am at 1 million percent doing that. Yeah, yeah I'm always thinking about what would be good tv and what's not if I push the pedal of the metal here in this block I need to kind of pull back on the next one and that's something Keith oberman taught me years ago You know, he would when I first started sports center walking around the hallways He would cross past me and he'd go no not yet Next day just walk and past him hey Keith Not yet He keep walking and he saved us to me day after day after day. So I finally get up the card say okay, Keith I'm gonna I'll bite. Yeah, what do you mean not yet? And he says to me you haven't come close to being able to do the type of sports center you can do I'm like what do you mean? He goes everything's a joke for you Everything he goes. So do me do yourself this favor Do an entire show where you don't do a single joke Build up to it don't do a joke in a and a highlight just do one highlight straight then do an entire segment straight Then do two segment straight build up to doing an entire show where you don't make any jokes Then do that again then do it for a week Then build it back up where you're throwing Something in because if it's always a gag always a joke Yeah, it doesn't feel it doesn't resonate It doesn't feel right and then plus what happens when something serious happens. Yeah, you can't be taken seriously And I'm like oh man like I'm not even Close like it like boom my head exploded And I didn't know if I was capable of doing it, but that here this is great The moment that it really hit me is I was for a year Begging put me on the road. I want to go on assignment begging All I did was just sports center never out on the road never Got to be at an event. Yeah, and I'm like, please put me out there So they finally relented after about 13 14 months of just pure sports centers. They sent me to Cover a Celtics Seattle super sonics game in the old boston garden For nba to night from remember there was there was always a two in the for the yes Two shows. Yeah rpm to night nhl to tonight. This was for nba to tonight. I would be the correspondent covering Celtics Super sonics because the sonics were Winning 60 games that year they were awesome So cam gary pate and all of them. Yeah, so I went into their locker room after the game They just mopped the floor with the seltics and they came in like total pros No gags. No nothing. It was like you could hear fucking pin drop like they that they had just gotten blown out Yeah, and I'm walking around the room and one after another incomes gary pate and incomes debt left shrimp incomes George carl and they all like look at me like staring a hole from me and I thought to myself Oh, no Did I make fun of any of these guys on sports? Oh And I started going in my head like yeah, like just Like going back. Yes, you couldn't go back. Nothing was there. Nothing. No, I couldn't call myself out like I called you out to start So yeah, like I kept going in my head like oh no and um I then made a pact as I sat there and stewed in and cooked like I felt like I was You know A cooking in my own, you know Stu in that locker room. I mean I swore to myself that I would never say anything on the air That I would never say to somebody's face ever again Ever again like if I'm having a take if I'm having an opinion if i'm It's something I got our own Yeah And I cannot make fun of somebody just for the sake of making fun that moment like I will never forget that it just Lip like bulb over my head, you know at age 27 being right there in front of the gas I mean, how can I yeah in a locker room like how can I not You know what am I gonna just do whatever I want to do and then stay away from the guys that i'm talking about right like that's That's another part of my upbringing in a way, you know, that's awesome. First of all. Thank you Yeah, I think that that's something that a lot of journalists don't do and that's Integrity to the fullest You know what I mean like I I if I'm making a living talking about the sports played by these men and women How can I not You know own that right that's the what I felt And it was it was invaluable. These are all invaluable lessons for me. So you were begging to do events. Yeah, now you do Every event pretty much right I try yeah, like what what is your favorite event the draft draft? I gotta say it's my favorite too. There's something about watching Somebody's dream like be realized right the combines kind of like that too. It is There's a lot of kids that you know stacy dales who's so great Um and she's gonna be on the field for us um Throughout the combine she was saying some of the kids that she was interviewing were getting like choked up that their dreams are just about to begin Here at the combine. Yeah, I mean that's their first this is their first time doing this NFL event, correct meeting coaches Correct being like man. I'm actually I'm getting goosebumps even just thinking about this But I'm actually gonna be in the NFL because I remember being there. Yes because about 96 or 95 I know that sounds really specific to show off But I just saw the numbers like 95 96 percent of the combine invites invites are drafted Yeah, it has to be like it's just like what this they're in a different order here They're an alphabetical order here at some point. They will be in numerical order. Yes. Yeah in the NFL draft Yeah, this is your first taste of Everything you've worked for or everything you went to college through everything you've been through with your family hell yeah We're about to be in the biggest we're in the show now Vernon Davis was crying when he was here I remember when he jumped out of the gym in the old RCA done DK Metcalf Yeah, we don't like to think about that too much in Philadelphia. I'm sure I'm sure but DK Metcalf FaceTiming his mom after he crushed it here Yeah, because you know he had a neck injury and a lot of people thought he shouldn't have left School when he did and he came here and he killed me FaceTime of his mother and he's crying. Yeah, I mean That's what it's all about and the draft is I just love the draft. It is a marathon Um, it is the most mentally taxing thing I have to do Because you know that clock keeps moving. You gotta be ready. Yeah, there's many different voices trades can come up And uh, I I hope the draft lives forever. You know, unfortunately Social media Twitter your phones are faster than the commissioner to the podium Um, yeah, so I I'm off my phone on the first night of the draft. I want I want a reaction Yeah, I got a reactor. Yeah, I got a react to Yes, because people think I know that like I'm I'm tipping a pick like I know the pick Because I could know the pick by the way. Yes, because When a pick is made in the NFL draft Two phone calls are made one to the next team on the clock to let them know they're on the clock and who's just been taken It's so they tell them. Yeah, right. Yeah. And so and then and then they call from the draft room, uh, when they get the call at the uh at the actual draft they then let the Broadcast snow so the graphics can be set on So the pick the truck knows and the next team knows And then of course the player knows And of course there's somebody who might be in the room who knows and invariably an agent finds out and variably Yes and Twitter, I think it's it it kind of Moved past, um, the draft being the first to tell you to twitter was the first to tell you I think that happened about five years ago It's that that line began to move about five years ago So, uh, I don't want to be accused of you know acting. I I want to react authentic Yes, of course like that's what you want people to watch. Yeah, so and plus again I don't give a shit about being right. I do care about being wrong So I'm I don't need to I'm not doing the draft just so I could be boy man. I told you So this week, yeah, I told you I knew because I know their needs and I know football So look at me like that's not why I do the draft I just love being in the mix of doing something live not just because for stand-up because everything else that I do Um is either previewing it or reacting to it So the fact that I get to do something as it happens And tell you about it and be sitting alongside you While you learn at the same time. I love that shit I love it and and stuff moves and I hope it I hope they continue to I think they will You know again, the draft could be done like a fantasy football draft in an hour if you just point and click Right instead. It's a show. It's made to be a show. Yeah, Jason. It is a show. It is a show It is a total show And people I think dig it. I think it is again old school to watch a draft Because again, you could just be on your phone go. Oh my team just chose this and make sure it out It's the only way I've ever done it, but I've never looked on I've always just watched it good Yeah, I like that. Yeah, hopefully us not not a esp. M You watch you watch anaphone network. I watch now. Just stop whatever. No, just stop. Just say the words I want to guide I sit I click in nfl draft. Yes. Watch anaphone. Thank you. Does that tell? How difficult was that? I'm a fragile man I'm a fragile man. By the way, it was great meeting your parents. Yeah, I really appreciate you doing that They've it was an unbelievable week for them for our family My mom, I mean, she just saw me a video yesterday like recapping it My dad. I mean, thanks for it was come on It's so i'm going about my business and you know putting together the um the guest list Is something that's it's it's it's difficult, you know, because you had to pick and choose and them I'm lucky that I do get to sometimes pick and choose sometimes I do Want somebody but the timing doesn't work or they're not coming like and this is not a shot at you That's not another shot at you, but um You think shots me but it is no, but it is it is it is a process and so I found out, you know, add in donna kelsey You're Going to be available available. Yeah, and i'm like really okay, and I found out that your mom was sponsored Yep, okay. I think it was a pizza was she was a pizza like like the code has a lot of things in your promo code Yeah, that's what it's pizza the promo code of mama kelsey like i'm like wow. She's now got a promo code Your mom's got a promo code man So, you know and it was it was just I love, you know Meeting your folks because I I know you know what goes into Being there, you know and being there and being present and You know to have one kid in the in the NFL now have two and I have two kids in the NFL And you know, i'm not just saying it just because i'm on your podcast here I mean you're you're going to the hall of fame. So is your brother I can say these things you don't have to but you're going to hall of fame and have two kids in the going to the hall of fame in the home state of ohio Um to be forever enshrined and then to play against each other in a super bowl That is so cool And I I just wanted to see their dynamic and just I think your your dad was kind of like your mom was totally Into it your dad. I think was kind of like still with his head on the swivel like his head was seemingly swimming to me Over I couldn't compute it. Yeah, you know, so I just wanted to you know have them on and just sit chat with him I I love meeting him which one would you like more? Look at you put me on the spot I mean, how do I not say your mom? Yeah, I know we all say mom I mean dad's can dad's it's supposed to be mom, right if your dad I think my dad be mad if I didn't say dude, of course my dad would have made he rested peace and this another thing too my dad You know Um when I first started on sports center Um about two three years in a card come I think was tops like came around and made cards for sports center anchors I'm like sure I'll do it. You know and they made like a playing card for me um and um So long story short is they gave yeah, they are out there. I just signed one yesterday walking into the combine There's too many of them. That's the point of the story is that is that they made like thousands of them Yeah, I'm like what am I going to do with this? So what I did is I gave it to my parents. I'm like here. You got it. So my father would um have these in reserve there's Again many of them and when people came to the house to like, you know plumber or cable or whatever And they would stroll past the family photos and they would recognize the sports center guy Or the NFL network guy and they'd say oh are Then they put two and two together the eyes and family and then me they're like is that your son? And if they talked well of me, yeah, they got a card And I so when these people my my dad my dad would give out these cards You know and so when my father would say yeah, so the sink wasn't working Then so he but it's working now. You just tell me what's going on there I'm like so did the plumber plumber came. Yeah, I'm like was he cardworthy dad and he's like well He didn't say anything so I didn't give a card But if they said something there he got a card. So I mean I could not imagine the super bowl Being someone's card, you know what I mean like that To me is what it's all about man. You know, yeah, I I was Emotional all week a little bit I tried to not think about it. You know trying to focus on the gift course and After the game seeing Travis. I wasn't that emotional a little bit pissed off. Of course. I got it the moment I saw my mom Uh, it's it. Yeah, I mean it's for them and knowing everything they sacrificed To give us the opportunity to play whatever sport we wanted. Yeah Any like all the equipment? Yeah in more than that the time I did coach me in lily baseball and and I mean He was involved in everything I did so was my mom and for them to both I don't know be celebrated As I think representatives of like all the parents to do this for their kids. Yeah, it was it was um It was um, I mean it was unbelievable. So that's cool That was when it really hit me was like man. I'm just so proud and happy for them and in the week that they just had It was great. Yeah, it was great and plus so you know, thank you for no come on man Again, having them on just wanted to meet them and and and I just knew there would be a time that I would Be with you meet you and see you and then I could say that literally every member of your family has been on my show And you haven't like I don't know if you get I'll read that's not very much and you don't strike me as an la type person who says things and then you don't follow up on Your word is your bond. Yes. Are you saying to me that you're coming on the rich eyes and show that's going to happen It is it is guaranteed as well as you'll have me. Oh god. If you will have me. I I'll have you. Yeah. Yeah, I would be more than happy to have that Um as evidenced by the number of times I've reached out. I'm picking up. I can I'm picking it up with an empty hand Um, so is there anything you want to ask me? I feel like I've been asking all the questions and you're the professional Professional I asked come on my show. That's when I'll do all that. That's that. Yeah, but no other than that I mean, you know I'm just thrilled to see your you guys this pod is taken off. Yeah clearly has and so it's great timing I mean go to the shoot bowl and um, you know, it's it's it's it's been a lot of fun Uh, I don't know what how where it's gonna go or anything like that, but it's it's I don't know I love talking to people. I love well obviously than the two of you do, you know and the two of you together You know It's fun. It's a good dynamic. It is a good dynamic I mean, that's part of the reason why the man in cast is so great. You're watching two brothers bust each other stones You know watching a game and you know you guys As well people like watching your dynamic together and being able to talk You know at the height of uh football relevancy too. It's pretty cool. Yeah, it really is What's your advice if somebody's gonna go try and do stand up? Are you thinking by somebody? Are you seriously thinking about? I have always wanted to do it. Okay. I've always been terrified Why um because i've never done it. Okay, ever i've never even written down jokes. I don't write Okay, I don't even know where the process begins. Okay, watch. I've loved stand up Right tarlenev back to comedy central presents like the roasts are the best or the roasts. Oh my gosh I love it. Yeah, I've always thought about what it would be like sure something Well, I can hook you up with them. Whatever. You who do you want to be like? No, I'm just talking about what is your advice? I wasn't that great at it. I mean, you did it I did it and you've been just have the courage just have courage. Just you know, don't tell me that I don't have any courage Yes, I doubt that I doubt that just have the courage, you know and right I'm I'm gonna go down the road now, but now now but back in the day I never really I did write down like the setlist I would have you know in my head a gag or a joke or a line It would be all based on like yeah, like my I broke You know, I made fun of my college courses at the time. Yeah, this is I mean, you know now obviously would be about fatherhood and would be about other things about it my own life Just make it about yourself and your your observations and and go for it. Oh good Yeah, I would love to see that for sure. Well, yeah, we're not gonna record that first one Well, you should You should you should and then and then you know, maybe you crash saturday night, you know, uh-huh crash it Yeah, take it over Create your own moment. Yeah Create your own moment. Well, you go viral. I think that stuff's pretty scripted. Yes It is. Yeah, it is now I have been to a couple of SNL's and my advice to you there. Yeah is sleeping Saturday morning Sleeping because it's gonna be a late night The afterparty is the greatest thing ever okay And you're and it goes like you will see the sunrise sunday And it is gonna be lit you are gonna have a blast that is gonna be something man This is great news. It is what yeah, okay It is like a good advice all right big time like sleep in saturday hydrate all day Because you're going be prepared you're going deep into the sunday morning to be on your game during the show correct But more importantly after you're on your game. Yes, it's like one of those things like just the adrenaline is over You know, it's one in the morning And then that's when things begin. All right, i'm gonna steal this advice and take it to travis do it Yeah for sure. You got to let them know. Yeah, i'm very happy for you and you're bro Man, you there's anything else for me. I feel like you don't want to quit me right now I feel like you don't want to quit me like like we can talk forever I could talk to you for forever. Okay, there was some i'm not even making i'm not making this up Okay, the moment we walk through each other in the hallway. Yes, sir I have and I The elegance at which you walk and I don't know if it's because you're uh The aura about you. I have an aura. You're correct. Yes. As you're walking by i was like oh my gosh I've never seen somebody walk by me with such elegance. I swear to get out of here I was thinking this as i was the bad man elegant walker. I guess that what I am I don't that's what I felt this is is this new is nobody ever told nobody's ever told me I walk elegantly No, it's over in a 40 elegantly. I don't see i know but walking it was look at me It was very smooth. Look at us Handshake and it was like man. That is a elegant was I taller than you you'd think no Okay I'll accept that I'll accept that Okay, all right, but at least i'm more elegant than you thought okay. I'll take it. I mean i'm fantastic It was one of the most elegant things i'm saying thank you. Um, thank you. Um, what uh Anything else you want to unburn yourself? I had to say that I don't know why if I felt it in the moment I just had to get off my chest. We're always gonna have this We're always gonna have it How was going to Michigan? Loved it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, man. Yeah, how come you didn't go to Ohio State? Wasn't offered I didn't get offered anywhere. They suck came down. They suck. Just say it. Yeah, they suck. You buccos. That's correct Now you're talking my language. I'm gonna get dude. Oscar Sosra. Let me turn state of Ohio. Did you ever see did you see? Um Last year I did I do the jacket dinner at the hall of fame every year. Okay, so I hope one day hope to I know I know you don't like this or stuff, but so um I do that jacket dinner every year and the last several years I get heckled At the mic OH I oh oh oh h I real original guys Like yeah, you can spell I get it You know and I really don't have much of a leg to stand I couldn't then much of a leg to stand on yeah because you know Um, what's the words for um, oh, how I stated been kicking Michigan's ass up down the block So you're you're looking forward. So last year. Yeah was the first year I had done it off of Michigan wind. Okay in I think seven eight years And I came prepared now again. This is the whole stand up, you know live performing Aspectrum and I love it 5 000 people in this arena, uh, and I step up to the podium you didn't see this at all no okay, man It's it's it went viral to the point where it became because it was no news on august whatever the hell it was It was an alert on my on the espn my app. It alerted, you know rich eyes and hey you just did this Oh and oh god. I gave it to the ohana state fans with both barrels great pleasure. Oh it was amazing it was Great and it is some of my like I try to put it on my my emmy real I try to actually put it on the real I I put into you know, hopefully get nominated and win an emmy award I tried to do it, but and if i'm networked didn't broadcast it was only broadcast locally so it couldn't qualify That's how good it was it was so it was truly some of if I may say so elegant work by may it was great I loved it and then of course the feedback I would receive from Ohio state fans was that just a one-off You know, we'll see in november see in next year and we did it again Then we did it again in the horseshoe we did it again and we put up another 40 burger on him again So this year is great joy when I go back to canton this year great pride and your great state of ohio I am going in chest first And I may need security okay Can I get you I will for sure and your brother can I get the kelsey brother to be honored to be to be potentially road grade for me when I Absolutely blowtorch the place like a quinton tarantino movie. I'm going to go It's going to be great. I don't know what i'm gonna say But all I know is it's it's it's gonna be on I can't wait to oh Good lord. They didn't offer you they didn't offer you I didn't get offered anybody. I was a walk on So I walked on a Cincinnati. I'm straight. You I almost went there was between since i knew how state this bird And uh, I just thought since an ad I loved it when I went down to the school That was it I felt like I could get a scholarship how state was daunting I mean there's a lot of five star recruits and things like that since I was a division one programmer Felt like I could get So like joe burrow you went somewhere else and you you yeah, you succeeded Yeah, just like what he had to do from a while state Well, yeah, I tried to recruit you a burrow to since an adi and did not work You went to lsu and it was the best decision ever made yeah when he was in the transfer Like he was in the trash report all over and uh, you called them up. I didn't text him I didn't I didn't somebody gave me gave me his number. Yeah, and they said hey, uh You know luffica was with them at a gangster Of course you recruit him. She's like would you mind like I think this guy this kid would be like really good You're since an adi And uh, I shot him a text and it was right after our shooper ball run and he's like man You you asked killed it this year. You had a great speech loved it. I was like, hey man. Yeah, well Best of luck to you. I hope you keep sense an adi in mind when you're you're trying to decide where to go I didn't want to push him or anything for and uh he ends up going to lsu having I've not seen him since Like he's a guard. I have not seen him said by the way. Hey great job. Not taking my sales pitch for sense an adi Yeah, it worked out really well. Justin jefferson being there and all you know And it worked out chasing all Oh my gosh, but ended up in Cincinnati That's all that matters. Yeah, queen city got him better and how lucky are they? I mean unbelievable That's funny. Yeah, so you knew already like that kid who was in the quarterback room and was leaving was that good Like you you you had heard about I didn't know but that was the somebody told you like hey They said this kid is really special and i'm like how special is it because you can't start right and uh right We've seen this the number time. He Joe bro. Jalen hurts transfers from Alabama. I mean, I love his story God, do I love the story of your quarterback? There are a few God, I love him first of all I love whenever Somebody Has the perseverance to stick to it and then it achieves yeah But more so than that and i'm told this is jalen. He's done it in a way He never gives credence to the doubters. He doesn't even acknowledge it just All right, and he and he goes out then he just proves everybody wrong and Yeah, you know, he's he's tough. He's a great player um He played about The best super boy. I think you could i've ever seen a quarterback play even As good as the other one played on the other sideline in patrick mohomes. I mean, dude I I took a shot. I shoot out for the ages. I have it right here. I took a shot of the scoreboard at the super bowl Yeah, um, hold on a minute. Don't worry. This is good. Okay. I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I trust you with my life I've got blessed you This is I took a shot of it because I couldn't believe what I'd seen right there So because he had such an incredible first half I mean his first half was incredible here it is First quarterback in nfl history to rush for two touchdowns and throw another in a super bowl And that was just in the first half two minutes to go in the first half Yeah, and um, I tweeted that out. I'm like, so This is how jaylin hurts is gonna respond to playing in a super bowl. Yeah, got it Yeah, never was oh First sumo, how's he gonna do? Yeah, it's gonna be rattled Is he gonna? Well, how's he gonna do in the spotlight and he set a record before halftime? Yeah Oh, he's a gamer man. I just I'd love the fact that he didn't transfer Stuck around and then did get in against georgia in the same freaking Fielding in the sec championship and beat him beat him And then went to okeroama throwing and everybody in the criticism was rapping Right, you're seeing him get better and yes And then goes to oklahoma makes the Heisman podium losing to borrow. Yeah Um Come on. Yeah, and then get drafted in fille and everyone's like why yeah We did a Carson at the time. No, I know But I understand like why some people would say why but I mean he wasn't Bood like McNabb was born into philadelphia because he wasn't ricky williams. Yeah, you know, I was Alone away when that was going on, you know at the time I was on a sports center when that happened but long story short love hurts love his story Love everything about him. You know, I've met him once he's been on the show many times Um, so, you know, and I loved him. I love him telling his story We had him on before the draft when he was drafted. Yeah, and he called in and um, I'm like who's Who are you? What's the team gonna get with jailin hurts? He's like he's answering his leg. You're gonna get a dog Yeah, and you're gonna get a guy who's gonna lead and I thought to myself. I'm not kidding. I've thought to myself You know, what team's he gonna lead? Yeah, you know, I like he's like he's not a first-rounder He's not like what teams he can lead on and I'm like what a dumbass thought In retrospect. I mean talking about leading good lord by example by word by by manner By game. I know i'm preaching the choir, but I know yeah, but I mean you're right and it's it's he's been that way since day one Um, he's gotten better and he's and as you play more and have success you get more Credence from your peers right you you're given that leadership role a lot more than having to earn it. Yeah Um, but he's earned it every step of the way and how he handled what he was drafted into right with how he handled New coaches coming in. Yeah, and I you know he just does everything. Yeah, I don't want to You know He just does everything the right way. He does he says everything the right way. Yeah, he cares himself the right way He's got the perfect blend That I think leaders need to have where they're they're they're confident Uh, they believe in their their teammates They're outwardly humble But in their head they're the most vicious person on the field did and it's such That it's so hard to find that all in one person. That's what makes the difference in jam and the great ones unicorn. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely I don't know where to go. Yeah, do we don't make it end I'll I'll tell this story. Okay. Um, and then I think it's a it's a good button Okay, um, if you don't mind me button, please That's what I do. I'm a professional button upper in many ways. I button stuff up for a living. All right I will handle this. Thank you. So I'm a big game show nut too. Oh my god. Okay, we just okay huge game show Not what's your favorite one price is right? It's the best. It's the best. It's the best It's the it is the best so then you'll love this story then okay in particular I'm a die harder prices right years ago the NFL network reached out said CBS is promoting the fact that they have the super bowl Like what are you talking about what the super bowl needs promoting? It was weird But they're like they they want you and another guy The network turned out to be Eric Davis who was working at NFL network at the time Want you guys to go and give away a showcase on the prices right? To help promote the NFL. Okay, come on. So I said jump out. Oh, no. Oh, no. Okay. I said I will do it under one condition You know make him think like, you know, I need to I need to have demands Matt Yeah I said for me to do it. I need to say the words brand new car gotta say Okay, showcase is gotta include a car. Okay, so I say the words brand and you and the only way to say it is brand new car brand new car You know like it's got If I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna go full bore. Yeah, I only know one speed. Yeah, so I did that incredible This car wasn't oh, I don't remember. I don't give a shit. Yeah, they didn't win it. Yeah So uh they overbid it was terrible class And and and and my guy from my show TJ Jefferson went on the prices, right? Okay, and and his his episode aired While we were on the rich isen show and prior to that my my My guy chris brockman who does the show with me says when he comes on We got to stop the show. I'm like but we're on the radio like what are we gonna do and this is again another You know philosophy that I've I've learned through the years is You know A good idea shouldn't be just discarded because you don't agree with it. Okay, so I'm like he's like We got it. We got to do it. Yeah, like when he's on We got to stop what we're talking about and talk about his show and I'm like, but we can't show it. It's radio He was right. We stopped I got out of my host chair and I went right behind chris and so I could see it on the tv And I did the play-by-play of him playing the game master key He didn't take the middle key. He blew it mad. It's a very rare. It's a rare pricing game anyway, but I've told you my my price is right, you know Experience here and I think I'm I've proven my worth in loving this program more than anything else So my wife and I are big dog rescue people. Okay. She got invited to a dog rescue fundraiser one year And the guy who was being honored was bob barker Love it. Okay. Now this is There's that's not even saying properly, right fair enough. I mean so he he's an icon in many different ways many different ways Especially one, you know, somebody who just shows up all gray haired out of the blue one day that was wild But anyway, so he he was the honoree that night and I went up to him It was probably like the mid-aut so I was on nfl network for a few years and I'll go always go up to people who I love their work Or I appreciate their work as long as they're not eating or peeing. I will I will disturb them. Okay Okay, and just tell them to their face. I appreciate you. Thank you. So I did that to bob But I I mean I just lost it. I just said to my And plus I'll also roll the dice. Maybe they know me. Maybe they don't if they don't, you know, I'm not heartbroken But if they know then then obviously it's easier to to make the entree. Yeah, I go up to him. He has no idea why And and and I just say don't look I'm I'm the host of nfl network On a show called nfl total access and I speak to players all the time from all walks I've speak to players and football players and coaches and general managers and and hall from all walks of life Hall of famers and rookies. I speak to them from all different places in america and I think to myself whenever I I interview these people I think of you in the way you Bring people in to You know contestants row. It doesn't matter who they're from it doesn't matter their race color or creed You welcome them all And I see how you do it and I I try to do that every day So thank you. He pauses and he looks at me he goes, so You want to hug it out? And I say as a matter of fact, yes I Do And I hugged him. I embraced him. I might have lingered. Yeah, I don't care. It doesn't matter So that's my way of buttoning up. Yeah, do you want to hug it out? Let's hug it out We're hugging oh for those listening We're hugging elegant. You're almost as elegant of a hugger as you are a walker sure. Thank you, sir I appreciate that I can't tell you what to honor. This is good. It's been a blast So how do we arrange this like do I do we exchange numbers and then I yeah you want to do it right now I mean, we don't we don't have to do like literally right now But we could change numbers so I can reach out to you personally and say I'd like you on Hey, remember and then and you're like new phone who this So what are you talking about? Sorry? Yeah, I don't know what this number is So that if we could do that and I'm not saying that you have to do it the first time I ask You know, like I understand you got stuff going on You know at this point I will follow you into the gates of hell. I'm pretty sure I'm so fantastic. All right, very good. We'll do that. Thanks for having me on brother Thank you, ritches. You guys have been such an honor and uh right back at you. All righty. See you soon Welcome to the new heights post interview interview brought to you by accelerator active energy drink What did you see in that conversation about rich eyes and You know rich eyes and as we thought he was Rich eyes and as we thought he was I've been watching him a whole life. It's fucking bullshit ESPN Sports center walks in here all elegant like he's not a professional. He's the head of the NFL network Rich eyes and as who we thought he was That's what I took the damn interview now you want to crown him Go crowd his ass But rich eyes and as who we thought he was And we let him off the show Are you gonna pair any different for the next one? I'm just gonna drink uh this accelerator energy drink It's got uh zero sugar natural caffeine Sustained energy plant based thermogenics be ready to go You can find accelerator at target alberts and safeway quick trip and hivy all righty Well, that was a rich eyes and interview. That's just what you think. I love that dude, man Yeah, he's the best he is just the absolute best and he definitely took it over he it was his show The trip entire it was the end of the trip. It was the end of the trip. He was the end of the trip He was so elegant. It was so elegant from the moment he walked through the door I was like who what is this presence that is coming at me right now and he did not disappoint Um, what was your favorite part? I would say uh Honestly, it was um Probably him saying that uh s&l was a flex. I thought that was cool. It was obviously why it wasn't there Um, but um, I'm pissed that I missed the opportunity to have rich come on my show because i've been on his show so many times Man, and I'll go on his show anytime he asked me to because I absolutely Love uh love chopping it up with him like you guys did but um What was really cool was him talk about the the 40 at the combine and uh, how much money they've raised and not they're just you know the fact that the uh He does it for charity gear in year out and um really that the time started to get better But I don't know if it's gonna get any better Shout out to rich man prove me wrong rich he did talk about how uh Jason you have to start doing stand-up now, which is um, which is kind of pretty spot on to to what you like because we Watch stand-up all the time growing up definitely in college. I feel like there was a comedy central did a friday night stand-up like Just run of like stand-ups all night and i'm We love the comedy center presents all that stuff and we would uh, we would always hit it Yeah, I think you know the interview is awesome. It was great to hear all the combine stuff the history behind it the 40 I think the thing that really uh was new to me One of the newest things that I heard throughout the whole thing was that rich started as a stand-up comedian at michigan And I think um, I've always been interested in trying it. Uh, maybe that'll be one of our uh get out the house Segments this year me and you let's dive in it. Let's do it. Let's dive in baby See how we do no more than 10 minutes though No more than 10 minutes. I want to I want to turn to a jackass on stage. I just want to be funny And I don't know how I'm going to react to people not laughing at my jokes So I'm gonna keep it right there at 10 minutes and uh, let's have some fun with it. I'm down Let's see what we can uh, see what we can come up with. I'd love going out to la and uh Going to the comedy store in the laugh factory All the fun uh stand-up spots out there where you'll literally see anybody walk through the door You actually know stand-up comedians. So I don't want you Having 100 Only original content only original comments. I won't don't be having santino right down any jokes for you And just santino baby. That's my dog right there He'll be I'll just I'll just ask him for a few of his that he hasn't said yet See this is he'll let me get him. Santino. Don't do this. He'll probably he'll probably do Fuck off if santino's writing your jokes. I'm getting Bobby leader right my jokes I mean, all right deal. I don't know you Bobby. Yeah. I just saw Bobby lee out there ready killed it I think uh, he's one of my favorites too mad tv man classics joe burrow you uh You admitted that he tried to recruit joe burrow to the university of santanati I did santanati reached out to me. Um, they said hey where we there's this kid oh how state he's transfer Oh, I guess I already just told the story. So I don't need to read tell the story. Yeah, but yeah, no That's a it's a real story. They reached out to me. Try to get me to recruit him Uh, best decision joe ever made with lsu and uh Menezo, what a mana national champion. Jeff found his way back But he couldn't escape the 513 he could not escape since an adi They came with calling Shout out to joe be for being a hilestud. Yeah. No, that was a fun ass interview obviously we got all the love in the world for rich rich and um We've uh, we've had a lot of love for him over the years man and more power to him moving on Yep, glad uh, we were finally able to get you on the show rich and be uh, obviously I did a call in last week, but I cannot wait to uh, make an appearance on the rich eyes and show as you alluded to multiple times in our interview Uh, so thanks for that and uh, yeah, I think that wraps it up. That's it Another episode of new heights is in the books. She's like Thank you so much to rich eyes and for coming on the pod And uh, sitting down with me. 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