University of Michigan Defenders in the NFL This Season + Lions vs. Packers TNF Preview

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But I say we jump right in here because I want to focus on the defensive side of the ball and I don't think there's a mystery that you've seen. The Michigan Wolverines take over the big 10 and it hasn't just been because of Jim Harbaugh and his coaching. It's also been because of the players that they've gone out recruited and developed and specifically on the defensive side of the ball and we're seeing that translate to the next level. Look, this is not just because our producer Drew is Michigan guy. This was actually my idea, so I'll take the bullets on this one from my big 10 co-host here with Rhett who's already, he's Bucky's already frustrated, you can already see this roll in his eyes, shaking his head. Yeah. But I was thinking about that. Yeah. I always think about factories, right? What schools produce certain positions? We've talked about it with the LSU and Ohio State wide receivers, the job that they've done over the years. There's tight ends, think about Iowa and Notre Dame have produced a lot of tight ends. I think one of the underrated factories right now is edge rushers at the University of Michigan. You can see it right there in front of us, 14 and a half sacks by Michigan defenders. So guys who played their college ball at Michigan in the NFL, that's the most of any college in the league so far through three weeks. So it is a list of guys in the 18-huggets in Quitte Pay, Rashon Gary, even Mike Dan is getting after a little bit. Rhett, any of those guys stand out to you, have you had a chance to peek at any of them and then Bucky, you can follow them up there? A couple of things. By the way, do you remember yesterday? When I was talking about Justin Fields on the show or on Monday, when I was talking about Justin Fields on the show and I mentioned the second play, the right guard got absolutely destroyed. But it was Mike Dan, that actually was part of that. I didn't call it out at the time, but yeah, so he's obviously doing quite well in the interior there for the Kansas City Chiefs. You know what this is kind of interesting because I was thinking about this and I want to disclaimer, I love Ryan Day as a coach. Okay? I feel like when you get some high-o out here, okay? We're talking about all this Michigan, a love what he's done at Ohio State, he's the perfect guy for that job. But you know the turn, because we used to think about Ohio State in this way, right? Joey Boas, Nick Boas, Chase Young, and they had that run up at the top of the draft. Well kind of ever since the pendulum shifted into Michigan's favor, you kind of look back and it's kind of been those edge rushers that have really kind of taken over and have been those bigger pieces of their teams, you know, impact at the college level and then obviously continuing it into the national football league. So Rashad Gary is one of those guys that, you know, we thought, you know, he was a super highly recruited dude and I think the folks in Michigan will tell you they probably expected a little bit more, you know, out of him while he was there. But you always knew he had that ridiculous potential and that putticism and he was going to reach that at the next level and he really has, I mean, since coming back from the injury, he's been fantastic. I thought the Falcons actually did a pretty good job on him kind of making him think a little bit and, you know, he wants to go, you know, ears pinned back, get into the back field, get to the quarterback, but you know, they had some of that mesh game working with Ritter and Beijon and so they kind of eliminated that a little bit. But boy, the Saints ran into a buzz saw with Gary this week. I mean, Spencer Penny got some Ryan Ramcheck, got some twice, they even put a sixth offensive lineman out there outside of Ramcheck to kind of lengthen the runway to the quarterback that didn't matter. Beat him like a drum and got to James Winston once Derek Carr was out. And by the way, it was in Rishan Gary sack that unfortunately took Derek Carr out of the game. He's been really, really good and he comes off both sides. They can move him around. It's a lot of fun to watch for the Packers there, but you know, it was funny. Rishan Gary, the evaluation was hard because he was more athlete than playmaker doing his time at Michigan. Well, the guy I'm going to talk about, Aiden Hutchison was playmaker and athlete. He saw at his final season at Michigan where he just crushed it off the edge. He's continued to crush it in the national football league. Aiden Hutchison is an absolute monster coming off the edge and as this Detroit Lions team kind of steps into being a contender, playoff contender, maybe eventual title contender, a lot of it will be due to their ability to improve on defense. And that defense is led by a guy who's an energizer bunny off the edge at Aiden Hutchison. He talked about being so successful coming off the edge. He's going to have to practice new dances. He's running out of material after he sacked the quarterback because he didn't know that he would be able to get to the quarterback as often. And I know Dan Campbell and Aaron Glenn love the fact that he's able to put consistent pressure on the quarterback. As this team continues to play in these big games as he gets closer to making their playoff run, Aiden Hutchison is going to be a guy to get a lot of attention because he is the most dominant player on their front line. Yeah, I'll go back and look through my notes when I'm back and watch these guys. Aiden Hutchison on going through PFF and watching the video on the cutups, 21 pressures. He of all these guys moves around everywhere. I mean, he is standing up. He's in, he's head up over a tight end. He's in the inside shade of a tackle. They'll play him in some three technique stuff, let him rush over guards. Like he moves up and down the line, hand down, stand it up. He can do anything. His versatility is a big asset to that defense. And depending on the matchup, we always talk about find that tomato can, like who is the weak link of that offensive line. Aiden Hutchison has that ability to go over that guy and get after him and make things happen. He can do it with speed. He can do it with power. Anyways, just the most versatile of all of these guys. He talked about Roshan Gary, you know, that is, he's the most twitched up. Just how expensive he is. He saw the testing numbers that he had coming out. He's a freak. He's not as polished and not as versatile as Hutchinson, but he's more dynamic, more explosive. And then the one we didn't had a chance to hit on yet that I want to touch on his quipay, I went back and looked up my notes on him coming out. He was someone he was, he was 6024261. He ran 457. So you're talking about again, crazy explosive. Moved around the defense at Michigan. He's better when he has a runway on the edge. He's explosive. He plays with violence. He has to play run to pass at times so they didn't just totally cut him loose there. But you could really see him close down the backside and he's strong. So let's fast forward to what he's shown. He's got a sack in each of the three games this year. He's got nine pressures when he's on the edge. They widen him out. They get him in that four point track stance. I mean, they run a lot of that jet front stuff that we talked about with the Niners. The jets run at the Eagles run at where they put him out there and they literally cut him loose. And that's where you see that speed, the power that he has just kind of coming out of that track stance. And then all these guys, if you look at all of them going through all my notes, the effort buck is phenomenal. And that's like the underrated aspect of past pressures is effort and finish. They're obviously getting that at Michigan. That's something that Michigan deserves a lot of credit for because these guys play. They play hard. They play a hundred miles an hour and they get some cleanup work as well. It's just winning right off the snap. All right. Let's get to some of these new defensive coordinators. Talk about some of the individual defensive players have an impact. How about some of these coordinators going to new spots and making it work? You see there at the top of the list points per game allowed. Jim Shorts taken over in Cleveland. They are number one in the league. You see these other name Steve Wilkes with the with the Niners. Joe Woods with the Saints Ryan Nielsen with the Falcons. Those guys are all top seven and points allowed. And then Arizona Nick Rouse. It tied for 16th also Jonathan Ganon helping with that defense as well. But it's interesting, Buck, when you see these guys, new coordinators, new guys in charge and you see instant success. That tells me a lot about not only how bright these guys are and how well their team responds to them. I think it says a lot about the marriage of the scheme they're running and the players they have. Yeah, absolutely. I don't think it's a coincidence that two of the guys at the top of the list. Jim Shorts and Steve Wilkes are experienced coordinators. Done it for a long time. They know how to kind of call games in this league. And as you pointed out, they understand how to fit the scheme around the players that they have. Jim Shorts is the one that I've really been excited about. Because this Cleveland team, we've talked about it for the last couple of years and terms of how loaded their roster is. When now they have a coach on the defense of the ball, they really knows how to utilize the personnel. Miles Garrett, three and a half sacks on a day. Jim Shorts is absolutely unlocking Miles Garrett. And to think about the talent that Miles Garrett has, and what he's been able to do in the league before Jim Shorts gets there, the fact that everyone knows that he is the point on the sword. He is the go-to guy, but Shorts is still able to get him. Those one-on-one matchups, it talks to the schematics that he's able to bring and how this team is really going. I'm excited to see the Browns kind of stepping into who they are. They are a defensively team that is able to run the football and do some of the things on offense. But is that defense that's going to carry them for? This team, we've talked about it. This team is a sneaky title contender. There's Jim Shorts keeps calling it, like he's calling it. This team is going to be one of the teams that's the last one standing in the end. Yeah, and if the Sean Watson gives us more of what we saw this past week, from the quarterback spot and continues to build on that, I would agree with you, Bucky. And, you know, DJ, you had the me a couple on one day with the Cardinals. And I think everybody's got to take a little bit of that messaging moving forward here. And I think a big piece of this is what they've done on defense. And it really shouldn't come as a huge surprise, even though we can all, you know, make the assessment that the Eagles defensive personnel is a lot better still than what the Cardinals have. And Jonathan Ganon pushed all the right buttons with that Eagles team. You know, these last couple of years now comes over to the Cardinals. And I think you've got to give him, and you've got to give Nick Rouse a ton of credit for putting the guys that they have in the best possible positions to make place. And I think what you're also seeing is that a team that may be a little bit, you know, less than in terms of perceived talent compared to the rest of the league, you have a good solid defense that you feel comfortable with, that you can rely on. And it's going to serve you well. And they're obviously causing problems for offenses that we thought were going to be a lot more capable, you know, look at the giants. Look at the Cowboys each of the last two weeks. Now they blew that game against the giants, but they were in position. They've been in position in the fourth quarter in all of these games. And that defense, DJ is a big reason why I think we've got to give Rouse and Ganon and that whole defensive staff. And, you know, those guys like Xavier Collins and David have good a baker. Has it been available for him for this whole season? So I'm really impressed with the way that they've kind of rallied the troops there. Yeah, it's interesting. When you look at it, we always talk about finishing. We just talked about it a little earlier about those Michigan pass restures. The effort they play within the finish. I was pulling up some of these numbers on the Arizona Cardinals to speak to the importance of finishing. They are 23rd and pressures. Okay, they're 23rd and pressures. Okay, towards the bottom. They are dead last in hits and quarterback hits. They're 32nd. They're 7th and sacks. So they're not getting a ton of pressure. They're not hitting the quarterback a ton. But when they get back there, they finish and they make those things count as you just said, Rhett. So hats off to them. They have done a nice job there. Jonathan Ganon deserves a lot of credit for how hardest groups plan. They are not super talented. I mean, we weren't off base when we said what we said before the season started. This looks like a team that should probably have the first pick in next year's draft. That's it's going to be a long slog. But they're maximizing what they do have. And when they've got opportunities, they're making place. So nicely done there by Jonathan Ganon with the Arizona Cardinals. All right, we'll take a quick break when we come back. We've got, we've got some more work to do here. We're not done. We'll finish this thing up right after this. Football fans, the NFL is back in the around the NFL podcast is all you need for news and fresh content about our league. Join me, Dan Hanzis and my buds. Mark Sessler and Greg Rosenthal for the latest football news with just a touch of mirth around the NFL is a serious football podcast that does not take itself too seriously. That's important. We've been doing this together for over a decade. 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And your little phone says, one hour 36 minutes. Come on. Give it to me quick. I've given it you in 10 minutes. You can listen to this on your cigarette break on your commute. You can listen to it in the bathroom anytime you want. 10 takes in 10 minutes. This whole show is going to be like we're dismantling a bomb. Like we're Jack Bauer. We have an actual clock. If I run out of time, that's on me. It's over. The thing will blow up in my face. Kyle Brent. 10 takes 10 minutes. It's on iHeart. It's on Apple Podcast. It's wherever you get your podcast. Like everybody always says, you know how to get a podcast at this point. 10 takes. Get that one. All right, Thursday night football. This is a this is a juicy one. It's a divisional matchup. It's two teams that are off to good starts this year. I feel like this is a collision course for the division. I don't think that's going out on much of a limb there. It's pretty obvious. It's the Lions and the Packers Thursday night at Lambo Field. And Buck, you know, you know the environment there at Lambo, especially in a night game. That place is going to be absolutely rocking. And Jordan Love gets his first taste of this rivalry. What are your expectations on the green base side of this thing? The next rotation is Jordan Love to continue to take another step. This is a huge game for Jordan Love because he's coming off to come back when that kind of maybe kind of solidified himself from most of fans base as the next guy. And now you have an opportunity to kind of maybe take care of the team that knocked your team out of the playoffs. And so if he steps his game up, you talk about this environment being absolutely bananas. Jordan Love can feed off that energy. And if he feeds off the energy and continues to play the way that he's played in the position, the green-bay Packers are going to be where they want to be at the end of the year. This young quarterback is figuring it out. This team is figuring out a new way to play post-airing Rodgers. Jordan Love has a big game ahead. But if he plays well, man, the fan base and all his teammates are really going to love how he's progressing as their new QB1. A Bucky, I love how you kind of real-time really talked yourself into that on Love being the guy now. And green-bay, you're like, well, and no, yes. And there it is. Like, I'm with you too, man. I kind of talked myself into it this week after watching that fourth quarter. That was a lot of fun. This is a dude that's starting to feel it, right? That's starting to get comfortable and confident in what he's being asked to do. And then going out there and executing it. I think, you know, that there's still some things to clean up there. Obviously, the first three-quarters weren't pretty. But again, this is a team that was playing without Christian Watts and Bhaktiari, Elton Jenkins, Aaron Jones. I mean, like, the list goes on and on, arguably, you know, four of their best players on offense, maybe V4 best outside of Jordan Love. So, I really like if they can start getting a little bit healthier that this team, and it'll be, I think that'll be dependent, you know, especially in a game against the Lions here with, you know, guys like Hutchinson coming off the edge or in the interior wherever the heck he's going to be, as we already talked about, it's going to be important to have your best offensive line out there. To have Aaron Jones available to you, if you need it, you know, both in the run in the past game. But I just like the way that Jordan Love is starting to kind of grow into this thing here. And it was clear in that fourth quarter, man. This is his team. This is his offense. He's taking ownership of it. And he's giving his best when his best is required. And I thought that was awesome to see that first game-winning comeback, that first game-winning drive for Jordan Love as QB1 in Green Bay might come down to that DJ against his Lions team. Yeah, this is a Lions team that, you know, they're comfortable going in there. This is a group that just went in there at the end of the season last year and do what they needed to do. Jared Goff playing with a lot of confidence. This is a team that I think has the ability to go in there, handle that. It's not going to be big for them. Primetime game. It's not, they've been there, done that. And it's a young team with that confidence, which is rare to find. Normally you get kind of a young impressionable play-hard group where you get an old veteran. Maybe you don't have quite the athleticism. But they're handled a moment. This Lions team feels like it's ready for that. So it's a different challenge that Jordan Love presents. It's a different looking offense than what they saw. We'll see what happens with the Packers on the Health Front. But if I'm the Lions right now, Buck, I'm feeling good about it. I'll tell you what the two rookies might be. One of the reasons why I feel so good about it. Sam Laporte, what he's doing on offense. Jameer Gibbs in the back field. Those guys are playmakers from day one. They fit right into this offense. It works. You can talk about Jack Campbell on the defensive side of the ball. They've got a lot of pieces, a lot of young pieces that are playing really well right now. They do, and don't even forget about Brian Branch, because he's been playing at a high level. No, he's been in playing kind of that nickel safety role. He's been terrific. This is a team, and you look at the Detroit Lions in terms of a team that really fits the personality of the coach. They are a gritty bunch. We can talk about their defense, and we've talked about it before. But, obviously, the way that they can morph into whatever they need to in-game action, meaning they can throw it all over the yard with Jerry Goff, but they also, when it gets tough for them, they can line up and run the football behind it, talents it offensive line. This is a team that is built for the long call. I like what I'm seeing from Detroit, and so this is why this is such a big game. Two young teams, two teams that are trying to find their way in the NFC. Man, the winner gets to take a step up in the division and kind of inch closer to securing the division title and making a playoff run. Yeah, yeah, I think so. And I think there's a lot to like about, not just the running back spot in the young players that we've been talking about with the Lions, but Amonra St. Brown, obviously, if he stays healthy, and I know he's kind of been a bit banged up, he's kind of one of those 7-11 options for Jerry Goff. Feels like you just always fine. I've always opened somewhere. And I think the offensive line that they put together there in Detroit is a lot of fun to watch, too, with Ragnar and Pennay Soule, and when Taylor Decker comes back healthy, but Graham Klaskow up there, Jonah Jackson, like they've got some dudes that fit what Dan Campbell is, what this offense is. And I think we still got to give a ton of credit to what Ben Johnson's been able to do as one of those kind of offensive ingenuity, you know, relatively inexperienced younger play callers that continues to rise and elevate what he does to find the best place, you know, to put these guys in good positions to win. So there's, you know, then this defense is playing a lot better than it was, you know, especially during the first half of last season, it's, man, it's going to be a heck of a Thursday nighter. That's for sure. Yeah, and this is a Alliance offense, by the way. They're eighth in the league with 19 explosives. So in the passing. Yeah, so they've been able to give big chunks, uh, honorifics. Josh Reynolds, a big part of that and think about, yeah, no, they've spread it around in a nice job. The crazy thing, though, looking at this 19 explosive. That's a big number, tight for eighth. The Dolphins 35. So the dolphins, let's leave the dolphins in your own category at this point in time early in the season. But in explosive offense for Detroit and Jordan Love, leading a Green Bay team that is off to an excellent start. So a big time matchup on Thursday night. All right, this was not, this was not on the list. But I haven't had a chance to talk to you guys about this. So I'm going to add this to the list. The Oregon Colorado game that we saw last week. Oh, okay. Got a lot of attention. Obviously, yeah, not just because the Oregon, you know, was able to get after it and had a big win over, uh, or Coach Prime and that Colorado group. But because of the pregame speech, the Dan landing gave, which personally had no problem with whatsoever. It made its way onto the broadcast. And then I feel like Buck people came off the top rope with opinions, uh, foreign against, uh, I found that kind of funny. If, by the way, if you could see everybody's pregame speech, that is one on a scale of one to a hundred of what you can get to. But anyways, yeah, I didn't get your take on that Buck and Rhett. So I'll, uh, I'll listen to see what you got to say. I'll look at this is what's going to happen when you're a team like Colorado, who has been very, I won't say in your face, but they've kind of given us all access to their program. So we've heard everything behind the scenes and front of the camera about Colorado. We come in and audit other stuff. And so, um, Prime is always going to get a lot of attention. And sometimes that brings about some, some, not some jealousy, but maybe some envy from other programs who also would like to have that light shed on their programs. What you saw was, I would say, a brilliant motivational tactic by Dan Lening, 14. That was a three or four touchdown favorite to make them feel like they've been disrespected by another team. And so you're always looking for something to kind of set the fire to spark your team. He did a great job of playing to the cameras in pregame, but also kind of hitting that switch for his team. And I would say the bigger part was how he carried that, that anger, that intensity to the field where they're going for it on, on fourth and forever fake punts kind of getting it going. So I understand it. And everyone who supports Prime who doesn't like Prime, this is where we are. This is college football. This is the WWE taking over college football. I like this because rather than having this fake stuff like we like everybody, no, it should be contentious. It's a game. My team versus your team. Let's get after it. I like it. Yeah, this feels like to me, it's unfortunate. It's the last year of the pack 12, but it feels like the south and the southern style of college football. If you think about the SEC, think about going back to old school, Miami, Florida state out in the ACC, this is what that or the big east, I guess what it would have been way back in the day. But this is a, this is a southern brand of football where they take it seriously. Think about Jimbo Fisher calling out Nick Saban. Think about all the stuff you've seen over the years. You saw it with Ed Ordron. We've seen it with Lane Kiffin. Like there's all these personal rivalries and wars. I think even last year, gosh, who was it? We had, oh, man. Oh, Shane Beamer, I think put on the sunglasses and did all. Oh, he's talking about who they were playing. Do you remember that? South Carolina Clips and yeah. Yeah, kick it. Thank you. Thank you. So they're always, this has always taken place in the south. We're in the west coast. It's just been this nice. Let's play nice with each other. And all of a sudden, Deon brought some swagger. Dan Lanning coming from Georgia. This is, this is how they talk. This is how they talk in that comments. Everything is personal. Everything is a war. And you're trying to go out there and just, you know, beat people up fairly within the lines and talk about it while you do it. That's why it's so fun to see it finally come this way. Red unfortunately, it's like, yeah, it's a, we finally get to see it. And then the whole conference goes away. Give me more of it, okay? Like this is, this is amazing theater. I like, come on. Like this is why we love college football. Like bringing this stuff back and getting away from the boring, like, you're great. We're great. You're like, no, no, no, no. Tell us how you really feel. And then, you know, going out there and telling your team that I thought that was great news. I thought it was good that you retraced Dan Lanning to Georgia because you remember, I was sitting up at the very top level in the auxiliary media section at SoFi Stadium. When Kirby Smart got on the program, got on the podium after winning a second straight national title and goes, nobody thought we could do it. I was like, what? One to one wire wire thought you were going to do it. And the point is, it does not matter what the external thought and perception is. It's how you communicate that message to your team, the way you want them to play. And that's exactly what Dan Lanning did. And I hope he does it every week. And that's for all the stuff on the field with the decision-making, you know, decision-making, remember the Titans? Leave no doubt, run it up. Like they would just go get after it, man. Like that's, I love a little bit of, you know, uneasiness, you know, when a college football game ends and like in the lead up to the game, like just kind of brings the tension. I'm all for it here. Yeah, to me, guys, I guess I should, I don't want to leave out the Midwest because if you think about Ohio State Michigan, that's that's been a little testy over the years, right? What was it? Who was it? A little test. Our producer, you can get in my ear. Was it, was it, was it what he has when I asked him, why'd you go for two? And he said, because they wouldn't let me go for three. I can't remember. Yeah. I can't remember. Yeah. I can't remember. Where's Lou Holtz? Where's Lou Holtz? Yeah. I got into it. By the way, by the way, quick, quick, quick on that one, Buck. Did you, were you watching that? Did you get a chance to see the Ohio State ending there against Notre Dame when Notre Dame had 10 on two plays in a row? What do we do? Oh, look, man, you talk about, you talk, you talk about, like, just kind of being blown away. And we've had Marcus Freeman on the show. And I look, I love him. I love what they're doing at Notre Dame. But to me, the last three minutes, they mismanage how you coach their game. We can talk about what they had on offense and how they could have forced Ohio State to burn up the timeouts. But then, even in that situation, game is on the line. And I know you're a short one, and you don't want to burn a timeout and have the penalty and do those things. But it's a half yard. It's like this much, like that much. Like, you give them that. Put 11 on the field and see if you can stop them. Just don't just don't give them a super advantage like that. 11 on 10, that's one that's hard. And that'll be hard for that fan base to forget if it goes sour for Notre Dame later in the season. Yeah, I mean, to me, the last thing I'll kind of button it up on that one is, and I don't remember, Marcus Freeman actually calling the defense. I was thinking about this the other day. I was talking about this with someone the other day about in the NFL, the challenge of calling the defense and then being ahead coach because you're trying to think two plays ahead. And then some of the bigger picture stuff in terms of timeouts, clock management. I know you have people in your ear, but it's different. It's got to be a lot less stressful buck as a head coach. And you do it. I mean, you're on a high school level. The difference between being able to just be the head coach versus have to be thinking as a play caller, you offense or defense. I feel like this stuff has a chance to pop up more often. It does have a chance to pop up. I think Elle Golden is calling the defense and Marcus is around the body. Look, I'll see it, man. You still always learning as a head coach and Marcus is learning real time. It's unfortunate. He's learning on maybe arguably the biggest brand that you can do it on in college football. And so those egregious mistakes are spotlighted more. He's done a really good job because I always say this. I thought they were in control of the game for most of the game in terms of how they played it. It's just unfortunate that they didn't finish it and they didn't finish it. I always say maybe due to some coaching full-pods that cost him. That Ryan Davis hot after the game too. He let Lou Holtz get under skin a little bit. He was fired up on that one. Ohio. It's Ohio for everybody. Ohio versus the water body. For everybody. Yeah. I love it. I did. I'm the only team. That's all. I didn't know that. I didn't know it was Ohio versus the world all the time. I didn't know it. I needed somebody to tell me that. I didn't know. I didn't know. I thought it was always Detroit. I thought that's innocent Michigan. I thought it was Detroit versus everyone. I didn't know it was just Ohio. The whole state now. Clearly you did not do your homework. It's Ohio versus the entire world. The universe. The entire universe against Ohio. All right. This is a fun one today, guys. We had a lot to get into. I feel a little covered a lot of ground. We've got more coming your way all week here with the fellas. So be on the lookout for that. In the meantime, appreciate it. We'll see you next time on Move the Sticks. Hey, this is Mike Wright from the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty podcast. You heard that right. The fantasy footballers have officially entered the dynasty space every week. We bring you the same in-depth analysis and entertainment. You've come to expect from the fantasy footballers only now is from the dynasty perspective. Join me in the rest of the crew every Wednesday for a new episode. 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