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podcast and so today I have on George and Mary I love when I do a couple like
this I got George coming on first and then Mary coming on second
Georgia Mary are in a relationship they've been together for a couple years
four years I think very much in love have a great relationship everything's
really great and at some point in their relationship Mary brought up that
she used to be in the lifestyle that's why I get her story separate because
she came into that relationship with the backstory which is fucking fascinating
George talks about meeting Mary and when she brought up that she had this
past history of being in the lifestyle and then there are a couple of
experiences that they had together he gets in detail about that how he felt when
she told him when she told him and then their experiences he goes into details
of those experience one of them was a gangbang I'm like I call that a gangbang
she actually when I talked to her she calls it a gangbang too it definitely was
when he talks all about that good stuff how he felt what exactly what went
down and how he feels about being in the lifestyle with his girl
then Mary comes on and I get her whole backstory her backstory is
fascinating all I knew before I got on the phone with her was that she was a
25 year old virgin who got into the lifestyle with the first guy she met
went and I'm like how the fuck does that happen my first question to her was why
were you a virgin still at 25 her answer is fascinating it made sense when she
told me I'm not gonna tell you right now I'm not gonna give it all away in
that episode but you might see it in the description if you don't want to
spoiler alert don't read the description but when she explained why it like I
said it definitely made sense she was older when she lost a virginity and it was
hilarious the way she lost it because she was one of those people that when she
did get into having sex she had weird rules and regulations about it so
really she went in having anal first and not vaginal but once she was in she
was fully in because the first guy she met like I said was this guy that was in
the lifestyle he was very honest to her about it straight up from the
beginning not only that was in the lifestyle but that he was with other women so
she always had clear boundaries of what this relationship was with him and she
was down to take that ride she looked at it as like an exploration and boy did
she explore with him I mean they got into BDSM and they got hardcore into house
parties and she went to a lot of house parties they did all kinds of things she
was totally open to it he taught her out of squirt we talk about that how that
came up she got into BDSM she talks about how she would have never thought she
would like pain and she'd be able to turn it into pleasure but she did and she
talks about all their experiences and how that relationship worked and it was
different than George and that that guy she was always able to keep her
distance because she knew he was very very into the lifestyle and that was
something she didn't want to ever totally get into and that's why she has some
moderation with George and then she does go into explaining the birthday
present that she got George which was his first experience in the lifestyle that
time she had a gang bang that was his birthday present okay that's what she
gave him she explains that time as well as the second time they've just
been to clubs together she's still looking for house parties because she likes
house parties her whole story is fascinating and interesting so I'm going to
get right to it and be right back on with George and Mary and they did send me
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George and Mary
hi George welcome to the strictly on his podcast how are you today I'm doing great
Kathy how are you I'm good so listen I'm gonna I'm gonna do something that I do
I've done before where I'm gonna talk to you first
George you're one person in a couple you have a girlfriend you guys are in
the lifestyle you just started she's the one that got you into it she's the
one who was in the lifestyle already when you met her she was already in it she
went she's very interesting and we're gonna talk to her too halfway through
this episode we're gonna get her on the call after I get the backstory from you
and she's gonna talk about her story because she's a girl that like went from
being a virgin till she was kind of old if you ask me I was kind of slutty and left
my lost my virginity when I was really young she loses her virginity and boom
first guy gets her into the lifestyle so she's got that backstory and then she
got you into it so I'm gonna talk to you first and just
everyone needs to stay tuned because after I hear from you
Mary's also gonna be on this call so George I know that one of the first
things you said in the email was that you guys are an
interracial couple how did you guys meet tell me that story
so unfortunately I don't want to say unfortunately but so we got online
well on the data dating apps so everyone does it is what it is so
dated everything's going I think it's going great and everything's normal
whatever and yeah we're having some people talk and naturally you start talking
about your experiences x's what have you yeah and yeah the lifestyle comes up
and I think maybe I've heard of maybe I've heard of it before but didn't really
think of I don't know just never really put one to one together
and so to kind of hear that yeah my partner I was from
into the lifestyles like okay that he didn't really know yeah
it didn't really know what to do with that but I knew the bad George
on my shoulder was hey we need to explore this
and can I ask you a question how long into your
dating did she tell you that because that is always kind of like what is
that sweet spot when is the the correct time to start really letting your
freak flag fly with someone I can't I would say about six
nine months oh a long time yeah yeah wasn't
early wasn't a two but yeah yeah so definitely we had
had built up trust and love for each other so yeah so still she tells me
everything and was her first and so that was that
alone was intriguing right so then there's parties and there's
there's clubs and I'm just I'm kind of turned doing
but the same time like am I allowed to be turned doing is this
is this okay is this normal like you're kind of like
wrestling with all your thoughts in your head yeah
but but I was definitely I'm still a man right so I'm definitely intrigued
definitely want to see what to see what the hype was all about
and again I think what is it was first brought up to be Kathy
nothing really transpired right nothing happened um it was actually if you want
me to lean into where I can yeah so actually what happened was for my
birthday she took me out and it was a club and to come to find out it was a
yeah it was this room's club so that was my first experience yeah yeah let me
ask you this did you guys have conversations about what you were going to do
what you were going to not do were there any kind of rules or regulations and
then the other thing I'd want to know is did you were you nervous of how you'd
feel like if you guys were going to swap or do anything like that
so the great question so we never really talked about rules okay I think we
probably if anything if anything we probably said no
kissing but ironically Mary was open to the
kissing like hey what happens that happens it is what it is
so at that so I'm I'm pretty more I'm more of a pleaser right I want to make
sure my partner is having at the time happy and joining
themselves so pretty much whatever if she's happy I'm happy
but I also know my partner in a sense of hey it's one thing if you're playing
with a boyfriend but it's another thing if you're playing with someone who you
really really care about so I was I wanted to kind of guard her heart too
but then the bad George was like hey man we need to see what's going on
we need to check this out so as far as rules I believe
budget just a kissing but that was kind of one of those things like hey if it
happens it happens it is what it is I forget what was your second oh what were
you gonna do were you going to do full swaps or anything did you know how far
you were going to go or did you think you just feel it out when you got there I
think we were just going to steal out what we got there but I think I also told
her like hey look I'm not the one just to kind of you know go somewhere and not
have fun I'm I'm it sounds amazing right it sounds like a free for all so hey what's
what but in my head which I didn't tell her I wanted I wanted to kind of
watch her I didn't want to my first experience
and I'm having sex with another woman so I kind of wanted to hurt the
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yeah you want to sit back and watch while you got comfortable I that makes
sense exactly yeah that makes sense okay so you get to the club so it's your
birthday all the stars in line like you say and she's got your fucking
girlfriend's giving you a great present she's let's go to a sex club listen
listen Kathy so at the it's two floors two levels of recovery so the prime
level is a dance floor I believe in a strip of floor there there's B-I-L-B
whatever and then there's upstairs so now upstairs there's lockers and then
there's a big shower see through glass so everyone can see me there and then
there's individual rooms or whatever so then you got the porn on the TV's
so I'm like I'm a kid in the canister right I'm like yo this is this is
this is like eyes wide shut it's great I'm all in yeah so so we want that downstairs
having to put drinks whatever whatever don't really see any couples that kind of
want to play with or whatever's but let's do it early now Mary she's the one
if the party's that nine to two maybe still at nine 15 I'm like Mary we can't
we can't get this early right you got to kind of get there in the middle but
I've got to take my battles so so we're there early whatever kind of feeling
an out and after after a few drinks I'm like hey let's just go upstairs let's just go
upstairs let's see what's going on so we go upstairs there's I don't see a
hound dogs but there's like a row of guys
real sitting down like just yeah just sitting down they just they're talking
but they're like you know what's going on right so it's like all right this is
different but okay so we walk into into one of the rooms close the door
we start getting busy she's giving me head I'm getting excited because I know
I see they're outside the door so I can't remember who opened the door but I
believe of course you may might see something different
I believe I actually I said hey do you want to open the door
Mary Kathy she opens the door and it's like a free fall I mean you got guys you
running over each other I mean everyone's coming in like an orgy oh my
good Mary big orgy so let's say four guys might be five let's say four guys come
in and she's going to town right she's sucking one off she's sucking another
one that's oh my goodness your wife off that ass
so again I have so much going through my head right now right what's going
and knowing George how here with what's going oh what are you doing here right
are you turned on now are you turned on oh little hey listen little George was
he was ready okay let's go yeah so it was it was it was amazing so so
anyways she's she's having fun I think I think five minutes into a
Kathy she's squirting over it on the bed oh my goodness it's it is amazing she's
back in her glory right she's known as before yeah and by the way that's why
she didn't give a shit about kissing because it's everyone's typically a lot of
people have that rule in the beginning and she was probably going to tell me
that her and her guy did it at first but it's always the first one to go out
and nobody that's in the lifestyle for a long time
ever keeps that rule that's never one that's still there years later that's why
she was like who gives a fuck because she's been there on that right yeah so
anyway so wait so she's how many guys are in there that she's hanging out with
Kathy there's there's at least five oh my goodness maybe it's a game then could we call it a
game thing hey I mean so here's the funny part yeah so now so there's a security guard
he walks around whatever so security guard walks by the room and goes hey there's too many
guys in here right too many guys in here this this room is for about two or three people
you can't you can't six or seven yeah so so I think and I never admit it to this so I'm
definitely gonna deny this even those tapes so I believe I close the door I believe Luna George
was so excited hey man he's wearing an operate I believe I close the door oh my god there was so many
guys there was so many guys there that he thought it was one of the other guys who closed the door
right it was me yeah but so now he opens up he's been on the door open the door so he finally comes
in there he's everyone out everyone out so now it's just me and Mary so Mary's hair's all messed up
so so now we hey close the door now me and Mary we go to town we finish fucking over there
then didn't leave Kathy had to believe we have sex again in the car have sex again at the hotel I
mean that night yeah my Kathy the reclaiming I was living up listen it it was like I was living
in an appornal scene it was amazing I love your like regular person view of things because really
this is like you had never done anything like this and you're older than her she's younger than
you right she's 32 how old are you again right 36 36 okay cool so you would never been with a
girl that was into any of this kind of stuff so this was your first experience and so the reclaiming
is like everybody talks about like unbelievable yes yes it was I mean the reclaiming like that was
that was amazing so definitely had fun great experience and then actually it took about a
probably another year until we played again so that that was another experience so it was
it was definitely definitely fun but let me ask you a question before we get to that second
experience and then we're gonna get and then we're gonna get Mary on and get her back story
so after that night it was in the heat of passion you're just really horny you feel one way
and then sometimes after you lose your erection and your back reality might feel another way
did you ever at any point after that first experience this is your first time in your whole life
that you see your girl with other guys did you have any kind of mixed feelings about it or was it
all just wow I'm totally okay with that's like can't be whole hardly yeah that's great anything
like like can't be honestly like I'll be talking shit as oh yeah you miss all those guys and
like we're actually like playing with each yeah can't be so no actually as a guy we're already
warning or whatever so this was this was one of my allies okay all right let's go yeah but the
the reason why I ask is because I think and I wonder if I was talking to George before he met Mary
and before you ever did this and I was your friend and we were just having a cup of coffee and I
was like George do you think you could ever watch your girl fucking other guy my friend just did
that or something like because you might have said no way like I could never because a lot of
guys I think regular guys that's what's so interesting about you is you're just this regular guy
that I lived in the vanilla world in comes Mary she gets you into the lifestyle takes you out and
boom first night like all this shit is going down and you're totally okay with it but I wonder
would would you have thought you would be okay because I don't think that most guys even though
they're so super horny right we all know guys think with their dicks they're it's not like they're
all like totally uh down to watch their girl fucking other guy I mean it seems like a big
king because I have so many episodes on it but I think a lot of guys really would be very jealous and
would never want their girl fucking another guy it's a truly street though right so there's there's
the one side of the street where they will never admit to it right they're not like I'm not
from it to whatever that's that sounds that sounds that sounds crazy right so you have that
right right right right so you have that you have that side you don't have actually this is like
there's a lot of layers here right then you also have you know so like we play like an hour actually
like two hours away I'm like hey look if we're doing this like I need to be I need to be like you
know hours away or whatever because you know last thing I want to do is walk in somewhere and I see
so up like no that's gonna be an awkwardness to whatever so you have that you have that and then
one thing about Mary is if she would ever say hey George this isn't gonna work like I I thought I
was cool with it with my boyfriend but you know you're in a different atmosphere I think it's
communication and really just making sure your partner is it's okay with it because I know if I
would have told Mary hey mmm not really feeling it and then I think also cat I know I'm getting
along with it I think also because that first experience was it was kind of it's kind of fast right
if the security guard didn't come in there and we're in downtown for an hour yeah I might feel a
little bit right so it's kind of it's kind of hard to say oh so because on that first so that first
experience it wasn't like you saw her doing a lot you didn't have a lot of time to think about it
because that happened fast they got kicked out and then you got to reconnect with her so yeah right
right I mean you know she's doing it in the course right so you know it's like guys off whatever
it wasn't like their missionary and something sensual I don't think that you need to feel that way
I'm just saying that I think that a lot of guys would expect that they would feel that way
and it's interesting when they don't and a lot of guys come on and are here to say that they
would have totally thought that they thought they they would be jealous watching their girl
and so on but it actually did was the opposite they were turned on so now get to your second experience
second experience I think we were just it was just one most nights one was only nights and we had
it we had a free kid night so whenever whenever you have a free kid night you want to take a
band of that so so yeah we go up to you we go out a few hours away we get there there's like a
smoke room so we're at the smoke room we're talking to other people asking questions one one
couple actually got married and I was like this is again I'm just my mind is blowing okay people
get married this is this is this is out there so I had a couple drinks whatever I had a smoke
go up we go upstairs now this one that's one was beautiful you go upstairs seems set up
different beds but everything's wide open though everything's wide open so as you go upstairs
there's I want to see four beds in this one area so three of the beds are again occupied right you
got two couple three of the couples you know going downtown but this having fun so a little
little George is like all right hey let's go it's time it's time to put in some work um so yeah
lay Mary down start eating her out she's I mean she's left for the pennies I mean it was just
it was awesome so now the couples see us and I want to say we're probably the youngest ones there
so they start joining so I back out Kathy and then I want to watch the guys play with Mary now then
one of the wives from the guys she grabs me she grabs me to the other bed or whatever
let's not say oh man here here it is this is God testing me so yeah Mary's on one bed I'm with
the other bed and yeah yeah we're we're we're fucking and in my head I was like man I will see how
this goes but it was awesome now the funny part was I was it I wasn't fully into it with the other
female so that kind of took a little fun out of it so then I joined back reconnected reclaimed
with Mary so now now you know fuck Mary whatever now one of the guys he's about to come
I said hey come on my face come on my face never again bad George I'm a bad George I get in
trouble bad George that George is like yeah my shoulder and so he finishes on her face and
everything I mean Kathy again amazing so I think yeah then I finish we get the club Kathy then
around the corner we fuck some more in the in a car I think there's even people walking by so yeah
I think yeah yeah that's bad George Kathy bad George well there's nothing bad about it that's
the greatest thing about when you're doing something like this with somebody that you care about
you're in a committed relationship she's down for it you're down for it you guys are doing this
for the right reason you're in it together that's the way to do yeah nothing bad your girls your
girls open to it and interested in it I mean how long have you guys been together so far now
four years oh four years right so you guys been together for a long time I mean did it
would you say it's strengthened your relationship your sex life I mean that's what a lot of
people say I made your sex life better because you could refer back to those scenes now
well I guess because we could talk about those scenes right but but but I would say no because
again our sex life that's always been oh my goodness I mean it has always been anywhere anytime
so but having another experience I think that has definitely definitely something to talk about
so no definitely it's been it's been it's been arrived definitely arrived right that's interesting
because you always had a good sex life anyway so it's not like this is doing anything more just
an extension of that now do you plan on going back I mean what are your guys plans we're gonna
get married on now but what are your future plans I mean are you down to go back are you into it
oh yeah almost definitely so I think so one thing that Mary's into is the whole tying up and
and things things of that nature so we want to do more just different things so something was
that is that BDSM something like that so more bondage play so we've done clubs now Mary she
she's done house parties so we want to try different things we're on we're on reddit we're on
what's the other one fat live Mary she's she has our only fans but believe it not it's actually
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so we're very of course that's my heart so I'm very protective of her so once I feel like a red flag
I'm like yeah now we're not gonna do that so so yeah we just do the clothes but no definitely
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the lifestyle so we're going to get her on now and i'm going to get her whole backstory and get
this story from her perspective so thanks george and little george for coming on the show
yeah big george a little george let's get her on thanks for calling in and then and now thanks
for passing me on to marie bye george hi marie welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast i just
talked to your guy george i'm happy thanks for having us or talking to him and now talking to me
yeah this is fun listen because you had a little backstory going on i was like i'm going to talk
to marie separately and we always leave the girl for last because that's who my listeners love to
hear from and it's interesting because you have a backstory i mean you and george just you guys
have been together for a while and you did open up your relationship and you guys jumped into the
lifestyle you've had a couple experiences he went through those we'll talk about those as well
you'll tell me that story too but i know what was interesting about you what he put in the emo was
like yeah i have this girlfriend she's like 32 but when she was 25 she lost her virginity and then
got into the lifestyle like so two things right there stood out to me like a 25 is pretty late
to lose your virginity and then to go straight from being a virgin in the lifestyle i love that complete
turnaround it's just i'm like i need to hear i need to hear that story yeah i need to talk to marie
separately so we'll eventually get to the point where you meet george and you guys get into the
lifestyle but tell me first of all why were you still a virgin at 25 i grew up in a conservative
family my childhood and rearing i was homeschooled from kindergarten to college and then in high school
i would take you know um you could actually start college in high school so i took some college
courses in high school i went to a college locally so i commuted so i work and commuted and that
kept me so busy that and i was in nursing school so that kept me so busy that i didn't have time to
even think about dating i was still living at home and so i graduated and got my job i was like okay
it's time to move out so move down and i was like all right well now like i need to start dating i
haven't done this before so you go to the apps go to all dating apps and start swiping and then
that's when i met i guess my first study boyfriend i guess and he was always very upfront about
what he liked his lifestyle etc etc and i was like okay well i can't i don't know too much
about this like basically i know nothing yeah that's crazy so he was straight up right from the
beginning listen i'm in the lifestyle i go to swingers call that kind of a thing he explained to you
yep yep 100% he's i love unicorns i want to hear all i just go out and do my thing i'm like
well that's a lot and no i don't want to hear all but you seem like fun so we'll keep hanging out
let me ask you this because you did live in this world where you're homeschooled and everything
was it as far as sex is concerned and masturbation and porn did you have any kind of experience
you just sort of being curious on your own or did you know nothing yeah you did okay so i would
because the information given to me was so limited i did get curious yeah as i got older so i did
watch porn the whole masturbation i didn't do that until i moved out because i really didn't know
what i'm doing wow that's so interesting that i didn't start until after i had moved out
wow maybe homes maybe if you really want to control your your kids homeschooling is the
way to do it i mean she you really didn't know what the fuck was going on you didn't know anything
about the outside world not even how to jerk off yeah no and i would get obviously excited and
turned off yeah yeah i'm sharing porn like it wasn't like i was like ew of course yeah i was
excited i was turned on but yeah i guess not enough to figure it out myself want to do it myself
did you know what to kind of do with what i was feeling okay well like i'm feeling kind of excited
but what do i do now um and do you remember that first time when you moved out that you went to
town on yourself i mean like how did that happen yeah well i bought a toy because i'm like i don't
like when my fingers like no i need i need something more just because that's kind of what i was
watching a porn yeah yeah you had a you had a had a guy or they had a toy okay well i need something
so yeah so i got a toy and i had to say i it was it was interesting even now i it's fine because
i was actually talking to George about this recently like getting myself off is a as it's limiting
to me i need more than that but yeah so started going out with this guy um i think i probably he
probably saw me as a little bit of a challenge because hey she's a some schoolgirl that knows nothing
and all right and he's obviously on a hundred so i think he definitely saw out of me as a little
bit of a challenge and what did you think about him considering he was a guy that was on the
opposite end of the spectrum were you little nervous or intimidated or were you excited and curious
what how did you feel about him i was very comfortable like he made me feel very comfortable very
curious it didn't feel pressured yeah interesting okay he was just like just very straight forward
and open about it and it was more like having a conversation it wasn't like he was trying to
hide it to get me into it or force me it was just like hey this is what i do and he was you know
okay hanging out with me without doing anything yeah yeah so i was like okay sure yeah we'll hang
out and i also knew i also appreciated him being honest from the beginning because they also knew that
honestly i wasn't the only the only person he was seeing so i think for me it was like okay
like i can view you as a friend i can experience new things with you but i'm also not afraid of falling
head over heels for you because those are certain things that i don't want in a permanent
relationship right so it was more of exploring i guess i kind of viewed as more of an exploration
with him yeah what a fucking exploration you brought on your first i kind of feel bad i mean
your poor mom here she was hiding you from the world all this time which she didn't know as you'd
go the opposite oh my god so the way i was raised and mentally i was like okay well for
genetics that's tied to a certain spot you don't let anybody go there yeah so it's okay well
there's the back door that doesn't count oh my god i love people like you it's the most twisted
fucking thing i've ever heard if you fuck me in my pussy hall that is against god's law but you
could fuck me in the ass you know he doesn't care about that so yeah so explored that first i don't know
maybe yeah yeah that it may be simultaneous with oral i guess so you know yeah and then
went the whole way several visits time months later and then once that cherry happened
perhaps then it was like okay well what else do we want to do so we did things by ourselves with the
tying up and um spanking or like whips and stuff like that and then we wanted to he he wanted to
introduce me to the clubs yeah and i was open i was like okay like i can go and i want to feel
comfortable with just watching and i felt comfortable i didn't feel pressured if we went
that's okay yeah i'm just a curious i'll never say i'll never say never but i'm open to seeing and
trying new things as long as i feel like i can say no and be hurt yeah totally so then COVID came
and all the clubs shut down oh no and we never made it to a club i'm like oh you've got me like
all interested all excited like i want to i don't know me and see other people that do this like
you're in this lifestyle that you're telling me to be out but i really haven't seen you
in this lifestyle this is always just been us so he found a house party oh okay yeah so found a
house party beautiful big house a couple of owner and live there and they open up their house i think
was like once a month to these swimmer parties and i was like okay sure i guess it's the same
difference whatever so we did that and i really liked it were you nervous i i was i was nervous the first
time we went i kind of planned it where i had to work the next day mm-hmm so i'm like hey i'll come see
what's going on but i can't stay like really late because i have to go to work the next day right you
give yourself an act yeah so that was my out so i was able to go and observe and just kind of sit and
chill and that's that's actually what i really enjoyed i enjoyed all these people there just doing
what they wanted to do they didn't care about anybody else all down to earth super sweet and genuine
and welcoming because they're all doing the same thing it just felt very comfortable and very welcoming
it was couples you had single females there was only a couple i mean that literally single man they
really tried to limit the single man yeah that's um exactly so yeah so i was able to observe and
he went off and he did his own thing he would come back and check on me we did a little bit of
playing just us so whatever while i was there mm-hmm and i think because i knew that pay this is his
scene yeah i was okay with him just going off and playing because i'm like that's what he does
like i he's always been open about that so i was okay in the in the scenarios with him yeah for him
just going off and doing his thing i didn't feel comfortable going off and doing my thing just
because i still felt new to it so we went to quite a few i would say at least have a i don't know
i maybe half a dozen a handful of them together and each experience was different it was nice
because you would see a lot of familiar faces which i mean you'd be more comfortable yeah and then
like hey i'll see you next time and we'll do something next time they also had some different themes
whether it was what different outfits were or they would have almost like a different lesson somebody
presenting something like they had somebody presenting spanking one time oh interesting
do that in a sensual appropriate way and i think they had somebody doing like different times one
time so it was just kind of a way to kind of get everybody you know involved so yeah so that was
kind of my introduction go though did you ever okay i need to know did you ever hook up with a girl
or are you not into that just guys what do you think so we would so at one of the parties we did i
guess it was a couple so yes it was another female another male so kind of i guess had a little
bit of a line going up so i did do some eating out a little bit which was different obviously a
completely different experience uh-huh so yeah so no that was fun that was one experience that i had
with a with another female yeah but so and but besides that did you do swapping i mean how far
into it did you get you just we did we did yeah yeah no we did what we did full swap
i was okay i was basically okay doing anything as long as you as long as he was in the room
yeah so full swap yeah so full swap i probably had another somebody else like me then the girl so
then when we had when we were playing with the couples that's when i got kind of tried it out with
the girl so that was that was something fun different toys always a lot of toys so playing um
well he mentioned that you were squirting in one of his episodes that he talked about so when
did you learn how to squirt you're this girl that didn't even jerk off till you're like 25 like
how did you learn how to squirt i'm 54 and still can't i'm so jealous tell me how
yeah so i learned first with him using a toy and now i can do it without using a toy wow
i feel like because you never really wired yourself in any way because you didn't really do
anything that you were just totally open to whatever and because i think that's how we do
wire ourselves our first couple experiences or what we're doing by ourselves a lot of times
were all of our experiences are with ourselves because everyone's like jerk it off because they're too
young to go out and really do think but because you didn't have any of that you were just so open
that i feel like oh first guy comes in he can make you squirt because you didn't know anything else
i don't know yeah really didn't i didn't know i feel like i was kind of like a sponge yeah i was
always like i think why i always had a problem is because when i was little i found my clip by accident
i swear there was i had a pencil in my hand and it went down there and it touched it and this
whole crazy thing happened i'm like what the fuck was that and then of course i kept doing it and
i always i didn't know i had another hole so i always play with my clip and so i wired myself so
much into a literal orgasm that it was way harder for me to know oh how to get off on something
being in a night and i think that that's what happens you do wire yourself certain ways but you
were so unwired because you were like so fresh and untouched that he was able to get in there and
just really work your body because you didn't really you weren't so fixated on your clip or like i
was because you were doing that yeah no that makes yeah that makes complete sense like i was very open
yeah to basically anything that he would do and it would be kind of surprising what my body
could do or would do because they didn't know to not do it not go there yeah i was
another thing with like more the bds i'm saying it was like i can really let myself go down the line
of pain yeah interesting which is interesting because if you would say that be like no like i
don't like pain but if you let yourself mentally get into that place it's it can be like amazing
what's a different type completely yeah it's so crazy your story and you're so interesting to
me because really you set the perfect stage by being a virgin up until your 25 for like you
said for all these things to be easy for you to accomplish and go there because you were in
experience and then you meet this first guy it's kind of crazy who's so open and i love that you
were open to it and it's so great that he was open to you that you could trust him to really go
and explore all of this stuff with him he really he did help you right i mean yeah no 100 percent
like and that's the thing like i knew just based on i knew that he was in this life style 100 percent
yeah extent that he was as like i don't want that as like my life partner yeah but we're great
friends and i trust when i feel comfortable with you this is kind of like a great setup because
i don't get mad at it or i didn't get mad at him when he would go off and do something because
like mentally already had things compartmentalized so it's like okay great like i can go and enjoy
these things as i'm not like worried about him yeah yeah and he he had told you he was with other
people from the gecko so you never had unrealistic expectations of the relationship did you ever
because you were with him for a while did you ever wind up copying feelings for him that were more
so than just oh you're my buddy that's helping me explore things yeah i mean that i mean that
i mean that that i mean i would say that that definitely yes short answer yes because i mean
that's also my first yeah that's why i think yeah right about your first so no there's definitely
feelings and caring for sure and then now after all of that playing in everything you was George
the first person you met after him or did you date a while before you met George no no it would have
been George okay so you leave this guy you guys break up what happened was it just like you went
your separate ways yeah it wasn't even anything yeah it wasn't anything like so severe it was just
kind of like a growing up car he got busy i got busy then George kind of came into the picture
and he was like okay i feel like we're kind of with George now so he was so rich i don't kind of
like feel like yeah so with George and he was very respectful and all of that so it's just more
of kind of a growing apart type thing because no if i'm with somebody i obviously wasn't going to
go play yeah yeah yeah no were you were free to tell George i mean because here you
are this girl that has this past that's pretty hardcore i mean i you have to wonder i
one of the first questions i asked George is like how long into your relationship with her did
she tell you because you know some guys would react some yeah totally some guys would react
negatively you know you really don't know were you nervous to tell him i was um wasn't sure what he
might think of me of course and then also wasn't sure again like how he felt because okay well
i don't want him to just think that i'm some girl we can go out and party with not just your little
unicorn either like i want to make sure that he was into me and that we had our relationship and
that we were good and that we were what each other wanted right because wasn't a lot of guys
actually would take that kind of information and take it to the extreme you don't know right how
someone wrote in a guy i'll think oh great she wants a fun here we go
i was one of the three cells yeah let's do this every day and before you know it they're rolling
like the other guy but you knew that that you that's not what you wanted so yeah that's scary so
what i know he told me you didn't bring it up for a really long time right yeah i mean i would say
at least six nine months two a year i was like yeah she knew she had you like that's
she waited to make sure you were locked in loved her can't go anywhere now she's going to tell you
and so what did you say to him and how did he react do you remember
i wish it was hello tough when they just talking about different experiences i mean we've always
had great sexual interactions experience like that is not something that's been lacking and it's
something that we feel open to kind of talk about what do you enjoy or yeah he's always open
about the poor knee watches so we're like oh you were at home and you work play so you know i had
a i had to watch a movie while you were on it i would have oh what did you watch so we always had
different to say that and then i think i just brought up like yeah i went to a house party before
and he's like what's that yeah just a bunch of people and it's really nice but you know
there's some playing involved oh my god so that i mean his his year it's pretty great up and yeah he
wanted to know everything and then started looking up everything about well wait how
we're gonna do this now too um and i was i felt since like he had never done anything never
three some never a party whatever which i think part of me may be not easily thought that well don't
like all guys at some point do something because like they're all that's all they think about
yeah yeah they just don't have it's is the problem is girls the problem is the girls don't want to do
that's the problem yeah so like he was kind of like no like i've never done anything oh so then
i was like well i feel like you need to i amazingly enough surprisingly enough and not all
these experiences that you haven't as a guy as well i feel like i kind of owe it to you to at
least try it yeah amazing so yeah so he started looking up different things that's like i don't want to
just meet with somebody random over the end or not i don't want to just go find a guy in a hotel room
no like i would rather find a house party because that's what i know or we could try like a club
yeah is why i feel like it's open we can observe we can lead i want to make sure that we're good
to kind of do whatever so he he was kind of
not pushing like it didn't feel pressure but he would bring it up regularly i'm like okay
like i need to do this all right you know he's sending me legs like hey i saw this
i was listening to this yeah he was smart he was not going to miss this window of opportunity okay
wait i got a green light yeah i'm gonna make this shit happen okay i don't want that to expire
yeah yeah yeah so finally it was his birthday and i'm like oh my goodness what do i get this guy
like year before we had gone on vacation out to la and i was like we can't go away this year
when am i going to do it i was like ah i can sketch i can plan for us to go to a party yeah and
surprise them so this is birthday whatever i'm like here we're going here and i just gave him the
address and we just pulled up to the club wow and i think he was i think he was pretty shocked that
i actually did that yeah he got him to a party yeah that's crazy that was the perfect gift
yeah so and that's what he said he's like that's one of my best gifts i'm like there we go
i did it and it was different for me too i had never actually done the club and it was kind of
he's looking to me to be like the experience one and i'm like oh yeah i did it but also this is
a little bit different too so we wound up having an amazing night we wound up playing we wound up
having others play with us so i was really glad with how the night turned out
yeah he told that's when he talked about you squirting oh she was squirting all over all these
guys came in i mean were you happy to be back in that environment was it something that now you
could never see yourself living without or is it something that you could give or take
yeah it's something that we kind of talked about too because i don't want to go to the extreme
that's what we do all we do is party like we have an amazing relationship an amazing sex like
without this i just want this to be an addition something we do i don't know what's the
month the couple times a year yeah and have amazing time together yeah in other words you're still
good yeah he explained that because i said do you feel like it made you guys a relationship
closer or any different he's like no not at all because we always have the best sex ever
and he kind of um you know explained it exactly like what you did and i think that's smart
it makes sense yeah but it is interesting because it is like for me and everybody probably has
a different experience but for me it's like mentally like you can just like all right i'm in this
space i'm in this environment and it's just like kind of like letting yourself go and it's
kind of liberating as you know what i'm here i'm here to have a good time yeah as long as he's good
and i'm good we're good yeah we're just gonna do you know do what we want to do yeah he mentioned
something he made a joke about oh little george doing this bad stuff i'm like what's great about
when you do like very naughty things with somebody that you're very close with it's not like naughty
naughty you know what i mean it's like you could be dirty and all that stuff but when you're with
you're doing it with someone that you really care about and it's not some stranger in an alleyway
there's no darkness to it you know what i mean that's what i think and i so i think that that's
great i mean how does like little nary that was homeschooled in a virgin i mean would you ever believe
that this would be in life no no way what about your friends are they does anyone know besides me
and all my listeners and george and your last guy and all the people at the parties
no no no because it is something i mean i think more people do it but it's so kind of
of a lot more people do it than anything you even know yeah i just think nobody would ever guess
you know with your background probably that this is where you would be like i even you right i
don't know no one hundred percent because yeah even kind of the introduction and exploration
for going out with this guy like i never thought that it would be something that i would enjoy
and still want to participate in right and it'd be a part of your life and zero kind of jealous
you're anything because you do feel differently about george and you did the other guy you're
in a real relationship with him and i would say that and that's kind of why i pointed it out with
with the other guy like i didn't care when he did his own thing yeah yeah yeah george george just
going off without me and doing his own thing that would probably bother me and that's something
where i said it was like i don't care if you're all couple swapping you're playing with the girl but
like when it's still be in the same space like i want to still be able to the eyes on you yeah yeah
that makes sense i know that we're still like experiencing this together right and then you had
one other experience right you went to was it a part what was the second experience again i just
it was still it was still a club it was a different club i haven't i haven't been able to find a
house party yet which i would like to i i'm still one thing to get to one because i do feel like
that was my favorite oh it just takes but we did go to another club and it's equally
pleasant experience a little bit different but the first time he he didn't play with anybody else
i guess i was the one who did most of the playing the first time it turned into a little bit of a gang
bang yeah that's what i called it i'm like that's how like a fucking gang bang
i want to lose five or six guys yeah and then the second time he was you know we started playing
together some more guys came over to reach me and then he was just kind of observing and then a
female came in he he interacted with her and i felt okay with that was there i was there so that
was good because that was something else new to us yeah yeah i was good and we kind of like
talked back where i was like no i was okay because we were still together you did your playing i
did my thing and then we came back yeah yeah and did you enjoy was it a turn on to see him with
the other woman or just it was just okay and you didn't feel any jealousy i didn't feel any
jealousy i think it was a little bit of a turn on because i was like hey i know you're making her
feel good because i know how i feel so i was like yeah that's kind of like yeah you enjoy yourself
that's like i yeah that's the way guys say they feel about when they're watching their girl that's
the pleasure in it and other women have actually said that also about their guy so yeah that makes
sense that that's what i've heard a lot i love this story it's so interesting you're a really
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