Slither Files the Samson Pruitt Animal Abuse Story | Reptiles With Podcast S04EP41 (REPTILE PODCAST)
What a fucking great story, Tally.
He put his innocence on the line,
and then in the process, his wife is sick,
and she's having all those funs,
leave her alone, look at me instead.
And then it's like,
Everybody wants to fuck me.
Like, don't do this.
It's a challenge, don't do this.
Don't do this.
It was like, my snakes are dying.
Oh god, please.
I had to use porn.
Yo, but for real though,
his dick game must be on point.
He's fucking fine.
He's so disgusting.
So Chuck made a seat as a banana.
Yeah, if we have to take like a million water breaks in between this,
it's because Chuck bought the most fucking unripe bananas ever.
They were so dry.
But they looked yellow.
They did look yellow.
I'm not gonna lie to you, my throat hurts.
Yeah, I stole one from the store,
and I ate it while I was walking around.
Anyway, in my mouth automatically went dry.
And I was like, I can't be the only dumbass eating this shit.
So I bought the whole thing,
and then I give it to my friends.
And I was like, here, I'm here to share bananas.
I was the first one to notice.
I was like, oh, these aren't ripe, damn.
And you spoke.
I was just trying to fuck up.
I ate the whole thing.
Yeah, that shit fucking hurt it.
And they were small too.
They weren't even average.
Samson's story.
No, wait, we're getting there.
We're getting there.
So welcome back to the Reptiles with Podcast.
There's a lot that's been fucking going on.
We got to talk about you guys going to herping.
We'll get there later.
Before we get into the Samson stuff,
I just came back from a Reptile show.
Okay, Unrepticon.
Tampa.
And the reason why this needs to come first,
is because I always come first.
Wow.
No, all right.
So listen, guys, we're doing the thing for real.
The amount of people that came up to me
to say that they like the podcast.
Nice.
That was awesome.
That's awesome.
So thank you, the people that listened to this.
I didn't think people really listened to this.
I thought those fucking views were fake.
We're just here.
Just because.
So I just want to say thank you.
I'm about to grab a real holy shit.
Are you really?
Yeah, look at my eyes.
No, dude.
Oh my god.
He's fucking with us.
No, I'm serious.
Here's almost come on.
Okay, well, yeah, for a bunch of people did come up to me.
They were like, oh, I like the podcast.
Is anybody else coming and stuff like that?
No.
It was very nice.
And at first, I was caught off guard because I was like,
oh, why is this person talking to me?
Like, did they see an animal on my table that they wanted?
And they were like, no, they like the podcast.
I was like, hell yeah, man.
So yeah.
And then also, it was cool that a lot of the vendors wanted to do the podcast.
It wasn't like a lot of me going out to like talk to people.
Like, hey, do you have like five seconds?
It was like, yo, she let me do the podcast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was cool.
And I always be like, that would be welcome into where the fuck comes on the table.
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Let's get into the bullshit.
Yes.
All right.
Who wants to give like the rough idea of what's going on?
I can go, but I exaggerate.
So I, I would say out of the three of us.
I know the least.
I was asked to join the Facebook group.
I joined it.
I looked at pictures.
I read like the first couple posts because I joined pretty early.
And I was like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
And then it's more and more piled on.
And some employees came out.
The wife's involved.
I was like, I'm done.
Okay.
So it's too much.
I watch every podcast.
All right.
I've read everything.
What happened?
I'm going to preface it.
Tell me.
A legend.
This, this should ain't a legend.
No.
There's diamonds.
So I'm going to, I'm going to try to like give it a little bit of a timeline.
And you stop me when I'm wrong and correct me.
Okay.
So Samson, Pruitt, Slither, Inc. is what it is.
All right.
So apparently he's had some kind of reputation of mistreating animals.
Typical retic reader.
He said it.
I did say it.
Someone had to.
So apparently that's been what's going on.
An employee came forward with a lot of evidence.
So multiple employees.
So it was like multiple employees that came together to a different person.
His name is Rodney.
Rodney has been to his facility once.
He never worked for him.
He went with supposedly with Garrett to the facility.
And Garrett saw for Reach Out Reptile.
Yeah.
And then what he saw, he did not like.
So back when that happened, he tried to talk shit.
And nobody listens.
And Garrett.
Rodney.
No, no.
Rodney tried to talk shit.
And then nobody listened to him.
And Rodney's the one posting in the group all the time.
Yeah.
Rodney's the one that I think made the group.
Okay.
Yeah.
So because employees came to him and some other people and were like,
Hey, we need to put this out there.
Now we have evidence.
And Rodney has his own podcast or something?
He has his own YouTube.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we have a couple of these got together with some other people.
Rodney included, gave them the evidence and Rodney is putting it out there
within a group.
All right.
So are these pictures and videos recent?
Or are they a common?
All around.
All around, all around.
Gotcha.
Okay.
Now a bunch of pictures got leaked, which we cannot show on this.
I don't know if we can do that.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You've gone in the group.
Yeah.
You've gone in the group.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you're going to see pictures, unfortunately, of a bunch of dead
from dead animals, a bunch of animals with infections,
some reptiles, some not.
Yeah, there's cats and freezers, like,
exotic cats.
There's a monitor in like a very bad enclosure.
It's just things that should not be.
Berms and constrictors face open, gashes on the sides.
I mean, like, it's really, really bad.
Yeah.
And now that comes out, everybody's joining this Facebook
group, it's being shared all across the board.
I send it to you guys.
We're keeping tabs of everything.
Everybody's doing these podcasts.
Everybody's getting, you know, doing their thing.
And then Samson releases his rebuttal.
OK, but we don't have to get to that yet.
Yeah.
How are you guys feeling about the situation?
Let's add more to Samson himself before he puts out this shit.
So there's people that have been fucking with him
for a very long time.
Like, fucking with him like, like, like, business wise,
doing business with the man, moving around with the man,
you know, like, people that now are saying, I didn't know,
or like shit like that.
He does have a past with fighting dogs.
And on Cusco's podcast, or like an interview they did,
years back, he admitted to having over 100 breeder dogs.
So if he keeps snakes, particularly snakes in drawers,
you know how he kept the dogs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So pretty fun.
Here we have, from 2014, a drug arrest for Samson Prut.
You can see his face right there, very nice.
So not only do you have all those drugs,
it was mostly marijuana.
They had plants for it, over 300 snakes, including pythons,
and all this bullshit.
So he has a history of being a piece of shit.
It is known.
This is 2014.
The dogs was not before that.
I think it was after that.
And now there's third bullshit that goes around.
So that includes before this shit happens,
like before his little shit he wrote,
he also was having younger girls work for him
and promising them all this bullshit.
So that includes his wife, Cass.
Pinkered little bitch with no eyebrows.
She draws them on, so in no time she'll be eating shit.
Yeah, I've seen it's funny, because you saw this whole thing.
No, I know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So listen, if you don't leave that man,
you're going to be eating elephant shit in no fucking time, please.
So I saw that was his wife.
And I was like, oh my gosh, I've seen this girl on Instagram.
Never followed, because I don't care.
But I was like, huh?
Interesting.
Shit comes around.
And the species itself, like you said,
mostly people that deal with those snakes,
like keep them in fucked up environments.
They have hundreds of the longest snake
in the entire fucking world,
living in little fucking drawers.
Or even like vision cages, that's not enough.
I keep my long snakes in my drawers.
You're stupid, you're stupid.
But you know what I mean?
Like, that's not enough for a big snake
to be breeding it in such mass.
They start there.
But that is what the industry is from the pictures.
The warehouse looks tiny.
Yeah, yeah.
It looks like space in between.
And then the next to nothing.
Breeders are going to be like, oh, mine is better.
My drawers are fucking clean and bigger.
And like, you know, is it just some more stuff?
We're all when you're comparing the sizes of our drawers.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like that's some bush.
I like, no, that's the largest snake in the fucking world.
And the industry does not care for that animal.
And they put it on pine pellets.
Oh my god, that shit was horrible.
I was like, pine pellets.
And pellets to say.
No way.
Some of the dead animals had,
even new sprays and infections, I mean.
I mean, their faces were distorted.
Yeah, they were swollen, split open.
Yeah, like it was, it's pretty fucking graphic.
And then you have all these people
that have had connections with this man and they're quiet.
Yeah.
And it's like, yo, if I did some business
with somebody that was that scummy,
and I'm getting pointed out, I'm going to be like,
yo, fuck that, I didn't know.
But people are quiet.
Yeah, I mean, so as far as that goes,
it's, do you think that the people that have done business
with him know exactly what he's about?
Because there are people that didn't know
what he was about that bon animal.
I think no one knows as much as the employees that were there.
Yeah, no one knows as much as the people that were there.
But have you been to the facility itself?
If you've been to the facility, it's different.
But something that Darian said for Morph Market,
he was like, oh, if you do business with Samsung, whatever
the fuck.
Yeah.
Which, which, away from Morph Market,
which I think is do not did.
Do like currently.
Yeah.
From now on, you do business with the man you're
fucked if you did business before.
There's no way to tell whether that you knew or not.
There is no evidence for that, really,
except for one of the certain people.
One of the things in the Facebook group
that I enjoyed is that I think Rodney, he had looked,
he had sent these pictures and videos
to Reptile shows that Slither and Cad Binto.
And he was like, oh, this is the list
of the ones that responded and said, no,
we're not going to have him back.
And this is the list that ignored what he was sent.
And I'm like, damn.
And I'm glad everybody's picking up on that.
Because by the way, Morph Market, God, God,
if that motherfucker kicks you out, yeah.
If that motherfucker is, yeah, then
is the Reptile shows kicking you out.
He was already talking about bankruptcy.
He's fucked.
Yeah.
Money wise.
Money wise, this little pido motherfucker is fucked.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's really fucked.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that other than the fact that these pictures
are disgusting, have you guys seen any comments?
Have you seen anybody defending this guy?
Yes.
Really?
Yes.
Actually, he deleted the thing.
But he deleted that because he deleted that
because he was deleting the negative comments
and only leaving the positive comments.
Yeah.
There was a lot of people defending him.
There were some, yeah.
Wow.
Was there any comment that stuck out to you
like, yo, just serious?
What do you mean?
Positive comment that you were like, yo, can you
I mean, all of us bought an animal from them.
Yeah, most people were like, oh, I bought an animal
when it was fine.
And it's like, yeah, that's one animal out of hundreds.
Yeah.
Of course, one animal was going to make it.
He was also a flipper.
So I could get an animal from you, sell it fast.
Of course, I animals good.
Not the ones that are staying with him.
Speaking of his response.
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I've got, I've got also things to say.
Yeah, I got, I'm avoiding things.
I didn't read the whole thing.
It's funny, because at the beginning he goes,
some of you won't read this whole thing.
I'm like, no, I'm going to read the whole thing.
I'm like, dude, stop.
Listen, listen, you're a red the whole fucking thing.
It's studied it.
All right, so I also didn't read the whole thing.
Wow, you did it?
No, I did, I did, I did.
I was like, no, come on, bro, you got notes.
So I have notes.
I had to, like, pretty much, I skim through it.
So that way I can write down, like,
fresh all the notes that I had.
So these papers are my evidence of my notes, okay?
So if you go on the Facebook,
you can see the original post too.
Okay, cool, cool, great screenshots of it.
Yeah.
The first comment that I write here is,
he comments on people being blinded by rage
and says the pictures may have been taken out of context.
He writes about the laws of averages
saying large-scale breeding operations
will share a similar issue.
He blames employees as conspirators
and saying they should have done something different
because this makes the industry look bad.
He continues with writing,
I am sorry that these animals died
and that the inevitable,
the inevitable ugly truth behind the industry
was made public.
He then preaches to his quote supporters
saying that breeding animals is hard.
All living animals die
and tries to place blame on natural selection.
So, okay, let's start with the law of averages.
Yes, then why this is?
I knew you were coming with that.
Okay, it makes sense, right?
If you have smaller collections,
you will experience less death if you know what you're doing.
If you have a larger-scale operation,
you have more animals, there will be on average more death.
However, it's about how they die.
It's about how an animal dies.
Oh, I imported 100 dart frogs,
and then I lost 10 of them in the first week.
All right, you lost 10%.
That sucks.
I lost 10% of them because I put them on pine vetting.
It's like, okay, you killed them.
You killed them.
It's about how they die.
And especially with care and stuff like that,
I'm like, dude, your animals didn't die
because it just happens, animals just die.
Your animals died because of neglect,
because of abuse,
because, sure, you can blame it on your employees,
but if you're not running a tight operation,
you're the one that hiring your employees.
What are you doing?
Not even that.
The employees are there to take care of the animals,
but they can only take care of the animals
with the tools that you provide them.
Exactly.
So if the animals are in fucked-up bedding,
you're providing them with that bedding.
That's what you're telling them to do.
That's what they're gonna do.
Yeah, that's what they're gonna do.
Yeah, and I can't do anything else.
I've seen horrible enclosures.
I've seen people show me pictures of snakes and stuff.
I've worked in several Reptiles shops.
I know how dirty a water bowl can get.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know how dirty one can get
and seeing those pictures.
I'm like, that is horrid.
That thing has never been cleaned, you know?
Like, and I doubt a conspirator
and employee gosh, you know,
and his hands are wiped it all over this water dish
to take a picture.
No, I'm like, there's crust on this thing.
It's this, like the pine bedding,
like it usually comes in pellets.
It comes in little round pellets.
Some of the bedding was like how rodents
take care of the bedding and just water all over it
and it becomes mush.
And I'm like, that thing's been mushed for so long.
That thing's that we're in that mush,
that became the mush.
You only see the spines now.
But that's fucking crazy.
There was mushroom in some of these enclosures.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, he probably likes someone with his wife.
No way, geez.
All right, let's continue on this laws.
This makes come back to life.
Oh my God.
All right, the laws of that, oh.
There was that too, sorry, about the,
you wanted to say something about the laws of averages?
Yeah, I'm gonna keep reading this.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, he says, he's sorry,
that the ugly truth behind the industry is shown.
And I'm like,
with industry, you're talking about large retics.
Are you talking about constrictors?
Are you talking about the reptile industry as a whole?
You know, because he has a point there.
He has a point there.
I don't think most facilities look like his.
I really don't.
No, because that's, this is really, really like,
approach his.
It's boring.
You can't run a successful business
if you're like, yeah, I think for retics specifically,
there's a lot of facilities that look like him just clean.
I don't, I don't like.
I don't like that he's like,
wow, the employees did this to the industry,
putting these photos out.
It paints a bad line up.
That change of direction,
the change of direction from the blame.
And that's kind of what this whole thing was riddled in.
It's the change of direction for blame.
He's like, oh, they shouldn't be public.
They should be handled behind the scenes
and all this bullshit.
No, dude, like, no, motherfucker, this is the fucking truth.
Okay, what should be handled behind the scenes?
Yo, one of my blue tongues died today.
Fuck, damn, yo, I'm sorry.
Dude, all of my blue tongues died today
because I didn't feed them in three months.
Yo, dude, what the fuck are you doing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know?
Every said this before about like,
people putting, people calling people out, you know?
And I was like, yes, it's finally happy.
This is exactly what we were talking about.
Like, hey, yeah, and I call the cancel culture all you want.
It's like, no, this is literally like,
hey, this is what this person is doing.
You want to support this guy?
You can, I can't stop you.
But just know that if you support this person,
you're gonna have consequences.
This person is doing fuck shit.
No one who is new to this should be supporting this person,
all this other stuff.
I agree 100% what's happening.
Yo, Chuck's banana is still killing me.
Violate your NDAs.
I'm sorry if any like, legality comes for you guys,
but I stand with you right here.
We're broke.
We're broke, we're broke.
It's spirit.
All right, so on the laws of averages,
how many of you have found an animal in your collection
that was dead for no apparent reason?
The difference between you and I are the numbers.
The law of averages.
And how heavy are you?
Fuck.
For years, if a dead animal was found,
the policy was take a photo, send it to me,
and then we literally had a team meeting
in order to discuss everything and make.
And where?
Where it happened.
Yeah, again, to prevent issues in the future.
Okay, that's fine and dandy,
but you clearly didn't prevent any issues in the future.
He doesn't happen.
If he's saying, oh, I have so many animals,
I can't prevent how many die.
Oh, but you can take a picture every time everyone does,
and you can sit down and have a whole ass team meeting
about it.
No.
Everything's dying pellet.
All right, guys, a problem.
All right, guys, I know this is.
You're fired.
Grab the pellet.
If you don't call your hair pink, bitch.
Oh, my gosh.
Be like, sit down, be like, all right, guys.
I know this is our 20th meeting this week.
But, you know, I think it's one of you, guys.
Who's putting bleach in the water?
Who's putting bleach in the water, dude?
It's like, it's not you.
It's me, but it's the other way around.
It's not me.
It's you, literally.
Yeah.
All right, he talks about his collection
being heavily built by buying collections,
which is not uncommon in the industry, right?
But then he writes that a lot of the animals
were in poor condition.
And in me, as a business owner, that's bad business, right?
You're buying on a healthy stock
that could have different kinds of zoonotic diseases,
which can help, which will spread
into those quote-unquote investments that he has.
So that comment that he put there,
I'm just like, bro, like, what are you fucking about?
The retic that it came from this, like,
oh, man, I'm in a tight enclosure.
I haven't had water in like a week.
He goes to Samson's place and he's like,
what is this place?
He knows what to water.
Oh, it could get worse, I guess.
It could get worse.
The grass is greener on the other side.
Oh, my God.
By the way, we're fucking laughing.
Don't be soft, but it is a fucked up fucking story.
But it's nothing else we can fucking do.
Yeah, it's not that we're trying to make light
of the situation.
We are quite literally laughing at him now.
Because this is fucking stupid.
He's like, oh, I know this thing came from about home.
Worse.
Yeah, like the fact that this happened,
it's so fucking crazy.
That to me, it's funny.
Like, this guy is a fucking camera.
He can't make the right of a fucking camera.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like, this motherfucker is season two of tiger,
season three of Tiger King.
There we go.
Okay, season two is a serpent King.
No, no, season two is Tiger King again.
They just did like,
I was thinking, yeah, stupid.
Let's season two of Kay Brewer's King.
That's it.
Yeah, that's a Brewer King.
Brewer King.
Burger King.
Burger King.
Yeah, he doesn't want the fuck in me.
He's a good one.
All right, so on the retics of what we're talking about,
about like, you know, like a lot of breeding
of these fucking retics, thousands of babies, right?
He writes about how quick the turnover
with retic projects are.
Because so many offspring are born and are better genetically,
so it renders the parents genetically obsolete, so quick,
which makes me question large scale breeding of those animals,
as well as when he talks about auctions,
and then writes with auctions, you cannot see potential buyer,
you cannot screen potential buyers to figure out
if they could even handle the animals.
It would be for, I would be forced to sell dangerous animals
to people who couldn't handle them,
which would be forced to sell dangerous animals
or whatever that are them, which, you know,
the animals could end up in bad homes.
You're not forced to do anything, my guy.
You chose that species.
You chose that species, you chose to auction them.
And as somebody who has, as somebody who has quite literally worked
at one of these reptile auctions,
I know that the majority of those buyers would come back
and complain about something they didn't have that this.
You didn't tell me that the animal needed this.
They are usually now prepared.
They're trying to buy the animal for next to nothing.
They want the cheap animal.
Cheap animal, you're looking for a cheap animal,
that customer is not a quality customer.
They're not looking for the quality product.
They don't want to spend the money.
But those comments on retic breeding is so, so tantamount.
Because one of the things he said in the,
there's one of the things I wanted to bring up.
He's like, he said something that I've said before
and I think I've read someone else say before,
where it's like, oh, all these retics are being bred
all across the US.
Where are they?
Where are all the babies?
Where are all the retics?
Everyone is supposed to have it.
Everyone at this point, everyone should have
30 for retics in their house.
You know, it's like, no, no, because they die.
People kill them.
People are not prepared for the breeding business.
Or they're outside of Florida.
I would like to say real quick about the auction thing
that there's a difference between, you know,
an auction about of a specific breeder
that is auctioning their quality animals.
They're like, oh, get your chance to get into this project.
And there's a difference between...
Just auctioning to auctioning.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
He writes that during COVID, he was desperate for help.
And then that, which is something that I personally
can understand.
Everybody was like that, right?
But, you know, we're talking about breeding live animals.
If you cannot care for your own stock on your own,
if needed, then you should rethink how many animals you should have.
I was gonna say, during COVID,
did you put everything on Pine Palace?
You still think water bowls, right?
You have more time to do so.
You're like, I don't got work.
Guess that's all I do.
You know, so the perspective that these living things
are just commodities, in my opinion, needs to change.
Because more breeders, more breeding animals
doesn't necessarily mean more money.
It means more liability.
These animals are not assets or liabilities.
They can die, they cannot breed,
they can do whatever the fuck they want.
They are alive.
So if you're looking at this animal,
it's just a commodity,
and you're just growing your collection,
growing your collection to something that you can't handle,
like you're not a business owner at that time.
You are hoarding animals.
Yeah.
Or you have a lot of pets, but okay,
but then don't fucking be like,
but my business, you know?
I think that affects too many people,
like business owners and breeders,
where they're like, the loss is kind of,
either maybe they're experiencing too much loss,
or they can't really think about it,
because they're too emotionally immature.
But it's like, no, I need to see this as a roast them.
Yeah, I guess so.
It's like, I need to see this as a loss of product.
Yeah, you know, like, oh, I just write it off.
Write it off as loss, you know, that's it.
You know, and it's like, you don't sit down
and take the time to be like, this animal was alive.
You know, this animal had a personality,
had feelings and wanted.
Instead of being like, shit dies,
let me figure out how to make shit, not die.
Yeah.
This is the most shit that dies,
the less money you make, too.
It's like, you suck as a businessman
and taking care of the animals.
Like, you are just asked at everything you're doing like.
Yeah.
Like, you just suck at breathing at this point, bro.
You suck at everything.
You suck the soul out of the fucking employees you had, bro.
Like, you are garbage, a waste of a human being.
I agree.
You put dogs to fight.
You put fucking dogs to fight.
Then you get into the reptile industry
and you fuck up all over again
by not taking care of the thing that is making you money.
Why not take care of the product that is making you money?
I was gonna say, I'd never heard of Slyther ink
does he have a good reputation?
I don't think so.
Like, are there a lot of people that are like,
oh yeah, I bought from Slyther ink?
I mean, he had a big enough reputation
I've heard of him before.
I mean, he was on Brian Cusco.
He was on podcasts before.
He has a whole bunch of morphs for the retakes
that he is the one that started them
according to certain people.
Which makes you question,
like, should you always trust all the people that came before?
Old people should die.
Old people will die.
That's just, but like, sooner, but like, sooner.
Like, put something like,
I don't wanna say that.
You usually say, put something in the water.
All right, so he continues to excuse himself
in the thing that he wrote
by talking about mechanical issues.
AC issues and blaming employees.
I did, I wrote, I write here,
I did glance over the part where he gives
too much information about former employees' personal life
because it seemed like a deflection
from the actual problem.
He literally said that some people
wanted to like be swingers with him.
Yeah.
I'm like, who?
Oh, fucking who?
I'm sorry, that someone swinging with you
made you put pine pellets in your chair.
That's my matter, bro.
He was getting so much push.
He couldn't get rid of it.
No, bro, but for real, like,
I saw one of the interviews with one of the employees
and she was saying that one of the things
for her to come down and work out there
for $10 an hour.
Let's start there.
$10 an hour.
She would live there or some shit too.
And she would also get to sleep with both of them.
Bone is with him and his wife.
So it's like, he's blaming other people.
And it sounds illegal.
You're like, yo, yo, come work for me.
Here's money to take care of my snakes,
but you're having sex with me.
Yeah, yeah, not only that,
but it's like, he's pointing out
about other people being swingers
and an employee is pointing out them
for being swingers and he points back
and everybody is a fucking swinger.
It's like a spider-man meme.
Everybody is a swinger, bro.
Everybody is a swinger.
Like, what the fuck, bro?
Like, boy, I'm gonna tell, okay.
Okay, I gotta admit this, I'm with the guy.
What a fucking great storyteller.
This shit is like, he goes, he goes,
oh, I'm gonna tell a story,
which I'm a great storyteller.
He is great.
I'm not lying, bro.
You know what story he didn't tell?
What?
Why is the character on the freezer?
Oh, no, it's one of the cats that he have claws
or some shit.
He said something about that.
So, bro, bro, like, that ass,
he can tell a fucking story.
Like, the whole time I'm reading, I say,
god damn, like, he put like his innocence on the line
and then love in the process of his wife is sick
and she's having all those funs.
Leave her alone.
Look at me instead.
And then it's like, everybody wants to fuck me.
It's like, it's a challenge over here.
It's a challenge over here, it's a challenge over here.
My snakes are dying.
Oh, god, please.
What a good storyteller.
Like, that ass.
I had to use porn.
Yeah.
Yo, but for real though, his dick game must be on point.
Oh, my gosh.
That ass.
That ass, bro.
All right, so, not enough.
The employee still took pictures.
You know, his dick game was good,
but he did come first.
No, no, no, no, no.
His raise was fire.
From a distance, he was like,
hey, mama.
There was that video mirror.
There was a video that he was grabbing some chicks ass.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's in person.
That's going to, that's going to crazy.
He bought a Photoshop to himself and a bodybuilder.
Yeah.
Doesn't he have a workout thing?
Like, there's a slither workout thing,
like a workout protein or something?
No, there is, there is.
It's a pretty thick powder.
Oh, my god.
It's your rates.
Crushed up your rates.
Not even.
It's just fine, bro.
After they die, he just melts them.
Okay, let's get to meet with boat marrow, he says.
Yeah.
So there's two employees he talks about
that seem to also falter with animal care.
Again, that's not the problem in hand.
He explains the backstory of some of the animals
that died and why they died.
He has to go through every picture and be like,
this and die, because this and that.
Yeah, he did.
He didn't, he said he wasn't going to,
because there was two back.
Yeah, but he did some of them.
He did some of them.
And I'm going to tell you right now.
It was like episodes that I was reading.
He said good storyteller.
Like, bro, hop out of the reptile
industry via the book.
That asked right about a bullshit.
Yeah.
That's, he will be good in fantasy.
The retic king.
Oh, he is.
No, he's like, not the retic king.
The retic kilker.
The jester.
The retic jester.
Oh, it didn't.
Jesus.
Jester the molester.
Jester the molester.
Retiqual.
That's the name of that set.
So finally, he writes, and this one,
I actually fucking quote it exactly with a rope.
All right, while animals die,
it is not a good idea for anyone in the industry
to post any of that information publicly.
If you post stuff like this, if you are a continuously negative,
you are the cancer that is rotting this industry
from the inside out.
And you should be ashamed of yourself.
Yeah, we should be ashamed of ourselves.
Have you ever seen me say anything public that could
be detrimental to our industry?
How many times have you seen me publicly trash anyone?
How many times have you seen me personally
bring any negativity or drama to this industry?
I know.
Yeah, literally.
And then look at all the people who have used me
and posted negative and derogatory things about me,
including these horrible discussing pictures,
and then decide who you think is good or bad.
Judge who you think is good or bad.
OK, judge me by the animals and people that I helped.
I am a good person, judge me by my failures,
and the laws of averages, and I am a monster.
That's a fact.
He is a monster.
Yeah, I right here, in the end of the day,
he gives a half-ass apology by making excuses
and blaming others.
There was no lack of help.
The business does not belong to his team.
The business is his.
He is responsible for what happens.
He takes responsibility for the good, the bad, and the ugly,
just as he deals with the rewards of his animal sales
and growth.
I'm sure there are many reasons that
led to up to what happened, but that
doesn't disregard that this is neglect and animal abuse.
That is the issue at hand.
Yeah.
Yoshi.
Yoshi.
Bars.
Microp.
OK, so I want to get to the other side of this,
because we haven't talked about Cass very much.
I don't know anything about her.
Was she yet fall?
You've read enough about her or no?
This is the thing.
I didn't understand what her involvement with the whole
situation is.
I know that things can get sticky when
it's you and a partner.
I understand that she was some kind of influencer.
She, yeah, she, but she worked there full time.
OK, she's part of the facility.
Work there full time.
The only thing is one of the girls since they've been married.
Well, OK.
The girl that is one of the employees,
or was one of the employees, said that she actually
one-time-ass Cass, like how they
to get here, like, about her life type of thing,
and Cass sounded like somebody that should not
be their type of thing.
Like, once she got with him, she started using drugs.
He buys her things just to keep her there.
And she allegedly, according to this person.
Yeah, yeah.
And I mean, the interview is out as well.
On R&B Reptiles, I think it is what it's called.
And I feel like, yeah, she could be innocent in that aspect
where he's going to vanish of this fucking No Eyebrow bitch.
But like, at the same time, like, you were there
and you've seen it, and you know what's happening.
She really loved the animals.
Why would you not say something?
Yeah, like, how do you try to fix this?
Oh, yeah.
I'd be like, yo, motherfucker, like, she
should tell him, like, yo, bro, I'm not
going to suck your dick until you fix this.
You know?
Yeah, but then one of the other employees,
there were swimmers.
Yeah.
God damn it.
You're right.
Fuck.
OK.
He had no problem getting the dick sucking.
You're right.
God damn it.
How the fuck?
How the fuck?
I don't know.
OK, so then after that, it's like, OK,
so Darion comes out and says that he's banned for more money.
He said that he was begging this dude.
No, yeah, I was like, yo, everybody is begging.
No, no, no, no, not begging.
Pagging.
Pagging.
No, no, no, but he, like, said that he was going
to move him out of Morph Market.
And anybody that does business with him will be removed.
I think his does not did.
That would make sense because then you're just calling
people guilty without knowing what their actual involvement was.
Maybe they've never been to his facility
onto different states.
You know, that person should not be part of the problem
because they just did business.
They live in two different places.
Now, I want to get to my favorite part of it
that Ronnie brought up.
Mind you, I don't think it's really part of it.
But just for fun, Z's, I'm going to bring it up
because it's hilarious.
It will be Garrett from Reach Out Reptiles.
Yeah, I don't know his involvement either.
OK, so the screenshots are here of the conversations
between people snitching on Garrett
because he won on a podcast.
And then him apologizing after he does say, yes.
OK, so this is somebody asking Samson,
like if he has any involvement with Garrett.
He said that if he has to expose Garrett,
it's going to be public.
That's what Samson said.
So I'm waiting on that.
Even though Garrett apologized, if he's going down,
I hope he takes Garrett with him.
If there is something, well, the thing is that Garrett
is going to stand by him if there is something.
That's probably why he has to say that.
Yeah, but he apologized.
Oh, the apology is recent.
Oh, I have the video.
I have the video of the apology in what the apology is for.
He said, he called me and asked me if I wanted a free snake.
So Reach Out Reptiles Garrett gave him a free snake.
Samson.
To Samson, yeah.
And then the person talking and saying,
why would he give it for free?
He said, I said, no, because I have
zero interest in the project.
Then he convinced me that it was a good project.
So he convinced him to take this snake for free.
And I think, from whatever memory,
it was actually an exchange according to Garrett.
I think not completely sure.
But then, if you see the podcast with MJ,
trap talk at the end, so on that podcast,
MJ starts very light, very light, very light.
And then he just swings with the question.
So it caught Garrett off guard.
He wasn't ready for the question.
And he freaked out and started singing like a bird.
And then he stopped himself halfway.
Like trying to say, oh, I didn't do business,
but I did do business.
I just gave him something for free, but I didn't.
But like, you know, like, they didn't know where to stand.
And then ended up talking shit about Samson.
Like saying what?
Like about bad facility?
Like, no, no, like just about the person.
Him as a person.
Got him as a person.
And then somebody sends this to Samson.
Says, it's the podcast itself.
Yeah, Samson watches it.
And he goes, damn, ran me under the bus.
Question mark, LOL.
The guy goes, you might want to watch it.
He said you were shady.
And everyone was saying you abuse animal still.
So now Samson knows about it.
He sends it to Garrett.
Here's the screenshot.
Samson sends it to Garrett.
To Garrett.
And he goes, are you serious?
He goes, are you serious right now?
Let me talk for the fuck of shit.
He goes, are you serious right now?
Question mark sends a screenshot of the podcast.
He said, brother, brother, I recorded our calls.
I knew you would do this.
You're just not that too smart, are you?
I'm so angry.
You fucking lied.
You ran me under the bus.
You called me shady.
You said you would never send me anything.
I've known from day one that you will eventually do this.
I recorded every call we've ever made.
Every text, every single communication ever.
I'm going to give you 30 minutes to write up
and post a complete retraction about everything
you said about me.
After 30 minutes, I start writing and posting.
This shit is crazy.
30 minutes to get it.
Garrett replies, I would love to.
I do not want every text we do to some shit.
He misspelled some shit.
I will happily have a conversation with you and text.
Will you please call me first?
He tries to call Samson?
Samson doesn't answer.
This podcast blindsided me.
I cannot text back and forth about it right now.
But if you want to talk about it first,
I'm happy to text it all back or you can record it or whatever.
And let's just leave it at that.
A little bit after that, this bullshit comes out.
It's a bright B-line with all kinds of crazy stuff.
I'm not expecting it didn't go too pretty.
So I wrote this stuff down.
First and foremost, I want to publicly
apologize to both Rob Roush and Samson Prue.
I remember this video.
I was very confused about what it was about.
I didn't get it and now there's context.
Yeah.
So is he at fault for doing business?
I don't know.
But if Samson really has something on this motherfucker, he's fucked.
If it's real.
If it's real.
No, but that's what I'm saying.
Garrett's not going to go against him then.
Because he doesn't seem like it.
He's quiet.
Well, he can't because Samson has to.
If there is something.
This is the thing.
Otherwise, why wouldn't he?
Yeah, but this is the thing.
We're thinking that this guy that is an animal abuser,
has been lying, is changing the blame.
And we're like, you must have something.
He probably doesn't have anything.
That's what we should say.
But if he doesn't, why doesn't Garrett speak up?
Isn't that what a USR gets about?
People are talking.
No, fucking with people are calling out Garrett.
But why do you assume that Garrett is associated himself
with USR?
He is one of the spokesperson for it, right?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Yes, bro.
I don't know.
He's on the YouTube channel.
Bro. Oh, he's on the YouTube channel.
Yeah.
Bro, this is the thing.
You go to a USR.
You go to the YouTube.
Watch this shit.
Watch this shit.
I'm pretty sure Garrett's one of the videos, like,
oh, so pretty.
Because we actually have Phil Goss and Daniel Parker.
That's the president of USR.
How the fuck, yeah, I got this motherfucker.
Having your fucking logo on his shirt, talking about all this,
and you don't put pressure on the motherfucker.
Well, because it's about the right to the animals.
They don't care about how the animals are treated.
Exactly.
Like, is he going to stay within that organization
after this bullshit?
If there is something, if there isn't.
Because this also could affect USR.
If you care about USR, and you do some bullshit like this,
you might cause it some shit.
Yeah.
The organization you're part of.
The thing is, is that the people that are going to be in USR,
the number one people, they're going to be the hots,
they're going to be the crocs,
and they're going to be the large constrictors.
Because those are the animals that get banned.
Those ones that are banned here, you know?
So, yeah, those people are going to stay with USR.
Those are going to be the top supporters.
USR is not going to drop Garrett.
No, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like assuming that there's something.
The thing is, the thing is, if he just wants...
Why wouldn't there be something?
Why wouldn't Garrett say it?
Oh, there is probably something.
Like, I've always known there's some scummy motherfuckers in this.
There are some within USR and USR Florida.
There's so many people that has to be law of averages.
Oh, that's a good one.
Hey!
I mean, look, but this is the thing.
We're making a very bold assumption.
I don't know the student.
Garrett says something.
Yeah, that's the thing, but that's the thing.
And that's quiet.
And he didn't, he didn't oppose.
You're quiet, boy.
This is what...
What I'm trying to say is that we are making the assumption,
but there is a big question mark,
which I think that your guy's opinion is valid.
Because you're like, okay, so wait.
Why aren't you fucking saying anything?
This guy says, yeah, something.
If he really doesn't know anything...
Yeah, if something happens,
if something happens anywhere where I worked,
and they're like, oh, were you involved?
I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I'll clean my hands as quick as possible.
Yeah, fuck that.
I'm not part of that shit.
Because he has his own business.
Then what?
That business gets fucked, too.
You're gonna allow your business to fall
in the...
In the...
Come on, dog.
In the Facebook group, there's a lot of memes.
And Chuck had come out with a meme
with like the Infinity War poster.
For the endgame poster.
Endgame poster.
And he put a picture of it.
We'll put it in the end.
We put a bunch of our faces on the characters.
Obviously, Thanos being Samson.
You've got Cass's face and like the background.
But then...
Was she Ebidimal?
Was she Ebidimal?
No, there was just a planet and I put it in the end.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
But then...
Garrett is in there.
Yeah.
And so someone made a comment.
Oh, Garrett, what was he?
He was next to you, I think.
He was on with the two things.
Who fights with the two things.
Oh, Widow.
Black Widow?
I think he's Widow.
Maybe probably.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah.
So then someone had commented on that post saying,
like, oh, you put Garrett on the wrong team.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have a question.
Yeah.
Text him right now.
He's flying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have a question.
Who is that other chick?
Which one?
Okay.
So I'm Winter Soldier.
The one in the middle.
Garrett.
Oh, the one with the piercing.
Yeah.
Who is that?
That is another employee.
That's one of the employees.
And she was like, what's her situation in this?
So in what he wrote, she's one of the names.
I think her name was Jenna.
Okay.
And she's one of the names that he mentioned on his post,
like blaming all these things.
And then he said, that's why I fired her.
And as soon as that video comes out, she goes on the group chat
and goes, screenshot, screenshot, screenshot, I quit.
And he never fired me.
And then she pointed out that like everything he said, she pointed out, like, no, I let
him know.
This was a problem with the animal.
And this is why he replied.
Yeah.
That's why I put her in there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was like all over.
I was like, I wrote down.
Name, name, name, name, name, arrows on a notebook and shit, bro.
Has U.S. accidentally think about Samsung?
They're not going to.
Damn.
This year has been insane.
This year is fucking crazy.
In the industry is fucking crazy.
It's fucking crazy.
But like I'm glad that finally a U.S.
Ark mother fucker is on some heat to see how they react to it.
Yeah.
And to cause you already know that some of these people are going to be like, what is
that?
He's not saying that he's actually glad that U.S.
Ark is going to get fucked.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
All right.
How do you fucking?
He's saying, how do you react to this when one of your guys is doing the thing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just want to see.
I'm not trying to see like a whole organization farm.
That's what you're saying.
Let's see how you deal with some fuckery.
Are you going to have a bad apple?
Are you going to bring it up?
Are you going to have a conversation with him behind the scenes?
Maybe that happens.
But nobody would know.
So I would say that's still shit.
Or are you going to, yo, you're putting a bad name on us.
Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah.
We also have to remember that, you know, for public relations reasons, a lot of that
stuff probably will not be public because they have to keep a clean image.
I mean, the organization has to.
Yeah.
But then they're giving shit.
Yeah.
But then you're doing the same thing.
You're doing the same thing.
You're blaming.
Yeah.
You're pointing out of FWC.
Okay.
You're the same organization.
And that's what I've always said.
You're the same organization into different sides.
Yeah.
But if that's the way they deal with it, it's like, you're scummy.
That's politics, baby.
Yeah, it is.
I got to do that.
But it just proves if there is one bad apple, there's multiple in that bitch.
No, yeah, yeah.
So it cannot be trustworthy.
Yeah.
Where?
But see, USR has to say something.
They have to say something because people were going to put pressure on them.
Bro, when the, when the, when they'll be like, hey, why aren't you saying anything about
them?
When the vibrant shit was going on, what did they say?
Those people were members.
That's different.
It doesn't matter.
It's different.
It's different.
It's different.
It's different because someone pays.
It's always pressure.
Yeah.
It's always pressure.
But before with the, what is it?
Operation Vipership.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Silence.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think Chuck's whole thing.
His actual whole thing that people need to understand about what he has the issue with USR
is the accountability.
Yeah.
Accountability.
Accountability.
And he's not saying, oh, USR should say, oh, we are to blame, but more like this is what
we do not represent.
Yeah.
This is what we represent.
Which is what we do now.
Which is there's multiple videos we're running.
He knows how to dig his shit.
He posted a video with a whole bunch of USR people saying, we do not support neglect of
animals.
We do not support this.
We don't support this.
We don't support this.
We don't support animal abuse.
We don't support this.
Multiple clips.
Is Daniel, Garrett, and then the other Phil.
Phil Goss.
Yeah.
It's all three of them saying those things.
But you can say that all you want.
No.
Yeah.
What's the action that he turned up?
What's the action?
What's the action behind that?
Yep.
What are your actions?
Yeah.
I can say right now, I super conservation.
How do you know I do?
Because you say it at least once a week on this podcast, but that is all verbal shit.
I know it's one of the interesting thing is that so I come into the shop the day after
I joined the group, right?
I'm talking with one of the employees too.
And then one of the guys he comes in, Manning's been, he comes in and he goes, oh, are
you talking about Samson?
And I said, yes.
And he's like, people know he's been doing stuff like that.
Yeah.
For a while.
Of course.
For a while.
And I was like, these pictures aren't recent.
People have known he's been doing this.
Yeah.
They just don't know how to go about it.
And all those people are being quiet.
Yeah.
And it's one thing for them to be like, not my problem.
You know, it'd be like, it's not my business, whatever.
I bought snakes.
I saw them snakes.
Yeah.
Not my deal.
But if you have a different connection.
But then there's a different one if you're like, it's different if you're like, oh,
that's normal.
Yeah.
It's different if you're like, oh, my facility is the same way.
Yeah.
And according to Rodney, Gary has been to that facility with Rodney.
So it's like, who is Rodney?
What's his story?
Yeah.
What's his whole situation?
Oh, fuck.
Is he a breeder?
Is he a business?
Yeah.
This guy is the man right now.
Yeah.
He's Captain America.
I feel like he's a right.
No, the man at the end of the day, he's still there, you know, dude.
Like, he literally just said, you want to kiss Darien.
Bro, if he comes on the podcast again, bro, we're inviting him.
No, but listen, listen, listen.
The fact that he could just go, I'm cutting this percentage out of your business.
Goodbye.
Yeah.
That's godly, dude.
That's like, oh, you cut his pockets?
Mm-hmm.
That's a man that could cut your pockets?
For a fuckery like that?
That's ee.
And then Rodney cut off the shows.
Ee.
That's another move.
That's Rodney's shit.
Cause Rodney said, spread this.
And then the show see Darien did this.
Yeah.
That motherfucker's god.
Let's not fuck with that guy.
Let's not fuck with that guy cause everybody gets cut.
Pull that motherfucker out.
Nobody gives a fuck about his business.
Everybody cares about their own.
So they're going to be like, pull him.
What's the distinction for animal abuse?
What do you mean?
What makes something abuse?
Yeah, what actually makes it abuse?
Because in this industry, I mean, there's a lot of it.
There's a thing that people say, like, if you have livestock,
you have death, death, shock, right?
Then there's also like, we also just knowing
that we work with live animals.
What that's actually trying to say is that we are expecting
some kind of death.
But what really is this animal abuse?
So within the industry?
Yeah, yeah, within the industry.
So within the industry, so you have an animal, right?
That animal has necessities.
Necessities and not like doing an animal right afterwards,
but it should have rights within your home.
Fresh water is one.
It's not hard to give an animal fresh water, bro.
That's a necessity.
Fresh water, easy.
The way it lives.
How do you keep them?
Can you move around?
Can you get heat?
Can you get away from the heat?
Can you hide and feel comfortable?
Right?
How are you handling it?
Right? Are you fucking pulling,
fucking doing helicopters with this motherfucker?
Are you treating it like a fucking living organism?
If an animal is sick, how do you deal with it?
Do you ignore it?
Do you quarantine it?
Do you go to a vet?
Are you keeping it with too many others?
Are you feeding it the right thing?
Yeah.
Are you putting it on the right bedding?
All of that.
What chemicals are you using?
One of the problems is that there's no standards of care.
Yeah, there's no set standard of care
where you can be like, hey, this is clearly a beauty.
Species by species.
Yeah, but you love turtles.
If you see a turtle in a critter creeper, this big.
Yeah, of course, yeah.
Animal, you already look at it and go,
what the fuck?
Because you know what the animal is about.
And then as a business owner,
these animals are offering you something.
These animals, their life are offering you
a little friend.
I have a friend that does not see his animals as pets.
He straight up tells me, I don't see my animals as pets.
They're products that I make money out of.
And because of that, he takes great care of them.
But that's what I'm saying, dude.
But that's what it should be.
People think of business and they're like,
ah, fuck it, it's just a product.
No, it's your product.
Like, you have to take care of your product, right?
Secure your investment.
Yeah, exactly.
Where there's people that see my friend
that thinks that way, I love that man to death
because he's straight up.
I have too much emotion attached to the animals.
He barely has any because what he sees money.
But his care a lot of times is superior to even mine.
And I look at him and I'm like, why?
But he's like, this is what I do.
He is intelligent as fuck, knows what the animal needs
and provides that shit.
What do you think?
Is there any way that Samson looks forward
in this industry like this?
Bro, it's been too many years.
He is stuck to those ways.
Okay.
That is one of those like old heads
that is stuck to the ways.
I think with this kind of like this kind of PR too,
it's gonna be really hard for him to come back.
And what he wrote, and what he wrote already,
he was already going bankrupt, bro.
He already used all his credit cards, like he said.
He's fucked up with money.
He's thought about leaving this industry as it is
because he's not making it.
He is fucked.
Because the car is gone.
If he had the money, he could go, yo,
let me upgrade this shit.
He doesn't have it.
No.
He can't.
Yeah.
And if he tries to sell now, nobody wants anything
to do with him.
How is that money gonna come in now?
That was one of the like several posts
that a lot of people were concerned about too.
It's like, oh, where are these animals going to?
Any animals?
They're going to die.
They're going to die.
Well, we're gonna be dealing with this situation
for the next few weeks.
Which is not going to be a one and done thing.
People little by little are doing their videos.
Because one of the things is like,
oh, how is this man not in jail for animal abuse?
And it's because there's no standards of care.
People don't care.
Someone has that physically stupid.
How does one end up in jail?
If that was Florida, you'd be fucked.
Okay.
Well, a state that's right would have to take up the case.
And we're gonna get this as worth pursuing.
FWC does not fuck with that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's a positive to them.
Like if you know FWC is coming in,
bro, no matter the water could look clean,
you're gonna clean it again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what I like about.
I don't know.
North Carolina, I think.
I don't remember.
I don't remember.
I have no idea.
I don't remember.
But that's the one thing about FWC,
if they show up and they see that shit,
that's a violation.
Yeah.
Anything, if there's poop in the enclosure, violation.
Do you think his wife comes out clean from this?
Define clean.
Not anymore.
Define clean, how?
In the sense of like, can she continue?
Will she continue to be this quote unquote influencer?
No.
Will she have a safe space?
She can try, she can try,
but she's gonna get some heat over it.
The one thing she can do, which I see happening.
Bro, he's a piece of shit of a human being.
She's, she's screwed.
She's married to the guy.
Hold up.
That's what's different.
He's a piece of shit of a human being, right?
He is gonna go through a lot money wise.
He's probably gonna abuse the fucking girl.
If this girl gets out of that relationship,
she's going to make it by talking.
Yep.
She's gonna throw the man under the bus.
That saves her.
Cause everybody was gonna wanna listen.
But she hasn't said anything, huh?
She hasn't said anything.
She's going through some health shit supposedly right now.
So she has been out of the,
I imagine.
Away from this shit.
She's been, bro, he's not caring for her either.
No.
You're married to prove it.
It's probably the cause of your mental health.
Yeah, not even like, like health, like health.
Well, hopefully she gets better.
I mean, outside of the situation,
which are the best for that.
Yeah.
I feel like she's probably a victim
that just supported the guy.
The guy.
Yeah.
Kind of in it for the times kind of thing.
Yeah.
In it for it because of the money.
Maybe she loves him.
And she's like, oh, we'll get better.
Yeah.
But that could be struggling with money.
Yeah.
Bro, no.
No.
See, that's the thing.
How do you work there full time?
But bro, marry the guy.
How much of it did she see is what I'd like to know?
All of it.
You worked there full time.
How do you guys know?
You're technically fucking hers.
I literally just put the photos of her with the cats.
And then I put this in cat and the fucking freezer.
Yeah.
But that's a dangerous thing that I'm saying about like,
how long it is?
How long is that?
Like, what is the timeline?
Because I don't know how long they've been married.
I don't know when they had cats.
I don't know when he had this.
When he had that.
Yeah.
What she saw.
Well, she has changed.
She works there full time.
She has seen it.
She has fucking seen it.
Point is, the only way out she leaves them comes out
and speaks.
Everybody's going to want to listen.
I've seen multiple people do that.
Multiple girls, mostly.
I know one of them.
I'm not going to say names just to leave her alone,
but she had like a problem with drugs.
And that's a shit that he shared where I'm like, yo,
like, that's putting someone shit out there, dude.
That's like, that's your wife.
Yeah, yeah.
But the thing is, the thing is, this is another girl.
Got into drugs with a band guy.
Oh, he got her into drugs.
Oh, she used to work with firm?
No, no, no, no, no.
There's other girl.
There's a YouTuber girl.
She gets with him.
And then she used to do reptile stuff.
They're her videos.
She gets with him, gets her day to day drugs.
Then she gets out.
When she gets out, her videos are a lot
now about her addiction to drugs.
She tells you how long she's been clean.
And when she fucks up, she does another video.
She also talks about her relationship with the man.
And everybody's fucking watching.
That's that girl's way out.
OK.
That's that girl's way out.
It's a toughy, man.
It is a toughy.
Well, final thoughts on this guy, on this situate.
Well, as of right now, because we're
probably going to be fucking talking about this for a while.
Yeah.
I hope someone cops him for animal abuse.
I don't know if all that's going to happen.
I think he's probably going to come out probably clean,
but no business.
Yeah.
No reputation.
Yeah, no reputation.
Dirty guilty.
His wife, guilty.
I hope Garrett responds questionable.
I hope Garrett responds.
I hope you ask our response.
Nate, bro, I hope so too.
I hope so too.
I hope they put pressure.
Because I like, please, my last hope.
My last, like, please do something because it's like,
I've been talking about this.
And I know you feel very defensive about it.
I've been talking about it, bro.
It's not a defensive.
More than it is, like, I want them to come on the pod, dude.
For sure, for sure.
But it's like, that's what I've been talking about.
That's what the fuck I've been talking about.
I'm not about defending.
I'm about perspective.
And I really do appreciate your perspective on it.
Whether I agree with it or not,
I think it's your thoughts are very important
to be able to question certain things, man.
Yeah.
And that's what I'm saying.
I'm saying, let's see what you do with this.
Because if you stay quiet, that's another reason
for me to be like scum.
Yep.
All right, fine.
I like the person.
Did you give your final thoughts?
Yeah, yeah, Samson Jail, cast, I don't know.
Garrett has to say something.
U.S. I guess this is something.
And then I was going to say, oh, and everybody
that's calling out because Garrett,
prove it didn't make them all sign NDAs.
I hope you all get out safe.
Yeah.
Please get out safe.
But what I was going to say about U.S. I can get it,
it doesn't have to be come out with negative shit.
But if you have proof that the negative is fake,
come out with that.
Or prove that your hands are clean.
Yeah, exactly.
That also matters.
It's like whatever it is, put it out.
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All right, before we get into listener comments,
you're herbing adventure?
Oh, yeah, we did.
Yeah, yeah.
So I've been out herping with Chuck before
and he took me once to go see some scorpions.
This was like the first time I'd ever seen scorpions under
black lights and looking for them outside.
So I was like, this is so cool.
It's so much fun.
Then a customer came in and was like, oh,
you want some seagrassilis, some like the Florida
bark scorpions, the lender bark scorpions.
I was like, absolutely, sure, I'll take some.
So I took some really, really getting into the scorpion
care, really liked them.
I never really liked them before, because for the most part,
you get a lot of like Asian forests, Arizona's,
that you have to keep separate.
You know, you keep them separate.
And it's like, you move the enclosure too much.
They move too much.
They don't want to eat.
And then the same thing with like super, super hot species.
It's like the same story.
So I'm like, I never really got into it.
But with the sanctuity species, it's different,
because you can keep adults together.
So I'm like, this is kind of cool.
I kind of like this aspect.
So then I started reading about Florida natives.
The sanctuity is hensy.
The ones that we want to see.
And I'm like, these are so cool.
You can also keep these together.
So I was like, you know what?
I'm going to do the preservation thing of like having
a secure colony for species and making sure that like,
hey, you know, someone has the thing.
Someone has it.
If anything ever happens, you know, it can work.
So I was like, oh, let's go find some scorpions.
So we go find some.
We poached.
We did.
We poached.
We took them out.
Well, it's not poking, because we have to sell them.
And sell them.
Nothing's for sale.
I'm not selling any babies and adults.
There's babies, we got to release them.
Yeah, yeah, in the same spot.
Yeah, it's fun.
We found like nine for the whole night.
Two of which were were babies.
Yeah, broke microscopic.
Yeah, yeah, super small.
So that adult got away from us and chuck off.
Fucked.
No, bro, the scorpions stung me on my thumb.
I heard it hurt.
It hurt my whole thumb hurt.
And then they moved to my hand and then my arm.
Like up to here, just pain.
And then after that, it went down, down.
How long did it take for to get better?
Again, I got to have.
Fuck, were you ever nervous?
No.
Yeah.
It's not life-thining, yeah.
It was allergic.
He would have reacted immediately.
Yeah, literally.
I literally got hit.
And I was like, fuck, he got me.
And I was like, fuck.
And then they asked me how much of this
and I was a seven out of 10, god damn it.
Yeah, I heard.
They'll think facts about it.
I don't think I already beat her.
Look at you.
No, fun, yeah.
And now I got six of them.
I also heard you lost your fucking keys.
I did lose my keys.
Yes.
Did you ever find them?
No, I did find them.
Where were they?
Yeah, they were my car.
Wow.
So I go back to the car.
Look, I go back to the car.
And I'm shining my flashlight in there.
And I can't find them.
And it's because I left them in the back.
And I never do that.
I never do that.
I'm going to look in the back.
And they have to be on the front seat.
I'm like, damn, I really lost them in the woods.
Yep.
And it's funny because I have an imperial lanyard.
So someone would have been like, oh, imperial.
The keys to the shop.
Oh, my god.
That was suck.
Give me your full screen.
Get the comments.
Oh, yeah.
Get to listen to their comments real quick.
Then we'll do our TikTok things and get them out of here.
We're dancing.
Yeah.
Is that the thing you sent me?
Yeah.
OK.
So on the last episode, Chuck said some questionable things.
And we have here a comment.
Bro, what did Chuckie did to an alligator, bro?
What did I say?
You were like, I came in an alligator.
So I was like, you came in a what?
I did.
I mean, when I look at a clique, I just, oh, my gosh.
All right.
We also talked about the, well, it was a couple of podcasts
ago, the Darian thing, we're not right.
So somebody writes, I think that he is helping the smaller
breeders out.
He is also calling people out on their BS as well, which
Chuck's a big fan of.
And then somebody else writes, I don't see an issue with making
the wild caught label or import more noticeable.
Lots of shady sellers try to minimize that or mislabel
completely.
Also, think that wild caught or imports when done right
are good for the hobby.
As new species are introduced to the hobby,
it gives locals a sense of to keep the wild populations
and protect their habitats.
But not for pets, not as pets.
Gosh, I don't agree with doing things
for likes, especially eating elephant poop.
But I do remember a certain someone eating bugs
for their Instagram.
That's you.
But I guess what?
I was 19 years old.
Not 1775.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
I don't know what's yours.
Oh, fucks.
Something I will say on this mislabeling or whatever,
the change of the wild caught and the import stuff,
that did not solve the issue yet, because you get so far.
You put your post up.
You can say it's not wild.
Yeah, it ain't going to fix it, bro.
It really ain't cool, cool.
But it's good enough to like, it's a start.
Yeah, it's a start somewhere.
We're starting a little point.
A little point to show.
All right, let's get these videos out.
It says, me, after being in the hobby for a year,
so this is Samson when the police comes together.
No, I don't snakes for nothing, do you?
Maybe I got snakes for nothing.
No, I'm not even in this house to the young.
No, I'm serious.
I don't like snakes.
I will protect you.
No, you tell me where the snakes are, because I like them.
The snakes are right here.
I want you to get a look at it.
Hey, yeah, you're right.
I'll stand right here.
No, no, wait a minute.
You'll understand how many there are.
Dude.
You see all the snakes right here?
Yeah.
You see them snakes right there?
Yeah.
They're my babies.
OK.
I care more about them snakes than I do a human life.
Just like that, man.
OK.
Them snakes mean more to me than any human food.
It's like grab the bolt gun.
Literally, bro.
That's right.
Enough for this snake.
Honestly, you know what's funny?
So my AC has been on the Fritz, right?
So I had a maintenance worker come in.
Yeah, yeah.
So a maintenance worker came in.
And he goes, as soon as he opens the door,
he's like, you got any big dogs?
I'm like, no.
But I got snakes, and I saw his face.
He was like, damn.
And I was like, in my head, I'm like, I said something worse,
didn't I?
That ticked dog guy.
Is that really Samson?
No, no, it's not.
It's not.
He's Kevin McCurley.
Oh, my God.
I hate this, man.
All right.
So this says, I'm going to be a marine biologist.
Nope, I breed ball pythons and clean their shit.
That was me.
I was going to be a marine biologist.
I wasn't.
Do you respect me more?
Actually, yeah.
You're going to be, uh, no, you were a musician.
I am a musician actively.
Why did he fucking say it like that?
You were, right?
I'm sorry.
That's my thing.
I was a prodigy.
I was a god.
I was good.
All right.
We have another one.
Says, this is when I start using the scientific names
for animals.
I speak in riddles.
You couldn't even understand.
Yeah, that's fucking teed.
That is me.
That's me.
That's you, OK?
Yeah, actually, Eric, like maybe two days ago,
I was like, oh, do we have any, uh, burgundika lieths?
And I was like, what is that?
And he's like, that's a rank to that.
And I'm like, no, what species is that?
I don't know what that is.
They're all burnt.
They're all brown.
So then he was like, oh, the stormy.
I was like, OK, there we go.
OK.
Now I understand what you're talking about.
Last one we got here.
A bird in the water and all this.
Yeah.
These lizards have a breathing technique
that will blow your mind.
They can stay in the water for a whopping 18 minutes.
When these lizards dive in, they exhale
and create a bubble on their stomachs.
They read the air inside expanding.
Is everything you're saying true?
I'm pretty sure Armin has those.
Oh, really?
I'm pretty sure he has those.
Yeah, Armin has a great video of them.
Yeah.
They're like literally dumping in in water
and like you see the thing in casa.
I think it's like you're making an oil.
I think it's from Jamaica.
Did they really get like silver like that?
Well, yeah, because it's the bubble.
Yeah, the bubble's covering them.
Super cool.
Super cool.
I don't know anything about anals.
Apparently, it's the only one that does that, too.
Yeah.
So I was like, hmm.
How many people are used over?
How many people do you think just grab anals now
and just stick them in water?
Because of that.
The brown ones.
The brown ones.
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