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Welcome back to another episode of NFT catcher podcast. We'd like to remind everybody that nothing on the show is meant as financial advice and to please do your own research. Thank you and enjoy the show. Now the subject is NFT. They're known as non-fungible tokens or NFTs. NFTs are floating in popularity. This is a technology that will help ever change the way people interact. So it is happening whether you understand it and like it or not. You have now joined Jenny from the blockchain and Michael Keane on the NFT catcher podcast. What's up everyone and welcome back to another episode of the NFT catcher podcast with me Jenny from the blockchain and my co-host Michael Keane. For today's Sunday recap we have a little something different for you guys. I don't think we've ever done something like this before but basically we have three of the people from the Tally Labs team joining us right now. Basically they're going to join us for the first half hour of this show. We're going to see what they're up to over at Tally Labs and then we are going to for the second half hour of the show we're going to talk about what is going on in the NFT space. So without further ado, Ape Wood, Salsa and Valley Jones. Welcome back to the show. Thanks for having us, Jenny. Thanks for having us, Michael. I mean it's you guys bringing great vibes. So Sunday night but I feel a little electric. I feel like I've my days just started with you guys. Let's go. Yeah. I was just saying before this that Ape Wood we met at the Jenkins DeValley party like a year ago and we kind of haven't really talked since. So it'll it'll be nice to catch up. And then Salsa and Valley Jones we had on the pod. I don't know. Probably also like a year ago. I think yeah. I think it was. Was it maybe it wasn't that long? If I remember correctly, you guys were actually scheduled to come on when the controversy happened and had to push it a few weeks. So when was that? Was that a year ago already? That was September. Okay. So it was probably like October, November or something. Yeah. Michael has the memories. That's how they really want to know that party where you guys met was November 2021. See, you just have a better memory than me. But that's okay. That was the first date. That was the first NFTNYC that everybody went to. Was it really? Right. Oh, I thought it was like the second that it was the second one. That was not the first part. He was the second one. Okay. That could be. When I think about NFTNYC, I think about that first November one. That was you know, that's like the first time I feel like the whole space was meeting each other in person. That's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely a lot more people at that one than the one within the year prior. But I'm super curious to know what you guys have going on. I mean, we haven't, you know, really heard about, I mean, I feel like we have a lot to talk about. But as far as Azerbaijan, because that was kind of when you guys last came onto the on the pod, like that's the main thing you guys were talking about. And then I don't know what just seemed like things got a bit quiet. Like you guys were building behind the scenes. And you know, now things are things are happening again. So let us know kind of what has happened since you last came on the pod to now. And and what you guys are coming out with wants to take it. You know, I mean, you guys want me to jump in and you can, you can, you can follow. That was great. Amazing. I think it's probably easiest if we just take it sort of like vertical by vertical. And I think if you guys are cool, we'd love to spend a lot of time talking about Azerbaijan, because unfortunately for those who didn't know us prior, there's a lot of folks who that was like our, their first experience with Italian labs sort of product. I don't even want to say product because it was a reveal, but like a, you know, a reflection of us. And I think, you know, you mentioned it, but we ended up having to push that, that podcast back with you guys because we were just in like it, we were, it was, I don't want to say chaos mode, but it was like, it was, it was a really tough time for the company. It's a really tough time for the community. A lot of work had been put in. It was like a pretty anticipated release. And we let a lot of people down. And so, you know, for the, really, I mean, the last like nine months, but certainly for the first month or so following that, we were, we were just heads down focused on nothing, but figuring out how we could course correct, you know, that ship, analyzing where it went wrong the first time, all while trying to make sure that, you know, the community is able to kind of stay, stay excited and stick with us, which is a hard thing to do. You know, you mentioned, we went quiet for a while. We did. We, we were getting sort of some mixed feedback as well as just, you know, we were internally trying to trying to think about, hey, do we want to be more out there and let people know that the work is getting done or do we want to put our heads down, do it. And then, you know, it might sting for a little while, but then come up in like a great place. And so we can definitely talk a little bit more about that. But yeah, we dove into why, why everything went wrong. And I think, you know, if you fast forward to now, we're in a pretty good spot. We completely revamped the artist, brought in an amazing creative director, tapped the community to hear exactly what it is that they wanted out of the PFPs and are making. And according to that, and a whole, a whole bunch of other stuff, all that, you know, VJ, and Abe would touch on. But, um, but yeah, it was, it was a really tough time. But I think we're finally now out of it. Obviously, there's so much work to be done to build like a successful product and world and, and PFP and all of that. But the art is great. And, and the community's really excited about it. Books are being burned. I don't have the exact number in front of me. But, um, there's quite a few azurets out there, which is really exciting. Oh, before Abe would go, is just a kind of, I guess, remind people of like, okay, wait, what are they talking about again? If you maybe remember back in, I guess September, Azerbaijan, you guys came out with a reveal on what the art was going to be. And basically, just space the bunch of backlash on it. Like, people really didn't like the art. So then, you know, I mean, so many memes and everything were kind of born out of that. Like, it was kind of just all over NFT Twitter. And then you guys acted really quickly and we're like, okay, well, we don't want to just put out stuff that people don't like. Like, we're going to go back to the drawing board and, you know, really figure out what the community wants. So that's kind of a little bit of context there. Abe would go ahead. I was going to pass it to VJ real quick. Sorry. Uh, who we're just, we're throwing it all around the more. And you had, um, Jenny, uh, that context was super helpful. And I think even like, just to back up, uh, step before that, uh, before I throw it back to Abe Wood, who has just been like so instrumental in, in, in taking, you know, Azerbaijan from where it was in that reveal that you just mentioned to, to what we are at today. For anybody who's listening, who like, doesn't even necessarily know like tally labs, I think what we were originally known for is creating Jenkins the valet. Uh, and so Jenkins the valet, uh, is a character that soft and I built, uh, on top of a board eight, uh, eight, 1798. And then, you know, ultimately is, is what allowed us, you know, the Jenkins writers room project, um, allowed us to really create tally labs, build a whole community around like character creation and, uh, building on top of the IP that we all hold with like our NFTs, uh, eventually we raised a seed round from Andreessen Horowitz and a bunch of other awesome investors. And when we looked at sort of creating Azerbaijan, like we're really why we, we decided to build a PFP project at all to begin with was, um, we had had this awesome experience creating Jenkins the valet inside of the BAYC ecosystem. We learned a whole bunch about like, what it meant to be a participant within like a broader community, what it meant to build as a community member to build alongside fellow community members. We obviously learned like a ton of amazing things, you know, from, you know, the early Yuga team with how to cultivate a community and stuff like that as we were participating with Jenkins. And so we felt that we had taken, you know, a lot of those learnings and could package that up in a really exciting way for a community to come to life through Azerbaijan. And so that's really the story for how you get from like Jenkins LA to this world that we're now working on and this project, right, with these PFPs that are coming that we call azureans. It's really born out of the fact that like through our experience building Jenkins, you know, we felt that we had like this really sort of novel approach to what it means to like build community around a project. And I think you know, a lot of our followers from the early days and a lot of our community members, new Jenkins and knew that. But then you get that like explosion on the day of the V1 reveal, right? And I think by and large, what most people know about Azerbaijan is those, is those early PFPs. And so a lot of the time we spent over the last six months was just like breaking it all down and like building back from scratch with the community. And with our team internally of which apewood has been just like, you know, an absolutely critical piece. And so even if you heard like our silence for temporarily when you asked us the first question where you were like, what happened since then? A lot of it, you know, for me and Safa is like, oh, well, like, let's have apewood unmute because he's done so much. And so we're super excited to be joined by him tonight because there's obviously a lot that he's got to share about what we're going on. Yeah, I think it was, I mean, it was, uh, it was, we said it again, but it was a reset period. There's a saying that it's okay to go away for a period until you find yourself again. And I think with the Zarian V1 reveal, you said it extremely nicely, Jenny, like that we got bash forward and like the art was bad. Like you said, it's very nicely. So thank you. But, um, the art wasn't good. Uh, we all know it, but we went back to the drawing board, pulled the community, we built in public with what we wanted these Zarian PIP to look like. Um, we assembled a community council. We sounded artists council top arts in this space. We brought out a creative director that's worked at the top of the industry. Um, so while we went, why we were still connected to the community and building alongside them, but it was also a balance of like, you just need to get things done and then push this thing forward because we had missed on the first real. So we needed to move things forward quickly. Um, it was a reset period. And now we're, we're back bringing energy with it. Oh, and we're really excited about Zarian. Yeah. And the art also like, Michael and I talked about it on the last Sunday recap. We saw the art while we were recording. We're like, oh, yeah, I think those are all over the field art. And we were looking at it. We're like, these looks so cool. Like they look, I mean, obviously, significantly better. Like, you know, you guys have said it to go with the 2D. Like, I mean, they look awesome. So props to whoever, you know, was kind of in charge of that. And I mean, obviously the community helps and, and whatnot. But yeah, I'm so excited for you guys. And, you know, I know there's a lot, a lot of exciting things ahead. Um, you know, it was just a tiny bump in the road. But I know there were so many people, you know, after that whole art controversy happened. Like, that were just pledging their support to you guys and really rooting for you. So, um, to see that much love and respects, you know, being given to you guys was like, oh, wow. Like, people really, you know, they really care about tally labs, Jenkins, azure bala. It's just obviously something like this happens. It's like, okay, everyone's good. Take their turns getting the jobs and for the engagement. But it was cool to see everybody's support, you know, around you guys after that. Yeah, totally. And you said a couple of things that actually are like have, I think, really gone into like the azure and brand like in this refresh. But the first is, um, you know, definitely like with like the support from the community. I think, uh, a realization that we had, you know, immediately and it's something that I think is like the reason why we like keep fighting to improve it and to come back is that, uh, and Sophos says this a lot is so true. As hard as it was for us as like company and tie labs and like creators ourselves, like it was harder for the community, right? Like folks who believed in what we were doing and were so excited, they created, you know, the blueprints for projects that would exist in this world and in this community or businesses or characters or anything, they just were participants. And then they saw that, right? And you can imagine how disappointing that is, right? Like, we all felt it. And for people to feel that way and to show support and to stick with it, like, and to like show that resilience, I think like that actually probably brought out more resilience and us and like gave us like the ability to persevere really like more than anything else. And so Azerbaijan, this refreshed Azerbaijan is different than the original one in a lot of ways because of like the lessons learned and the scars that we picked up through the V1 going so badly. And yet the community like kept pushing on. And so we've worked really hard to try to capture like that energy and that ethos and package that up with the new PFPs, but beyond the PFPs, like also with what we aim to do with like the brand, you know, as a whole. Michael, do you have a staging? Yeah, no, absolutely. Well, first off, it's very nice to have you guys back. You are the rare second appearance on the show so far. There's only been a handful of people who've got back. It shows a respect. Wasn't the original drop was probably just about two years ago, right? Summer of 21. Yeah, we started building the brand in like late May early June. Late May early June? Yeah. And then the first and then the drop was August 4th, I think. Okay. So coming up on tears, that's pretty cool. For full disclosure, I still have three tickets and six books and you remind me. So I wanted to ask mechanically, when is the deadline for burning the books? Yeah, the deadline for burning your books is July 24th. Oh, cool. There have been close to 8,000 books burned already. So we started. Yeah, there. So we started with a book supply of like, and this is rough numbers, but it was 14.8,000 books. I'm ending around there. There've been 8,000 or so, or we're moving close to 8,000 books burned. 8,000 burned. And to burn it, did I read right? You have to, do you burn a book for a reader? What was the point zero eight? Is that to actually get the the PFP with the reader? Yeah, there is no zero point zero eight each anymore. So you just put a book and the azure acts of effectively as an azure invent pass. It still says it on the website, I think, just as it heads up. Is it the new azure all website? I was probably not. It's the Jenkins, the valley website. I pulled it out just because I was just azure all and I think that we will close that back. Azure all in jank and writers room are separate ecosystems and will be separate. Got you. Okay. So there's so you get the root. The root is effectively an azure invent pass. And that can be redeemed for an azure and after the burn window closes, burn window closes on July 26th. But Michael, you'll want to burn your books before this Thursday, the 29th, before there's a night to be entered into our final raffle of a one of one golden azure. There's the alpha right there. I got to be holding an azure to be eligible for that. We use chain link BRF and we can drop the wave one of one azure to the winner. And just and the only thing need to be eligible for that drop is holding azure. It's one azure. It's one entry. So obviously the burn window closes July 26th, but it'd be probably best just to take that for your raffle. Got you. Can you tell us a little something about if you what is it you stake it? And is there still that doubt going on? If you have a choice or do you just or is burned the only option now? Because I got my info from the Jenkins website. I probably should have gone to the azure bala website. Yeah, there is no more staking for a hot darned that was a pretty as pretty as announced in like last summer. I'm one of this was announced and saw to be completely jump in. But when that previously was introduced in road map V2, I believe from the writers room side of things, obviously the regulatory landscape was in a completely different state than where it is today. The screwing down government is so much sure. Early as folks as it is today and ERC 20s are now extremely under the microscope with the SEC and everything. So what we're doing with that is we're no longer doing ERC 20 tokens with staking the books. Instead, you'll be able there's going to be the ethos of what Hawthorne was was partial ownership of Jenkins the bala, Jenkins the neat and good boy IP. That'll be just transferred into writers room NFTs. The board and dangerous book can act as a tier multiplier in and in and of itself there. But primarily the main reason and you would want to hold the book behind is if you want to claim the physical of the book. There will be a book as a book down the line and I think obviously since the first ever community generative book I think that could be a cool like relic item, especially from a physical standpoint. So most people that are kind of holding one to two books back primarily for the physical and yep. Yeah, yeah, I made the one that that's a good idea. Do you have any ballpark timeline on that on the physical? Yeah, not right now. We're still working towards it, but I know ballpark timing. I think we need to see we want to see how many there are first because that would sort of dictate sort of like costs and order quantities and help us figure out the manufacture that we end up going with. Under percent. So the other the other question I had like the NFT space. I mean, you guys know it as well as anybody. It's all about like a quote unquote vibe and like which projects shoot up to five each and you guys for a long the longest time had that vibe and it probably felt amazing like you guys were the ones that were shooting up and everybody was all about it. It was such an awesome project so much back and maybe talk a little bit about like what that's like and what you guys are doing to try and get the vibe back and like capture the attention of everybody again if you know what I mean. It's a question for a thread guy director of lives. I mean, it's a it's a tough question. I would say first and foremost everyone is going through it right now. Yeah, there's there's there's very very very few projects who who are defying the market. Second caveat is that the vibe is really really important, but making decisions to like financialize the the NFTs and to increase the value is we feel a losing game. You know, they say that the knock on NFTs is that the only utility is more NFTs. We want to figure out things that go far beyond that. And so I would say to a certain extent we don't like the goal we're out doing a ton different like we we don't feel that obviously we had a poor art reveal. We feel that we've we've gotten back to that with with like the really awesome art, but ultimately like we're just going to keep doing what we're doing. We're going to keep watching the market. We're going to keep looking at trends trying to anticipate the trends trying to start new ones trying to find our own lane continuing to galvanize people and ultimately like playing the game and what we mean by the game is like appealing to you know our our folks. So I know that's probably not like the most direct answer, but I mean, I think we spend like most of our time thinking about how we can how we can get the vibe and how we can deliver to our holders and make it like an and also community be a part of yep. The office had one thing they're Michael that is really key and it's owning an own lane. Like where I just I'm leaning into like who we are as people and sticking within our zone of genius because I think that who we are as people has almost forming in in the other in community as well like south of ej myself for all horror athletes. We love that kind of like great grind resilience type of of mindset and that's kind of transferred into what it's meant to be a zarian and galvanizing a community around an idea. I think is a lot of galvanizing a community around a theme is really key and then doing really cool experiences, activations, activities and resonating those activities and activations around a central theme that you can understand and organize around I think is the the real key and then we can own a we don't want to do things the same way that other projects have done them. We want to stand out and do something different which is what I think is probably what we're most excited about. Nice. I like that. I'm going to process a burn in my books right now. I went to the website. I'm going to do five of my six and I'm going to keep one to eventually get a physical for the collection. I think that'll be very nice. Yeah. That will be nice. Physical collectible. Yeah. I mean, it's good to see you guys still work really hard and you have like you have an idea and it's going to do really. I mean, you guys like you work longer than 99.9 percent of people in the space. We're going to go over a thread later today of all these celebrities. It's just abandon their projects. They go to zero. Nobody cares. And that could have happened here at some point, but it's now two years and still doing awesome stuff. So I think that's really, really cool. Really cool. Thank you for saying that. I think the the thing that azureans and when I say azureans, I mean like our community and writers, remembers and the team at tally labs and you all and the rest of the people that are still here having common is that we have a ton of perseverance. And we're not going away. Our community is not going away and and we're going to bring azure bala, you know, as best we possibly can to, you know, match that energy that all the people that are like sticking through. I don't even know how to describe it, right? Like I mean, just confusing, stressful bear market. Like who knows what kind of times this are, but but people are still here. And that's really inspiring. And and we definitely get a ton of energy from that and just want to like put it right back into the space. Beautiful. No, you guys have you guys have a company. You have IP a decent amount of IP and people that will let you use their IP like it's all really cool stuff. I appreciate that. I feel like I said this last time, but software and Valley Jones sounds so similar to me. Like if I were the listener, I'd be like, I don't know who's talking right now. But anyway, they're childhood best friends. Oh, that's right. Yeah, they said that last time. Yep. That'll do it. Especially because we can't see them. So it's like really like I know. I actually just I use some custom software to make my voice sound like so. So that's what it is. In real life, it's different. Wow. Okay. Okay. Well, we'll see. Oh, this is my last question. Are there any events happening in the future? Any plans for events? Definitely plans for events, for sure. I think, you know, to April's point, when we talk about being different and finding our lane, you know, we've just in observing the space, like those are the events that stick out. The ones that feel really unique and really organic to that specific community. I mean, if you look what like Azuki's doing in Vegas right now, like it just looks, it looks awesome, right? And so we have a ton of ideas. We have a ton of ways that we would like to bring, you know, AAF, which is, is there cursing a lot on the show or no? Yeah. Is there a Zarian as fuck like bring that to life? And that really like embodied, like you'll see us tweet about it all the time. The community is tweeting about it. It really embodies like what we've gone through and what the Zarian identity is. We have some really fun ways that we want to bring that to life, like with events and bringing people together and stuff like that. So definitely yes, no like firm dates yet, but we have some really fun ideas. We need to, but we definitely need to like get the PFPs out there, show the community that we can be like keep delivering, continue bringing everyone together. So I think we have a little ways to go before before that, but like we're definitely ready. All right. So that's exciting. Michael, do you have anything you want to say and ask me the question? I think I did ask all my questions, but I also did burn five of them. It's super simple. And I mean, I for five of them, I only paid $5.50 in guess. So I appreciate that. And man, I'm on for the ride. I've been for the very beginning and still riding strong. So appreciate you guys coming on. Probably won't be the last time. And best of luck with everything as it moves forward. Michael, what would you, what would you get on your roots? Let's see. There, yeah, I haven't gone. I gotta probably go back to open series. Imagine you live, both of one of them. That would be good. That would be good. Let's see here. Don't get it. So I know they're all men. Let's see. They're all good. They're all great. Looks like they're all the same. Like the blue, like they're the kind of electric blue bottom, right? All the browners. Yeah, they're brown groups. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All origin. They're all going to be a sofa. Gotcha. That in French is the area. How many tears are there? I can look and see myself. It's the three, but all of them are going to be like all of them. We're going to be aesthetic. All of them. We're going to look really good. Most ones we've seen that we talked about from the beginning. The art that we revealed are going to be revealed with the origin roots. Gotcha. Okay. Cool. Yeah, I see the apex. There's six 101 so far. And the origins are most something cool. Maybe that'll be your and I could have got one. I couldn't got one apex, but you know, it would have been your next PSD. Now I might do I have to burn the next one just to see Michael actually sold his ape that we still use as our. I know, yeah, like I'm not the guy who's fine. I see no one's complaining. Like I don't really care, but it's just kind of funny. Yeah. And that ape that I did sell is on the poster that that was made that you guys did that remember that poster that was hand. I forget the gentleman's name that did it. Was it the worst Jenkins? Yes. Yeah. Where's Jake is my that the ape is on there. My former ape bag city. Yeah. I remind you. Yeah. I'm just saying all about it. Well, it's not so big. I want to dip down to like 35 this week. I was like, really? Yeah. I went really low and then came back up a little bit, but I think it's still under. Okay. So then you felt better about your. Yeah, a little. I was a guy. Well, at least I don't want it to go down, but like at least you didn't sell the absolute. I don't have to have the stress of it. Yeah. True. No doubt. Okay. Well, ape, wood, sofa, valley, Jones. Thank you guys so much for joining us on the show. We appreciate you. And yeah, we're going to segue over to our next segment of this and talk about what has been happening in the NFT space this week. So much for having a song. Yeah. Great to catch up. We always appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Happy to be the customer support for Michael, burning his books live on. Thank you guys. Thank you guys. Very cool. Very sweet. Showing. Yeah. It's breaking. Let's break into the news act. Well, you went to Bollywood to talk about Bannerwood or no? I mean, yeah, I mean, Bannerwood, yeah, it was amazing. Honestly, it rekindled my love for like festivals and raves. Like I was just, I was like, man, I need to go to more of these like my sister and I are already figuring out what we want to go to next. But burning man sounds like the one. Oh, my God. Yeah, everybody says it. I know. And August, that's too soon though. Like, I don't know. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I might try next year. August isn't horrible because it's summertime. Yeah. We're thinking, we're thinking of going to imagine. I think it's called. I forget what else. You know, we have a couple that we're like thinking about. But um, for the end of the summer. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's a lot happening in the summer. So that's kind of nice. Right. Right. Yeah. In like September, basically. You know, yeah. Yeah. That's good. I don't have a lot of fun. We talked about itself. Yeah, you don't have to get too many in the tuning details. This is the NFC podcast after all. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's speaking of Richard? Let's switch into NFTs. I made my first kind of big purchase in a while. Really? What did you like? Speaking of Richard, hold on. Yeah, because because Richard made a recommendation. You bought it. Not can be ghost didn't you? I bought 10 knock ameos. What? 10? Yeah. I told you last time I told you if I buy something. Right. I'm going to buy something to try it hopefully. We have my, we have my thought on it. I mean. Okay. Richard. Richard and without even thinking about it called it the the most underrated NFT. I have to what the most underrated project is. He was like knock ameos. It could have just been on the top of his mind like. I don't know. But then we were asking him about that. Then we were asking about their owner and he got this big smirk and he's like, we don't talk about that. We don't talk about that. We don't talk about that. He was getting weird when he was saying something like I guarantee he knows and it's somebody that will all be like sweet. We think that they're going to say though like true it is. Well, on their website, then that says like if you go to their website and she says that they're going to reveal the sound. No, but it says like the next step is coming in. I don't see where I found it. Like the next step is this fall. So something's going to happen. So basically, I bought them in about a quarter each and I feel like. Wow. Even if it's not like the greatest project ever in a long time, whenever I still feel like there will be another bump at some point, there's going to be a rumor that comes out of the owner is it'll bump it or whatever they do. And I figure like, I think you can get the point five relatively easily. And that would be a double up if it does. So like, would you sell it at point five? I would probably sell. Depending on what it felt like, I would probably sell one or two, you know, and like try and ride it up. But with blower, it makes it so easy. You buy 10 in the snap of a finger. You can sell 10 in the snap of a finger. Which isn't like what it was, you know, way back in 2021 when we were on open sea door one at a time, you know, you, if you're like me and you bought 80, read bananas or whatever that project was, it was horrible. And I had to sit there trying to sell them one at a time. And it was like a nightmare. But now you just sell everything, buy everything. So like, yeah, I'm excited. I'm going to, I'm not going to do anything until the fall and see what they're going to try and announce probably. But okay. All right. Well, it keeps going like it's down 10% over the last day because I keep watching it. And it was like point two five and then up to like point two eight and point it. And it keeps holding it point two five. So that's, that's about where I bought them at. I think my average was like point two seven because I did 10 of them. Yeah. Exciting. I'm excited for you. Yeah. You're back to your flipping ways a little bit. Yeah. A little bit. I've been, I think I've been, I've been traumatized. I don't even want to talk. I was going to take it to ballet. I did over an eith for two of those. I'm like, I'm glad you didn't bring that up. So I know. I don't have to be like, yeah, I've hit over an eith for a long time. Yeah. A lot of people did, I guess. Sure. Yeah. But Nakamegas also has 35,000 eith in the volume. And actually, I guess I don't know how much of that they're actually getting their 5% on. But that would be $4 million if they're got other royalties. So I think that's a money too. Whoever they are. Right. Yeah. And like, I don't know. Like, I know there's rumors about it having something to do with you here or something to do with the larval abs guys. I don't know. That probably won't be what it is. But remember, people said that he would make series two if it got to one eith. People said that. So like, yeah. But he also like, he'll just, he just like does things that are shining. He'd stuff and he explained it. I know he does. But he said that he would do series two. What is series two mean? Oh, series two of the night. Oh, I see. Oh, okay. And it got up to like 0.9. And somehow it didn't make it there. That could, that could resurface. Like, why would he make a commitment like that? Like, he could make a piece of art about it if it was trending. But to actually make that kind of commitment. Like, I think he knows who owns, I think he knows who owns it too. Oh, we need to get to the bottom. Okay. Here's what you do. Oh, you realize that you get everybody drunk and then you start asking around. That's the question. That's how you do it. Yeah. And they say, oh, yeah. Oh, is that one person? They're the founder. And you're like, yeah, got them. What, what if it's Garga, the guy who's got no Gordon, who stepped away from word apes? Imagine it was him. But I feel like knocking me goes, give out a while ago. Like, not really. When did it come out? I don't know. So like, it's been a while. Maybe it had been my time lines are always off. So March. It's been three months. It feels like a year. Are you hitting three months? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you said something very interesting. Picked my interest during the first half of this. You're like, you're like, oh, yeah. And then we're going to get into a thread about all the celebrities that rug. And I was like, oh, you want to see it? Yeah. I want to know. I want to see what's up. So on Twitter today, this person named, uh, Ryle NFTs at Ryle R-I-L-E, why hadn't come across with somebody, share it, put out a thread that I thought was, well, I mean, interesting. Um, celebrities that ruined Web 3 forever. This is his opinion, Italy. But are these the worst crypto scammers ever? Um, first one is Gotlana Roads. Dolph Films, Starlana Roads launched her project CryptoSys. She promoted a lot of utility, but never delivered on any of them. She raked in $1.5 million. She promised free money on her Instagram. Her number one goal for this project is to increase the value and make it a lucrative investment for holders that they can sell more than they pay for mint. Like, that's like, the illegal is convinced. That's like textbook, what not to say. Oh, yeah. I promise to make you money. Yeah. That's good. Oh, my God. She left a project because a negative comments made her sad. Jake Paul, uh, he promoted many rug polls and stall at least $2.2 million. The guy said stall. That's his word allegedly, you know, he made whatever it is. His most notorious scams involved, Anamune, Apes in Space, Safe Moon, and Milftoken. And of course, I heard a Milftoken. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we heard that. I'm a big hold on. I'm a big cold. And of course, Dick, Dick's NFT, his own rug, the NFT collection. Oh, okay. That sounds really good. Uh, Logan Paul is brother is most famous for his crypto zoo. We went over that before. There was a thread. When coffee is ill, I made the whole thing. It was marketing as a really fun game that makes you money. The art consisted of edited Adobe images and was all a huge mess. The terrible flat and God had been to go lawsuit. He also promoted a mean coin called dink doing. And then the guy says dot, dot, dot, which went well, dead. Do you know Aiden Ross's? Yeah. Uh, I've never seen this stuff, but I know he's a popular twist shooter. Yeah. Why does he look like Fred guys got to send me a cut of stuff? That's sending amongst the younger generations. Yeah, I need that shit. I'm all right. Yeah. But you have to kind of add that curly. Yeah. Like, like, like, that's the style with it. I don't know. So this guy Aiden Ross promoted Milftoken, I guess, as well. And later shamelessly admitted it was a scam. Uh, there's some kind of video here about it and talking about it. But I'm not going to play the video right now. Akashi six nine partnered up with a project called Trolls and never delivered on promises. He quickly abandoned it and it went to zero. Of course. It just wasn't. And this wasn't enough for him though. I'm reading from the thread here. Later, he went on to make his own NFT collection called gene, G-I-N-E, which you can't even sell right now. And there's a video of him making an apology. Oh, Kim Kardashian promoted a scam coin called a theory of max. It shows her Instagram. Oh, I remember that. She got fined for it. Yep. That's right. Yeah. She got, they went after her. Not this. She says, this is not financial advice, but sharing what my friends just called me about a theory of max. A few minutes ago, a theory of max burned 400 trillion tokens. They're admin while getting back to the entire EMAX community. Ashtag, Disrupt History, Aga Theory of Max. Yep. She got five, a couple of million dollars even cheaper. They promised it in a steam marketplace, VFPA experience, they didn't do anything. Lindsay Loween and promoter project called a nine cartel. And she deleted her promotions, abandoned that project, went to zero. And a lot of people, when they say promoted, like they just have people that come to them. And there'll be groups of people making NFT projects. Hey, can you put your name behind this? We'll give you an X amount of dollars. You need to treat about this. We'll give you this. Right. Exactly. Exactly. That's probably normal business for a lot of people. Oh, money. I'll do it. Right. Right. It's, I mean, and if it's a makeup brand or a new magazine, nobody gets mad. Well, yeah, because it's like, if it's a makeup brand, then, oh, I will actually be able to get the physical makeup like, like, like, actual makeup versus like, okay. And then you can get rugs and, or it could be, yeah, just a complete scam. And I know you, it's hard to scam a physical product, I guess. I mean, I guess you can mislead people with like, oh, this is supposed to do this. Remember that lady that had that pink condiment or whatever? Do you remember that the, Hey, look, I'm having the one here with you. Pink, pink light condiment. Yeah, the pink sauce. What is the pink sauce controversy on TikTok? This lady made this. I don't even know. Yeah. This is a while ago. Oh, condiment or whatever. Yeah. And then she said condiment. I'll say, no, no, I'm so confused. Oh, why? Yeah, back up. Okay, that was like a project product that got scammed. Let's go back to rails. Let's go back to rails. The tweet. Okay. Now, now we're on number eight. There's 11 number eighties. John wall, the NBA player created a bathing ballers. And I do remember that. Just seven days after admitting that he doesn't know what an NFT is. Of course. Right. A wall stole the art. He didn't steal it. I do ever put it together. Stole the art. It says baby boss. They mean boss baby and Fortnite. They decided to charge 0.15 East for it. Floyd Mayweather was one of the worst. He kept putting out projects. I remember I remember I knew a guy from clubhouse who was promoting one of his projects and actually work him with Floyd and doing the promotion for it. And it was like, it was ugly and a scam from the very beginning. And like he the guy who I know was like squeezing every bit of money out of the people. Like they did this weird mechanism to buy it where like you would put the price you want to pay. And then the highest like 8,000 people would get that. It was like he like really tried to milk it and they didn't milk it. So he promoted board, bed, bunny. He had three of his own collections. So one of those must have been at this guy I know and they were it was horrible. He claimed you will never lose in his video. The recognition there. But you did because those NFTs are worthless now. But he made well over $5 million. It hits a good for him. Kevin Hart. I remember this one. I remember Kevin Hart. Like one day he tweets. I don't know. Kevin Hart. So he like he tweeted. I'm really digging this web three stuff. I'm going to really, you know, dive headfirst into it and someone tweeted when's the project coming in like four days later. He put out a project and it was 10,000 pieces. You know, he's got like 10 million followers on Instagram. Maybe he's a lawyer and like all this stuff. And it only sold like a thousand out of the 10,000. Oh, Kubora finally catching on. He must have been late to this. He was late to write. If he wasn't, I would have been everyone started realizing. But like it was embarrassing. Now if you saw a little oozy bird. He launched a collection called Eternal Being. So later abandoned it. Bleeding dollars promotions. Making the NFTs go to zero. I thank you for reading blah blah blah. Ryle. Thank you for the fun. Tweet. Wow. Ryle and NFTs. Yeah. Yeah. That was a good thread. Yeah. Yeah. It was fun to go down memory lane with some of the. Well, we're sorry. Remember this one was free. But what was that? Or was it free? It was free. Josh Hart's. Oh my god. Uh, uh, uh, uh, book cash grabs. Book cash grabs. Yeah. I still have it. I still have this. I need to. I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What else was it? Let me try and think about it. Well, I mean, there's Aussie Osborne, the crypto bats. Yeah. We should make a, um, a list of like our, our like top 20 worst NFTs projects or something. I don't need funny. Speedy the worst NFTs projects. Pixel monitors still like half an ethno. Is it really? Yeah. Leave it or not. People still buying Kevin. I don't think it's about Kevin. I don't know. I think like that, that, that company is around us through. I mean, number 78 million dollars. They better figured something. Right. I don't think it's a deal. But I think like five seven. That's crazy. What's happening? Right. Dude, very interesting. Yeah. Some little DM me. I can't believe you don't know what's happening with Pixel monitors. Yeah. That's like, is that's like what a cool cat is. Does it seem as pixel money? That's a big shame. Wow. Right. Sad. What's deals that you don't want to look at deals? I mean, whatever. I'm numb at this point. It's fine. It's not right. 1.72. It's up a little bit. It's up a little bit because it was about six. It is. It's up a little bit. It's up. Okay. Stop. Maybe if I make a bunch of money on knocking me us all by finally by a doodle. Hey. That's a promise. Yeah. Yeah. That was your first folks. Yeah. It's you make a bunch of money. You should. Yeah. If I make a bunch, if it 10 x is 10, no, no, 5 x is what is it? 5 x is 5 x will bring it to like 1.25. That'd be pretty nice. What is it? Yes. 3 x. If it's 3 x, that would be 0.75 each. I'd have 10 7.5 each. Yeah. I would do a doodle. If it was that 3 x, if I sell them all for 0.75, I'll buy a do. What is it? 2 x. Then that'll have to consider because that's just making money. Okay. Okay. Okay. I don't really give all the profits. Yeah. Sure. 3 x is doodle territory. 3 doodle. That'd be pretty cool. That'd be pretty cool. What else we got going on? The eight queen down elections. Oh, that's right. Two of our former guests are running to the next round. They advanced. It's not going amazing in the next round still far. So the end date is the 28th and 9 pm. We're recording on June 25th in the evening right now. So there's just under three more days to go. And so for the special council, which is a $250,000 year job, which is, you know, that's nice. Yeah. Is Captain Trippi, who I know of him. We follow each other. I've known him the whole time in the space, but I've never really interacted with him is leading with 1.9 million at 37.06% of the vote. There's going to be two people to win the top two. Get the job. Wow, who I haven't known to recently, who I've heard in the different spaces, 1.3 million at 25.5% karma pockets in third place at 1.1 million. And Swicky is in fourth place with 692,000 votes at 13.58%. That's where we are now. And thread guys in sixth place. Greg guys in fifth place. Yeah, with only 2.13% of it. He's not. I thought he's going to do well, but well, yeah, he did really well for the first round of it. I just got what like second. I wonder because now, because basically before you could like, let's say you had 10,000 eight point, I could be like, oh, I'm going to give 5,000 to Swicky. I'm like, yeah, 4,000. So, but now you have to, you can only put all of your eight coin towards one person. So, um, so I guess, yeah, I'm interested to see if people are kind of holding out, waiting a bit till the end or, you know, yeah, I think there's some big players. I think there's some big players that have like a load of it that are going to, they're still yet to vote. Yeah, yeah. And what else is, uh, I don't even think I'm going to vote because I have to, I have it staked, so I have to unstake it, pay money to unstake it. Like, I don't know if I need to, I only have, you know, 2, 2500 dollars or something. I tried to vote for Suki. I swaps some ETH for eight coin. And then it was like, oh, you didn't make the snapshot or whatever you can't vote. I was like, oh, yeah. So, but hey, now I have to make a coin. Right. I'd like to see eight point. You bought it low. So that's fine. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's like two something, right? That's a lot. I don't even know. I swaps 0.07. And got, what's the equivalent did I get? And I got 59 eight. So, yeah, let's see. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's about right. I think it's two something. Eight coin price. Oh, I have some news. Okay. To contribute to this. At a value A, we actually, I guess this is light alpha, because this is what we're publicly launching on Monday. But basically offline trading on flow. So right now you can live trades like I can live swap some of my flow NFTs for other people's flow NFTs. But you can only do it in a live trading lobby. Well, now I mean, starting Monday, you're going to be able to basically send offers to people. So like, you can look through their collection and be like, oh, hey, do you want to trade this for this? And then send them an offer and then have an expire whenever you want. And then they can go in and like sign to accept or, you know, decide they don't want to do it. Oh, wow. And then also, yeah, the chats are also going to be permanent. So it's kind of almost like we have a bit of like a friend. You can like kind of cheer your friends list and like have messages just, you know, with people that are actually going to stay on the site versus before they would your chat history would go as to needs you exited a lobby. So no, that's cool. I'm excited stuff. I love that. I love like all that stuff you guys are doing with flow is really going to pay all of a sudden, because that's really cool infrastructure. Yeah, there's going to be another time for, there's going to be another time for top shot and NFL all day. Like that stuff will have it's maybe maybe not. But I think, you know, but I think flow, I think flow is there's a future with flow, I think, you know, I don't know about the individual projects. I mean, obviously I have a big bag and top shot. So I'm hoping, but I've also, I've been holding top shot moments for like almost three years now. So, you know, I, I, uh, I'm realistic with it too. Yeah, you know, I know, I know. It's like a 10 year 20 year thing. All right, when I'm really 10 years, hopefully, hopefully, it doesn't sing again. Yeah, there's actually a second election going on for the 8th coin as well. Oh, that's right. The group stewards, yeah. Yeah. And, uh, the guy who's running away with it all city. I'm actually friends with him. I've known him since the beginning on clubhouse as well. Oh, okay. Yeah. He's, he's dropped, he dropped the project a while back and I helped him with that a little bit. Like when we were doing the stuff with NFT catchers sending out the emails. So, yeah, he, but he's running away with these got 1.8 million votes. And second in line is Tiger is fine. Oh, I know. A million. Yeah, I said, I didn't know her until recently, but I've seen her coming up on the, yeah. Yeah. The timeline. Yeah, she's cool. Yeah. So, so how many of the, uh, is it just one of them wins or two of those as well? Oh, that's $100,000 a year job. You're getting $9,000 and $8.00 coin a month. All it. I know. Really. Like, solid as hell. It's nice. Yeah, definitely whoever wins these, like, this is going to be their full-time job. I would imagine. Like, I would imagine whatever they had. Oh, no, looking for $9,000, $14 million a year, you know, like, let's go. I know they do well. I get that. Yeah. That's who I was before for sure. That's who I was before for sure. Yeah. Yeah. She's a long time friend of mine in the space. Definitely, um, I would vote for her if I could. I guess I, I could have as I would have swapped my eth earlier, but oh, so I probably can't even vote if I wanted to because I wasn't part of the snapshot, even though I have the eight, but it's staked. It's not in my wallet. Oh, yeah, probably not because you have to have the eight in your wallet or whatever. I can't even. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not too worried about it. Not too worried about it. What else? Uh, the Izuki party in Vegas look kind of fun. Oh, I've been seeing popping up. Yeah. Apparently they run it out all of Haka song, which is a really popular club in Vegas on a Friday night like that. Do you know how much money that takes to run out of popular night club in Vegas? And it was open bar for the people. So yeah, they really went all in. It's pretty epic. Yeah. Those aren't cheap drinks in Vegas. Yeah. They went all out like for their holders, which is amazing to see. And obviously they're doing really well even in the bear. I think what is the floor? Like 17. Yeah. Yeah. Now you can't actually rank it in the royalties, you know, and putting a bunch towards towards the party. But yeah, I'm excited for everyone who went, you know, it's cool seeing the content, the videos about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they're also they have a new collection coming this week. Um, elementals or something like that. Okay. They announced it here. Uh, I think the pre-sales in a couple of days, I've been able to find a price or too much information on that. I don't know if general publics can have a shot. But I know the, I think all the holders got one at the event. And they can't sell them yet. They won't sell them. sold-bound, right? No, they got. Somebody said that he got sold-bound. They did. They got a sold-bound recognition of the event. Oh, kind of like a Po app in a way. Pretty much. Yeah. But it's so right. And then there's also the other thing that's going to be like the new collection. Interesting. There's going to be a pre-sale that the holders have access to if they want to buy extra. And then I guess general public, but you know how that'll go. It's now. Yeah. So you invite Zagabond on the pod. Yes. Actually, we had he invited him. Like, I'm looking at my messages back in May of 2022. So literally a year ago. And that was at the height of the controversy. I remember you were like, yeah, I invited you. Let's go. I know. So yeah. Uh, we should get Zagabond on this. It's about time. I don't think you'll come on, but also lots about it. Then we'll railroad with a bunch of questions about not your worth. Why did you pretend to be a girl? Oh, wait. No, if you're listening, we won't do that. I mean, I mean, first of all, I can't see you being super confrontational. And I, although, I mean, I can and I can't. Like, I can definitely see you throwing in some jobs here and there. But I can't see you just flat out being like, well, I won't be a jerk about it. I can make jokes or whatever. Right. Right. Yeah. I try to ask the tough questions, but I try to be very nice about it. Yes. They were the, that was the new stories I had this week. Okay. Well, there we go. Yeah, disappointed about those fuxus shoes. I wanted to buy those sneakers. That's a nasty situation. We started talking about the end of last week. Oh, yeah. We talked about it. Off. Off. Yeah. They're recording. But, um, basically, so fuxus, keep you guys in the loop because you didn't know, um, had announced that they were doing a collaboration with Adidas, which everyone was all excited for them, whatever. Um, and it was supposed to come out soon. Right. I think this was going to come out soon. Anyway. So priest that the priest cell would have been today. I would have claimed, I would have claimed mine today. Right. What have been today? Um, but basically their ex-girlfriend, um, basically tweeted out a bunch of stuff about like them being like abusive and everything and they had like text history proof and everything. So, you know, there was just, so basically from all that, Adidas decided to push back to an, and who knows when or maybe they'll even cancel it. We don't know. But they decided to push back that collab and, uh, fuxus ended up just kind of tweeting out like a sad GPT reply of like, I don't want to really talk about this during this time. Even though everyone's like, if there's some allegations against you that you say are false, then you probably should, you know, defend yourself. But, um, so it's kind of, you'd be screaming from the rooftop, right? Yeah. So it was kind of like telling that they didn't defend themselves and decided to just, you know, leave. But, uh, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens with that. And, yeah, I know you wanted those shoes. I know. I know. Damn. How'd that paint for all that time? Yeah. And then there are obviously started plummeting in price because you go started uh, sloring their stuff. So, yeah. Yeah. That's, uh, drama. Richie wild. Should we run down the, uh, collection rankings? Yeah, let's do. I'm in that. And then we'll cool. So, uh, NFT collection rankings by sales volume over the last seven days. Number one, Ford API club, not super surprised. Number two is uncategorized ordnals against Bitcoin. Uh, yep. So it's just all the ordnals collections, I think, are in there at the $10 million in volume. Um, Azuki's number three, the mutants are number four. God's unchanged on a mutable X is number five. You still play? No, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. To where I live now, I haven't played. It's obviously doing really well. I mean, they have well, 4,000 buyers, uh, three, 3,800 sellers, 70,000 transactions. That's a lot going on. Number six is that demarket on the mythos chain, which I totally forgot to look up what it was, but that was on your last time if you remember. Okay. Yep. Uh, and then another set of, uh, Bitcoin NFTs, the BRC 20s or number seven captains is number eight from the nine gag or whatever they're called mean land. Um, so rare number nine and beans from Azuki is number 10. I bet that new collection. The next time we do this, if it's well, I don't know if it'll come out in time, but that new Azuki collection will be, uh, that'll be very popular. Yeah. That'll be very popular. Well, you said by depends on the price. Oh, I've been one of five chances today with Zagobon. Can I have a wait list? I don't know. It's so nicely about you looking for the last. Seeing of them, I just saw it up. That's cool. We'll see what happens, probably nothing, but Zagobon, can we get some wait list spots? Yeah. Yeah. Mike does have your favorite. So that should count for something. Yeah. Now, I mean, how many times have we said that Azuki's our favorite project? We deserve some more trends. Yeah. Awesome. All right. Well, I guess that's all we got for this week, folks. Uh, thank you for tuning me into this. This is a little bit of a different episode. Um, but yeah, it was cool. We're exciting. And yeah, we'll catch you all in the next one. Peace. Thank you for tuning in to the NFT catcher podcast. We hope you enjoy today's episode and learn something new about the exciting world of NFTs. If you enjoyed today's episode, please take a moment to subscribe to our podcast on Apple Spotify for wherever you listen to your podcast. And if you really love what you're hearing, please leave us a rating and review on your favorite platform. If you want to stay up to date with the latest news and insights from the NFT space, be sure to follow us on all the socials at NFT catcher podcast. You can follow Jennifer at Jennifer underscore studio and Michael at NF ticket. 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