683 - Adrianne and her Boyfriend F*** Other People
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and was like, listen, me and my guy are swingers.
She's the word swingers.
And we thought it would be really fun to come
and you show and talk about all of our experiences.
They had wrote them down that she said
and she had a list of them and there was like 40 of them.
And I was like, that's a specific number, right?
It turns out she's only been dating her guy
for like two years.
So you guys really must have got to it really early on
and they did.
They started out as booty calls.
They were just the fucking each other
and fucking other people.
And then they just continued to fuck other people
but they started to fuck other people in front of each other
and it turns out they're into that.
And they're into a lot of other things.
They've been to Swinger's Club.
He hides in the closet, watches her fuck other guys.
He really likes that.
She doesn't mind seeing him fuck other women
but there's some stuff.
There's a little jealousy there.
We get into that and why it's there
and why it's not there sometimes.
We talk about how they prefer to swing.
They do full swaps, what they've done.
She tells a lot of specific stories.
She's done double penetration.
He's hidden the closet.
There's cock cages involved.
A lot of interesting things she talks about
how they went from being fuck buddies
to getting in a relationship to being swingers
and it happens early on.
They've just always had an open relationship
and she talks about how it works and why it works
and she has a little jealousy
when it comes to watching fuck other people.
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Hey, Adrienne, welcome to the Strickly None of us podcast.
How are you today?
I'm good, how are you doing?
I'm good.
So you wrote in and told me that you,
I mean, the gist of it was you and your boyfriend,
write your boyfriend at your husband.
Have been, yeah, have been listening to my show for a while
and you guys were swingers.
You used the word swingers and you said that you guys
recently wrote down all of your experiences
and you felt you wanted to come on and share them.
Now, I think you used the word 40, right?
Was it 40 experiences that you've had?
Yeah, I think collectively there were 40 experiences
if we added them all up, yeah.
Right, so my first question is,
how long have you guys been dating?
So you've been dating just over two years.
We just had two years on this December 8th, so two years.
And how old are you guys?
He's 46 and I'm 40.
Now, had you guys been quote unquote swingers before
you guys got together?
Not swingers necessarily.
We both had experiences in the past,
but not swinger type experiences.
I had been with another girl before
and kissed another girl in college
and had same room sex with my boyfriend
and then his best friend and his girl.
I had actually had a couple of times where my ex,
my ex husband and I actually had a couple of times
where we had a threesome with another girl.
So just a couple of times that we didn't have a swinger lifestyle
or anything else I do now.
And then my boyfriend's experiences
he just kind of has him and his best friend,
I think, for with another girl at one point.
But I think really that's all the experience
which he's really had before me
as far as I understand it.
Right, so now, but if I'm doing the math, right?
And you guys have only been dating for two years
and you've had 40 experiences already,
it seems you guys got into the swinger lifestyle
really early on.
I mean, did you meet each other and let each other know
how did the whole conversation come up
that you both realize that this is something
you're both into?
Well, we kind of started a relationship off
being very honest, which is something
that neither of us have really had in the past.
We met on plenty of fish,
just kind of a hook up kind of a deal
and I was really sleeping around.
I was and I was having sex with lots of men.
I was really late at worst.
And so, it was my boyfriend at the time.
My boyfriend now, he was recently divorced as well.
Okay.
And so, we were both very honest,
we were both sleeping around.
We were both dating a lot of people, if you will.
And so, when we met up for the first time,
I basically told him I was going to be a surfing,
we hit it off and that was going to be staying
that I had at his house and I kind of laid it all
on the line for him.
I'm not going home drunk.
I'm staying in over and I'll totally be fucking you.
And I just kind of laid it on the line for him.
And he was kind of like, how could I say no?
I'm right on.
So, first night, we got together and we fucked
and it was great and whatever.
And then we just hit it off from the not out
and then it was weird because I was still sleeping around.
And he was still sleeping.
And for him, it was really hot for him
that I was sleeping around.
And then sometimes he would even need to come over
after I fucked a guy and then fuck him too.
Right after he thought it was hot.
Oh, he's fucking me right after this guy just did me
or whatever.
Yeah.
And did it turn you on too?
Yeah.
And I am really, I don't know,
I'm a hypersexual kind of a girl.
I have to really high sex right more than most men,
I think he is.
Yeah.
And I've been known to be called the man in the relationship
because I just wanted all the time.
And so it worked for us.
And so, so yeah, that's kind of how we got started
and then really our first experience.
I invited over one of my co-workers
and she was really young.
She was only 23 years old.
And so she was super hard and really fun wanted to hang out
whatever and drink a little, smoke a little
and we got into the hot tub that night
and then she and I started kissing
and then I think I pushed her over to him.
Yeah.
And they started kissing in the hot tub
and then kind of we all started doing it
and then she and I went down on him.
We didn't go all the way with her.
We, and it sounds bad.
It sounds we did, but we didn't.
So he didn't penetrate her.
But, but we did everything else.
Did you fool around with her?
Yeah, I fool around with her.
We both licked her.
She and him licked me.
He fucked me, but he didn't penetrate her.
But we both went down on him.
And I think that's really all that happened.
Okay, so that's pretty much everything except she didn't
fuck your husband, your boyfriend.
Exactly.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, that was that one and then I mean,
I think then it was just we,
I don't know, he kind of
knew my boyfriend kind of knows or knew more about
I guess the lifestyle, if you will,
of swingers.
He kind of just kind of, you know, dismissal and said,
hey, there's this club and people.
He's never been there before.
He had never been there before, but he had heard about it.
He had heard that this, that or the other thing might happen
there where, as we learn more as we had gone there,
we had been there.
We've been there four times.
Okay.
And so I think one of the times we were there,
we played with two other girls and this older gentleman.
And one of the girls had never like,
pussy before inside taught her how to like pussy.
And then the second time we were there,
we swapped with this other couple.
There's a lot of people around watching naked,
fucking doing whatever around you in this club.
And so we got down with this other couple with them.
So, but let me just ask you some questions,
because you have this first experience with this girl.
You guys are sleeping around in the beginning, right?
When do you realize that you actually
start to have romantic feelings for each other
and that you're gonna date?
Do you ever stop sleeping with other people?
It was probably a two months into dating each other
that we really started becoming exclusive.
I'm not exclusive, obviously, because.
No, but you went from it just booty call
to you guys actually really liked each other, right?
That's a whole different level.
Virtually every day together.
And yeah, and it was definitely,
and that specific Christmas,
because it was around the holidays,
that specific Christmas,
we specifically exchanged gifts with just one another.
Yeah.
And yeah, and it became very much a relationship at that time.
I remember we did go to to Las Vegas
that following January,
and we were out at a very fancy restaurant
at Gordon Ramsay's restaurant.
Very upscale for us and having a nice dinner
and a couple of his booty call girls
were texting during our dinner.
And I was getting kind of pissed
because we had just started dating exclusively.
Yeah.
And so at that dinner in January
was when he deleted those other women
from his phone specifically.
So it was, so we've been, yeah,
it's been exclusive for exclusive
other than the people we know about for two years.
Right.
I think it was being honest with you.
I mean, that's what's kind of cool about your relationship
because you were being honest about sleeping
with other people right from the get go.
That while you're sitting there and big as he's not pretending
that he's texting somebody else,
so he's honest with you about who's texting, right?
And then you're honest that pissed you off
and then he's honest that he deleted it.
Yeah, and we got into a couple of fights about it
because he wasn't honest from the beginning.
Oh, okay.
He was saying he was being honest,
but then he wasn't necessarily being honest.
They would keep texting.
And then he would just not tell me to avoid a fight.
Yeah.
And where then it made a bigger fight
because you should have just fucking told me.
Yeah, yeah, because now it's a trust thing.
Yeah.
If we're being real about it, be real about it.
You know what I mean?
And so then he deleted them or whatever.
And since then a couple of them have tried to reach out
over the year, over the past two years.
Yeah.
And he's blocked them on their phone.
And they kind of reach him through Facebook
or this or that or the other thing.
And he has been honest with me a few times
about them trying to.
That's still something that I question sometimes.
Are we being honest about the people from the past?
But I don't think whatsoever he's doing anything
behind my back.
If that makes sense, do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I mean, what he'd be dumb to,
I mean, it's you let him fuck other women, right?
I mean, you guys, let's get back to all the stuff
that you guys experience together.
I think you would be dumb too.
Yeah, right?
I mean, come on.
And you were being super honest with him
because he actually enjoyed the fact that
when you would tell him that you were other people.
Do you enjoy knowing that he's with other women
or watching him with other women as well?
Just like he enjoys seeing you with other guys?
No, I don't actually.
It's very different for me.
It's very different for me.
When we're in a couple situation where it's me and him
and then another couple, it's hotter,
it's definitely hotter to me to see him with another woman
when it's in that for some experience.
Yeah, but when it's just him and another girl,
it's not as hot to me because the jealousy factor
for me comes in.
And that's one sided for me.
Maybe I don't know if you want to call it an insecurity
or whatever, it's one sided for me because for him,
it's very hot to see me with other men.
I don't think it's an insecurity.
I think a lot of people would feel that way.
And some people don't.
I just think it's whatever way you're wired.
But you enjoy watching him with another woman
when you're there.
Yeah, when I'm there, if I'm there,
I, it's not, it takes me a second as much as we're,
it's kind of weird to say,
but it takes me a second to warm up to the idea as you will.
Yeah, but once I kind of have some time to think about it
and then think it's hot in my head and stuff,
then I'm down to do it.
And you're into it while it's happening.
Yeah, and I'm one of those girls that,
if I say I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it.
Right, I'm down to do most things
and I'm not afraid to do anything.
So to explain some of the experiences that you guys
have had that you've been down to do and have done.
Well, there, so there is this one couple that we were,
so okay, so we meet and I can say where we meet people, right?
Yeah, you could say whatever.
And I keep it anonymous for your sake.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
So we primarily meet people through adult friend finder.
We've gone on set life.
We've gone on anyway, a couple of different things.
But adult friend finder, okay, so we'll,
primarily we're looking on adult friend,
on adult friend finder for couples.
Looking for, we're looking to find another couple
and that's kind of what we advertise on our profile
is that we're looking for couples.
Yeah.
But we also say in our little intro a little bit
that we are looking for obviously the female
because that's something that the female
is something hard to find.
It's like a unicorn.
Yeah, the single female.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's the hardest thing to find.
And so obviously we say that we're looking for that
and then we say on our site or on our profile
something we're picky about single men,
but he does to watch single men trucker or something that.
Right.
So looking for couples is, okay,
so looking for a single guy is easy
because there's a bunch of them.
So I can be a little bit picky
about what I'm looking for and the kind of guy
that I look for, I don't know,
and I'm a certain way or I'm to have a certain size cock
or what do you, what is your thing?
Well, I kind of have a rugged look.
I have here the rugged look and I definitely have to have
eight and a half size cocker bigger.
Sometimes we think it's hot to look for specifically
for a black guy because we're white
and we keep things hot to watch a black guy suck me.
So sometimes we look for that.
Although we've only had follow through to be truthful,
we've only had to follow through with one black guy.
So I've only been with one black guy in front of him
two times.
I was with the same guy.
And how was that?
It was good.
Okay, so we do think, okay, so we do think
some kind of kinky things too,
where because he likes to watch,
we sometimes he'll watch from the closet
and the guy won't know that he's there.
So I'll put my boyfriend in the closet.
Sometimes I've done, I've put him in the closet
maybe seven or eight times,
two of the times I had him in their handcuffed.
And I put him in my closet
and we kind of prop the closet door open a little bit.
And from the closet has a direct view or shot
the bed in the bedroom.
And so kind of prop the closet door open a little bit
and with the lights off the person
that I'm having sex with can't see into the closet
nor would they think somebody's in there
and my boyfriend's in there.
And he thinks it's hot.
I've had him in there.
He said, he handcuffed one time.
I had him in there with, I put a cot cage on him
and had him in there in a cot cage.
And who's the guy?
Where do you meet the guy?
Is it always the same one?
It's all friend finder.
It's typically is where all,
well, okay, so I will meet them
where we will find them on adult friend finder.
But then I'll go meet them at a bar for a drink first
just to make sure they're not the creeper or something.
And then invite them to follow me back to my house
and all the while my man is,
I'm texting my man while I'm with the other guy saying,
yes, I'm gonna bring him back.
Be ready.
I'll be back in five minutes or whatever.
And then my man is in the closet
kind of waiting while I have sex with the guy in my bed.
Right.
And then what happens?
You just have sex with the guy and then he leaves.
And then he leaves.
And then it's really hot for my guy.
He's, he's really into that.
And then our sex is that much hotter after.
Because we talk about it or he asks me what I liked
or maybe he can kind of taste the sex on my pussy
when he licks me after,
which is something he thinks is really hot.
And then a couple of times after we,
every time we have sex after that
or a couple of times after we kind of fantasize about that
or talk about the experience.
But do you tell these guys that you're married
or you're with a guy or do they think that you're single?
What's the story?
It kind of depends.
It kind of depends on when we meet them on AFF.
We then kind of typically move the conversation over to kick.
And then we communicate with those people via kick
and kind of tell that they might know from AFF, of course,
from the profile that we are looking for a guy to watch
or a guy to fuck me while my man watches kind of a deal.
But then sometimes I might say I might lie to the guy
and say, oh, my man's not gonna be home tonight.
Do you want to come fuck me anyway?
Yeah.
And then my man's actually in the closet, you know what I mean?
So that's kind of how,
or sometimes my man will actually be not in the closet
and he'll be watching or jacking off in the corner
or he's joined a couple of times.
But typically he likes to watch first
and then if I ask him to join it and he will
or if I ask him to me after the guy's done
or whatever he'll do that.
Is your guy into guys at all?
Is he by your side?
No, not at all.
Yeah, I am.
But he's not at all.
He will get in close contact with.
With?
With?
Yeah, or he's deep peed before,
but he won't, but nothing is end to guys, yeah.
Right.
And so when, so you've done double penetration
with him and another guy.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's pretty hard,
but that's not something that we do all the time.
But it's some, yeah,
but it's definitely something that we've done.
And then it's interesting because we might meet up,
we might meet these couples on ASF or say we're going,
we have conversations with them.
And then we might meet up with them,
have a drink with them,
and then not go through with it or not have sex with them
or not bring them back to our house forever.
How come?
Give me an example.
A time that actually happened,
an experience that you remember.
So we met up with a, okay,
we met up with this pregnant girl.
Okay, this is kind of a fantasy of my fans,
I guess you could say.
We met up with this white guy.
And his black pregnant wire.
Okay.
She was four or five months pregnant,
definitely showing.
And then it was me and my boyfriend.
And we met up with them,
just on a patio at Mexican food place
and had, you know, tips and falsehood with them.
And what was the premise that you guys met up with them
that you were going to do a full swap
that you were going to be with the girl that you're,
like what?
Yeah, it was going to be a full swap with them.
It's going to be a full swap with them.
Okay.
But then, okay, so the conversation with them,
it went to where sometimes things get in your head.
So, okay, so they were,
she was talking about how they met
and she had been kind of a,
she kind of referred to herself as a call girl, if you will.
And they had met on Tinder
and he was fucking all these younger girls
and basically referred to kind of the fact
that they were paying for other girls, I guess, on Tinder.
And I don't know.
And she had kind of referred herself as a call girl.
I don't know.
And for whatever reason, when we kind of left from them,
my man had gone out to dinner right after that.
And when we had set our goodbyes
and yeah, we'll meet up another time.
Great, whatever, let's set it up.
We left and my man was kind of,
I don't know if I want to fuck that one.
It sounds like they have a lot of people
and is it safe?
And sometimes things just get in your head.
But when you said that,
oh, she was pregnant,
that's a fantasy of my boyfriends.
He wanted to be with the pregnant girls
that he's into that and all things.
And I thought, I think it wasn't necessarily a fetish.
I think when the opportunity,
when they had said, oh, she's pregnant,
when we were talking on kick,
she had said, yeah, they had said that she's pregnant.
Is that, is that bothersome to you
or something that is what they had said?
And when my man and I were talking about it,
he was, no, I think it's kind of hot.
There's something kind of hot about doing it.
What do you think?
And I was like, oh, go ahead.
He's like, oh, that was kind of my thought.
And then, oh, and then one of the weird things
that that couple had said who we were meeting up with them
is they had said something about her going
and fucking her ex, her ex boyfriend all the time.
Something referring to the fact that the baby
might not be his.
And I think that was another turn off for us.
Right.
So maybe the baby wasn't the dad, wasn't the husband.
Yeah.
And that she was a call girl.
And I don't know, that whole situation
just kind of turned us off.
Right.
Other times where we met up with people
and we were just weren't attracted to them.
And there has to be something attractive about the people,
I think, for women.
My man has to find something sexy about her.
He just can't fuck her.
He has to find something sexy about her face,
or her tits, or her, what else, or something sexy about her.
For me, I think I don't really have a type necessarily.
I think I just think women are beautiful.
That's kind of the, I don't know.
I think women are beautiful.
And I can get down with most women,
as long as you're pretty,
and you kind of have a good personality,
or something's there.
Yeah.
With her girls,
that's a little bit different.
That we, I don't know,
he just kind of has to be cute for me.
Right.
And but for him,
he's got to find something.
He's got to be attracted.
Something sexy about her,
that he can either get behind her or something.
Right.
Something sexy about her,
where he can get down, yeah.
So you do the thing where you fuck guys
and he's in the closet.
Do you, does he do anything
when you're in the closet,
or is it just strictly him in the closet?
No.
It's really him in the closet.
And this is something
you've been kind of experiences a little bit more.
I guess, I guess it's called,
and again, I'm new to it,
but I guess it's kind of that hot wife,
that cuckolding type of thing.
Yeah.
Where, which is kind of hot to me again,
as I think about it,
and I learn about it,
and it grows on me,
it's kind of hot to me,
the whole thing,
the whole hot wife thing,
about having kind of the control,
if you will,
over him in the situation.
And Rolfer,
example, yesterday,
we didn't spend,
we're not married as so,
yesterday, morning,
and I actually put him in his car cage.
And he still has it on,
and I have the keys at my house.
Right.
He's been wearing him.
He's been wearing it for like 26 hours.
And that's kind of hot to me,
that I have control over that,
you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Did he,
do you guys get into the cock cage thing together?
Is that something that he was into before?
It's something that he had before I met him,
but from my understanding,
it's not something that he did a lot or anything.
It was just something that he had,
and he had done a couple of times.
And so now it's kind of just something we're playing with.
We kind of have been playing with a little bit more
with that ball torture,
and I don't know if it's, I don't know what it's called,
but where I kind of hit his car
every now and then,
or beat his car a little bit,
he likes that work.
We have a really good sex life alone.
We do a lot of key things,
and we have a good sex life alone,
and we try new things together and tie each other up,
and he has a contraction set up in the garage
where he ties me up also in addition to the bed,
and we try different things together.
But yeah,
we're just kind of starting out with the ball torture,
and he's kind of into that,
and it's something that I don't really think he knew
he was into until very recently,
and I definitely didn't know about it until very recently.
But if something turns me on.
And now, what about the swingers clubs?
Because you call yourself swingers.
Do you guys go to the swingers?
Yeah.
Well, there is this one place
that we actually had a reservation we canceled it.
There's this one place we want to try out called.
I believe it's called exotic dreams,
and it's in Palm Springs,
and it's a place where it's a hotel,
and you go and you rent your room for overnight,
and yeah, I mean,
I think we call ourselves swingers.
There was this one couple that we were,
that we probably had sex with five or six times,
where we had a kind of a friendship with them as well,
and they were cool people.
They were, it was cool.
She wasn't trying to get after my man,
and I wasn't trying to get after her man.
It was really mean where it was cool.
They had their marriage and their relationship,
and we had ours, and when we got together,
it was fun, and she was fun to play with,
and she and I would play together as they watched,
and they definitely knew that either of them were by,
and the guys knew that either of them were by,
and yeah, so we played with them five,
or we fucked them five or six times full squat.
It just kind of fizzled out, I guess,
and I think maybe it kind of fizzled out more for me,
because I don't know, the guy had a smaller dick than my man,
even that, so it wasn't really,
I don't know, he had quite a bit smaller dick than my man had,
and that wasn't, I mean, I just kind of got old for me,
I was okay, next.
I was just kind of ready for the next couple, if you will,
and so we're kind of looking for not a friendship,
where we need to hang out with them all the time,
but people that are cool, or we could have sex with them,
and then have sex with them every other month,
or once a month, or something like that,
where I don't know, that they're cool people,
but there's no expectations of anything else.
Yeah, yeah, so.
I know you said, you had 40 experiences,
and you jotted them down.
I don't know if there's any interesting ones
that you thought to, oh, you want to bring them up,
and go through them.
I don't know, I mean, there was this Uber driver one time,
where we, that was in Vegas, so in Vegas, there was this couple,
we didn't do anything with them,
because we didn't find anything attractive about them,
when we met them at the bar,
but then we left from there, and went back to our hotel,
and the Uber, my man started faking me,
asked the Uber driver that he could rub my pussy,
like, I was faking me,
Uber driver pulled over and started banging me,
while my man was faking me in the Uber,
which was kind of not normal for typical people, I think.
Right.
I don't know, I mean, sometimes,
oh, gosh, there's this one time,
when we weren't being asked if he could be getting,
I think now that we're,
now that we've done it a little bit,
we're a little bit pickier and a little bit safer,
but kind of at the beginning, when there was,
yeah, I was faking everybody and it was whatever,
I was just doing whoever.
One time, my man met a guy,
we met a guy on the FF,
and then he just met him at the gas station,
and I stayed home,
and my man just went and met him at the gas station,
basically made sure he wasn't a creeper and brought him home,
and I was naked, and he just brought him home and fucked me
in front of him, which was kind of,
like I didn't, I hadn't even met the guy
for a meet and greet or anything,
he just kind of brought him home and had sex at the end of last.
Oh, God, and you guys must love that, no?
Yeah, I mean, I think he really does.
I think he really loves it.
I mean, he likes to video it.
And then do you love to watch it with him after
that it turned on for you or it's more for him?
It's a turn on for me to watch it.
I don't necessarily need to watch it over and over again.
Yeah.
I think my man likes to watch it when we're not together.
He watches it, jacks off to it later.
Yeah.
But it's definitely hot to me in the moment.
I have to talk about it later when he and I are together
alone, like when we're in bed.
I have to talk about it with him or it definitely gets a boss
when I bring it up or talk about big,
the other guy's cock was or how hard he was fucking me or ask him
how many, ask him how questions did you get or, I don't know,
what was your favorite part?
I don't know.
We kind of talk about it.
It makes it hot.
Yeah, a lot of people have said that.
I think that's the biggest thing for us is talking about it.
Right.
And it goes about everything it's talking about it beforehand,
talking about it afterwards, talking about it.
If I'm comfortable with it, if he's comfortable with it,
were you guys talking about this kind of stuff early on?
Because I know you did say you're both seemingly other people
and then you realized he liked it.
And then you realized that you liked the fact that he liked it.
And then would he get into details about him with the girls?
I think you said you weren't so much into hearing about that, right?
Yeah, I was very honest with him.
And he didn't part of what I had to say at first,
because because I was very honest with him that the way he thinks
about it is not necessarily the way that I think about it.
So, for example, he thinks it's hot.
It's that it's seeing you with other men and stuff.
Yeah, but I don't necessarily feel that way about him
with I get jealous.
Yeah.
And I, that's my man.
Yeah.
What I mean, I don't know.
Yeah, and so that is a very normal reaction.
Yeah, yeah, it's, I want him to have his hands on me.
And I, yeah, especially it has to be.
I've told him this before, it's not necessarily
the, the fucking part that's not necessarily him fucking
another girl.
Yeah, it's him kissing another girl or touching another girl
or showing affection to another girl.
I don't know.
I also think you guys are in a very early on in a relationship.
Maybe if you're still together 10 years from now,
you might feel different.
Yeah, and they were not married.
So that's one of the things to that's hard for me is that we're
not married.
So people have asked to other couples have said things.
Oh, are you guys married or are you just boyfriend and girlfriend
or whatever?
Is that body?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It does bother me because it makes me feel like we're not
in a commitment.
And maybe if you had a ring, if you put a ring on it,
and you had that commitment, that would make you feel different.
And then maybe you would feel more able to share more able
to share him like, like, OK, it is my husband.
So you know what I mean?
He's my husband.
He's not going anywhere.
Yeah, I have.
And he is mine.
You got that part down, right?
Exactly.
Is that on the table for you guys, marriage?
I don't know.
He kind of doesn't really want to get married again.
But I don't think it's off the table.
But yeah, but I'm not sure.
But I definitely would consider it.
But I don't know that he's there at all.
So right.
Well, you're only doing this.
And you're only together for two years, right?
Do both of that were out of relationships right before?
Yeah, and him more recent than me, too.
So I do understand that part, too.
So yeah, that's just where we are.
But I mean, but we have a good relationship in our sex life.
It is really good.
It's interesting.
And it's weird because we kind of came from knowing each other
was doing all these people.
Yeah, yeah.
And then now just being able to be honest
with all, oh, I'm doing this guy or I'm
going to do this guy tonight, if you're going to come over
or whatever, or we kind of will talk to the couples together
try to have group conversations with them, be a kick
or whatever.
And he'll chime in or we'll share pictures or whatever.
And I don't know.
It just makes it kind of hot to share the experience together.
Do you do online stuff with?
Do you do virtual stuff with other couples, too?
Is that turn you guys on?
Because then we did at one point sign up for cam soda.
It's a website where it's a video cam site.
And we signed up.
We even bought the lights for the bedroom and stuff
or such, orcs.
And we signed up for to have sex in front of other people.
And they pay you to have sex in front of other people.
But then our computer wasn't compatible.
And we kind of chickened out or whatever.
But it was one of those things where we're definitely
OK, having sex in front of other people,
and doing those kinds of things.
And it would be kind of fun to do it and get paid for it.
So I don't know.
We might try that in the future.
Yeah, that's probably in the future.
Because I mean, you guys will listen to things two years
in and you're doing all this stuff you've done.
I mean, if you list the things you've done, double penetration.
You live out the fantasy of him hiding in the closet.
You're with other guys.
You've done threesomes where you're with other women.
You've done full swaps with couples, right?
Where you guys have sex.
You do that mostly at that club that you've gone to.
But have you also done that at your health?
We actually not mostly at the club.
We've done it with other couples primarily at our houses.
Because that way, we can kind of have them leave
when we're done.
And then we don't have to drive.
If we want to drink or whatever, it's fine.
But we did have one couple that, man, it was a good experience.
And we, I enjoyed fucking hit the guy.
And my man enjoyed fucking her.
And it was a good experience.
And that guy had a nice car, which was as good for me.
But they, after we were done, we couldn't really
get him out of the house like they wanted to stay the night.
And we kind of enjoy having our alone time.
To fucking have that hotness.
Well, do they want to do it again?
Maybe, I mean, I don't understand.
What did they want to cuddle?
Stay over in our bed.
I don't know.
Yeah, almost no.
This is not what we were in deal.
So they were kind of butt hurt because we kicked him out.
So we never did it with them again.
I mean, if they wouldn't have gotten butt hurt,
we would have totally done it with them again.
But it was so it was a hot experience.
I mean, maybe they wanted to fuck again.
I would find that odd that they would actually
want to just sleep over.
Yeah, I don't know, but they literally
blocked us afterwards.
It's not for me.
Oh, really?
Because you threw them out.
I mean, how'd you get them out?
We basically had to throw them out.
We were like, oh, you met them on.
Where do you meet them on?
We met them on AFF2.
I mean, the other crappy experiences we had were this one guy.
We had them on a hot tub.
And he was kind of arrogant.
And his wife wasn't really that good looking.
And he had said something.
I think we're, I don't know.
We were just talking or just having a joint or something
in the hot tub.
And he said something to my man.
I could make her come in 30 seconds.
He was just very arrogant, I don't know.
And right then it was a light switch.
It just turned us off.
And the whole kind of experience was over
because he was just being arrogant-ass.
This little thing that can just turn it off,
it just has to be a good experience.
So we've had lots of experiences where we've
fucked a lot or one guy wanted to fuck all night
and did time to be done.
Another guy, this guy was too young to perform.
He was just inexperienced.
And I think he got scared seeing my man in the room.
I don't know.
He just couldn't get it out.
Oh, wow.
That's bad.
Funny unicorn experience.
That's a good question.
Well, it's super hard.
So we only had that one experience with my coworker.
I said that didn't go all the way.
Well, he just didn't penetrate her, right?
Yeah.
But then no, we haven't had any of the unicorn experiences
but we've tried to communicate with them.
And then sometimes, and I don't know, again,
if it's just my jealousy factor, but sometimes the girls,
they just, OK, if you're talking to a guy on Kicker EFF,
they just, a guy knows it's about to fuck.
Do you know what I mean?
Where the guys, OK, I'm going to fuck her.
I'm cool.
I'm just going to get off them down.
I know we do.
Yeah.
But girls aren't really that for the most part.
Typically, they want to talk and they want to get to know you
and they want to have many kids you have and love, love, love.
Did you have a nice Christmas and all these things?
And they want to have a full-blown conversations.
And to me, I don't want to have a relationship with you.
We just want to have sex with you.
Right.
And it's harder to find the girl that'll just come over
and just do it.
Exactly.
Now, do you ever hook up with girls alone, solo or no?
No, I haven't, not since.
I haven't, not since I've been with this, not since I've
been with my boyfriend.
I haven't the past, but not since I've been, not
for the past two years.
Right.
Now, is that something you'd be into doing?
Or no, because you guys are just doing all this other stuff?
It's not necessarily something I'm into at the moment.
No, not really something that I'm into at the moment.
I kind of be the hotness of us doing it together.
To me, it's hot that we share the experiences together.
It's kind of that kind of enhances our relationship
and our intimacy in and out of the bedroom in my opinion anyway.
And so have you hooked up?
So you've done more of that kind of stuff also, though,
at that club, right, that you've gone to?
With other girls.
You mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely
have hooked up with other girls at the club.
And he watches and stuff.
And then obviously, if there's a couple that we're getting
with the girl and I hook up, usually,
that's how it gets started, is when it's enough
to force our couples, couple and couple situation,
is the girl and I will typically start it.
And then that's kind of how it gets the ball rolling
for the force them to begin.
Right.
Now, are these clubs near your house?
We have you guys ever bumped into anyone
that you know or any kind of weird situation,
or adult-friendly finders?
You saw people, you know?
Well, okay, so no.
Yes and no.
We've never seen anybody at the club that we've known, no.
We have obviously seen regulars at the club
that we've met there before.
Did you ever bump into anyone that you know
on a girlfriend finders or anything
if you're in your neighbor at close-by
to where you will live or you looking for a new receipt?
So not on our neighborhood, no.
But recently, I created a Tinder account
because we were kind of looking for other women
because we were going to talk to that one couple,
that pregnant girl and that guy.
And they had told us that they had fucked
all those girls from Tinder.
Yes.
I created a Tinder account hoping we could find
a single female to bring in to the house or whatever.
And since then, I have found people that I know,
or people have found me, that I know from there
and swiped right, if you will, on my Tinder.
And so they kind of know a little bit about,
a little bit about, well, how might, how's on an IR?
How might I be on an IR?
Yeah.
They kind of know a little bit about who we are
and how we are as a couple,
based on those profiles that they've seen.
Do you tell any of your other friends,
though, just your regular friends,
what you go down?
No, we have one time, the second experience that we had.
So the one was with that coworker,
a girl, the first one, and then the second experience
that we had was with one of his best friends
and one of my good friends.
We kind of had set them up on a date.
And then the four of us kind of got together.
I didn't get with his friend and he didn't get with my friends.
But he got with her, he and I licked her
and she and him looked me.
But then it was kind of same room sex.
So there was that experience.
I'm saying, do any of your friends know
that you have this boyfriend now
when you guys are really open
and you do all this stuff
or is it really on the down low?
I've told them that we've had other girls
in the house and stuff,
but there's only one guy that I'm friends with
that knows that John likes to watch me get fucked
by other men and all those things.
And he thinks it's hot because him and his woman,
his ex woman now, but his woman at the time
were together for 10 years
and they were also in the lifestyle
where they had been with other couples in the past also.
So there's only one other guy that I've talked to about it.
And as far as I know, my boyfriend has not told his friends.
He kind of has shared with me that he hasn't
told his friends about it.
I know that at the beginning,
beginning of our relationship two years ago,
his best friend knew that I would have been down
fucking the two of them together.
So he knows that I'm not a goody too.
She's just kind of a girl or something,
but I don't think they know the details or anything.
And I think that's really between John and I don't think
that a lot of people know.
So did you guys start out with any rules?
Because I know that you said you don't like him,
kiss women and stuff like that.
Do you guys have specific rules that you have with each other?
Yeah, and the rules kind of change every now and then,
but one of the rules that stays the same is protection.
Or we always use protection.
One, the one couple that we had sex with five or six times,
we did, we ended up not using protection
with that the last couple of times.
Right, but everybody else that we've been with,
we've used protection.
So that's our hard and fast rule is that one.
As far as everything else is concerned, really it's,
I don't know, I think sometimes it comes down to respect thing.
I don't really think John was seeing a guy totally full
and make out with me.
But has he ever, but I know that you said you, you know,
mind the sex with him with another woman.
You guys have, you've seen him,
fuck other girls in front of you.
Yes, is it he's not allowed to kiss them?
Because sometimes in the heat of passion,
shit goes down, right?
Are they, do you, does he, is he allowed,
or is that, is that a thing that you've talked about?
He's allowed to do it every once.
And one of the things that we're both really mindful of,
I guess is that in the heat of the moment, it's different.
Things go down or it's different that, and we're both very aware of that.
That that doesn't, that doesn't mean anything.
Yeah, but has it ever, have you ever looked over and saw him
making out with a girl and it made you jealous?
Or does it typically not happen?
I mean, have you, I have looked over?
Yes, I have looked over when we're both getting fucked
and he's fucking her doggy style or whatever.
And I've looked over and seen him kiss her neck
or something and that would get to me a little bit.
Yeah.
But I just kind of turn the other,
I just kind of turn the other way and can really get out of it
and enjoy the moment because I'm one of those girls
who said it really sex.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you don't want to, he said, ruin the moment.
You just want to join.
You ruin the moment.
Yeah, and it is, I said, in the heat of the moment.
And so I don't think he means anything by it
or he's going to go be with her or something.
Yeah, he loves her because he kissed her neck
or something like that.
But you don't have conversation with him afterwards saying,
hey, listen, that bothered me.
Don't do that or anything.
I mean, have you have,
because I do know that with couples,
other couples have called him that to swing
or have open relationships.
Not always so perfect.
Jealousy does come into play sometimes.
It's normal.
It does, girl, it does.
Right.
Jealousy does come into play.
And then I think, okay, so the other day,
this guy, Matt, was going to come over
and he was going to fuck me.
And I have had sex with this guy, Matt, many times before, okay?
And so before John too, before my boyfriend.
Yeah.
And so, but Matt, I have his kind of family friend,
I've known him forever.
I would be comfortable with John being in the closet
with Matt here,
because Matt's one of those guys
where he'd probably open the closet,
go with the fucking gun here.
He's one of those guys' family.
Yeah.
So I had told John,
I'm not really cool with you.
I'll fuck Matt and tell you about it and stuff.
And you can lick my pussy afterwards and whatever.
Well, I'm not comfortable with you being here
while I'm fucking him.
So in the past,
John has gone and waited out in the truck.
Yeah.
Oh really?
Yeah.
In the front yard,
while I fuck Matt at the house
and then make Matt leave
and then John comes in
and licks my pussy or fucks me or whatever,
well Matt had said he was gonna bring over with cream
and let me see if he'll a little bit jealous.
Oh, okay.
But I don't think John gets jealous
nearly as much as I do.
Right.
I'm a girl and I definitely not with the most jealous girl
because I let him fuck other women, right?
Yeah.
But so I try to be mindful of that too.
I'm not an asshole.
But I definitely do get jealous
because I want to make sure that he's mine
and again,
because there's no commitment there.
I just want to make sure that we're in a committed relationship.
And you just want to make sure
that there's no relationship coming out of him
hooking up with these girls outside of the sex part of it, right?
With the text.
Yeah, and I don't think that's the case at all
because when I really think about it in my heart,
I know that he's with me.
You know what I mean?
And in my head, I know that he's with me.
Right.
And so I don't think by any means,
any shape or form,
he's looking for another relationship
out of these fucking these other women by any means.
I just want to make sure with that unicorn girl
that she's not thinking about, you know what I mean?
That's the problem because if you find a girl
and she's single, right?
I think that's the thing that people worry about
because if that girl comes in and starts to have sex,
is she going to start liking your guy?
What's going to sort of happen?
So yeah, and then again,
they'll to communicate more the women.
Right. They want to get to know you more.
Right.
And I'm okay. You don't need to get to know him.
It's cool. You can track him,
but you don't need to get to know him.
Right. Right. Right.
Well, your guy's going to hear this episode
and he's going to hear us talking about the whole marriage thing.
So maybe that'll get the conversation going.
And we just he know I'm assuming he knows
that you want to be married
and he's just not into it right now.
He knows. Yeah.
It's just he's just not into it.
And that's and but I don't know.
I mean, also it's I'm not counting my chickens
or anything there.
I mean, anything can happen.
Right. It is what it is.
I mean, if it works out great,
and if it doesn't, but you know,
right, let me ask you this if you did it for me right now.
Yeah. And if it didn't work out for you, right,
say worst case scenario for some reason,
I was going to ask this before regardless of what you're this guy.
Having a relationship this where you're with somebody, right?
And you said it's cliche or whatever,
but with the minute you met him,
you were really able to be really yourself and open about it.
And you guys are straight up and you're not monogamous at all
with each other. You're open.
You're with other people and in a relationship with things
that don't work out with him.
Would you have to find another guy to have
this kind of open relationship?
Or do you think you could go back to ever having a, quote,
unquote, monogamous relationship?
Or would this be the kind of relationship you'd always seek out now?
So I thought about that before if I would want to go back to a monogamous relationship.
And I know I don't see myself ever being satisfied,
necessarily, right in a monogamous relationship.
But I don't know.
I mean, I guess as you get older,
maybe it could be not maybe is,
I don't know if you're sex drive gets less or whatever as you get older,
but my answer right now would be no.
I couldn't see myself looking for a monogamous relationship.
I would look for a relationship where I could be honest again,
and where I could not necessarily fuck just other men in front of him,
but definitely would be interested in doing the couples thing together
and the swap thing together because I enjoy that the most.
Right. That's why you the most the couple I do.
I got the most it's a good shared experience for me.
And again, I feel we can talk about it a lot afterwards,
communicate with the couple together again,
the girl in the relationship,
the other relationship is not looking for another relationship.
She's married. Yeah, yeah, that takes a lot.
That takes all of that off the table,
which I think is not helpful. Yeah, totally.
It takes a lot and for me,
then it's just about the fun of it.
It's just about the fact that it's about the experience,
which is cool for me. That's what I think it's fun.
Yeah, that makes sense. That would make sense.
And I think I said, I think you guys are a new relationship.
It's two years and 10 years from now,
you might be more trusting.
I mean, because you guys could be married then or not married,
but just with each other for so long that you feel different.
Who knows, but right now you know what works for you.
Which doesn't work for you.
And I think that's what's most important.
It's just being honest about where you're at
and what you're into.
And there's no right or wrong.
You know what I mean?
If that, if what's right is the most important thing I think
is that you're honest with yourself.
There's no reason to torture yourself
if something doesn't feel right for you.
And it's cool that I can tell him,
hey, I'm not really with that.
Or that doesn't turn me on.
Right. Like if I can tell him,
hey, that doesn't turn me on.
He might be a little gift.
Maybe I can give him a day.
You could be best for a day.
I really don't care if you're pissed for a day
that I don't want you to do X, Y or Z.
But he'll come around because he realizes
that he has a good thing here with a woman wanting
and liking to be with other people
and letting him fuck other women and think that,
he'll come around to the fact
if I'm not comfortable with something.
And then he respects that too,
which is also a really cool thing
that we can respect and be truthful and honest
with each other about our feelings about.
This can be a really sensitive subject
when you're talking with one another.
It can be really sensitive.
And it's just good to be mindful and truthful.
Yeah, and have good communication.
So what, what goes down now that he's in the cocage?
When do you let him out?
Well,
well, lucky for him,
I'm going to be going over to his house after today.
We don't even live together.
We live in separate homes.
And so we live about 45 minutes away from each other.
So I'll be going over there after you
and I hang up the phone.
I'm gonna take my time getting ready
so he could stay in there for another hour or so.
Right.
And then I'll bring the keys with me if he's lucky.
Right.
There you go.
All right, so that's a very cool part.
I think he'll think it's super hot
that I could talk to him about you're in my conversation.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So obviously not here listening.
So it's kind of cool to be able to share with him.
And I think he's gonna like listening to it.
Yeah, for sure.
It's a rather hot thing for us to talk about.
Yeah, definitely.
And then maybe I'll let him out of it.
Yeah, that's hilarious.
So yeah, thanks so much, Adrian, for calling in
and being so honest about all your shit.
It's so interesting.
All right, girl, it was a pleasure talking to you
and I love your show.
So good luck with everything.
Thank you.
Thanks for tuning in.
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