Clints Reptiles & New FWC Body Cam Footage | Reptiles With Podcast S04EP35 (REPTILE PODCAST)

What if we lived in a world where we can have these conversations? What if we lived in a world where we were allowed to be like yeah? I don't agree with this but look at this the things that they're doing on this side Which kind of made a little bit of sense? What if we live in that world? Maybe there'd be less fucking war less fucking problems What if FWC had the same fucking opinion about the record? Oh, you're right. Wait, hold up. What if the rep talk FWC had the same fucking opinion on the rep talk comedian where they were like yeah, all this function is happening But there's positivity there. That's positivity there. That's positivity there. Let's work together That's the shit that we fucking want it so we get on this fucking podcast and we talk about these things openly don't fucking complain in the comments Because you're like FWC and then FWC this is the shit that you want from them and we can't fucking do it It's because we're Spanish So disgusting welcome back to the rep tells with podcast how are you guys doing everybody fucking hates me dog? Cuz they're fucking dumbies why it's not like you've ever said anything weird or against the norm no absolutely Never ever It's probably new people and they don't know how I am and where I come from and what I do honestly Well, there's definitely a couple people that are returning that I'm like I think they're getting fed up with Chuck, bro Yeah, like what's up with the all-bro like honestly do some research and then understand some things And then you'll see I don't know where any of us come from oh Listen we're gonna get to the whole comment section from the last part by the way my camera is on be careful Listen I actually think that we need to make it a routine where every podcast we read like the comments from the last podcast Okay, so if only if they're good But the last time they were good Leave a comment always make them good. So plint one of the comments that we get plint plits reptiles One of the comments that we were getting a couple of them were like oh if we were gonna react to plint's videos So he did alive where he went in depth in his opinion I think he I sent him a message. He had such a like nuanced approach to it He did a very good job detailing the situation. I knew he was gonna be Yeah, just talking about what happened with FWC those FWC officers and Chris coffee But if I'm being honest with you We kind of all said the same shit Aggressive yeah and loud by the way I didn't see I didn't get to see I'm in the process of moving and shit So yeah, I was I had said earlier off camera that I was like oh the difference been like Clint's video Like anything we've done is that we're from Florida. We grew up here We know the laws we know what is and what doesn't You know what went down because you lived it But I like Clint's video because he explains it to the rest of America where he's like alright guys This is the law in Florida. This is the history of the laws of Florida. This is why this happened This is how it could have happened. This is why legally it can happen all this stuff. Yeah, you know My big focus point was like to be respectful. It's like you guys aren't respectful then it just makes it harder You're making you're making them your enemy. Yeah, you're not respect if you're not respect Something that he did say that I didn't know is that the technique also fucking trigger warning the technique for euthanizing like you do the if you do use the bolt gun you're supposed to do something that's called pithy Yeah, which is you're supposed to scramble the brain And that's something that wasn't done. That's well and we've talked about this it's like it's specifically for on-site euthanasia they use the bolt gun and Only for like really really larger animals where a single bolt to the head isn't really kind of Guaranteed that same that same tool is used for like pigs and cattle and big shit Yeah, so the reason why they didn't scramble like they were with other animals is because the head is this big in comparison to our cows Yeah, so one hit to the head the holes about that fucking big So that's why they didn't end up doing the entire thing now. I'm not making an excuse I'm saying if they go to court over this that's gonna be their excuse and boom they get away But they he doesn't have a case with how they killed the animals. He has a case with they killed the wrong Yeah, yeah, but they everybody I mean the animal rights groups could be like hey, this is People are trying to push the other way. Yeah, yeah, but but the thing is that you are sorry On social media. Oh you're sorry Florida on social media is making it seem like they're pushing for everything But they know they cannot they know what was legal was illegal that I like another thing that I like from his video is how much he was like saying like and He wasn't that not that he was siding with the officers But he did mention where he's like oh the the labeling system Right because you kill the animal you have to take a photo of the of the of what the animal was right So the guy had Chris coffee he had you know some that just said Burmese pie I thought some that said reticulated pythons, but also some of them were just the morphs You know so if they were going by the labels and mind you in the video that Donnie just released He did you know they did a million times say the boa isn't here. Don't fucking do it Yeah, but you know I would have taken the bitch out. Yeah, honestly Human human error from yeah What he was trying to say is that just by the name stuff They could have got it confused, but in reality because that animal was around all the retics and berms if you're It's the boa morph if they're just on autopilot. Yeah, and they're just doing their job on autopilot It's like they could have made that mistake. Yeah, which was my point I was like I don't think it was a misidentification issue I think it was like cot get they got caught in the moment. Yeah one after the other one thing I didn't like from Donnie's video and a lot of people saying it's like oh it just they sound like they wanted to do What on purpose and it's like bro. You cannot put your own Emotions into somebody else's head. You don't know what went down You have to take the data. Yeah that you have in front of you and take it as it is before anybody fucking gets fucking crazy Nobody's siding with FWC. We're just putting that stuff out there. Yeah wants Clinically from a yeah, yeah, you have to be logical about it with you have to be realistic. Yeah Well, another point that he made is the point you argue that Which I was surprised like huh? He did commend coffee for being able to get that many like a hundred retics with the 90 day That's a that's a snake a day basically, you know more So like commendable that he only had about 30 left for real. But he is also advocating like he was like Oh, these FWC officers should be able to identify these species. Why I agree with that 100% It ain't gonna happen and that's not how it was fire on that no That ain't gonna happen anything how it works and so Donnie and nerd released Video also the day that we're reporting this. Yeah, did you see it? Yeah? So Honestly, like no new information. No, that was just more of the same shit It's kind of more camera first that we didn't have but it is the same story. Yeah, nothing. Yeah, you know what though? I Don't think that they meant to do this but something does happen in the video one thing happens in the video which gives empathy for the Officers, yeah, yeah, there's one specific thing that stuck out to me I don't have the exact words that the officer said but when Either Chris or Bill was blaming the officers for what they are doing in like the FWC broader sense The officers like puts a point to be like like if he was there like his job What he wants to do is be an off I was an awesome observation an officer for conservation and he and he was like Oh, you guys do this like no, no, I'm an officer for conservation He didn't want to say I don't want to do this the job that I'm doing right now, but he like Put it in his work. It's like yeah, like yeah, he's not up for this Yeah, he kind of that vibe. He didn't sign up for it and again I'm not amending these fucking officers. They fucked up. Yeah, but there's another thing that I posted on my story and I caught myself Fucking up. I said that they had an accident, but that wasn't an accident was a mistake Mm-hmm. Right. It's not something that you do is it just happened It's like you fucked up you made a mistake and they should be commended for that You know like something should happen about that Yeah, but at this like you can't say oh they did it on purpose in the whole fucking video They're like yo this fucking sucks. Yeah, and then Donnie's like oh, they're talking like they know the cameras recording We're gonna watch no you fucking hot shit. Of course. They're gonna talk like of course They want you to know yo, I didn't want this from before the snakes were killed before the ball was killed They were bitching about not wanting to kill him Yeah, like you have to like they're they're human too, you know, but no these people you were talking everybody else Just try to make them all of them motherfuckers. I'm gonna fuck both organizations are shit There's nothing better than the smell of coffee in the morning, okay, there's also nothing better than the smell of reptiles in the morning psych Reptiles with coffee. That's the smell you want the strongest coffee. All right. We have it for you Head on over the description or go to coldbloodedcaffeine.com and use the code reptiles with to get your reptiles with coffee today Bro, he had the chance to get grandfathered in he just didn't apply for it You know what like that's his fucking fault. That's nobody else's. That's his fucking fault They didn't have to give him an attention for anything. That's his fucking fault It's gonna sell them time Which by the way on the video he says I couldn't sell them give them for free motherfucker If you really care about their life give them for free, but no it cost you money Because we're all greedy you wanted that something that Clint did say I mean, it's a lot easier to like move around an animal the size of a ball python But when you're talking about an animal that's 20 feet long like that's a logistically more difficult But he knows the people but that questions Like whether or not we should have some of these animals if we're not prepared for The videos when you walk around like of course all the reptile motherfuckers are gonna come at me for this But they're in shit fucking enclosures. Yeah with the Yeah for shit fucking substrate big ass nakes little enclosures. They can't stretch out in there Oh, but that's not abused right. Yeah, that's not abused. It is they come on, bro Like it's tough, but dude The fact that I mean I understand Why it's be this situation is being used as fuel. It's because it's a you know it is it is it is bad fucking bad and there's also something that's coming up that You know we benefit that this is the fuel that they happen. Yeah, but but I ain't gonna benefit shit, but I Honestly like it feels fucking redundant speaking about this Like if you guys if the people that are listening want us to keep talking about this fine But it's like man I literally I was watching the video today both Clint's and Donnie's videos and I'm like fuck man Just like let's see what happens from this. You know like is this all where we're we're using this and putting our fingers crossed Like if the bowl was the martyr for our community. No, we'll get it in man But that that's what I'm saying like this is the only thing that we're just like oh fuck They just had a they just had a meeting to about the white Hilarious hilarious hilarious because everybody is like arguing the same thing. Oh, it's gonna fuck up the Business side of it Yeah Sarks video. Yeah, okay. Okay, so they're like they're like oh Business was gonna be hell. Us officers are not gonna be able to know the species cuz now they're bringing that story Oh, they're not gonna know what species is what they're how they're gonna know this. They're not gonna know fish They're just trying to throw shit out. Yeah, but they had get it. I fucking get it But at the same time That's not the main argument and why the list was made the reason why the list was made does not ever come up anymore And it's like that's how you guys are fucking up Mmm cuz every time they go to court Invasive you're saying we're wrong thing. Yes, you are needs to figure out a problem for invasive species. Yeah None of them have haven't said what can we do to help the situation as long as we get to That's the thing that's the thing that stuff that has it's not it's not about what can we do is what are you doing? Because what can we do bad everything and you know why it's because of this mentality? They don't think it's something that they have to like justify I don't have to I don't have to figure out a problem for conservation because it doesn't matter I have a right to my business to my property to keeping animals. No, you don't you know, you know I'm not mistaken. There was a federal Officer on there that straight up said whitelist do not work. Yes. So this whitelist idea Is pretty much fact is sorry is trash Now the thing is is that Regardless of whatever list we get there is risk assessment with the species and we know that the majority of these animals What more than likely do fine in Florida? So it's like what even is going on? It's either they're making it seem that regard like regardless. It's a slow simmer. They made up their mind And that's the part that's fucked. Yeah period. It's fucked. How is it fucked? What else is there? They just they still do the public vote. They still laugh at public comment That's how the law works. It's not this is the thing. What else is there? How do you stop it? What else like it doesn't think that my thing is I agree with you. Yeah, but what else is there? How do you stop people from bringing in animals releasing them into the wild? But there else is there and this is my argument. I was talking to someone earlier this morning about it They're like, oh, it's not gonna pass because it's not gonna work The whitelist is not gonna prevent like invasives from still being in Florida And I'm like, you know what that's not it. It might not you're probably right. But this is the other point It doesn't matter if it works or not. Florida still participates in Spain new to release programs That is and it doesn't matter because it doesn't work the argument the argument is not your how we know What are the numbers? No, that was an argument for me The argument is not how do we get the numbers to go down the numbers? How do we get? Less species to come in because more and more species come in every single year and are found in the wild There are you always like that doesn't spot stop that a whitelist still won't stop that it and like To an extent it doesn't slow down it doesn't slow down for them won't stop it for sure And so I was like look it doesn't matter. Spay and release programs don't work and yet they still do it You know it's because Florida has to do something they have to be sick has to do they have to they have to Even if it doesn't work, they're just like we have to try some rise some because if they don't this industry keeps fucking everything else up There's there's fucking spectacle came in in Florida, bro Like it's not only like the easy pet shit. There's big animals out there. Yeah, I think that I Think there's a broader thing that's going on and I have to dance around a little bit What I'm about to say because I had a conversation with somebody earlier. They're gonna remain anonymous for this podcast but the you know I Hope that what I'm about to say people don't take To a heart especially because I'm getting in like the political realm of things And I'm a person that doesn't like politics. I am not a Republican. I'm also not a Democrat I'm somewhere in two options. I'm somewhere in the middle. There's a thing Somewhere in the middle where you get to be fucking free live your life and Is that I just wanted to fucking respect each other live your life however the fuck you want to live right? but I'm about to say some shit that some people might not like okay. I'm excited It's not me no the comments are gonna be hated a lot of right now all the energy is put USRFL versus FWC officers But it should what they're what they actually want is USRFL versus FWC Now the people that are running FWC the actual chair Is right they were put there by somebody and they're all fucking into like they're really say building over shit that they should have Build over one especially when they're out here supposed to be for conservation, you know and they're just not that that is Corruption if you get into politics you figure out how that but now this is the thing The person that's in charge of Florida right now not gonna name them the person that's in charge of Florida is The person on top of said organization person that put these people in play okay that person Might be running for president. Okay now if you're in Florida and It's really fucking quiet in here you guys are really Is it I'm waiting for the country Clearly not siding with a specific group right now all right so the person that's running Florida right let's say they run for president Probably likely probably not okay. This is the thing If you're a Florida which I would say a lot of Florida reptile keepers lean a certain way Okay, and it's the same way It's the same way as this person that's in charge of Florida if you're in Florida You got to start questioning if your livelihood is Going to affect your politics and vice versa, and then if you're a Florida If you're out of Florida you got to start questioning Do you want what's happening in Florida to happen to you because this person? gets into office These kinds of things will be more change in the reptiles I think this will be more than likely Why because there's all their states doing the same shit and they have already done it actually can you pull up the Virginia thing? I think You're right states the Virginia. What are I? How do your PB? Oh? This is the thing other states are doing it putting that person in power can fast track it all You think he's that focus on this now I think I think but listen I think when you get to be like look at all the good things that I am doing for the ecosystem in Florida That is a strong point to be like which he has which like the thing with it The land developers and other shit that is also fact But all those lands that they usually use are not part of the conservation the private land. Yeah, so it's like it's like bro Like it's fucked up animals fucking die in the process, but we don't own that doesn't matter Yeah, it's fucked up It's it's fucked up. It's fucked up, but we don't actually own it so it's like they're not doing anything against their job They're doing shit on their own time and you can't put that in the in the organization as well if that makes sense Kind of like if you work for this place Whatever you do I thought I hear has nothing to do with you, right? So a lot of them end up extremely contradictory of me if I'm like the head of an organization and I mean I mean I mean What you are sorry and its government that's also that we pay out of yeah, absolutely But that's what you as our kids to they they get paid by the people that they have under them Of course, what are they they all fucking people that like animals in cages and want to have animals in cages, right? So what what what are they gonna side? But then they try to speak on conservation and that they're biologists and others bullshit knowing all the effects of these animals The invasive ones have in the wild and saying oh, it's not as bad as people make it seem Well, this is the point that I'm trying to make is that we got a we got to think a little bit broader Than just these officers than just this organization and we're talking about what's gonna happen in the broad Reptile industry we got a we got to think broad see even more than that most people don't like reptile keeping most people will never Vote in any direction that because of reptiles because of reptiles reptiles reptiles are not gonna Yeah, I'm just saying put extra fucking like a tent if you believe in this industry and think that you want to be in it You want to live in it. This is what you want to do be smart about what you're doing and I Be a single issue voter What the fuck does that even mean? Yeah, you like your reptiles vote only one way if you want to support us head On over to modern reptile shop calm or in the description where you can find our merch and the best part is is that a percent of the proceeds from the merch Gets donated to conservation one more time. That's modern reptile shop calm or head on over the description So okay, so this Virginia thing right it was like plastered that it was like yo Virginia's trying to take away exotic animals, right? And it made it seem like it was like oh all these animals Is it like a ban like a ban a ban on on animals exotic animals right but reading through what they're actually trying to do It's so what it what it's gonna do is it's gonna prohibit private ownership of certain exotic and venomous species of animals That present a risk to public health and safety such as wolf hybrids kangaroos scorpions baboons Alligators venomous snakes and other venomous reptiles and non-native venomous spiders I think it's out of sharks there. Why sharks bats animals that people are scared of oh, yeah That's really what that is so annoying they have scorpions on there. Why baboon. What's a scorpion gonna do? Yes, they kill people but it said what I mean this I mean this like no one's gonna like people keep scorpions and like tanks It's not gonna fuck with anybody. Yeah, but there's a thing this something else that says is all domestically bred or legally imported birds Radites radities. Oh Got you. Okay non-venomous snakes non-venomous reptiles rear-fank snakes amphibians fish ferrets rabbits My stirbles and chilis hedgehog sugar gliders They said pigs they said reptiles, but then they name every single fucking rodent well. No, no They're saying like yeah, I know and guinea pigs which have been breading captivity are excluded from the definition So they're not banning anything fucking crazy. All the regular shit. That's in the pet trade is staying It's just like the shit that it's like questionable no because that's the thing the US ark is it's our right to keep these animals Yeah, any law that prohibiting you from having a right to call in that fear of hungry Yeah, that's exactly how they do it. I'm gonna ban everything then you start reading and it's like wait a fucking minute Well, some people also argue like it's like they take an ink and ink and ink and ink It's easy to ban people keeping like Literally 5 to Like people like it's easy to go ahead and ban kangaroos and like wolf hybrids, you know It's a little bit harder to go ahead like a band scorpions and can kill us and then even harder if you want to go for dogs and cats all the way Yeah, they do a little bit little bit little bit little bit. Yeah It's a US like stop it all right now. It's hard to say you have a right to keep a live animal I understand like you have a right to keep your business You have a right to do these things and if your business is the live animals and you have your right I guess to that I guess that's your right to keep your property Yeah, you own that's what they that's where the grandfathering in yeah You don't have a right to future property. Yeah, it's like for example like Weed was illegal, right? People went to jail for it. It became legal doesn't mean the people that went to jail for it come out Right, so let's say it's the same thing backwards. Yeah, let's say Let's put it backwards where it's legal and then it's illegal Just because you did weed doesn't mean you go to jail because legally you can't do that So you have your animal grandfather in aim. It's not like FWC being nice. I've never smoked a weed shut up That one shut up that is that is not FWC being nice. That's FWC Having to do that. Yeah, but then I mean they tried with the iguana and take a minute the first time around Yeah, they tried they tried to go ahead and take it into the street court was like hey wait a minute Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly and then it changed and then they have to grandfather in even though they put like certain requirements outside enclosure I just think that and We're gonna get into the comments in a second. I just think that we need to be able to have these conversations respectfully and Be a little bit open-minded and be accepting of perspective and don't just take everything at face value you know like me like I Like I'm not against us are because I think that there needs to be something there To protect what it is that I'm doing but also at the same time I can listen to you guys and have this conversation and understand what the fuck you guys are saying and agree with some of it and be like Yeah, some of this is true like why is it sort of thing getting put attention? Why is it certain energy being put in these places people mentality if because we are very involved in the Political legal, you know ethical arguments between the peck trades, so we obviously saw this video and we're like Let's let's look in some more. Let's start reading some more Waiting so people did you're right because and I think it's a lot of the 40 people a lot of the 40 people yeah Something seems fishy. Yeah, something seems wrong because they gave everybody the same amount of time that motherfucker Was given yeah, I didn't know if you go down back on US like Florida You can find the pose where it says the deadline to yep go back You start Florida come on the podcast. You gotta read Like it was everywhere and it's not like they don't have to call them and be like yo the deadlines next week now motherfucker You gotta figure out people don't believe everything you see on the internet. Yeah, you're a grown-ass man Speaking of which you also need to be when you're having like these kinds of discussions you also need to be like super super fucking racist What like super essential? Yeah, what do you look like all the other YouTube comments to guys? Oh, yeah? Should I say that one for last no Whatever order let's get it. I mean for whatever so I'm gonna this okay, so usually when we do the comments. I don't say the person's name Oh, we because Nitin. Oh, no, we're just this first one. I'm gonna snitch Oh, because they fucking deleted it. Oh I put them on black and they fucking deleted it. Okay, I'm pretty sure I found them on Instagram I thought they deleted it. I thought they deleted it, but turns out if you look like you have to filter to all comments Okay, so YouTube never mind never mind never mind Never mind tough till yeah, and Tina's a fucking lie. I'm an idiot. I'm an idiot I thought I deleted cuz I'm like where to go. Oh, yeah, I'm like so Marlin Munoz The last name says it all bro Marlin Munoz Right. Okay, so in the last podcast we were also talking about this situation with FWC One of us was wearing a blue shirt Yes, we're trying Chuck. Okay. Everybody hitting on my so Marlin Munoz Says I have a question is the guy in the blue Spanish? Because if he is that's the problem Give them a little power and they act like the idiot in blue Hello racism Yeah, it's not even accurate. He's not Spanish Not only was this guy racist, but he's also a fucking idiot Marlin Munoz. I think I found you on Instagram. I sent you a message Swallow Gave you into adoption dog. Yes, fuck. Listen. I sent you a message on Instagram I hope you fucking find this response to my message. Don't be a fucking bitch I know you're at these reptiles because people fucking told me you are so let's have this conversation come on the podcast Let's talk about being spanish fire actually So we had to tell him we were all Spanish He looks Hispanic Yeah, I don't know and then I got offended so I'm like hey, we're actually all Hispanic be racist to us too What the fuck? Yeah, all right, so All right, we got another one here Chuck's hatred of the community is getting unbearable. Oh That hurts. Oh, so so listen There's a lot of fucking Chuck hatred here, so I'm gonna read another one real quick Let me scroll scroll through here this dude chunky sucks Kill your show We're changing his name from Chuckie to chunky Then there's a Chuck I gotta tell you home. He mainly killing a pet sometime is emotional someone No, he's Spanish I'm sorry, okay Chuckie or Chuck I got to tell you who you mainly killing a pet sometime is Emotionally attached to and killing a feeder while ethically should be the same on paper are entirely different Emotionally you need to work on some of your empathy. That is a stupid. You know what though? Emotionally yes, it is different. I don't mind like if it's if it comes down to it people don't care about killing I think the cow that they ate for the hamburger, but we don't care about killing fight up You know their pet dog people care about that But it's just an emotional difference. Yeah, yeah difference. It doesn't it doesn't change the animals experience It doesn't that's where I'm at with it is like it actually makes it worse because you don't emotionally Yeah, it makes that that's worse So he's telling me to be in but like I need to work in my empathy when it is like you're obviously lacking it Yeah, I think that in a sense What they said is still true. Maybe you need to work on your empathy for people, but you're being very empathetic towards the animal. Yeah both animals for the animals. Yeah, yeah, just because like My point on that podcast was mostly like yo Yeah, they euthanize these snakes and everybody's bitching about the way they were euthanized and why they were euthanized and all these things And it's like yo, y'all motherfuckers kill shit left and right like why why is that there's this much of a difference? Oh, these are feeders. This is not it's like the rat is way fucking smarter I think in the fucking snake I think that I mean since this is a long form podcasts or long form Sometimes people are doing listening to this when they're in the car when they're on autopilot when they're in work You know and maybe they only pick up like clips of it like put a lot of attention to certain things that we say And I think that the broader message that we are saying is that yo this situation is fucked up What happened is fucked up? But also maybe listen to a little bit of these things that we also have to say because we're trying to be nuanced We're trying to be honest. We're trying to be transparent which a lot of people are not a lot of people are just trying to get a reaction For you for their message. Yeah, and we do not want to do that. We're trying to say hey This is what we all think three different opinions. We're coming to you We're being vulnerable and some people just aren't about that so that's one of the worst things I'd ever heard was there was a regular who had come in and We didn't have any live Rodents the size that they needed right we was like the end of our time and we're gonna get restocked and they're like Let's say it's a small rap. They're like oh I need a small rat a large small rap And I'm like oh we don't have any live what you do frozen and he's like well, that's not fun And I'm like phone phone for who you're not eating it the snake is eating it But like the snakes are having fun Yeah, the snakes like getting fucked up by the rat if it's biting him and scratching at him and yeah And on top of that the rats definitely not having fun. Yeah, so who's having fun in the situation? Obviously him it's you because you're creepy. Yeah, I think that's one of the main reasons I can't support like I'm not for FWC or USR because they're like USR specifically because if they see like such a bigger organization with different sides But USR is very like this is what's happening. This is how we react and this is how we think and everybody goes Yeah, I think honestly like I like your perspective on it because you're literally like oh why doesn't us arc respond to anything about invasive Yeah, they avoid it one time. I asked it on on a live and they're like we're not talking about that I'm like what the fuck it's the reason you exist you're a too many invasives the law was like Hey, we need to shut this down and then you guys existed. Yep, if the problem is solved and there's no USR Yeah, I just want to be able to have these kind of open conversations Oh, it's a promise of there's no USR so they'll never solve the problem Just collect like 30 seconds later. All right another comment Sweating I was another one was the other one. I forgot it. No, I got no you're right too No, no, that was the same comment. Oh, yeah I must say you completely discredit your argument when you agreed with FWC was cops and not involved in actual conservation Taking the money from them would not take money from conservation efforts as they are separate companies and they are funding their own Projects all the FWC is doing is giving them permission basically honestly a lot of your arguments fighting for the FWC Which despite you saying you're not doing you do many times completely died with that fact We're literally not defending FWC. We're literally trying to give fucking perspective Why the fuck are people so simple minded and can't I'm sorry that fucking gets to me dude It's just like you're like everybody wants to argue about like a thing They're like well you said this and then you said this yeah, that's fucking nuanced We're allowed to have fucking opinions. Yeah, and it's like I don't agree with that WCS as a whole But there's certain points that it's like okay wait This is how this works for example the the part that they were saying like yo They don't do actual conservation with no they please the conservation efforts that organizations have but they also Actually have fun things that go into that and a lot of times they go out to what is it called like almost like replicons and shit like that How did tables and they bring indigos things to show in speaking of indigos things with the OCIC we actually just had our last or the Release program for two years ago's babies because we keep the babies for about two years grow them up make sure that they're healthy and nice release them It's in tandem with the center for a zoo because that's who owns the OCIC and FWC because you cannot have any indigos outside They need to be there to make sure that that's the thank you for your service What if we lived in a world what if we lived in a world where we can have these conversations What if we lived in a world where we were allowed to be like yeah? I don't agree with this but look at the things that they're doing on this side Which kind of made a little bit of sense. What if we live in that world? Maybe there'd be less fucking war less fucking problems What if fwc had the same fucking opinion about the record? Wait, hold up. What if the reptile fwc had the same fucking opinion on the reptile comedian where they were like yeah All this fwc is happening, but there's positivity there. That's positivity there. That's positivity there Let's work together. That's the shit that we fucking want it So when we get on this fucking podcast and we talk about these things openly don't fucking complain in the comics because you're like FWC and then fwc. This is the shit that you want from them and we can't fucking do it get the fuck over it It's because we're Spanish No, I was gonna say look this is the reason this is the reason it's because it's never My thought versus Yoshi's stop versus Chuck's side. It's never it's always me versus Yoshi versus kucky Yeah, it's like no, it's not We're not trying to fight these these entities are not fighting each other. It's the ideas. Yeah, it's the thoughts that are You said what you said just I must say this I'm not gonna say names because I you know those are my boys And I don't know if I could share their names. You're gonna know so there's People out speaking and yelling about all this shit just going off Not only that I'm not even talking about the situation that happened just just you or sorry in general throughout the years There's some people that are quiet And not quiet because they're scared just quiet because they know the fucking truth. They know how shit works And they don't give fducio hard time when they come and check shit They're pretty fucking legit and guess what they have They have their grandfather in their chilling they get inspections. They have nice big enclosures They're in conservation programs now that is possible That is so fucking possible But if your mentality is fuck fwc now you have all these shirts and shit You're not looking for a solution. You're looking for a fight. Yeah, where's the solution? Where's us our solution? It's always like oh, well, we tried telling you maybe permits are better What permits doing what like that? That's not a solution. That's just an idea that it's not a total solution But it could be I'll give a US arc their argument. Hey guys say this If you go ahead and start having permits, then you have registrars you have licensing you have appropriate size enclosures So that way these animals cannot become invasive and we know how many are in the state fine and then Sales are gonna go down because not everybody's gonna get it. They're gonna bitch about that Where's the money gonna go for us? It's not about solving the problem That's why I think this shit is dead like we're fucked because of this mentality. Yeah Leave a comment. Let us know what the fuck you think we're gonna respond to it I'm sorry for whoever the fuck I blew up on it didn't mean to attack your feelings But yeah, no, it's fucking frustrating. I'm kind of Over having this fucking conversation. Mm-hmm. If the people want us to keep talking about it We'll keep talking about it. The views are great Oh, no, I'm joking. Uh, but let's fucking move on. Does anybody else have any other thing else that you had sent me? I yeah, we're gonna let's go over that. Um, if you want to pull that up If you're listening to this you're a reptile lover. All right, and what do we all need? We need supplies So we got you covered head on over to imperial reptiles dot com and use the code reptiles with to get a specific discount Special to us and our listeners for your reptile supplies today one more time. That's imperial reptiles dot com use the code reptiles with all right, so We have a list here a list from Does it have the dates? I don't think it has the date, but it is a price list Of animals from many many moons ago from tom crutchfield Nice importer. I want to play a game. I'm gonna guess an animal and you're gonna tell me how much you think it calls Okay, but okay. So first off we have poisonous reptiles Nice hilarious. That's what the list says amazing crutchfield We got killbacks on there. All right, rapt office red pig me rattlesnakes those aren't poisonous red um 150 No 225 Eric you're more than welcome to chime in if you want to unmute your mic dude. Damn damn. All right western diamondback rattlesnake 150 200 Bro when I tell you the price 25 bucks dude. Oh my god I just thought yeah, if it's here, I don't know. Yeah, I thought get bringing them in to florida Yeah, oh fuck for the cotton mouth $10 60 no 20 bucks I'm gonna look for one of the cobra. Okay. How many years ago is this? I don't know. I can't find a five Oh, he might say last year albino monical cobra 300 no 500 If it was a long time ago, I'll say 500 350 Yeah, yeah, yeah, motherfucker Trying to see if there's anything cool just from the poisonous reptile. Let's see spider ball python 10k Western Was that a mall? I went I caught it. I went You're an idiot western, uh, oh no west african green mamba. Oh man 400 a thousand 225 oh my god no rhino viper Right, no, five 300 175 Yeah, all right, uh goboon viper 150 this one varies a little bit. I'm gonna go with the cheapest on the island. All right, uh a juvenile is 85 All right, the last one from the poisonous reptiles death adder 150 No 500 200 175 Jesus Eopio pup. All right now. We're gonna go non-venomous. You're gonna read them all? Oh, he said non No, I'm not I'm not gonna go through the whole list. Wait. It says non-venomous. Oh non-poisonous. Oh, there we go Poisonous snake there. We're gonna just read a couple that we would definitely uh like be like no way all right white lip python 50 10 bucks 150 A little I'm gonna oh wait look burmies python five bucks 100 100 100 it was 100 of 250. All right. Let me look for something. I want to find common shit Uh ball pythons. No, I don't think ball pythons are all this list. I didn't sell on the way. I garbage filled this into those yeah Brazilian rainbow boa 100 no 700 me don't hurt my feelings 185 damn. I'm okay with that. Yeah Cuban boa How much do you think that they end this was on sale too? Like they weren't selling three they need a move 300 250 250 That's crazy green anaconda Five to seven foot green anaconda 100 bucks 10 bucks 325 T. I was just throwing around fucking numbers bro How like where they're from and how easy it is to source animals from that area Your autism is on point Jesus go for snake What the fuck is a gopher snake? Oh a gopher a go for a pit a pit to us. Yeah. Wow dude. I'm dumb I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're a fucking Spanish 100 bucks Yeah, 20 bucks dude. All right. All right. All right So far everything natives within 50 bucks period like with every yeah a bunch of fucking kinks nakes and random colubrids rhino iguana a Three foot rhino iguana. Yeah Correct doesn't breed 30 100 no 500 975 A pair of grand came in blue iguanas 600 no 500 left nut 27,000 $27,500 bro That's just a spain holy crap. It's probably that price right now, bro. That's like ball python numbers. That's Not even crocodiles that I'm a that's sometimes t more monitor I don't know 300 150. Got dang yo eric your is tizzl miss tizzin dude uh crock monitor 1000 I was closer So ban a monitor $5 $100 $500 I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I was like 30 bucks I'm like no way. I literally forgot the number I said That's it just went to shit All right, so i'm gonna do some Turtles Nobody gives up Radiated tortoise eight inch to ten inch average 10k 1000 4500 that was closest There's a list yeah, there's a list here with cr- oh, I found the crocodilians All right, we're gonna do one more turtle before I do that Peruvian mata mata Thousand I don't know right now thousand 100 Yo eric what the fuck is this Is this eric those is turtles all right cubic rock wait let me get a Cuban crock Juvenile crutch field 200 1500 I'm gonna fight this guy. Nile crock nile. I would say zero dude 300 100 3500 dude Damn, oh, fucking crocodilians were expensive. Yeah now they're overbred a lot of them. Oh god zero No From then I'll say 100 1000 150 Nice eric site This is crazy. It just says now this one just says caiman's Caiman crocodilis spec Yeah, 50 yeah 40 This guy Last one that I'll read five to seven foot. No, we'll do the eight to nine foot american crocodile How do you have an eight to nine foot american crocodile? How is that even allowed? I'm gonna cry. How was that like sure tell me how much I'm gonna cry? 2400 24 And you can have them that's crazy, but the smaller ones are cheap Yeah, the smaller ones are five to seven. Oh, yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah, that is cheap So I actually just came from well not just it was yesterday, but I went to a magazine shoot. I took some snakes Who was a photographer? It was a video. Oh It was a like it was four magazines when they did video and photos. I don't I'm not going to I don't really remember their name so many people. I probably know them No, they're like UCF students And they're like young so many people show me the people so many people and from all over So many all right. I'll show it the after but it was it was cool man um It was cool to see non reptile people really excited About uh these the snakes that I took um They were very respectful usually like when I show reptiles to people that don't know they're like They want to like it. They're like, oh my god. Can I touch it? And some of them were like can I hold it? I was like, yeah, dude. That's people that pay dog I'm serious. Yeah. Yeah, they pay for something so they're gonna be very respectful of Right. Yeah, and they they even have like this like big speech of like hey guys. We have a live animal Um, they signed they made them sign liability shit and das Yoshi's there was a small pile. I was like, yeah, I'm like, I have ballplay thoughts bro, you literally just entered my initiation into social media for real so When when I was in when I was in music uh rather I took um snakes to a music video shoot many moons ago and They were just like they filmed it. I was just there sitting in the hot sun. They filmed it sitting They filmed it and it was like so weird and awkward Um, the music video did good, but like it wasn't a great experience for the snakes You're like this thing out your snakes it felt like that at that time, but this one wasn't like that Um, you know, I'm not gonna sit there and be like the snakes enjoyed it But it was fun to see the snakes explore what was going on and be very curious to the cameras Outside of the tub this one bro. That's true be curious to the camera and like the like the ongoing joke through the set was like Oh my god. Like it's posing. It's giving like it's doing the thing The camera loves you buddy Uh, I definitely want to do it more It reminded me of my time in music when I did do music videos like bring out all those shoots and shit like that I would love to bring aloe if she was a little more calm Uh, but it was great. It was great. I don't know when that uh When the magazine comes out, I don't want to like say which magazine it's for because I don't know how secretive about it But it was a good time national geographic You're just like oh, I went to like the school and like And then it came up as a magazine. They said like national geographic or something Uh, my my ball python did we I came up with that? Um, I experienced good and bad So warning on that mostly for the animal like yeah, I was sort of the animals experience sometimes I went way too long with the animals or Went too far with the animals too. It's like I had to be careful with that. I've done bro like Shit for the with the people from the wwe. I did shoots with them. I did shoots with some of the best photographers in florida I did like and sometimes it was like that I was like very like oh shit. This feels good And then the other times I'd be like Holy shit. We've been in the sun way too long and this niggas Like I'm it's like the people that like stand out on beaches and like you guys want to take stickers by snakes We just find for a couple pictures, but like how long are you out there looking for people to take pictures with the snakes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I Comated them instead a couple times what stopped it for me is my snake threw up and I was like I went too far. Yeah, and then I was like, yeah, no, I don't want this and I usually like I wanted that to be my thing I wanted to make money out of that but then I saw seeing people going to clubs with the snakes and I'm like, yeah, no That's shit. I'm like promoting this and then I stopped there was a so originally The idea was in a studio to do it then they're like very last minute They were like oh we might have to switch it to outside for whatever reason And at that point I had hesitation because I was like because I was thinking about that I was like how long is the animal gonna be outside like in the heat like where's it at? But luckily they were able to secure the studio and I was like, all right perfect Yeah outside I do them like usually like a shaded area. Oh, yeah, it's gotta be with I bring a water bottle and a bowl and like I'm ready for that. And I still would do it every now and then but usually Like there's certain people like hit me out still and they're like, yo how much for this? And I'm like I don't do it unless like it's the people I know anymore like I already know the top dude Yeah, I don't got to work with anybody else. It's like yeah I definitely do it again in the capacity that it was because it felt very artsy And like that's like I I resonated with that like I don't think I do it just for like Random like a model that you know what it was for? It was further magazine like they have like what part of the magazine like why did they have I don't want it. I can't give away too much. I can't give away too I'll tell you guys after okay when it comes out. Obviously, I'll post it in nature I feel like what you're about to feel also feels good is the outcome of the art Yeah, a lot of people don't understand but like That's my snake. Yeah, like I have a whole bunch of like photographer friends and like model friends And like both male and female and like some people are like oh like Oh, you're hanging out with all these people like beautiful. I'm like no like they like what these people get done is fucking crazy Yeah, and like once you see the art come out. It's like that. I get it Yeah, and once you understand it is like I fucking get it and just from like a professionalism point of view like I've been on a sets of a lot of production and The efficiency that this team had where like the videographer was like she was on it like In between things while they were trying to figure things out She wasn't waiting there to be told what to do like she went and she grabbed her land She was like all right. What's out are we doing? She knew what she gonna do She knew the lighting was on point the guy was moving around Hey, you need to stand there and everybody was god. It was a great experience It was an experience. I haven't felt like that in a while. I liked it. I like to do more of that I'll say use some people that do like show and they're mostly like that like people here in Orlando There's the community is not that big for that Yeah, but the ones that are there mostly like that very legit Yeah, like fucking legit and a lot of people are leaving that world of like modeling and shit because that's not making money anymore So a lot of people are going into wildlife photography interesting and some of them like I take them out with me sometimes Yeah I just think it's another and it's it's another way For people to find love for these animals and doing things like that It feeds me it feeds me seeing like other people happy and me not always feeling like Damn this the broader sense of the world hates what we do The broader sense of the world hates it hates it and then just being able to reach certain people I sat down last night and I was like thinking about like how many people I met through music that I know now Have like a love for reptile just because like my whole like gimmick was oh, this is the red that's that's this is Yoshi He's tortuga boy So like people are like around the country would call me tortuga boy Like they knew me like that I used to I used to wear masks before it was cool on stage and on the mask I used to write tortuga boy on it You know and I've got messages from people that used to go watch me play and they'll be like Oh, this is the the skink that I just bought my daughter This is the this that of that. Oh, can you help me identify this and like people that like I had somebody Message me that I thought I knew them from reptiles And then like I like reposted one of my old music videos And they were like oh, I remember when I saw you playing Pensacola and I was like that's where I know you from It wasn't from reptiles. It was from that and just like The like exposure to the animals. It was like yeah, you know that they were able to find that I'm not gonna say that it was through me, but it was just like I like how this is just going Yeah, I'm enjoying this experience You know, I just outside of the breathing like it doesn't all have to be the breathing thing Yeah, I feel like this guy's gonna change in a few years No, I won't I won't because I like legitimately love producing animals Like whenever I see baby turtles hatch it means the world When I see little angry blue tongue skinks, I lose my mind I the I I open a tub I I feel like that's what's gonna change. I hope that that I think that is gonna That will change that will change. I'm already a couple steps in the process of the things that I'm doing But like I'll open a tub of baby blue tongues and like not even that I think about it Just comes out of my mouth. I'm like happy birthday Like that's always the thing that I say I was like dude happy birthday. No, it's more from uh, it was an old card. Sorry Esta son las manani It was an old frosty Oh, no, it was like an old fraud. Yeah, no Spanish here guys. We can the rhythm the races are watching Um, it was an old frosty cartoon that every time that he was like born he'd be like happy birthday That's what I got from anyway, so you went hiking. I did go on a hike Um, I do on my weekly hike But uh this last time was really nice because I went to uh, I hiked in this place I had a campsite like right in the center Which is nice, you know when I Initially when I think of like a campsite I think of like I don't know like like camp rock like oh, they've got like picnic tables and bathroom and stuff. Oh my god Anyway, so I guess this place and it's literally just like open space Just open space. That's it and they have like a little place like a little thing where you can like You know put some coals in there and light a fire if you need to eat something and like that's pretty rustic All right, so I'm walking around this area and I get to like this little like it's not a spring per se But it is like a little lazy river that's just going slowly. Yeah a little creek Um, I mean it's a good size a good distance and I'm sitting there on it I see the little plants coming out of the the water lizards running across. Yeah They'll live the water the water's moving. They're like swaying and stuff. The lily pads are moving. That's nice Um, and then all of a sudden I hear a little bit of rustling and I'm like, huh, what is that? And then all of a sudden I see an alligator just coming down. He's like like doing the alligator thing a little bit of his back is showing Just the snout is showing and he's going. I'm like, what's up buddy? That's so cool and I'm sitting there and then happy birthday I'm sitting there and then like he's going because it goes a little little curve around where I can't no longer see the The river earlier would creek go and he's going and then he's like, um, I think I want to go on this bank because The way that it was there's a palm tree the sun was shining through the canopy It was like a really nice spot and alligator thought the same thing so he stops and he's like All right. I'm gonna go in here and he climbs up onto the opposite bank that I'm on and I'm over here sitting at looking at him and like That's cool. He's doing the thing. Yeah, I'm really in Florida right now A literal freaking alligators came up and walked onto the bank So it was really nice. It was really nice and I saw regular stuff black racers and old but like it's It's a time that I take every week to like Be in nature. It's my spiritual time where I'm like this is like The the meditation for me. This is where I'm like I need to get away from noise. My phone doesn't work out there I don't have any service. So it's like nice area. You know, it's it's funny because my Thing like that is through work on Sundays Sundays I wake up early and actual work Yeah, yeah, like Sunday I wake up early like I just I spent the whole day with my animals I'm feeding snakes and then I'll spend a lot of time outside. I'm you know fixing my turtle ponds and Playing with aloe watching the breadels like 48 times is going to the cage. You feel like what does it do now? What does it do now? You know, uh Like when I go when I go out into the yard the redfoots come out so they're always following me around Actually, you were talking about just like a you know the animal like hanging out in the in the water Eric gave me his wood pause Uh erry gave me a bunch of wood so I put some in the pond and right before I left to come to the podcast today I saw a striped mud turtle basking on one of the pieces of wood nice and I was like it's doing the thing I wanted better than that scene. I'm in the wild If if I saw striped mud turtles in the wild, I would lose my shit You'd put them in your pocket real quick, but in the water not like it's on the fucking grass. I've seen that Like Yeah, yeah That was the second I'll get at sundot day too. So it's like, yeah, I don't know. It's just nice. It's like wow They're out here. I get a little away from people completely gonna bask right in front of you. Yeah And then he was like cool with me just being there. It's not like I was like standing still or anything I was like shuffling around, you know And then you do like fuck Yeah, cool little dude. Yeah, did you do anything cool fucking loser? Jesus Check out my comments broke I just may have like 48 fucking youtube accounts. I'm like chunky sucks. I misspell it on purpose that fucking Spanish, dude Now, uh, I was just been moving. Yeah, I'm not gonna talk much about it would have been moving and big things coming Oh, bro. Pause. Pause. Pause. Pause. Pause. Hey, yo, you're seeing He's scheduling his nuts tomorrow. I have three months worth of content. So I'm saying oh shit. It's like Murder time, bro. Yeah. So by the time that you're listening or watching this you're already fucking behind Yeah, I gotta go. I fucking chucky. He's fucking yeah. My son's gonna be popping I gotta have a whole bunch of shit to post. Um, I'm gonna work way for I have to work way harder on social media I'm gonna try and take your advice and try and get sponsorships and shit. Hell yeah, um, but yeah I just been working on that planning that editing a video Um working and funny thing. I do talk to my my animals at work. Yeah Hell yeah, they call them bitches and shit all the time. Yeah Are they bitches or you the bitch? It goes back and forth. You know, like the the rhino iguana like I feed him Graves and then he wants more so he tries to bite my hand. I gotta be like yo bitch Yeah, what the fuck up? You're gonna see that that sponsorship thing is gonna be You can't you have to do it with with people that align with your message Yeah, you know, you don't just do it with better help randomly because you're just like better help not bro. I want um blue to Oh blue to me. That makes sense dude No, it's that's because you're always erect. You know, you could be the the face of Like I really I'm like, you know what chuck would be the perfect sponsor for this flashlight viagra. What that's blue to you Oh, that's Bro when in you shows does them shit bro. It's the funniest ad that's one to add that I watch every time He literally just goes if you want to break your wife's a back Like no other they just make like It's great funny jokes if you don't want her to make fun of you fucking with socks on great I'm like you're amazing. You can do hemorrhoid cream He's always got the vein on his neck. He also has one on his ass. Oh my god And he just goes away And it goes away look So I mean if you're a company that's listening to this and want a sponsor fucking chuck on his instagram or whatever the fuck Get on that. It's time for you to transcend That's the reptiles with podcast You You you Bye.