Jason’s Coming Back, Rodgers Decision & Nick Sirianni | New Heights | Ep 31

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Well, not technically it will be by tomorrow when deals start to become official. Right now we're still in the tampering period. And yeah, it's pretty crazy. Deals are happening left and right. We're trying to do this lead-in to the Nick Sieriani episode we got launching right now. Nick Sieriani? Yeah, that's right. Head coach of Philadelphia Eagles? Head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. We talked to him. We left the house and sat down in Indianapolis at the Combine. And we talked to Nick Sieriani and that's coming to you in this episode. But first, we're going to get to all the news that's happening around the league. Lots of guys, lots of big names signing. Friends of ours going. New friends coming. And I mean, I guess we got to talk about me deciding to play another year. You are playing? Yeah. When did you? So anyways, we're going to touch on all that. So I hope you guys are in store for an outstanding episode. We're looking forward to giving it to you. And as always, thanks for supporting. But first, as always, new news. New news coming at you. We are back to top five in sports podcast on Indianapolis. Top five. It's good to be back. It's good to be back. And the 92% are not disappointed. It's fun to be back out here doing these podcasts. It's fun to keep talking with my brother. And Travis, you want to hit him up with the new merch? New merch, baby. We got some new merch. We talked to you guys last week about the homage launching Stamp of the Week and No Dumb Questions. I have those shirts in hand as we speak. Ooh, that's a nice blue. And this is like almost like a Seattle blue and green. Oh, I like that. I like that. That's the stamp right there. If I've ever seen it, then we got a little no dumb questions. Just dumb people. Just dumb people. You already know. Give me that shirt right now. I know, right? I feel I feel real dumb right now. Take my money. Yeah, please visit homage.com slash new heights to check those out. And all the other fun shirts that homage is brought to life, man. I know my favorite is still that big, Eddie, man. Ooh, ooh. Ooh. I let that be getting. You don't want to see the Yeti. It has come to our attention that we have some non-sanctioned merch out there that we aren't. We are not mad at. We're not mad at you guys are pretty clever. On our Reddit page, on the new heights Reddit page, always with the opinion came to us with a t-shirt that says Jason in the streets and Travis in the sheets. Oh, all right now. All right now. I think it's clear what the shirt means Travis in the sheets. I think that that's clear. You think that's what I'm curious about is what is Jason in the street? What do they want me in the street? What streets as we talk about? What streets are we? Yeah. It's not good to be in the streets. You can hit by a car. Are we like, no, man. This is a busy street or a. You're too loose. You got too much awareness for that. You got too much awareness for that. Block parties, bangers. I haven't had a block party forever. Man, that'd be a banger. I don't really like to leave my house. I don't know if you're going to catch me in the streets. That's what I'm saying. It might be the other way around. You got three baby girls. You got kids. You'll be in them sheets. I do. You'll be in them sheets. I think this is like more of like a desirable thing. I think that that's what the shirt is going at. Like they want to see you in the streets more? I really just think that they needed to put me in the shirt and they figured out a rhyme and they're just it's a shirt about having Travis in the sheets. That's what shirts are. It's not even. It's not even. It's a new place logo on it. The position tight end man. It's all fitting. But I'm out here in the streets now. I'm outside. You're in the streets and in the sheets. I'll tell you what, it better be like a cold. If I'm going to be in the sheets, it better be like the temp, the room temp's got to be like 55. If I'm being some sheets because I'm going to get way too hot and then that's just not going to be a situation anybody wants to be a part of. Yeah, nobody wants to be too hot. Just sweaty, sweaty yeti comes out. You said the temp on 50. Where do you, you said the temp away? In my house. I've been out. What do you said? I do say it. You have kids so you can't I guess. I know. I know. Unfortunately, Callie doesn't, she thinks that kids need to be like warm or something like that. I don't think that's true. But I would tell the girl. It would be a breezy 65 all day. That's where the house would be. A breezy 65. Nice. Yeah, windows open 65. Probably terrible energy efficiency. Yeah, Jason in the, it's really should be Travis in the streets, Travis in the sheets, Jason in the seats because I'm sitting and I watch it. That's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you to everybody all the 92% on our Reddit page and some of the non sanctioned merch that we appreciate. So keep coming up with the clever stuff. And I'm sure our team won't tell you you can't do that. Yeah. So, yeah. We're not, we're not a big cease and desist. We're not a big cease and desist crew, you know, we encourage creativity. We encourage our artists and speaking of creativity, we got a fan mentioned of the week right now. A fan comment of the week. Awesome comment on the YouTube video from earlier this week from the Daniel Jeremiah episode. This one is coming at you from Sarah Kaplan who said, Jason, can you please sort NFL players into Hogwarts houses? And I love this. And I think we're going to do it right now. Travis, are you aware? Can you name the different Hogwarts houses? Um, yeah. One is, don't read it. Pick your eyes up. One is do not read it. Is Hogwarts not a house? I thought Hogwarts was a house Hogwarts is the school. Oh, well, there you go. That's good. I mean, that's a good starting point. So then which house is Harry Potter in? Harry Potter is in the magic house. He's got the, he's got the wand and he does the magic. Oh gosh, this is good. How far off am I? You're not even in the ballpark, but you're in the school. What? You're in the school. So what school does he go to? He goes to Hogwarts. But you remember, you remember? Yeah, you know how at Cleveland Heights, they had that small schools initiative. Small schools. And there were small schools within the big school. That's kind of like Hogwarts is. There's four different houses that are within Hogwarts. You have Gryffindor, you have Hufflepuff, you have Ravenclaw, and you have Slytherin. Okay. And I don't know how the actual like determination of which house you get into goes. But to me, it gets down to Gryffindor is like good people with ambition. Like good people that are trying to fight for goodness. And you have Slytherin, which is bad people with ambition. Okay, which is like, you know, it's bad people that are excited about being bad. And then you got Ravenclaw, which is really, that's really smart people. That's the AP class, AP house. And then you got Hufflepuff, which I think that's just all the leftover kids go to Hufflepuff. So all the misfits, all the misfits. I think it's just people with no ambition go to Hufflepuff. That's how I do it. So we just are here kicking it. Yeah, I mean, well, they're good people, but they're, they're Hufflepuffs. This is a, this segment just got so much fucking fun. All right. So do you want to go down to list the players? Just start throwing names at me. Let's see how it happens. Jason Kelsey, where's Jason Kelsey? I mean, I'm going to put myself in Gryffindor. Come on, baby. What? You can't just put yourself in the best house. Is that where that's where Harry was? Harry, Ron, Hermyone, all of Ron. Right. Do I get in Gryffindor? I'd put you in Gryffindor. You're in Gryffindor for sure. I feel like if you're not in Gryffindor, you kind of. Ravenclaw, I mean, Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff are very respectable houses, but Gryffindor is like, yeah. Jalen Hertz. Gryffindor. We can't put everyone in Gryffindor, Jason. I mean, if you're going to throw a Jalen Hertz at me, I'll put them in Gryffindor. All right. Chris Long. Chris Long? Gryffindor. Everybody's in Gryffindor. You're asking me all NFL players? Who doesn't Jason know? Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins, Ravenclaw. Ravenclaw. Ravenclaw. Smart. All right. All right. What about Patty Mahomes? Patty Mahomes, man. I want to throw him in Slytherin because he just whooped our ass in the Super Bowl, but I got to say I do think Patty Mahomes is a Gryffindor guy. He doesn't get excited about, yeah. I think he's a good guy with ambition, so I'm going Gryffindor. All right. Aaron Rodgers. Oh my gosh. Don't throw this out right now. That's too newsy. There's too much going on with Aaron. Ever since he's got the long hair though, like the John Wick look, it's kind of gave him a little cloud. Like he's kind of like the, like he's excited about. I don't want to come in the enemy. I'm leaving Aaron off. I'm deferring on Aaron. That's not a part of this segment. You have to say the house Slytherin. He's in Slytherin. Wow, he said it. Fucking God damn it. I don't even know what Slytherin is. All right. Since we're on the Slytherin train, what about Joey Burrow? Joey Burrow? Yeah. Yeah. Do you know enough about him? Yeah. I mean, I'm so he's Ohio guy. He's kind of has this like, you know, very charismatic way to him. I mean, if you're asking quarterbacks, quarterbacks are going, Gryffindor or Slytherin all day, and I'm going to put Burrow and Gryffindor for you. He's probably in Slytherin. To cheese fans, he's a Slytherin guy. You already know. Burrow heads. Man, dude. Very respected. You got a whole stadium named after you. That's crazy, man. Brandy Graham. Brandy Gryffindor. Stop asking me my team. Why? Brandy Graham is 1000% Slytherin. No. Is that Slytherin guy? What? No. How much shit he talks? All right. All right. What about Russell Wilson? Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson. Man. God, he was in Gryffindor forever. And then I think I think he's in Slytherin now. I think he's in Slytherin. Slytherin? I thought I was thinking he was like a Hufflepuff. Like he's. I mean, he's yeah. You know what? I'll do that. I'll go Hufflepuff. No, if you're quarterback, you got to be Gryffindor. I don't even know what I'm talking about. I'm going Slytherin. He's you're going Slytherin. All right. Jimmy G. Jimmy G Slytherin. Jimmy Garoppolo. Slytherin. He was a porn. Yeah. He's got like videos of porn stars going out to restaurants and stuff like that. Oh, easy. Easy. He doesn't make it a bad guy. It doesn't make it a bad person, but it's a Slytherin move. It's not a Gryffindor move. Your quarterback, you either Gryffindor or Slytherin. You put Kirk Cousins in Ravenclaw. He's an outlier. Outlier? Yeah. Ask me a coach. Oh, Bill Belichick. Oh, Slytherin all day. Slytherin? Slytherin all day. Super talented, very intelligent, but like Slytherin. What about Derek the King Henry? Derek Henry? Yes. That's a Gryffindor guy right there. The Gryffindor right, but he's kind of got that. He's got that. I'm going Gryffindor in the air can. All right. It's in Damakasu. Oh, Slytherin. I just played with him. Great guy. Great guy, but he's. Great guy. He's Slytherin. Slytherin. He's, he's, because you got good people within Slytherin, but there's like a certain mentality that Slytherin comes with and it's like this like, it's a defensive mentality. It's a, yeah, I'm enough. You know. Dude, that's, you have that mentality. I know. I could be Slytherin. I could definitely be Slytherin. There's 100%. If I wasn't so good, I'd be in Slytherin. I fit a lot of the qualities. I'm a team guy. Well, team got Slytherin's team too. Death eaters are a big team. What about a, what about a guy like Tony Romo? What was Tony Romo? Slytherin. I mean, anybody on the Cowboys just lives. If you play for the Eagles, if you play for the Cowboys, you're Slytherin. This is turned into just whoever's your like enemy is Slytherin. I mean, that's essentially what the book is. Yeah. All right. What about Jerry Jones? Shout out to Jerry Jones. Shout out to Trevor Snape. Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones. Like, is he like the head of Slytherin? Who's the head of Slytherin? Who's the head of Tom Riddle? Tom Riddle's the head of Tom Riddle is Lord Voldemort, one and the same. Yeah. Jerry Jones is for sure Slytherin. He's Lord Voldemort. He's probably got Horcruxes scattered all through the United States. Jason Garrett being one of them. I don't even know what a Horcrux is. Am I speaking like a different language to you right now? Do you even understand this? Dude, all this is way over my head with the Horcrux. Well, a Horcrux is when somebody separates their soul and they put their soul into another object or person. You see what I'm saying? You see where we're going in this? It makes sense now, right? That is fucking hilarious. It makes sense, right? I'll talk about my way a little from my head. Dude, that is pretty fucking good right there. I think that's enough. I think we've covered a good amount of what Sarah was kind of asking us to do. If you guys have any other people to add to certain houses or if you disagree or agree with me, you know, I'd love to talk to you. Let's hear it. Harry Potter universe. So yeah, man, only thing I know about Harry Potter is that Disney has a has a really good roller coaster. Yeah, it's it's not even a Disney really good Harry Potter is part of Universal Studios. It's not part of Disney World. It's not all it's not all called Disney World. 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I think we've stalled long enough, but we are moving on to 10 or 12 or kind of in that realm ish bold topics where we recap this week. We're going to recap NFL free agency so far. And let's start with all the free agency news in the football world. And we all have been waiting for Jason Kelsey to tell everybody exactly what he's doing for next year. And I think you owe it to your team. I think you owe it to your teammates to make this decision right here right now so that they know what they have to do in free agency coming up. What are you talking about? What do you mean? I have to tell what about free agency? You have to break the news here on new heights. Travis, I announced I was playing another year yesterday. What are you talking about? What? You're playing? This is the biggest news of the week who cares about Aaron Rodgers when you got Jason Kelsey coming back for another year. Whoa. Did you. This is a lecture. You still figure out Sarah. I'm so fucking pumped. I am so pumped. Professional actor right now. All right. You called my bluff. Everybody knows you're coming back. You tweeted out. I have put much thought into whether it makes sense to play another season after talking it over with my wife and many other friends and family. You didn't ask me what I thought but I'll keep going. I have decided to return for another year. Thank you to all my supporters and detractors. That was a long one. I didn't ever even heard of that for fueling me. I ain't fucking done yet. With an exclamation point. I love it, man. You fired up the entire football world. ESPN was tweeting it and a fell was tweeting it. Everybody was on top of it, man. Biggest news of the most season. Congrats, brother. Thank you. What a mega splash. We don't make a cannonball splash. You're a more mechanical opener guy. You're a more mechanical opener guy. I had a good can opener back in the four sales part or cane part. I was about to say there's no cooler. Cool. It's the cooler. I didn't retire again. That's pretty much the news. I'm still playing football. I wish it wasn't news to be honest with you. It's just something that I really think I go back and forth on. I think it's important to actually think about this seriously because as you know, Traev, there's a lot that goes into playing a season. It's not just the physical part. It's the mental part. It's everything that it encumbers. I try to think about it as hard as I can. Obviously playing in the Super Bowl is a little bit less time to think about it than I normally have. But it was important to make a decision before free agency started or at least let the Eagles before free agency started know that I was confident in coming back another year. Obviously there's money to be spent. There's deals to be made. I want to make sure that Philadelphia has a full... I want to make sure that they're in the best position possible because obviously I'm coming back because I want to win. Obviously I'm coming back because Jalen Hurts is there. We have a lot of good people around the building and I feel really confident in our coaches and team. The fun time to be an Eagle, man. You hear that? Ladies and gentlemen, selflessness. He wants to make sure that the Eagles have the best opportunity. But also... I also... You got to make that bread. You got to make that bread. The bread's good. I'm not going to lie. The bread's good. But I got a lot of bread already in the basket. This is like unlimited bread at this point. Unlimited breadsticks over at... Mr. Unlimited. I shouldn't say that. That's a good way to go broke. Just thinking of your money like that. Listen, I think after thinking about a lot with Kylie, the biggest thing... I think she said it really well. If you're still thinking about this and you're going back and forth and you're wondering, if you have any doubt that you're going to want that you're going to regret playing, you should keep playing because clearly that's what I want to do. My body's banged up from the season. I just got done with a really long one. Right now it's hard to imagine doing it again. Once a full off season gets underway, once I have a chance to recover and work myself back up to being in the best shape possible, I think it became clear when she kind of said that. She was like, you know what? If you're still doubting yourself and going back and forth this long, you still want to play. Yeah, Kylie. Way to bring him back, Kylie. And that's some good life advice right there. If you're juggling it. Yeah, those also... Last thing you want to do is... Howard Mudd gave me really good advice. Which is essentially the same thing just kind of summarized way different, which is when in doubt, don't. As I Howard, I don't know, I have doubt about a lot of things. Like, when do I... Which... Like how do I look at the thing? But that's why it's a great saying because it works no matter how you look at it. Well, a guy, bros. What a guy. Well, I know we're all pumped. And yeah. I know we're all pumped to see you come back, brother. Let's jump into some more stuff. Who did you... Actually, who did you call up someone from the Eagles or did everybody just find out via Twitter? So contacted my agent, JB, Jason Bernstein. And I think him and how he had been in contacts and going back and forth. And they had talked already that day. And I was like, well, I think, you know, I feel confident in saying that I'm going to come back for another year at this point. And then talked to Howie soon there right after that. Him and JB talked. And, you know, that's kind of how it happens. Once it's mutually, you know, wanted, right. And the Eagles have been very upfront saying they wanted me back the whole time. So talk to Howie, talk to Nick, you know, kind of make the calls. Everybody's excited you're coming back and kind of go from there. Well, we know the best setter in the league is going back to the Philadelphia Eagles. I love you, Crete. I love you, Crete. I love you, Crete. All right. Well, then we'll get another clean cut at it. Well, we know that the best setter in the NFC is going back to the Eagles. But the Eagles did lose some key pieces to the defense so far. Added a few guys, added a few guys as well as lost a few guys. But Javan Hargrave, four years, 84-mill. He was an absolute beast for you guys last year. Yeah. And he got paid. Got paid by money. He deserves it. Happy for my man, grave digger. Javan's one of the hardest guys I've ever had to block, especially from a past blocking standpoint. This is a huge acquisition by the 49ers. Him, Armstead, I mean, they got, they are stacked all over defense. You know, it was already a tough game against them last year and Javan's not going to make it any easier. So that's a tough one because obviously, you know, that's, you know, the 49ers. That's a big rival of ours right now. You just got to be game for us. They got better again. I don't know how they did. There's other moves they've made. Yeah. They're not slowing down. So Javan's going to help them out big time. So you guys lost a. Congrats, Javan. Interior D line and then interior second level TJ Edwards linebacker for you guys is on a three year deal with the Bears. Make a some moolah over there. He's staying in the, staying in the NFC too. Happy for TJ. TJ's been a really big part. He had a great year last year and he's been a guy that you've seen get better every single year. You've seen that improvement. He's a smart player. He's instinctive. You know, I think that he was a guy that, you know, you know, when you're like playing certain guys early in the career and you can just tell that they get it like they react to things well. They go field for the game. Go field for the game. He has great feel for the game of football. Yeah. And I think he's, you know, obviously would have loved to have him back in Philadelphia, but TJ's going to do great over there in Chicago. Big deal for him. And you know, this is a guy that I mean, you love when guys come where he's come from. Take a name for themselves and get the big payday. This is the best part of free agency for me is watching guys that earn their money. Went out there, took the licks, you know, got better, made a name for themselves and now they're going to have a life changing amount of money throwing at them. So really, really happy for TJ Edwards. Set out the TJ Eagles bringing back Brandon Graham though for another year. You and B.G. You guys are like the two staples right now, man. You guys are like Philly's pride and Joe, man. There's been, you know, obviously me and B.G. Lane Johnson and there's still one guy out there. Big Fletcher Cox. I'm all Fletch. Well, I never tell anybody to do with their money. But obviously, you know, all four of us from this year played together for over a decade in Philadelphia. So it's rare to play with that. Many guys for that long. That means you got to be doing something right if you're going to last that long. Heck yeah. And Brandon's been the leader. He's the most tenured guy, not only on the Eagles, but in all the Philadelphia sports. He's going on his 14th season with the Philadelphia Eagles. Damn. I did not know that. Well, this year, I mean knock on wood. If he starts, think eight games or something like that, maybe less, maybe six. He'll have the all time record for most games played by Philadelphia Eagles. The past David acres. Let's go dog. I know. That's pretty, that's pretty freaking cool to have on the resume, man. Really excited. Especially one team. Especially one team. And he's just a great, he's a great teammate. You know, obviously Griffin door guy, you know, just a really, really good dude. I feel, I feel like a nerd just understanding what you're saying. Listen, there's nothing wrong being a nerd. Are you, are you not? I'm a nerd about football for sure. Are you nerdophobic? What do you don't like nerds? No, I love, I love being a nerd. That's why you see it's making me smile. Yeah. Brandon tweeted out, it wasn't about the money. I haven't officially signed yet, but it's pretty much done. I'm coming back. It wasn't about the money. I love Philly. I don't want to miss a championship with Jalen. Jalen is the man. Love nothing about Jason though. Nothing. Yeah. Jason in here. I mean, let's be honest. I know, I know he cares about you, right? He likes you. No, I mean, listen, me and BG got a lot of love for each other. I ain't going to win as a championship. Jalen's going to be up there. Maybe I'm Hufflepuff. Maybe that's why I'm Hufflepuff. I don't even fucking know. Eagles re-signing running back, Boston Scott to a one year deal. Big deal for us. Boston's a big, I mean, like he's kind of like that utility knife for us. And he's just whenever he gets an opportunity, he finds a way to make the most of it. Not the tallest guy, but he's going to go in there. He's going to be accountable. He's going to do everything he can. And he just makes plays, especially as the giant killer, Boston Scott back in the building. Boston's one of those guys, man. You just get him in space with one on one with a guy. He's going to find a way to make that first guy miss. And that's such a key part of being a running back is being able to make that one guy miss. If you can do that, I mean, you are going to be a freaking star or you're definitely going to keep getting contracts in the NFL. We can block most of them. You just got to make one guy miss. Hey, how about this? Working news, the Eagles are at work again. We have officially resigned James Bradbury. Oh, Bradbury. Drew, you Smith Schuster's favorite guy. We've resigned them three year deal worth 38 million with upside to get the 44 20 million guaranteed. That's how I mean, that's a half speed number, bud. Yeah, it's a hefty number. Shout out to Bradbury, man. I thought he was a great, great player. We played him. Yeah, I'm, uh, I'm excited about it. Not only is a good player, but just a great teammate, good dude all around, had a great year for us was a big reason why we had so much success on defense. Um, yeah. So yeah, I'm big on smart, I'm big on smart football players, man. You could tell he's a, he's a physical specimen too. Like he's, he's a big corner. He is. Long arms. Fast dude. Um, but yeah, I'm going to be on smart football players, man. You got to be a smart football player out there and he's, uh, he's got, he's full package, uh, corner back in the league, man. So happy for you guys defensively keeping, uh, at least some of your guys. Yeah, man. Um, really happy for James. He's earned every penny of that. Um, he's played. So yeah. Awesome for the Eagles. Way to go. Howie. There we go. Howie. This guy's, this guy's making moves, man. This guy's making moves. Get this tequila ready. The keyless coming. James, get ready for tequila shots. Apparently everybody's doing it. Is that a, instead of saying tequila, you just gotta. Tequila, tequila, tequila. You guys are, no, because tequila. Tequila. Tequila. Tequila. Classic songs. Make me want to go. You just can't help but say tequila and move your shoulders like this. When you move your shoulders like this, are you moving your shoulders? Are you going with your shoes? That's how I run routes. You can't get lost. But when you're doing this right now, are you, are you moving your shoulders? Or are you butt-cheeking it? Because I'm butt-cheeking. All traps. All traps. Oh, okay. Thank you. Big news in Kansas City, we just signed left tackle, Joanne Taylor. So a four year, 80 million dollar deal. Big money coming in to protect Pat Holmes. Yeah. I can't wait to get the big guy in the building. Yeah. I mean, he was a stud in Jacksonville. Can't say he wasn't. He was absolutely down. Often the guy was already good out there in KC and this is a big move. Oh my gosh. Big move, man. Big move, baby. Get him in the building. Get him in the building. Get him situated. Ugh. Giants are sending the third round pick to Las Vegas for Darren Waller. Do you wall? What's this? Street? The giant smell? That's a big move. Darren Waller is officially in Slytherin. He just, he was already with the Raiders. So he might have been there. He was in Slytherin for you? No, he's just a Slytherin guy. I'm going to say he's a Gryffindor, man. That guy, he's a dog. He's got great ambition. Good person. Good soul. Yeah, that's wild. Vegas to New York. I wasn't expecting that. I'm actually, yeah, no. I was trying to think they have a young tight end out there in Bellinger. That'll be an interesting duo they got. It's pretty cool. They used a lot of 12. It's always a mismatch. 12% of anything. What was a good person now? I think it's an interesting, do you go base? Do you go nickel? You know, who you matching up on the... You got a good... Especially if you have a receiver like Darren Waller or Travis Kelsey where it's like... You want to play nickel, but if you put nickel out there, it might be a little bit hard to stop the run. If you got a good run game, that's where the 12 personnel is the best. You can run well out of 12 personnel because everything's based off of the run. You know what I mean? Yeah. I can flank. When you're worried about the run, when you're worried about the run, I can flank. That's how you do it. That's what play action is. It's flanking. The Raiders, this is arguably the most controversial addition in the entire free agency. The Raiders signed wide receiver Jacobi Myers to a three-year deal. What? Patriot Roulette. Was he a part of that? Was he a part of that? He's the one that threw a dart right to Chandler Jones's chest. He was the second lateral. He was the second lateral. Wow. This is... So the Raiders, the Raiders are signing the guy that won him the game. The guy who handed them the game. This is nuts. Two of three years, 33. So he's getting 11 a year. He's getting 11 a year. He's getting 11 a year. To the team he gave the game. Do you think this was agreed to before that game? This is crazy. You think McDaniel just went up to him? It's like Jacobi. I was signing the do a three-year deal. If you hand this one to us, do you think? He's like, how can I make this happen? I'll be right behind you. I know we just called this QB draw. To go over time. I got it. Chandler! Hey, man. Well, I mean, it is crazy coincidence at the very least. That's wild, man. That's wild. More power to him, though. Yeah. 21 Mill guaranteed. That's a lot of guaranteed money out there in Las Vegas, Nevada. That is. So go ahead and enjoy it, Jacobi. Go quick in Las Vegas, Nevada, too. Or you could double it. Yeah. That's how it goes quick. Thinking like that. Yeah. You can be stupid. Just don't be real stupid. You know what I mean? That's the deciding factor for me. I asked myself. Is this stupid? The majority of the shit I do is stupid, but you can't be real stupid. As soon as you're real stupid, that's... Let's just not be stupid. Let's be... What's the fun in that? It's no fun in not being stupid. That's what Stevie Bogus is. That was the best advice I ever got from Stevie Bogus, baby. Coach Bogus, all right. You can be stupid. You can be stupid. Just don't be real stupid. Real stupid. That's when you go to jail. Yeah. All right now. What's regular stupid? Regular stupid. No stupid is going to jail. What's regular stupid? Remember when you used to play Poop Dollar? We got it from Workaholics. Yeah. We play in that of Woody's Poop Dollar. Got yans to pick it up. He's sat at the Yansi. That was so funny. Oh, God. We got to bring that back. Poop Dollar was a... That was... See? That's stupid. You can be stupid. Just don't be real stupid. That is stupid. For those of you that don't know what Poop Dollar is, I'm pretty sure we got it from... I don't know if you need to explain. I think we'd need to explain it. Because Poop Dollar is when... We did just like if we found dog poop on the sidewalk. I don't remember actually like... I don't remember actually like... I don't think you used a piece of... Pooping. Like yeah, you don't use human poop. Maybe they did in Workaholics. But yeah, we didn't. We saw a turd on the sidewalk. I think we did more than a $1 bill. I think it was $5. It was like a $5 bill. So we made it like we're like, oh shit, $5. Yeah. You say how much the poop in the dollar bill or the $5 bill in this case. And then you just leave it on the sidewalk and you just watch people pick it up. And it's a lot of fun. And especially if you're drinking beers at a college bar and sitting out on the porch. The anticipation. You'd already... The moment somebody picks it up, of course, everyone yells... Poop Dollar! Poop Dollar! And as soon as the person realizes they pick up the money and there's pooping and you hear a whole bunch of jimokes screaming poop dollar from the balcony. Yeah. And when you see somebody walking down the street, they're like, oh my God, oh my God, here comes, here comes, here comes, here comes, here comes, here comes. I mean poop. Poop Dollar! Poop Dollar! Yeah. I mean, dude, it's the equivalent of catching like a big... A big bluefin tuna out on those big seats. It's city fishing. It's got a city fishing. We have big old Yancei Gates, big 6'9", 270 pound center for the Cincinnati Bearcats. That's my guy, man. Yancei was the best. Played high school A you ball with him with an absolute dog in the Big East. Ain't nothing wrong with getting got on poop dollar. How are you supposed to know? You just see a find on the ground. Sure enough, fish on. Yeah. Ah, nice. So as getting back to free agency day one, the biggest spenders so far. And free agency are the Denver Broncos. Man, they are spending a lot of money these past two years in the off season. They've been spending a blast year too. I think they were close. It was either them or Oakland. Oakland. It was either them or Vegas. It might have been the Chargers too. Chargers made some acquisitions. Anyways. Alright. The Broncos are already at 200, over 200 million. The Bears are roughly around 120 million. The Falcons are up there over 100 million. And the Niners Raiders and Chiefs are all right around 80 to 85 million. Already on the first day. The Niners got a good team. Where they got all this money from? See, they got young quarterback, man. Young quarterback. You haven't paid a quarterback yet. You're going to have some cap space. That's true. Chiefs, what do you buy you guys? You got to spend $80 million. You don't got a young quarterback? You got one of the highest paid quarterbacks. Yeah. We unfortunately, we would let a few guys slip out. Shout out to my dog, Frank Clark. So this is total money. This is the biggest spender so far. That's like the whole contract? Yeah. All the contracts. Yeah, but they didn't spend 80 million. You guys are spending 20 per year deal. Yeah, it's just what we get, what we earn. They're just adding up. Doesn't even matter. All the years. The number of years. This is a, that's a dumb metric. I'm a fan. So let's talk some Aaron Rodgers because it's so interesting and so fun to talk about. We're recording this on a Tuesday and free agency does start on Wednesday. So we could be talking to you about something that's already happened that we don't know about or that. What we do know is that Aaron Rodgers has provided the New York Jets with a list of free agents that he would like them to target and acquire. It's also known as a list of demands. He's provided the New York Jets with a list of demands. We're full blown hostage situation at this point. Hosted situation. I am the captain now. I need a briefcase with 300 million dollars with Odell Beckham in the briefcase. I mean, I get it. Listen, the Jets are stacked on defense. Their head coach is a defensive coach. Yeah. A hell of a. Here coming over there. It could be a match made in heaven. He just wants to make sure they got a target that he feels comfortable with. Yeah, they already, they got a bunch of young guys that they can play some ball now. Well, apparently they can't play ball good enough because Aaron saying he wants one of these guys. Aaron Rodgers has provided the New York Jets with a wish list of free agents who would like them to target and acquire. Per sources includes Randall Cobb, Allen Lazard, Mercedes Lewis and Odell Beckham Jr. Damn. And this just in the Jets have met the, uh, the wish list. They've met it. They have officially signed free agent wide receiver Allen Lazard to a four year, $44 million deal. With 22 million guaranteed. So breaking the bank. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if they folded or if they just like answered the bell, but the Jets are all in on the Rogers deal. We got a hostage situation. They're trying to keep, they're trying to keep all the hostages alive. Yeah. Hostess situation. You give us one. We give you one. You give us one and also come to play our quarterback. That's kind of where we're at. It's just did to see how that plays out. So is so they got, yes, Randall Cobb and Mercedes Lewis, both have been in green Bay with Aaron and Allen Lazard as well. And then the, the, the one that was just interesting was Odell Beckham Jr. He's like, yo, I want to go. I want to, I want to, who doesn't want Odell or man. Hey, listen, he looked like a beast. He looks strong, he looks strong and I think he on purposely caught every single ball with one hand just to, just to add some flair to it. At least that's the only thing without a shirt on to make sure he showed off how swol he is. He's sworn he's been working. Yeah. And he's got those Sequin quads, quads out too, man. Big man. Big man. Not right now. Yeah. The, the Aaron Rodgers situation is still up in the air as of this moment. So we're going to run through every Aaron Rodgers situation that might happen just so we have a touch it by tomorrow because who knows what is going to happen within the next hour. Here's the first bit of news. Rogers goes to the jets. Oh my gosh. This is changing. He really left green Bay. Joe Douglas pulls out the move of the century and lures. Aaron Rodgers is crazy. They said Allen Lazard to a big contract after Aaron clearly says sign Allen Lazard and all of a sudden he's in. He's in. That's pretty wild, man. Honestly, never thought I'd ever see Aaron leave, leave Green Bay. I thought he was one of those just matches that just went on forever and ever and ever. It's hard to find that. It's hard to find that. It seems like all these guys play like at least one year, someplace else almost. It's crazy. Didn't Brett Favre. Didn't he go to the jets too? Brett Favre went to the jets. Um, yeah. I don't know if anybody else with the jets, but Peyton Manning obviously went to the Broncos. Tom Brady went to the Bucks. He might go to Miami. Who the hell knows what's going to happen with Tom Brady? Yeah. No, no, no. I'm saying this is crazy that a green Bay legend gets traded to the jets. It's crazy. Yeah. The pretty sister to him goes to the exact same team. Yeah. That's the best bit of news that might happen with Aaron Rodgers. This just in Rogers is decided to stay with the Packers. What? He stayed after all this. I never would have thought he was going to say. Oh my gosh. After all this, I mean, there's this. There's so much conflict between them over the years. You would never expect them to still do it. It's hard. This whole time. And one place that long, it's hard to pull that trigger. As someone who just almost retired, it went in doubt. Don't. And he clearly had doubts. So he stayed in green Bay. He must have been thinking long and hard in that cabin. Dude. He just seems like one of those quarterbacks that just needs to go to a different place. But obviously he's happy where he is, man. What do you think that cabin smelled like that he was staying in that didn't have any electricity or running water or toilets? Oh, man. That's a good question. I don't even know. Probably sage. Probably sage. Right. It had to have like a mildewy. Milledewy. You know like wood that you don't. Yeah. Like whenever I'm in a cabin that like an outdoor like wooded structure, there's that like very almost like dewy smell. And it's just always there. And apparently it helps you decide where you want to go and free eating. All right. Next bit of news. This just in. Hey, Rogers goes to another team, not the Jets. What? That's not. I thought it was either green Bay or the Jets at this point. I can't even get excited for that. That's not. Who knew that Miami, the Dolphins, what? He went to the Dolphins. Who knew that Miami, Chicago, Houston. I mean, what other team can we pile on this Rams? 49ers. If he goes to the 49ers DC Washington, he went to Washington. Who knew? Who knew that all these teams were in on this Aaron Rogers deal? This is crazy, man. This just in Aaron Rogers decides to retire and start a podcast. What? Yeah, that's crazy. That's a genius move. Actually, this is the least crazy one. If we can create a podcast, this is successful. Imagine what Aaron Rogers could do. And he's probably going to make a lot more money than we are. Does that mean? Yes. Aaron, please don't do that. I'll do this. I'll do this for free, brother. I thought Aaron does Aaron Rogers Tuesdays on Pat McAfee show. Does that mean he doesn't stop doing it? You think that's where he got the he was like, yo, I'm liking this. I'm digging this. I'm having fun doing this. Yeah. I think that's, you know, once you start doing something and you like it and you're. I'm probably tuning in. I'm tuning in. I'm going to tune in Aaron. I'm freaking pumped about your new, your new career. Let's go baby. All right. Last Aaron Rogers, a potential headline that could launch between now and the tomorrow's episode launching is Rogers makes up his mind to come on the new heights number one sports podcast in the country and give a LeBron James decision like moment. What? Going to Miami. South Beach. I'm taking my talents to South Beach. Yeah. He's come on the show to announce that right now. I'll tell you what Packers fans, Packers fans don't do what Cleveland did because there's always a chance that he might come back. Yeah. Speaking of someone who was in Cleveland when LeBron did go and make that decision, I would not condone that happening on new heights. So we can just mix this. I'm not going to participate in that type of decision. I still got, I still got my original brand jersey. Everybody set theirs on fire. I still got mine. I never had, I had an Anderson bearish out Jersey and I lost it. You did have the 17 and D V. It was a, that was a sweet one too. The orange one. Yeah. I had a LeBron with two. I had the blue, blue and red calves Jersey that was rocking when LeBron was there the first time around. You know, talking about it was like a darker blue with like the red, like kind of like trim on the sides. The wine red. Yeah. Thank you. The wine red. It's nice. I don't know what happened to it. Different scenarios we think might happen before tomorrow. All electric scenarios. All possible. None of them can happen. I mean, we could be in the exact same position we're in right now. I feel like once somebody starts meeting a hostage takers demands, you just keep asking for stuff. You keep, yeah. Just keeps going. Oh, okay. Hey, let's see what else we can ask for. So who knows? Maybe, maybe, maybe Alan Lazard wasn't enough. We'll find out either way. I know this. I'm thoroughly excited to see what happens with this Aaron Rodgers situation because the dude's a baller. I mean, dude, he's one of the best of all time. Can't deny that. Whether he's in Green Bay, New York, someplace else are retired. Aaron Rodgers is still Aaron Rodgers. So this is exciting stuff. Twelve games. I know Jets Jake, the guy that runs our entire social platform is, I think he's just doing this over and over again on Twitter. Just refreshing. Waiting to see what happens. Uploads, he's just refreshing, refreshing, refreshing. Up, just announced Aaron Rodgers coming on the show tomorrow at 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Do you think he announces that he's, it's going to be the pad back of the Aaron Rodgers Show? I do. Well, no, no, no, I think he's going to announce his new orch jets on Pat McAfee. I think that's what's going on. What? He's going to the Jets? We already did this bit. We don't know. Yeah, but I like your enthusiasm. I was excited, man. And it will be electric news if it happens. It will be as is everything that comes out of the PMS show. Alright. Alright. New segment, getting out of the house. Get your ass out the house. This show has always stressed the importance of leaving the house to meet people and do fun things. And this week, Travis has got out the house. He's headed to a little event you might have heard of the Oscars. I've ever heard about it. Or maybe it has a big after party at the Oscars in Los Angeles. Yes, yes. They're going to. I was lucky enough to get the invite. I got the ticket and me and my two guys, Aaron and Jerry Eanes, AA management. We went up there and had a blast, man. Got to meet some folks out in Hollywood and it was crazy. Who'd you mean? I got to start knowing who people are in Hollywood because every face was the most familiar face that you've ever seen. And you're like, oh my God, that's an actor. That's an actress. That's this. That's that. And I was clueless. Felt really bad. The ones that I did know though, they started introducing me to a few people. The ones that I do remember saw D Wade up there. I'd already met him, but it was cool to talk to him about some of the stuff he's getting into. You still got to check out your wine. He's got a wine. He's been in the wine for five, five, seven years. Yes. So I still got to try that out. Where's it made? I would assume. Yeah, I assume his Napa. I don't think he's going overseas for it. I think he's keeping it right here in the States. You can make wine in the US outside of Napa Valley. Yeah. No, Seattle is a big. Yeah. That whole West Coast right there is big wine. I don't know if you're making great wine in the Midwest. But in Virginia, supposedly I think is a hotbed of wine. So is Martha's. I mean, you can make wine anywhere. Yeah. So there was D Wade. Who else? Elizabeth Banks. She was absolutely awesome. She had a sore throat or some sort of a horse throat or something. So she couldn't talk much, but she was fun to be around. She obviously doing cocaine bear coming out. I'm excited to see that. That story is absolutely insane. The fact that they made, what is it? Like a comedy horror out of it. That's, I'm interested. I think it's a thriller. I mean, it's, it's, let's, let's see. Okay. What can we do? What's the most fear? That's the animal that everyone is most afraid of being face to face with. A grizzly bear. Okay. How can we make this a more terrifying bear? Let's give him cocaine. That boy is going to be wired. You know this is based off of a like semi true story. I mean, I don't know. I didn't know that. Okay. Nope. I'm just looking forward to the sequel. There. Okay. Bear was the sequel. I'm just looking forward to the sequel. Meth Bear. Which is. Oh my God. Meth Bear. You thought cocaine bears intense just right until meth bears start running down your fucking house. If there's one thing that could take it down a cocaine bear, it's probably a mess. Human. So imagine a meth bear. Disstructable. Disstructable. Other than that, I went to the Vanity Fair and then I went to the Gold Party afterwards, which is I believe Jay Z's party got to meet Jay Z. Great dude. Nice. And throws an unbelievable party. It was electric in there. It's not a not a shocker. Not a shocker at all. But I did get pumped about it. Tracy Ellis Ross. Absolutely hysterical. Had me dying laughing. Did you meet Larry David? Had a nice. I did meet Larry David. That was like the first person I walked in the room, walked in the room shook that man's hand. Kirby enthusiasm. Seinfeld. I'm trying to get into this segment and I just can't do it. I'm like really trying to be excited about the Vanity Fair Oscar party. And I'm not going to lie. I couldn't do less fucks. I like couldn't give less fucks about the Vanity Fair Oscar party. Yeah. Until you're up for an Oscar and you go to the party and you meet a whole bunch of people and you're like, wow, these people are really nice. I'll tell you what, it wasn't like a club. You can have a conversation in there. It wasn't like, I mean music blaring. I'm sure it's a blast to go now. I bet it is. So why don't you want to go because you can't wear flip-flops? You probably would wear flip-flops. I would, I'm more, I would go. If it was convenient for me to go, if it was in New York and I got invited to something like this, I would go. Nice. So the Met Gala, we're in. Got you. I lied. I'm not going. What? Yeah. I don't, I don't like it. Saw my dog LeBron James. See? Could have met LeBron, man. Could have met LeBron with me, man. No, he's a absolutely a legend, Northeast Ohio legend, Midwest legend. But yeah, it was fun to kick it with him. Saw Draymond Green up there. There were some fun faces, man. They were everywhere. Draymond, again, I don't really know where to go with this. Well, you're killing it. If you're asking, no, I didn't invite anybody onto the show. I thought it was a little too much of a kick it environment. Didn't want to bring business into this thing. But LeBron, if you ever want to come on the show, man, would love to have you with Fion. Yeah, I know you're pretty busy with acting now, too. Big actor. House party. Yeah, I don't know. Jason's died into it. So now I'm not into it. So this just I just feel like the only reason we're talking about this is because like somebody put this in. Yeah, like I don't I'm trying to get into it, but it feels and I know that you went there. So I'm trying to let you talk about it. Yeah, no, that's cool. Thank you. I had to sit through an entire fucking Harry Potter fucking walkthrough. Okay, you can fucking get excited about getting out of the house, Jason. If you're genuinely. At least you know who I'm talking about. If you're genuinely excited about Vanity Fair, I will talk about it with you. But I feel like we're talking about this not because you want to talk about it. It's a new segment, Jason, because we're going to be getting out of the house this summer because I'm genuinely excited about Harry Potter. I feel like we're talking about this because somebody else wants to talk about it, which is making it difficult to talk about it. That's the only reason I'm saying this. I don't have anything to talk about. So there's really nothing there other than I got out of the house, which is the segment. I'm an asshole. I'm an asshole. This segment just became something fun. So thank you for being real about it, Jason. I deserve it. I think it's good. I think it's gold. Goddamn it. I think it's gold. You just made this segment something worth listening to, Jason. You just made it something worth listening to. Goddamn it. Triv, really happy that you were able to make it to the very beginning. Oh, my God. It's kind of a dickhead. No, seriously, it was an honor to go to the Vanity Fair after party. It was a blast. Even the gold party after that was even more fun. Not to see some of the coolest people in the entertainment world. Not just Hollywood, both sports and entertainment. I had absolute blast. And Jason, you should come with me next year. You'll have a different outlook on it. You'll have a different outlook on it. And he's wearing sandals. I saw Justin Bieber in there with a, he had a blanket on. She was sweet. I gave him, I was like, JB, you over there. Chilling, bro. And a blanket. He was over there kicking it, man. That's what I'm saying, man. He gets to meet some of the coolest of the coolest of the coolest. I mean, if there's anything we've established, I need to leave the house. I can't become a curmudgeon and just sit in my den. Mijin? Curr? I'm not even sure that that's a real word. Oh, man. I definitely was unsure. All right. Moving on. That's why we have this subject, this segment right here. This is exactly why we have this segment. It's because we need to get Jason more understanding of what he can do outside the house and the people that he can meet. So if we want to keep getting good guests, we got to keep meeting people, Jason. You got to keep the train run. Let's move on to, let's move on though. What we got? And that was getting out the house with Jason Kelsey. I don't fucking even know why we're talking about this shit. This doesn't make any sense. That was great, man. I loved everything. All right. All right. Well, it's time to get to the interview. It's time to get to the thing that we've been kind of leading and teasing this entire episode. Yeah. Got the interview with a head coach Nick Sirianni. What do you think about Nick Sirianni? And don't just crush me because I just crushed Panty Fair, please. Don't. I have nothing to crush you or Sirianni about, man. Obviously, great coach because of just how we can motivate guys, but let alone is his exes and those men. You guys are flawless when that thing's rolling. It's impressive to watch. And he's got a fun energy, man, like his energy on the sidelines. When everything's rolling, I have the image of him going into the camera. I think they're in the 49ers game or something where it's just like, oh, yeah. And I fucking love it, man. I think he was trying to, maybe. Maybe. He was one of the playoff games, though, but you could tell he gets into the games and he feels a part of all of it. And yeah. So I'm excited to check this one out, man. See what you guys were over there talking about. Well, I think you're going to enjoy it. Nick is a fun interview. He's a guy that wears a shirt on a sleeve. And we got into a lot of great topics, including, yeah, well, I'm not going to tease it because you're going to watch right now. Without further ado, head coach Nick Sirianni. All right. My guest right now is a three time national champion wide receiver out of Mountain Union College. He's only the third coach in franchise history to lead a team to the playoffs in his first year. And most recently in his second year, just the second year, led the Philadelphia Eagles to only their fourth appearance in a Super Bowl. My next guest is Nick Sirianni, head coach. Welcome to the number one sports podcast in the world. Thanks for having me. Very fittingly with the underdog apparel, my foundation, Bfili underdog. It fits good. I don't wear any other hats with this. You've told me that's your favorite hat. It's my favorite hat. And I do appreciate that. That's my favorite hat. I'm looking for, you know what else I'm looking for? Is black on black. Black on black? We can make that happen. Yeah. Can we do that? For you coach, anything. I appreciate that. So you are the king of wearing t-shirts. Like, and this is why I'm doing this because like, so Nick always wears some t-shirt theme of either one of his players. Yeah, sometimes, there we go. Slim Reaper. Slim Reaper right there. That's all. I think that's the only thing that I have anymore. You know what I'm saying? I don't even know where my other shirts are. You know, if you've lost them, I've lost them. I do the same thing. I misplace them all the time. I got about a million t-shirts of you guys. You had that Jalen one with the glasses. That one was super sick. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. But this is Nick's famous dog mentality, dog culture. So this is Zach's. Zach's. Zach's guy. Yeah. Zach's guy is the owner of that. Dog culture. That's right. And so he had them always in Indy. Got it. And then boom, you know, we had some in like we got that guy to order them and then Zach was so, you know, was with us not sure. And then and got us some more. Zach killed this because I love this hoodie. It's good. Cut off. Yeah, it's good. And being in Indy, home of Pat McAfee, who's always in the tank. He's always. I feel like I had to have the guns out. That's good. You know, I always, when I wear that one, I love that one. Yeah. I love it. But I'm not, I mean, I'm wearing my shirt underneath. And I'm not wearing just that anymore. Sure. But I got a couple shirts that go underneath that one, but that's a good one. All right. Well, you just finished your second year as an NFL head coach. What was different going out of your first year? Like how did you change? What did you learn? You know what? The biggest thing I felt like that changed was like I think when you're a coordinator or when you're a position coach, you can look and be like, all right, here's our, here's our, here's what we got. We got this team here. We got this team here. We got this team here. We got this team here. Cool. All right. We can, we can, we can win all four of those, you know, we can do that. That's what you think. Like I, I don't know why, but I felt like I fought a lot like that when I was a position coach or a coordinator. Okay. But like as a head coach, I felt like it was really important that I just was here, right? And just locked into just that day to get to the next day because I didn't want you guys thinking about that, you know? Yeah. And you're just thinking about the, just the next thing, you know, and sometimes in coaching, you got to prepare for the next week. I get that and all those different things. And you got to do more so of that when you're a position coach or a coordinator and you do the head coaching. So I just thought it was really important to just lock into the day. And that's where we, we talk about so much. Yeah. The next, the this day, this meeting, wrist one, one of the things. You're just finding out new ways to say don't think too far in advance. How many different ways? Yeah. How many different ways can we say that? And you thought, I mean, how many times do we say that? One of my favorite ways you've ever said it was the infamous roots quote where you compared the Eagles organization to a plant just growing its roots and we're just going to keep growing these things, getting better every single day. When you look back, you gave that speech. I think we were two and five or 21 and seven since that speech, which was crushed in Philadelphia. Me like most things. You know what I said? I said in Philadelphia was a flower and I did. I remember, I when I said to you, I said plant. Yeah. Or whatever reason, I'm like, I'm sitting there interviewing and I'm like, yeah, as a flower. Well, you wanted it to become a flower. Like a flower is a beautiful finished product. Right. And so I said, flower to them and it was like, no, a flower. Fans are funny. Some of the outfits like the flowers there. I mean, Philadelphia is very creative, but is it when you look back, like how real to that metaphor end up becoming though, you know, we grew all through the first year, we ended up making the playoffs after a bad start in two and five. You guys somehow kept that thing going, morphed it into what it needed to be and we ended the year really strong and then had the year that we had this year. Like it ended up being an unbelievable metaphor looking back. And it wasn't at all that was, it wasn't a metaphor because we had already put the work in. It's not like it's not like we said that, right? And everyone was like, yeah, yeah, it was just what we were doing. Yeah. I was just basically playing in the picture. You know, sometimes they asked me like, too, like, how did you get all these guys? To think about your message and be like, yeah, that's a good message. And first of all, I always say, you know, it's our players. Like our, we have unbelievable leaders and captains and people on this team. But also I'm not saying crazy things. I'm saying, Hey, if you connect, we're going to be better. If you compete, we're going to be better. Like, Oh, yeah. If we're, if you hold each other accountable, we're going to be better. Now we live those things every day. Yeah. But we all know though, those are common denominators of good team. We're going to be able to stay in the world. It's the same thing. We were doing all those things. Right. We were building foundation and everybody wants to find a, everyone wants it to pop as soon as it can. And all of us want to do that. But yeah, sometimes the roots need to grow and there were the foundation and the building needs to grow or whatever you want to compare it for everything to stay sturdy and stay rock solid as you continue to grow higher. Yeah. And finding ways to keep guys doing that. Yeah. Like you said, like finding new ways, like one of the things that is very underrated or not even known, I guess is I think your team meetings are unbelievable. The more we get accomplished in those meetings is more than I've probably had with, I think any other head coach, no offense to Doug Chipper and he read. But I appreciate that. The team meetings are one, you stay true to the messaging, right? But you find new ways that guys lock in to listen to it. But then also the coaching that happens in the team meetings, the film of good and bad, not in like a call out way. And just like, Hey, we're going to show when we do things right so that everybody knows, Hey, this is what we want you to do. We're going to show when things don't go bad so that guys can learn from that instead of just the guy that made the mistake. And then also just the coaching of situational football. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. I have a feeling if you just turn the TV off and on, it'll just pop back on. Every time something's fucked up, I can't fix shit. Dude, we joke about this. Everything technical or the running joke with the whole podcast is turning off. I'm plugging it on. I'm plugging it and plug it back in. We'll go through all these technical workshops and it all ultimately comes down to just turn it off. I have a great story. Okay. All right. So I'm like that all the time and every joke is always like, did you try turning it on? Is it plugged in? They're like, yeah, I go in every time I go. I'm out. Yeah. I don't know anything else. Yeah. And so our fireplace has been broken for six months. I love going home when it's cold out, turning the fireplace on, sitting in the couch, letting the heat just like I love that. Yeah. I've been saying, hey, my dad was here. I'm like, can you call the guy? Yeah. And my wife, can you call the guy? No one's done it. No one's done it. Like what are you doing? I'm cold. Yeah. I'm busy right now. And so we have this guy coming in to do our patio. I don't think he knows anything about fireplaces, but I'm like, hey, let's give a shot. He draws up the patio, how we want him. Hey, bro, do you know anything about fireplaces? He's like, yeah, let me look at it. So looking at you goes, hey, once the last time you change these batteries for the remote, I'm like, if it's the fucking batteries. So it comes through here. He's looking at it. He goes, change the batteries. Let's see what happens. Put four new AA batteries in. Instant fire. I was so mad. Like, because that's what that's my thing. That's how I fix it. Why do I feel like this is going to be a speech to the team in the future? So all of the speeches end up being real life scenarios. Listen, you know, things are going wrong. You don't know why you're having a bad game. Just turn off, turn off. Replace the batteries. We're on to the next play. I'm definitely doing it. I'm definitely doing it. It's 100%. It's just another way to say dog mentality. You're 100% right. Oh my God. You more than any coach I've ever been with are obsessed with situational football. Have you always been obsessed with it? Is that the job of the head coach or is that? Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I think it's a job of the head coach to present it and then everybody else to, you know, to echo it and get those coaching points. One thing I always say to the guys is going into that Saturday, situational Saturday walkthrough, right? Yeah. Is, you know, we have the meeting on Saturday and then walkthrough. I always say, hey, make sure position coaches, coordinators, echo the coaching points. Get one more opportunity to say down to no moss means this, you know, whatever. Just echo all those things. And so, but we're really, really where I became obsessed with it was in Kansas City. It was, they had a, we had a board like in training camp. Here's all the situations we need to get covered. And like, I guess when you hear like what that is important to Bill Parcells because Todd Haley worked with Bill Parcells, you kind of think to yourself like, oh shoot, you know, that Bill Parcells was obsessed with this. Cool. Here we go. What did he do? Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob. That's interesting because, because Belichick is renowned for being such and he was also a boss. Yeah. Maybe that's where it, maybe that's where it all started too. So that's, that's where the, the start of it came. And then I was kind of like, then we went to San Diego after that and, and we were kind of, and Coach McCoy was, was really big into that too. And I think Frank and I had a big part of, you know, thinking through all the situations. And it's just kind of grown every place I've been. Yeah. How many situations is there even a number? If you're each week, you guys bring up a new situation that you've finally, that you've learned by watching another team. And, and that's the beauty of growing, right? Cause there is, there's always something new that comes up that you're like, shoot, we didn't practice that. We haven't talked about that. Yeah. Great. Let's talk about it. We just got better. Like there's a, there's a cool feeling in that too of watching somebody, you know, do something and be like, wow, they did that really well or oh, they really messed that up. Right. And you say, we got to coach that. We got to do that. Now there's a fine line too of being like, well, knowing what's important because it kind of list can go like this and like just like plays can go like this. Well, what's important that we need to harness in on? I mean, how many times have we run heave ho? Yeah, not often. We've done well, we've walked through it every single week. Frank Reich used to say to me all the time, he's like, nobody, like every, every, every situational Saturday, cause we did the same thing. And he goes, nobody. And I mean, nobody practices heave ho more than you. And I, you know, and that was kind of became a joke with that. I'm like, well, shoot, if it comes up, it came up for the chiefs in this Super Bowl, when they played the Niners, they ran heave ho. Yeah. You know, they ran heave ho in that game. And so like, shoot, you know, it, it, who knows? Because who knows when they come up? That's the beauty of it. Like, I, you have to be like so in tune to the situation because you, you never know when it's going to come up. Well, and I like that you got, I feel like a lot of coaching staffs talk about that amongst themselves. But I really like about you, you talk about it in the team meeting. So like all the players end up becoming aware, not, you're not aware in every situation, but maybe your buddy and next user is, Hey, this is the, this is this situation. This is what play we're running right here. Or like, you know, I'm watching the Super Bowl and, you know, right after they got that, the penalty go to the first time, I'm like, we got to be in a labor right now. We got to let them score if we want any chance to win this. And sure enough, we pop it. We executed really well, but Jeremy can just a little bit, he's just too smart. He's really smart. He was a very unselfish player. And obviously very smart, but from their coaches, cause you know, they get that in. Yeah. No, my. And so, you know what? I felt like, shoot, we can be, and what if we were to practice that a little bit more? What if we would have done, like that's where, you know, how we are, we just, I'm always like, this is what I could have done better. What if we would have done a little bit better to get the guys a little closer? Like, we're going to tackle, we talked about it. Did we walk through it? Like, that's where I'm beating myself up. You know, like maybe we should have put that's in situational Saturday. I thought that they did a good job. They did a good job. Yeah, but you could just like, maybe a little bit more like just like dive and then Mrs. Leg on purpose. Yeah. Like, that's how my son does tackling and real tackling drills. You don't really want to get hit yet. Right. And so he'll come up and he'll take this angle on these angle tackling drills. I'm like, eat, eat, and close. And he'll swing the back part of his leg. I'm like, take a terrible angle at one full speed and just get the guy thinking about that. So maybe he forgets that he's supposed to go. I'm going to have Jacob Sierra and he come in and demonstrate what to do. This is, and demonstrate what to do. Just put on, just put on table. If we football, this is how we want you to do all that. Awful angle, terrible angle. Like every time I go to his practice, I'm telling you, I'm watching it and I'm like, you can just see right from me. I'm like, I'm going to be close. What are you going to get hit? And that's what his goal is right now. So he's actually accomplishing the goal he wants to accomplish. He really, secretly wants to. Let's get back to growing. So one of my favorite things outside of the roots speech, because I actually really like that was after your first press conference, you get killed by the city of Philadelphia, Angela, the tall, everybody. I like how you throw Angela. Yeah. We get through Angela out there talking crap about Ganon. So I'll throw Angela, but he's just retired. So he can't talk shit to me anyways. And I think a lot of people would do that. And you could respond. There could be multiple responses to that, whether you like, okay, now I don't want to do press conferences anymore or like fuck all these guys. No, I'm sorry, family show. All right. So fuck is off. We can't say fuck. You can. You can. We do it all the time, but we try to not to because there are kids that watch it, but you use it as a way for the team to notice that you're being accountable to getting better. You talked about, and one of my favorite team means, you do your second press conference and you practice and prepare even harder to make sure that you are better in your second press conference. And I think that that's an unbelievable message for a team to hear that like, hey, the head coach is trying to get better. And it's a very concrete example of trying to get improvement. And I think that that leads itself to players that being easy to be like, okay, if he's accountable and being real with himself to know where he needs to get better at, you know, I'm doing the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's part of leadership, right? Yeah. And that's why, you know, if I want the players on our team and the coaches on our team, and on our team to hold each other accountable, you got to hold myself accountable. And then think about why we have a good team. Like look at the leaders we have. And I'm saying you and, and Flatch and BG and Lane and Jalen and, and slay. And I'm just naming the captains and Jake, right? And, and you guys do that every day. And it, and it, and it trickles to the rest of the team. It becomes a culture. It becomes a culture. It's what you live every day, right? And so I think too many times I feel like we've all probably had coaches that too many times you felt like, I don't want to say it's, it's like, I'm, man, I don't want them to think I'm wrong. And I'm not going to say I'm wrong up there. But they're, we're all wrong. Yeah. We all make mistakes in that. And I think that's important that, that we, that we talk about them, right? It's because all this matters is, as we get better. And the other part of that message was, Hey, the second interview, I went in there and I crossed it. That was awesome. And I turned the radio on to listen to what they said and I still got to approach me. I mean, if it's Philadelphia, it's going to, you do have to tune it out a little bit until you want, even when you're doing really well, you still got to tune it out. He's still good. Because then they're going to love you. And it's like, listen, I got to realize I'm not what everyone thinks I am. Remember how many times you said that this train camp? Yeah. How many times did you say like, Hey, listen, I love the players that we're acquiring and that we have and look at practice, it's going unbelievable. We're working our ass off. Everything's coming together the way we need it to. But don't be, don't make it for one second that the names, you said this, I said this 10 times in training. But the names on this pace are, keep working, head down, work, work, work. And like, I guess the same message. Let's get back to your first year. What do, so we asked players this a lot who are like, what was your welcome to the NFL moment? Do you have like a welcome to head coaching moment? Was there a moment in your first year that you were like, man, being a head coach is either not what I expected or like very aware of like everything like, was it the, was it the press conference? Was it the roots? Like that everything you said is going to be overanalyzed. Was it a moment in a game? Yeah, I think, I think that opening press conference was it, like, because it's like everyone's going to man, they're like really reading into this. Do you know what I do? I tell this story a lot. I tell this story a lot. So we played the Patriots. I don't, I think it was the first game that we had in pre season. Maybe it was second because we practiced against them. We definitely pre and wasn't the first week. So it was the second week. All right. And everybody's talking like, Hey, like, listen, you get the job and people say it rebuild, rebuild, rebuild. They're like the first thing you think like, Oh, wait, that's not what we know. That's not no coach, no player ever in the history of the game says, I, hey, this is going to be a rebuild season. We're just going to, it doesn't really matter. It doesn't really matter. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And so like that was the message almost that you were getting from outside, right? From the outside. Like, Hey, this is going to be a rebuild. This is going to be a real whatever. And I never went into play, right? We worked just as hard that training camp as we, if we worked the last dream camp and everything like this. And you go out every game expecting to win and have success. Like there's no game where you're like, well, I guess, you know, words of rebuild year. We're just, let's see what cares if we win. Yeah. That's not in any of our, our DNA, right? Yeah. And so we, we play that game. We got, we got smoked. Yeah. We got smoked. And it's preseason game. I get it like, I don't, I don't even have an issue with the dolphins. Same thing happened this year with the dolphins. I don't think you guys didn't play. Remember because Jalen, in all the games that we practiced with those? Yeah, we didn't play. The starters don't play very much. Yeah, that's right. Like remember we, I think you guys were going to play, but then Jalen. We practiced really well against. Yeah. Jalen had something to get something. We did practice well and Jalen got like something. I don't remember what it was. And we're like, no one's playing. Because you're right. Yeah. So we, we get, we get shell act. Yeah. Right. And they're booing us at halftime. Like what the, what is going on? Oh yeah. So I get in the car with my wife and I love this. I love this. I get in the car with her and she, and I go, can you just. Freaking preseason. And we just met a really good practice, two practices against Patriots who are really good well coach team, good, you know, good players, everything. And they were booing us and she's like, well, what'd you give them to cheer about? It's kind of fun. But my brother. And I love that. And I just thought to myself, yeah, like we have people that will hold you to a standard. I love that. That'll hold you to a standard in this city. Yeah. And we got to live up to it. Yeah. Not. Maybe this is why you've assimilated so well to Philadelphia because your own wife Brett is giving you the exact same treatment. Exactly. I go through it 24 times. But that game against the dolphins this year too, right? And like they like you never want to go out and put a bad product on the field, right? By any accounts, right? People are playing to get, but paying to see you play. Right. But even more than that, you want to continue to be playing well and improving and just to. So they were going far as you can. Right. And remember they didn't practice because they all had food poisoning or something like that. Remember that? Yeah. So they played all their starters played fresh. I didn't even think about that. Like, yeah, okay. I'm watching things happen like in that game. Yeah. And Tyric Hill, what runs right by our secondary, the first play game. And we're all on the headsets going, they're going to throw vertical them right there. Back up, back up, back up. So that's where it started like see it happening before it happened. And then then we had that six one play. Remember we got the six one and we ran and we ran storm and then we expected to just get generic defenses and pre-season game and didn't have anything in for this. Oh, I was so mad. And so I started like, I was ripping the guys on the headset. Yeah. Like, and just like unbearably and I've never shamed or somebody want somebody that can call me down was like, Hey, we got our butts kicked against the Patriots to last year. Like, I'm like, no, this is not unacceptable. Same same kind of thing. I do think some of that stuff's good though. It's good to get your butt kicked in a meaningless preseason game and bring you back down to earth and be like, Hey, we got a lot of, we got a lot of fix. From all, not just players, like the whole building. Everybody. It's good. Yeah. Did you get any advice from other coaches or anybody that ended up being like the best advice, something that ended up being true. Like, like man, you know what that guy told me? That ended up being a hundred percent accurate. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I get, you get a lot of advice from a lot of different people. Like, can I have my main mentors in life and this and that? But you know what? I remember Chris Ballard saying to me, he said something to me like before, you know, because obviously he was the general manager and the Colts and then he, I was leaving. He goes, Hey, you're going to make mistakes. You're going to own them and move on. Yeah. And I remember in my first week or so, like forget the press conference, but it was like hiring things too. And I'm like, I'm trying to get everything right. And this and that I'm like, who I really messed that up right there. Okay. And it wasn't with, it was just something I messed up with. I can't even remember what it was, but I remember waking up in the middle of night, like just turning. I'm like, Oh, that was a bad mistake. I couldn't go back sleep. I was just on my mind, like bad mistake. It's crazy. Cause I heard Chris's voice say, you're going to make mistakes. Yeah. Own it and move on. I owned it and I moved on and I was able to be able to get, get through that. And that's accountability and that's dog mentality. Really when you say, when you think about it, right, you own it, right? Accountability. And you get better from it. Accountability. And then you move on dog mentality. Yeah. All right. Well, you talked about mentors. I know you've talked about Frank a lot. Both of us have been fortunate to work with Frank. Kind of emotional deal with after the game against Indy this year. Do you want to describe your relationship with Frank or like, what? He's like, he's like my big brother. You know, I got two, two older brothers and then I, Frank's like my big brother. Cause, and I don't want ever tell say he's like, like my dad because then Frank, I don't want Frank to feel old. Right. I'm always like, he's like, he's like my big brother. And he just prepared me for everything, right? As a head coach, as a coordinator, cause he was a coordinator when I was the quarterback coach, right? He was a quarterback coach when I was the quality control in San Diego. So he was just preparing me. And he always took a liking to me and was preparing me for all the next steps, right? And, and again, what's a great preparation as you lead by example, right? And then that's what he always did. And, and just other things, life in general things, family kit, like this guy's an all American guy that has good knowledge on everything. So I just always felt like him as like a big brother that leads by example, always pulled me aside to help me prepare for, for my next journeys. And so you're always, you're always grateful for that and a good, and good friend of mine. Yeah. She talked about being a coordinator, right? Like, what is the biggest shift going from being a coordinator to like a head coach? Like, I think the, all the things that are important to being a good offensive coordinator are equally as important when you're a, when you're a head coach. Yeah. You're just doing it with the whole team now, right? Like with me, right, you, you, you got the job because you were, you were deemed as good at being the offensive coach and the things that you do. So you don't want to lose that when you become a head coach, right? You want to continue to, to do the things that got you the job and provide your expertise on that. So, you know, continuing to do the offensive stuff. And then I thought what was really important was to be able to say, hey, all right, I have this, this wealth of knowledge on offensive football. I need to share this with the defensive guys. I didn't do that as a coordinator. Now I talked with the guys like, hey, what would be a card against this? But I, you know, every Tuesday I'm in a meeting with Gannon like, all right, well, what are they doing? Yeah. Now it's more structured. Yeah. Right. And so like, all right, well, you guys got to determine if this is the right thing to do here. But I tell you what gives this play problems is this. Yeah. And that's their main play. What gives this receiver problems is this and figure it out how the pieces fit. Like so like that. And then also with the defensive guys, but it's just now connecting with the entire team. Because if you're taking your role as offensive coordinator of just more than the guys that are, that's calling the plays and correcting the film and, and doing that and you're taking it as I'm the mini head coach of the offense, then you're preparing yourself to be the head coach of an entire team. But I think it's exactly what it is. And now you're in charge of the entire team. I'm going to take what I was doing with the offense now more to the whole team. More to the whole team. Exactly. Yeah. How does hiring an offensive coordinator, a defensive coordinator, go? Because does that help having actually done the position in when you're interviewing these guys? I'm sure. Yeah. For sure. I mean, you know, I guess you just hired two new ones. I just talked to Shane and, and we were talking through and he was talking about somebody who's going to hire and this and that and he was going back and forth. Like, and, and I just reassured him and not that he needs my reassurance and or anything like that, but I just reassured him like, Shane, you know, me and you have evaluated coaches a thousand times more than we've evaluated players. What do you mean by that? He didn't say that. I'm saying what I'm saying it for here. Yeah. Well, we're always sitting there while we're watching players or while we're sitting there game playing or while we're doing this, we're always sitting there and hearing other coaches talk and we know that was a stupid idea or we know that was a great idea or that was a bad coaching part. That was a good. We evaluate coaches, whether we know it or not, more so than we even evaluate players because that's what we do. Like we're in there with that's we spend more time with communicating with the most. We spend more time with them than our wives, right? And he's like, well, I had the gut. I'm like, yeah, go with it. You know. You know. And that gets the same thing here. Like, you know, I think it's really important when you're, when you're hiring a guy's is to make sure you have different people in the room that give you different expertise, right? Yeah. You know, here's who's in this room. You know, I want the offensive guys here that, you know, like Jamal sat in all the defensive coordinator interviews and so did Kevin and so did Brian. Yeah. Right. And then there were some defensive coaches that had some expertise in all three levels that sat in there as well. And then you, and then you talk and you think about the questions you're going to ask and you have a list of them. And then at the end, you, you know, you, you, you valet, you valet, right? What do you think here on fundamentals? Boom. What do you think here on the run game scheme? Boom. What do you think here on the situations? Boom. And all the things that you just did with that player, you, you go through and you give them just like we do with a player. Plus. Okay. Minus for the day. Yeah. And then at the end of the day, you try to cast a wide net and listen to a lot of different guys talk. Like I really looked at that as an opportunity to say we had a great opportunity to get better at football. We don't, we don't go to the national coaches convention anymore, right? We don't go to the, you probably probably should go to Glacier clinics and stuff like that and just sit in there. Why not? Right? You're going to learn something. You're going to learn something. Well, we just worth the time commitment though. That's a thing. Well, if there's one at the Philadelphia hotel, we brought you or whatever. What's the, should we start a coaching clinic? Just to get good minds come to Philadelphia and we can steal their, see if we get the Cowboys to come. The guys to come. This is a really big deal guys. You should definitely come. A lot of people are going to be there. And, but yeah, we got to sit in the, you know, however long the interview lasts with the amount of guys that we did and just sit there and learn ball and, and figure out not all, and that what you're doing to things. You're figuring out who you actually think the best possible candidate is. And then you're also learning ball and you're getting better yourself. Yeah. What are the qualities for an offensive coordinator or a different like, what are you, like if you were to draw up the perfect coordinator, what would be the ideal traits? Yeah. You know, that's a good question because, and Shane and I do this a lot because Gus Bradley taught us this. And, and so Gus, Gus Bradley would come and he, he, he comes up to us and he goes, Hey, explain to me what you're, what the best coach. What does a great coach look like to you? Okay. And you sit there for a second and you start to talk and you're like, okay, I got it. And you start to tell him, all right. Okay. And he goes, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and he looks at you and he goes, you just explained yourself. And it's like, it's like, and you, and you think to yourself, you're like, I think I just, yeah. I think I just. And like, because you think about the things that you do and you're like, yeah, I think that's good. And, and you know your warts too. You don't say those, but you say the things that you think are good about yourself. But the important thing is why I've even brought that up is the important thing is it's like, you can't have 20 ames running around. You can't have 20 astutes running around. You can't have 20, whatever, whoever it is. Yeah, 20 stouts would be a very interesting offensive installment. Yeah, great installment. Yeah. Yeah. But like, very detailed. It would be very detailed. It would be long. It would be long. It would be the best. And so like, it's important that you have, you know, different styles too. Yeah. Because that leads to different ideas. That leads to everybody. And so I don't know if there's a perfect, you know, one or, but what the qualities have to be is you have to be an expert on offense, right? Or defense. Yeah. And the detail has to be so, so high, right? How many times did we say that? Okay, here we go. How do we get a little bit better each day? High, high attention to detail and meeting started by coaches going to players, full speed of the snap and walk through high, high intensity of practice, right? And so the detail has to be so, so high because you can have all these different styles of coaches, right? Yeah. But what makes a good coach is detail. So that's the first thing. Being able to put the players in proper positions to make plays. What are you going to do against this? What are you going to do if you get a high tendency of this? What are you going to do if you get a high tendency of this? Right. And then ultimately is can you teach players fundamentals? Yeah. Right. Because that's our job is like to give you the guys the tools to teach you the things like like you're here, right? And if you play with good fundamentals, you'll get here. It's not going to be like, right? But it's, but that matters in the NFL. Huge. That matter. All these things matter in the NFL. It matters more in the NFL too, because I feel like so much of the discussion ends up being like, not even just between coaches, but between coaches and players like high level, like structure oriented, like how can we gain advantage from emotion formation against this coverage against this blitz? How can we design that and then all of a sudden you lose track also because we don't really practice that much too, but you lose track of the little fundamentals that allow you to do all these things and execute them at high levels, right? There's no doubt. It becomes too scheme oriented and not the player and how he plays. How can we make the player play at his optimal level? Right. And part of that is the right angle. For sure. And you know, but like, but the next step, it's a both hand, right? You can be in great angles, but if the fundamentals aren't right, when you're attacking that, you can be as wide open as possible. If you haven't got on the judge machine enough or, you know, whatever, I'm talking about receivers like I know anything about receiver. You know, it offers a lot. You can drop the best run play. If you're not approaching with the right fit, the right angle, the right, the right hat placement, it can ruin the whole play. Remember, you guys came to me and said, Hey, that Wednesday, let's do individual. Well, it's too individual there just to continue to fine tune the details. And that's what we did. You know, instead of walk through Wednesday late in the season, we ended up going to individual then walk through. Yeah. Right. Remember that because you guys know, you guys know how important that the fundamental that's so, you know, or conversely, it could be a bad, a terrible situation, but because a guy does some like unbelievable thing out there makes a play, which started with good fundamentals. Right. Bales us out. 100%. 100%. Yeah. I'm curious about this because my dad didn't coach high school football, but he's the first coach I ever had. He was my little league baseball coach. And I think a lot of how I interact on a field and play sports and everything was dictated because of my dad and my brother, your brothers are coach, your dad's high school football coach. I see them around the building all the time. So obviously you guys always are communicating. You've said that you compete against each other. What have you taken from them? Like, how was it growing up in a household that was like so into sports football coaching and is that a big reason why you coach right now? Hey, we need 20 men. Man, I have so many stories of just of just that like sports is it is it's faith family football for us and it's like that's and really you could say football, but if we were in basketball season, it was basketball. Yeah, right. It was basketball, whatever. Yeah. But like there was just so much man, my dad used to say to us like if you're going to play for it for me and this night, you got to you got to be really good because I don't want anyone to think I'm playing it just because you're my son. And so like we worked hard at it and we lived about a mile and a half from the school and he was a track coach. He was a football coach for a little bit got cancer. He got cancer and then he just helped out on the side. He wasn't the head track coach anymore or head football coach, but he was a head track coach for 46 years and like I have so many stories that float through my head like, you know, it'd be like I'd have a hard workout and track right or whatever and I'd be like, all right, I'm getting like, all my dad and going home. He's like, yeah. You run that's your cool down. Yeah. You know, it was like all those he did the score book at basketball games, like he would sit there and do the score book like a Sirioni two points Miller three points, whatever. And he would sit there and I'd have those I knew my coach was watching. I had a great high school basketball coach in Scott Cooper, but then I had my dad's eyes like, look at me like, don't you mess this up and yell in the over there too. Like, so there was a lot of accountability. That's for sure. And then what makes it really cool now is that we can bounce ideas off each other. My brother, Mike, who's the head football coach at Washington and Jefferson College, Mike, we gave him a two point play maybe two years ago of like, Hey, here's a play that we're running in the tight red zone. This is pretty good. Do you like it? Yeah, I really like that. We have all the tape. Boom, boom, boom. Here you go. He called me. I want to say this year at one point, it's like, Hey, they're starting to stop it. But we were 17 and 19 on that two point on that tight red zone play. I'm like, that play right there when it's your older brother. 92%. That's kind of a close. That's like our sneak percentage. When it's your older brother and you can help him with something like that, that's pretty cool. And then where do I get that big brother feeling of why did I get in the stands? Why did I yell at Indianapolis Colts fans after we or Philly fan, whatever I was yelling like, or celebrating with Philly fans at the end of the indie game? Because when you mess with one of my brothers, I get pissed, right? Like, you know, right? I remember like there was personal, I can't tell you how many times like if the South Western Trojans lost and someone said to me at something at school, like, I remember, I got, I told you guys this story. Remember I got into a fight because I was sticking up for my brother and the kick, kick the shit out of me. Right? He was an older kid and he said something about my brother and like, you're saying that I'm in the middle of the bus. He getting pounded. He stood up, he stood up for him. Right. And so, but that's what's cool. Like to be able to, and I went in a lot of different directions there, but like being able to talk football with them still and what you guys and what they think here, what they think they're all the memories growing. Up in the accountability growing up and knowing what sports had done for us in our lives and how important it was and how sacred it was. And then just having each other's back at all times. Like, and so those are the things that I remember the most. I could tell stories forever about, you know, all the sorts of things like that because a bunch of sports was so intertwined and who we were and what we did, you know, growing up. Yeah. We did the same. We played any sport possible. We weren't football players. We didn't even start playing football to middle school. And you learn from all these, like it's fast. It's interesting to me that your dad was also the track coach because you have football, which is an insane, like the pinnacle of team sports and like cooperation. And then you have track, which is like, Hey, depending on the event, it's you out there and you're doing this on your own. And it's overly mechanically talking about like attention to detail. It's all detail. It's all hitting the precise things. No doubt. And we were triple jumpers. Right. And so there's all like, watch that happen. I don't even know if I could coordinate myself to do it. It's all technique. Yeah. It's all technique. You can't, I've nerd out of them. Terrific job, but you can't, you can't have bad step phase and like, and so we were good at technique because that was like, so we're fundamentals. Where's that come from? My dad, right? Like stuff like that. But what's funny about that is, is yes, track is this individual sport and football is this team sport, but my dad gravitated toward football always, right? And so like, I remember him like being there like, okay, if this guy jumps this and their guy is just going to do this, he could figure out the score of what the track's going to be. If everybody did their, their hit their, hit their box. Yeah. And so I remember one day I had food poisoning going into a track meet my senior year. I ate something at lunch in the cafeteria. Yeah. And I'm just, I can't stop throwing up. And my dad came up to me and goes, Hey, you got your four events like that. I can't, I'm throwing up every two seconds. He goes, I know, but what, okay, listen, I just need you to place at least third in two of them. And I need you to win the triple jump. This is so I'm like, this guy. And so like I'm throw, I'm running down the runway because he had figured out that if we do that, because I think I would want a couple of them and maybe got second a couple of them, but he figured out if I just got third, like he's doing the team part, he's helping all the individuals, but he's doing the team part in his mind. Yeah. And I just need you to do this. I just need you to do this. I would run down the runway. I would do whatever jump I did. I did high jump, triple jump, long jump and high hurdles. Yeah. Right. I would run down the runway and I'm just speaking of long jump and triple jump. I'd land in the pit. I'd throw up and then I'd come back and it was, I get out of the pit. I mean, it wasn't land. Boom. Walk. You're feeding. You go. It was like, it was a nightmare day, but like he had figured, but he knew. You get it done. We, I think we won. I mean, shoot. We won for the steer. If they want it. But like he was figuring out how we could win as a team because, and so what am I pointing is like it is always about like with my family was always about team team team team team team team team team team. Even an individual. Even find a way to correlate it back to the collective. Yeah. Right. God, that's so I got a combine story. I don't know if we have time to share. But same thing. We got to have. I had a pen to say. Fuck you, Bob. I had a pen to say to set the combine. I never run track, but the combine is essentially a track. Yeah. Right. Like if you have some drill. You had to cite us at the. At the. I had the stuff. I literally was growing up. I would go in the. I don't even know if they still do this, but the informal interviews. Yeah. I wasn't good enough to have a lot of formal ones. So that was my time to like talk to these guys. And I would go from meetings to the bathroom, throw up or out the other end. I mean, what the hell is going on? I think I got like stomach flu and then randomly on the day I was going to run, I felt a little bit better, went out there. And that was the same thing. Like 20 yard shuttle. Like I have a really good time and people are like, man, you're insanely athletic. That's like that drill is all about I'm going to do it precisely with the technique and the steps necessary. And if I do that, I'm going to run a faster time than if I actually try to run as fast as I can. So I'm doing all that. And then a week and a little bit less than a week later, I find out I get sick again, go to the emergency room. Like, hey, you got to pen to cite us. You got to get your appendix taken out. So that was my combine story. Do you think any of your times weren't as good as what you thought they should be with that? Well, no, I don't think that the sickness affected him. If anything, I was too 80. So you're back. I was like 295 all working out. Then I wait and I'm like, man, I'm like, this might make me run faster. I'm pretty light right now. Can you imagine if that right there, the, the appendicitis right there affected your dress status, either way? Well, I think it did. It went down bad. It went down. Okay. Because I was too 80. Well, I wanted to wait 295. I was the, I think I'm the, the lightest or second lightest, like center ever to weigh in at like in the modern era. Like it's not good. Well, imagine that. Like imagine you would have went 10 picks before. Yeah. With everything. Yeah. You might not have ever been an Eagle. I know. That's insane. I might have went to a team that didn't, didn't value athletic centers and got pushed down on the depth chart. Who knows? Yeah, I know. That's crazy. You'd find a way. I think so. You'd find a way. I mean, I don't know. I've been with Howard mud and just Stalin for a long part of my career too. And unbelievable head coaches. So awesome. Two of the best offensive line coaches. Right. With Howard. With Howard. Yeah. That's with how he was awesome man. Yeah. Man, he loved fundamentals. Yeah. Yeah. He loved it. He was awesome in the sense of like, it didn't matter what conversation was happening in these, because he was in the off season. Rewind it. Rewind it. Rewind it. All he was looking at is a snap or the step or the boom. He was obsessed with fundamentals. Just like stout. Yeah. I mean, he would, before every game, he would have every player on the offensive line do a detailed report on the guy that they were going to be against. And like what your plan of attack was to play well. And every week, if somebody didn't say, it doesn't matter who we're playing, it all comes down to the detail and like how we do our job and like where we put, take our feet, he was pissed. Somebody had to say that. You can say, hey, this end has this move, this great, this guy. So we had to ask players before that meeting, yeah, okay, hey, you're doing the generic like detail and all it comes down to what we're doing. So that's awesome. Yeah. Howard was awesome. Speaking of detail, quarterback sneak, we got to talk about it. The NFL is about to ban it potentially. You don't think so? I don't think so. All right. Well, our first, everybody just says, you know, it's they're just pushing it. There's no coaching involved. There's no detail to it. It's just rugby. First of all, is that disrespect for the players? Like what is a rugby player like what rugby is not entertaining enough to make it into the NFL? Like yeah, how's the NFL takes place from basketball from how's my lot of field about it? Is there more to quarterback sneak than what you're setting me up because you know, there is. But you know what, we just went through like, I just did this. I took all our quarterbacks, sneaks, whether it was TV, copy or whether it was this and I had all the coaching points of Hey, stop, give me your main coaching points. You know why I did this in the season actually, because I was going to use it for talking about a fundamentals talk and really get into like guys, you want to know what goes in this play? I was going to give the detail of every alignment and give the detail of the like, it's it is without getting into secrets, right? I mean, but like it's the detail of everything. It's more about details and a lot of other plays because it's so like condensed. Yeah, like there's no, yeah, there's no if one person messes that thing up, there's no question. It's rough. I think about we miss one one time because the guy came off the edge because the receiver, the receiver on the edge didn't step down. Remember that? And like the and the guy and the guy made the play, the receiver didn't step down on the edge. And you guys up in the middle got all this push. Eventually we did it. It took a second, but we mentioned, but that guy was slowed it down, right? And so it is. It's the detail of every guy. It's the detail of Jalen and how he how he pushes and and I know he squat. 600 pounds and we see that all the time. And but like it's the detail too. It's the because you're here because you're the highest athleticism and the of you guys. And then it's a detail that makes the play go and it it's every position. It's every position. But where I where I think it's cool is like, what's that? The only thing we did off of it? No, we created some explosive plays off of it as well. And that's what off that's what football is, right? Yeah. This team's trying to stop this play, but they got they got something else as well. Yeah. And we'll have more next year off of it. And they can push too. It's not like we're the only ones pushing the linebackers are pushing on their side. And that was your point. How is it fair that they're able to push on a quarterback sneak and we can't? Exactly. Well, how is that fair? Yeah. Right. And so we'll see. We'll see what happens. But I think there's some awesomeness to it. It's awesome. Like you guys are on display. You it's all it's always about you Isaac and land it. It's everybody in Jalen, but it starts right there. Yeah, it starts right there. And every time someone's like, Hey, how are you so good at this play? I'm like, well, Jason Kelsey, Isaac, and I can't ever say I don't say Isaac's last name. Right. So every time I go, they're like, what do you think about the old line? And I go, or what do you think about your run game? I go, let me tell you why the run games work. And Jason Kelsey, uh, land in Dickerson, Jordan, my lot of Lane Johnson and Isaac. And I don't want to mess up his name. Yeah. So like every time I say it like that, but it's Isaac, it's you. It's land and it's Jalen. Right. Let's go. It starts right there. Well, you released yesterday that we had another version of that in that had Fletcher Cox theme. Yeah, I gave us built some beans. Well, I mean, it's not like it's like, why did we never run the version with Fletch? You know why? Why? That's a good question. Yeah, because we did this with sleight last year. We had a play. Why do you put a defensive guy in? Well, same reason the Kansas city does something where they circle around. They go on. It's fun. Yeah. It's fun. And so we had slay in one last year, right? And he had one. He did a couple of different things. He had them in twice. But you know, they're going over adjustments this and that. And sometimes it's hard to predict like when you're going to do it. And so I remember it was like, it was a frantic moment for us like, slay, slay, slay. They came running it and he was like, they're not ready to go in. They're not ready to go in. They're not standing there with all the other wide outside. Aren't there. And so we got really frantic about him. I'm like, that was in it worked. Yeah. Right. And some weird motion and rent back out. But people were looking at him and then you guys could have gone bad. It could have been like a delay a game. It could have. Yeah. And so like we were it was always on our mind. And so for whatever reason in the regular season, we're like, yes, this is cool. Let's get Fletcher in there. This and that. And then in the playoffs, we're like, I don't know. Do we want to do that? It's one of those things where you got to be up some scores to like, we're pretty comfortable. We're going to do something fun. We're going to do something fun. I still remember when we repped it for the first time. We pushed Jalen before he even had the ball. Like he was so fired up to do it. That's another. So we got to wait until he has the ball and the snap. And then it was so much force. Yeah. Like Fletch is one of two guys in the NFL where I've noticed their grip strength. Yeah. Like especially in his prime when he would grab you, it was like, oh man, this isn't a masculinity feeling like this guy has complete control over you right now. There's like two guys I can think of him. And for some reason, Clay Matthews had the same grip strength where they would just grab you like, man, this guy's got the strong hands and you had to go against him quite often. Yeah, especially when he was young, his career, they would have him play a little bit more nose and help back when Billy Davis was the defensive player straight three four. And I was like, okay, we got to rev up for this play. Now Fletch definitely asked me multiple times. Hey, we got the quarterbacks, Nicki, and Fletch. And sometimes I fired up to do it. They're fired up to do it. Yeah. I think I think on the Super Bowl, I just lied to him. I'm like, yeah, it's in. It's in. It's in. We're good. Oh, yeah. Be ready, big guy. I think that's it, Coach. Unless perfect. Do you have anything for me? Shoot. Yeah. Don't make something up. No, I do. If you want to ask me quick, I do. So then I can't let me see exactly. We sent Jason the kegs last year. Did we go two or one? One last year. We just did one. Yeah. And you know, and that was a cool way to say your comment. One keg is a lot. It's a lot. So we shouldn't send to you. Is that what you're about to do? No, Lower Marion is delivered. This is from from Tyler. Cause Tyler, I said Tyler. Lower Marion Beverage. Lower Marion Beverage. Yeah. All right. I'd like a free keg at this as well. His delivering Kelsey a keg of Naddy Light next Monday. His request. My first beer I ever had was Naddy Light. So it's one of my go to still to the. That was a good college beer. It was. Yeah. That was a good, cheap, you get 30 of them for like, like at the time, it was like $12 or something like that. Right. Yeah. Did you in Ohio, you go through the drive through to get the beer. Did they have those? No, they didn't have those. No, it's for the best. Yeah. You never have anyone? You never done that? I think we did the drive through. So you had the drive through you went in and there's just beer and cigarettes and cigars. Yeah. And that's all you could really get there. I think you get some like chips and stuff like that too. Yeah. And you're just in alliance. This was an alliance. This is an alliance. But anyway, expect the keg of beer. Perfect. Naddy Light. I'm going to see if you might need to come over and help me drink. I'll definitely come over and drink it for sure. I guess I have one more question. I've kind of genuinely always wanted to ask you as I like think about like what's next, right? I've always thought coaching, right? And whether it's at the, I think I know now whether it's at the high school or whether I try and do something in the NFL, I want to still stay in the game. I don't know if I ever be able to leave entirely. Do you have first of all advice or like what are the pros and cons of coaching in the NFL? Yeah, I mean, I think the pros is exactly what you said. You're around it. You can't shoot. You'll be able to do this until you're 45, like Brady, but like you said yourself, I can't do this anymore or in my case, I wasn't good enough to do this at this level, but I can help other people. Well, you're missing a calf. I didn't play after that. But I am, I miss and have a calf. But like, I think that's the thing like you can help your servant, right? You help serve guys to help them accomplish everything you ever wanted to accomplish. Like that's special. Yeah. Right. And then it's, right, we talk about this all the time. Like it's the relationships that don't, you're always that you're, you're still part of a team. Yeah. Right. You're still part of a goal to win and to get better every day. And, and you should, so you have these relationships with the, with these guys, like that's the, that's the huge pro of it, right? Sure. And shoot, like those are the two things that come to my mind right away, right? And you're obsessed with it, right? You're obsessed with like, I don't have any other hobbies. Yeah. I don't like to play golf. I don't do any of that. One of my favorite things to do is, is like go home, spend time with the kid, like in the off season. Yeah. Go home, spend time with the kids, right? Um, whether I'm doing some, we're usually playing some sort of sport or whatever, you know, eat dinner, spend time with my wife on the couch. And then, you know, once we've, we've talked and we're going to put on a show, put on the show, boom, laptop on. And now I'm watching something. I don't, I'm watching something on, on football. But the screen, on this screen, here's, here's desperate housewife. Whenever we'll talk, the phone comes up and you got three screens going. That's where housewife's not the, that don't even think that's the show. There's, uh, there's the Kardashians is up here, right? Kardashians up here. Brett's a big Kardashians. She watches the Kardashians. Okay. She's a reality TV show. She likes right reality TV. I'd be like, what the hell is this? Like, I don't know. She's not. So she'll watch that and I'll, and I'll watch, I'm watching it too. You know what I'm like. But like, and then I'm watching whatever quarterback sneak fun and else, whatever, whatever it is. Like that's, that's what I like to do. So, but anyway, you get to do what continue to do what you like to do. The cons, right? Is the, is the time. It's always about the time away from the family, but it doesn't have to be as long as when you're home, you're home. Yeah. Like your present. Well, you're watching, you had already been home and now you're watching the Kardashians and now you're watching this. That's, that's part of bonding. That's part of bonding. And so what Brett. You believe that Kim is doing, yeah. What Brett used to do for me when, when, uh, we were dating and she would be like, she would take the notebook and I would watch the game after the, after the game. This is, and, and I'd say, all right. Um, number, number, uh, I was coaching receivers at the time, uh, Bo 82, uh, minus tell him that I want him and that, and she was writing the notes down and then that, that went away once we got married. She didn't want to do that anymore. But, uh, but it is. I'm breaking switch. I'll write it down. I'm done. I'm done. I, I, I ask her pretty much. I say it once a month. I'm like, will you scribe for me in this? She's like, no, not even a little bit. And so, uh, but it's time, uh, it's time away. It's the, is the hard thing. But I know how much my kids, I know how much that was when they stood on that podium and at the NFC championship game or an, and we hugged and this and that like, and I know how I felt like having a dad, like that was a high school coach that I was always having access. Hey guys, do you want to go to the high school gym to, to run around and play and then be like, I know I got the, as a key. I actually did that for my son's baseball team last year. Um, something like, I don't know if I got rain or what something went down. We went to the indoor and we were, and we were throwing grounders and this and that. So there's negatives of not, not being there, but that's just about your choice too. I'm like, Hey, when I'm there, I'm there. And then look at all these perks that you grew up that you're going to grow up with having. Yeah. Yeah. So that's awesome. Yeah. Shoot. Thanks for having me, bro. Um, if, if Brett's a reality TV fan, make sure you guys avoid catching calcium with my brother. 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I'm drinking accelerator energy drink. You can find accelerator at target Albertson Safeway, quick trip and high V. There it is. Nick Sirianni. What'd you think, Trev? I see a coach. I see a coach. I mean, I was pumped. I wasn't expecting the guns to be out. The guns out the entire day. Did you ever put those freaking things away? They were only out for the Nick Sirianni episode. We were in Indianapolis. Thought it would be a good idea to do one interview in honor of the Pat McAfee show. We're in Indy. We're in his home ground. I thought I'd get the guns out there. And then also that's a dog culture shirt. Yeah. The Sirianni preaches dog mentality all the time. Dog. Sons out or no son in the winter. Guns out. You already know, man. Were you nervous? Were you a little nervous? It was weird. In rhythm. I'm not going to lie. I mean, you seemed like you were smooth though. You didn't seem like you're too nervous. Nick and I obviously have a great relationship. It is obviously an interesting dynamic. It was the same thing with Howie. Whenever you're interviewing somebody that's your head coach or your GM. But I got a great relationship with those guys and Nick is such a charismatic, just genuine human being. It's easy to have a conversation with them. You know it. Well, that thing was powered by our friends that accelerated drink as I kind of knew. What, I'm drinking. I'm drinking there. Yes. I'm drinking over it. No, but seriously, he went over the flower speech. Dude, that was an iconic one that he got crushed for early in his career. And that is really, I mean, if you look at the stats, it's paid off to be a good speech. Since he said that, you guys been rolling. What is the weirdest coaching metaphor that you've ever heard? Man, I got a few good ones. I've already actually mentioned this on the podcast and it's so weird that now I use it. But whenever Stout is talking about a tough run play, he says, Hey, it's like pounding salt up a fat lady's ass and I don't know what it means. I just, I don't know what it means. I just know it's not a play we want to run. It's going to be hard. My guy, Eric B. Enemy always says, you got to give ourselves a chance to have a chance. And that one always just kind of goes right over my head because I was like, well, it doesn't that just mean like give ourselves a chance? You aren't too implying everything that could possibly happen after you to have a chance. Like give yourself a chance just doesn't like having a chance after that position to have a chance. Yeah. It's kind of like another way of saying that. You got to give yourself a chance, meaning you got to get in position to have a chance. Yeah. But couldn't you just like throw that? It's like a two minute phrase. Oh, this is like a everyday thing. Yeah. It's like everyday because fellas, we have to be able to give give ourselves a chance to have a chance. You're going, you're kind of. It's ingrained in me. It's ingrained in me. This is how much it's said, it's ingrained in me. It's ingrained in me to give myself a chance. So I have a chance. Like that's how much I heard it. So this would come up like you're talking to E.B. and right at like offensive media ends, you're done for the day. And you know that if you don't get there quick enough, those chocolate chip cookies are going to be out. And you're like, Manny B, I got to, it's nice talking to you. I didn't give myself a chance. I got to go get these. I got to give myself a chance to have a chance. And in order to do that, I got to go. Nick is stealing our just turn it off and turn it back on motto for the future of the team's speeches. I tell you what, it's pretty good when I have turned off turn it on restart that thing. Turn it off, turn it on. I'm glad you just reminded me of that. Because watching this, Nick literally asked me yesterday, we were talking about this and he wrote it down from the combine. He writes down ideas for team speeches. And we were just talking about this and I had forgotten it. And I just remembered it watching this interview again, turn it off, turn it off for the team's speech. Works every single time. Works every single time. And ladies and gentlemen, if you're having problems, just reboot. All this trick in the book. Dude. So, I mean, it was an unbelievable interview. But let's be real. Did he get to the beer that he promised you? He said, if you're coming back, you get to the back. I got the kegs sitting outside right now. And luckily it's cold enough that it ain't getting warm. It's untapped. I'm waiting to tap it, probably the tap it this weekend on St. Patty's Day. That's right. Oh, yes. It's a keg of a netty light. Netty light. I know. Oh, that's true. I know there's a lot of beer snobbed out there that are like netty. And listen, I love a good beer. I love a good, you know, IPA, easy IPA. I love beer in general. Doesn't matter what it is. But if you're going to be a keg of something that I'm going to have to drink a lot of, I'm going to go with a netty light. First beer ever hit. I kind of made that mistake. There's a heavy beer out in Kansas City called Tank 7 by Boulevard and Boulevard Beer Company. And yeah, I tried to go through that in a keg. That is the hardest because it's a heavy beer. It's a lot of spices. That's a lot of beer to be. And you don't, you know what I mean? You need something like a, like a netty light, like a bud light, something that's just smooth and crisp. Just, just, just this hair above water and it's going to be delicious. I can't wait. I'm going to make a fire outside. I'm going to invite a bunch of guys over. I just got, I got like 50 pounds of one of these cows out there in the freezer. We're going to make a bunch of burgers and drink some netty light. It's the first beer I ever had. Actually, the first beer I ever had was Milwaukee's best, technically. And then I was like, what is this? That's like the taste of this at all. Yeah, that's one step above piss. I was 15 years old or 14 or whatever. Then I went and had a netty light. So kids drink responsibly. One last thing from the Nick Sierra Leone episode. He did mention that he wanted a black on black. This is his favorite hat, our foundation. Ooh. Underdog. Underdog. Yeah. That's sweet man. Dang, well now I got to get into the hat that he requested and we had a maid just because of that episode. So, oh. Okay. Okay, Coach Sierra Leone being a trend center. I got it better putting on hands. So we got to the black on black coach. You, as requested, as requested. I hope you guys enjoyed that Nick Sierra Leone interview. I know I'm sure going to try and give my coach on here one day. Coach, if you're listening. How about, dude, so I ran into Andy out in Indy. You got the combine. Great mood. I don't know why he's in the great mood. Actually, I think I know why he's in the great mood. Probably because he has like 11 picks in the draft. Yeah, Andy just wants your ball. And he forgot about that. And then, you know, I think, I'm going to text him. I'm just going to take care of this. All right. Well, you got to have the Andy read in. You got it. I won't bother you, coach. I'll let Jason hit you about it. Come on. You got to do it. It's got to come from now. You're making it. All right. I've asked a million times on the show. So I might have to like, if I see him, I'm a face time. There you go. That's a good way to do it. Yeah, he's doing. You big face time guy? Yeah. Big face time guy. I hate this. I hate this. 12th, that about wraps up this episode of New Heights. Make sure you're subscribed on YouTube to the New Heights channel so you know when new episodes are coming out. 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