678 - Mark and his Wife Started Swinging When They Met and They've Been Swinging Ever Since

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He's going to prove you wrong. Okay, mark and his girl have been swinging since the 80s. Okay, before most people were doing it. These are stories about how it went down back then before the internet are pretty funny. If you're young, you're going to be like, what the fuck world did you guys grow up in? I forgot. It was what snail mail was all about. But that's where we start when they first met. I mean, literally these two got married after three days. Okay. Of meeting each other. Love at first sight. They're still together in their 60s. And they're still fucking other people. Okay. Started swinging super young. He talks about how that started. What their rules were at first. Things progressed slowly. It was all up to his wife. He was cool with that. He loves his wife. Okay. They had, like I said, he married her after three days. But she was very into women. But she was also very jealous, which is interesting. So they took things very slow. So in the beginning, it was just then meeting up with couples. Her, hooking up with women. And the guy is just watching. And then it eventually progressed to her, allowing like the guys to kind of get involved with her while he watched. It was like the last thing that took place between them was him being allowed to be with the women too. Because she was super jealous. But eventually that came into play. They have been there, done that everything. Like I said, they started like very slowly. But once they got into it, now they totally, the hard swap. They do everything. They started to go to swingers clubs. Once the internet hit big. They went on all kinds of different websites. He talks about the websites that he went on to find like the swingers clubs and the swinger events in the house. Parties and all that kind of stuff that they started to go to. He ran a party, a swingers party. One time he said for New Year's Eve, they had a hundred couples show up. So that's 200 people all fucking at his house. They went once to the club desire that he talks about. He told me some interesting things about that nudist place called desire. No sex allowed there. I didn't know that. But mostly we talk about him and his wife. How he loves singer with other people. He talks a lot about her fucking crazy orgasms. Because she's really into sex. What's interesting to me is that she went through menopause. She's like in her 60s now, but she's still good to go. And we talk a little bit of that towards the end. But we get the whole story. How things evolved. All the kinds of swinging they did. He's super interesting. Like I said before, I love their story because this will prove anybody wrong who thinks that if you open up your marriage. You're doomed for failure. This guy fucking loves his wife. He's still a smitten with her since he was that first day he met her. It's so super obvious. They are each other's best friends. I think that's what it takes to be successful at swinging and opening it up. So I love to show a positive story to show that it can go right. Okay. You're going to love his story. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Mark. This is the strictly anonymous podcast. Hi, Mark. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm absolutely great, Kat. Thanks so much for having me. I'm very excited to be on your show. I love it. You found my show on YouTube, which is cool. I love YouTube. I mean, YouTube is hard for my show because they censor me a lot. And I don't know what to say. Oh my god. Half my episodes. I can't get monetized. I can't put some of them up there because they're too salacious. I love them. I have to add it. But I love YouTube because people comment over there when I like to have conversations about the episodes and I get into debate. So other people might think it's a fight, but I call it a debate. I love a good debate. So it's fun over there. Sure. Sure. Absolutely. Yeah. So listen, Mark, you're a swinger. I was excited to talk to you because I feel like I haven't talked to a swinger in a while. I don't know why. And you and your wife have been swinging for a really long time. Like one year after you were married, you guys started swinging. In 1983, we were married. I married her three days after I met her. Oh, I like that. That's interesting. And just absolutely love it for sight. And Marie is without a doubt the most beautiful woman I've ever met. And to the point where we used to go out and have a few drinks. And not that she did anything, but guys were just constantly hitting on her. I constantly find myself defending her. And I was like, this is enough enough. We're not going out drinking anymore. So, but the bottom line as far as we were concerned is we got into swinging because while she was very beautiful, she was also very insecure. I never got to why. But she didn't even like me looking at dirty magazines. And maybe in a 2023 year old, I won't care how many times we were going at it. You're going to pick up a hustler or a cherry or whatever the magazines were back in 1980, 30. And that's where things started. She had found my two or three magazines I had and just flew into a rage. And I was like, baby, no, I said, but you're still the most beautiful woman I've ever seen. And go, well, you're looking at the magazines. That's like, well, because I'm a guy. And that's who those guys do. Yeah. So after we calm things down, I came into the bedroom later that night. And she was going to the magazines, looking at them. And I was like, well, it's okay for you to look at them. Why can't I? And it was at that point she expressed to me her interest in women. Oh, okay. That was very bold of her back then, especially because back then people don't understand it was taboo, even for women to be into women. We can't think of, we can't imagine that nowadays. But that's how it was back in the 80s. Yeah. And immediately my mind started racing. I can figure something out. Let me figure something out. Yeah. And I will tell you how swinging was pre-internet days. I used to have to go into an adult bookstore. And by a magazine that in the back of the magazine, there was advertisements. Yeah. And you would have to mail a letter and some pictures to a postdoc. Oh, my God. Yes. They would forward the mail on to the person you were writing to. I think we had to put one or two dollar bills and to do that. And then a week later, you'd get a mail. And there'd be pictures or, and unfortunately sometimes they didn't have the picture back. They were just picture collectors. But that's how that's how swinging was back in 1983 before the internet. So it usually took about a month before you actually sat down with a couple. And then if they looked like their pictures, great sign wonderful. If they didn't, we usually just get up and leave. That was that was her thing is she didn't like the lack of integrity. And if you look like your pictures were five years or 50 pounds ago. She was like, sorry, this is going to work. Let's go. Right. Then the internet came and then just all hell broke loose. Okay, but wait. Let me just before you get to all hell broke loose. We have an hour. Okay. Let's slow it down a little bit. I'm sure you have a million stories because you've been swinging since the 80s, which might be the title of the market as wife have been swinging since the 80s. But what was that first time like? I mean, this is a woman, right? You just said your wife couldn't even handle the fact of you looking through a dirty magazine. And now you're hooking up with couples. Like how does it go down your first time? And how she feel and what it went, what happened? Well, we had to we had to talk about a lot of the things that she was interested in, which was was totally women. Back then, no single females really advertised in these magazines. So when we talked to couples and the letters I wrote were all very definitive. We're not looking to have another man be with my wife. And I'm not looking to be with you know, the other right. Okay. So really in the beginning, it was. It really didn't touch any of her buttons because she's just hooking up with women. And you guys are watching. Like that's all that's going down in the before the internet was like girl on girl action. And the guy's watching no swapping or anything like that. Well, the good. The guys were allowed to play with their own wife. Okay. But she didn't want to be touched by another guy. And frankly, I really had no interest in in other women. My wife was the best lover. Still to this day I've ever had. Yeah, that's awesome. Plus you're seeing it. I mean, there's the pleasure of also you're getting to see her with other women, right? Yes. And that's free. Live porn never bothered any guys. Yeah, with your wife, the girl you have and she's super hot. Now, how did she like, how was her first experience with women? Was she like, oh my god, I'm like, so into girls obviously, right? Because she kept continuing on. Well, just to touch on the fact that again, she was very paranoid about. About me wanting other women, even in magazines. That was because she was self conscious. I think a lot about her own self. And again, she was extraordinarily beautiful. We never really got into why she ever thought that because she's a girl. She wasn't. But if she felt acceptance at all from another woman, then it was game on. But if she didn't, then she would she would just be very sedate and kind of stay within herself. But the second a woman made any kind of overture that her that she was attracted to her, then you better get off the bed because she's going to be hands, arms, tongues, nipples going crazy with her. And that's exactly what happened. Luckily, we found a couple that felt the same as us. This was that wife's first time as well. But she was ultra positive that this is what she wanted to do. And soon as Marie felt the acceptance from that woman, like I said, me and the husband just both got off the bed. We sat in the chairs and we were both jerking off watching them go. And it was just a sight to behold. They had flowed very naturally for her. I'm sorry, very naturally for her. The woman took the lead and started kissing her. And then they just melted together and everything they wanted to do for first time they did. I didn't know how my wife was going to be as far as performing oral on the woman. But I soon found out that she took to that like a fish to water. And they just we had a spectacular time now that the lack of having to write back and forth to this couple was broken. I ended up seeing them two or three more times and each time got even a little bit more adventurous where they started playing with toys. I don't think they had a hotachies back then, but I know they had bullet vibrators. And they certainly had strap-ons which got got got used very well in all of our encounters. Oh, wow. So they were like fucking each other with their strap-ons and everything. Well, my wife did most of the fucking because for whatever reason she it was kind of odd to me, but you know, I don't have a pussy so I couldn't tell you. But she loves the feel of a cock, but Dildos for whatever reason didn't seem to have or not Dildos, but strap-ons didn't seem to have the same feel. They don't have the same feel. Yeah, of course, I had to take her word for that when we would talk yesterday. And she had no problem taking charge. She's, you know, she's a hundred percent Italian. So she could be a little domineering anyway. So if there was a strap on above, she was usually the one that was wielding it. Wow. Did any of her friends know what she was doing probably no way back then? Well, we lived very far from the house and I joined, we were in the military at the time. I joined the military. It was we got married. So we were way far away from home. And that was a little bit of cause for war. When I told her that we were going to be bailing pictures to people. She's not with my family finds out. I'm like, baby, we're in Tennessee. They're all in Newark and New York City. So the chance that it happened is going to be slim and none. Which is their concern? Listen up the summer. Unfortunately, it's almost over. So why waste the rest of it cooking when you could just sign up for Bacter. Bacter is America's number one health focused ready to eat meal kit delivery service. With Bacter, you're going to get delicious healthy meals without the hassle. No more meal planning or preparation or go to the store and getting like a hundred ingredients that you're never going to use again. Right? With Bacter, all you got to do is choose your meals. 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So now did you do a lot like so now all of this like all the action before we get to when the internet comes into play. Was it all just like her with women, right? You guys weren't doing any kind of swapping or anything like that. Yeah, no, not not at first. If she and she made all the rules again, I didn't mind. I didn't care. Like she's the best lover I ever had. So if she said, look, you sit in the thing and me and the couple are going to go at it. I would have been okay with that. But she didn't and then as times would would go on and we met with other couples. If there was a good looking guy after the after the encounter. She would say, I wouldn't mind if you touched me. I'm like, well, next time just if it's a good looking guy or a good looking dick. Take his hand and put it on your tip and see what happens. Oh, okay. And then did that what happened? That's what that's exactly that matter fact. The first time I took his hand and put it on his tip. I'm sorry on her tip. Yeah. And you could tell from her bones that that was just fine by her. Still no penetration. But if you got a woman that was eating her out and a guy who was in her mouth. I would just sit by and lay by her side and stroke her other breast or while she was having a great time. And then things slowly progressed because again, she was very jealous. So I really had to wait until she took my hand and put it on the other woman. I was horny enough or understanding enough that I wasn't into that woman. Yeah. Would ease her anxiety about her looks and still to this day 40 years later, she's still a beautiful woman. And I still to this day do not know why she was so nervous about that. So I just I just I just waited and waited and waited and then sooner or later she would take my hand and put it on her tip. Nothing. There's nothing I never met. Never met a tip. I didn't like that for sure. And then things would slowly progress from there and we always had a great time talking about things afterwards. We would we would masturbate with toys and we would tell each other stories and then it would start graduating to what is he what is he wanted to talk you. And she said again, she's very demotivated with her moments. That would that was it. That's how I knew I said well next time we can we can see and see what happens. And then the more times we met with couples that she was comfortable with. Then we started talking and I talked to the guy and say look, I don't know what's going to happen. I know she's going to be attracted to you or not. But if she is, are you cool with that? And he's looked at my wife's hell. Hell yeah. And then. But we always use condoms which was a little bit of a deterrent. But that was back in eighties when some some of the viruses that were floating around were really, really nasty. Yeah. We always agreed to the condoms and still to this day she still wants condoms. But then we just started evolving into a full swap couple girls would usually play to get things warmed up. And but it's like it and she never had a promise she was attracted to the guy. She would take his hand and put it on her. She would take her hand and put it on her ass and then he would respond in kind. I still had to wait until she gave me the okay. Which again, I was fine with I've always been fine with that. Like I said, she's one of her extraordinary lover. So. But that's how things evolved until we finally became a full swap couple. Wow. So do you remember that time that she allowed you? Like was it something that you talked about ahead of time that she was like, okay, you could now start having sex with women or did it just come up one day that she like pushed you into it? Like how did that first full swap go? Because she was really jealous of other women. Now she's allowing you to fuck another woman. I always waited until she gave me the signal that was okay. Yeah. Always. And then it would evolve to the point where after her third or fourth orgasm, she said, if you want to fuck her, you can. And I'm like, okay, having to be very careful that I didn't make more noise than I did with my. But by that point, I'm still to this day. And we haven't really been with a couple for about a year because she's had some medical issues. Yeah. So, but yeah, no. And that was it. But after that, it was it was game on. And so while I'm quite average in size, I noticed over the course of our swinging that she did have a preference for larger, larger build guys. And I really don't think I'm by your gay or in any way shape or fashion. But if I was with her and another couple and I would watch that guy grow to whatever length he did, look at his dick and go, yeah, Marie's going to have a good time with this. Absolutely going to have a good time. And fortunately, she usually gets. Yeah. Well, listen, I think unfortunately what happens is once a woman has a bigger one, she kind of, it's like you get used to it. And I think a lot of size queens are born that way. I, people always thought I was like the biggest size queen, but it's because one of my first long term boyfriends, actually the longest boyfriend I ever had is probably because you know, the hugest dick I've ever seen was a humongous. And so and I was with him for many years. And you get used to that. And it's really pleasurable. And you like it. But if you never had a really big one, but smaller one can be fine. I think that that's what that's how size queens are born. You have a big one. And then you're like, oh, fuck, that feels really good. I do agree and listen into some of your stories. I can see how that would evolve, but we never got to the point where me and her were alone in between meeting somebody where she said, you're not big enough. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Right. No, but you're always going to have fun with that. And you're going to like it because it's bigger, but that doesn't mean that you're not going to be turned on by a guy who's not humongous. It's all chemistry. Look at you guys have a chemistry since the minute you met. And that's never gone away. How many years later? So that comes everything. And I think that's what's always important to say. I think sometimes guys can't listen past the girl saying she loves a big dick. Even if she says, but I will take a regular one too, like your wife. They can't believe that's true, but both things could be true at the same time. Like you said, like your girl started to like guys that were bigger and you knew that. But it wasn't like when she came back to you. She wasn't like disappointed. No way. Sure. And I only say this because the amount of orgasm she had when she was with a guy who is of larger size. And when she gets with a little bit of a larger guy, it's porn star orgasms. None of this. None of this. We've actually, with one couple, we actually had a hotel management come and say, Hey, you guys got to keep it down. Oh my God. That's how loud she. That's how loud she was with the bigger deck. Yes, we watch porn together and she's all these ladies are fucking why aren't they having good orgasms? They will. I think I think you're, you're a little unusual in as far as that goes and how free you are to be able to enjoy yourself. And that that satisfied her in that regard. Yeah. So. So we just we've been doing it. Like I said, since and then the internet opened up. And then we just, then we started searching for swing clubs and things like that. We were in Kentucky at the time. So we used to head to Nashville. I think the swing club down there is now closed. But when we went there, it was an off premises club. If you met somebody, you couldn't do anything there. But then if she met a couple of she liked. Then we would get together and see what happens from there. We've had a few good experiences over time. Early comers and guys and the guys who couldn't get it up. And that that always bothered her because it immediately went back to. He's not attracted to me. Oh, right. Insecurities, which is never the case. Right. And it's not. And I really like how hard to believe that they were intimidated by how hot she was. I'm sorry. I, a guy can't help but get hard by any naked woman that sits in front of him. You know what I mean? I don't know. I have a lot of guy friends. So I know that it's never personal of a guy can't get it up. But a lot of girls take it that way. But I mean, you have to be, I don't know what you have to be for a guy to be horny for you when your clothes are on. And then they take it off. And they're like, oh, no, thanks. I can't even get it up. Okay. Maybe they're like, you take off your clothes. But you're not as perfect as they thought. They're still going to get fucking horny and fuck you. Okay. In a heart. I think so too. Yes. It got to the point as well that she started to enjoy meeting with couples who had not been with any before. She loved indoctrinating. Oh, she liked the virgins. She really had a pension for that. But still, she would never take charge of the situation. She always waited for that girl to show the, as soon as she showed she was attracted to her. Not a problem whatsoever. But she was, she was usually not the one to initiate anything. That was like her fear of rejection because she had a fear of rejection. Absolutely. Yeah. Unless the woman was so overpoweringly beautiful, such as my wife was, then she would take the lead. But she needed to feel or see a very quick response that what she was doing was, was good, was made her feel accepted. And then, then, like I said, she became an animal. And it was just, just came on. Right. Now, when you were doing the couples and doing all the swaps was your wife getting into dp's, dvp's all that crazy stuff spit roasting. I mean, because she's got two guys there, right? I mean, are you just doing swapping or is it like her with two guys or you with two girls? We never, she doesn't like anything to do with animals. Okay. What's so ever, every once in a while on my birthday or anniversary, she allowed me to take that. You take it in the right way. Okay. You must be doing something wrong on her birthday and your anniversary. Because if you didn't write, she'd be taking it all the time. You're just putting your dick in her, aren't you? You're just like. No, no, I will tell you that's the oddest part about it is because I would, by the time I would have my dick all the way in her ass, she was orgasm. Oh, okay. And I would pull out and put my dick in her again slowly because it's still her ass. Yeah. And she would have another orgasm and that would happen for five or seven minutes. Yeah. Six, seven, eight orgasms. But even when it was over, I was like, you came like a friggin' fountain. I know, but I still didn't enjoy it. So. Oh, okay. So she's got some weird block because she physically enjoyed it. And it was, it was, I wish I was. That's interesting. I just didn't allow us to film because that would have been movie worthy. But even when it was over, I was like, hey, you came five or six times. I know, but I just didn't enjoy. Yeah. Let me tell you, as somebody who, as a woman who can't love multiple vaginal orgasms, that the only time I ever came two times in a row is through anal. Because it is a totally different kind of experience. Does she know you're calling it weird? I wasn't. She doesn't want anything to do with it. She'll listen to the podcast. Okay. If you can tell me close to a date or I've been saving it. I'll let you know. Yeah. But she absolutely wants nothing to do with it. So I look up, my son, I'm going to tell you everything about this. We all know her. amin. Her, her tears being on the internet. She's very sedate in that matter. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. And even in all the years we've been swinging, she's never come up to me and said, hey, are we going to the swing club this week? And are we going to the house party this weekend? And so we say Saturday night, coming up. And she just said, I'll get the sitter. That was her. That was her telling me that she wanted to do this. That was your. Oh, that was code for I'm down. Yes. Yes, and she, and it's always made it a little bit challenging is do you want this or don't you want this but that that was as long as she said I'll get the babysitter and she always got the babysitter unless it was her time of the month or you know something along that line But we had a very healthy and still to this day for close to 60 years old we have a very healthy sex life And you're still swimming swinging to this day We are like I said she had some surgery which caused some scarring on her stomach Yeah, so she's been very worried about that and we hadn't event about a month and a half ago Which was the last time we've been with anybody in about guessing I'd say nine months and she said Look, let me let me fix this for you and I just went out and bought her a boostier Yeah, and it covered from below her breast to just put just above her pussy So you can really can't see anything and I took her over to the mirror I said Does this help and she said yeah actually it does I said then well, let's see what we can do Yeah, listen, there's a lot of really hot outfits that you could get her like body stockings And like stripper gear or it's like it was stuff that they wear to swingers parties There's like gear that you could get her that she's gonna be totally covered up But it's gonna like super hot and the crofters cut out so she could still have easy access But it also doesn't look like she's hiding anything it just looks like she's wearing like a super slitty hot outfit So look into that shit for her too But she really didn't need that stuff because she Had or still has an incredible body minus the scarring I know but what you don't understand because you keep saying you like you're confused why she's so hot Unfortunately for women it doesn't matter what you say or what you think about her It has to do with how she feels about herself. That's why they call it self-esteem. It's the same for you I mean our self-esteem comes from our self nobody else can change the way you feel no matter what they fucking say Okay, so you could tell her who cares about your fucking scar if she cares about it she cares about it And that's why what you did actually was very smart like you gave her something to hide that instead of trying to make her feel better Eventually maybe she'll get to the point where she could accept it and she could feel good about it But if it just happened it's gonna take time because women in our society We have a lot of shit put on us about our bodies our looks stuff that you and a man will never understand that So they never understand a woman's insecurities about the way she looks or anything you said it 15 times on this I can understand it because I'm a woman and any woman can understand it and guys need to know that It's just like it's put on women from the day they're fucking born how they look in their body is super important And if you're not fucking perfect all these fake people online with their fake filters and what used to be fake cameras They feel like they're not living up and that's just a thing that women live with And guys will never understand it and it's so nice as a man listen Besides questioning how she feels what you're saying is because you think she's like the fucking hottest thing So it's so great that you're there always telling her that because even though it doesn't change everything in her makes her feel super good about herself And women love that that's why women love those kinds of compliments and she's probably still horny for you Because you're that kind of guy even though like I said it doesn't change a woman's feeling the way she feels about herself It's going to help her feel hot with you it's gonna make her want to fuck you more when you're just like telling her she's the hottest piece of ass Like you do that's why you have that great chemistry with your girl because you're always reinforcing that And that's what women feel just like the way she is with those girls when she sees that they're into her she's down Like that's a women need that kind of thing as well. So I feel like I'm saying two things like it doesn't matter what you say But it does matter what you say. Do you know what I mean? Does it does and I do have a distinct advantage in every guard because she's got two besides her obvious beauty to me She has two things going for her that drive me absolutely nuts. I cannot kiss her without getting the media erection She just can't do this major that's major and that's that's been for us. I don't even like sharing her kiss with other people Because you can just watch Women especially melt into that kiss and it leaves no doubt of her attractiveness To her to to that person that woman and everyone's in a great while show kiss a guy which she's got to be really turned on to do But I don't like kissing other women because the way my wife kisses me if that makes any sense at all. Of course. Yeah sure And secondly her hands she has beautiful hands a little meaty But when she rakes her nails across your chest or around your balls, it's just holy fuck. It's just thank you. Here I am ready to go. Let's do this. So though that's that's a distinctive advantage I have as far as showing her physically that I'm still attracting to her And I've told her that a few times too which is really I'm like Rake your hand across my your fingertips across my balls and you'll see And that's how that's how that went. Yeah well listen like I said that's a reason why this kind of woman who's wired like her that has not only just the normal insecurity But it sounds like it's a little bit even more extreme for whatever reason you're like the perfect guy for her because you're so into her So and that's why she could feel secure with a guy like you if she was with a guy like a lot of regular guys that don't give those positive affirmations all the time And wouldn't be as open as you are and stuff she probably wouldn't have lasted with a guy like that because she needs that and you give it to her and that's fucking great But let's do that. Yeah and when we meet when we occasionally meet with single guys you know I'll take great pains We're on a couple of swinger pay sites and I'll line up the three sums and again I say hey we're going out Saturday night And now it's we don't need a sitter because our kids are growing and gone but she doesn't even ask people what's going on It's okay, okay, and if she wants we'll get on the swinger site together I'll show the picture of the guy we're going to meet and it's okay Saturday night's good for me But I always tell them in our emails if you want to see her at her most relaxed and her horniest pay attention to the compliments Exactly. Don't be it don't be an asshole don't be cocky don't be arrogant and you will have a great time will be head by all Exactly smart and that's for any woman she like I said her when she gets going her other than her kiss And her her her finger tip touch her orgasms I would love to make a video for just her orgasms so I can watch them by herself But she's a little on the camera side side but her orgasms are just the best thing I've ever seen Now let me ask you this since you're doing all the swinging and everything and you've been doing this for so long Did you ever like hook up with any of your friends or let anybody in on what you guys were doing? We have some friends who know what we've done because we've had to cancel some plans And they're like, why won't you want to go out with us? I'm like, I got a better Saturday night plan than what you had. I would think of myself So we've and I've had some some guys ask me you guys you guys pull around me We're never bored we always got something to do and then they'll come over to the house and they'll see new friends that are there to meet us I don't know these people why don't I know these people but no we aren't we are out we're not we don't brag to anybody I've got probably two guys that are from we're friends with as a couple that have a very good idea of what we're doing But no we never we don't we're not out about it We can't go out with you Saturday night because we're going to a house party Have you ever done swinger vacations went to any adults like what are those called swinger? Well, we went to a nudist resort 15 years ago I don't even know if it's still open but it's in Mexico called desire It's much much much more of a nudist place Oh interesting okay And it was and you want to talk about some beautiful people holy cow Oh really that's interesting Yes, but sex in the open is not only discouraged but it will get you thrown out Seriously you think that's the way that it is now to this day or was that maybe about how long ago was that? There's two thousand twenty three two thousand eleven Oh interesting So you're not so the rule is you could be naked out and about that's encouraged that's what the resume is You will be naked Oh They said they have no post positive unless it's less than dinner time then you have to be closed Okay, but do you have to be naked? Yes, yes, it's interesting it's a nudist place Yeah, oh I'm sorry do you have to be I don't know but I've never seen anybody not Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, unless it's dinner time And that's why that's only time you have to wear clothes Correct, but you cannot have sex in public Oh, that's a rule That's a hard fast rule and again it will get you thrown out Just just that simple somebody come up here and I watch two couples do it They were having sex they had some beautiful beds set up on the beach So you could go into water naked come back and lounge around and two couples decided to go at it And the next thing you know when we're in our room changing for dinner These people are being escorted off the property Wow now when you're walking down the hallways and that in that historic Do you just hear a lot of fucking going on? Absolutely And we did a lot too but we did it behind closed doors Right That's just the way it is but in and we didn't mind because we're not a really A warrior or an exhibition couple anyways Unless it got to some orgy type thing but that was but that was Been back back we still talked to a couple a couple couples from our from our time there But yes, sex in public was absolutely not like frowned upon It was taboo it was you're gone get out Right and now tell me about some of your orgies Did those go down like at swinger clubs? Well I was kind of wondering why I don't hear more about it on your on your podcast Because swinger clubs are great find wonderful But there's a lot of swinger clubs that don't really encourage on premises activity But we met we Orgy we've been to has been at a house party Oh okay so at the swingers parties like the swingers house parties different Yes and there's there's many many many house parties here in Florida I don't care what city you go to but there's always a house party going on And we find them on their swingers sites Well, why don't you tell some people tell the people the sites that you use that's always super helpful We use I don't know what it stands for but it's there's sdc for on And we're also on SLS which is swinger lifestyle.com Right and that really is the place I think people always say that's not really a hookup site That's a place where you're going to network and find where events are and stuff like that That's the perfect place Absolutely Yes and that's and like I said I don't care if we want to go away for a weekend to Daytona I'll just switch our location from where we are to Daytona and then just click on the house parties And there they are And what's the demographics like what do you see at these house parties and what's going down And tell me some orgy stories Well the older we get the more we see that their couples usually in their late 20s to late 40s But there are but we if you want to you can always find a house part of the caters to our age group which is 45 to 65 So and we actually ran a swing house party for a couple of years So it's and it when I tell you I posted on SDC and SLS the very first week and we started parties We had 50 couples in our house no problem Wow and did you vet them at all or was it like whoever responded you just allowed them to come over Well we had them been on SDC and in quite some time but on SLS it has a beautiful feature that you can certify a couple So the very first thing we looked at is this couple certified And then we read the certification beautiful couple friendly open honest great and bad you know what How do people get how do people get certified? Okay you and your boyfriend go to go to a house party me and Marie go to a house party we have a good time Oh cool what's your SLS name blah blah blah I tell you mine when I get home I look you up on SLS and you profile and there's a place on there where you can click to certify somebody Oh I like that so you could give it you know it's like a yell preview It's a bit it keeps away the frauds it keeps away the pick collectors it keeps away it's my fact We won't need anybody who's not certified now Smart for sure that's it that's like a I've never heard of anyone talk about that before that's interesting And I'd like I said I was I was surprised to hear that I can't remember if sdc has that or not but I know SLS does and that's just open up a whole world I mean you don't got to worry about fake frauds and phonies and pick collectors and single guys acting as a couple And then when you beat him because all of my wife was sick tonight but how about we go ahead Oh hi exact Peter your new favorite pop culture guru serving you the hottest tea three times a week From the latest news on the real housewives deep dives into celebrity legal scandals unfiltered combos with your favorite stars And of course the latest from Vanderpumpland I've got you covered and new episodes of the podcast are now available in video on Spotify And they don't just let anybody do video but this platinum blood has won them over So if you want the latest news from the ultimate tea spilling professional tune in to no filter with Zach Peter That's no filter with Zach Peter on your favorite podcast app now Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not dealing with any riffraff because people they've been certified I think that's super smart And it we it weeds it all out for you so when you started to do your parties or that one party that you ran That's where you always went and you just invited certified couples Absolutely absolutely and it did just it was it was a dream it was a dream because we kept our parties living it to I think our age group was 45 to 65 Mm-hmm Because because we've been to some hard house parties when where you got 20 years old and they'll act like jerks They'll they'll make messes they'll not clean Just just a drama. Oh my god I couldn't believe some of the drama we saw some of the younger parties. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so Get you when you when you stuck with the older couples mature Settled know what they want there to have a good time no drama Then then you would have a good time we we did some clean ups after the parties where the only thing we found was maybe a condom Stuck on the side of the bed. Okay, no big deal put my rubber gloves on clean it up, but we went to a room After a 30-year-old couple and whatever couple they were in and there'd be fucking putting on the wall Sheets torn actually excrement at one time and so we just kept it to our age range The age range we were targeting and we had no problems with And so what's the largest party you had the 50 couples a hundred people in your house fucking everybody? On Christmas or New Year's Eve party we had 75 couples No, you have a big house I guess or back It wasn't it was a big house. Yeah, it was it was a big house nice pool nice outside pool A slide and I think I had seven or eight acres and my security when you pulled up my security had a list Here but your name. I'm sorry. You're not on the list but but but but turn around and have a good night. Sorry about that. It's so funny that I'm sorry, but I'm so glad that I'm on these calls getting shit out of people Because I just feel like you're just blowing through all these things look at this information. You didn't get to you weren't even going to tell me about this New Year's Eve party You throw parties with a hundred people you have security there. I mean you have so much going on here Well, the security was really just a couple of couple of couples No, you're supposed to have that I think that that's it. I'm just saying well, there's so much you've been you know what it is You've been doing this for so long you have so many experiences, right? It's probably all just be it's just and it's just like a way of life for you Right, but you don't even probably remember half this stuff. Well not so much anymore. Like I said, we we haven't met for couples for a while, but yeah, it was the vast majority of 25 years We were out almost every weekend every month. So tell me about that New Year's Eve party though you get who were your security? Were they outside security or they were couples you said? No, they were couples. I mean I spent my first seven years in military and law enforcement Right, and then it became a pilot. So I knew what to ask and how to do it So I would find a couple of couples who are either firemen or police who had a nice strong command presence A little bit larger fellas and you'd you'd man the gate for the first hour you'd demand the gate for the next hour you'd man the gate for the next hour And at 11 o'clock from 8 to 11 we let couples in and then we close the gate no more couples could commit Wow, or you weren't getting through my gate right right and then then that was we we we we asked for a donation to the cover the cost for the food and the The mixers and to clean up and they they just did we just didn't ask them for a donation and they were fine with that. You had a hundred couples now when you guys have parties like that one now that you guys play and you're still playing and stuff Is are you always together when you play or can she go off and like fuck whoever she wants and you two like how do you guys roll in a situation like that? I I have no problem if she were to go she likes to be together. I don't I don't really my heart or heart. I don't know if it's because of the Delacca ego she has for the body positivity I would want her to have but she prefers that we're the same We're the same room couple right okay. Now there has been a couple circumstances when we met with couples that I'll get remember I told you before she liked newer couples and Dr. Nathan. Yeah. Yeah. If if the woman was afraid or didn't want they were like we were where it's a I think they called soft swap where women stay with women to play with women and guys stay with their own mate. If a woman was particularly shy then she would go in the room with the female alone while the guys were outside ears pressed the door trying to listen to what's going on but you know that's that that was a disadvantage for me the advantage was she would tell me the story later on about what they did and I would just get I was quite quite happy with that right so though she only would play with women so low. Yes yes she's never she's never indicated an interest in being with anybody without me there now all of our experiences haven't been great so we've we've met we've had some situations where guys there should have been close she and she was always afraid she was going to run into that in the bedroom so those guys don't even get even close to the bedroom right no no no no and and if you're if you're in our party and you're you were in our party never happened to be at least you know I think this kind of information is helpful to couples too because it gives but it's like etiquette what is that etiquette how do you get that couple to feel comfortable with you I think they most people tell me you always go through the woman she's the one that makes the rules right always yeah always and you for most that usually usually turns out good so what are the things that people do that turns out bad what are the things that you would say hey if you want to get into this world and you want to be a swing or like what are the things that you should not do be pushy first and foremost make sure your pictures and this is for couples who aren't certified like I said we had a great great advantage being able to do that look like your pictures yeah okay don't think they don't take pictures 10 years ago or 50 pounds ago secondly would be hygiene and thirdly I would say let the woman take the lead which more often than not that's what that's what we found is some husbands might pressure the woman into doing this and she really wasn't ready or they hadn't talked about it enough and the guy would three minutes after sitting down the guy would say oh we're ready to go to the bedroom how you and my wife would look at the woman and just see the anxiousness in her eyes and she'd be like now I don't think we're ready she put it out she put it on her I don't think we're ready and if she was really attracted to that woman she'd make it a point to talk to that woman before the night and go hey you okay is there something really into a couple of times she heard no that really I'm doing this because my husband wants to do it no so that was just her her way of freeing the woman up having to do something she didn't want to do right because she's a woman and she could get where that girl's coming from right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and and I will tell you we've been fooled a couple times because we'd read search certifications on some couples and it would and we never look for a while he's dick was big or close it was juicy or a tits were wonderful we look for how do they act in a social scenario and sometimes they'd have certain say beautiful couple solid party talk for a little while look for to play with them that's a certification but we got fooled and you'd have some couples that come to the party and then you kind of weren't like your certification so after the party we just remove them from the group you know we don't have time do you guys have a type where you just like into a vibe of people dark-haired women for my wife let's look at this dark-haired woman yeah I like him with a pulse and women don't understand that's how guys are your wife doesn't understand that and before if we were to meet somebody the party how you interact with her determines her type but she's never really had a huge thing for blondes but that's just what I see but if there's a blonde who's who comes up to my wife and says you're the most beautiful girl you've ever seen that's about to be her type really really so right and does she have a body type when it comes to women is she like a tit girl and ask girl tips absolutely tips and clean shaving right as she doesn't want to see landing strips or or anything down there so paint the picture of your wife since you're not going to be able to send me anonymous picks of her from my patreon because you said she doesn't like her picks out there or anything like paint her picture what does she look like in what's her body like that's a five foot two hundred and probably 27 28 pounds three three daughters and her tits are still like a 17-year-olds she's probably not got the same shape she had when she was 21 but her butt is still very firm she's got nice Italian ass stays clean shave and all the time a loves her pennies and loves her manicures what she would be a huge turn off for her if you got a stubbly finger tips or I don't care what happen you're not going near her yeah yeah yeah what you like I find it attracted as well but listen she's not asking for anything that she's not bringing to the table she's yeah I mean that's what she's coming to the table with she's well taken care of she take the right she wants the same absolutely I'd like print and and spoil her as much as I can with anything she wants to do with the beauty want to go to all things spend 200 bucks go to all things spend 200 bucks right I go get a full body massage and have a spot day just put it on the cars let me ask you this because so many women go through menopause and I have so many guys calling in and even women as well they lose their sex drive that happens to women now I've heard and I think it's very true if you don't lose it you use it so if you do so the opposite is true right if you keep using it you don't lose it so I'm wondering with your wife because you guys are always swinging your highly sexualized beings you're in this world you're fucking all the time you're saying you're doing it like every weekend like when she got to that point where she was going through menopause did she ever lose it or did she never lose it like most people do what happened to her she never she never lost it the only thing I can say is she was never she was always aggressive with me it'd be seven o'clock at night and say eat a good dinner because you're going to need the energy and bet tonight but that that slowed down she would wait for me to make the the customary first move even as a couple yeah yeah as far as wetness or a rouse ability no she I've been very lucky and as far as that goes I think it's because like you guys were just always having sacks and you just never took that break and I think what happens to couples listen you think about you guys as a couple compared to a vanilla couple a vanilla couple are only fucking each other right so 20 30 40 years later they're not doing it all the time they're not doing it every even probably every weekend right maybe once a week if they're lucky and then the woman starts to go through menopause looks like a snowball effect it's not just one thing it's not just oh you lose your hormones and you don't have it it's like most women at this point aren't banging their husbands anyway on a regular basis because they've been with them so long right they don't have that connection the chemistry isn't there anyway so then they lose their hormones so then they're so far away from where they were that they totally lose it right you guys were so different because you guys have not only been fucking each other but even fucking other people since the dawn of time right so you never lost that spark you never slowed down so even though she lost all her hormones like everybody else she's still getting as wet she's still having these orgasms that you're bragging about so it really does show that it's not just the loss of hormones it's I think like I said it's everything that goes together but because you guys are so specific and live this alternative lifestyle she had a very different menopausal experience absolutely and I don't know if that's tied to diet I'm not that familiar with with that I also know that some women after after menopause become much more freer in bed because there's no risk of pregnancy there there there 45 65 or 65 depending on what age they get them yeah it frees them yeah yeah yeah absolutely I've heard that too yeah 100 percent I just don't think that that's the norm you know what I mean but I find those kinds of stories are always super helpful for women that have her or maybe not at menopause yet and afraid they're gonna go through it or women that are right there these are it doesn't necessarily have to happen where you lose all feeling and lose all interest in sex so I think that that's always like great like your wife is like such a great example because she's not on hormone replacement right like she never took any hormones no never take a thing yeah yeah yeah see and it is you know we've got yeah we've got some vanilla friends who you know and my wife will also talk with them about when when they're going through menopause and they'll they'll just tell us right in further husbands now he's gonna stay the fuck away from me don't come to me don't come to me yeah really really wow yeah you know your wife's lucky and when I was going through Perry menopause I was like oh my god I was like the Perry fucking menopause and I'm like oh that's a really good book title for a book so then I decided to write a book and I got a doctor to write it with me I never I don't know the doctor was such a pain in the ass cock blocked every publisher to publish it but anyway my whole point was that when I talked to her and she started to really give me all the reasons for it she talked a lot about like it's not just the hormones you put everything together it's the whole fucking shebang right it's and it's a recipe for disaster in that like I said that woman that vanilla couple isn't banging her husband anymore anyway and it is so if you don't use it you lose it but if you do you're good to go so it's a very different experience for you guys so I do think you know your wife doesn't didn't have that but she's that example for with the doctor was kind of telling me it's not just the hormones like if you changed all those things you were having sex like you guys were and you still were really into your husband like a lot of women aren't when they get into their 50s they can't fucking stand their husbands they've been with them since the dawn of time and they're like fucking get away right do you know what I mean it's all of that it's everything together right sure yeah yeah I've been lucky and in every guys that I never really had that evidence show itself no I love you I love you guys as a couple I love how into your fucking girl you are like I said I think she was very lucky to find you because she had all these insecurities and all you ever did was make her feel fucking good about herself and not for any other reason then you just are fucking into her like it's great everybody wants that guy you guys have a great relationship I love your story you've been swinging since the eighties I mean that's not a lot of people weren't doing that back then especially you people in their 20s so I think you were very bold to do that at such early at such an early age when the fact that you kept with it even through kids and all that kind of stuff I've heard every kind of story out there and a lot of times these stories don't end with we're still doing this at 60 I know she had a medical thing whatever that happens but the fact that you're still as enthusiastic about her you still are going out you're still doing what you're doing since you're in your 20s is the great story it's a great example of what it can be for people well it is and again I'm lucky but it also looks notwithstanding they fade over time desire spade over time I mean we're not going to edit every day like we did over a young girl yeah it starts with her being my best friend yeah and me being her and there's not a thing she can tell me tomorrow hey I want to fuck a transsexuals and I'd be okay let's or hey I want to start a business she can tell me anything and I've got a small business going on that I every once in a while I had some risk to take and I've got friends who say oh this is what you need to do this is what you need to do no no no let me go talk to Marie Marie will tell me what to do so she'll tell because she's always got my best interest in hearts it hurts and I certainly always have hers so that's it it really does start with a friendship yeah and that's also why this isn't a swingers gone wrong story I mean you guys have a very solid foundation and I love to show every kind of story I like to show a swingers gone wrong story because I think it that's super helpful to show people what not to do but I also love to show a story like this that shows that listen if you have a really solid foundation and you really have intense love for each other you can go fuck other people it doesn't mean you don't love each other I can't tell you how many times I see comments like oh no man would let his wife fuck someone else if he loved or their marriage is going to go to shit because they're fucking other people and I'm like oh my god I've had so many people on my show that would prove you wrong and typically the people that are successful are like you they just love each other they're like best fucking friends like nothing's changing that so who cares if you fuck other people it has nothing to do with your emotional connection which is rock solid and that's what you need and that's what's super important and that's what makes you guys successful absolutely yeah I love it I love your story I love your wife I wish you would come on but I totally respect the fact that she's alive and won't let her listen to this episode give her a shout out she's a she's a menopause survivor I don't know she should be like she's like an Olympic or menopausal woman I don't know she she's a good example for women that they don't have to have such a hard time with it but anyway thanks so much for calling in Mark and sharing your story loved it I appreciate that and if you ever if you ever want to hear anything else from us just send me an email I would be glad to talk to you I'm very very flattered you have me on your show I love it let's try and get your wife maybe if she listens to it and 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