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Inclusion and marketing, hosted by Sonia Thompson, is brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals. Inclusion and marketing digs into important topics like belonging, customer experience, and diversity, and how you can practice inclusive marketing authentically. Because when you leave with inclusivity, you win the attention, the loyalty, and the trust of a broader group of consumers. I think one of my favorite episodes to date is when she shared about cultural appropriation and inappropriate use of a culture not your own. Such an important conversation. You can listen to inclusion and marketing wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to another episode of online marketing made easy. Today I have a very special guest, someone I have known for years and years, but I have never had the privilege of having her on my show. Her name is Danielle Laport, and she's here to talk about how you can use the intelligence of love, your heart to elevate not only just your life, but also your business. This is a different conversation than we've ever had on the podcast, and I think it's an important one. As you're about to hear from Danielle, the heart is one of the greatest and most often neglected forms of intelligence. I find this fascinating because as business owners, there's such a focus on the mind, learning more, reading more, thinking quicker, thinking smarter. Whenever you're faced with a tough decision or a difficult decision, what do you do? You research. You look at the data. You think from your head. And yes, all of that is important. I mean, this is coming from a metrics loving kind of girl, but do you also tap into what your heart is telling you? This is definitely something I've been working on in the last few years as an entrepreneur. I'm definitely not an expert on it, which is why I had to bring on Danielle. So maybe you already do this. Maybe you don't, but I think it's fair to say that we collectively as entrepreneurs don't pay attention to the heart like we do the mind for so long. Listening to your heart as an entrepreneur was frowned upon. Some of you are even rolling your eyes right now. Stay with me here. It sometimes means you're too emotional when you lead from your heart. Well, Danielle is going to break through that outdated mindset. And that's why I wanted to have Danielle on the show today. She's someone who needs little introduction. But if you aren't familiar with her work, she's one of the most critically acclaimed spiritual thought leaders of our time. Heck, Oprah is even a big fan of hers, saying that she's uniquely connecting the world together with the spiritual energy that matters. Her podcast with love Danielle ranks in iTunes top 10 for wellness and her website top 10 for wellness. Do you know how hard that category is? And her website is one of the top 100 websites for women by Forbes, visited by millions each month. I really love this conversation with Danielle because it opened my eyes to a lot of things that aren't often talked about in the business world. Things like creating a heart centered business, how to overcome the feelings of not being enough and new ways to face those challenging moments or challenging days or challenging years, I've had them all and so much more. So I'm going to bring on Danielle, but I got to tell you, for those of you who love Hobie, my husband, as much as I do, he's a really good judge of character. And years and years ago, I went to Canada for a special wedding for my friend, Chayla, and Danielle was there and Hobie and Danielle had just a brief exchange, but he's always told me how much he liked her. And she's just a really, really unique, great person. So if Hobie loves her, I think we all should love her. So without further ado, here's the one and only Danielle Leport. Hey there, Danielle. Welcome to the show. Hello, hello, friend. It's so nice to see you. You too. It's been way too long. We were reminiscing off Cameron audio about the last time we saw each other, which was way too long ago. But I was so looking forward to this because you have always been someone I've admired. I love your work and I'm excited to finally have you on the show. So before we get started, because some of my audience, you'll be new to them. So when people say like, tell me about yourself, like, that's such a big question I know, but what do you usually tell people? It depends like if we're in an elevator or in an event. We're at an event. We're at an event. This is the event line. I talk about the intelligence of love. I am known for the desire map, which turned into a facilitator coaching program, 400 coaches, 30 countries, a day planner system. That was the core question was, how do you want to feel? And I've evolved into a new question, which is, what do you want to embody? And that's become the new thing, which is how to be loving. And I love the business of entrepreneurship on behalf of raising consciousness. Yeah. That's interesting. On behalf of raising consciousness, I've never heard someone say it like that. And it makes perfect sense, especially because I know your work. So I'm like, yes, yes, yes. Here's what I want to start. You start off by sharing a bit about what it means to live a heart centered life. Because my listeners, I want to start there because I identify that with a lot of your work. And what does that mean to you? It's the difference between being reactive and unconscious and saying yourself after meeting like, I can't believe I said that. And being more responsive, which is like, you have the mental clarity, really the heart clarity to just take a pause, see what part of you is triggered. See what part of you is actually accessing some higher wisdom. So a heart centered life is a responsive life, a reflective life. So there's practices that come behind being able to be more responsive rather than ridiculous reactive and paying the price for it. Absolutely. Now tell me again, that new question that you've been asking, say that again. What do I want to embody? Okay, give me more of that. What does that mean? Where did that come from? Okay. Let's talk about embodiment first, embodiment is consistency. Embodiment is really like this expression of integrity. So like, I want to be a particular way. I want to carry a certain kind of energy, what I would call virtue. I really want to take the whole concept of virtue back from dogma and religion. So like, I want to be loving. I want to be compassionate. I want to be resilient in how I text and how I show up on stage. In my business policies and what I eat and my friendships, consistency, embodiment, it's me. I'm bringing that energy down. I'm putting it out and everything. The revelation, like the journey from how do I want to feel to what I want to embody was the moment that kind of vignette story is, I was in a rough patch. All my friends kind of were on a high alert and a friend called me and we hadn't talked for a couple of years and just naturally the conversation went to her first. She was also having a hard time and I just did what friends do, witness, listen, you know, only give advice when asked. And I got off the phone and thought even though I'm in this really dark place myself, I felt on purpose, I felt loving, I felt loved, I felt connected to something higher than myself. And I thought me being in a good mood is not predicated on having a meaningful life or day or interaction. Maybe enlightenment is not about being happy all the time. It's about purposefulness. And then I went deeper with that. So it's like, if I'm not going to orient my life to how I want to feel all day long, it's like it's not about feeling free. It's not about feeling inspiredness. It's just not about feelings anymore. It's about values and it's about virtue. And that's been more challenging, more fulfilling. I sleep better at night. Business is better. That's for sure. Okay. So if it's not about feeling and it's about this virtue, then what do you do with all those feelings and how do you navigate that? Actually, because most people that are listening are running businesses. So I love that you added that at the end, your business is even thriving now. What does that look like? You feel the feelings. You honor the feelings. You don't over identify as a feeling. So like the Buddhist definition of suffering is that all suffering comes from the mind. And the refinement there is that all suffering comes from misidentification. So we identify as the failure. I failed, therefore I am a failure. We identify as the anger that throws us off center. I am an angry person in that moment. None of that is true. That's like you being at the whim. I mean, we get the, I mean, so often this is like putting a derogatory sense. Like you're at the whim of your emotions. Yeah. We don't want to be that. We want to be in equanimity. We want to actually be heart centered. So it's like somebody in my membership just asked me, how do I be loving when I don't want to be loving? And that's actually the most brilliant genius question. And I have the genius answer for you. Oh, give it to me. Which is you choose. You choose your free will and your spiritual maturity and your elegance and your grown upness and like you're like, you're true loving nature and you change your tone and you say the loving thing and you create the policy that's based on kindness and inclusiveness. You do the right thing. Everybody knows how to do the right thing. It's just we get pulled off with hyper productivity and you know, all the things of the culture. Yeah. And I think, I think people know that the intelligence of love, first of all, is an intelligence. We know that it's the game changer. We know that it's the game changer. We're just not used to playing the game that way. It's like we're so eclipsed with policy and being conservative and separating business from heart. Yes. It's so true. I keep coming back to that word consistency that you brought up. I wasn't expecting that word. When you were talking about virtue, you were saying consistency. Talk to me a little bit more about that word and how that's fitting in with being heart centered. I just wrote about this recently. You have to love yourself enough to be consistent. We often think about consistency in terms of our professional performance. It's like you're going to show up in integrity. You're going to be on time. We're all getting up at five in the morning to do our thing. We know like the power of that kind of ritual. I want to take it even deeper, which is about being your true self. By true self, you're identifying as the healer, not the wound. You're identifying as the solution, not the problem. You're identifying as like you're beyond the question of whether you're worthy or unworthy of your dreams. You're just identifying as like you are radiant and you bring that to everything. The challenge is we don't bring it to everything. We fall off track all day long, but that's the idea. That's the idea. Even in my own, I have all my business practices and how we do reviews and how we shop in meetings and all of that. I found this other layer to consistency for me in my own spiritual practice has been like I get the value of showing up every day for stillness and contemplation. I know what it does for me, but I've started to consider like what does it do for the unseen forces that I'm calling on? It's like we're calling on our hearts. We're calling on God. We're calling on our guides. However people look at it, we want to tap into the universal mind. I'm in a relationship with that creative energy. I show up every day, whether it's like 6am or 7am, to do my daily visioning or journal or for me it's meditating. I'm telling the divine that I'm in the dance, that the divine can rely on me. We're driven. We get, I want to know what's around the corner. I want the crystal ball. I want to get the right answer. We want the right answer. We want to do the loving thing. But for me I started to notice that and I can see this in our entrepreneurial culture. It's kind of this taking. I'm going to sit so you can give me the answer. Oh, yeah. Super great. Turn to a source higher than an Instagram influencer for your guidance. That's a really good idea. Like, you know, like go to the top. But you have something to offer. You have something to offer. You're in a relationship. You're in a relationship with the divine. That's such an interesting way because I know a lot of people listening, they're not looking at their businesses this way. And I think it's so incredibly valuable. It's like the next level for sure. One of the questions I know that will come up for those that are listening is what are some simple ways that they can tap more into this, like into their more of their heart mind, into more of that consistency that you're talking about, that virtue, especially when they're faced with lots of challenges. Lots of my students are struggling. They're struggling to figure this out. They're struggling to make it work. They feel as though they're not good enough. So it was interesting that you said like, it's not no longer a question if I'm good enough or not. You just are. They're not even there though. And sometimes I struggle with that. So how do you even get there? First, there's a concept and then there's the practices. So the concept is you have to consider that receptivity is the power move. So the outmoded power move is the striving and the seeking and the pushing and it's like, you want something and you're going to strategize. There's a problem. You're going to think your way through it. Yes. Yes, to strategy. Yes, to quarterly objectives. Yes, you want to execute on all of that. But we've got it backwards. First, you have to get aligned with what your higher intelligence, your soul wants to tell you to do. You create far fewer messes if you are silent and still first. First. So I call it the stillness sandwich. So at the beginning of the day or the beginning of the relationship before you sign the contract, before you do your objectives, you sit down and you get still. This really hits when I talk to women, corporate women about this. I say, so imagine everybody listening, you just imagine this. You're lying on a beach. It's safe. It's warm. It's beautiful. You earned the vacation, whatever. What's your job on the beach? Nothing. Just want you to consider the energy of basking. The basking is like so incongruent with like strategy, right? Yes. Your only quote job is to receive. Your higher guidance, the intelligence of your heart is waiting for you to get into basking mode so that it can tell you what the next right move is. It can tell you whether to sign or not. It can tell you what the next product should be and the sequencing, right? So you got to be still and then go. So what I do is I have my stillness in the morning. Do my tap in. I will actually say a prayer. I mean, my language is, I'll say source or infinity or God. I will say, Holy Spirit, please fill my mind with the thoughts of God. I want the higher thoughts. And then I'm done for the day. I just assume that because I've tapped in, I've had that stillness in the morning that when I pick up the phone, not that I ever get on the phone anymore, when I press send, I'm doing the right thing. I'm doing something that's like wise based on loving kindness. So I don't question myself throughout the day because I tapped in in the morning. And then the other part of the stillness sandwich, the receptivity power move is you got to tune in at the end of the day. This is why most of us have done yoga, the last position and yoga, Shavasna. You just lie there called corpse pose. People think it's about, you know, you get to chill now, you get to chill. It's actually about integrating the lessons, the learning, the benefit of all your movement in the yoga class. And I think because we're so hyper focused on producing, we actually don't reflect on what we learned, where we misstep during the day. So I have a practice where I do this when my head hits the pillow because usually I'm on my phone and doing all the things I shouldn't do right before bed and messing with my circuit and rhythm. So true. I'm guilty. I go in reverse. I look at my day from like the last hour, you know, nine o'clock, eight o'clock, seven p.m. Because it's easier for the mind to remember in that kind of sequencing. And I look at where I was in integrity and where I wasn't. And it's a little bit stingy sometimes like, oh, I could have done so much better in that conversation. Then I celebrate and I give thanks. The day is done. So I feel that when I do that, I'm not going to have to repeat the lesson that I got on Monday on Tuesday because I integrated it and move on. I get something fresh on Tuesday. That's powerful. You're before your head hits that pillow, you're asking yourself, where was I in integrity today and out of integrity? I think for someone to be able to do that in a healthy way that actually enriches their lives, they have to be really kind when they point out the areas they weren't in integrity. That's something I struggle with. I'm really hard on myself. And then I can't stop thinking about, oh, why did I do that? 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#564: How To Choose Higher Quality Thoughts With Spiritual Thought Leader Danielle LaPorte