Saving Special Teams, Dumbest Rookie Purchases and Tom Brady Owns the Raiders | EP 41
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First of all, I would like to push back. I do like the flowers. I was very good friends with Claude Drew Scott, Artinal.
Dude, Claude Drew. Yeah.
Yeah. I thought Claude Drew was going to punch me in the face the one time I met him. What happened? Does he always have that look on his face? Like, I'm going to punch
a face. He's got some scrappiness to him. He beat Connor Barr and an arm wrestling. He challenged me. And, uh,
You're a smaller already gone. Well, whenever a smaller guy challenges you to arm wrestling competition, my first inclination is saying no, because it's kind of
a lose lose situation for the big guy. Either you're the big guy just beating a smaller guy, which is like, Oh, you know, good for you.
Way to go big dude, picking on somebody smaller than you or you lose. And it's like, he just lost to the little guy. But he asked me enough times. And eventually I got drunk enough to say yes.
And got him. But then he beat Connor. He's he's scrappy. He's stronger than counter. Huh? What arm wrestling?
Oh, yeah, it's crazy. I would have thought with your elbow history. You would have been gone.
Well, this is this was years ago. Fair enough. It's out to Claude Drew. Why don't you tell everybody?
I don't think I drew. Why don't we, uh, why don't we tell everybody we got coming up to this episode, brother? Yeah, we got a huge show. As always, we're going to discuss some of the league updates coming out of the spring meetings.
And we're going to recap the live show. Yeah, hand announce a huge contest. We got. Oh, we got down at the shore surprises for a whole down at the shore.
Down at the shore. Which shore is that? The Jersey shore, the one and only there, the only only shore we'll ever refer to as the shore. The shore. Yeah. I mean, there's more shores. It's a lot of shores. Yeah. But there's only one.
There's nothing like that Cleveland shore. No saying that's, I don't know that. There's a lake. Can you have a shore of a lake? There's a shore. That's a great. When you're coming shore, a shore. Is that specific to the sea? The sea, the ocean? Hmm.
I'm going to say, ah, you're going to say, ah, ah, I don't know. No, you know what? I think it's a no because the Ozarks have more shoreline than the.
The state of California. How crazy is that? The lake of those arcs has a shoreline. Well, I've heard that saying before. So it's got to be common. Now it's for you there, folks. Go to the Ozarks. If there's a good way to gauge the English language. It's off of the Ozarks in Missouri.
OK, new news.
Still top five sports podcast, depending on when you're looking at the charts. That's all we got. New news. So I guess we'll get straight to the fan.
It's the week. New news. Not so new fan mentions of the week, ladies and gentlemen, the live show reactions. You got to love it, man. We had it. I actually had a blast watching the live show over again. Didn't realize that I did a lot of the stuff that I was doing during the live show. I guess once that camera.
Where once the light turned red on that camera, I just turned it to another person. Hey, yeah. Let's get to some of these fan mentions, man.
Look at some of our favorites here. How about a little tingle my berries? All right. Very classy there. Tingle my berries. 2133. It's amazing seeing this show turn into what it is. Yeah. No, honestly, that was that was far from a sports show that we had out there in Kansas.
Can you see me? No, is that a compliment or I can be taken a couple of ways? I mean, it says amazing. Anytime anybody says we've done some amazing things, I think it's always going to be pretty positive.
You think it's positive? I don't know. I mean, it depends on the context. We went further than their imagination. So that's an amazing shit we just took. But compliment. Is that it? Yeah, that is a compliment. I'd take that as a compliment. Big sis over here, boy.
It's an amazing bald spot. You have to add the same time. If somebody's amazed, I think it's a positive reaction.
Yeah, I think there's I'm trying to think what's the right context? You would exceed your expectations or imagination. Yeah, but if the expectation is caught in the opposite way, it's like a negative way. Like what? That's an amazing ass whooping you just took.
That's positive. Yeah, I could take an ass whooping. All right. I mean, you're bringing up fair points. I'll take it. All right. Let's keep it moving, baby. Dirty tea. Dirty cow 35 at dirty cow 35 such a great time.
My buddy got hit in the face with a teacher again. It was a game out Tony G Tony G. You hit somebody in the face with a teacher. Can he? He was okay. It's finished the tweet. He was okay and had a good laugh after. Nice. Nice. Well, thank God. We didn't have to call the EMTs because those things were coming out hot.
Yeah, we need to check the video on this. We didn't. It doesn't say Tony was the one firing it. So I wonder who was firing it when Tony was coming out.
Dirty cow, if you couldn't, you could get us that because Jason was he was a loose cannon. I would love to know if I hit somebody who was a loose cannon there. Score. No fair.
That was my guy, Rob Riddle. Yeah, let's keep it moving. Walmart owns. Add Walmart owns. Pretty sure. Stone Cold. Chris Jones is going to fight my homes in practice after seeing him use that entrance music.
Well, that entrance music was our idea. And there's nothing more the electric than Stone Cold shatter like the entrance shattering glass. So in Pat B in the Texas gunslinger, he is. I felt like it made sense. But yeah, if anything, Stone Cold Jones would be honored and be happy for Pat with that kind of entrance.
Yeah, that glass. It'll get a pumped up that glass breaking entrance is iconic. Is the iconic way to interrupt whatever's happening out on the stage. Do you want to? What? What?
It's Texas rattlesnake at Big Heavy 76. Honestly, that version of Jason bald half naked and angry and armed with a t-shirt cannon is what we should send to represent Earth from the aliens. That's actually pretty.
I mean, yeah, I would love to see Jason against an alien. I'd pay to fucking see it. I think that would be. Listen, especially dresses and bearded baby in a diaper. I mean, chances are, you know, aliens would be so advanced mentally that physically, they probably are going to have de-evolved by that point.
So we're probably dealing with a very weak physical opponent. Yeah, I think. Does that make sense? It does. I think.
So I think that I think I could take an alien. They got to fit in that spaceship. So it got to be pretty small, right? Doesn't make sense to have big old aliens.
Who knows how big aliens get, man? I don't think they get that big. Dude, I think the ones judging judging.
Judging by the dad. The bad. That's that. Yeah, I think that dad. That's the foremost expert on alien size and stature. Big Ed and Bob Lazar.
I think Bob said they were not asking Bob. I'm not asking that quack. I'm not actually quite. I think. Yeah. That's bullshit. Until he's not. Until he's not.
Dolores Proust 573. Next live. Next live show needs to be in Philly and I'll tell you what. I'm down for that. I think it's only fair. I think it's only fair. We're going to do if we're going to do one in Kansas City. We should do one in Philly.
I think that makes sense. Matter of fact, when we're at the Wells Fargo for the Sixers game, one of the attendance or people working for Wells Fargo came up to us and floated us doing a live show of Wells Fargo, which if we could do that,
is that a bit ambitious? That's very ambitious. Are you kidding me? Same. I don't know. Is that 25,000 I would assume?
That sounds a lot of people in there. Yeah. They're all showing up for a live show. 21,000. Yeah. I mean, you know, we put if we can get Jalen to come.
We might make it happen. Oh, who would the guest be? Um, what do we, so we had, we had a couple teammates. We also had Roger Goodell. That was a pretty big sign. That was a pretty big grab.
We had a few teammates. X Philly legend you would need. We had a X Kansas City legend in Tony G. So maybe Alan Huyverson. Oh my God. If we got a I, that thing is definitely getting sold out. Right? Yeah. Well, that's how you do it. You get dream big kids. Yeah. I mean, AI.
Go on. Go on. That would be a little jam of her talk some football. Hey, I was a high school QB. He was nice. Seen the highlights. Yeah. He was a dog.
Because all NBA guys could probably translate to the football field. If you ask Jason Kelsey, um, who else would you need? You would need like some sort of like actor or like TV show superstar. Well, we had Stone Street.
I know Miles Taylor pretty good. He's a fellow. My man, Miles Maverick. There's so many other roles, but God damn he killed that one. You did. Yeah. No, Miles is a legend. I prefer Whiplash more Whiplash. I mean, I love that movie.
That God, that was a good one. You know, another good one was a war dogs. That is a good one too. Yeah. I mean, he's a beast. Yeah, he's kills it. He kills it. I like a.
Always son who'd be good. Danny DeVito. He has no connection to Philadelphia, but he's a.
You're ridiculous. Charles Barkley. Charles. Dude. It's how can we forget about dude? Yeah. Talk about. Gift of Gabb. Not many people better than Sir Charles. No, there's not. There's not. I don't know if you could tell me there's one person better than Chuck. You better start calling some people because I brought the damn house down in Kansas City. All right. I mean, I had Tony Gonzalez agree.
I never ever played a game. Where are you going to get in Philly? If you want legends, you go for Nick Foles. Tricky Nicky, man. Hey, the only quarterback right now to own a suitable trophy in the Eagles uniform or the jail insurer tried his best.
Yeah. I think Nick has a a very cemented legacy in the Philadelphia lore for multiple reasons. Yeah. If you guys might be interested in a Wells Fargo.
Stadium show with the likes of any of those people. Give this video a thumbs up. Double. Double click it. Give it a double clip and we'll get it going. All right now. Let's hit no dumb questions. Big Dow.
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No dumb questions. How many holes does a straw have? I mean, it's just one hole, man. I don't know why this. You got it. We can't do like the standard. There's a hotdog sandwich. There's a straw. How many holes is straw. We're looking for a little bit more innovation than this. I mean, clearly straws have two holes that are connected in the middle. Everybody said you're ridiculous.
You don't even believe that you don't even believe that it's one hole. What makes it one hole that it's connected. So it's not so it's one hole. No, it's just one. Oh, there's not just because it goes all the way through starting to finish doesn't mean it has two holes. It's one hole. So if you if you have a hole.
Let's open and it's going straight. Yeah. And then it curves to the left. And then you have a hole that continues because like you have a straw and you have another open and it goes to the left.
That's all just changing the question. I'm just asking. What is your definition of a hole? A definition of a hole is that there's a start and they finish to the hole. There's there's nothing breaking it or stopping it.
So if it's just if there could be multiple ends to the hole, but it is one hole.
So if you have a straw that's continuous and then it has four other shooting points that come off of it. That's all just one hole like a groundhog like an ant hole is just a big old. It's just one hole.
One hole. Yeah, there's preposterous. I think it's really good.
That was a good measure. All right. All right. I think a bunch of scientists has one hole.
This is the thing. This is the thing. This is why this is why I hate these types of questions. But this is the entire question. I'm going to explain why is a straw.
Two holes. If you would allow me to talk, I'll explain. Why is it.
Big explain yourself. This is my problem with these questions. The only reasons they exist is for people to come up with arbitrary definitions and be like got gotcha. It's one hole, even though you take the struggle.
One, two, fucking two. All right. It's a hot dog sandwich. Would you ever call a fucking hot dog a sandwich? No, I don't give a fuck whether. Oh, it's in between two slices of bread. Okay, if you told me, Hey, I'm bringing you a sandwich.
You can argument. If this is my whole point, it's semantics. It's stupid semantics. But everybody knows if you talk about a sandwich, you're not talking about a fucking hot dog. If you're talking about a straw, it has this end.
One hole. This end. This end. This end. You look at it. There's a hole right there at that end. You look at the bottom. There's a hole at that end. It doesn't matter that there's a connector in between. It does a door.
You're going to walk through the door. Like, if I open that door and then I open this door, now I'm just living in a fucking hole.
Yeah. No, I'm living in a fucking house and that's an entrance and that's an entrance and an exit. That's two fucking holes.
There's one hole in a straw, Jason. You can look through it. No, I don't care. Whatever your fucking scientist buddies come up with or whatever anybody looks up on Google.
Yeah, because I hang out with a bunch of scientists. All right, let's do this. You're in the middle of the straw. You're in the middle of the straw. Yeah. All right. You're in the middle of the hole.
We make a big big. Let's go this way. Let's go this way. In the middle of the hole. We make a big straw around you. Okay. Yeah. You look up.
You look to your left and you're right. Are you seeing one hole or two holes? Look to my left. Look to my right.
Oh my God, I'm a hole. No, how did I get in the hole? This is preposterous. If you're in a cave, you're in a cave and it's got multiple exits.
Are those all just all just one hole? I'm going to look around and be like, I'm in a cave. This is crazy.
Listen, I'm not going to think that there's a hole at the end of the cave. Don't let these ridiculous. This is the problem with these. These are stupid questions because they come up with. Oh, Jason, there's no dumb questions.
Moving on to the next. I'm just saying this is where you go into these semantics. Everybody knows what a fucking sandwich is. Everybody knows what a hot dog is.
It's not a fucking if you ask for a sandwich and somebody brought you a hot dog, you'd be pretty fucking like, what the fuck is this? I ask for a sandwich.
Is a burger a sandwich? I think a burger is a burger. I don't get into the semantics of it. I'm not going to go into it. Is it a sandwich? We all know a sandwich when we see one.
It's a burger. A hot dog's a hot dog. I'm not going to go into. Well, what classification is it or hey, does this straw have one hole, two holes? Like if it's a silly straw, does that count as one hole?
I'm not getting into all this. It's got this end in this end and both of those ends has a hole in it. I don't give a fuck. What happens in the middle of it? Two holes.
I've never spent enough time on this. All right. Fake nanny J. Fake manny J. Who are the top three movie villains of all time?
We could go any direction. We talk in horror films. We talk in action movies. We talk in comedies. What are we talking? I think all my villains are going to be based off of comedy and action movies because I'm not a really big horror film kind of guy.
It's too easy too. It's too obvious. Freddy Krueger? Yeah. No shit. Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Yeah.
Cool. All right. I hope they don't come after me. Do we go top three? Top three. Okay. My number one. I'll go for Joker.
I'm going to Joker's definitely. You're fucking throwing a superhero villain at. Come on, dude.
What do you mean? He's as an unbelievable role. Yeah. If you wear makeup, you can't be considered a great villain.
I can't wait to hear your villain. Go ahead. Who are you going with? We'll go back to her. Ernie McCracken. Ernie McCracken. That's a good villain. Yeah.
I think he's got some of the best liners you could ever think of. He's cleverness. He's got deception. Mischief. Talent. It's got it all. He's got the look. He's got the look.
Especially when the hair gets going frizzy and like kind of at the end of a bowling match. Like he really looks like he's the villain. Who am I going with next?
Since you're going comedy, I'll go comedy. I'm going white. Goodman. Global gym. Ben Stiller. Ben Stiller. Nice. I actually think that's not Ben Stiller's best.
Dylan. Dylan. That's a good one. I know where you're going with this.
His best villain is in heavyweights. Yes. The same character. It's just with kids. It's better though. The lines are better.
It's not. How you doing little Tony?
The whole movie is iconic. There's only one of those movies out here. I love dodgeball. I think maybe it's just the nostalgia of heavyweights. I think that's a better Ben Stiller villain.
Either way, Ben Stiller is a villain. I think we should just take Ben Stiller. I'll just take Ben Stiller.
You take him in both of those. You can take him in happy Gilmore as the evil nanny sitter. You can take him in. Oh my gosh.
This dude is one of the most iconic villains of all time. I'm trying to figure what else he's been a villain in.
Yeah. Ben Stiller is a villain. Good take. Good take. I'll go. Willie Walker. I must be missing something.
What do you miss? He killed a bunch of kids in his chocolate factory, Travis.
He did not kill a singer. Not only that, but he had not only that, but he kidnapped a bunch of oompa loompas.
It hasn't worked in his fucking chocolate factory. I'm out on the movie. You see, there's one of the toys.
You see the way those oompa loompas dance and have fun in that place. They fucking love that place. They definitely signed up.
They don't have a choice. They don't have a choice because the kids need candy.
No, because nobody's allowed to leave the chocolate. So Santa, Santa holding a whole bunch of elves hostage up in the North Pole.
No rule. Then if the elves leave. You're calling Santa a villain? No, there's a clear rule in the Willie Wonka the chocolate movie that you can't leave the factory.
That's the, I mean, it's explicit. Yeah. That's not an explicit rule of Santa. Santa's employing a bunch of elves that wouldn't have jobs otherwise.
He's just providing labor and paying for sugar. Who was my last villain? Who did I have as my last villain?
Oh, one of my favorites of all time. Dr. Evil. Dr. Evil is a legendary villain.
He's even got a miniature throw in. Yeah.
Damn, I love those Austin Pirates movies. Those are electric girls.
Dude, they were so much fun. I think I watched one the other day. The one with Beyonce. Damn, which one was that?
Was that one?
Beyonce was two, I think. Pretty sure.
Gold member. Gold member. Yep. That's it.
Number three, that was number three. Wow.
Damn, there were some good ones before. This is the best trilogy of all time.
Gold member was with Fat Bastard. I do remember that. Yeah. Damn, that was a good one too.
So I still have one more left? Yeah, you got one more.
Okay. I mean, I got to go Ivan Drago. If he dies, he dies.
That's lame. Why is that lame? It's not a good villain.
He killed Apollo Creed. Do you have no fucking heart?
No.
Well, I'll tell you what. Not for Jago. Well, you would have heart for Apollo. He's the one who died.
I think we need another Rocky movie because I mean, the fuck.
United, everyone. United everybody and ended the Cold War.
I think we need more movies like that.
If you could change, we could change. All of us could change.
Hey, did you? What is it? If I could change, you could change. We all can change?
Whatever. You need to change your villain is what you need to do because that last one was pretty bonds.
Hey, you're over here naming the Joker real original.
Yeah, the fucking, the big guy in Rocky movie.
He's a good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good.
He did. He did a great job. He made a terrible superhero movie somehow spectacular.
It's the legendary villain. See, movement on. What's our last no dumb questions here?
What is a piece of your uniform you are required to wear that you feel has no purpose in you.
I couldn't even finish the sentence there.
Yeah, no, I love wearing thigh pads and knee pads because that's typically where I'm getting tackled.
So I'm definitely wearing those and I'm not fucking wearing the little tiny knee pads.
Neither I'm wearing them big old things because I got big knees.
Make sure I stay protected out there. Always protect yourselves.
No, I'm saying my mom always talking about that. What else?
Oh, the frickin the mushroom tops get the fuck out of here with the mushroom tops.
The season. No, the preseason. Oh, the helmet tops pads.
Yeah, kid, what are we fucking doing? What are we doing? That looks, it feels so fucking stupid.
It looks completely fucking stupid. Like, why do why are we putting more pads on?
The helmet isn't safe enough. Is that what you're telling me?
Helmet isn't safe enough. That's safe enough.
It's safe enough in NASCAR. I think it's blasphemy.
Blasphemy if you think that shit is making the game safer for us in training camp.
I think we need to fucking get down with them things.
And yeah, I'm going to really push it to the limit on not wearing those.
So, I hope you get by it.
I just hope I don't get fined for not wearing it.
I don't think I think somebody is doing this with the idea that it's making it safer.
So, I understand.
I just can only speak from personal, like anecdotes.
I think your head bounces more when you hit with it on.
Like when you hit with that on, my head feels like it like ricochet is more.
That's what I'm saying.
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Let's get to some bold topics that wrap up this week in the NFL off season.
Not really a lot going on in the off season if at this point in time.
We did get some updates on some of these NFL spring meetings and maybe some of the rules
that have been changed or enforced coming up this 2023 season.
The NFL has approved and flexed scheduling for Thursday night football games from teams
getting 28 days notice.
So as long as there's 28 day notice that you're going to play on a Thursday, you can get
flexed and that's effective from weeks 13 to weeks 17.
It's pretty crazy.
Which is, you know, I guess you only get two Thursday night games.
We get one Thursday night game, but you get two max.
Now you can have two.
Yeah.
Now you can have two and you can't play two road games on Thursday night.
So that's kind of the deal there.
Yeah.
If you can flex.
A lot of intricacies of this new rule change and how you get flexed.
As we've talked about before, I'm a huge fan of the Thursday night games.
I'm a huge fan of them even later in the season too.
Yeah.
Listen, I am all four games being played on Thursdays because that means we have walkthroughs
during the middle of the week and we don't practice and then we get three days off after
the game.
And players, players that are, well, it's not about lazy.
It's about helping my legs recover and getting fresh, but players that are anti Thursday
night games are just looking to make headlines.
There's no fucking chance anybody with half a brain cell is against Thursday night games.
I heard some quarterbacks say that they don't like them because of the game prep and they
have to stay up later and have to work harder mentally.
Yeah.
But the other teams doing the same thing.
But yeah, I get that.
I mean quarterbacks do have to put in more work.
I could see that, I guess, but I like it.
I like having less metal reps because I feel like I'm kind of old in the scene more.
So I'm good on that.
You old dog.
Hey, dog.
Go hunt though.
That dog is going to hunt.
Yeah, we'll see.
It's good.
And the other reason I'm a fan of the Thursday night games getting flexed is I just like good
football being on primetime TV.
I don't want to turn my Thursday night television on and have to watch.
Those are some of those bands last year were buns.
It was best.
Oh man, or they were I like watching good football and Thursday night is one of the few
nights that I get to watch football and just enjoy it as a fan.
Let's get some good freaking matchups.
That's all right.
All right.
Now what else happened in the spring meetings they passed a bylaw originally proposed by
the Detroit Lions, a line to dress a third quarterback.
Oh, the Detroit Lions proposed is bullshit.
You don't like this to this is such bullshit.
So that so just because of what happened in San Fran.
All right.
Well, that's why this is interesting that the lions proposed it because they're basically
saying of San Fran would add a third quarterback.
They would have went to Super Bowl.
That's what this means.
I think they're just saying this.
That's what they're saying.
They're like, well, yeah, they would have had third quarterback.
It would have been a game and they would have lost.
I mean, when they were down to their second quarterback for the game, I think it was going
to be struggles.
But in general, I don't like watching football when quarterbacks aren't playing quarterback.
Like when you're when you're put in a position where receivers or already injured players
are playing, I'm a big fan of this.
It actually used to be the rule.
The rule used to be you could dress a third quarterback and it didn't count for your active
roster.
And at some point they changed that around the time I came into the league.
So they're kind of going back to the way the rule used to be, which was, I think everybody
had the idea of, hey, nobody wants to watch football without somebody who can throw the
ball.
Let's just.
I think everybody likes watching the football when people can throw the ball.
So I'm a fan.
I think it's a good rule.
I know that we got put in a similar situation in a playoff game.
Jimmy Kemp's guest really reminded me of this.
Shout out to Jimmy.
We were playing the Seahawks in a playoff game.
Carson Wentz goes down.
Then we had Josh McCown come in.
He tore his hamstring and he had to finish the game off with a torn hamstring.
I think I remember this.
Yeah.
We were about to put in Greg Ward, I believe at quarterback.
Man, talk about a dream come true.
This thing is really shooting down my dreams.
That's why I don't like it.
Ah, man.
That's why you don't like the rule.
You want to play quarterback before.
Whenever you the three, whenever Pat went down, I felt like I was like one snap away, man.
I was just going to snap away.
Let's play hypothetical for this rule existed.
I'm pretty sure coach Reed answered that question when he was here.
I am.
I am not the emergency.
I'm something about my decision making with the football, my hands that I don't know.
I don't know if coach has have like a do it like Bell.
Big 12 quarterback.
He's actually on.
He's got a nice little game against, I think, Oklahoma State.
The bell dozer leading them in a two minute drill, throwing some throwing some balls all
over the field.
That was a, that's always fun watching that.
But yeah, I think Blake Bell is our guy.
If if unfortunately not going wood, all the QBs go down.
We know we can run the quarterback sneak.
So that's one play in the bag.
Damn, we can do that.
Bell dozer.
Yeah, he had a lot of the wildcat options at Oklahoma.
Nice.
NFL owners table the Eagles proposal to create a fourth and 20 alternative to the onside
kick.
Man, you guys really want to go for it on four to 20.
Just ruin each of the windows.
Yeah, we really want this rule to be in effect because they've been pushing for this one
for a number of years.
It didn't get voted down.
It didn't just get dismissed, but it's going to be further discussion is going to be needed
for that one.
Oh, I like it.
I like it if it's like desperation.
I don't like it in the middle of the game.
I like it under two minutes.
If you need it and it's there, get out of jail free card, make this thing interesting.
I'm for it.
I don't think during the game, it's a, I don't think we need that.
I'm not a fan of it because it's so out of left field.
I don't think it's the worst idea in the world.
I can see it being cool.
I think that they should, the easier, like the reason this exists is because it's so hard
to get an onside kick because of how they've changed the kickoff rules.
Yeah, I can get a running start.
So I think the logical way to fix that is if you're doing onside kick, you're allowed
to get a running start.
Like just make that, like just be like, Hey, the games on the line, we're going to let
these guys get a running start and have a chance at an onside kick because I think onside
kicks are exciting.
I like the onside kick.
Let's let's put it back into dude.
Dude, you want to talk?
I mean, it's the most concussed play in all the football.
Hey, listen, games on the line.
If there's a time to get a concussion, it's that time.
Hey, you want that ball back?
Don't say it.
Just saying.
Do what you got to do.
We got a guy that we got to more.
We got about five or six guys that are willing to do it, man.
So who wants to more?
No, I just, I think that that's easier fix.
Just let there be one time where you're allowed to have an onside kick is your trailing beneath
like a certain time and like the fourth quarter, right?
Like there should be some like benchmark and there's all right, you want to do an onside
kick?
Go for it.
You can do it.
And the guys can get a 15 yard start.
However far they want to run.
Imagine a 40 yard start.
I think we need to bring back the onside kick instead of bringing up these other.
Get our God McCaffordy back in pads.
Oh, Colin.
NFL owners have approved the proposal to spot the ball on the 25 yard line on a fair catch
of a kickoff made inside the 25 and the goal line or in the end zone.
I think this is absolutely stupid.
I don't think this is making the game safer.
I think it's making it more boring and taking a lot of excitement out of the out of the
game's opening play.
This is whack.
Yeah, but I'm not.
I mean, we're just getting closer and closer to getting rid of specialty.
I mean, it's like what do we the only thing left now is punt.
I think I don't when is somebody not going to fair catch it and take the ball to 25 unless
it's just a really bad kick, right?
I don't know.
Yeah, unless it lets you just skip kicking it and you got to return it.
Yeah, I mean, like maybe if it was like a windy day and it was bad hang time and a short
kick, you'd still return it.
But the vast majority kick offs are it's going to be even exponentially higher now that
it's going to be a fair catch.
Touch back, you know, no return.
Boo.
This is whack.
It's taken away from the excitement of a kickoff, man.
I love watching kick offs.
I just don't know what are we doing it for then.
Like, what is the we're just going to have guys?
Hey, I'm going to run 80 yards for no reason.
And then we're going to start and try.
So dumb.
Like what?
We're just going to do everything for show.
And here's the ceremonial kickoff that's not going to get returned ever.
That's what I'm saying, man.
You let you 10 guys go run down the field and then get deflates the exciting.
And of like the first kickoff, like everybody used to like, oh, boom.
Everybody runs when the ball says boom, when it gets kicked off and it's exciting.
And then you see that first live contact.
Guys, are you hearing everybody's just running full speed at each other heads are banging.
Guys running full speed at each other.
And you guys get close line.
It doesn't back flip and you're like football.
This is electric.
And you're just going to fucking turn it into 25 yard line.
Let's get the quarterback out here.
I think at this point, just put the ball on the 25 yard line and start the game.
Like we don't need the show of a potential thing that's not going to happen.
It just takes away from everything.
It just immediately deflate you.
Yeah.
Well, I just got deflated thinking about it.
I'm not.
I just think we should just start at the 25 yard.
Let's just get rid of it completely.
And put just to be a work.
Just to let you guys know we're not the only ones that think this.
There's a lot of special teams, coordinators and players around the league that we're against
this surprise.
Of course, I think the coordinators are against this.
Yeah.
See their jobs slipping out of their hands.
I don't know.
What can you do?
I guess we can just bitch.
Guess we can just tell the world how we really feel on our podcast.
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Follow us on social media platforms at new heights show one s Tom Brady has finalized
a deal to buy a minority stake in the Las Vegas Raiders from Mark Davis.
Why didn't he do this with craft and the team he won six Super Bowls with maybe crafted
and off from an opportunity to buy it.
That's crazy.
You don't let the most what is it the most decorated NFL football player of all time get
an opportunity to get minority stake in the team that he pretty much did it with.
Yeah.
I mean, that's a fine.
I don't understand why like maybe he just maybe that guy maybe that guy just lives Vegas,
you know, I mean, you'll listen, these owners don't get to be owners and billionaires by
giving up ownership in their team to players that do a really good job.
They, you know, I don't I think it is weird.
It's definitely weird that he's now and officially he's an owner of the Las Vegas Raiders.
It's still subject to NFL approval, I guess.
Oh, that's fine.
I thought it was the deal is just.
They're not going to be top ready.
And we can't let players start having ownership here.
We got a yeah.
He's nipped this in the book right now.
He's surprisingly the third player that's got ownership in the NFL.
Who else do we know the other we we now I looked him up.
Never heard of him.
I would also assume that they're like played in like this the 60s 70s or like the 80s like
I don't remember.
I didn't recognize these dudes at all.
Get out to those guys though.
I mean shit there on NFL team.
You guys do pretty damn good.
Are you guys going to do this when you retire?
Are we going to do this?
I retire.
I think you have a better chance.
I think we would have that opportunity.
You got a better chance than me.
I have a better chance.
Yeah, I think you got a better chance for sure.
You're the mayor of Philadelphia, dude.
There's listen.
They don't there's no chance they're offering a percentage of the team.
Yeah, no, there's no chance at all.
But there's a better chance or a chance that I can even afford it.
Like what do you mean about?
I mean, talk about like a four or six million organization minority ownership.
I mean, how much you think Thomas put up?
I think he's put up like a hundred mail.
How much do you think he's put up?
I mean, you think this is a like six figures?
He's just throwing a little fucking hundred thousand in there a couple of mill.
He's got to be male.
You don't got to.
It's it's in the sevens.
It's actually it's probably it's probably eight.
It's might be nine.
It's might be nine.
You think it's nine.
You think it's a hundred.
There's no fucking.
Finance it.
It's at least no fucking way.
It's a hundred mill.
If he goes a hundred mill, I mean, he's getting a legit stake in this.
That's what I'm saying.
It's minority stake, which is a hundred million is not going to be.
That's still minority.
Got it.
Dude, a hundred billion of like a five billion dollar organization.
Processing it in my head, as I said, and I just sounded like one percent of five billion.
Do it.
Do it.
Do it.
Do it.
Carry the decibel.
Carry the decibel.
One percent of five billion is 50 million.
One percent of five billion to 50 million, right?
I think that's right.
Way to carry the decibel.
All right.
So I guess yeah, I mean, he could be still minority stake probably for seven figures.
Yeah, because 50 million is one percent of five.
Damn.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
And who knows?
Maybe the Raiders organization is more than five billion out.
Five billion.
That's crazy.
I bet they are.
I mean, over in Vegas.
Who knows?
Dude, that new stadium they built out there in Vegas, that's going to.
So do you think that since he's the owner and it's he just retired last year?
You know what I mean?
Like he still played last year.
Because he and the new rule change and you can keep three quarterbacks.
Is he the third quarterback?
Because the roster spot is it doesn't count against you.
So I think he just dresses every game as an owner.
That'd be pretty good.
Mario Lemieux that thing.
I'd be interested to see what the actual stipulations of this are, but this could actually mean
that Tom Brady is definitely retired and not coming back because I don't think you're allowed
to be an owner and an active player.
Unless you're an active player on that team, I think I think you're gold.
I don't even think then you'd be allowed to because that'd be a why wouldn't to get away
with like salary cap like things.
Why wouldn't you just give up like a very minority should stick to the team.
That's a good point.
I'm going to bring it up next time.
I get a contract.
I don't know why.
I think that the NFL has already thought this out and I think that that's why you can't do
this.
You just give me ownership.
You can pay me like just a dollar a game if you're going to give me ownership of this
shit.
Pretty positive.
Tom is not allowed to come back if he is an owner.
What's big news?
I guess it's big news.
Yeah.
Well, let's keep this show on the road.
Jimmy Grappolo just can't get away from Tom Brady.
Guys.
How about that?
How about that?
All right, bro back rookie signing.
Sorry.
As we have seen this past week and I guess the week before a lot of these rookies have
been signing contracts.
Usually a lot of money in their stats as an NFL player.
Money money money money money money.
Rookie mini camps have wrapped up and now we're waiting for training camp to officially
open.
So I guess we thought we'd share I guess our rookie signing stories contracts.
All right.
We got a little bit.
I got a little bit.
I guess it's public knowledge anyways.
It's 1000% public knowledge.
So yeah, I was a six round pick and at that time the rookie minimum was $365,000.
Damn.
That's crazy.
I must have changed in two years.
Well, not just that, but dude, it's more than simple.
I'm saying because it.
Yeah, no, I'm saying that's it's gotten up almost.
It went up to 75 grand.
So it's 360.
Yeah, I was about to say.
It was four four oh five my year.
So it went up just about four 20 or something.
Twenty something every year.
Twenty twenty four oh five and it was three sixty five and went up forty thousand in
two years.
I think now it's like almost it's officially double that.
Yeah, it's up in the six hundred.
Yeah, three hundred sixty five thousand dollars is my rookie contract.
I got a ninety thousand or a sixty thousand dollar signing bonus.
I guess I should know that.
Sixty grand, baby.
It was ninety thousand.
I got sixty after.
Nice.
Maybe that's what I remember.
I forget.
Nice.
Either way, you had sixty bones in your in your in your bank account.
I did.
And the first thing I bought.
I had to feel good.
What'd you do?
What'd you go?
Pick up truck.
Oh, what kind?
In particular, the first one I bought was a Ford F one fifty.
Oh, now I'm partial to to ram trucks as I have a dealership.
Steve, Gideon, Chrysler Dodge Jeep and Ram.
That's pretty good.
So I'll be driving the the Ram twenty five hundred Cummings diesel engine.
So thin.
But yeah, my first truck.
I always there's two vehicles.
Big truck.
I always wanted the two vehicles.
I always wanted to own in life was one to pick up truck and two a Jeep Wrangler.
I don't know why, but those are like the two.
Like some people wanted, you know, sports cars or high end, whatever.
Those are the two that I always wanted.
I never I guess you had them both.
You had them both.
Oh, who's the third was there?
The third that I want now and I'm trying to talk Kylie into it, but she's not biting
is a minivan.
Or conversion.
Which she not bite on a minivan.
They're the best.
I think she she thinks she's too cool and I'm trying to bring you.
What do you tell?
You tell her like a sprinter van.
The sprinter van is too much.
That's on.
That's not necessarily cool.
Too much.
That's I mean, I would do a sprinter van too.
I think you can customize those things.
Thank you for your buck there.
I'm talking about just a Dodge mini like dude car seats getting them in and out with
like a normal door.
There's a reason the mini vans are high sellers.
Big mini.
Don't tell you what, my.
I thoroughly thoroughly enjoyed.
The green.
Dodge Caravan, baby.
Dude, the first car I ever drove was the green Dodge Caravan we grew up with.
Ladies and gentlemen, this isn't your fancy two door back door.
This is one sliding door.
I was a passenger side.
You're going to have one entrance in the back seat, baby.
There ain't no running away from mom and dad without getting out that exit.
At one point in high school, me and my buddies were going to a house party and we thought
it would be a good idea to.
Well, we didn't think it would be good.
We're going to a house party and we put a bunch of beer in the minivan.
We're driving to the house party and all of a sudden I hear this, coming from the engine
and me being the mechanic, I'm like, all right, there's something caught in the engine.
And I notice as I go faster, it goes, this speeds up.
And I'm like, what are the chances if I just for it that whatever caught in the engine
will spit outside?
That was my logic.
That was my logic brain working right there.
And it goes, I'm like, oh, shit, it worked.
If I get worked and I'm cruising and then I go to turn the vehicle.
I had no power steering.
And let me tell you, when you loaded up with a bunch of dudes and a beer, it was hard to
turn that sucker in high school.
And that was the end of the green minivan.
And I had a legendary run.
The purple minivan after the green minivan.
That purple minivan might have been better, man, because that got handed down to good old
me.
Yeah.
The purple minivan was a much more up to date model.
Yeah.
I've had some, I've had some legendary moments in the purple minivan.
Yeah, the cassette tape with the cord coming out the cassette.
You can plug your iPod.
Ooh.
The original iPod.
God, we're really dating ourselves right now.
I didn't say anything about rookie's contract.
For those of you that don't know, I guess it's different now.
Now we get paid bi-weekly.
But at that time, when I was a rookie, it used to get weekly checks.
And this is when you used to get like a physical check and on the end, they had to have a
seat and rip it off.
And I'd tell you what, I was, this is the most money I've ever seen in our lives.
I was more money than our parents had seen.
This was like crazy to me that I was getting paid that much money to play football.
And then I saw Jason Peters game chat.
And I realized this dude made after taxes more in one game than I made the entire season
pre-tax.
Like I was like, dude.
And guess what?
And I was like, in my head, I was like, he's worth everything.
Everything, everything about it.
You for him, man.
Maybe one day I could be like Jason Peters.
And now you are.
I'm still not, when I was a rookie, it was crazy.
But anyways, I'm doing good.
What was your rookie contract?
So when I came in, like we said, it was 405 was the rookie minimum.
Minimum.
Which for those of you that I guess don't know, every draft pick makes league minimum.
I don't know if that's actually correct.
No, that's true.
It's true.
At least it wasn't when I came in league.
And then the signing bonus is what changes.
Yeah.
So if you're drafted in the first round, your salary is the same as the six round guys.
The free agent came in.
Or the free agent guy.
But your signing bonus is what the, what changes.
So go ahead.
Sorry.
Sorry to interrupt.
No, that was a good point.
And I was slotted in the first pick in the third round to get 800 and something K. So
I ended up seeing roughly like, I think it was six close to six, five, 500, 600 K.
How's your signing bonus?
After taxes and everything.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
No, that's, I mean, it was, it was real good.
It was real good.
I don't have a difference between third round six.
I have only thing I really got left there to show for that money is a pair of some of
my favorite shoes.
Yeah.
When did you spend it on first?
I know you.
I did. I had my eyes on a pair of size 13 Nike air mag Marty McFly's the coolest shoes
that I've ever seen in my life.
You bought those your rookie year?
Yeah.
As soon as I got my check, I immediately went online and sourced them.
Well, I got a guy.
I had a feeling the first thing you were going to buy was something clothing related or shoe
related because I mean, that's, I mean, hey, Trevi got swaggy.
You know, I mean, you got over.
Okay, but.
Yeah, no, I am.
I had always one of those shoes, man.
I've always been a big Nike guy and then, you know, watching back to the future so many
freaking times and seeing, you know, what the Nike's look like in the future and the
fact that they were, you know, anti-gravity.
God damn this, these were sweet, self tying.
Oh, man.
It's funny because I didn't think that was your rookie year, but somebody came up to me
and told me that you had bought those shoes and I looked them up and saw how much they
were.
I remember being like, what the fuck, Trevi's been on.
They weren't you.
They were not much money on shoes.
Yeah, I was like, listen, I got, I got a lot of the bank on right now.
I was a spin for like a 10 grand.
I don't know how that guy found out you had him because you didn't like posted it.
I don't think on social.
I think he was just like big into the shoe game or something like that.
And he maybe, oh, you bought him from somebody in the Philly area.
That might, that might be what it was.
I thought I got him from overseas, but I might have got some other kicks that I'm taking
of the red October's.
I still got those to show for it too.
Those are Yeezys, Nike's and Yeezys first.
For those of you that don't know, Trevi's has an entire bedroom.
It's got a closet.
Well, yeah, yes, in your old apartment, it was a bedroom.
You're right.
Yeah, damn.
You got a good memory.
I didn't realize you had ever even seen that room.
Taking my beach shoes.
Yeah, in his old one, it was a bedroom.
Now the closet is just the size of a bedroom.
But I mean, boxes and shoes, I mean, that's a tall ceiling in there too.
It's like a, I don't know, 20 foot ceiling.
Probably.
Yeah, my closet right now.
Yeah.
Yeah, at least.
And it's floor to ceiling, nothing but shoes.
It's insane.
Have you ever done an MTV cribs?
No.
It's like an MTV crib style.
My house is so fucking messy.
There's no way.
There's no way.
I would never be able to clean up.
Yeah, but then you should just do the MTV cribs closet edition and do your closet.
Because it's, it's impressive.
I'll show off some of my kicks.
I got a bunch of, I got a bunch of eating there, man.
I got some classics in there, man.
One of my favorite things is just coming there and just take stuff.
You just were all my, saw my comfy shit's going.
Yeah.
Damn it.
Yeah.
So that was my first purchase.
Getting you back for taking my four, F one 50.
I'll tell you why.
Take it in.
I didn't take it.
Gated to me.
Somebody else took it.
All right.
What else?
First thing I bought was a shoes.
What else?
I just, I have, like I said, I have nothing else to show for that first check.
And I felt so fucking stupid.
I remember you asking me after like my first or second year like, Hey, what are you doing
with your money?
And I'm like, I'm kind of broke right now.
I'm like, you didn't have a great answer.
It was kind of a, I'm going to change the subject and we're not going to talk about
this.
Yeah.
I'll tell you what, man, I, I didn't realize that it was, you'll, you get your, you get
your check, you get your signing, but I got my signing most before the season started.
And you get your game checks every week.
So after the season, you're not getting paid until, until August the next year.
And that's, yeah.
I was running around.
I was, I was damn near dead broke.
So coach Reed made a, we had a kind of a veteran team and this is, this is crazy.
So I'm not going to say who used to do this, but I might have done it once or twice.
So rookie year coach Reed comes in first year in Kansas city veteran team weren't great
the year before.
I'm going to say weren't great, but some things happened where the reason why they weren't
great, two and 14 seasons.
Two and 14 season.
Yes.
They had a, they had a defense was stacked.
They, there's the officers.
Yeah.
Wasn't, wasn't fantastic, but they, they went two and 14 and missed a playoffs, unfortunately.
And so every single game was at one o'clock and coach Reed came up with this very veteran
like a kind of strategy to get guys, motivate guys to play even harder on Sundays that if
you win on Sunday, you're off on Monday and Tuesday is already your off day.
Victory Monday.
So you get victory Monday all of a sudden you play on Sunday at one o'clock.
You're out of the game by five and you don't got to show up until Wednesday at eight a.m.
Pretty nice.
That's, I mean, that's good.
That's Sunday night off, Monday night off, Tuesday night off and then you don't got to
be in until it's going to be in a Thursday night game.
Basically, it's exactly what it is.
You just got to run around on Wednesday.
So some guys decided to start taking jets all over the place after a Sunday game and
not showing up till Wednesday at eight a.m.
Oh, I don't say that.
I might have been a snitch.
No, I didn't say who and I might have, I might have been a part of this.
Snitching on the bat.
This is the reason why I lost all my money in my first year.
Might have went to Vegas or Florida on one of those off days and enjoyed myself.
But yeah, no, the dumbest thing I ever bought my rookie money bottles in the club.
That was the dumbest thing I should have never fucking did it.
And I spent way too much money in clubs and I was avoiding the rent lady because I was
so stupid to agree to all the, all those bottles.
So rookies out there don't get caught up in buying bottles and sections.
But I'll tell you what, it's the fastest way to lose your money if you get caught in
that, if you get caught in that world.
It can add up quick.
I mean, I'm glad you brought up the, I don't know if I'm glad you brought up, but like
the, the pay per game was an issue.
So much of an issue of exactly what you're saying where rookies don't realize that once
the season was over, you weren't getting paid.
This was a very big issue.
And that's why the league switched to now it's paid over the course of a 30s.
Every game is paid over two weeks.
Yeah.
So it gets paid out over what 34 weeks, 17 times two or is it 18 times two if the bi-weeks
included?
Anyways, that's why that changed is because a lot of people were not realizing that those
checks were going to stop.
That was one of those guys.
Knowing all of this now, do you have any advice to new rookies?
I will say this, man.
Once I, I was always against like kind of money managers or people telling me what to
do with my money.
So that's why I didn't just jump into a financial advisor from the jump.
But after I realized that I needed someone to help me with this, I was one of the best
decisions I made was getting a financial advisor.
And then you don't have to have a million dollars in the bank to get a financial advisor.
You can just have however much you do you are making.
Literally, however much you're making, whether you're 60,000 is your sign of bonus or you
don't even get a sign of bonus, you're just getting game checks.
Get a financial guy, get somebody that can help structure that shit.
There's no fucking worst feeling than not being secure financially.
And especially when you're making as much money as we are at this age in the league.
It's pretty embarrassing actually.
So definitely go out, get somebody to help you with your finances or at least help you.
You know, line that shit up, man.
Yeah, I think if we're just talking from like a financial perspective, which I think
is kind of what this whole section is about rookie signings and how much these guys are
now entering into a world that they, I guess some of this is changing because in college
now guys are getting paid.
I ain't never been paid like this.
I never say this money.
See money like this ever.
But I think, yeah, I'll echo what you said.
I think that's a lot of faith to put into somebody.
I think a lot of people are hesitant to seek financial advice, unfortunately, because of
that it's a, it's a, it's a vulnerable state kind of in a very important part of your life.
Right.
And it's hard to input that or instill that amount of trust with another person.
1000%.
I know the feeling.
But I think that without question, whatever the percentages that they're getting, especially
early on, it's good to have somebody who is knowledgeable about budgeting, who's knowledgeable
about investing, who's knowledgeable about the stock market bonds, you know, whatever
it is.
It's a great idea to get that person on your team.
As a rookie, you'll find out you need people on your team.
You're in that portion of wealth right away and you need these people around you to one
manage everything, but also to, that you can get advice on.
And if they're good, they'll tell you like, Hey, we need to scale this back here.
And like, this is where we should be right now.
You might be different down the road, but you know, for where you're at right now, we
need to be here.
And you typically have that financial guy.
I would encourage everybody to get in contact with a tax professional to make sure that
you are taking care of that because they will be on your ass.
Yeah.
Those are the two big ones.
Those are the two big ones from a financial perspective that you need to get figured out
very quickly and get in contact with your, your local or your teams, play your development
person or other veteran guys to figure out which people are right for you.
That's kind of my advice.
Well, if you don't have, if you already don't have people ready to go, I said it once, I'll
say it again.
Best decision ever made, man.
It's an important person to have for anybody and they'll save you money.
They're going to end up making you money.
And yeah, next thing we got to talk about is the ocean drive coming into the OD baby kind
of teased it.
Um, on Twitter, somebody asked about, Hey, maybe you guys should do a show down at the
Jersey shore.
All right.
I mean, I guess we will.
I have an annual event with Eagles Autism Foundation that we put on at the ocean drive.
The ocean drive is a bar in Seattle, New Jersey that has been willing and able and has donated
money to EAF each and every year we've done it.
This will be the third year.
And it's just a great event.
A lot of people show up.
Travel is kind enough to come last year.
It's so much fun, man.
And you know, everybody's just ready to have fun.
We're drinking.
We're raising money for a good cause.
And that's the name of the game.
This year we're going to do something a little bit different at the event.
The guest bartending portion is still going to start later in the day, but Trev has to
be out a little bit early.
Sorry, guys.
I won't be able to serve some drinks to you guys, but I'll have some in the morning with
you.
We're going to do a new heights show on the scene in the OD that morning.
And at the show, we are going to have our first fan competition.
Oh, that's right.
I'm announcing it right now.
We are going to do the first ever new heights beer bowl.
The beer bowl.
The beer bowl.
The beer bowl is.
You got to tell them what the beer bowl is.
You got to tell them what the beer bowl is.
It's a competition involving beer.
Yes.
We are going to compile a 16 team tournament single elimination.
So it'll be one event per round.
So you get, you get one shot, baby.
This NFL style, baby, the teams will be two people and we're going to start compiling
this list now.
So if you're going to be in the New Jersey area on June 28th and think that you should
be in the competition, we need you to send us your team name, a video of why you think
you are qualified to be in the beer bowl.
Gosh, this is going to be so good.
Your partner, you and your partner's names, obviously, your team name, your team theme.
Because we want this to be done right.
And you will be accepted based on one, your quality of drinking skills displayed in your
video, to your creativity of your team name and theme.
And that's pretty much it.
Yeah.
And please be 21.
Do you have to be 21 and her?
That's true.
You're drinking alcohol, so good point.
Please submit that to either at New Heights Show on Twitter, Instagram, all that stuff
with one S or email us at new heights show at gmail.com.
Dude, are we in this or this is fans only?
We're going to be hosting the show.
We're going to be doing play by play.
Oh, this is why.
Oh, all right.
Right.
I don't know.
But I mean, I think maybe there's a place where we do some type of competition with the
winner of beer bowl.
I think that kind of makes sense.
I think I have to get involved.
You know, I'm just, I love.
I love to compete anyway.
We'll figure that portion out.
Would love to.
The winner of the beer bowl will receive the first ever New Heights trophy.
I can't wait for you guys to see this fucking trophy.
If you think the Stanley Cup is sweet and you think the Larry O'Brien's suite or you
think the Vincent party suite, the Viscibar is pretty sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, wait
till you see the new heights.
I'm just going to call it the trophy right now.
I'm not going to.
Are we telling what it is yet?
We still need to have a design.
We know what it's going to be.
We know what it's going to be.
We don't wait to disclose, but I will tell you this.
It's not going to just be a plastic trophy.
We're making a legit trophy.
This is going to be the same.
I think we both feel it should be solid gold.
What I do with solid.
Yes.
Very solid.
So it's going to be, there's going to be some money in this.
The winner is going to get a pretty high.
I don't want to say the dollar amount yet because we don't know how much the trophy is
going to cost.
We'll really set at a later date, but I'm glad you brought up the Stanley Cup Travis
because Larry was kind enough to visit last week and I got to put this hat on.
I feel like I got to be fired up for this one.
This week we got another trophy in the house.
Shut the fuck up.
That's why you're wearing the God damn it.
I mean, it might be it might be both of our number one's.
Listen, we can't trust you with trophies.
You're fucking ridiculous.
Ladies and gentlemen, I hope you're ready.
We are about to present to you the trophy that we both rated as the number one trophy
in all of sports.
It's what we idolized growing up in Cleveland, Ohio, playing hockey.
We all wanted to hoist this at one time or another.
Never in my wildest dreams that I think it would be in my head.
You're ridiculous, dude.
Travis, get ready.
I'm presenting you the Stanley.
Look at this.
This is so ridiculous.
Oh my God.
Lord Stanley.
Lord Stanley is in the house.
And I got to say, it's even more glorious in person than you could ever imagine.
You can't even picture.
It's you got to be here in person.
We're going to talk about it.
We got to be here.
We got my man Mike.
As everyone knows, there is a crew that is always with.
Unbelievable.
Man, there is a crew that is always with the Stanley Cup at all times to ensure the no
shenanigans happen on witnessed.
So we got my man Mike here with is your is this is all because I slammed a replica.
I don't get to experience any of this.
This is ridiculous.
You're in Kansas City, Charles.
These trophies live on where the people live.
That's a that's a low blow, man.
Are you officially with the natural hockey Hall of Fame?
Yeah, I worked for the hockey elephant in Toronto.
Yes.
And I've been the keeper of the cup for the last 24 years.
Okay.
The cup has a great title, man.
That is a great title.
Second best job.
If you can't play in the NHL, you might as well look after the championship trophies.
There we go.
So can you tell me what are the rules right now that we are embarking on?
What can I and can't I do?
So the rule is Jason, you can put your arms around it.
You can hug it.
You can kiss it.
If you feel the need to lift it, you have to go win it.
I can hug this.
You can hug it.
I can do it right now.
Give it a hug.
Give it a big hug with your flyers jersey on.
This is fun.
Is it lucky to wear a flyers jersey?
Keep your dirty fingerprints.
That's why I wear the white gloves.
That's what I'm saying.
Don't put those fingerprint on there.
Oh my gosh.
I can kiss it.
You can kiss it.
Why are you here somewhere?
I got to find it.
I know, right?
Flyers are up there.
74, right?
Yep.
Right here.
Right here.
There we go.
Older back today.
You can drink out of it.
You got to have a winner to drink out of it.
We had, we did a thing with Eli Manning last weekend.
He had to get Brad Richards who won the cup with Tampa Bay in 04.
Brad and him are friends.
So Brad came in and poured a beer in it and let Eli drink out of it.
So you should have had a Stanley Cup champion.
He's got to have a beer out of it.
But next time, next time.
So those you can only drink out of it if you've won it before.
You have to have a guy that holds it who is one.
It's a grant you would drink out of the cup.
Got you.
Can't just put a beer or drinking it for yourself.
Oh, wow.
Guys eat out of it too.
Like love cereal in the morning.
Maybe other ice cream Sunday in the afternoon.
A few adult beverages in the evening.
You're telling me guys that have won it in like the 70s.
They see it and they're like, yeah, I'm going to take a chunk out of there.
Oh, yeah.
Like they can still take it once you win it.
You're lifetime privilege.
That's so cool.
See, we don't have anything cool like this.
Why can't the NFL implement anything like this?
With the Lombardi?
Like what?
So each player gets that wins it in that year.
Gets to spend an entire day with it or?
Yeah, most guys get a day.
And it's wherever you live in the world or wherever you want to bring it.
Oh my gosh.
And so on any given summer, we're literally around the world.
Cups been to 34 countries in total.
And we're literally coast to coast in the United States, coast to coast in Canada and
then over in Europe, mostly the Eastern Bloc countries.
But yeah, we could do five, seven countries per summer.
What was the row deus place you've been to?
While with the cup like like you were like in your head, you're like, man, I'm the keeper
of the cup.
I might lose this thing.
There's a few things to that cast things to kind of mind.
Rush of the first time I went there, that was pretty wild that the amount of fans that
showed up and just, you know, tens of thousands of people coming out.
That makes sense.
I remember one time in Colorado, we were it was the old one Colorado Avalanche and we
were with Chris Dingman, Stefan Yell and actually I think just myself and Stefan's
fiance because everybody else had gone home and we were going for one last drink.
And we decided to go to this other bar and when we got downstairs to go across the street,
well, all the bars let out and it was it was a gone show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you guys like Jason and so Chris Dingman's got the couple.
I got the back of a shirt and I pushed it on.
I had to leave yellow and his fiance behind.
And the cops found us and grabbed us and helped us get into the bar from the crazy crowd
because the fans were just freaking out that we were on the street with the cops.
Yeah.
And they pulled this into this bar to give us shelter and let the crowds disperse and I
had to send the police out to go find yellow.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
That's nuts.
What's the history behind Lord Stanley?
So the family cups 130 years old dates back to 1893 as we were looking at it earlier.
Inside the bowl, 1907 was the very first time they ever put players names on it.
In 1915 is also in the bowl and then it started to grow from there and then do a cylinder
stovepipe like it was a stovepipe like up until 1947 and then they created this shape
with the five tier format down here in the bottom is where this year's winner is going
to go and they'll be on the cup for 60 years before they eventually come up and off the
cup every 13 years we take the top ring off, retired into the Hall of Fame and then put
a new ring on the bottom.
So 52 years is the shortest and 65 years as long as you can be on Lord Stanley.
Holy cow.
Holy dang cool man.
When the band comes off the cup, it actually gets mounted in the Hall of Fame in Toronto.
How many bands are off the cup then?
Yeah, three different bands are off the cup.
1927 to 1966.
Jason, just do the math man.
It's right there in your face.
Listen, I wasn't going to be able to do that that quick.
Yeah, but yeah.
That's hard man.
Not this hard.
We were saying this earlier before we got on, but in Colorado when they iconically won
it, who dropped it?
I can't remember.
Yeah, it was dropped.
Whatever.
Yeah, I had a bad, I don't know whatever you thought.
He kind of looked like he slid into the photo like they're going to take the photo without
him in the Stanley Cup.
Maybe without him, but the Stanley Cup is definitely going to be in the photo without
it.
So if there is a debt or it's damaged, what is the procedure?
Like is it fixed?
I see where you're going.
Yeah.
I mean, it was, yeah, it was one of those things where my boss and I were on the ice when
it happened, it was the F bomb came out and we, you know, we, the next morning we flew
back to Colorado from Tampa.
We let the guys go off the plane with it, hoist it, but we wouldn't let them go near
the media.
And then we said, all right, boys, we got to take this from me for a few hours and we
took it down to the rink and worked with the trainers to get it all fixed.
And then we went to the party that night.
All right now.
How many times has it been, David?
It's a trophy that doesn't hide behind glass.
So accidents are going to happen.
I like that.
I like that mentality.
Right?
We try and prevent it as best for Canada.
As I mentioned, it's 130 years old.
I want to see it around for another 130.
So we do our best.
We're not duct taped to the thing, but we do our best to try and keep it safe for a
game.
What is the craziest thing that's ever gone in the cup that you're allowed to share?
Oh, I'm in a share.
Anything.
Uh, geez, I don't know.
Everything from ice cream, jello, sushi, poutine, spaghetti and meatballs.
Uh, I mean margaritas, uh, whiskey, beer, chocolate milk, apple juice, chocolate milk,
chicken wings, uh, somebody toss some, uh, some chicken wings in there.
Yep.
Oh yeah.
That's pretty fucking good.
I'm also a professional dishwasher.
Nice.
I just think it's such a special trophy.
And the trophy itself is gorgeous, but it's all that other stuff.
It's the engagement with it.
It's what it represents, uh, that it gets to be celebrated in your hometown community
and all the people that help that guy get there.
That's exactly.
And I think that's what you're saying, Jason.
I think it'd be great to see the NFL and even other leagues.
Uh, when you win your championship that you get the trophy for the day and share with
your family and friends and, and then the team gets it back.
I mean, you guys all get to keep your trophy.
It goes into the stadium and everything like that.
Yeah.
I mean, when we finished up with the avalanche, that's it.
Go at win it again.
Yeah.
And they'll get a little miniature replica for their, their display case, but they don't
get something like this in the display case.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So each guy gets a miniature replica Stanley Cup trophy too.
I guess we didn't mention that.
Hey, name it.
Have you ever seen somebody spike their miniature replica?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no fucking way.
Dude, it was, it might have been a piece of cake that I spiked on the freaking ground.
My replica was not given to me by the NFL.
You're fucking ridiculous.
You know what?
I actually had a particular.
I would say it was not.
I was going to spike my ring.
I was going to have your back here maybe.
I jail.
Why don't you?
We love to believe in spawn.
I had a guy, he had his kids playing when he had his cup, the big Stanley Cup.
The real one here and they had his miniatures.
He'd won a couple of times and his kid dropped a little miniature replica and they're made
a silver too and the bowl broke off and I'm like, he was pretty chill about it.
And you know, I just what it is.
I was going to ask you, those miniature ones, like how big is the bowl though?
Is it could have fit like a whole beer in there or what?
I've seen guys slip stuff out of it.
I don't know if it probably may be a half a beer, but I've seen guys carrying it around
and just drinking out of it.
You're all time shot glass.
Exactly.
It holds about maybe three or four shots in it.
That right now.
By the way, you want to think of guess how many regular cans of beer this holds?
Yeah, I could do that.
Let's say I think a nice 12 pack.
A 12 pack here.
I'm going to tip it down for you, grab a seat where you can maybe have a little better
look, but there's my fist for gauge.
I'm not to get your hands.
Get your filthy paws out of there.
I just want to see your going with 12.
What are you going to go with?
Man, I might be a 24 rack.
Dude, it's big.
It's kind of deep.
Can I just go over?
Can I go over?
You didn't say whatever number you want.
What?
This guy's a weedy.
Are you kidding me?
You know, you'd go over 12.
I would go over 12.
I'm going to say 24.
24.
Well, it's 17 exactly.
I was going to go 18 before I said that, damn it.
That's what you get for steel if my second guess.
That's 17 cold beers.
Now again, that's a bit of a, you know, to me, when you have 17 in there, but 17 or 15
in them will fall out because it's so heavy.
It just splashes.
I'm not just a waste.
I'm not a waste beer.
He's the Canada beer.
He's got a lot of beers.
That's a lot of beers.
Oh, man.
I'm so freaking jealous right now.
This is ridiculous.
Trev, what are you, can you confirm or deny your involvement in bringing a NHL team to
Kansas City?
I'm confirmed.
I'm not in and on anything, but I am confirmed and I'm very pro bringing hockey to Kansas
City.
Ooh.
I haven't talked to like a mayor or Pat my homes or anything.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure everybody's on board with getting Casey a hockey team.
I mean, it sports town like this and an exciting game like hockey.
And I guess all the expansion teams are immediately Stanley Cup like champions or like they go
to the, they go to the playoffs for second year.
Yeah.
I think that would be electric for Kansas City and man.
And I think the Casey would show out for these guys for sure.
So NHL, if you're looking for a new home team, home base, like the middle of the country
is the way to do it, baby.
Yeah.
Trave of all the teams left in the hunt for this year, Stanley Cup.
Who you taking?
Who?
I'll tell you what, the Panthers are pretty fun to watch right now, man.
Panthers?
Okay.
I'm gonna say Panthers, man.
I think Panthers got the juice right now.
I'm taking the, I don't know.
I just like watching them, man.
They're an exciting, exciting team.
I'm going golden Knights, man.
Golden Knights Vegas?
I mean, you brought it up earlier, expansion teams and winning Stanley Con and there's
something to it.
This is like their third year.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
I'm trying it out.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, Panthers, golden Knights, if you guys are watching this, if either one of you win
the Stanley Cup, we would love and be honored, honored if we could potentially meet up at
some point and drink a beer from the one and only Lord Stanley.
Jason's already seen the frickin thing in person.
I just want to see it.
I don't, I'm not going to ask for a drink.
I'm not going to ask to touch it.
I just want to see it in person.
Am I being too demanding?
No, you're being you right now.
And you know what?
I'm jealous.
Travis, we got to get a, get a, get a T and K C and get a guy like Ken Morro.
Ken Morro lives in Kansas City who won the Cup of the Islanders.
Let's go.
I did not know that.
Yeah.
I won the gold medal also for 1980 with the Olympics.
So you won the gold medal that he won the win four street Stanley Cups.
Trying to think of NHL.
We got a Bernie Perot, a stoney area.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a lot of the 76 points.
So the easiest ways to just become friends with former players.
Yeah.
And look at you guys.
You guys find that you don't even know.
I'm sure they would love to come say hi to you guys too.
So I mean hockey players, a huge football fans.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll bring the Lombardi.
All right.
There we go.
Fair.
I can't.
I don't have any access to it.
Well, yeah, you lost it somehow.
What happened to it again?
No, no, no, no.
They don't let players hang out with the Lombardi.
That's right.
That's what it is.
Well, Mike, I can't tell you how much we appreciate you bringing Lord Stanley on our
show and letting me see it in person and Travis.
You can't get it through a television screen like he's done his whole life.
Yeah.
I don't know how much I really actually appreciated Mike, but I'll tell you what, man.
It was fun talking to you about it.
It's fun learning about it too, man.
And as the cupkeeper, man, you're a legend yourself, brother.
So I appreciate you jumping on.
Hi, Mike.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Fabulous.
Thank you.
You are something else, man.
You are something else, huh?
You freaking prick.
Hey, man.
Am I ever going to get a surprise?
Jason has surprised me with everything.
I got surprised on my birthday with Paul Rudd.
And I guess surprised with the Larry O'Brien and Lord Stanley.
Yeah.
One of them I ever going to get something cool to surprise you about and make you feel jealous.
I mean, are you not?
This is ridiculous.
Is you being Travis Kelsey?
Not fucking me, Jones.
Fuck you.
He's just a fucker.
He's just a fucker.
That's it.
Unbelievable.
No, I think we need to talk about it.
Dude, Mike, keeper of the cup.
Why the heck is there not something like this with the Lombardi trophy?
Because it's there.
Even if you don't put the...
Yeah, but I still think I think the idea of players being able to take it to their own
child.
They don't do it in all the other leads.
It'd be one thing if it was in like every league like that's what you got, but it's
not.
But Mike brought it up.
I'll be able to really should do that.
It's a great tradition.
Just let the NHL have it.
They figured it out.
They figured that one out.
They got the points for that one.
I think the Lombardi is as legendary as it needs to be, man.
I still fucking want another one.
There's so much I want.
Yeah, I mean, I'll take it.
I'll take it.
I'll take it.
I'll take it.
I love the M2.
I'm a fucking take it.
All right.
Well, before we wrap up, we do want to acknowledge one of the greatest players to ever bless the
NFL playing field.
And our hometown Browns.
Jim Brown.
RIP to the legend.
He's obviously had every single sports NFL accolade that you can think of led the league,
led the league in receiving had the most yards per carry for forever.
Really set the standard for running backs in the NFL.
Really changed the lives of countless.
Being an activist and doing a lot of the things he does with the Maricand Foundation for social
change.
I had one or two opportunities to run into him and meet him.
Being a Northeast Ohio guy myself, he is the legend of Cleveland.
He's the pride and joy that that city runs on football.
And he gave a sports town a lot to cheer about in the 60s and 70s.
Yeah, there's there's few athletes that transcend a generation and are just that much
better as players and as athletes than everyone else.
That seems like they're on the same field.
And Jim Brown's one of them.
I mean, he's the goat of Browns football for sure.
I think a lot of people don't realize a lot of these stats he did were with 12 game seasons,
14 game seasons.
I mean, this guy put up numbers that are huge numbers for a 16 game season in the NFL when
he didn't even play a play three quarters of it.
You know, you just talk about a guy dominating an error and just being that much better
than everyone else.
I don't know that there's anybody else in the game of football that you could put above
Jim Brown.
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess we both played lacrosse as well.
There's an entire rule in the game of lacrosse that is made because he was he would take
the ball and put it right here and he wouldn't have to drip like you now have to do this
motion away from your chest.
So Jim Brown would just run through everybody and score goal after goal at Syracuse.
All American.
They literally changed the entire game because he was so dumb.
He was all American.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One of my favorite quotes from from an iconic kids movie, probably everyone's favorite, at
least from our side not too long ago.
Hey, remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends heroes get remembered, but legends
never die.
Jim Brown's a fucking legend.
If only your heart kid, you'll never go wrong.
I live by stand by it.
The words of Babe Ruth, you know, who reminded me of that was Malcolm Jenkins wrote that
we exchanged jerseys after a game.
Malcolm.
Okay.
He had that quote heroes, you remember, but legends never die.
That was what he hit me with.
And one of my favorite teammates I ever played with.
And if there's anybody that epitomizes that or if there's a guy that epitomizes that quote,
I think it's Jim Brown that wraps it up.
That does it, man.
That's close.
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