The Season with Peter Schrager: Annual Schrager/Daniel Jeremiah Mock Draft

The 2023 NFL draft is right around the corner and the Move the Sticks podcast has you covered for all your draft needs. The show is hosted by me, Daniel Jeremiah and my partner, Bucky Brooks. When it comes to Kansas City and the draft, Move the Sticks is the podcast that will answer all of your questions. Who's going at the top of the draft? Who's going to potentially slide? Don't worry, tune in and you'll be ready to watch the draft like a skimp. Subscribe now and listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the iHeart Radio app on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The season with Peter Shraggers, a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's up everybody? Welcome to the season with Peter Shraggers. We are now a week away from the NFL draft. I put my first NFL draft out on Tuesday morning, got a ton of responses from the league, meaning that I tried shaking things up. I put a Hendon Hooker going 11. I had the Colts and the Texans doing an entire division trade. I had all sorts of crazy stuff happening and really my goal was to be as accurate as possible with the first mock draft, but that's impossible because the teams don't even know what they're doing yet, but it was to start getting conversations going with teams. I think Seattle at five is fascinating. Both Anthony Richardson and Jalen Carter are both going to be available at five. I think they are both very high up on the board, fascinated to see what Seattle does at five. Stroud to Houston is a big topic right now. Is it a smokescreen that they're not interested in Stroud, that I've heard that quite a bit? Or is that just them trying to take the cent off things? Or is that to Mico Ryan's who is a defensive coach who comes from the 49ers who have not relied on a quarterback to lead them the last few years? It's been Jimmy Garoppolo and Brock Purdy and Trey Lance and they've been having quite a bit of success and it wasn't because of the quarterback position. It's because of all the other positions of strength and because you can draft a guy like Bosa second overall and have Debo Samuel as a second round pick and you go right down the line. And I wonder if the Stroud stuff is, you know what? We'll roll with Davis Mills or we'll use a quarterback in the second round or at the twelfth pick or maybe we trade back from 12 and get another quarter back at the end of the first round. Whatever it is, I think Houston is fascinating. Ton of vitriol in my timeline and also on my text from people around the league who I trust be and like there would be no chance in hell that Houston would ever trade the two pick to the Colts because God forbid they pass on CJ Stroud and he's amazing and that happens all the time. I look like how many teams passed on my homes and Trabisky was the Bears quarterback and you heard about that and oh my God. But imagine facing CJ Stroud twice a year knowing you passed on him and you gave the pick to the Intra Division team. So I think that's probably right. I'll adjust it as we go. But I had to shake the tree a little bit. I had to do a little bit of that to get some things going with conversations. I had Jonathan Mingo going to the Saints late in the draft. I think 29th was where they pick and the response around the league was like how the hell do you have Mingo going in the first round and damn you for having Mingo going in the first round. Meaning that a lot of teams were hoping to see if he would still be there in the second round or maybe a team wanted to take him and trade back into the first round. I think Jonathan Mingo was over under based on the response I got. I would say under the 50 overall and right now he's being discussed the third round pick. So 50 with Mingo, he's at the start of the second round, whatever it is, 15 picks into the second round. I think he'll go in that range based on the response I got there. Bears fans, not thrilled that I had them going with Christian Gonzalez over the local product, Devin Weatherspoon or over a offensive line pick. I just feel like Christian Gonzalez, the top 10 pick and I feel like the Bears are going to be looking at him and they might be taking him to add him to their already young stout defensive backfield. I love this stuff. I love all the responses. The Will Levis thing is a mind bender for me because I've also heard if Strauss off the board, he's the guy for Indianapolis. So that means he can go as high as fourth overall. I mean that means that he can go fourth overall. When I say I heard it, it's not from Chris Ballard to GM. That's from someone in the agent community who is basically a third, fourth line of you know, you're doing the Kevin Bacon exercise where it's the connections to a team. It's just everyone is talking and it's, you know, I got multiple phone calls yesterday and me picking up the phone and the phone call being, hey, let's just talk about your mock draft, which I love. And that's from GM's around the league. So that was a ball of clay. A lot of it was being thrown a little bit at the wall, but it comes with good information and then we hope to really chisel it down as we get towards next week. Today's podcast is an annual tradition for me. It's before I even had a podcast. We did this on zoom and we aired it on the NFL network and then for years, I would come on the move to six podcasts. It is a thing that I want to call what's up, Doc. Can we mock? That's an old food that was an old food, shnicking song that Shaq was what's up, Doc. Can we rock this one is going to be what's up, Doc. Can we mock and it's with my guy, Daniel Jeremiah. I think he's the premier draft expert in the world. It's him and Mel Kuiper and then it's everybody else. I love this guy. I think he's incredible. If you don't know, Daniel, his background is a scout for many years. I believe it was Baltimore, Cleveland, and then he got into the TV game. It started his own thing, started his own Twitter feed called at move the sticks. I was turned on to him by Adam Shine, who you now see. Adam Shine. Shine works for CBS and WFM, but Shine would tweet at him and I was turned on to him by I guess 2012 to 2013, eventually started doing stuff at the NFL Network and I'll put him up against anybody. He's a great dude. We have a great friendship. We've got to know each other really well. Our family's really well and I trust his stuff more than anyone. What we're going to do is this. One of us is going to take the odd numbers. The other ones are going to take the even numbers. We're going to rip through a mock draft and it's almost like speed chest. We're going to have 30 seconds on the clock. Maybe a little more. Maybe we can digest some of these pics of something shocking. He comes at it with a view of the scout perspective, but also he's plugged in. Trust me, DJ's plugged in. He might play it like, I'm just, this is just my big board. He's plugged in and I'm coming at it as the, here's what I think makes sense for that team. We'll get Daniel Jeremiah on the pod in about a second. Until then, get your mock boards out. Get your big boards out. Put yourself on the clock. I want you to play along with us. How would you do it if you were in these shoes? If you're listening on a treadmill, if you're listening on a commute, if you're listening before you go to bed, hopefully you stay up for long enough for this, play along with us. Put yourselves in the shoes of these teams and then when it's all done, Aaron, Aaron Wong-Koffman is on the mics. Aaron, we'll have a chance to digest all of it. We'll be able to go through it one through 31. You're keeping track, right? Oh, yeah. I got it all set up for us. All right, beautiful. We might give you an opportunity. You might pick a random team and Aaron, you can draft for him and just set this thing down. Okay. I know when you're favorite, put, put, hand it hooker number three overall and let's just have fun. Let's get it going. Daniel Jeremiah, what's up, Doc? Can we mock? Let's go. As I said in the introduction, I love no draft expert more than this guy and he's also happens to be a great friend. And this is an annual tradition. Daniel Jeremiah, AKA move the sticks. Welcome to the season with Peter Schrager. What's going on, buddy? All is great. We were on a show called Mock Draft Live yesterday on the NFL Network and you were very civil, very kind. And then I was watching some other show that they had you on path to the draft and the hosts and Lidanean Tomlinson and Matthew Judon are all tearing my mock draft apart. But you as a good friend, you had my back on a couple of these things. That's why I say I appreciate you. Don't throw me right down the river, which I love. No, come on, dude. I would if it sucked. I mean, I'm a good friend, but I'm honest and it was to me, I always look at mock drafts, like thought exercises and their grid, their good scenario driven pieces and that, okay, well, you know, you can say this is never going to happen, but you're assuming A, B, and C. So if this thing changes, your whole thing's out the window. So you gave us some new scenarios and possibilities, which I think is great. Real quick off the top of this thing, I want to give you just two topics and then just we'll we'll battle them around because I feel like they're becoming more and more a conversation piece. Houston at two, the latest as we record this midweek before the draft, like what are you hearing at Houston at two? I mean, it went from being whispers about them not taking Stroud. Well, we, you know, I think we're all on the same page that Bryce is going to go one. And if that happens, then a long thought that Stroud would go. And then when I heard the whispers previously, I thought, I'm not buying it. They have to take a quarterback. They have to. And then now it's like not a whisper. It's deafening and it's from everybody you talk to around the league. Like nobody thinks you're going to do it. Nobody thinks they're going to take Stroud. You list out a bunch of the reasons on your on your pod we did on TV yesterday, but that's what I'm hearing. I mean, the only thing that I would say is I talked to one person yesterday who brought up the great point and I, I do believe this, that if 99 of the 100 people involved in this whole process and the Houston organization say don't take Stroud and the one of them that does is the owner, it doesn't matter what Nick wants to do. It doesn't matter what Dameka wants to do. If the owner says guys, we're taking a quarterback, you're taking a quarterback. Yep. The other team is the Colts. I said in the intro to this thing, the biggest response I got from the Colts was that, you know, not from the people in the building was they're taking quarterback no matter what. And if it's not Stroud, Will Levis is the name that keeps on coming up. And I don't have a team for Levis outside of the Colts, but here I am saying, Levis is going to go after Hendon Hooker in my first mock draft and he might go on the top four. I've had, I've had, there's a lot of people and not just one, there's a lot of people that believe if all three of those guys are there when the Colts pick at four, that they'll take Levis over Stroud. Over Stroud? I was thinking over Richardson. Okay. Over Stroud. I have people that think that they have Levis is, is their guy and they would take him. So yeah, if that happens, if that happens, all everything's going to break loose, man. Yeah. And you mentioned the owner in Houston. I don't think any owner has more leverage over coach GM fan base right now than Jim Herssey. And as much as you want to say his daughters might be transitioning into leadership roles and you might say, okay, well, Chris Ballard, I feel like this is like, you know, the owner is going to have a very large voice in this. And if he fell in love with Levis, well, then will Levis it is? Yeah. So we'll see. It's going to be fascinating, buddy. What are we, what are we doing here? We're rocking a roll. Okay. So here's how it works. Aaron, you are going to do the honors. You're going to flip a coin and because DJ is the visiting team, he's going to pick heads or tails. He will then be able to pick if he wants to be the odds or the evens in this mock draft exercise. Aaron, why don't you get that coin out DJ heads or tails? What do you call tails? Tails never fails. That's come on. It's obvious. Give it to me, Aaron, what we got. We're flipping its tails. DJ is your pick. You want to go odds or evens? I mean, I'm going to go odds. I want the first pick, man. Okay. All right. Here we go. This is crazy. All right. So for the listeners, we want you guys to listen along and do this in your own head, but also the rules. No traits. No traits. So just straight up Panthers are at number one. What are you taking? Daniel Jeremiah. I'm going to take Bryce Young, first pick. He's I think he's the best player in the draft. I think it's also who they are going to take. So it all marries up quite easily for me there with the first pick. All right. So overall, the Houston Texans, a bit of a shocker here. The Houston Texans are going to take Ty Greenwood. Ty Greenwood's not an warrior. Texas Tech. This is the same like Trayvon Walker over Aidan Hutchinson type of selection. They're going with the athletic freak. We had him on Good Morning Football, not a man of many words to tie that much. And yet he is an absolute freak show when he walks into the studio. 676 6272 says he can run a 4 440 and oh yeah, as an 86 inch wingspan. And I didn't realize this DJ. You might know his defensive corner this past year was a defensive coordinator for K-Von Thibodeau, but also Miles Garrett, Vaughn Miller. And I feel like this guy's been well coached. He's ready to go. Texas kid. He goes to the Houston Texans second overall. I know. I just wonder the only thing about that. And I know there are teams that feel this way. I like him. I've had him in my top 10 through the whole process. But can Demico go back? Is Nick Saban allowed him to come back into the building? If he doesn't take the honors on. Right? Yeah, but Demico is an Alabama guy, right? So this is the time of year is real quick. I'll give you this one. So Chris Kesserk, why the parents best? You said Larry, Niners D-line coach. Yep. Niners D-line coach. And everybody's like, okay, well, he's going to love Tyree Wilson. He fits what they do. Chris Kesserk went to Texas Tech. So that and then Chris Kesserk and Demico Ryan's worked together. So if you take that and this and I'm like, yeah, Demico went to Alabama. Like, are we just going to? So it's going to be fascinating to see what they do. That's so good. Will Anderson, who we might take in the next week, I didn't realize this. Second most sacks and tackles for a loss in Alabama history behind only Derek Thomas. Okay. Third overall, the Arizona Cardinals, new GM, new head coach and a franchise that's going through some stuff right now. Who's the pick? Well, I'm going to take Will Anderson. I'll remove the suspense there. To me, I think that we're not even established. We're not doing trades here. But of anybody that should be motivated to trade up or trade down in this draft, to me, the Cardinals trading down should be the most motivated team. I don't know where you are, Pete, but to me, they're the worst roster in the NFL right now. They're not picking first, but they are the worst in terms of where they're at from a roster standpoint. There is a lot of needs and one player is great as Will Anderson is, much as I love him. I'm not more. Let me ask you, is there a player or a team that you think, let's start with players. Is there a player? Say that goes that way. Yong Wilson, is there a player that is worth trading up for that you like, like, I, I strout had all this early buzzes on top of it. Like, is someone going to be trading up for CJ Strout? Is someone going to be trading up to get, well, I don't know. That's the problem. So like, I think they would love to trade back, but they're not going to do it for 60 cents on a dollar. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, the thing is, I think, you know, I keep an eye on the Raiders maybe as a wildcard, but I don't know. I feel like the Raiders have a pretty, they have a lot of veterans, man. They still, I mean, I just have a hard time thinking they want to break one in right now. I'll just see what they can get out of Jimmy for the next few years and try and make a run at it. All right. So interesting. So, so far we got Bryce Young, Tyree Wilson, and Will Anderson. I don't see any mock drives doing that. That's just one, two, three. Colts in the spirit of our conversation for the sake of mixing this thing up, they will shock the world. And maybe by the time it's Thursday, it's not Will Levis quarterback Kentucky, fourth overall to the Indianapolis Colts. And I don't think it's crazy. It would not surprise me at all. You can connect the dots there with him. I know he was a man and camp guy. I know Peyton still, you know, I know Peyton still carries weight in that organization. I could, I could see this happening. And that will send some shock waves, send some shock waves out there. So now Seattle is fifth on the clock. Now I think the draft is like it's now it's way up in the air, right? It's wild. And I think that Seattle, it was almost like they were going out of their way. All the pictures with all the quarterbacks, it's almost, it's over the top. It was almost too much. I equated to a teen who is constantly sending their parents pictures of them at a place that you think they're at when you're like, okay, you sent me the one picture from you at the library, but like this is the fourth one. I'm beginning to think you might not be at the library. I think he said on total acts as like Bible study. Yeah, if I'm listening to me, 11 photos of you if I'm a study. So it's just too much. So I actually, I think they would love to have got those two defensive players that are now off the board. I think this puts them a little bit in scramble mode. And I think when they look at it and you stack up what's there, I think at this point in time while they weren't planning on quarterback, I don't think they were planning on. I'm going to go see this crowd being there. So I'm going to go see this crowd here with the Seahawks. The 2023 NFL draft is right around the corner and the move the sticks podcast has you covered for all your draft needs. The show is hosted by me, Daniel Jeremiah and my partner, Bucky Brooks. When it comes to Kansas City and the draft, move the sticks as the podcast that will answer all of your questions. Who's going at the top of the draft? Who's going to potentially slide? Don't worry, tune in and you'll be ready to watch the draft like a skit. Subscribe now and listen to the move the sticks podcast on the iHeart Radio app on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. CJ's draft was fifth to the Seattle Seahawks, which brings up the Detroit Lions at six. Having a note, they have character guys up and down that roster and Chris Bealman is all about character and Brad Holmes comes from the Rams who they do things with the character. And I'm not saying Jalen Carter has a giant red flag because of the stuff that he's gone through over the last few months, but there are questions about his makeup, about his off the field stuff, about his history. I wonder if he's on Detroit's board. I have him going to the Lions in my mock draft. I'm going to go back to that pick. I'm going to get Jalen Carter to the Detroit Lions and just say, at the end of the day, you put him in a good environment. You put him next to Aidan Hutchinson and you give him Aaron Glenn and Dan Campbell and this guy's going to flourish. Jalen Carter goes sixth to the Detroit Lions. Okay. Yeah, he's a great player. There's no question about that. And I've had a tough time paging him. There seems to be sentiment that teams I've talked to do not expect Seattle. I thought Seattle would be in play with Jalen Carter. The stuff I've got back was the Malik McDowell experience in Seattle. They've soured them on taking a chance here. So we'll see. Interesting. All right. The Raiders at seven. If you look at the New England Patriots secondary, it's kind of shocking. I don't think people realize this, but Bill Belichick has played with a lot of undersized corners recently. Look at Jack Jones, what he's done there. They have played with smaller guys that have instincts, toughness and awareness. And if you look at that guy in this draft, it's Devin Witherspoon from Illinois. They have the Raiders have needs, but to me, I think it's corner. I think it's between him and Gonzalez Gonzalez gives you all the size. Witherspoon, I think, is a better football player and they need somebody that can take the ball away. I had the number here. Where is it? The Raiders last year, a dead last and takeaways. So get somebody to take the football away. I like it. Falcons at eight. Wow. You know, the Falcons fan base is pretty loud on Twitter. I had them going Nolan Smith in my mock draft. I might give him there, but Skuronski sitting there now at eight is intriguing. You know, I've got a good offensive line. They brought back two guys with new deals. Skuronski, it's a lot of love. Northwestern guy. You know what? Eighth overall, I will give them Peter Skuronski at a Northwestern. I have not seen offensive line a lot of places to the Falcons, but I think they continue to build up on that offense. And they address the defense in a million ways over the offsuit. Okay. So we go Peter Skuronski there. That puts me on the board here with the Bears at nine. All right. This is going to be an interesting one here. I can go in some different directions with the Bears. I know somebody told me don't sleep on Bijon with them either, by the way. I love Bijon. Who's there starting? Who's there starting running back? Khalil Herbert right now? I don't know, man. That could be a major upgrade. Yeah. I mean, they, you know, they bought, they brought over, um, Don's a former. The empty foreman. Yeah, they got four. Oh, yeah. Okay. Another Texas guy. So gosh, that's, that's fun. That's intriguing. Oh gosh, this is, this is my hardest one. This team last year, by the way, last defensively, last in points per game, third down. And then they're going to take a couple of different sets and sex or third downs and sex. They're, they're the worst. They're terrible Russian dancers. So I know they've brought in a lot of D-Liam and they've made an investment there. I don't know. I was going to take Skorati. You took him right in front of me. Um, gosh, I might just go and say they're going to try and get a big, clean player and I'll give him a corner. I'll give him a good solace. That's a good pick. That's a good pick. You can't go wrong with that pick. I think it's, I think that the Beijon thing is, is, even though they've got some backs, they can land up and play with. They don't have anybody like him. So that would be one I wouldn't sleep on with them, but I'll give him a corner. Yeah. I think we agree that at 10, um, you know, two rows and houses on HBO this week and he's talking about having a team that's, that's told him, J.L. and Car is going to go there. Now, look, we, I took him with Detroit. If he doesn't go to Detroit, this is a landing spot that a lot of people have. The Eagles go in there. He's off the board. There's a lot of good inside guys, a lot of good offensive linemen here that are still on the board, but I think this is the year the Eagles break the trend. And for the first time since the 1980s, they take a running back. I'll go Beijon Robinson, 10th overall to the Eagles. Yeah. I'm clapping for you right now because I've been lobbying for this and it's, I, you know, I've worked in that personal department for two years. I know their thoughts on running backs and they don't do it. I think this is a different year. Yeah. I don't know where we talked about this on TV that they kicked around. They don't need to expound on it. But to me, I just think it's them and the Niners. It's really a two team conference right now. And that's one thing the Niners have that they don't, I mean, they don't have Christian McCapley as a difference maker. The Lions didn't, I mean, the Niners lose after he got there until they lost all the quarterbacks against the Eagles. I think they lost, they might have lost the first game that they played and then I think they got blown out by the Chiefs. And then from that point on, they like won every game. Yeah. So I like that one. All right. I've got the Titans at 11. Hey, where are you quick? What's your comp from B. John Robinson? I've been saying Saequan on air and people are like, I go back. I go back. Old school, Adrian James. Yeah, that's a good one. That's really good. I don't, I mean, he actually, I mean, just the way he kind of moves around side with all of stuff. Yeah. He kind of looks like LT, but I just, I just, being around LT, like I can't, I can't. Too much reverence. I just can't. I have too much reverence for LT. I can't do it. But I know. All right. We get to the Tennessee Titans here. All right. Tennessee Titans, this is a team that's offensively challenged, to say the least. So we're sitting here right now. They've got Anthony Richardson still on the board. So we're in a situation now. We've got a little bit of a free fall here, Pete. Yep. Richardson. And we also have hooker still on the board if you're talking about the five quarterbacks. Yeah. So I'm going to go over to the Titans note here. Still need there on the offensive line. God, why not? Why? I just don't think they have any firepower. So even though he's my second receiver, I'm going to give him Jackson Smith and Jacoba here and take a cut off the board. They just need some more punch. They need some more firepower offensively. So I'll go in that direction and see if him, him and trailing Birx can get them going a little bit. All right. Now look, if the Texans pass on Stroud and Levis and Richardson at two, if Richardson sitting there at 12, do they say, well, it wasn't in our plan to take quarterback. We had a very strict plan here and we were going to go defense and maybe whatever else a 12 go offensive line. But gosh, Richardson sitting there at 12. And then it's like we've been waiting all these years to a quarterback. We want to take the fourth one off the board. That's a real tough decision. Or do you just go offensive line, defense, build up your team, get a wider season. You can see right here, crap. I'm going to say, Anthony Richardson 12 to the Texans. I don't think they planned on taking them to. And then here he is at 12. And maybe your future plans of Caleb Wilson or whoever else you might have think can get there next year or just out the window and you go, Anthony Richardson right here. Okay. Anthony Richardson off the board. Now we get to the New York Jets. Gosh, Jets could go in a lot of different areas. I always pick around the idea of them taking a defensive lineman. And they go, that's the deepest position on our team. They would never do that blah, blah, blah. I'm like, do you know their background? Do you know Joe's background? You know what they go with them? Just give me Joe and Salah. Yes. Yeah, exactly. And look at where this team could be next year. Carl Lawson is probably not going to be there. You look at Hoff is not going to be there. So you're going to take a couple of guys out of that mix and it's like, okay, well, I wouldn't totally rule that out. But I still think they've been caught with offensive line depth issues. McKai Beckton as much as I love him when he's on the field. He hasn't been able to stay on the field. I think they have to go offensive line here. For me, this is again, this is not the order that I have them. This is where I'm going to say it goes and I'll say, Robert Jones from Georgia. Yeah. Yeah. I like it, which brings up the Patriots at 14. Gosh. They've signed Juju, right? Yep. They've signed Juju and there's another wide out there too with Juju and, well, they brought him to Siki and played in and then they still, though there's nobody on there. There's nobody in their receiving core that you go like that's a guy we have to game plan against. I know. I know. All right. Patriots. Patriots will go. I know. Paris Johnson offensive line, moving inside, moving at the tackle spot, putting it in a car, whatever it is, just add to that offensive line. They did close range last year. They get another one this year and they continue to beef up the line for whoever's going to be their long-term quarterback. Hold on. Let me just pull this up for it. Make sure I'm crossing them off the lift there. So you go on Paris Johnson, check them off. We've got, you know, this is one of these deals about this exercise. You know, I think you're probably the same as me. I've said, no one Smith's going to go. He's not going to drop. He's sitting near at 15. He's not there yet. And I know the Packers could look at other areas, but to me, this gives him a fastball. I hope Rashawn Gary can stay healthy. Yeah, but dude, like I'm going to, I'm going to tell you something about that, the dropping and all that. Last year, Jermaine Johnson, everyone you spoke to in the world said he's going top 10. He's got the Jets are sitting there at 26. The year before that, Rashawn Slater will not escape the top 10. Well, that could happen. It happens. It really does happen. And I don't want it to happen to Nolan Smith. It just as well could happen to be John or Peter Skoronski or whoever. But like, this is how the draft goes. Other teams take other players and sit in the Packers. You didn't expect in a million years that Nolan Smith is going to be sitting there at 15. And you don't want to go just defense, defense, defense every year. Well, there it is. My all counts. Great, great dude too. Character wise, all that stuff off the charts. And they're collecting a lot of Georgia players. They went Wyatt and Koei Walker previously. Now they go back and defend to that. So I'm going to take a look at it. I just thought with Nolan Smith, somebody brought up a great example to the day, which was, and I was talking to a GM about it. And I was using this on Reddit company. He said, you know what? I think you can use him like the Cowboys. Use Michael Parsons. Let him just kind of be that walk around Blitzer. A lot of things that you refer to as a spinner and you can rush him and play him off the ball if you want. But I'm going to go there. Okay. All right. Let's. All right. You're looking at defense still here as I went to the commanders and they're another team that's loaded on defense. And then I've got Van Ness on the board and you're like, he just add another pass rusher. Right? Like they have all those guys like, you know what? I'm going to go with another skill position. They last year they got Datsun in the first round. I'm going to go with Dalton. No, no. You know, as the 16th overall pick, I'm not convinced on their quarterback situation. With Brissette and Howell, but there's not a quarterback. I don't think they're taking it 16 right there. That's going to be playing instead. So Dalton can cade. I like it. I'm going to go Darnell Wright tackle Tennessee with the Steelers. So the Steelers, you know, if you're looking at those, that tier of tackles, this is the last one you've got. Roderick Jones is gone. Paris Johnson is gone. This is the next one in line. And if you look at the corner position where I think they could look here as well, there's some good names on the board, but I think the tackle group falls off a cliff. So if you want to tackle in a corner, I think you have to take the tackle first and wait for the corner. Okay. Smart. That was sort of what the Giants had the decision last year when they said, we can wait on Evan Neal, but Thibodeau is there now. We're going to take Thibodeau right here. And then Evan Neal was there when they were drafting. Lions 18. Lions traded away. They added a lot on defensive back and yet I'm looking at Joey Porter Jr. sitting there. I believe it was you who said this are Colleen Wolf yesterday, which is shocking. There has never been a Penn State defensive back selected in the first round. How about that? It's a weird stat. And then yet I'm trying to think of Penn State defensive backs and not many come to mind. So I guess it does make sense. Joey Porter Jr. will be my pick at 18, meaning that their two first round picks are Jalen Carter and Joey Porter Jr. Pretty good. I feel like you're sliding Troy Apke personally. I feel like Troy Apke. He's an isolated career. Yeah. All right. Tampa. Tampa sitting here at 19 and I'm looking at head and hooker is still being a possibility here. He's still out there. But I think when you look at where things are and what's still left on the board, I think with Van S still being there, I think I'm going to lean in that direction. I think it's about value pick at this point in time. Give them another weapon they can deploy on that front. Lucas Van Ness out of Iowa. I love that kid. I love him as a town. I don't know where he goes in the draft. I've heard someone tell me that, oh, you know, you took Nolan Smith in your mock when Van Ness was on the board, you know, Van Ness is over Smith on our board. Am I God? It's interesting. Yeah. Teams are different. Team's are different. Seahawks. They got fit overall. Here you had the Seahawks taking CJ Stroud, which is awesome. They're bad. They're bad. We all predicted all these months ago, right? Right. It's so good. Seahawks back on the board. And I'm going to go. Seahawks. Seahawks. Oh, man. The Seahawks are pretty loaded. You know, like it's just like it's a fun team where they actually with all their draft picks yesterday last year playing, they've got a lot of talent. Seahawks. I will select. I'm debating between offensive line and pass rusher and gosh, I'm going to go with Osiris Torrance, Adam Florida, big guard. Add another guy to block up the middle and you've got your Kenneth Walker and all that stuff. But I did not have him in my first round in my mock draft. I've not heard him use many places. Second pick and top 20. Here we go. Cyrus Torrance did not see that happen. All right. I like it. That leaves me with the Chargers, right? So yeah, different ways they can go. I'm going to go knowing full well what they already have in this position group and knowing that I don't know how long it's going to continue with Keenan and Mike together there. And I love Josh Palmer as a really good player. But I've developed this thing called the Mahomes Doctrine. Feel free to take it. But the Mahomes Doctrine states that if you were in the AFC, no such thing as having too many weapons or too much offense. There's not enough. Love it. So I'm going to go Jordan Addison to the Chargers here. I'm going to never see her because I hear that. You could also say you can never have enough past rushes in the Mahomes. I know. But I know they played on ice rink. But even with all the past rushes last year against the Chiefs, it ended up mattering. I mean, I know, I know. The 2023 NFL draft is right around the corner and the move the sticks podcast has you covered for all your draft needs. The show is hosted by me, Daniel Jeremiah and my partner, Bucky Brooks. When it comes to Kansas City and the draft, move the sticks as the podcast that will answer all of your questions. Who's going at the top of the draft? Who's going to potentially slide? Don't worry. Tune in and you'll be ready to watch the draft like a scam. Subscribe now and listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the iHeart Radio app on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Gosh Ravens. All right. Here's one from left field. Didn't have them in my first round. Yeah, I love them and everyone on the scouting community that I talk to say, well, he probably wouldn't be our pick, but you didn't include them in your first round. Why not going with a manual for Mississippi State, 165 pounds at the combine. You just lighted him. He was 166. He's 166 beefed up. I believe at his previous 170. Yep. Big. Yeah. Has is there a body type like him? Smart role. And you're a recent member. I was with smart role with the Ravens. And he worked, right? Yeah, he was great. So there's a couple of manual for he's a freak. He's got unbelievable ball skills. Another one Fred's move had a similar body type back in the day. Really? Okay. All right. You're up with the Vikings and Hendon Hooker is on the board. No, Hendon Hooker is there. Wow. I would potentially go here. I like Hendon Hooker, but I almost like the idea of me passing on to see what you can do. And then look at the rest of these teams. There's not really a, there's one possibility still remaining. So I want to keep Hendon Hooker on the board for you because I want to see what else you have for them. And from an information standpoint, I'm going to be selfish. I'm going to look at the Minnesota Vikings. Gosh. I'm going to give the Minnesota Vikings Deontay Banks a corner from Maryland. Yep. Good player. I was going to go him or Forbes to the Ravens there. I almost went Deontay Banks to the Chargers too. I could make that case too. That's about where he'll go. He's going to go with that race. Yeah. He's here. And the other guy who's going to go here who I'm going to probably take with the Jaguars pick. Let me see if you can take Brian Branger. I can already get inside your head. I already know where you're doing here. What are you doing? That is exactly right. Brian Branche will be the pick for the Jaguars series. The perfect pick for this selection. Good placement. And you said yesterday on the mock draft, why can't play nickel, play inside, play outside and just get a good football player here, a leader and maybe the hardest hitter in the entire draft. I like it. Giants. I am up with the G-men. I'm going to give them. I think I'm going to give them a weapon. This is an interesting one. I have this guy as my 31st overall player and teams are split. Some like him significantly better than that. Other teams are not as high on him. He's got inconsistent hands. But Quentin Johnson from TCU has just got an intriguing skill set. He's one of the few big receivers in this draft. He plays faster than he timed. And so give the Giants another weapon here. So I put Zay Flowers in my mock draft and Quentin Johnson was on the board and multiple people are on the late text. I mean, looking at it, your order of your receivers might be off. If the Giants who took one Dale Robinson last year were to take Zay Flowers, that wouldn't make sense. You're looking to do a basketball team. Quentin Johnson makes more sense for the Giants. All right. Cowboys. Cowboys. Again, Colleen Wolf mentioned this on Good Morning Football when she was filling in. Like, there's a really good track record in the first round. I think you want to poke at the Cowboys for being this dramatic team. They pick solid players. They all end up playing roles that first year. Who would they take though? Let's see here. Who's on the board? Who do we got? All the big tackles are gone. I got one sticking out on them of considering what they lost, left, and free agency. They got a franchise tied in that they left, let, walk away. Don Schultz is your franchise tied in? They franchise them. So it makes them, he was their franchise player. Yes, you're right. Semantics over here, Peter. Sorry. That's interesting because you've got not only the Georgia kid Washington, you also have Michael Mayer from Notre Dame, and then you also have who I think is getting the Iowa kid. Laporta is a good player. He's getting some buzz, but I'm going to go running back here. You also want to see Kelly. I'm going to go to Mayor Gibbs. I'll like to give them the running back out of Alabama and say, fire power. You can use them as a wide receiver at times and that kind of passing game. I'm going to say they need just talent on offense here. I'm going to say, Jamir Gibbs running back out of Alabama to the Cowboys. Okay. I like it. Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo Bills. I like the more wide receiver here. Again, going back to my home's doctrine theory. I know Jack Campbell, linebacker from Iowa. I would not sleep on that here with what they lost. Free agency. No Tremaine Edmonds is a Jack Campbell to replace him. I want to get a new name in the mix here. I'm going to give you Matthew. I'm going to give you Matthew Bergeron. He's a tackle guard from Syracuse that has a lot of love on the streets for him. He's a good player. I like him. I thought he's a second round guy, but I think because we have, you know, he's next in line. When you look at the, the lamin that are already gone, I think he's going to go up higher than people think. So let's, let's get him on the board. So identify him. All right. He'll play guard for them. I'm going to do this. I love it. And I'm going to do the same thing with my next pick because I'm the Cincinnati Bengals, I believe. I gave them a tight end in my mock job. I'm going to change it up here. You probably have been talking about them a lot more than I have. I didn't have my first round and I got multiple texts saying you didn't include them. I'm going to do this player. I'm going to go Anton Harrison out of Oklahoma offensive tackle. I know some teams have them in their top five at the position. Others say, not in our top 10 in the position. I think I'm going to go offensive line, especially if Jonah Williams is asking to be true. I don't know what's going on with their offensive line. Bangle say, add another one. Anton Harrison at Oklahoma. Yeah, it's interesting. There are, I'm probably in the lower camp on him, but I know he does have sponsors. And look, the Bengals just going to boom or sooner with Orlando Brown and Anton Harrison as their book ends there. There you go. There you go. All right. The Saints. Joe mixing in the backfield. Yeah, exactly. All right. We get to the Saints here, Peter. I mean, now at this point in time, I wasn't even looking at the, I wasn't looking at the fact that this was an odd team and not an even team because I wanted you to have to make this decision. But here I am faced with it. What? I'm doing a thing on the show tomorrow. Mickey Loomis. I mean, they're the kind of team that they've hit so many guys that they also aren't scared to take the guy that no one else will. So what was it? Peyton Henderson. What was his name? The guy? Oh, yeah. Peyton Turner. And Marcus Davenport, a couple of years ago, trading up for like, they're one of those teams that Mickey takes as guys. And he's like, I'll deal with the criticism. Just trust what I know. So go for it. Anything off the board with Mickey. Yeah. I was looking to go kind of off the board here, but I think I'm going to, I'm going to go conservative. Let me just look at one more thing here to make sure that I'm not missing it. I'm just going to take mayor here. I'm just going to tie it in. Give their car a nice little security blanket. Yep. Notre Dame. Well, Notre Dame tied in. Just a good all-round player. So I think he's one in a draft where there's a lot of guys who don't fit the specs under size. There's all these question marks. Like he might not ever be an elite elite player, but he's going to be a good player. I feel like he's one of the few known quantities in this draft. Yeah. Yeah. You know how you loved it? I always think of when it comes to tight ends, you loved Hockinson. That was your dude. I did love Hockinson. I love Hockinson. You were right. He was great this year for the Vikings, you know? Eagles. Ah, pass Russian offensive line. Pass Russian offensive line. I already went off the board with a running back in Bijon Robinson. That's not what they usually do. Will McDonald the fourth will go out of Iowa State, send him to Philly, and turn them loose, let them fly. You know, people like him in the league. I guess he's the first round pick if not his early second. It's just a good mark. Got a Matt Campbell Nick Siriani connection there. Those guys are tight. So we'll go there. Last pick of the draft. And there are a lot of guys left. Oh, no. I think I have no choice here. I'm going to take Miles Murphy. Miles Murphy and Clemson. Yeah, he's my 22nd player. He's, you know, he kind of fits that big sturdy rugged edge rusher. You think about Frank Clark, the type of guys they like to play with Carloff. Those guys are big physical guys. And I think Murphy would fit that. So Frank Clark is gone. And now you just throw him in there with Carloff. This and off you go. All right. So DJ at the end there, we went Gibbs Bergeron Harrison. He's a big player. And I'm going to take a look at the first round. I'm going to take a look at the first round. I'm going to take a look at the first round. I'm going to take a look at the first round. I'm going to take a look at the first round. I'm going to take a look at the first round. I'm going to take a look at the first round. I'm going to take a look at the first round. I'm going to take a look at the first round. I'm going to take a look at the first round. I'm going to take a look at the first round. 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They go corner as well. Deontay Banks, Jaguars go corner as well. Brian Branch, Giants, Quentin Johnson, wider seabro T.C.U., Cowboys, Jamir Gibbs running back at Alabama, Bills, Matthew Bergeron, offensive lineman at Asaricuse, Bangles, Anton Harrison, Wime Outta Oklahoma, Saints Michael Mayer out of Notre Dame, Eagles Will McDonald, the fourth out of Iowa State, and then Miles Murphy out of Clemson finishes out the first round going to the Chiefs. That's a first round, folks. That is a first round. 31 for 31. They nailed it. That was fun. It's good stuff, man. It's a good exercise. And again, I always tell people one of my pet peeves through this process is not specifically mock-track related, but is when people can throw out this guy's a top-he's-a first round pick. This guy's a top 50 pick all day long. And it's like, well, if I add up all the guys that you've said are first round picks, like, there's not 45 of these guys going in the first round. So we got to stop saying all these guys are first round picks. When you do an exercise like this, you realize there's some really good players that aren't going to get picked in the first round. You know, in the NFL, I don't know, is it still Gil Brant? Who does it? Gil invites these guys and everyone assumes that the rig is in. If they got invited to the draft and they're attending, they're going in the first round. That's not the case. How many drafts do you have to be at where you realize there's usually five to six guys in that green room the next day who were not selected day one? Yeah. No, I always say there's probably four guys that get invited every year that if you be honest, they pack too soon. All right, Daniel Jeremiah, so excited for your work next week. You're going to be doing a lot of stuff, obviously, throughout the week. But most importantly, Thursday night, draft night, I am an unabashed fan of our coverage of the NFL network. I know I'm very biased, but I know we're doing crossover stuff with ESPN. I beg of every listener, put on NFL network night one, night two, and then when you and I join forces, the special day three when we're on the table together. Some of my favorite moments. I know what you just said and I agree to accept for one thing. I will dispute. You said my favorite thing is Thursday night. But my favorite thing is not Thursday night. Talk about Saturday night. Talk about it. My favorite thing is Sunday night or Saturday Friday Saturday Saturday night. Me and Shrigs, I'm holding up a picture right now. You're listening. You don't know what I'm doing. It's a picture of me and Shrigs having a nice romantic dinner at the Bellagio and next to the window with the fountain. We got a reservation at a hotel last year at five 30 Saturday after the draft and it was at a restaurant that I want to say was in the Bellagio overlooking the fountains and a man came by and said, I will take your photograph because it was so romantic. They thought we were a couple. I will take your photograph and you guys will put it in one of these sleeves and you can have the photograph and all that stuff and I go, yeah, do it. And then the guy charged me $58 for said photograph. We split it. We split it. And guess what's in my dressing room right now? A good morning football. There's literally like an NFL Almanac. There is a bag of high chew candy and then there is that picture. I don't have any pictures of my family. I have that picture of you and I at the Bellagio overlooking the fountains. And guess what? I can't wait to see what you have cooked up for us this year. I can't wait. Annual tradition. We have said we've done this. We did this. I started in Nashville and you and I both agree and it's almost like the feeling of when the draft is done. It feels like there's a 7,000 pound gorilla that is just off your shoulders and you and I treat ourselves to a steak, a piece of fish, whatever it is. We enjoy each other's company that Saturday night. Yeah, that's on. Again, it's one of my favorite days of the year. I can't wait for the draft. Can't wait to be with you, buddy. We're going to have a blast. I think this exercise proved that none of us really have any idea what's going to happen in this thing. Buckle up and enjoy the ride. I'm just hoping for a lot of trades. My mock draft, I have an excuse when it's all wrong on Thursday. That's it. Daniel Jeremiah, at Move the Sticks. My favorite draft analyst and one of my favorite people that we work with here at the NFL Network and just in general. It's awesome, dude. Aaron, I'm going to let you sign us off here with the music because this was it. The draft draft. What's up, Doc? Can we mock everyone watching NFL Draft coverage next week on NFL Network? DJ, thank you, bro. Thank you, buddy. The season with Peter Schrager is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. The 2023 NFL Draft is right around the corner and the Move the Sticks podcast has you covered for all your draft needs. The show is hosted by me, Daniel Jeremiah and my partner, Buckle Brooks. When it comes to Kansas City and the draft, Move the Sticks is the podcast that will answer all of your questions. Who's going at the top of the draft? Who's going to potentially slide? Don't worry. Tune in and you'll be ready to watch the draft like a skimp. Subscribe now and listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the iHeartRadio app on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.