716 - GIRL TALK: Hot Female Fantasies and Layla's Naughty Realities

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All that information is in the description. Okay. Now today I have on Leila, Leila London, from the Curious Girl Diaries. She's one of my fav podcaster friends. We talk a lot. Today we're going to talk about fantasies. We were going to talk about Perry Manipaus and Manipaus and libido. That's something that I also want to talk about on a girl talk episode. So I will have her back on to talk about that. But in this episode we decided to talk about fantasies. Because I can't tell you how many times on my podcast fantasies and fantasy talk between couples have led to them living out really crazy things in reality. Being open about your fantasies can never really hurt. Whether you keep it as fantasies and it just adds to your sex life with your partner or you actually start to live them out after explaining them to your partner. It can only help Leila. So when that's lived out a lot of her fantasies. That's what her podcast Curious Girl Diaries is all about. She had some fantasies and she decided to go and live them out. She's done a lot more than I have. A lot of my fantasies that I talk about on here are super naughty and dirty and all that good stuff. But I don't think I'd ever live it out in real life. But I talk about the fantasies that I have. She talks about the fantasies that she has as well as the stuff that she's actually lived out in real life. She has a specific fantasy she has right now for a BBC. She's going to do that real soon. She also wound up telling me a story about one of her father's friends that she wound up sleeping with and having an affair with. And I'm like, oh my god, every time I tab Leila on my show, it leads to me hearing a story from her that I never heard before. I don't even know. She's told that story on her shelf. But she talks about here. But we do go through a lot of naughty hot fantasies that we both have. Whether you're a guy or girl, we all have fantasies, right? We put ours out there in this episode as well as talking about how fantasy talk is super important in a relationship. Like I said before, so many of the people who call in my show who are living really alternative lifestyles and are non-monogamous. It started out with them being open about their fantasies with their partner. A lot of fantasy talks, sometimes over time, as led to them living it out in reality. It's sometimes it doesn't. It doesn't always have to. A lot of my fantasies that I have, did I say this already? I probably would never live out in real life, but that doesn't matter. Because if you have a half of an imagination and you've got a cool partner that has an imagination too, you can really go there and just get to add and spice things up in the bedroom. So let's talk about fantasies. That's what we talk about here. We talk about hours. We talk about how it's important for you to have your own, as well as talk about them with your partner if you have one. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Leila. Hi, Leila London. Welcome back to the Strictly Non-Mist Podcast. How are you doing today? I'm fantastic. I cannot wait to jump into today's topic. This is going to be so much fun. Yeah, this is your good idea. I was like, oh, let's do a girl talk episode and talk about Leila. Like, let's talk about fantasies. I'm like, oh, what a great idea. We're going to talk about fantasies. Female fantasies, right? I think that we'll start there. Yeah. I've got a lot of guy fantasies. We'll talk about that. And then I figure we'll talk about how like fantasy talk with your partner can really change the game. I know I've heard it on my show a million times. So we'll eventually talk about that too. But we'll start off talking about our fantasies, right? You're going to tell me your top three. And I'm going to tell you my top three, right? Is that how we're going to start? I don't know. What do you think? Yeah. Yeah. We're just going to jump in with fantasies. So what is your kind of go to the top three or even just the top two of what you lean on right now? Like what's rolling around in the in the sexy recesses of your brain? You mean like my like little fantasies? It's oh my god. I feel like it would be so lame to say I have like my little cuck queen fantasies because that's what I always talk about. But. Yeah. I didn't know this. I didn't know this about you. You have. No, you do know. Don't you? That's right. Yeah. Talk about it with Wio more from maybe. Maybe. Yeah. I don't think you've gotten into the cuck queen stuff with me. Although that's a hot one. Why? Okay. I like that too. Talk about that. Let's break that down. No, to me like. I mean, seeing a guy with another girl to me. I think that that's just a turn on. I don't know my guy with another girl. I've always been super jealous. But I've realized you could turn that jealousy and just turn on. And I mean, listen, I've never done it for real yet with the guy. But I'm definitely down to open. I'm definitely open to trying it. And that's what I would do. But the fantasy of it is definitely hot just to be able to sit back and watch my guy with someone else. I'm very visual. Like a guy always have them. I like to see sex while it's happening. Like I always like to fuck in front of a mirror and do things like a very visual or like videotape stuff. So for me, sitting there watching a guy or a couple even. I mean, that's something that I think about a lot lately. As well as the opposite. Having somebody watch me like fuck their husband. Like, you know, the cuck queen watched me. Fuck their husband. Like, I like that kind of three way action experience. I do too. I like my three way with with a power dynamic mixed in. What do you mean? Well, meaning that like when I say the power dynamic, somebody's in control. So whether or not you're when you come in and you're that when you're doing this for a cuck queen and you're if you're doing it, you're like the cut. What do they call you? The cupcake. And so, but you're kind of taunting her a little bit. And I've done that before I work. I like taunting taunting the primary partner and being the feed that's the female and the equation and being like, watch him fuck me. Like, just this is what you're man. Your man is going to put that big dick inside me. You know, just like stuff like that and just telling her how good it feels while she can't have it. You know, and kind of keeping her a little bit denied. There's stuff. There's elements. I mean, I just love that. I don't know why I love the I love to throw in a power dynamic and when it comes to a three way. Well, you are a little dumb and you did have an actual couple that you would do that in real life with, right? I mean, that's not even just a fantasy for you. No, I've done that. Yeah, that I have lived that out and it's hot. It really is. I don't know what it is about. I just liked always. I just liked always looking at her knowing like she's watching her. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I mean, I just, and I'm kind of makes me feel powerful. I was hot. I loved it. Yeah, it's super naughty. I just think I like that whole dynamic. What is one of your fantasies you're thinking about lately? Yeah. So, okay. So it's along with the cucking, but it's more just it's me cucking a guy. Right. And because my, my submissive, my little submissive boy, Nico. Right now, one of them is like watching me get fucked while he has to wear his caught cage. And while I may be out and so I bring in a guy with like a just a huge dick. And he has to sit there while he's all caged up and he's got a big dick, but it's going to look when you put those cages on him, they look small and pathetic. And so I think it's just like the fact that he is down with that and wants to do that. I'm just like, you bet. I will fricken. I'll lay it on thick. I'll definitely humiliate him a little bit and. But you haven't done it yet. Meaning so your fantasy is to have him count in the cage watching you with another guy. Yes. That's a kind of a shared, that's a shared fantasy of ours, but definitely and even another partner of mine who I'm going to see over Thanksgiving. And he, we were just talking the other day. He said we need to make this happen. He wants to watch another guy fuck me. And he wants then when he wants to go to either come inside me or come on me and then be able to look it off. We send the guy away and he gets to look it up. But he wants to watch a guy just fuck the shit out of me every every aspect every element to make out all the way to getting up close and personal on this guy's railing me. So your fantasies are like going to be lived out next month. I feel like sometimes I always worry sometimes with fantasies because it's just oh, there's one thing, something being a fantasy, right? And it's so hot. But there is a kind of post nut clarity. Some I think guys call it that after they come here like what the fuck did I just do? Where you're like oh, this fantasy like if I really lived it out in reality like how would I feel afterwards like I never did two guys at once. But it was a hot fantasy of mine. Like I would mock up DP with guys right with a toy while they were having sex with me. But I always was like oh, but if I did that in real life, how would I feel afterwards? But I think because you're living out these fantasies these are with guys that you actually know that you're close with. It's a different story. And that's what's great about having a partner to do things with because I feel like there's less of that. Oh my god, what the fuck that I do if you're just you and a stranger that you picked up on Craigslist like back in the day. Then if if you're doing something like really naughty and kinky because I like that stuff that not you're the better like I'm into that kind of stuff. But I have to be with somebody that I really like and I care about and they're right there with me. Whereas to do it with a total stranger like two strange guys I could never I don't know. I wouldn't feel right about it for me. I know so it's that's a strange thing. Okay, I'm sort of on the edge with that like I get the yes, you know, you want at least one person like when there's three in your three some to be kind of on your team. Do you want to do want to be the odd men out and then there's other times where I'm just like you know what I just want to do. I just want to be like completely dirty, rontian slutty and just just basically do like the guys are doing but they're they don't say it on some of these apps. Not all of them but some of them were just they just want to hook it. They just want a one and done. They don't even need to know your name and part of me sometimes feels like that's a fantasy as well. Like just just doing just just doing them dirty like a total one off given them the wrong name a burner number. I love that. Go fuck his brains out and and and then that's it. You burn his number and he can never contact you again. You disconnect from him on the app and it's like, you know what? Fuck you. I just masturbated on your deck. I just used you. You were my dirty little fuck toy. Yeah. That's a little dumb in you. But I love it. Listen, I don't know that I could roll like that but I love when a woman can because it's so anti women behavior. Right. A lot of times women have to know a guy. We just are different than guys. That fantasy that you just talked about. I just want to fucking use you and calm all over you. Let's do that all the time. Let's do it. I know. It's just the way that it is. So I always appreciate a fucking girl that rolls like that. Like I would high five you. I don't know if I could get to that place and not to say that. No, listen, not to say that every guy I fucked I loved. I could not like a guy and fucking use him for sex, right? But I have to know him on some level like a friend. I had very long term booty calls all my life. That's the way I am. But like I said, I always do admire a girl like you that could take that plunge and just goes out and use a guy and doesn't even care. And actually could get off on that anonymity because a lot of my fantasies do revolve around. Oh, being in a hotel bar and just meeting a fucking guy and just like going up and fucking him and never talking to him again. Or I used to have one where like, oh, I'm in the hotel like a motel. And then the guy at the front comes to help me with something and I'm like, I fuck him. And it's just like a real slutty. Just a fucking like you fucking horror kind of situation. What I ever do that in real life. Oh, my God. I can't tell you how many showers I'd have to take if I fuck the guy in the motel. And I can't do it in real life. But it's like a hot dirty fantasy to get off on, you know what I mean? Oh, that's good. I see what you don't see and that's blue. Oh, that's easy. There, this blue layer should be there. And then there's also one. That's good. I don't know, I mean. There's, so for me, like when I get into that mode, Kathy, I'm like, I'm very it's feels very predatory. I like it. It feels, I feel very powerful. And I'm just like, I love it because I feel like I'm flipping the script on a guy. It's totally. It's a Trojan horse in a way, right? They, they're, they're just going to walk right through the door because you're presenting as a sex positive female. And they're just going to be like, well, they'll show up for that. And then the second you just have your way with them, fuck their brains out. And then you're like, here's your hat, what's your hurry? Get the fuck out. I'm done with you. There's just something. I don't know. It's, it's too sick and twisted, but there's that little fantasy, you know, is, is fun. And I, I, I have lived, lived it out very closely, but it's been a long, long time. But I, I do get off on that power trip a little bit. Yeah, fuck you. Get out. You're okay. It was average. Let me finish the job now. Yeah. But I think that that's what makes everyone's sort of fantasies their own because everyone is very different, right? Like, I could admire you for having the fantasy, but I don't have that in me. Like, that's not my thing, right? But it is yours. And it's interesting because you have, listen, you started your podcast career. It's sort of living out and checking things off your bucket list. So you're kind of like more ballsy than me in that. You took a lot of your fantasies and lived them out in real life. Like, you've done more than I have, really. Yeah. And as far as crossing the line of fantasy to reality, right? Like, I used to fantasize when I was like fucking my booty call guy that like then his friend would come over and fuck me. But I never did that in person. And I don't know that I ever would. Yeah. But yet you have checked awful, like you have lived out a lot of your fantasies, right? Yes. Yes. But do you know, do you have any like fantasy? Are you fantasizing about anything like that you that kind of goes along with it, craving? Like, I'm right now I have one going on that say it, say it, go there. Give me some stories. I'm craving the race play and the like BBC right now. I do not know why all of a sudden something switched in my brain because there's been this guy that I met a while back. And he showed up with his silky like workout long, almost like basketball shorts on. Do you know what I'm talking about? With no underwear. And I could see his dick print. His, his limp dick print through his shorts. And if that's what it looks like, limp, I'm like, oh my god. And I can't help it. Lately, I've been feeling like a size queen. Like I just, I want to go seek out some BBC and just being part of it's the race thing like that it's naughty. I shouldn't do it. And, and there's those thoughts. And then there's just, I just want to see that really, really big, thick, thick donut anatomy. That's what I want right now. Oh, yeah. And listen, I think fantasies and what you're into. It's kind of like food. I don't know. Sometimes I'm like, all I want is like this kind of food for this kind of months, right? Like you just click into something and it takes up all your time and all your thoughts. I get it. There was once a remind me of a fantasy that I had it because we were like, it was literally this happened in real life. But I, the fantasy came after and then how it goes with your whole size queen thing that we were. It was great adventure. I remember this like clear as day. We were in the parking lot looking for a parking spot in real life. This is real life, right? Looking for a parking spot and we drove past this guy. I mean, and he was old and busted, but he was wearing these shorts. And he had the outline of the biggest dick I have ever seen in my fucking life. Okay, I never. I don't like to stare, right? You had to stare. No, I mean, we just passed him by, but I used him as jerk off material. And my fantasy that I lived out that I would jerk off to that was super hot was that. So I go into great adventure after seeing that guy. And then I tell my friends, I forgot something in the car. And then I go out and I find that guy. And then I fuck him because I just could not, not have that big cock. Just strictly used him for that big dick. Fuck me. My friends don't know like I gotta have it. And I use that scenario a lot because I was clicked into that whole. Oh my god. I want to be filled up by the biggest dick ever. You know, I don't have that fantasy now anymore, but that's where you're at. You're going to go get your BBC. I know you are. I am. I'm going to. I'm not kidding. I'm like, I'm going to text this guy. I feel so bad because. Why? Sort of blown him off several times. Now all of a sudden, something is clicked in my brain. I've been watching a bunch of BBC porn. That's my go to. Interracial. And I don't know like that's where I'm at right now. And I just really, really want this kind of just tick me down. And I'm hoping he'll still talk to me because I'm blowing him off. So he's not going to care. He's just going to finally get what he fucking wants. Okay. I know that he's going to be cool. I don't think he's going to care. I mean, you know, I don't think he's, you know, he's probably not going to care either. But I, I feel bad, right? But now I'm like, all of a sudden, I'm like, okay, you. You're my flavor to sure right now. You're what's like rolling around in my cave woman brain. And let's get it on. But because I just want, I really, I want to be totally filled up. And I want to look down and see that color contrast and just all these things about it that just turned me on. He's, he's going to do it. And he's tall and he's big. And I just built athletic. Well, I think if you go into that conversation with him when you invite him over and just be super honest and be like, I know I blew you off so many times and I feel like you're going to be so mad at me. But all I've been thinking about is your big fucking cock inside of me and been jerking off to it for so long he's going to be speeding over to your house. I know. He's telling the truth. He's going to, he's going to forgive all your flakiness. Tell him the fucking truth that you're just, you can't even stop until you get that shit. He's going to die. Precom is going to be there when he gets over to your house. I don't know. Yeah, what it is. Now it only, the only thing would be better is if Nico were watching. And then he had to clean up, he had to be on cleanup duty. That would be kind of like the ultimate fantasy right there. But first I think I want to, honestly, first I just want to fuck this guy like all to myself. Literally, I just want to ride him. I mean, like you can be on top with that big dick. Because you have more control. Yes. I love it. It's, I won't last very long. I'm not going to kid you. Like when I have a, when I have a really, really big dick inside me. And they hit that, when they hit the A spot, not with not so much with the poking, but with just the sheer pressure of being full all the way down to the end there. Holy because their dicks are so girthy. Oh, I won't that. If I, when I start feeling that, I'll, I'll be literally be a two pump chump at that point. Yeah, totally. But it's okay, because I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll get it back and then I'll ensure I'll have like several. But the first one, I won't even be able to hold it off to my kidding. And then listen, I mean, there's nothing more than a little, that, that a cock loves than a guy who is bigger than him fucking his girl. So, you know, to make that second fantasy come true, which is your little cock, a cock cage stop watching you with a guy that's gigantic. I mean, that's like his, his dream too. He's going to be right there with you. And why is it, I know why it's so interesting. Why is it that the cucks they love? They love a huge big black dick. I mean, like, why do they single out the black eyes? They're like, I want to see you with a huge black dick. Well, listen, I think the black thing isn't necessarily black. I mean, sometimes it is the color contrast, but a lot of times it's just that I just think it's a fact that black eyes have bigger dicks than white guys. But I think a lot of it is the bigger dick than them. And they don't even have to be cucks and into humiliation to like that. Even my regular stag guys who want to see their girl with another guy, they prefer to be bigger. And really what they say, because I've asked them specifically, what is it about that? Do you like to be humiliated? Do you want to have the smaller dick? Like, why do you want a guy bigger than you? Because you would think that's very counterintuitive than of what you would think a guy would want, right? But they say it's because a big part of what they're into seeing when their girl is fucking another guy is her pleasure. And she is just pleasure more, sorry to say, when she's so filled up, because like you said, from a female standpoint, when you have that huge thing inside of you, things are being touched upon that aren't touched upon by regular dicks. And so your orgasm is is more and there is more pleasure. And so that's what they get off on seeing. It's not like, oh, they want to feel inferior. You're a little cock wants to feel that. And there are a lot of guys that are into that. But even the guys that don't want it want to see that bigger dick. I think whether it's black or white because they want to see their girl being pleasure. And unfortunately, if a girl is very relaxed and turned on, if she takes away bigger dick, she's going to be more pleasure by it. I mean, unless she has a very small vagina, which some women do and they just can't handle it. But most of the time, unfortunately, it kind of takes you over the edge, a bigger one compared to us. It does. It does. And so like when I watch the porn, I specifically watch them, the models and their reaction. And you can tell, I can tell by the look on their face that they're overwhelmed by how big this dick is. And I can see, I can see exactly what they're feeling. And I'm like, oh, girl, I know that feels so good. And you just, you can see it. There's something about it when you're, when you're, when you're stuffed full. And like every corner and crevice is full of dick, it just feels amazing. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, totally. But I feel like once you get that fill, I don't know. Like eventually I stopped jerking off to the guy in great adventure with the big dick that fantasy eventually went. And then like other fantasies come to play. And I think that that's like how it is probably for everybody. Like you get something in your mind. And it's like a hot fantasy. When I was younger, I used to have this thing where I would go on vacation with my best friend and I like fuck her father. Oh. No, but I wasn't 14 or anything like it was more like that being super naughty doing something that no one knew while I was on vacation. It was like that whole kind of cheating with someone fantasy. But like it's nothing I would ever do in real life because I would feel horrible about it. But it was just like a thing that I used to think of. But it wasn't like an illegal thing, right? But that was like the thing that got me offered a long time. And then it changes, right? Don't your fantasies change a lot? Yeah. So you want to hear this? Do you just remind me of do you know my worst, notiest older man. This wasn't a fan. Well, he was a fantasy, but then it was a reality. Oh, I love that. You take yours to reality. Tell me the whole story. I got to get this. I had an affair with my dad's business partner in real life in real life. But wait, was it a fantasy before were you like thinking about this fucking guy or were just fucking reality here? I was his babysitter. What do you mean you were his babysitter? How were you your father? Oh, you babysitter of his kids. His kids. I would be. Yeah. I mean, because I've known him since he's this is my dad's business partner. No, he's no me since I was five. And, and, and, and then at some point, we got attracted to each other. And then he would come into this restaurant where I worked that was very popular. And it just, the, all of a sudden was like, God, I thought he was fucking hot and sexy. How did you guys cross the line? Well, he did. I mean, him obviously. I didn't. I'm at the time. I was happy to have given him the red light. I'm the green light. I mean, how does the guy. Of course. So tell me how it happens. I mean, I don't even really remember all the details, but he would just, it was started with where I worked and he would come in and he would flirt with me and give me a compliment. And I just fucking loved it. And I, we just, all of a sudden, I, this really, I knew it was naughty. I knew it was wrong. He would make me shopping in his 450 as the convertible. And I jump in there and be like, Oh, do you have a kiss for daddy? You would say that or that's what you were thinking. He would say no, he would say that literally. It was twisted. He was the first guy that ever tied me, tied me to a bed just. You got to slow this down. Okay, because I'm not, I don't feel like I'm getting the story like in the right way. I mean, because this is like a fantasy, right? Like my fantasy that I just told you, but this is reality and people love to do this. This is real. This is not what happened. Yeah, like the young girl that fucks her father's friend. Can you tell the story better? You're just to blew through it. I think she'll live better. You fucking tell the batter. Okay, so you're working at this place. He's sitting on you now before though. Okay, let me all help you. Okay. This is what I do on my show. This is your guy that for a long time, right? You said you know him since you're younger. You're going over his house. You're babysitting his kids. Now, do you ever remember looking at him and thinking like, Oh, he's hot or anything like that? Yes. Yes. I started feeling attraction to him or just thought he was sexy. Now, was he married? Did you know his wife too? He was, yeah, so when I was, when I babysat when I was like 15, 16, he was married and they got divorced. Okay, but you knew the wife. You knew him growing up. You would go over. You know, we thought he was kind of cute. Yeah, yeah. Okay. These are friends and business colleagues of my parents. Yeah. So he now, did you ever get the sense that he was like kind of flirting with you at all? Because I feel like sometimes with as women, we get vibes. We could feel chemistry sometimes with someone that maybe is unspoken. Was there anything like that before he started coming into that restaurant? No, I mean, I know I never that I picked up on it. I just always, I mean, I felt, I felt I had a crush when I would, when I would babysit or when we'd have family gatherings and he was there. I felt like I had a crush, but I didn't feel like I didn't feel like it was reciprocated. Okay. I just started one sided. So that was fine. I would like masturbate all these little fantasies about him. So you would. So you were fantasizing before it became reality. Now, when he started to flirt, were you like nervous? Because like I sat like we've said a million times in this episode already. I mean, there's one thing about having the fantasy about fucking your father's guy, your father's friend. But it's another thing if it's actually going to happen. Like all of a sudden, I'd be really like nervous. I don't know like how when he started to kind of give you the hint that this is something that actually could happen. Like how did you feel about it? I just, I mean, you know, you got it. You remember when we felt like when you were 17, I was fucking thrilled. I mean, here was this hot, sexy, mature man, wealthy man who wanted to was paying attention to me. And it just, I felt this wasn't a boy like high school boy. This was a man. And I was just like, oh, that's yeah. So you were excited. Oh, fuck yeah. I was, yeah, I was very excited. Okay. And then how did that first time come to be? All you got to the point where you're like, yeah, we're like tying each other up and chill. But what was like that? What, where did you, where did that first time happen? And that didn't happen. Do you remember? Yes. Okay. I feel like I'm in the hot seat. You are. I know. Yeah. So I, I don't know. I was after work after after the restaurant closed and I somehow ended up over at his house. I don't remember. I mean, this was a while ago, right? So somehow we ended up at his house and he played the piano and I always liked that. And so he was playing the piano and. I think I was sitting next to him and somehow we just, I think he started kissing me and then we just. Ended up on the living room floor and. Started going for it. Did you fucking the first time? Yeah. Wow. Crazy. How long did you see him for after that? I mean, you said he eventually tied you up and chill. Like how many times? Yeah. Yeah. So we, we were on going for about six months until somebody told my. What? Yes. Tell my parents got wind of it. Boy. I mean, forget about, forget about, forget about my dad. Like my mother literally threatened him within an inch of his life and she. You don't fuck with her. She. Oh my God. I mean, she threatened him. So you never saw him again, but you did get to fucking all that time. I mean, that must have been super hot. I mean, the whole time was he great. Was it a great experience? It honestly was. He was obviously because, you know, older men are great for. Helping younger women figure out their bodies and also. I feel like making them feel comfortable. I don't know why, because you just, this is almost somebody. Sort of mentoring through you, mentoring you through this process. And versus a younger guy where you guys are both fumbling around. Neither one of you really know heads or tails. So yeah, I think that's what my baby, that's not my baby sitter fantasy. That's what I think me sleeping with my best friend's father fantasy was all about being with that much older guy. When I was younger, I wasn't with a lot of older guys. To me, older and most of my boyfriend's were about five years older, but that's not really way older. So I think a big part of it was that big age gap and having someone so much older. That like you said is so experienced. It is a very different kind of vibe. I mean, you got to experience that when you were younger. You lived my fantasy out in reality. Yeah. Yeah. And it was a very fun, for me, it was a very fun experience. Even though I know how awful that was, and like such an awful thing to put my parents through, like, I still, when I think about that, I still get this little devious spark and smirk on my face like, I've never regretted it. I probably should. What's most important is to not do things that you feel regretful for. And that is different for everybody, right? I remember I have a really good hot fantasy that I have that I could never do in real life because I wouldn't feel right about it. But plenty of people do it and they feel totally fine with it. And that's cool. Like I said, I just think that the most important thing is that. What is it? Oh, it's like being an escort. I think a lot of girls have that fantasy. I could do it. I could do it. You could do it in reality. Yeah. I could. I could just once. I wouldn't, like, I think I could do it just once just to have that. Maybe the guy gives me a dollar or something. A dollar? No, no, no. I want $2,000. I want a lot of money. Oh, no, I want high-end escort. I'm obsessed with, I don't know. I'm like obsessed with these stories of these old courtesans. Like, is that what they call them? You know, these old women that took like really wealthy men to the fucking cleaners through just knowing the power of sex and just using these really powerful men. I think that's working with a domination fantasy. Mine comes into play because I think that that's a power move. So for me, it would be like, yeah, just taking a lot of cash. Not a fucking dollar. No. I mean, I would have fucked that guy in the great adventure for a dollar with a big dick. But no, if I'm going to, in my, in my escort fantasy, it's a high-end experience where I'm just fucking someone for the cash. But I do think a lot of girls have that fantasy in reality. You would never do it. But I do think, for me, I don't know that would I go through a hotel, set it up with a total stranger, and then fuck him, and then take his money and feel okay. And it's not about, because I think it's right or wrong. I don't get off on like just total stranger sex, but other people do. And I think that that's okay. I think it's like everyone's built very differently. Yeah. Now, I want to jump back to your cut, your, your overall cut. That I will do. And that's I would like to live out in real life, but go on. You're anybody that you wouldn't want to live like. So I love that fantasy too. I'm about that as well. I can totally get into that being actually, you know, being the cut keen or cut queen. Sorry, cut queen. And I, I just don't know, but there's certain guys I would see myself doing that with. And others, I'd be like, fuck, no, I would not share that guy for a million bucks. So what? No. I don't have a nation for that or is it everybody's equal opportunity with you? No, I mean, I used to listen, like I said, I am not in love with a guy right now. So it's very hard for me to say, oh, with that guy, would he be off limits? I, I don't think so. I would hope to get to the place where I can fall in love with a guy and feel the same way that I did with any of my booty calls where I would like. My, my one booty call, Tommy, who was the host of my show in the beginning. I fucked him for seven years. He was my go to booty call. I let him. I let him wait. I didn't know this. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're the guy. Yeah. Everyone knows. Yes. I was for fuck. Yeah, all the time. He was like my main booty call for seven years. But people knew that because we used to tell our story because this was like a guy that never fucks. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So everyone knows he was one of my long term booty calls. I have a lot of successful long term booty calls. He was one of them. I fucked him for a really long time. And I used to pitch him. I used to pawn him off to my friends. I've pawned up a lot of guys that I fucked to my friends and let my friends fuck him. So yeah, if I'm into someone sexually, I could care less if they fuck anybody else. Like I've pitched them to him. So no, I never have anyone off limit. But in reality, if I fell in love with a guy tomorrow, right off the bat, would I be able to pitch him to one of my friends? Probably not. I wouldn't let one of my friends fuck a guy that I really liked. I wouldn't pass on like I do with my booty calls. But my ultimate fantasy and reality would be that I'm with a guy. I'm totally in love with him. But just for sex and for fun, I would allow him to fuck another girl in front of me. Someone that we would pick up together or find whatever. I don't see anyone being off limit in my real life with my booty calls. Guys that I liked just to fuck that were great. But I would share them with my friends. I wouldn't care. Because they were, you know, I don't care. I didn't like them. So like I said, I wouldn't pitch. I wouldn't pawn off a boyfriend who I really cared about to a friend. But I would do that maybe with a stranger. That's my ultimate fantasy that I want to live in reality. I haven't done it. But I would definitely do it. But I think that I would be totally fine with him. Yeah. Yeah. Who's off danger? Who's off limits for you? There's one, I mean, there's, I can just one guy. And why? Because you like him or because he's so great that you wouldn't want to share him. I mean, what's the reason? All of it. All of it. Interesting. Okay. I'm like very possessive over him. And I'm not over anybody else. Yeah, that's interesting. Do you like him? Like him? Maybe. Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, absolutely. I fucking love this guy. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. So that's a whole different story. So he, so you might not with him, you wouldn't want to be non-monogamous. You would want to be monogamous with him. I don't know. I mean, I don't, it's weird. I don't know how, how, I don't really know how we would work that out. Because maybe we just have to play separately. I wouldn't be able to see it. No, but I mean, listen, I think this goes in line with what we're talking about with fantasies. I mean, sometimes just because you have fantasies doesn't mean that they always work in reality. And I feel like. No. Maybe that I self is my favorite saying. I love people who honor how they feel. I think that that's super important. I think when I was younger, I used to try to do things that I wasn't able to do. To try to make someone else happy or try to make something work. And it would be just awful for myself. But I think if you know something to be true for yourself, like you said it for some reason. With this guy, I'm fucking possessive. You know what? You have to honor that and don't ever fucking try anything with that guy. You know what I mean? Because that's just how you feel. It doesn't matter why or how or how who it makes sense to. It's just the way you are. And I think that that's totally fine. I have a lot of girls on my show who do the hot wife thing for their guys. But they're like, I don't want my guy to be with another girl. And they always say, but I feel so bad about it. It's like, you don't have to feel bad. Your guy doesn't fucking care. That's the way you feel. I high five you that you're taking care of your own self and saying like, you know what? You like this. And I'll do it for you. But I don't want that. That wouldn't make me feel right. I would be too jealous. And that's fine. And people on YouTube go off on those girls. But I'm like, whatever. So they should do it just for the guy if he doesn't care. And he's okay with it. Why should she do something that she doesn't feel right about? And I think that that's really super helpful. And that's why fantasies are sometimes good just to be fantasies. Because maybe in reality, you don't feel like you could do that. And that's okay. I think fantasies are great. I think a couple could talk about fantasies. Because I was always into role playing with guys. I have a very like vivid imagination. And if I felt comfortable role playing with a guy. And I had a couple booty call guys that they would role play with me really well. And some that were terrible at it. I wouldn't even bother. But you could really, I mean, if you're really imaginative and create like, you could really create the real thing in your fucking mind and have so much fun and do crazy, naughty, dirty things with each other in your fucking fantasy mind role playing. And never do anything else. And that could just add so much to your sex life, right? Because you could do it. If you could go there with your mind and your fantasies and open about up about that stuff with your guy and role play, why not? Casey was just on my show and she told me something that her and her guy do. But they take it a step further. They make their fantasy a reality. What they do is they go to bars and Casey goes and says at the bar. And she flirts with other guys while her guy watches. And their goal is for her to pick up the guy. Go home fucking while he watches. But I'm like, why can't a regular couple, right? Who wants to live out that fantasy, but never maybe have it happen in real life. Because they want to remain monogamous with which I think most people are that way, right? You go to a bar with your partner. Live out that fantasy. But just don't cross that line. Let your girl or your guy go to the bar and you watch them hitting on people. And then stop it right there when it gets to the point where there's numbers exchange or anything. And then go home and pretend that she actually took the guy home and fucked him. And then live the rest out in fantasy. Like that could be super fun and super hot. And you don't even have to really, like I said, pick up the person or go to that other level where you're actually bringing a third person in. But you could mock it all up until even that you go to the bar and do it. Why not? That's fucking fun. Right? Yes. Absolutely. Or even just go, I find, I find what's really good for couples is to two things. It's just kind of a basic rudimentary thing, watching porn together. Because then you can watch things together and see what's turning the other person on. And then fantasize about it. And again, like you don't have to do any of this stuff. The other thing that I find is really good for couples that I did. That I did in the beginning that really just opened so many doors and sparked so many creative ideas and additional fantasies was go take your partner and go to a sex club. You don't have to do anything. You can just be there to observe, but just be willing to go together and check out the scene. And you're going to, you're going to be surprised at what you find and what turns you on. And definitely something that you didn't think would turn you on probably will. But you just get to experience it together. And you know, worst case thing is you, even if you don't feel like letting other people watch you or being affectionate in the club, you go home. You're going to be so horny for each other. You're going to go home. You're going to talk about it. You're going to be fantasizing. There's going to be a lot of sexy talk while you're in the act. And then from there, at some point, you maybe feel comfortable enough to hatch a little fantasy together and do it. But the sex clubs, I think, are great because they're non-threatening. And when you go with your partner, people are very respectful and nobody's going to touch you. But you can just watch everything going on and it's super erotic. Yeah, listen, and I can't tell you how many times that I have heard stories. I have heard stories that start out with either what I said, whereas people are just talking about it, or what you said, people are just watching porn together, or what you just said before, where they just went to a club just to observe. And these stories ended with these people actually living out their fantasies in real life, like now being hot-wifing and cock-queen-ing and having three sons and all that stuff. And that's why I think fantasies spoken out loud with each other and shared is the best way to get the ball rolling. Like a domino effect. You might hit that domino and nothing else comes of it, but you're still going to have more fun, right? Because you're living out your fantasies, or maybe it's going to lead to going to the swingers club. And maybe when you're there, you're so horny, you fucking a friend of other people and then you realize you're exhibitionists. And then before you know it, the next time you go, you do something else. I mean, that happens all the time, so you never know where it leads. Now, I know that's what I mean. If you just show up and if you're just open, that a lot will happen. That's kind of been my, that's really been my motto throughout this whole process. Just be open-minded. And open with your partner, though, too. Yes, absolutely. But it's fun. That's some of the funnest stuff I've found. Like some of my best memories are just when a partner and I go and we're, it's like a little kid. You're just, you're going to experience something new. You're going to do it together. It's going to be bonding no matter what. And, and, and it starts just open doors and help you both. You're getting sexually charged up and then you're getting ideas and you're creative. And you're both feel very comfortable in that moment to start expressing it. And it just leads to some very hot things. I've never had a bad experience come out of going to a club with a sex partner and. And just right, living out your fantasy. And when we agreed, we're just here to observe. We already agreed on hard limits and it's just being very conservative. Like it's a fact-finding mission. Let's just go and see what's interesting. Right. Yeah, no, I think it can never hurt. And what I really recommend to people, because I think it's way harder to start fantasizing and putting your fantasies out with a partner that you've been with for a very long time and you never have told them. You're a little deepest, darkest secrets, right? Yeah. But there are a lot of books, apps, there's so many ways to bring that into a relationship that you've been in for a long time, right? Because how do you all of a sudden tell your partner like, oh my god, I've been secretly fantasizing about hooking up with women all the time. I never told you. I think it's very scary. So I think it's always best to start this kind of talk in the beginnings. When your thing is sex is super hot and charged, be honest about what you're into. To talk about your fantasies, put it out there so you could really see if you guys are on the right page. And I think that a lot of times, a lot of couples that I hear that are very successful of getting into alternative kind of lifestyles, it's because they were very open with their partner right from the get-go about what they were into. Whatever it was, be super open about that kind of stuff. Because I think it's harder when you've been with someone for a long time. All of a sudden I'd be like, oh, by the way, this is what I'm into. And it doesn't make sense. You'd think, oh, it'd be easier to be honest with that person. But not if you've been not really being open about your naughty fantasies with them since the get-go. But if you're open right from the get-go, I think it makes it a lot easier. And that's not to say you have to be open and say, hey, I want to be non-monogamous and fuck other people this whole time. Just start out talking about your fantasies or what you're into and watching porn together and being super open like you said. Yes. And also, I think you also said something. You said, you don't want them to know that you've been like having all these naughty fantasies. This whole time or hiding all these naughty fantasies. A lot of times, I mean, for me, a lot of this stuff, I'm sure for you as well. My fantasies sort of come and go and they've evolved over time. When I was first with somebody, if I'd been with somebody married for, let's say, 10 years, I mean, 10 years ago, 99% of the stuff was not on my radar. So you, I feel like our sexuality is just like us as human beings. I mean, it grows and evolves. Yeah, that's true. We're not the same person we were 10 years ago, just out there in the world, public facing, and we're not the same, you know, as we sexual, our sexuality is changed as well. And so different things will pop in there based on whatever experience or small little subtle things he spark it. Yeah, that's true. So that's why I wanted to do the actual episode. And that's what we're going to do next, girl talk. You're going to come on and we're going to do the Perry Manopause Manopause thing. Because I think that a lot of women in their 40s really start to get like, hornier than they've ever been, and they do start putting out a lot of their secret things because they're just like so interested in sex like they haven't been in so long. I know. It's going to test to that. Yes, we're going to talk about that. And I think that why not then just bring that shit up? Like you said, it's not like, oh, this is what I've been hiding from you all this time. And so this is what's coming up for me right now. And I want to fucking tell you about it because I can't help it on the hornier than ever, right? So yeah, you're right. It's not like it's something you've been hiding forever. Because things do just come into play and things change over time. Like, I don't think I have my S-quart fantasy recently or some of these fantasies were from a long time ago. It's whatever you're in the mood for. Yeah. Well, I have one. So I've got one more that sort of like pops in there. And it does have to do it. And it's mostly geared towards my sub Niko. And he is so fun because the more the more we talk about things like the more he's doing, the more he's revealing fantasy wise. And he, I mean, I'm shocked. It's funny. These guys will come on and say, yeah, I mean, I just like this cock cage thing. That's my thing. And then over time, they just reveal more and more and more, which is fantastic. That's what you want to pull out of a submissive. Let's see how far, like how wild are your fantasies. Let's really dig around in there. But I mean, he's, he wants me to, he wants a sex room. And he wants to be a full on like service slave type sub. And he's hardcore. And, and also just a little bit, a little bit of showing interest in like the specification, putting him in girls clothes and things like that. And, and I'm like, it's just kind of expanding for him. And I'm, I never thought that that would be interesting to me either. But all of a sudden, I'm like, I can't, I'm all about that. The thought of some guy just like literally servicing my pussy on demand. While he's wearing panties. While he's wearing panties. And then when he's done, fucking do my dishes, motherfucker. Oh my god. Clean your house. They like to clean houses too. Just so you know. I know. Like, you really are a fucking dumb. Is this so nice? But does this, does this just, you almost come on? Is this too good to me? No. You want to just worship my pussy. Yeah, yeah. And, and give me all these orgasms. And then you, and you also want me to put you to work around the house. You know, with hilarious. Yeah, I have a large audience of guys that would be obsessed with you. Maybe you should certainly only fan page just for this part of yourself. It's just this little part of my life. Yeah. You can, let me just tell you, there are so many guys I have to tell you because I do believe that most girls roll the opposite way. They want to be submissive and stuff. So it's hard to find a girl that really loves that dumb role. And you really are into it. I mean, you wouldn't be doing it for any other reason than you kind of get off on it. And I gotta tell you, there's a lot of guys looking for that. They, there's a lot of guys that are into that. And it's, I think it's hard to find those girls. Some of them, they work in dungeons and they could get the real doms. But I mean, there is a niche market for somebody like you. I know. I know. I know. I know. I mean, it doesn't have to be a fantasy, Layla. Doesn't have to remain a fantasy. I mean, all these things sound like a reality. It's going to be a reality. So, so these are things that I hope to make reality. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean, definitely with just having a partner watch me with another guy just taking me down. And then the BBC thing, I'm not kidding you. As soon as I think, as soon as we're done recording this call, I'm going to text that guy. Yeah, do it. You don't have to try. You don't have to try, Layla. Do what I told you to. Be honest. Tell him exactly what you said to me. Hey, listen, I know I've been blowing you off and you probably hate my fucking guts, but I can't get your mind at you out of my mind. This is what I've been fantasizing about doing you and I can't stop until the fucking have it. Like, he's going to be literally in his car before your message ends. Okay, just tell him the fucking truth. Okay. I know. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I will. I have no problem saying. Yeah. That's the way to get him over ASAP. And then when we do, when we do our next girl talk episode, we can do that recap. Yes, you're going to feel like these are all like this wasn't really a fantasy episode. It's more like what Layla is going to do, but they got a lot of fantasy talk. I think it's great, actually, and super interesting because I think fantasies or everyone has them. I know. I think so. Yeah, I think, and I think women, I think sometimes women need, I need a little help tapping into them, I think, or they don't. They're not honest about them. Yeah, yeah. And so, like I said, watching, I think that's why watching the porn or going to a sex club is an innocent or way enough to sort of steer your partner into the zone of what's on your mind. Like what you find hot. Yeah. And this is a very organic way to do it. And you'll have every reason to just. And for the more vanilla couples, there are apps that give you questions to ask each other or book out there with the question. There's like card games too. Yeah. Stuff like that. Yeah, I think for the really vanilla people, that's a really fun thing. Get a bottle of wine. Start drinking and play that kind of game with someone. And that also could really open up the conversation. It's all about talking and communicating and being honest without feeling ashamed of what you're into and stuff with your partner. I think that that's super important. Yes. Totally agree. So listen, Layla. Thank you so much for calling. And you always give such good stories. And I always feel like I hear a new story about you that you never told me before. That I'm like, what's like with your father's friend. That you're with your father's friend. And I never heard that before. I'm like, what the fuck? I can't believe it. I mean, you never just... I know. I love my girl. I can't put that one close to the best for a long time. Yeah, that's a good one. You could do a whole episode. I feel like I could have done a whole episode on that. But thanks so much for calling in and going over some fantasy talk for me. We're going to do the one on libido and Perry Manipaz and Manipaz. Next time, right? You're going to come back on and do that with me for my show. That'll be great. Yes. I will put a link to your podcast with Layla from the curious girl diaries. You want to hear about her. I mean, this is not a girl that just has fantasy. She lives them out. So you want to hear all about a lot of more fantasies that she lived out in reality. Go check out her podcast, curious girl diaries. I will put a link to all your stuff in my description. But thanks so much for calling in, Layla. Thank you so much for having me. Bye. Everyone, thanks so much for tuning in to this week's episode. If you want to follow the show, follow me at strict anonymous on Instagram or Twitter that's at strict anonymous. If you are on YouTube, make sure to subscribe. 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