718 - Julien's Wife has Been Sleeping with his BF for Years and he Set it All Up
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Now, today I have on Julian.
Now, Julian's not sending in picks of his wife,
because I don't post picks of anyone unless they know.
Right? His wife has no idea that he's calling in and sharing her story.
Julian is a fake name, but he has a real story,
and his story is that he got his girl,
he calls her old-fashioned girlfriend who is now his wife
into having sex with his friend,
and she's been having sex with his best friend for the past four years.
He talks about how that came to be.
It started a long time ago when she admitted that she had had a threesome with you guys,
like a one-off thing, and he was like, what the fuck?
And he was super competitive, and he decided I want to have a threesome too,
and he was trying to hook her up with a girl,
and then she had a little thing with a girl.
It didn't really go anywhere,
but then he started talking about her hooking up with guys.
They tried to hook her up with this one guy,
it didn't work out but eventually she did have a one-night thing
with his best friend and a girl,
and he sat back and watched, and they all hooked up,
and he was really into her being with another guy.
He always thought the female-female threesome is what he was looking for,
but when he saw her with the guy, he was like,
that's what I want.
So fast-forward, it's his girl's birthday one day,
they're married, he decides to bring that guy over,
the friend, who she had already been with,
and offer him up again so that she could hook up with them,
and they've been hooking up ever since,
four years of her sleeping with his best friend,
and only his best friend.
They're not like lifestyle people,
they're not on any apps,
they're not looking for anyone else.
That guy does have a girlfriend who has no clue.
Okay, about what he's doing.
This is a very private thing,
there's no only fans or anything going on.
He does, though, love to tape.
He has hundreds, he said videos,
videos of her screwing the friend.
He does get involved,
but there's no crossing of swords or cleaning up
or anything like that.
He's not into any kind of guy-on-guy experience.
What this is about for him is seeing his girl have pleasure.
What's interesting about this episode to me
is the fact that he's really here to save
and this really helped his marriage.
I was like, there's no way you should get into this
if you have trouble going in.
I'm like, it worked for you because you were solid,
and he was like, no, we actually weren't really that solid,
and it really changed the game.
And that's what he's here to say,
that they used to fight a lot.
They had a lot of issues, a lot of trust issues,
and opening up their relationship in this specific way,
which is just with that one friend,
and that's it, it has really changed their relationship.
They never fight, they're better for it,
they're reclaiming sexes off the charts.
He's still totally into it.
He loves nothing more than watching those videos that he has,
and she loves it as well.
She's totally into it.
They're both super happy,
and he said she would also say
that this really helped their relationship.
So that's an interesting part of this episode in his story.
The whole thing, that was, of course, interesting.
So anyway, I'm going to get right to it
and be right back on with Julian.
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Hi, Julian. Welcome to the Strickly Anonymous Podcast.
How are you today?
Well, thank you so much for having me.
Thank you for coming on, Julian.
You're Julian in quotes, not really your name.
There's a couple of players in this story.
It's you, your wife, and your best friend, okay?
And you wanted to call your best friend Jay.
We'll probably just call him your best friend,
but basically the short story is that
you have a girl, is it your wife, right?
Your wife or your girlfriend?
My wife.
Your wife, you have a wife,
and you have been sharing her
with your best friend.
It's like a little secret thing you have going on
because your best friend is with a girl.
Or he has a girlfriend, right?
Not a wife, but he has a girlfriend.
And that girlfriend doesn't know that on the side,
four years, he has been hooking up with you
and your wife, correct?
Well, well, just my wife, yes.
Okay, not you, but I mean, you're there or something, right?
We'll get all the details from you.
Okay, cool.
All right, Julian, so let's get a little background.
You sound super young.
How old are you and your wife now?
We are in our 40s.
Okay, so you're in your 40s.
You're not really that young, but you're younger than me.
Thank you.
Okay, so 40s is way younger than 50s, you'll say.
That's good.
Enjoy it while it lasts, okay?
So you're in your 40s.
How long have you guys been married for?
Been married for 14 years now.
14 years, okay.
And so what's your deal?
Like when did you start sharing your wife
and how did that all come to be?
Well, it all started when we were still dating 14 years ago.
I always felt like before I met her,
I felt like I had experienced everything.
I never really knew anything about being a vanilla or anything like that.
But I dated a lot of women and slept with a lot of women.
So I felt like I was very experienced.
And then I met my wife, well, my girlfriend at the time.
And then she started telling me about her experiences
that made me feel a little uneasy
because I've always been a competitive person.
And so she shared with me that she's had a three-some before
with two males.
And for some strange reason, I couldn't get over that.
And my competitiveness wanted me to have two girls while with her.
So I said, you know what?
I've got to have a girl also along with, I mean, with my wife.
Because you're like sitting here thinking you're like the fucking player, right?
You've been there.
Exactly.
And comes this girl who's put like more of a player than you.
Yeah.
That's how it felt.
And I couldn't accept that notion.
So anyway, we, I know it's not going to be ideal, especially.
She's, I believe it or not.
She's actually the old-fashioned type very much into just one person.
But there was a time where she had a three-some with her boyfriend
and his best friend.
And that was the only time that she's had any experience like that.
It was a one-time thing.
And we didn't have a million questions.
Or am I the only one that asks a million questions when someone tells me something?
I mean, like here she is.
You're trying to say she's like really old-fashioned.
But yet she had a time where she fucked her boyfriend's best friend.
I mean, did you ask a lot of questions about this area?
Do you know how that happened?
Yes.
Well, her story is that her boyfriend then was in another country.
So she visited him one time at a, and they met at a hotel.
They spent a whole week in the hotel.
And one time her, the boyfriend's best friend came to visit also.
And they had a few drinks and, and then the boyfriend offered her to his best friend.
And they all just started kissing each other and then one thing led to another.
They switched, they had her one at a time.
So it wasn't together, but one after another, if that makes sense.
I guess.
And it was a one-time thing.
It was a one-time thing. Yes.
Right. So she told you you were a little competitive.
Did it, did it make you jealous?
Did it make you turned on?
Or none of the above just like you wanted to now have a threesome?
At that time, I think I was just being jealous.
Very competitive.
This cannot be.
And all your playing experience you had never had anything like that.
You had never done a threesome or anything.
I had an opportunity before in the past.
I had a girl and her, her girlfriend that wanted me.
But I only wanted that one girl.
So I asked the other girl if she can just wait outside of the room.
But I had an opportunity.
I just didn't take it.
Right. Now look it back.
You're like, oh, I could have fucked both of them.
Exactly.
I was too young.
I was naive and stupid.
Yeah.
Okay.
So she tells you about that guy.
Do you say to her right then in there?
Hey, listen, I, I want to now have a threesome.
And let's go find a girl.
I mean, what, what, where does this threesome with another woman?
What happens with that?
So I talked to her about it.
I said, is there any chance I can have a girl with you?
And she said, absolutely no.
That's not something I want to do or interested in doing.
So at that time, I started reading blogs.
I really made it my mission to see if there's any way possible way I can make this happen.
But you know, time goes on a year or two went by and we got married and it looked bleak.
So I'm like, this is never going to happen.
But I kept reading on some topics about it.
And then one of the blogs I read was, it's very much possible if you make it about her first.
And ideally, if you have a guy, if you share her with another man, it gets easier.
I believe it or not, it can potentially be done where you can flip it around and make it a threesome with two girls.
But it has to start with her first.
Oh, that's good.
I see what you don't see and that's blue.
That's simple.
There, this blue layer should be there.
Or on the back.
There is also one.
That's good.
I read that.
I just don't remember where, but I always kept that in my head.
And so I kept planting the seed.
Like, hey, how do you feel about sharing you with another guy?
I just have this fantasy where I think it would be hot.
And she brought into it, but not right away.
I had to slowly plant it, plant that seed in.
So I have this distant cousin who has a very hot wife.
And I was just wondering if it may be possible that this can be an opportunity for me to have two girls.
But at the same time, have her have two guys, too, somehow.
Anyway, so I find them to see if he's interested in swapping was.
And he was all for it, but he doesn't think that his wife would go for it.
So one time my wife and that guy met up at a club.
And that's when I asked him if there's any way you can just flirt with her and see where it goes.
And see if she gets flirting with you back.
And lo and behold, it worked.
And I asked that distant cousin if you can possibly start touching her at her leg and see if she reacts doesn't react.
And she reacted barely welcoming.
And so when I got back from the restroom, my wife started asking me, you okay, where'd you go?
And she started squeezing my hand, signaling me that something happened.
And I said, it's okay.
And I right then and there, I confessed to her that I wanted to share her with him.
And so we got in the car and started making out with her taking turns.
But then at some point, I said, no, I can't go through with this.
This is not right. So I stopped it.
I was feeling jealous.
I was feeling very uneasy, nervous.
And I know it's unethical.
So I just stopped it.
And but at the same time, there was this feeling of excitement that I couldn't explain.
And I wanted later, I wanted to explore that some more because I was so turned on.
I've never seen my wife in action outside from me and her, like from a third person point of view.
So that felt really, really exciting to me.
So years went by.
I kept planting the seed to her, like, look, whatever happened then really, really turned me on.
Is there any way we can either find a couple to swap with or maybe another male?
And she said, yeah, let's just do it.
So I got her to buy into it.
So one time when we met a girl first, they started kissing in the club.
And she said, would you be interested in making out with me and my husband?
And she said, yes.
And we became best friends.
But I wasn't feeling this girl very much because she's not my type.
I didn't, I didn't think she's that attractive.
So at first it was just going to be a piece of me, but at the very last minute, I called my best friend to join us.
And he met up with us.
And then we were making out and we were taking turns.
But then I stepped away and started watching the three of them go at it.
And at that point, that's where it changed my point of view from wanting a girl to just wanting to see my wife get plucked by another person, another guy.
But you were still, you saw her with the girl, right?
I mean, she was hooking up with a girl in that scenario.
She's looking at both the guy and the girl, but you realize at that point that you actually are more into her, hooking up with the guy.
Yes, because of all the action that was going on.
The girl to me wasn't all that.
So I didn't want to interact anymore.
I wasn't that turned on.
But when I'm watching my wife getting pleasure.
It's just an unexplainable thing.
I kept wanting more.
So.
But she went fully into the girl, though, too.
I mean, I thought she she had never, this was her first time with a girl. Was she into it?
She was, but they were just mainly kissing.
Nothing.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
So really, there was not she wasn't really hooking up with a girl. She was just making out with her.
Correct.
Okay.
Did the other girl fuck your front of the guy?
Yes, they ended up fucking each other too.
But my friend wanted my wife more.
So the girl and I just sat on the sidelines primarily just watch them go at it.
Right.
And so that went on.
And then it stopped for a while.
I'd say we took a year break from that until one time we were in town where my best friend lived and happened to be my wife's birthday.
And I invited my friend over and I said, hey, I want you to give my wife a present.
Yeah, but how do you wind up bringing that up to your best friend?
Like, hey, you want to fuck my wife?
Like, I mean, do you talk about it before?
You just invite him over to the hotel and spring it on him when he gets there?
How does that conversation go?
Well, my best friend and I would always just go back to the first time we, you know,
we switched with those girls or my wife and the girl.
Oh, that was the same friend with that girl back in the day.
So he had already fucked her wife.
I'm thinking this is a new friend.
This is the same friend.
Yeah.
That was that that day.
That's the same one that you saw fuck your wife the first time.
Okay, sorry.
I was confused.
Yeah.
So, yeah, he would always say how hot she is and he wants to have another go at her.
And so I just made it happen.
And since then, I probably have a collection of maybe a hundred videos.
Oh, my God.
But always with the same guy, right?
Always with the same guy.
Yeah.
But each time is is hotter than the next.
How come?
I don't know.
Well, I guess I would make them do different positions.
I would say go slower this time.
Show more.
More kissing here and there or show her pussy more.
Those things.
I would.
I would be like a director to a movie.
Yeah, it's like you're creating your own porn.
Exactly.
So if you want to take it further every time you can because you you're the one in control, right?
You're sort of creating these videos.
Does she like watching them too?
Oh, yeah.
We watch it together and we fuck like rabbits almost every night.
Can I just ask you though that I'm going to get back to all the sex you're having with your friend?
But is she good friends with this friend's girlfriend?
I mean, are you guys hanging around each other outside of the bedroom?
Not at all.
They know about each other, but they don't know that this is happening.
She doesn't know that this is happening.
No, I know she doesn't.
She doesn't know it's happening.
But are there ever times when you guys are just socially at the same place?
And you know, she's friends with the girl and that girl has no idea.
She's fucking a boy for it.
We've had dinners a couple of times before because we have the same circle of friends,
but she doesn't have an idea.
Right.
Now do you guys like, you know, after the first time ever wind up having any kind of discussion
about having any rules or regulations or is everything on the table?
So both my wife and I had the secondies.
Is there a female term for bisectomy?
Yeah.
I think it's tying the tubes.
Tying her tubes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I allow her to do anything she wants.
So you're not using condoms.
And do you like, do you know if he's screwing other people or he's monogamous in his relationship with that girl?
He's very much monogamous with that girl.
With that girl.
With the exception of my wife.
Oh my god.
Wait a second.
Wait a second.
Do you put those videos on only fans or anything like that or is it just private?
No, not at all.
It's just private.
Right.
And I know because I asked you before we got on the call, your wife has no idea you're sharing this story.
So we won't have pictures of your wife or anything like that.
You don't share this content.
I mean, this is really something that you guys are just doing for fun, very private on the DL.
Yeah.
No one else knows about this.
I'm assuming, right?
Except you, your wife, your friend and all of my listeners.
Yes.
And that's the part that kills me sometimes that no one knows because I can't talk to anybody.
And you love it.
Like you want to brag about it?
Is that how?
No, I don't want to brag about it.
But it is definitely.
If I could recommend it to any any couple that's struggling with their relationships,
opening it up like this, sometimes I think can help it tremendously.
It's hard to explain it, but I've never, never loved my wife even more so than I have since then.
And we communicate so well.
We, like I said, we fuck like rabbits every night and almost every night.
And I don't know.
It's just a feeling that I never thought I'd be and if this didn't happen.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
I mean, that's a bold statement.
And it's a statement.
I think that most guys who are not in this kind of relationship or who have never experienced it might be like no fucking way.
Like I can't believe that.
They could never imagine.
But maybe you even would say before you were involved in this relationship, you would feel the same way.
I think it's really hard to know or to believe that sharing the woman that you love with somebody else and watching her and pure ecstasy with someone other than you could not only be a fucking turn on but help a relationship.
People just think the opposite.
Oh, yeah.
And it's John is so close that we don't want to do anything apart from each other.
Other than allow her to go to a hotel with my friend.
And then come home the same night wouldn't in.
Fuck you.
Yeah.
Your claim is I guess.
Yeah, yeah, reclaiming.
Yeah.
She has a few times.
Yes.
She does.
So you allow her to go solo with him sometimes.
Yes.
And you like that.
It's not really allowing.
It's like you set that up.
Yes.
Correct.
And how long many years have you been guys been doing this kind of a range?
Four years now.
Four years.
Yes.
And you have a hundred and you videotape it every time now.
Are you ever getting involved?
I like to capture everything on video.
So I'm usually just behind the camera.
Yeah.
Now is it always like sort of hit it and quit it?
Do you feel like he's your wife has a relationship with him outside of the sex?
I mean, when I say I allow them, I mean, I'm not controlling it.
I'm confident enough with our relationship.
And so if they sex each other, it doesn't bother me at all.
Right.
Because you feel like you guys are emotionally invested in each other.
And that's what you guys share together.
It's not like you're, you want her to have feelings for him or this is a polyamorous thing or anything like that.
Not at all.
Right.
But the solo thing is cool with you because A, this is your best friend, right?
Yes.
And D, you feel like so close with your wife that you completely trust her.
Because listen, I've seen these kinds of situations go wrong.
But typically they go wrong when things are a mess in the relationship to begin with, right?
Sometimes someone does fall in love with someone and leaves.
But typically it's when the relationship was in disarray before.
And that's why I think like your statement early on might not be the best statement sometimes for everybody.
For you guys it might have worked because you might have been on solid ground to begin with when you opened up.
But like you had said, oh, I really recommend this for people if they're having problems, it brings you closer.
I don't necessarily believe that's always true.
I think sometimes if you go in and with a broken foundation to begin with, this can open the window of opportunity for somebody to find somebody else sometimes.
I don't know that it's always the best thing for that couple.
But I think it can work for couples who are very solid and then it could bring you closer.
I mean, you didn't go into this with issues or problems, right?
Well, we did argue a lot more before.
We did. Honestly, we had some problems.
Actually, we had some major fights really ever since this relationship.
Yes, it's like I can count how many times we fought in the year.
Probably two or and it's not even a fight.
It's just more like I'm misunderstanding.
But what do you mean?
So you're saying before this setup, you guys though used to fight all the time.
Well, little things because she can be very jealous.
But since then, since this situation came up, all that just went out the window.
We just started trusting each other more.
We love each other more and we communicate better than before.
I honestly think this changed our life.
We both believe this that this situation really improved our relationship at the highest degree.
This is why I could talk to a million people in the same kind of situation.
And each time get a different story, a different message, a different lesson.
But you're here to say that my whole statement just now is totally incorrect in your life experience,
which is interesting to me because I like to have all different kinds of stories.
Just when I think that, oh, if you go into something with a broken kind of relationship,
it's less likely to work.
But you did go in broken.
You guys did have a lot of issues and those fell by the wayside from opening it up.
So you're proving me wrong, which is interesting.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah, that's weird.
Well, not weird.
But I think it's great to show all sides of things.
And when all kinds of stories, because if it happened for you guys,
then that means that that could be true for somebody else.
When you say she was super jealous, I mean, you're married to her.
What was she jealous about?
Did she not trust you?
Yes, before she met me, I had a lot of female friends.
And I just had a lot of female friends hitting me up.
And so she was very jealous of that.
And since this situation came up, she told me that it doesn't bother anymore.
And even when I watch porn today, I would start with whatever is online.
At the end, I'll just go back to watching one of her videos.
And because that's what really gets me and excited and more than anything.
Yeah, more than anything.
And she sees it in action.
So that made her trust that made her trust you more.
And because she sees how into her you are.
Like she knows she's fulfilling you 1000% that you would have no need to go anywhere else.
No, because she's the one I really want to be with.
No, let me ask you this.
Were you someone to not be trusted?
I mean, were you the type of guy that would consider cheating on your girl?
I mean, is that?
No.
No, not really.
No.
Okay.
So you never cheated.
You never had cheated on her.
No.
But she was just, listen, I think a lot of women can feel jealousy because there's just like a lot of women walking around.
And sometimes guys, even if they're not the type to cheat, they turn their head.
A shiny object walks by and their eyes go.
And girls feel insecure about that a lot for no other reason.
Then it's like a thing that's put on them.
They're in competition with other women at all time for no reason.
What doesn't matter that you're not a cheater.
She could still feel a little distrust just because girls see where their guys eyes go.
But now, because you have this thing going down, are you still ever trying for that female female male thing?
Or is it, I think you said before that you don't even care about that now because you realize you like this the best.
She's very much open to it still with me because she knows it's still something I want to do, but it's not a priority.
I'd much rather see her in action, to be honest, that's to me, that's what gets me off.
But it's hard to find that girl anyway.
So for now, this is really something that I'm content with.
Right. And now, do you guys ever think about finding other guys or are you just happy with this one guy?
We love our setup right now because we know we're all safe.
So maybe we thought about it, but it's not something that we want to open up to.
But this right now, we're just content with the how it's set up and they don't want to mess it up.
Like it really works, but you're not looking to be like professionals with other people.
It really is just this specific dynamic that works for you guys.
Does he ever like talk about bringing his girl in?
I mean, do you know anything about his relationship with his girl?
His girl is much older, older than all three of us, to be honest, and is far from my type.
And so I would never, never, ever bring her in.
Oh my god, you're a little picky.
Look, you didn't like.
There's been so many women.
There's been so many.
Would you maybe, I don't know.
There's been so many women in this story that you're not into.
The girl at the club that she made out with.
And now this guy's girl, I mean, do you like girls?
I told my wife, it has to be someone closely that close look closely to you.
Right.
I mean, how hot is your wife?
Honestly, I think she's nine and a half, ten.
That's hot.
You're really talking real stats.
I mean, if she's a nine and a half or a ten, is she a nine and a half and a ten to anyone or just to you?
To me, but a lot of a lot of guys check her out.
Right.
She's super hot.
Right.
And like your friend's girl, what's not hot about her?
She's there like a five.
Well, what about your friend?
What is he?
My best friend.
Yeah, the guy you're she's banging.
Looks like me, but skinnier.
So I say he's like seven, I guess.
Okay.
Does he have a big dick?
Does he have a bigger dick than you?
Does that matter to you?
No, we're both.
I think we're equal.
You're equal.
Is there ever any kind of like crossing of swords?
No, not at all.
Not at all.
It's just no.
So your friend who's a seven, he, what is he just have this king for older women?
Like, why did he go for an older five?
If he's like in his 30s.
I've always asked him that.
I guess he just, he's content with his situation.
He doesn't want to get married.
But so he likes his dynamic right now.
And he's content with that.
Oh, okay.
Right.
He's at that age where a lot of girls if he was dating in his age range,
they'd want to get married.
And because she's older, has she been there done that?
Is she like a divorce woman?
Right.
Well, listen, girls, I mean, she got a hotter guy.
I mean, typically girls get uglier guys than them.
I mean, you got a nine and a half 10.
What are you?
Use your seven?
But you straight it up.
I think I was seven or six and a half.
I mean, it's very rare that people rate themselves really high.
I just had one guy that was like, oh, I'm like a fucking 12.
I was like, finally, somebody that thinks very highly of themselves.
But most people always, I think don't attend to give themselves such high marks.
So you're like a seven, but you got yourself a 10.
Yes.
Yeah.
Listen, I think a lot of times girls go for someone less than it.
It's interesting that the five met the 10.
But maybe, I don't know, you sound really picky when it comes to girls.
I wonder if like most people consider these other women that you weren't into.
Maybe other guys would find them more attractive than you.
You just sound picky.
I'm just very picky.
I've always been so when it comes to girls, you mean?
Absolutely.
You're attracted to.
Correct.
Really?
And yeah, I hate to say, but sometimes I can be vain.
Any little thing that I don't like would turn me off.
Yeah, that's interesting.
I don't mean to be, but that's just, it's been for me.
Right.
Yeah, I know guys like that.
I always wonder if those guys are like maybe have a little bit of more bisexual tendencies
and maybe they're into guys.
Have you ever thought that there is a part of you that is into?
Guys.
Not at all.
Even though you're not hook it up with him, you are watching him.
Fuck your wife.
Not at all, right?
When I watch the videos, I solely focus on my wife.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't even, I just want, I see her in action.
That's all I ever see.
And so that's what gets me.
Yeah.
No, I mean, listen, I think people explain it and it sounds like the same thing for you,
because you're making the videos.
It really is porn.
I mean, most guys say what they really get out of these experiences in the watching.
Like you said, it's not about the guy.
They're not watching the guy.
It's about seeing their wife as like their own porn star.
And that's your girl.
That's right.
It's like a porn star that you get to be with.
Not only can you watch her, she's yours.
Exactly.
Right.
And how does she feel about it?
If I was talking to her, would she say, yes, it's helped our relationship.
Yes, it's helped our sex life.
What do you, what does she think about the whole situation?
She would say exactly the same thing.
It helped our relationship, improved it, our trust, our communication.
And if we could do it over again, we'd do it again.
Right.
And does she ever have a desire for any kind of variety?
She's like you.
She feels very happy with this one guy.
She's happy with this situation.
And she doesn't need it.
And she's told me that several times, but I tell her that it's more for me.
I need it.
I want it.
Well, listen, I think women know that men are wired a little bit differently.
And a lot of times what I find with guys who are into this kind of thing as opposed to a girl on girl thing,
or wanting to go fuck girls and are happy with just watching their girl fuck another guy.
Like that's where they get all that variety from.
I mean, that's all they need.
They're not the type of guys that need to go elsewhere and go fuck a lot of girls.
Like a lot of guys are wired that way.
It's sort of fulfills that variety fantasy, right?
Because you could you have all these videos.
She's going out and doing that.
Plus you have her.
I mean, you really have the best of both worlds.
I do.
Like I said, I wish more people would open up to something like this because it's amazing.
The feeling is undescribable.
And the only time you got jealous was in the beginning with that first guy that weird fifth cousin of yours or whoever he was.
That was the only time I was super jealous at the same time excited.
It was those emotions was crazy at that time.
I was angry.
I was jealous.
But more so I was excited.
And that excitement is the one that driving force that made me say, I want more.
Right. And that's what made you not forget about it, right?
And I've heard that a lot.
It's like the same thing.
It's the jealousy and you could turn it into the turn on.
And do you share those videos with your friend or they just for you guys?
Once in a while, I'll shoot him a copy.
And is he into it?
He's very scared of getting caught.
I was going to say, I mean, that's the last thing you want out there.
I mean, this is the kind of thing you really want to keep under wraps, especially because he's in a relationship.
Yes, I know it's still unethical in that part.
And he's been my friend for the longest time.
And so I wouldn't do this with anyone else.
So that I trust when it just came out this way that.
I was a big dynamic.
I wish.
If she if the girlfriend was hotter.
I don't.
I think you're too picky.
I don't know.
You think that there's girls out there.
Somebody girls with there that you'd fuck on this.
I don't think there are.
Like you said, you're very picky.
You have you get turned off very easily.
Little things, right?
You're one of those.
I am.
Yeah.
I mean, thank God your wife showed up.
She has nothing to be jealous of.
She knew how fucking picky you are.
She's been jealous.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How did she pass all your tests?
Because she's a night and a half.
I don't know.
And she just loved my personality.
And she's got a very, very sexy body.
Very creamy skin.
Beautiful face.
I mean, more can a guy ask for it.
Her personality is amazing.
She's the only one that can bear with me.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So now tell me a little like a couple hot stories. I mean, you say you're always like pushing it here and there
What's like the hottest situation that you got going on now like your hottest video that you love to go back to?
Do you have any you could remember? Oh, yeah, just recently I
asked my friend
Come by and and they we just moved in
To a new place and and I asked my friend to
Fuck her all over the house and it was the hottest thing seeing her making out everywhere the kitchen
area
The floor everywhere
I mean have it all on video
kids
Yes, where are they are they older now? No, sometimes we'd ask them to stay with my in-laws
From time to time not all the time, but yeah, of course every now and then you get a little break
And that's when you play at the house
Exactly. Yep. Do you ever clean up?
No, okay, you're not into any of that kind of stuff. No cleaning up. Is he does he common side of her because there's no condoms being used, right?
Correct
So yeah, we've taken turns where I would go first and then him or vice versa
Do you have a preference? I want her pretty much right after so I guess that would be the preference of the ever
Right, and now do you ever tape you and her together since you're so into video or is it basically the videos you're watching?
I have but I don't like seeing myself on video
Okay, well, at least you're just as picky with yourself as you're with
See, I'm being fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're fair. Well, listen, I have to say and this is just like a life thing
Most people like critical people anyone you know that's like super critical
That's how they are for themselves times a hundred, right?
So the fact that you're picky with other people is always a sign that that's the way you are with yourself if not probably more so
So that's that's typically the way people roll so it makes sense that you would be picky of yourself as well
If you're picky of other people, do you know what I mean? That's where that's where it stems from right and typically like I said if you got that critical friend
You're like what a fucking painly ass. I could be a little critical and like I'm that way to myself like 10,000 times
You know, and you have to like sometimes feel sorry for those people because as picky as you are you're probably the most picky with yourself
I agree. Yeah, yeah, so that makes sense
So you don't really like to watch yourself so you have all those videos and she likes them too, right?
And you guys watch them together
Every night. Wow. Did you ever think listen because everyone's caching in on the whole only fans things?
Did you guys ever think about that for yourselves never never we would never do that that's
No, no way and she would never go for it
I would never go for it just because I just don't ever want to be public
Yeah, yeah, I get it. I don't respect that. It's a private thing
It's a fun thing and I think it changes the total dynamic
I think for some people it's like an added turn on if they happen to have like an exhibition aside and stuff
But I think for some people like you guys it's maybe it's what's more of a turn on because it's like your private thing
And it's very intimate and it's with a friend and it's very safe
The worst thing is that he's in a relationship and he's cheating but besides that you him and her all have a good relationship
It's the same person you've been with for a while. It obviously works
You does yeah, that's interesting and do they do they sex like you said you don't care if they do do they and she shows it to you
Is that how it works? Yeah, they do every night they do and I told her I like it because
It makes it it makes everyone comfortable and and and I want that I don't want any
Awkward moments between them. You know if they're not doing that. I think
The more they do that the more they
Keeps the fire burning right. It's it keeps them connected and you like that
She connected. Yeah, I do that a lot. Yeah, you want to feed that fire because you don't want that relationship to end anytime soon
No, because though she said she could live without it. You probably can't
Probably I think it would be hard. I think it would be really hard if you get used to something like this to go back
I think I hear a lot of times for the woman like they would be completely fine
But I think it's honest of you to say like maybe you couldn't right?
I mean if to go back to being just monogamous with her
I mean you do have hundreds of videos to go through so you could probably last a couple of years
But maybe after a while you'd be like let's do it again. Yeah
I
Just love seeing her in action. What can I say? It's it's a dicting
Yeah, I think of course right you're used to it at this point
I totally get that and I think it would be very hard to go back to where you were before
But it doesn't sound like you have any reason that you'd be going back. I mean everyone's pretty happy
I love the story too bad your wife doesn't know we can't have pictures of her
Okay on here because I don't like to post anything that's not
Non-consensual, but I will give you Julian access to my discord in case you want to go in there after your episode
Airs and talk to people
I bet you people would have a lot of questions for you considering
What you've had to say on this episode like I said I find the part of your story super interesting and that you did
Have problems before and it did bring you closer and you're here to say that and you stand on that and that's
I think maybe people will want to talk to you about that
So I'll give you free access to my discord to go in once your episode goes up
I can't like I said have pictures of your wife because she doesn't know that you're calling in
I will change your voice so she never knows that you called in
Sure, she doesn't really listen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect. She'll never know
I mean listen, we do I keep people very anonymous nobody you're like
It could be live anywhere in the world your voice is gonna be totally changed
You're gonna not gonna sound recognizable. We didn't use any names
No one's gonna know who this is at all. I make sure of that
So you're all good. I had a guy on recently who said some shit in his episodes
I just take a lot of stuff out. It's don't say where you live. Don't say like
Things that would really stand out for something and you did in anyway
So there's no way to trace us back to you or your wife
So your secret will be kept anonymous. Thank you so much for calling in and sharing your story Julian
You're welcome. Thank you, and I will send you the discord when your episode is gonna go off
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