It's Always Deer Season | The Count Down Till Deer Season
Welcome back to the raised hunting podcast and what you guys just caught me doing there was scrolling through because we've been doing some shout outs
And I want to do a shout out to this gentleman because Sean would
Road in and gave us a really good topic
So if you guys will do the same thing will do the same we'll give big shout outs once in a while
We might even give something away. Just but also got Brian Daxon and Devin Yoder. Oh, yeah
Devin and Yoder. Yeah, and Brian
Brian, yeah, everyone is asking what are we doing at this time of year to get ready for deer season?
I mean, we're talking can't see my own watch May 18th 19
It's a day 18th. All right, and so like start thinking dear. I
Guess oh, yeah, we got five months. I don't understand why it feels so much later in the year
It doesn't feel like it's only May 18 still no it feels like June or July
Well turkey season ended but that was really five days ago
That was really a really really really unfortunate thing to just do well. We just counted out how many months until deer season
What's wrong with that? It would have been better in my head not knowing oh
way way way way I think
What?
New York maybe still turkey season. I think they just opened yeah was Wisconsin
I think it's still rolling that a lot of work still gonna be open so is Wyoming
Idaho's still open to when is this close 31st?
Wow, I wonder what it opened
It's a good question. I don't care about that part. It's open on there
Just in case all right, but but we're supposed to we're not talking about turkeys anymore
We've been talking about turkeys for weeks now now. We're gonna talk about some deer stuff
which
Cup brings up the first subject is
Seeing them suckers in velvet is fun
But like they're way early but Nick and I saw a buck this morning as well
I was I mean standing right off the side of the road. He's looking at it's already had brow tons and I don't know
Eight or ten inches of his main beams something like that one the other day with G2's. Yeah, I know that's wild
I would like to go back and look at photos and see if that's normal growth or it seems fast to me
I think it's well
It's got to be fast considering me and dad over the course of the last two weeks of season the amount of like turkey season
The amount of deer we had coming up to us
The majority were bucks and they all were already growing everything
Some of them had like the start of a split for their I guard and like their main beam
Not a single one was even close to going all the way up having the I guard G2 and past the G2 something like this buck had
Yet he has G2 to grow still but he had already started growing it and his main beam was going
Mr. Liss wasn't even do his I guard yet. Yeah, I would say that one
Is early especially because it wasn't like he was he grew
Obviously ahead of all the others, but I don't think he's like a huge deer
I don't think that has any correlation to size though when they're growing now
I don't I'm just saying that he'll be he'll be one of those some of them life fourth. He's fully grown
Yep, so all right, but what are some of the things that we're doing to get ready?
Because we are doing some stuff
besides
Taking inventory on these deer as they're starting to grow to see if there's someone that you can pick out who it is
Mr. Liss Warren's talking about we know this deer and we know him because he's missing an eye and he has kind of a weird
Configuration he's got that scar and he's got a scar and so you can tell that it's him. I mean no doubt even though he's only got
Five inches five or six inches of antlers, you know, we know it's him
I think so with these topics that we've gotten the three guys that have sent in the majority of these
They're they're asking what we're doing preseason what we're doing now. They've asked about food plots and stuff
They've asked about so I think we'll just break it into two
I would be smart would be what you're doing on a lot of your your private or lease stuff and then
On basically on land that you can do stuff with and then on land that you can't do things with so yeah
And and so Sean actually asked a few questions that I think we will put into that
Number one though. I want to make sure because I see this with the kids at camp
I see this with other hunters is number one that what everyone should be doing right now shooting your bow
Mm-hmm. I can't think of one more to shoot your ball the time but imperative now
Yeah, and you want to be the guy that shoots ten arrows a day
Not 150 arrows the day before you know
If you shoot ten arrows a day kind of keeps you in them flow of things and keeps you going
And even with my shoulder I've took my bow home and I've been shooting a little bit
I don't shoot a lot of arrows. I can't especially with anybody that lifts. Yes, it's way that works out
It's more important for you to be shooting frequently
Because your things are going to change right but like for you two. It's pretty like Warren
It doesn't seem like it affects him as much correct me if I'm wrong like he'll lift and he might have some big differences
Every once in a while
Seems like with you like a lot of times me a lot if you like change your workout
You're gonna have to go change your sight too. Oh, I can't
No, I can't shoot my bow and and lift that's it does change that much for you. It doesn't
Yeah, I mean it's changes as far as
If I go a day where I'm fresh
Yeah, I'll be dead on and then if I lift in the morning or whatever
Usually I'm so fatigued that I can't hit the broadside. Well, I'm not I'm not talking about the fatigue because like you can
Plan your lifts around that kind of thing like okay
I'm gonna shoot before I go lift but I'm talking like your muscle growth or
If when you're not lifting when you shrink some or I think it's a combination
I think I think growth fatigue
I think muscle memory because I can tell you you probably experienced it too
You don't realize it until you go to draw your bow and you can't I
mean like not even close from
Lift from a day of lifting is all it is the next day you walk out and I mean that
I don't understand out guys that say they lift super hard and
Shoot and lift every day. I'm like if you're if you're really lifting and shooting every day you ain't lifting that hard
Yeah, because or you're not shooting that when you really lift hard
Like you can't go out and shoot your bow normal
Unless like what I said like if they were swapping like if they're doing going to shoot and then they go lift afterwards
But if you're sore from the day, yeah, no
I'm saying I'm saying lifting before you shoot if you lift ever even honestly though
If I if I lift really hard the next day two three days. Yeah, yeah like that's what a lot during hunting season
One we're hunting but two even even when we get close to elk season
I don't like to lift in the last few weeks of August because I needed to make sure I can hit something
Yeah, and I need to make sure that my bow is consistent right now
It's not that big of a deal if I shoot one day and I shoot the next and there's a three four inch difference or whatever
I don't adjust anything because I know it's probably just me and then I and I shoot again when I'm fresh
Like I keep notes, you know
I was like I was fresh today and I'll be good
But when I get close to season I don't want to have a
Three or four inch variance and I don't know how to I don't know how to avoid that other than I guess maybe I could just lift
Light yeah, and and see I've had to start doing that
So I used to lift to the extent of what you're doing now what you're doing now, and I can't do that anymore
And still be able to number one. I can't lift it like I used to just I'm just not going to be able to do that anymore
So what I can do though, and I have to because used to I could put away
I would like completely quit lifting during the entire hunting season three months September October November when we lived in
Montana and here it's more of a
Mid-September through December because we could be back in a tree even in December
But my point is is that I've gotten to where I have to do a little something
But I just don't live very heavy or do very like no no like short reps and a lot of weight
It's a lot of lot of reps a little bit of weight just to kind of keep the muscles warmed up and things like that
So I think people need to really pay attention because I know that it took me a little bit to figure out
You guys were fortunate enough that I could tell you yeah, hey, this is what's going to happen and when you lift weights
It's going to affect how you shoot your bow
Not that you won't be able to do it
But I was going back and forth with a sight back and forth because one day I was here one day
I was here, you know and and finally I realized wait a minute
Maybe this has something to do with what I'm doing outside of
Especially if you do shoulders or something like that. Yep, it's gonna huge effect. Correct point being practice
Shoot your bow. Yeah, if you're gonna
Time to run anything if you're gonna try a thumb release or you're gonna try a back tension or something
You if you're gonna try and either of those I would start right now because you're gonna need a few months to get
You have a lot of like check around you have a lot of your 3d shoots
You're gonna be opening if not already
That are gonna be outdoor and stuff and that's great times to go
Whether it's just a course or whether it's a shoot go shoot on the weekends or whenever like we have one that we go to quite a bit
Just to kind of keep you get a hike around shoot stuff and be
Something a little more fun than just a target. So all right
But Sean's specific question was about deer about deer season and deer in general
And I want to answer one of his questions
So he asked a question about like trail cameras. What do we do with our trail cameras this time of year?
I can tell you right now
I'm not running as many cameras as I will as I will be in say August
You know one thing is the other one that he asked was are we already using our sense and
I believe that you could I did it last year as early as I can't say I did it in May
I did not do that but June 1 you know
I had scrapes that I started opening and I started having deer come into those scrapes now
They're not going crazy. They're not Paul, but they're sniffing it. They're licking it
They're making sure that they knew what was going on. So it was a pain in touch
Yeah, absolutely, especially if you've got one of those scrapes that you know is going to be that community scrape where they're going to start coming back to
You could I know during July you had them out. Oh for sure. I know I did in June
I wrote it down
More you pay attention and more you listen like even if you just pay to listen to stuff
We're talking about because the amount we talk about sense and scrapes and
Rubs and everything that now when I was turkey hunting
You like or even when I was going shed hunting and things like that
seeing the amount of scrapes and everything that are like you can see that they just
Scrape the living crap out of it today
and it's May and it just shows goes to show right there that you're paying attention you find some of these certain ones
Those are really good ones to find because if they're using it right then it's probably a they're using
Yeah, that's a great spot to that would be a natural one that you know if they're keeping it open
Throughout the offseason like when they're not actually fired up, you know that they're gonna be keeping that open probably year round
however last year was a big year for me to
Determine that
Going this early meaning having a camera sitting on a scrape having in May June
Maybe even early July it also let me know that some deer were around but not deer that I was gonna get to hunt
Yeah, I had several deer that were in I was like holy cow look at the this deer
I don't recognize or a couple of them. I did know I'm like, oh, maybe he's moved over
You know soon as as soon as he became hard horn. It was gone time
I had two of them last year that I can think of the deer we called
Which one what
Cluster cluster cluster would be one and then the other one is the nomad that guy killed
Yeah, he's kind of doing it the whole time. Yeah, but I'm just saying he was there and gone there and gone there and gone
And I mean I was seeing him two miles away from my camera. Yeah, you know, which was nuts
I never did the same thing
Yeah
But I've never seen a day definitely pay attention to things like that because you'll and you'll have ones that move away and have ones that are moving in
Like I I can think of only two or three that I was paying attention to last year that moved away
Completely and then I knew that I had a couple others that showed up right at the end of summer that those were it can work to your benefit
some some places you might have a farm that's
You're the can't the deer you're getting there. They have no reason to leave at all
But they stay or they are just there for that time of year and they're all gonna leave so you got a couple cameras out
Yeah, honestly, I keep three or four out all year right. Yeah, I've had cameras out. I
Mean I haven't so have you changed locations. You had yours out for turkey season. Yeah, I had mine for turkeys
I changed locations and then what about for deer now?
I just put another one up so I have four out right now
And I just put up another one that's back in an area that I know that they're in and I but I also put a food block out
That's that's what I was gonna get at is what can you do to kind of put these deer in front of your camera?
I would definitely say that this time of year more than anything is we're on food
We're or or that catching them going to and from the food
Whatever that may be whether that's a bean field whether that's
something and and I'm big on the
Greeniac blocks
Yeah, I like those because they're handy you can drop them anywhere and it puts them right there where you get a good
Video or good photo of who it is you can see them. Well, you know for instance for like the guys that
I keep thinking of Devin because he's asked me a couple times
On places that you don't can't drive to or whatever else
Like on the where I put that food block was just one of those little brick ones
Well, it's a buck break isn't that what it's called. I think so
I don't I think yeah, I think that's what's called
But I like to do the reason I use those one is because super easy for me to walk all the way in there
Drop it right there it lasts a little while and it doesn't make a huge hole or nothing
But they I have the acorn and the apple ones specifically
Because I think right now
You're this next month or so you have a really good time to have a reason for them to come to a food block
One, it's good for their growth of their antlers
It's very healthy for them
Especially with the different types of food and if you are using some kind of block that has mineral in it
That's gonna allow them to grow better, right?
But as well as like our corn hasn't grown yet our beans haven't grown yet are I mean
They're sprouted and there's some that are starting to but if you give them something that's really really easy
It's kind of like winter when it's winter time and you throw out a ton of bales
You're gonna have every deer in the country there because if there's enough snow they don't have food anywhere else
Well, they have food here
But I like the acorn in the apple one or so different and this so different smelling that
Like right now I'll get ton I'll go back and check that camera to probably be full off of one little block
Mineral is really a big one this time here if it's legal where you you're doing it and you can do it
I would be I would have it out because it's really gonna help it's gonna benefit the bucks
Right now they're in full growth mode. It's gonna benefit your dough
It's gonna benefit the doughs that are shouldn't ready to have babies
Yep, and so they're gonna seek out those those nutrients that they need and so a lot of the mineral blocks provide that
I particularly have protein in them some of them do protein plus a lot of minerals do
There's one called protein plus yep, and the king makes one
The one that I really like though is the lick magic comes in a bucket and it's a
Because it has it tastes it does it smells like it's good
No, you seem like you want to but I've not done it Warren has put some interesting things in his mouth
That's came out way worse and anticipated
What I'm referring to to tell everybody Warren one time we are filming some stuff and said if you guys if you guys dare me
We even pay him we didn't even offer money for the the top of yeah, he's doing some stupid
Video he's like if you use it on the show. I'll put I'll eat this deer tour acting ninja
I'm like you were funny to pick up a turnt smell he's like I'll even taste it if you guys will use it
Yeah, no everybody was trying to get me to do it and you did it on your own no where they not dad
They were all everyone was telling me to do it. I remember there's a lot of discussion
You're the only one dumb enough to actually put a deer turn your mouth. I
Theory was it tastes like grass. I told him no I
Figured a dry one wouldn't have any flavor
So I did that big of a deal yes, and yes, he actually went through like no that and I
Was that I wouldn't need a fresh one but a dry one I would I would do that because I didn't think there'd be any flavor in yes
He did throw it in his there. He did not eat it. That's not real quick all I can tell you
Fastest dry heaves I've ever seen
The moment that he put it
I
Was actually kind of impressed you followed through on it. I know we need
So don't that now don't go around at this time you're tasting turds. It's not gonna help you
Why did we get on that the dry ones the dry ones don't taste any better right?
How do you know if they taste any ones might be better because they may be more close to grass forms
Oh, I don't know that's nasty. That is so I don't even know why we started looking for one with corn in it tastes like corn
That's gross
So what we were talking about I was we were talking about the lick magic which is
The bucket that antler king makes that you just dump it on that said it was really good and I said
Taste because it may sound like he was looking at now. It's not really good the antler aid has
protein in it I believe
a la rade I just wonder like
Is mineral more integral for their antler growth or protein we need to get a biologist on here to tell us a little
Bit more. I mean I don't I don't know the answer to that
But from what I have read I don't believe like for a for you to go put on muscle mass like protein overload
Not necessarily over my protein could play a big role in that you know what I mean in the muscles repair
Yeah, but I don't think it's a body well maybe for their body
But I think as far as like a healthy antler growth
I don't know how much I would imagine if their bodies in better shape with their antlers grow better
I don't know Warren from what I read I don't have the answer to that
Anything that you can supplement out there that that is helpful
I think is going to help the deer because obviously if they come to it then they're not finding that not finding that naturally
I'm just I'm surprised like way hasn't tried to get in the game
We'd be crushing with a other game whatever. Yeah next the next thing. I don't know who used to have that logo of the jacked up
Dear, I used this yoked remember that has on the side of the trailer at the Iowa deer classic
Yeah, it was actually a pretty good logo. Yeah, but the deer did you ever seen that one huge?
Oh, this deer is roided out, you know like vein through the the shoulder and everything and like it's actually
But they did a really really good job like whoever they paid to design it like it was really good. That was cool
Anyway, so food food would be number one as far
But now the other part of that because I have more than four cameras out right now and matter
I'm probably gonna take this weekend now the turkey season's over I can put food out and so I'll probably put some blocks out and
when I'm talking blocks grainy act blocks and
Set them on what a couple farms though. We have cattle so I got it. I can't do that
So when I have situations like that then I rely on what I believe is the food source of that time of year
And I'll put it on a trail as they come by
And I will say that you don't get as many photos in that particular situation
However, sometimes you get the best quality photos
You find here that if you start finding the right deer too, they're probably gonna be pretty habitual
Absolutely, you might not get as many pictures, but you're gonna get the right ones
Yeah, as opposed to what I hate doing that's why put them one of the things I do actually really like about the senses
I'm kind of narrowing down what I'm getting pictures of because a lot of times
I might get tons and tons and tons of videos or pictures of freaking doze and fawns
Which is great to watch for the first 15 videos and then you get really tired of it, right?
So that's a downfall to food
So just keep that in mind though when you guys are setting your cameras set the settings
According to what you got it set on meaning if I've got something sitting on a food block
I'm gonna get a lot of pictures, so I don't want to take a picture every 10 seconds or 20 seconds
I want to take a picture every two three minutes because that dough is gonna come in with her fawn or
She gonna hang out for a while so you want to limit that number of pictures
I do bursts on all mine where it's three or four photos at a time
Just trying to get one clear picture out of them and then but if I'm on a trail
I'm probably gonna have it on every 10 to 15 maybe 20 seconds tops because I'm not expecting
I'm also putting them on video. I use video for everything almost but like like food
I'm putting on pictures because I don't care because I put a hundred and eighty card in there
You can't put it in that big card cards full no time
So that that's one thing that we definitely are doing as far as cameras go
It's about now. I would say
Probably not even really heavily till mid-June
Then then I want to make sure because I can start to tell who some of these bucks are gonna be by mid-June Warren's theory is July 4th
Is when you can really?
Yeah, we pretty and that that may change according to where you live, you know
But here in Iowa we got pretty good antler growth by July 4th
Yeah, I'll be I'll be so I go to Idaho tomorrow for a week
But when I get back so it'll be like June
I mean it'll be NMA, but June
Whatever that's when I'll probably all my cameras I have right now or probably all gonna go out
But I will give you guys a fair warning for things that I will not repeat this year
If you are gonna run cameras whether it's one or 40 or 60 however many cameras you're running
There is a big difference and there's there's you better pay attention to how like if farmers are in there all the time
Or if nobody's in there because in the situation like dad
Around his house. He's there enough. He can check those cameras check him frequently every three four days
Yeah, heck you could check them every day pretty much
And you're not gonna hurt anything because they're used to hearing the trucks around they're used to hearing us in the yard mowing doing whatever
Okay, but like well, I thought last year stupidly or wow stupid stupid stupidly
Yep, we need to have a cat podcast. Yeah, we do
I thought last year stupidly that if I'm in there frequently either even if I'm in there just once a week
It's not that big of a deal or they'll get used to it at some point because with me and the farmer being out there checking cows and stuff all the time
It wouldn't be a big deal. I learned going into the season. That was the first year I'd done it that frequently
Was the worst season I've had as far as like the deer doing what I know that they're normally doing
So pay attention to that don't like if you have the majority of places you're probably not going to want to go in all the time
So like this year I'll probably end up having 15 to 20 cameras out, but I'll rotate
Part of why I'm out there so much is because I want to be out there like I want something to do I enjoy being outside
He's you know what he's gonna tell you is put a cheater cheater cam
Yeah, then you don't have to worry about it. You put say it was cameras
I enjoy getting to go out let chris doe run me set cameras set stands whatever I enjoy the work
so I like being out there, but
A tip is you can rotate your stuff. So like if I'm gonna have 15 cameras out the ones in this section
I'll go check on this weekend and I won't touch them for another two three weeks
And then if not longer and then the next week if I'm wanting to do what I normally want to do is I want to be out
As much as possible I'll rotate and I'll go to a different section where it's not going to be the same deer kind of thing
if I can
I will try to set cameras to where I can drive right to them and check them never get off and walk
If they like especially field edges, you know things like that where I know the deer are gonna walk them at night or whatever
But I definitely want to understand what am I looking for?
You know this time of year primarily all we're trying to do is an inventory
I'm not trying to see which way are they going? What are they doing?
You know, I'm just looking for who's here who made it who who did I not see who's gonna make a big jump
You know that kind of thing at this time of year. That's all that we're really kind of doing. You know
So if you're gonna try to get the deer used to you
By technically kind of maybe training them or pressuring them to that amount. I don't know how you
the best way to specify that but uh
What how often do you think you need to be in there because I know what how often I think you need to be in there
Well, I think to start without just
Dropping a bomb on them where he's there like every day kind of thing
I think you need to be in try to be starting to go out or be out there in your
Be present loud whatever
Make him know that you're there at least two to three times a week and then after that once they actually start to get used to it
I'm like every day
Like they need to know if if you want them to genuinely get used to you or have an idea that somebody's gonna be in here all the time
They need to know that you're there dang near every day and they can still do their normal things
Not have to run away or whatever because they know that you're just doing your stuff
but in the logic of that or the
ability for most people I
Don't have the time to do that. I don't I don't have the ability to go out and just hang out with my deer every day
Yeah, his is kind of nice because
Your house sits on the center of where you they built the house in the wrong spot. Yeah, technically
Yeah, well, they I'm sure that's most people's standards is it was on in too good of a deer area. You shouldn't build your house there
Well, he obviously wasn't a deer hunter
He because you because you can look at it and see it's on the edge of the
Cedars and everything about it says x marks the house. Yeah, and so I would have put the house up by the shop
Yeah, you know and his is a deer hunting space a perfect example
He's doing something every day and he's outside every day even even just pulling into your driveway
I can literally stand me and mom just the other day were sitting on the porch and we have Kristo and Dan out there
And she's laughing like mom has a loud laugh and there's five ten deer out in the field
They'll look at you and they'll be like, huh? What's up?
Now granted it's the time of year that they don't care as much either
But it'll get to be time of season and they may like walk off into the woods if we're out being a bonoxious in the
Tempere in the yard or something, but they're pretty well used to be like
Not to the point of you can walk up and pet is deer don't get us confused at that
but the point of like they're not gonna go run a mile or
Be out of there for the next four or five days because they got busted
Which is what you run into in places where they'd never see anybody or anything at all
You go in there and you bust some deer
You could be looking at maybe they come back that afternoon or whatever, but they might be gone a couple days
Okay, so there was a I just saw a video on facebook of a dude that
Inagreed himself into a mule deer herd the same guy did it with turkeys
Oh, is that guy that had um, yeah, I think it was the same guy didn't I?
Yeah, I didn't realize I was pretty sure I was the same guy the mule deer thing
Yeah, yeah, he was saying that it took him
every day
like
So they got a large portion of the day
Yeah, and everything around these deer until they finally let them get closer and closer and closer and then they took one of them
Didn't it and he say I don't know like one of the doves finally was like, okay
I think that your trust worthy and came up to him and then the rest of them were like, oh, okay
Could you imagine like during deer season? He just waits for that doe to come and heat and then throw out all my
What do you think she's like he goes out there? Hey, Susie. How you doing today?
Here comes the buck right behind her
Well, what do you think that what that would do to their mentality if that is so he gets them all used to it and then fall rolls around
And he shoots bob the big buck
The no, but they all be like I can't believe we fell for that. No, the dough the dough is either gonna
He got real close with is either going to be extremely appreciative
Yeah, her him saving her right from bad things or
She's gonna hate him like why did you just shoot my boy? But yeah, it depends if she's a hoe or not. Yeah
I don't know how it does these podcasts did I say that I meant dough
That was good
That's funny a dough hoe
She is this dough hoe
all right, so
the other part of I think um
Sean's question was
Not necessarily so that's a little bit about cameras and food and trying to just get a little bit of an inventory
But as far as stands go like this time of year we hanging any stands are you? I mean would you do it right now?
For the trials. Okay
what's that?
That was good. You say you wouldn't understand your own though. I said these doughs are for the trails
I don't know what that means exactly. Okay. Anyway, so let's talk about stand location
Yes, like way off in law. All the yeah because he doesn't touch anything until the week before season
I would say if I was gonna hang stands I'd be doing an al post to
I don't like doing stuff in june. Oh, I hate because it's too flipping hot
I hate doing it then too, but that's the time to do it and then I don't I'll go do I'm
It's a little tough to hang stands
I guess it's not tough to hang stands this time of year
If you have a very good intel from last year or over the winter on where you want to put a stand
And so it's just about to say
But one of the things that we're doing is managing our deer
So a lot of times I don't know whether I got a deer that is going to be of age
On a property until a certain period of time. I got to make sure that there is someone there
Now there's there's some places right now that I could say I could go put a stand in and and be ready
So that is where I've given people on x tips during shed season because shed season you're if you shed hunt
You're walking over everything absolutely everything that you normally hunt
And so me and Warren did it multiple times where we're walking around even on pieces that we hadn't hunted yet that we were just shed hunting
And I have a different color on my pen and like I'll mark what it is
But I'll mark like here is a
Huge scrape or here is like this could be a good trail for a stand or something like that
Um so that I know now because the other thing you got to pay attention to is like I have a really good idea
Even when I'm hunting during deer season
I'll do the same thing because I can either go do that during season and move stuff like when I can
Or I'm banking on next year. Yeah, I could really use a stand over there or something like that
So that now I can go do that. We got to pay attention to don't over cut
Things as far as like your shooting lanes
because
Bank on I mean you depends on what time your season opens but like here
We got like a week or two of pretty thick if not a little bit more actually but of thick
but full footage as opposed to
Late october. Yeah, it can change dramatic if you cut your shooting lanes to what it looks like during the summer
Be ready because you're gonna be looking like a sore thumb stuck up there bare on a telephone pulse
So like you're turning a punch bowl
Yeah that so
Oh, there who is the first person to shit in the punch bowl that made people more in I don't know
You're making this you're gonna have to have the little e next to it
But that's no different than most of them. That's valid
Because that's about that who put the first turn to punch bowl to make that saying
I don't even have a clever comment to come at someone because someone had to do it
Are they just thought of that boy? There's no way they just heard in a punch bowl. Now somebody took a turd and put in a
There's no way in the world. Did they take a third and they put in the punch bowl or did they turn into a funny
I realize how I said that and I would imagine that
This is like a steve stiffler situation where he poops in the in the cooler when he steals the guys jet skis
It's american pie
Yeah, I know stiff he wants to steal these these frat guys jet skis
So he swims under the water ties rope onto their jet skis then sneaks around with his rope ties it to the
His truck and then he's like oh, that's not good enough
So while they're not paying attention he opens up their cooler of beer and takes a dump in it
And then he walks away. They go to get another beer. He grabs a turd
Freaks out and then stiffler takes off of this truck and pulls his jet skis through the woods
I didn't see that one. I don't miss much. So I'd say there's your person that probably discovered pooping a punch bowl
Now I want to go watch full models
That's a good one too. What were some of his anyways, let's get back to our questions
Yeah, sorry guys. We're on one today. I don't know what it is, but
Um, like so like I said probably not mocks grapes or anything like that till mid june. I I mean, there's just you're not gonna hurt
You can start now. You know, but but my point is is you can't tell who it is or what they're doing
You can you you're just getting them ready you're getting
You could fit yourself those if if you
Uh, don't have an area where there's a scrape
But you know that there's deer in the area to start a really big one or even just start it some in hopes that
They're they'll pick up on it
And that way you know that you got one and that they're gonna start that they're used to using it and frequently using it
Yep, and don't expect it like they're not going to go crazy on it, but just one or two bucks start coming and then all of a sudden
Few doughs show up other than buck shows up and then they stop in once in a while
But you end up with a video or a photo of a buck that you might not know that he's there
You know, so and I would say this
Your scrapes are going to be more likely to give you that piece of advice or a piece of
information that you need
As a poet I find they're better than food
I just a lot of my bigger bucks don't want to come to a food block don't want to come to a food
Sometimes they will sometimes they won't
You know, but it doesn't seem like any of them like stay away from a scrape
Yeah, you know at the same time. I I preferred doing the scrapes once they are using them more frequently
Because I don't have to deal with sifting through as many photos because I'll get sure I'll get those
I'll get fawns. I'll get bucks all sorts of things on my scrapes, but the majority of them are the bucks
So what's it?
So I think I can't remember who you said whether Devin was or
Someone asked the question about whether we think food plots are worth it
I think it's both of them actually
I'm gonna tell you as of today they better be because I just finished putting seven acres worth of food plots in yeah, and
Here's the thing about that is I try to put food plots in so that we have food there all year long
So today I'm planning perennials something that will continue to come back
I'm doing that for multiple reasons one so that the deer have a food source number two keep the weeds down number three
I'm trying to um put some nutrition back into the ground so that I can come back and put my annuals in
And not have to spray for weeds and not have to put down anymore
That's going to be the first time like it's your 80 that you have I've ever done that
Yeah, I think that's gonna be really good down there
I hope so because I think that it's gonna keep a lot of the weeds out of there and it'll be a like an actual lush
Food plot not just and then we'll just come right in and put our annual stuff right over top of it
And so what we did today was we planted um
Trophy clover by antler king
um
That's what i'm putting in all those plots right now clover is what's going to put nitrogen back in the ground
I did have to but before I did that I put pot ash on the ground to help um new give some nutrition to the clover itself
Um, so anyhow, so there's different things you'll want to definitely do your ph test and stuff like that
Um, but then what will happen is hopefully if we get the rain and the ground was perfect today
It was I mean it was some moisture still there and everything so I had one field that was really hard
You know that was dry that was the last one. I just did all right though. It should be as we're supposed to be getting rain
Yeah, we're supposed to get rain tonight. So it depends on you you had tick on you. I thought so
um your food plots like
Did the question I think for both of them was
Are they worth it? What are you using? Are they not worth it?
I think that they are very lucrative if you can use them in the right forms in the right
Uh food, I guess because like I think it depends depends on the area. Yeah, some of them like I I
There's some of them. It's pointless. Yeah, I think those quarter acre plots and stuff that we used to do
I don't think there's any point in doing that because I from
Sure, I think it might kind of stop them going by but no deer deliberately coming to that we're like 180 those deer are
They are going to that food. So there's a difference though between trying to get them to stay
There because they have enough food as opposed to knowing that there's food there they can come to because
Like I I just did I didn't really plan it didn't have to do much, but I just put in like quarter acre
Not anticipating them come and do it a ton not anticipating like
really anything of
Consistency with it besides the fact of instead of the deer having to go this way in that area because I know they bed right there
I put it
That right next to their bedding where I can actually hunt it still in hopes that maybe they'll
You know whether they're they're midday or whether they're they're just leaving and stuff that they have a reason to come that way
As opposed to go in a different way because no matter what way they go they can find food
anywhere, but if I can
Coke some to go at least narrow them down a little bit
That's gonna help me a ton because even in that spot that's that's one of the ones I've told you that I
It's the hardest one for me to hunt because the wind is so difficult to get proper where it's actually blowing consistently
Whether we have 15 or 20 mile an hour winds or not
So now if I can at least bank on where the deer are gonna come from as opposed to them coming from everywhere
That's gonna help me and so I don't bank on like that quarter acre plot. I do not bank on it pulling deer
Anything I'm simply putting it there for the deer that I know are already existing in that spot
Maybe give them a reason to come over. I would say that the two plots that we have that
Draw deer to feed
It would be the one of the 80 that you just talked about and then the one we call the north plot
At the house, you know and that's I disagree with you. I think that whole entire section
Yeah, but but that that
Plot they're coming to meaning you can sit on there and know they're gonna enter from the
This corner or that corner or whatever but you've also given them the food now that can hold them
Yes year-round with alfalfa and everything. That's what it's five acres six acres. There's not enough there
There's a ton of they all go to the neighbors in the because it's corn. Yeah in the
I don't have the right food for dead winter. Yeah. Yeah, no, he has enough there where he
That's bigger than the 80 food plot those plots. We used to have those southern farms. Yep pointless
Well, there they were pointless one. They never really came in very well number two
Um, they were right on the edge of a cornfield slash beanfield, whatever he was planning there
So there was already a major food source there for that guy that's out there that doesn't maybe he's hunting hardwoods or something like that
Man putting something fresh green in there and it may only be a quarter acre again like easton was saying
they're not coming to that food plot to
um spend
two hours there, but would they swing over there and
Grab a bite deep before they head on to somewhere else. Why not try and find a spot though that you could make it three quarters of an acre
Well, that'd be great. I'm just saying when you can't like right now. I don't I wouldn't even have a spot on that piece
That's the I mean the first one that I've gotten in least
For work basically, but I don't have any
Anyway to like that quarter acre right there is the biggest section. I'm gonna get
I just I just don't know that there's no food there to be able to get them to do anything
I think that I think they may plus I think they might if they're gonna actually come through I think they're gonna ruin it
I mean they're gonna
So what I put in was what the heck was it? There's a new one that they came out with the no-till
Honey hole no
Grade eight
No, southern greens. It's not the ones that you use. It's a mixture. I can't remember exactly what it's called
What I use though was it's from it's from antler king as well, but it's a no-till
Like you can till it in if you want or if you're able to otherwise you can just hand spread it
And it's kind of it's the most simple kind of have but it's a blend so they have clover trophy clover
I have some brassicas in it. No
um fall winter spring food pop blend
Lights out
Redate no
The gray date I have the bag in my truck. I should grab it, but um
So like for this one I knew that I could basically
Sorry slam dog it might be it go back up
Maybe it is true. No, I think it's a slam dunk one. I don't know I have to check but anyways
Uh, where was I at? I don't know. I mean I think what we I think we should do save
Well, I did getting too deep into um podcast and to a whole podcast on food plots
Well, I agree. I'm just talking about what yeah, we're just talking about like whether it's beneficial and my answer would be yes
And dependent on your situation. It's gonna be more beneficial
Other times than not. I mean I still have to disagree with warren though
Because because like what no till plot may that one yep that so that's a newer one, but that that is
Uh a great place from I can't tell anything in there. I don't have anywhere that's big enough for me
Like again, I was not banking on holding deer, but the reason I disagree with what you're saying on that is
We know year round that those deer have massive betting corridor there and
All the time and for whatever reason they like to bed in it all year round, but there's no food within
I don't know a multiple hundred yards like they they come to it to live in it
But then they go any direction they go they're gonna find food, but they have to go a hot minute to find it
And so when they want to spend that much time
Clearly that they want to spend a lot of time there for whatever reason that they feel safe there and everything
If you can give them more reason to stand there to stay there because I can't hunt any of the food
I can't hunt any of the the food choices they are going to so it's catching them to or from is all it is
Now if I can give them a reason at least hang out longer until they go out at night or whatever to the big food plot or not food
In the stage I 100% think that that would make a difference now you might be completely right
I might go in there and one it might not come up two it might not
Do anything but the issue with like what you were saying
I don't I really don't think that they're gonna ruin it because I don't think it's gonna be all that great
For the point of that there's clover in it and then there's brassicas as well
And so I think that they would maybe they might destroy the clover and stuff in there
But I really think that if they as long as some of the brassicas and stuff are left in there
That's gonna be great come season
For that reason because they get better
They start hitting brassicas a heck of a lot more once it starts getting cold
That'll be a good one just to check and see so we'll keep it you'll have to go in there
You got a camera on that one or no?
Yeah, I I did that and then I also put a food block in a camera right there
for now
Well, my problem is is that once I put my food plots in then I want to go watch them
I want to go see them grow. They're the one that paints the wall and waits for it to dry
Yeah, I mean it's like I already called she asked me if you want to go over and watch my plot tonight
I'm gonna call dad when I just know he's probably watching his he is
As bad as I am he's like mine's already started to germinate because he got his stuff in before all this rain
Yeah, freaking be sitting there at lawn chairs dad's gonna have a pepsi and Oreos
Oh, oh, I think oh nope is just a bug. Yeah. Oh, there's one
No, it's all good. Uh did we answer everyone's questions? I mean, I think that's a real general
Like what they were asking as far as what we're doing. That's about what we're doing right now
And then we're gonna get into a lot more
You get a biologist like what we're just asking for the mineral stuff
But also we're gonna have one of our good buddies
Robbie with antler king at some point he's gonna come
Do a food ball like we'll go into some of this stuff because you know
People they're asking about food plots and when it comes to clover
There I don't think there's anybody out there that knows as much about his
Forte is clover. Yeah, I mean not that he doesn't know about everything else as well
But man, I've seen that guy grow clover plot like I've never seen before just for people just to get in just give somebody a reference
Because if those guys are asking I would imagine that they're probably in a position where they might be able to plant something
What it just give us two two things that you would suggest if you got if you're limited
But you can plant a few things two things you could plant right now. That'll be beneficial
Um clover and alfalfa
Yeah, those are actually two that I was thinking in my head and and
Antler king makes it it was new been now for a year or two
Booner buffet and you put that stuff in and it comes back year after year and I would tell you that that one's both
Isn't it it is and I'm two years in on it and we're hating that yeah and it looks freaking fantastic this year
It's like a foot and a half tall already at the house. It's over my knee
Yeah, if you guys are like anything like me and you are interested in food plots
But you don't have a great you have permission or you don't have the ability to do anything with the land
Um
Or if you can get a landowner a lot of times something like that like what I did my landowner doesn't care because I don't have to kill
Nothing up. I don't have to take anything out anything like that. That's a bad one. Yeah. Nice shot. Oh, yeah
I'm actually really impressed that one
This podcast was a Bruce Lee show
Easton just whacked a cloth moth in flight in one
Swat
And now i'm gonna keep it attacked my now i'm gonna continue my point too because I didn't forget it
So doesn't he get you with chopsticks? He did no
That was weird
So take it if you have the ability of it and say we'll let you we just shut up for two for my head
Oh my gosh
See now as you can
Uh-huh. No, you won't know who that one is. That was grasshopper
Good karate kid. No before the karate kid even there was a karate show on David karate played
They do
And he said as quickly as you can snatch this pebble from my hand
Oh, just like that. Yeah, something like that sounded like I think i'm probably really really close
Why are you yet? You're just feeling him. Oh, I'm enjoying this. Okay. You have any other impersonations
I do anyway, what else you got?
I
Can't do them on air
Okay for anybody that my point seven minutes ago that I started
Did you know?
What are you doing?
Did you just say that guy? What you're doing? You can't do it in the store. That's the 7-11 impression
Did you know they race camels in Saudi Arabia Warren
They do
Why we did
This is gonna be one of the randomest podcasts
What happens if your camels got double humps? That's not what i was gonna say. That's cheating
Twice as fast
Least there's a place to ride then all right finish your point. I think we're about ready to wrap this up
Oh
If you have the ability to put something small in and it's not very easy for you to get to your food plots often
Think of something like clover alfalfa perennials and we're talking about perennials that come back
On their own year after year you may have to do like a little sprain or something like that of weeds and stuff
But if it comes up very well, you won't have to so
Small places or even big food plots and stuff that you don't want to have to go into every year
Perennials it's a great option. Oh, they can be super
And clover's just like across the board works everywhere. Yeah
All right, he's getting ready to go on another tangent. So i'm gonna close this thing. Look at how pictures. Yeah, which is bad
That's really bad
I have to say though. You made a comment and he didn't pick up on it about you know
If you just need a place to put something small in
And I was waiting for him. Oh, I didn't even think of it that way either
Man, I've had all sorts of things come out wrong today. That came out wrong in itself
Look at these jockeys. Okay, we have to get off this podcast
You look at that and you tell me why that camel's running fast
It looks like one of those teenage the the power ranger teenage mutin ninjas
No, the power ranger
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